arms

[latent moss]

5 or longer

[boreal quartz]

oh you dont have lego rip ur st ig

[gleaming cosmos]

Ok I resim for 3 mins and it's 18k difference instead.

[boreal quartz]

also rezan in key is ver unfortunate

[gleaming cosmos]

I dont really have other options currently.

Could run sandglass which is a bit better in AoE I guess

Yeah if I had leggo I'd rip single BS no questions, but giving up giga ST to run it right now with small pulls in DHT

[latent moss]

jugg is more st ye

if u are strictly looking at st

[hazy flower]

there are like 5 fights in the whole dungeon pool that I can think of

and that's like

on higher tyra keys

so not that common

yazma/iridik/tyr/maybe xavius? and maybe blight of galakrond

oh right, yalnu and kur'talos, so 5 confirmed and maybe like 2 extra xd

[latent moss]

isnt iridikron like

7 minutes

but no exe phase

so jugg is

[hazy flower]

5min+

so yeah

also yalnu is 6-7 mins on tyra

[latent moss]

cringe ass fight

[hazy flower]

and a friend sent me a video of her 30 tyra ad where yazma lasted 7:30

[prisma heart]

65% blue silken lining uptime realistic on farm ?

[smoky kayak]

depends on the boss, BSL is pretty garbage for the later ones

it can be decent (if very sporadically inconsistent) in M+, but I wouldn't recommend it for raid unless you're going for Volcoross parses or something

[hazy flower]

@ornate eagle @latent moss

ad 28

only got 2 pi'S

and 2 reflects on last boss

[ornate eagle]

:sus:

[hazy flower]

no lie

I managed to stack IP

[ornate eagle]

thats still too much dmg

[hazy flower]

to 3 stacks

[ornate eagle]

for AD

[hazy flower]

popped dbts

and def stance

[ornate eagle]

the other 2 mustve been afk on trash

[hazy flower]

I only took 100k dps

nah

ret died on first pull

[latent moss]

he died on every single pack it seems

[hazy flower]

died on 2 packs ye but overall

a v decent group

imo

nobody died from spiders

achievment

come carry me in ad 27 @ornate eagle @latent moss

I rerolled and got this key

[latent moss]

[ornate eagle]

am doing ad28 rn

for shits n giggles

[hazy flower]

do ad27 rn

for shits n giggles

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[latent moss]

do 20 ad

5 fury

[hazy flower]

can do that

is mr critical cake in

@daring heron

[latent moss]

prob not even hard

[hazy flower]

if you have ad 20 that is

we need the key xd

[latent moss]

xd

i can lower but i have no clue what key i got

waycrest

[hazy flower]

thats a good key lol

[latent moss]

y

[hazy flower]

a very fucking good for wars

[opaque lake]

Tell that to all the declines for it I get regardless of whether I'm arms or prot for the key.

[latent moss]

is bitter immunity useful

anywhere

in wcm

[hazy flower]

no

[hazy flower]

who doesnt lol

[latent moss]

giga misleading tooltip istg

[hazy flower]

I somehow got into 28

probably 200 rio above any other applicant

nobody will invite me to 27 usually so

I only get invited to ad/brh as pwar

[opaque lake]

People get surprised when Bladestorm immunes the thorns, spell reflects are off the charts, or when I don't need to clear on tree boss as prot but god forbid I get the invite to even do it.

[hazy flower]

wait maybe

in ad for the priestess

[untold trench]

Prot Warr in WCM, so freakin' good

[hazy flower]

idk what does the dot classify as

[latent moss]

last time i tried it

it didnt even dispell shit it should

so

idk

[hazy flower]

I mean defo not useful in high keys but in 5war keys that is

[latent moss]

still a healthstone every now and then aint bad

kinda wish it wasnt 3min but w/e

[latent moss]

volcanic sanguine as well

[hazy flower]

nah trash

[latent moss]

no crigne affixes

[hazy flower]

talent point for that

yeah no affixes that u cant do shit about

sanguine just kite out and volcanic doesnt exist if you take a step to the left

[latent moss]

y

[hazy flower]

59% bsl btw

[latent moss]

might craft frostfire legs

and bsl for heroic

[calm trout]

Is there a preffered WA for spell reflect in keys that is used atm in Wago ?

[jolly slate]

do we ever rend in st to save 10 rage?

[sharp wyvern]

only in very specific situations where rend is about to fall of and you are not in CS window or if you dont have enough rage for TC

i belive rend upfront dmg is still higher than tc ?

[astral yarrow]

Yes, but it won’t reset OP. So it’s also opportunity cost

[sharp wyvern]

it would also mean you didnt get a SD proc for an entire CS window

its probably not worth thinking about and just use TC

[jolly slate]

ok ty guys

[smoky kayak]

https://wago.io/tDT26wrXg

[smoky kayak]

save yourself the keybind and just use TC tbh

[calm trout]

Thanks heaps , tried to get it in game but wouldnt download fully but this worked ! thanks again

[nova marsh]

Another week, another ember

[shadow ibex]

ouch

[nova marsh]

smh

I will actually get it in fated now, fuck my life

[nova marsh]

Is it an 11 everbloom? Yes. Is evreyone else undergeared? Also yes....

But I think I did okay

With jugg too

[storm helm]

trying out arms, trying to get a hang of m+ cd usage. on pull with everything up, im tc for rend, warbreaker/avatar, then I'm not sure whats next. Do i pop bs right away and then ss into normal rotation?

[edgy atlas]

@smoky kayak Just got back from the week holiday, reckon I'll be washed up this week?

grey parse inc

[rare kite]

you can green parse, i believe in you

[edgy atlas]

Cheers bro, no one's ever believed in me like that before!

[rare kite]

yw, it's important to be supportive!

[stable fiber]

why are you a shaman

also that resto druid cranked

[nova marsh]

because it's genuinely funny

Also yes they are

[nova marsh]

Send roar before BS

Then BS next GCD

Then SS normal rotate

I mean pop Roar before avatar if ur using Blademaster's btw, before whatever causes ur first BS

[obtuse eagle]

When the tank is grouping up mobs in a dungeon, what do you usually press? Obviously my hekili is telling me to avatar and stuff right away but the tank isint done pulling, so i’m not sure what I should be doing.

[nova marsh]

Apply rend and DW to evreything without using CDs is what I usually do

[obtuse eagle]

what’s DW?

[nova marsh]

Deep wounds

Apply it with MS is what I usually do well waiting for a pull to be parked

[obtuse eagle]

So just thunder clap and MS?

