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Didnt zone into key to do ethical dps. I came for the overall 😎
phial-ble
The fob BS build is pretty fun, the most spins means the most wins
If ya enjoy FoB build, and you enjoy spinning, go Sword and Board arms!
acquire aid
imo, too much padding in most of the dungeons to make either of the spinning builds good. they look good on the meters but a lot of the dps is kinda meaningless.
pushpush
Pushing the good cause, trying to justify a stance saying that Warriors ain't all bad for M+
Cuz it ain't
Stg it's a top tier pick for EB and tott
Anybody who says otherwise needs to get themselves checked
Rise aswell tbh
really good in wcm as well no?
fighting the meta
ye
r they fixed now?
yes
and you're not playing kitchen
you may pull 3 maggotis out
wm 29
but u dont
but thats normal for wm
I had 2 deaths on goliath
unluku
didnt get proper bladestorm timing
anyone know the macro to use leggo and bladestorm together? is it just two /use commands?
Bs or jugg
presumably would be just
/use avatar
/use 15
has to be avatar not bladestorm cuz avatar is off gcd
if it works the same way as puzzlebox in season 1
ah, that makes sense actually, thanks!
bs always
Dont get caught lacking
Double bs? With blademasters?
nah
warlords always
tried soa today in some 28-29's
doesnt feel as bad as I thought
I did some sims first to see how much would I lose/gain on st and aoe and felt good enough to try it out
tier list
👍
Gotta be 'the best specs to brick your key for fun' tierlist
🤓
real
Why is fury so high up 🤢
there should be a kill urself tier under e, put fury there, boom👏🏻 perfect tier list
furys tier set sucks this season, will be better next tho
F for Fury tho
A for arms then
who up blasting low level keys for wellfare
Can't wait for hero spec tier list in alphabetic order
Any real nuance to the Fervor build except send CD's and spam WW?
yes
Is the build supposed to have no massacre?
This is just what WoWHead had but that felt terrible with no massacre.
drop bloodsurge for massacre is what i did
Ah yeah that should work.
whether or not its right tho...
Don't like fob with current set
Fervor isnt enjoyable without Bloodsurge and big packs imo
You need the rage from the bleeds
did someone re-do the fob APL? before the OP buffs it was OP to get rage back for more WWs
deswind did ye
and OP>WW in priority now?
alright , thanks
Des is my favorite
is dungeon slice sim usable for Arms?
yeah its usually kept somewhat up to date by Deswind
Does Cleave hit more targets during sweeping strikes?
cleave aint spingle target
I see, thank You

fury is much more tanky than glorious arms, thus it can be b tier at most
wtf=??????????????????
:her:
powerful creature
wtf
@hazy flower what are my chances to get ember
of nullification
in vault
100% right

only if u do 1 slot
u got might
what are the chances I'll kill fyrakk today
and get augury
5%
You just get augury in vault repeatedly

It’s a given at this point on both chars
Even took it on rogue just to link it to old guild warrior
Mulle was down bad
Pip is also everywhere
most of the time i have 2 set piece in vault + something useless
not like set piece is useful at all
How many pulls
69% is intermission, its not that hard to get there, there comes the fun part
p1 and intermission
are by far hardest parts of the fight now
or well, playing p1 semi clean
cause doing inter with 6 people down is uh
not it
I mean
we had intermission
thats where we at
first souls == second souls
We saw p3
and p3 is honestly not that hard anymore
Well insta died but if seed frogs are prepped
133
Then we ball
i will never kill this boss i swear, 280 pulls so far
whats hard about p2
im legit asking
you wish it was 300
I havent played it
Souls and private aura
So basically rarely a thing u care for as dps war
Ur not assigned to gathering or ccing
aha
Phil, Tindral kill when?

We are on P3 fyrakk and my old guild hasnt left p2 tindral
I feel like the move i made was right
i wonder when will we even make out of P2 Fyrakk
We got to P3 sub 100 pulls
Idk how but kong carried 
we will get there in 400 pulls, like no joke
(100 for me anyways they had i think 60 or so im p1 b4)
took us 60 pulls to even reach Int1...
P1 is hard as fuck tbh
Gathering or cc
everything you can think of
heal, break free, cc, gathering
we had like 15-20 pulls in P2 max
most of it is Int1 wipe
Liquid WA not assigning ppl to spots, ppl being blind etc.
is it just me
or is Darkheart Thicket TEH WORST dungeon
having to heal people to above 90% hp is so hard and they stack
the whole path is super cramped with all the aoe mushrooms and shit
and there's mobs skips where u can easily accidentally pull packs and then u wipe
this dungeon is absolute cancer
the bears are also so fucking strong
healing is fixed with a somewhat barely competent healer, mushrooms you deal with by just moving properly
bears you just prio 1 down
Unless you're doing really high keys, DHT is not scary
im doing +18 now
but i've failed dht more than any other dungeon
by far
and the last boss is cancer as well cuz he silences u
and i like to move erratically
Just stack or?
so my mates cant keep up
It's already in the game it's called duels if you so desire it
mans wants to take the second M out of MMO lol
there's no leaderboard
i want everyone to know
if i am the greatest player in the world
but without leadeboard, no1 will know
Yeah sorry man I'm gonna pre-emptively say you wont make it there
doesn't matter what u think cuz i believe in myself
Usually it's less cruel to burst someones bubble and their dreams than let them keep being delusional
if people arent laughing at ur dreams
then ure not dreaming hard enough
u gotta believe in urself
and never stop chasing ur dream
no matter what
the common thing of all great people in history
is that they never gave up
they kept going and they kept pushing
and eventually they made history or died trying
you need to yap less
it's all truth no lies here
modern day socrates
this is the difference between successful and average people
successful people didn't give up when things went wrong or became hard
If you're wiping in +18s and deem it incredibly difficult then I don't think you're in the succesful group of people
no1 is born taught
i am becoming more powerful with each day
also i never said its difficult
just unpleasant to play
Let me correct myself, I think succesful people would consider an 18 fairly easy and also not complain about mechanics that are easily played around (stop moving erratically)
not my point but okay
word
only losers give up
her.
her.
SLAYER 130 RAGE EXECUTE