[nova marsh]

And OP for a little extra dam

Also to keep your OP charges below 2

Arms NEVER wants to sit on 2 OP charges

[obtuse eagle]

Okay

[outer holly]

In large aoe arms tends to hard prio OP

[nova marsh]

Yeah, OP does a fuckton of damage in keys

Combined with dreadnaught

It's like.....10% of ur aoe

Even more if you count SS

[outer holly]

Yeah it winds up being like 3rd or 4th on my overall, DN buffs were insane

[nova marsh]

Even before the buffs DN was nuts

I remeber it kinda hard carried Arms's pure aoe in S2

[smoky kayak]

Yeah, after this long you might as well just quit tbh

time to reroll Ret

oh wait, you already did that 😬

[nova marsh]

Eyo brooo

I might have a ret alt but that dosen't mean we all reroll

Until said alt gets the fucking axe before my main

[idle ginkgo]

if your w/l ratio in solo shuffle is low do you gain less rating per win?

[nova marsh]

Ask #pvp

[edgy atlas]

Back to aug!

[smoky kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[idle ginkgo]

i did nobody answered

[untold trench]

Say something wrong, so question should be:
I get more rating per win I lose, solo shuffle is weird. No wonder my paladin gains so much rating!

[dire hinge]

haha good ole Cunningham's Law

"the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."

[gaunt owl]

@smoky kayak Who are the priates of Azeroth

[boreal quartz]

They made an article abt it a while ago

Bloodsail, irontide, something i dont remember

[gaunt owl]

Typo

[smoky kayak]

look at this noob, doesn't even know what a priate is

[boreal quartz]

Question remains was it priMate or pirate

I prefer to think it's the former

[smoky kayak]

uh, no it's a priate, smh
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Priate

uncultured people over here I tell ya

[olive nest]

Bene gesserit voice leave the typo in

[boreal quartz]

I think we established it wasnt a typo

[gaunt owl]

[west furnace]

for arms in aoe collateral build, do we press mortal strike only with sweeping and 2 stacks of overpower up?

[hardy olive]

When is s4 coming out guys

[hazy flower]

yes, and that's up to 6/8 targets (there were some changes to APL iirc)

[west furnace]

and as filler spender when you don't have MS, if running that build and hitting single target do you use whirlwind? since it also slams your target?

[hazy flower]

It doesnt slam the target in st

If you read that talent again you'll see it says "if ww hits 2 or more targets"

[west furnace]

ahh my bad, i'm dumb

ye, so just slam then i guess

[hazy flower]

And considering that if you're playing that fob you will WANT to play crushing force, your priority is ms>op>slam in st

[west furnace]

and if you are running test of might, does the priority change at all in that window or not?

[hazy flower]

Your highest priority with fob build is ww which already is a rage spender

in st you ignore test of might

you follow the classic ms>op>slam (with storm of swords instead of fob you will want to press ww>slam but we're talking about fob build for m+)

[west furnace]

ty for the info, i was asking test of might for pure single target build, not m+

since in m+ we are running in for the kill

[hazy flower]

yeah for st you ignore it

sd>ms>op>ww>slam

[zealous basin]

So since i got my leggo

How do i use it properly

[exotic kestrel]

press it on cd outside of ur cooldowns

[astral yarrow]

If timing is tight, charge-rend-leggo. If it isn’t, you just send outside CS after avatar

Outside that, check pins I guess

[zealous basin]

ok thanks

[tender ermine]

If any arms raiders can help out, I put a log in the log review channel, any help would be appreciated 🙂

[scenic sequoia]

guys

is bladestorm build better or FoB

[naive breach]

slayer when

[frigid lava]

holy crap... blizzard forum is toxic

[obtuse copper]

[sharp wyvern]

first time ?

[fresh spire]

Always has been

Why do you think real id came into existence

[finite wasp]

U guys think arms will be even better next season or nah.

[warped ether]

At this point it’s just funny tough

I go trough wowhead comments from time to time

It’s a f blast

Especially on the wow classic stuff

People write f essays on how they hate the game and all that

[sharp wyvern]

only difference ion playstyle is gonna be : less SD procs
otherwise we can only pray to the tuning gods

[tulip sand]

hello guys 🙂

got a question 🙂

is there a arms crit cap ?

like 31 % or so ?

[astral yarrow]

nope

basically stack it until diminishing returns

even past that somewhat

[halcyon breach]

In other words

[tulip sand]

not that familiar with sims

got 49% crit 45% haste 19% mastery 7% versa

[astral yarrow]

if you wanna do endgame activities you should get familiar

[halcyon breach]

It's the most accurate way to tell what gear and stats you should go for

There are guides you can find on how to use sims if you don't know how to

[astral yarrow]

if not, then you can do whatever you like

[fringe moon]

Crit looks too high, mastery and vers could be higher. Just sim yourself to be sure

[tulip sand]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3FDND7sDhoz86rCnCicYUs

thats my sim

it says everything looks fine

if i look raider io

most arms got like 31-33 crit

and 5-6% more mastery

[halcyon breach]

It says it looks fine because you forgot to tick "Replace existing gems/enchants" above the enchants section

[tulip sand]

aaaah ok

found it

[halcyon breach]

Also you're bloating the combinations too much

Remove sustained strength, primary stat + versa, would remove mastery enchant as well (and mastery heavy gems), mastery main stat gem

[astral yarrow]

Getting Erga vibes from that pfp

[halcyon breach]

At least if you're working without a subscription

[halcyon breach]

It's because it's the same pfp just different character/source

[astral yarrow]

oh

gif

[halcyon breach]

jif

[astral yarrow]

jeef

[finite wasp]

Tru dat, I hope they dont tune the tier set because i gotta feeling it’ll be godlike aoe in next season

[gaunt owl]

Gif

Fight me

[boreal quartz]

ERGA PFP

AAAAA

HE'S WEARING HIS SKIN

[fresh spire]

[astral yarrow]

wwher egra

[boreal quartz]

Im peepojamming out of my fuckin mind i love leaving work

[boreal quartz]

@paper dagger

Here :))

[astral yarrow]

👋 Egra

[astral yarrow]

did you change dns

[boreal quartz]

I didnt need to sim stuff yet so I didnt

Simming kinda deadge for a week anyways as im out of town

[paper dagger]

HAIIII :3

[boreal quartz]

@paper dagger do you still play SOD with sodie or game dead?

[paper dagger]

turbo dead game

sod p2 fucking sucks ass

[boreal quartz]

So just like retail

[paper dagger]

ya

[boreal quartz]

Raid bad or what?

I havent touched it at all but kinda was going to if friend frogs play

[paper dagger]

idk i never got that far xdd

[halcyon breach]

Was the SM cage that bad

xd

[boreal quartz]

Doesnt seem like they do anymore tho

[paper dagger]

i mean

yea kinda

[boreal quartz]

SM being

[paper dagger]

tried leveling open world 10 bajillion ppl on my quests stealing shit

log off

[halcyon breach]

I considered leveling again

since 100% buff

and now the world should be dead (surely)

[paper dagger]

kinda same

i'm getting too old for wow i think 👴

[halcyon breach]

oldge

[boreal quartz]

But wow is an old people game

[paper dagger]

stuck bewteen a rock and a hard place

[boreal quartz]

Man the hr woman at work talked to me abt her friend being turbo into wow and how wow gamers are usually turbo ugly but her friend wasnt

They dont know i play wow

[paper dagger]

phil too hot to play wow...

[boreal quartz]

surely

[paper dagger]

it was revealed to me in a dream

[boreal quartz]

As per my last email

Ironically havent had to say that yet

[paper dagger]

chat

laugh at this office worker

[boreal quartz]

You say office but company is paying my 1 week work trip

[paper dagger]

sorry i'm just a hater

[boreal quartz]

Visiting our trucking company

Love trucks and pollution

[paper dagger]

yeah they better pay your work trip what

:yay:

[boreal quartz]

Ive heard some shit ye

[paper dagger]

gg

[boreal quartz]

Other people got some crazy workplaces

[sacred zodiac]

noober

[paper dagger]

smite me down

[boreal quartz]

Yung spongo famous obliterator

[boreal quartz]

Apropos noober https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QbNKAwWX7D8dZmk6#fight=33&type=damage-done

Opinion on the comp banzoia

[halcyon breach]

I have planned to obliterate Spongie because he forced me to install and play Valorant with him

(He made fun of me for playing bad and cussed me out and called me a noob)

[paper dagger]

why do u have 3 windfury totems

[halcyon breach]

consider balls

what is this comp

[boreal quartz]

Collecting totems

[halcyon breach]

This is genuinely tragic to look at

[boreal quartz]

I think it's incredibly funny ngl

But it's not the usual group unfortunately

Normally it's just 2 wfts

[sacred zodiac]

i complimented your picks you noob!!!

[sacred zodiac]

if your second fury was a sub rogue itd be good

[halcyon breach]

You didn't scream at the top of your lungs at 2:43 am when I did the 1v4 clutch!!

[boreal quartz]

Cant scream at what doesnt happen

[halcyon breach]

does valorant have replay function

if so I HAVE to show receipts at how good I am at games

[sacred zodiac]

No

[halcyon breach]

Valorant is trash

[sacred zodiac]

this is True

[boreal quartz]

Doesnt nvidia clipping work

Idk what AMD does

[halcyon breach]

It does but I don't have shadowplay active

And the keybind to bring up the overlay is some unholy combination that I don't remember nor bother to remember

[boreal quartz]

Control shit alt F4

[halcyon breach]

I'm so good at games

AAAAAAAAAA

I CANT SEND THE SS

I LOOK LIKE A FOOL

[frigid lava]

I started playing prot to feel like im playing a different game

[obtuse copper]

:3

[paper dagger]

( ≧∀≦)ノ

[paper dagger]

prot owns

[obtuse copper]

erga owns

[quasi torrent]

:3

[strange perch]

🥺

[strange perch]

[astral yarrow]

:3

[finite mantle]

:3

[gaunt owl]

:3

[strange perch]

:3

[olive nest]

E:

[plucky grotto]

Such a fun spec to play... too sad is not considered for high end game

But I think its rotation is very dinamic and fun, all the damage mitigation is so cool... and the damage pretty decent, specially in Throne where spell reflection owns

[smoky kayak]

Slayer Warrior (Arms/Fury) has been revealed

• As expected, it revolves around Execute and triggering Slayer's Strikes, increasing the damage of Executes and increasing Sudden Death proc rate
• Procs reset BT/OP (eh)
• Duplicated OP/BT cd reduction seems like typo (or double value!); 10% cdr alone is pretty benign
• Slayer's Focus was edited to +10% OP/BT damage, which is nice, but also means the single 10% CDR node is pretty low value absent further baseline changes.
• Overpower/BT auto-cast bladestorm (insta signet!)
• FURY GETTING BLADESTORM BACK!?
• Pummel/Storm Bolt during Bladestorm
• Charge removes slows and grants movespeed 🎉
• Leap reduces charge cd/charge reduces leap CD
• Execute reduces the CD of Bladestorm... 😮
• No changing target talent seems like a more annoying version of Fury Frenzy...

Some very early feedback on problem areas and observations that's too lengthy to pin can be found in the feedback thread here: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-slayer-warrior/1808136/4

[minor gust]

aye yooo

[drowsy cobalt]

Fury gets BS?

[minor gust]

execute and bladestorm

now this is nice

also yeah no ravager included so is this fury BS?

[smoky kayak]

There is a note stating that Fury will have access to Bladestorm - doesn't necessarily mean Ravager is gone, but there doesn't seem to be any interaction with this tree

[copper swan]

what

[minor gust]

thats cool would love see see arms getting access to ravager then if they do end up letting fury get BS

[copper swan]

[sharp wyvern]

more overpower buffs pog

[copper swan]

controls during bs pog

[sharp wyvern]

slayer saved us like the prophecy foretold

[minor gust]

thats prob the greatest node in there

being able to cc in BS

[sharp wyvern]

overpower spec

kinda funny

[prisma heart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldN9fNhZcsQ

[copper swan]

bs place in tree would likely change if fury gets it

[minor gust]

Also really really hoping the brief BS is passive dmg and not actually you randomly channel BS

tbh they could just be putting BS and ravager in class tree

[dire hinge]

hps parses here we go

[sharp wyvern]

question is will ravanger even exist then

[fringe moon]

slayer talents seem ridiculous....

[rapid bronze]

ridiculous in what sense

[shy tide]

wish it was rampage/op instead of BT/OP

rampage / ms i mean

[sharp wyvern]

-20% overpower cooldown

[copper swan]

more rage ?

[tender pecan]

bs go

[sharp wyvern]

BS as a dmg amp seems interesting

[fringe moon]

how many times does BS currently hit? 7 hits?

[sharp wyvern]

ill go test rn

[hexed pecan]

Gotta imagine with how this slayer tree looks like it might play that we will see talent tree changes or changes to resource income in TWW alpha

[sharp wyvern]

7

so its half an avatar with those talents

[fringe moon]

basically between bladestorms, you get 3 SD procs, that'll be +10% damage they take for 10 sec after each bladestorm

[copper swan]

7+3 = 10, round number feels nice to me

[hexed pecan]

Can’t imagine they’ve heard the rage economy issues and want us to overpower more than we already are

[boreal quartz]

@gaunt owl op>ms?

[gaunt owl]

OP > MS

[boreal quartz]

Yippie

[sharp wyvern]

is there a chance we use BS before other CDs to ge the most out of the dmg amp

[fringe moon]

going to be a cycle of execute --> bladestorm etc...

because of the bladestorm CD reduction per execute

[boreal quartz]

Hurricane alr does this

[minor gust]

I just noticed but is this a mistake theres 2 of the same exact nodes in here

[sharp wyvern]

also its not just 10% it can be more

[boreal quartz]

Man that talent will abuse us entire expac

[minor gust]

that cant be real

double op/bt cd reduction

[timber lynx]

Yeah i saw that too

[sharp wyvern]

look at the last node depending on how many marks of execution we get the more % our bladestorm will give us

[fringe moon]

max is 3 marks that you can have

[hexed pecan]

They’re named different, it’s possible they just want 20% cd reduction

[ionic reef]

But does arms get ravager back ?

That would be TOS signs of awesome

[sharp wyvern]

so 13% then

at best

[ionic reef]

Otherwise im not that hyped

[minor gust]

thats true but idk just so weird to have two nodes be exactly the same

[fringe moon]

so..basically slayer for M+, lol

[smoky kayak]

we dunno, but if I had to guess I would assume that Ravager might be dropped entirely? I have to imagine that if Ravager were retained as an upgrade node to BS or whatever, it would still have some mention here

but it's not, which (to me) implies its probably gone entirely

[copper swan]

nice to see bladestorm becoming a class thing, now make rend baseline

[sharp wyvern]

hopefully that procced bladestorm wont lock us into a gcd or a channel

[ionic reef]

So sad

[smoky kayak]

unless they plan on giving us both independent of one another, though I find that unlikely

[ionic reef]

It would be GREAT

Auto bladestorm… i dont have good memories from that

[minor gust]

do you know anything about that double OP/BT Cd reduction node? seems really weird to have two of the exact same nodes in the tree

[copper swan]

ah y more like this, bcs i don't see prot having bs now that i think

[sharp wyvern]

fury got fucked with this they have to play anihilator

[hexed pecan]

Delete annihilator replace that capstone with bladestorm

[wind quiver]

this seems so obstructive in regards to rotational flow

[smoky kayak]

probably typo, the text version says the same

[summer cargo]

I like annih big dps

[sharp wyvern]

cause you have the tier set now

[hexed pecan]

It says once, maybe like a .5 sec animation

[tender pecan]

i think you just do bs dmg without spinning

[wind quiver]

hopefully

[prisma heart]

slayer = herod

[sharp wyvern]

it hopefully works like ravager

and doest lock us in a channel

[hexed pecan]

Or have the animation work within the gcd after u hit bloodthirst

Since it is only hitting once

[dire hinge]

or like tclap does atm with SD procs

just happens

[sharp wyvern]

if the animation still goes off that would look sick

[naive sage]

Maybe Tactician will be gone?

[sharp wyvern]

maybe nerfed but not gone

[ivory quartz]

my speculation is the double CDR is a mistake, "constant pressure" is definitely a name tailored to lower cooldown but "slayer's focus"? seems off

[sharp wyvern]

it will go from 12s CD to ~10s CD

its not that big of a difference

[naive sage]

Well at least Bladestorm is saved lol

[warped ether]

not a hater of the hero talents but what's gonna happen to TOM

[sharp wyvern]

i dont realy like BS in ST but w/e

[warped ether]

yeah feels wierd

[untold pewter]

Pretty sure we'll just play Colossus in ST

[sharp wyvern]

im fine with both collosus and slayer so arms main for TWW

[untold pewter]

This feels like a m+ iteration

[ivory quartz]

bladestorm being given to fury via spec tree feels bad, put it in class tree and give each spec a new toy in spec

[sharp wyvern]

prot bladestorm

[warped ether]

with the exec talents

[sharp wyvern]

[warped ether]

idk man

[untold pewter]

Well that's the thing tho

[sharp wyvern]

this is less disruptive than collosus in ST

[untold pewter]

The issue with Arms rn is if we go heavy heavy aoe we lose ST
I guess this makes up for it by giving us at least execute ST

[sharp wyvern]

what

[hexed pecan]

Well I think we’ll also see some talent tree changes/rage economy being addressed in TWW alpha alongside this hero tree

[sharp wyvern]

have you seen ret palas

[untold pewter]

huh

[ivory quartz]

definitely the former, im not holding my breath for rage economy fixes though lol

[untold pewter]

I'm talking about Arms mate

[sharp wyvern]

you described every class

[untold pewter]

Nope

[sharp wyvern]

if we go aoe we lose ST

[untold pewter]

I wish it was every spec lmao

[hexed pecan]

Bring back SL rage economy Prayge

[minor gust]

Arms still needs a way to spend rage outside of execute neither hero talent tree addresses this so we can only wait in see for talent tree changes

[sharp wyvern]

all these warriors who dont like having rage man

[untold pewter]

For instance, Fury isn't quite like that
Fury loses way less ST than Arms when going AoE (think m+ talents)

[bronze hound]

I cant stand either Tree. Demolish is just unhinged with a fresh coat of paint and the Slayer Tree is just what fatality should of been. Increased usability in aoe scenarios.

And reduced overpower cd in the Slayer Tree? For what?

[shadow ibex]

SLAYER IS BLADESTORM

[untold pewter]

So you can proc mini bladestorms

[shadow ibex]

WHO WOULDA THOUGHT

[dry frost]

Instead of OP and BT it should be MS and Rampage

[minor gust]

the OP cd reduction nodes feel like the only bad nodes in the tree

[untold pewter]

Prob trying to push some "prioritize OP for aoe" idea so you can proc those mini bladestorms

[fading sage]

The real question is if these procd blade storms will act as a channel and interfere with the rotation in my question

[shadow ibex]

we have no idea how high overwhelm stacks?

[hexed pecan]

It’s just too clunky, I think they can just reduce rage gen, counterbalance AM/ToM to be net zero (same ToM buff or CDR for spending less rage) so we don’t have to hit cringe spenders like WW or TC

[minor gust]

raw cd reduction just feels completely counter productive to tactician

[bronze hound]

Im probally just butthurt that Condemn is missing.

[sharp wyvern]

10 and 13 with capstone

[naive sage]

Yeah if they it once I think they will be almost unnoticeable

[ivory quartz]

selling slayer as the execute spec feels so weird when you see it was duct-taped onto bladestorm and OP in weird ways lol

[untold pewter]

This is what I want to know too

[dry frost]

Yeah it’s def strange

[untold pewter]

Cuz that will feel like shit

[shadow ibex]

20% CDR on OP seems

silly

with tact

[minor gust]

very silly

[untold pewter]

Especially during execute phase

[minor gust]

the op nodes need to go the rest can stay

[gaunt owl]

its meaningless

[sharp wyvern]

the Op nodes are just filler

[shadow ibex]

yea

[gaunt owl]

since we proc too much

[sharp wyvern]

who cares

[gaunt owl]

so Tactician is about to change

[shadow ibex]

i dont like meaningless esp losing value in exe

[minor gust]

change the OP node to MS

[naive sage]

It is one hit so I guess it would be something like an auto whirlwind

[minor gust]

and call it a day

[shadow ibex]

tunnel vision is cringe

[untold pewter]

Yeah but with increased SD procs

You can prob just always run Thrill of the Kill

[sharp wyvern]

if OP is gonna have a higher priority than MS that would be just as meaningless

[shadow ibex]

the charge node is nice so bosses dont zoom away after u charge

[ivory quartz]

the op talents are either a mistake or the harbinger that tacticians dead, and honestly i wouldnt be surprised if tactician is dead

[wind quiver]

it's a choice so it's fine for pure ST

[shadow ibex]

should be baseline frankly

[naive sage]

In a scenario like Terros it’s ok I think

[versed nest]

Okay why does this tree have such a hard on for blade storm

[untold pewter]

Idk bro

[sharp wyvern]

cause its slayer

[untold pewter]

I wanted more execute not bladestorm

[minor gust]

I mean thats just the problem OP should never have higher prio than MS

[untold pewter]

lmao

[naive sage]

Because right now bladestorm sucks

[sharp wyvern]

and bladestorm is iconic

[hexed pecan]

Maybe their intention is prio dam?

[wind quiver]

been missing bladestorm since SL ngl

[sharp wyvern]

remember when bladestorm was the signiture ability for arms and now we dont even use it

[wind quiver]

if anything just to have situationally

[sharp wyvern]

i think they wanted to fix that

[untold pewter]

Nah if you have more targets why would you ever use that
That's for pure ST situations

[naive sage]

Exactly

[minor gust]

honestly rn add the S3 arms tier in instead of one of these OP cd nodes

[naive sage]

When you press N, bladestorm is shown as sample ability and right now it serves only to give you hurricane buff lol

[sharp wyvern]

and remember we dont just get the 10% dmg amp from hero talents but also the strenght bonus from hurricane if it remains

ToM will never die

[teal fossil]

tom will die if our entire rotation is free

[hexed pecan]

Well I just mean like in keys for example, you’re rewarded for focusing a lieutenant. I agree in practice it’s prob just ST just spitballing

[sharp wyvern]

is bladestorm hasted ?

[shadow ibex]

yes

[naive sage]

Ofc

[sharp wyvern]

like im supposed to know

[minor gust]

you never BS inside lust b4?

[untold pewter]

As long as the mini-bladestorm is just an off-GCD auto-spin thing I think this will play nicely for aoe/keys
But if that locks you for a GCD it'll feel terrible

[naive sage]

^

[sharp wyvern]

when was the last time we did that

i quit after BoD

[shadow ibex]

i do not like x2 nodes that reduce CDs by 10%

[sharp wyvern]

came back in fated SL

[shadow ibex]

those scream placeholder to me

[minor gust]

M+

[versed nest]

A reset on overpower, yippee

[naive sage]

I think one of the two is a typo

[untold pewter]

Imo it's just "more mini-bladestorm procs go"

[sharp wyvern]

collosus has 8 placeholder talents so ?

[shadow ibex]

that BS proc gonna be crazy for logs

[frozen ermine]

whats the verdict on slayer

[shadow ibex]

gg i got 5 casts in this aoe pull

[minor gust]

I hope it does the BS animation when it procs but not the channel part

[sharp wyvern]

love my rng damage amps

[minor gust]

will be such a cool visual

[untold pewter]

Yeah this

Just autospin but keep doing your normal rotation

[sharp wyvern]

actually it should do the old spear animation to annoy people

[minor gust]

random flashbangs

[shadow ibex]

considering it says u can still pummel and bolt

[minor gust]

would be funny

[shadow ibex]

its probably a real BS

[sharp wyvern]

that might be for our real BS tho

[wind quiver]

will at least be able to do something when it comes to burst AoE without sacrificing a ton of ST to pick up BS

[shadow ibex]

i mean i wouldnt mind a free BS if it only strikes once

thats like half a GCD

[wind quiver]

not being able to has been awful in DF

[shadow ibex]

free random immunity

[minor gust]

idk I just imagine your hitting a boss he does a mechanic to force you out of melee so you wait to leap last second but you hit the boss proc your random BS and now u cant leap cuz BS channel

and u die

[sharp wyvern]

even if its a channel its gonna gonna happen within the gcd and wont be disruptive

[shadow ibex]

1 strike is mega short is all

[sharp wyvern]

and its gonna proc right when you hit a gcd too

[minor gust]

well see just like demolish really wont know till we play with it

[sharp wyvern]

demolish is just leggo

but every 30 seconds

[teal fossil]

i have a feeling its just an auto spin that interacts with bladestorm talents

else they wouldnt call it bladestorm

[sharp wyvern]

so you thinkw e get a hurricane stack from the proc ?

[naive sage]

This

[teal fossil]

you are thinking too small with hurricane

[wind quiver]

[naive sage]

You would get channels all the time, no sense

[teal fossil]

try unhinged

free MS every proc

[naive sage]

True

[sharp wyvern]

2 actually

[teal fossil]

you probably wouldnt get 2

[naive sage]

Unhinged saved

[teal fossil]

the bladestorm sounds like its too short for 2

the 2nd unhinged hit takes a while to come out

[sharp wyvern]

the wording sounds like the duration doesnt matter

oh does it have a icd

[teal fossil]

probably

[sharp wyvern]

sadge

but that way we wont even need to press MS ever to keep DW up

only reason to hit MS is for fatality

[naive sage]

My guess is that as I said it will be like an auto whirlwind interacting with bs talents

[teal fossil]

well

bladestorm procs DW

so you dont even need unhinged

[teal fossil]

probably cant even fit fatality

[weak dew]

It says it attacks once

The proc

[shadow ibex]

yes the proc is 1 strike

[vital zealot]

i was coping for slayer talents hard buff execute

but this looks not so great

[teal fossil]

because you need to path bladestorm, and then also path execute talents

[sharp wyvern]

your right that means its automatically best spec

[gaunt owl]

die Fatality die

[teal fossil]

you prob run fatality in colossu though

[minor gust]

Fatality I

[wind quiver]

this

[sharp wyvern]

now we only need IFTK and we are free

[naive sage]

In my opinion there is a lot of room for changes to spec talent tree

[gaunt owl]

see every smart warrior hate Fatality

[wind quiver]

especially nice having no agency over getting a maximized fatality

[sharp wyvern]

actually fatality isnt the bad thing its ToM

or the fact that ToM interacts with it

[wind quiver]

yeah ToM is worse

[gaunt owl]

ToM is clearly one of the biggest flaw in Arms

[wicked aurora]

warrior is saved

slayer is good

more spin more execute more spin

honestly interrupt and stun in BS is pog af

[potent bough]

it's not saved until prot gets bladestorm fun with shieldstorm

[sharp wyvern]

i actually dont want hurricane cause we wont be able to cancel BS

[gaunt owl]

they probably dropping the hurricane

[obtuse copper]

No need to cancel BS

[shadow ibex]

i dont think youd want to cancel a slayer BS

[wicked aurora]

looking at it I don't think you'll want to cancel anyways

[shadow ibex]

since it increases dmg enemies take

[wicked aurora]

slayer BS has more hits

as well

[obtuse copper]

[gaunt owl]

its just great news for Bladestorm

[sharp wyvern]

so both arms specs have channels

interesting

[timber lynx]

[gaunt owl]

yeah but Bladestorm doesnt have a downside to be rooted

[minor gust]

idk if yall have seen the DK Rider tree but that shit is cool af ngl

[obtuse copper]

Unfathomably large L

[minor gust]

outdoor mounted combat and DK divine steed

[shadow ibex]

i think its pretty funny the descriptions for both are just "warrior who is dangerous and hits hard"

[wicked aurora]

both dk trees are pog

[obtuse copper]

I mean the name ensured it would be a banger

[sharp wyvern]

now watch it be the worse tuned one

[obtuse copper]

[shadow ibex]

gl to them tuning all this

[obtuse copper]

Wait so DK just gets Divine Steed but like 2x duration?

[shadow ibex]

• tier sets if they exist

[sharp wyvern]

ST tuning is gonna be fine like always

[obtuse copper]

• shorter cd + immune to knockbacks

[sharp wyvern]

but they wil probably have 3 million adds during boss fights again

[wind quiver]

has to be outside so somewhat limited use ig

[wanton patrol]

why they pigeon holding us to bladestorm :/

[shadow ibex]

i put large amounts of money on the 100% movement speed being axed

well lowerd a lot

[sharp wyvern]

thats what hero talents are

[shadow ibex]

because 10 seconds of root/snare immunity is massive

i dont think blizz realizes how fast 100% increased is

[obtuse copper]

No I mean the 2nd option

[sharp wyvern]

its also a wheelchair class

[shadow ibex]

yea thats not hitting anything near retail at 100%

[wicked aurora]

because Bladestorm has been iconic to Arms since WotLK?

[obtuse copper]

Idk I can see them doing it

[wanton patrol]

waitr replaces deaths advance

[boreal quartz]

BDK doesnt get this PepeLaugh

[wanton patrol]

so its just going from 70-100?

[shadow ibex]

i genuinely dont think blizzard is aware of how fast 100% is

[obtuse copper]

[boreal quartz]

You lose the cant go below 70% but gain turbo Sprint

Basically

[wanton patrol]

wdym, its divine steed

[obtuse copper]

They are for sure

[warped spade]

Idk why they gave us 2 OP talents when we are already flooding in OP

[wind quiver]

oh damn yeah

[obtuse copper]

I don't see why they'd nerf it since it's core to the theme

[wanton patrol]

slayer tree is meh

[boreal quartz]

It should read ms on those IMO but we'll see

[warped spade]

yes, that would be a lot better

[obtuse copper]

And tbf Pala can chain 2 divine steeds in a row for like 10 sec

[wanton patrol]

warr gets the shaft once again

[wicked aurora]

nah slayer tree is pog

[versed nest]

Bladestorm needs big changes to how it actually works or else we're gonna just have 2 clunky hero specs that need you to cast shit for single target

[obtuse copper]

Imo more likely they nerf the duration to 8 sec or smth

[wicked aurora]

you're just mad because you don't like BS

[wicked aurora]

why?

what changes?

[obtuse copper]

LMAO I just saw the Rider capstone

[wanton patrol]

because bladestorm is MT and not even that great

[obtuse copper]

[wicked aurora]

you literally wouldn't care about casting it in ST if it was tuned properly

[clever jay]

I feel like it kinda sucks that slayer doesn't get a good utility talent like 2 second longer shockwave, if they both do the same damage wouldn't you just always go colossus for M+?

[wicked aurora]

wasn't always

[obtuse copper]

That tree is so cracked holy shit

[versed nest]

So tune it properly lmao

[bronze hound]

The capstones could use work.

[sharp wyvern]

bladestorm is not great but those talents make it great

so its still bad

[gaunt owl]

we gonna get a real rework

[wicked aurora]

we used it in ST in SL lol

it just wasn't high prio

[shadow ibex]

does feel like both specs are just buffing a button. one is a root tho and the other is a proc

[gaunt owl]

Bladestorm will apply a debuff on the target

so big dmg

[wicked aurora]

^

[obtuse copper]

I wish there were more BS damage increases tho

[wicked aurora]

ya'll don't even read

[obtuse copper]

There's only the tick increase right?

[shadow ibex]

p much

[sharp wyvern]

i like the sound of both playstyles for arms tbh

[wicked aurora]

you just see BS and go "BS bad"

[shadow ibex]

maybe cool interaction with unhinged i guess

in a world where MS hits hard

[gaunt owl]

they clearly speedrun the tree and dont understand half the interaction with it

[wind quiver]

exactly, and even better just having it in the back pocket for when adds spawn

[gaunt owl]

The AOE we lack because we losing too much ST

[obtuse copper]

Could add more secondary stat scaling to it like crit.

[gaunt owl]

so tactical Bladestorm inc

[sharp wyvern]

its almost like we do this already for the legendary

[gaunt owl]

we gonna reload Bladestorm CD so much actually

[wicked aurora]

yep

[obtuse copper]

Ye we're gonna be channeling a fuck ton

[wicked aurora]

sp much spin

[gaunt owl]

15seconds if you have 3 stack of PEWPEW

[obtuse copper]

Also based name @gaunt owl

[coral crescent]

spin

[sharp wyvern]

arms is now a channel class

[wind quiver]

yeah but I hate the legendary cause I got it literally as late as one could possibly get it

[warped spade]

wonder if short bladestorm triggers unhinged

[obtuse copper]

Imagine thinking Slayer is a cool name when another class is literally getting Rider of the Apocalypse 💀

[wicked aurora]

not like we could spend rage properly anyways

[sharp wyvern]

who cares about the names lol

[wanton patrol]

whats crazy is we weilding such big weapons and have negative attack range

[boreal quartz]

☝️

[obtuse copper]

Me

[sharp wyvern]

then reroll DK

[gaunt owl]

so AM is clearly gone too

[obtuse copper]

No

[gaunt owl]

we cant have AM and Slayer tree coexist

would be so many bladestorm

[coral crescent]

unless...

[obtuse copper]

Weird with Demolish too tho

[sharp wyvern]

AM is the only chose

[wind quiver]

could just prune it to just be CS too tho

[boreal quartz]

assuming 40 rage execute and 1 mark proc per use

you need 12 secs to get from 1 bs to another

[wicked aurora]

lmfao

[boreal quartz]

idk how often youll have 1 mark

tho

[gaunt owl]

thats the silly part

a high chance

[sharp wyvern]

50% uptime on huricane during execute

imagine that plus ToM

[obtuse copper]

Hilarious if Arms becomes giga easy because you're channeling during half your rotation

[sharp wyvern]

wait how do we spend rage

[gaunt owl]

what rage ?

[boreal quartz]

if you were to proc 1 bs per op

you can extend it

infinitely

but then ur casting op in exe

[olive nest]

The talent tree rework is going to gut AM and rage gen

[strange perch]

We big mag right?

[olive nest]

Guarantee

[wicked aurora]

it's already giga ez

[olive nest]

Op / SD procs is the new way to play
And when you can’t you’ll be spinning

[sharp wyvern]

and we will still use it cause look at the other option

[wind quiver]

bladestorm now spends rage to deal more dmg

[obtuse copper]

Sure but would be even easier obv

[sharp wyvern]

"bladestorm drains your entire rage"

[wicked aurora]

I'm chill with the second portion of that statement

honestly

[sharp wyvern]

dont gut rage gen wth

[obtuse copper]

Been saying this fr, would be so cool if it took all your rage and amped your BS dmg based on it

[wicked aurora]

I liked the old rage economy

[gaunt owl]

wasnt it your idea to have Bladestorm consume the rage bar ?

[sharp wyvern]

idk about you but i dont like waiting for rage

and autoatacks

[strange perch]

I /hate/ blade storm the talent tree

[wicked aurora]

I'd rather actually have an economy as opposed to a fake resource

And yes I did like saving 30 rage so I could make sure I could MS on CD and charge weave

in between autos

[wind quiver]

my only issue with charge weaving is inconsistent hitboxes

[wicked aurora]

real though

[wind quiver]

was clunky on some bosses

[warped spade]

They specified class tree, I hope it means both class and spec but...

[sharp wyvern]

charge weaving on rashok

[obtuse copper]

Charge weaving in DF

[gaunt owl]

charge need to be a little bit sticky

so you dont end up charging where he was 2 seconds ago

[wicked aurora]

real though

[wind quiver]

remove minimum range fuck it

[sharp wyvern]

but then you can double charge

[obtuse copper]

Would be huge QoL if charge just had a smaller minimum range

[wicked aurora]

pull sequence on Tindral is so cringe

you're out of range by the time it completes

[obtuse copper]

Removing min range would be kinda weird and kill the gameplay of chargeweaving

[sharp wyvern]

pull on fyrakk is also cringy

[obtuse copper]

Ye I remember this being the case on Echo last tier too

[wicked aurora]

last tier I played Dev so didn't have these problems lol

[wind quiver]

the 70% movespeed from charge node would be so nice on fyrakk

[rare kite]

the tree resetting OP makes it seem like we can't manually do so or at a very reduced rate. coz if its the same rate as live then it's pointless

[wind quiver]

during both p1 and p2 movement

[obtuse copper]

Oh I'm convinced they're just shitty placeholders

[sharp wyvern]

realy?

[obtuse copper]

Because CDR makes no sense for OP or BT

[olive nest]

Not me over here greeding up time right before the first dream rend and then charging into space because boss moves

[obtuse copper]

OP is a regular proc and BT is already designed to fit well between GCDs to the point where 10% cdr makes 0 diff

[minor gust]

hopefully its because theres a massive arms rework incoming

[wicked aurora]

Slayer looks sick tho

[obtuse copper]

[wind quiver]

after he lands in p2 I'd charge to the very front of the room a lot lmao

[dusty dagger]

slayer looks fun but idk about the entire tree being a series of passives

[olive nest]

Totally agree way better than colossus

[wind quiver]

lost me frenzy stacks so many times

[obtuse copper]

Slayer looks good but needs to get rid of the placeholder talents

[wicked aurora]

real

[obtuse copper]

Passives are fine imo if they transform gameplay

[minor gust]

Surely they have big changes coming we don't know about and thats why we have these shit op nodes

[sharp wyvern]

they litteraly said they dont want to add active abilites

[wicked aurora]

all the op stuff was the only weird thing

[sharp wyvern]

and yet we got demolish

[obtuse copper]

Demolish is a good example

[thick kelp]

what if tactician no longer proca op

[rare kite]

this is why i think they are redesigning bt and op. no way they have the same cd and resets as live

[thick kelp]

🤔

[obtuse copper]

New active spell that seemingly causes more problems than it solves

[wicked aurora]

a series of passives that seem to massively skew you towards a new way to play though.....

[minor gust]

Legion tactician reseting CS

[fresh tide]

Lots of the trees add new abilities though

[obtuse copper]

I think it's the other way around

[dusty dagger]

if Demolish looks cool im rolling colosus for the 5% size big boi buff

[obtuse copper]

They're probably keeping BT and OP similar but changing these talents

[teal fossil]

BT is fine the way it is

OP maybe

[obtuse copper]

🤤

[gaunt owl]

[sharp wyvern]

also slayer did not get anything visual

[dusty dagger]

but hear me out, cool demolish animation

[gaunt owl]

WE BACK BOYS

[sharp wyvern]

except maybe the BS procs

[rare kite]

uhh, if they make tactician reset cs and have slayer reset OP that would be quite nice

[gaunt owl]

I DOOMED SO MUCH

[fresh tide]

wtf does 10% cdr on bloodthirst achieve though, is that ever going to even push it forward one global?

[thick kelp]

would honestly be a banger if they change it to legion

[wicked aurora]

OP talents actually make more sense if our rage economy is brought back to pre DF levels

[minor gust]

that would be the only way I accept these OP nodes is because we are getting Legion tactician

[obtuse copper]

I'll be happy as long as they ditch ToM and make IFTK base

[wind quiver]

same

[obtuse copper]

I don't think so still because remember that they made OP a guaranteed proc from basically every spell

So like

You're still getting OP reset from every non-OP spell cast

[fresh tide]

The overpower proc chance from the mastery node is way too high

[wind quiver]

this tree will only further clash with ToM as well

[obtuse copper]

Idm it tbh

But the issue we had was that our rotation felt like shit when we relied on an OP proc to have something to press next global

[sharp wyvern]

if we dont use rage we go Spiteful serenity

[obtuse copper]

So you pressed MS, got nothing and had to wait a sec or two

[sharp wyvern]

[obtuse copper]

[dusty dagger]

[obtuse copper]

Accursed talent..

[shadow ibex]

we just need an answer to the question is arms supposed to be GCD capped or not

[wicked aurora]

yeah but if we have less rage income we're not freely spending as much

[shadow ibex]

an answer from blizzard i mean

[sharp wyvern]

im pretty sure even with no rage costs AA would be more dmg than Spitefull

[fresh tide]

People screech every time it's not gcd capped

"spec too slow"

[shadow ibex]

like if we're supposed to be mashing OP a lot thats cool

idm it. the BS ticcks will be tuned for w/e

[wicked aurora]

not gcd capped arms is best arms

[obtuse copper]

Of course but still, if you have used OP, you've probably AA'd during its GCD which means you get enough rage for another spender which will give you one more OP

[sharp wyvern]

boomer hand take

[obtuse copper]

So realistically you'll end up still OP'ing every other global when low on rage

[fresh tide]

GCD capped during cooldowns, not capped outside of cooldowns imo

[sharp wyvern]

we are already not gcd capped cause we will be channeling all the time

[wicked aurora]

real

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/tichondrius/woahyer

[obtuse copper]

[minor gust]

I need gcds to have fun I wouldnt mind slow big hit arms if instead you press FR thats on the GCD to buff MS instead of hitting a dmg abillity

[wicked aurora]

the funny thing is

[sharp wyvern]

idk what that is suppoed to show me

[wicked aurora]

I played prot, one of the highest APM specs don't mind it

[dusty dagger]

being able to pummel/bolt while storming is pretty huge actually

[wicked aurora]

but Arms being slow is iconic to me

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[minor gust]

its the best node by far

[wind quiver]

now if they could make CS never get parried I'd be very happy

[wicked aurora]

my clear boomer hands

[sharp wyvern]

like arms on sark was to slow for me

[dusty dagger]

[sharp wyvern]

i got annoyed everytime i had to wait

[gaunt owl]

me too friend me too

[wicked aurora]

out of curiosity how long have you played arms

[gaunt owl]

i had the SD proc get parried

[sharp wyvern]

since legion

[gaunt owl]

and consume the proc so i got left with despair only

[boreal quartz]

@wicked aurorawhen smoldo

[sharp wyvern]

quit in BoD came back for DF

but arms all the way

[radiant lion]

why settle for just cs, just remove it entirely cringe mechanic

[wicked aurora]

already dead, I was out for two weeks on work 😦

[boreal quartz]

[obtuse copper]

Real

[boreal quartz]

when tindera

[fresh tide]

Auto attack getting parried is almost as bad as CS getting parried

[wind quiver]

I mean yeah but don't wanna have too high hopes

[boreal quartz]

WB BASELINE LIKE SL I BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

[fresh tide]

delete the mechanic or make it so casters have to deal with it too

[wind quiver]

CS is like 100x worse than anything else getting parried

[wicked aurora]

idk we like 200 pulls into tindralll, sometimes good pulls sometimes maybe shit

[obtuse copper]

I member my best Sark pull ever

[gaunt owl]

your AA still feels like shit too

[obtuse copper]

My CS got parried on pull

Best non-PI pull*

[minor gust]

CS parry on pull = try to wipe the raid without making it your fault kinda pull

[gaunt owl]

i dont try

i wipe the raid

[fresh tide]

and they make bosses that rotate for animations and shit so you never really know which side is actually the back

[gaunt owl]

they havent noticed anything

[obtuse copper]

This is my biggest pet peeve with it lmao

[sharp wyvern]

at leat yours didnt get parried on the kill

[wicked aurora]

tindral randomly 180'ing on your MS

[obtuse copper]

Oh it did

[wicked aurora]

[sharp wyvern]

welcome to the club

[obtuse copper]

We killed it that pull and I got a really good parse even tho it was parried on pull

[fresh tide]

[obtuse copper]

So if it didn't get parried...

Would've prolly been rank 1

[sharp wyvern]

our sark kill was the most scuffed ever we had a soak go on boss and had a hole in melee the entirety of p3

[bronze hound]

Tindral for sure has substance abuse issues. Guy is twitchy and faster than Bolt.

[minor gust]

I had a fat pull on Smoldy but I was denied a top 10 99 because we dont have an enhance shaman

[wicked aurora]

real

[boreal quartz]

@astral yarrow expert opinion needed - 1 L or 2

[obtuse copper]

Found it LMAO

[wicked aurora]

I had a great heroic parse while doing a carry and one of the priests sent me an extra PI so my parse was invalidated >.>

[wind quiver]

would you be in there as arms if you did though?

[obtuse copper]

Didn't apply CS until 00:23

💀

[wicked aurora]

fuck priests

[sharp wyvern]

just pad harder on the adds to equalize it

[boreal quartz]

"the" huntsman

[minor gust]

top 10 outta arms warr not all classes

[obtuse copper]

You're still holding onto that one..

[boreal quartz]

HOLY FUCK

pile on