true
that shit is 8%
pulls were
standard
tbh
for 28
nothing too special
we just had very good dps and clean-ish run
only 10 deaths
ye
also
mad up
for tank
didnt proc his trinket even once
he was playing double cheat
I'm not tracking the talent one
he procced twice
yes you're not playing it
in optimal setting
that's why people are running the trinket
but he ran both
based
true
@latent moss
going dht now
also started playing soa
I still prefer the feeling of imp ss but sims telling me to go soa, so I went soa
5%
It's 5% atk power, not 5% physical dmg
...
5%-trinkets and leggo but yeah
ye ik i just wasnt sure about their scalings
Like in classic when paladin wore int and spellpower? Those things aren't relevant since wrath anymore iirc
DW
My 28 ad turned into a 26 EB
Cuz we had a 3.7k ret pally who doesn't understand the concept of kicking an augur on cooldown
3.7k
Can't kick on cd
Also spriest who did 200k overall but hey
I had 40 interrupts overall, the pally had 16
Did I say 3.7k BTW?
2 of his kicks were ember proccing on volkaal
If you have that much dps but deplete
Lovely
wasted 3 min
on them
and first pull
was such a shitshow
took us 2:30 to kill first bear
Cuz like, 3 dps doing 280k dps is enough to time this key
(assume perfect execution)
blossom pad
still a very good dps
outside of blossoms
we had
in a clean run
we could've been close to 2chest
or maybe 2chest idk
but ye first pull that lasts 40 sec or 1 min lasted way longer
and blossoms
Bro im happy if pull 1 ends before the timer hits a 2 ngl
And actually looking forward to a good key if it ends before it hits 1
ngl
if dht 29 was timed
I would have brh 30
because key is, I assume - locked?
or is it rng every time
brh 30 is 20 rio for me
and not a hard key
i just realized
how much better this game has gotten this expac
i was reminded of shit i had to do for 30% dps
in sl bfa legion
(didnt play in legion and bfa
)
raidlogging is amazing
9.2 was good
u did the campaign
got the leggo
crafted it
and never did anything again iirc
u could farm mounts mogs and shit
but nothing that impacted player power

I don’t know how we endured that shit
people say shit like
theres nothing to do in the game anymore
chronically online people istg
go do something else
fury no wf and 2 483 weaps
same shit different expac
shit trinkets
wasnt fun ngl
legendaries is like the only bad system i can think of
this expac
i could argue embells could use some real work but they're not bad
they are far from bad imo
i just want them to keep adding new ones so we switch things up from patch to patch
my only complaint is content
specifically raids
i wish there were more small raids in a patch
and then a big raid
its just too predictable i feel like
the biggest thing that stands out to me is that they nerfed shadowflame armor patch and added a bunch of new Amir ones and half of the specs still use one or two patches
God forbid one other embellishment sees play, they nerf it to the ground
Like sporecloak
also there was a bit of an imbalance in the usefulness of professions, too
if an embellishment provides same attack power + very good defensve
that's overtunedo
ive made millions off of JC this xpac and like 20k off of engineering
the only other system i can say isnt good is professions
man DF tinkers were such a letdown
they dont know what to do with it
i powered to learn the special tinker and it was dogwater
I only played in cata private a bit before retail
power wise
Im thinking about making a dps warrior but for races I've kind of come down to dwarf, human and dark iron dwarf. Would human be the best? Im mostly going to do PVE content.
pve = raid or m+?
tho it's dwarf/human
and stats u want
whichever
both are equally good iirc
dwarf gives you some phys dr and bleed dispel in keys while human helps a ton in wcm on 1 boss
hey guys im pretty new to wow and i got a lv55 bm hunter and i wanna make a new character, any reccomendations?
it doesn't super matter, pick whichever you want. I'm Dark Iron at the moment because they look cool.
Dwarf's racial is pure defense, Dark Iron is in a weird spot where you use it offensively, except when you want to use it defensively, puts it in an odd spot.
Human isn't a bad choice ither. Go ntus
new professions as systems were good but there was a lot of dinky stuff, like how hard half of them were to level past 60 compared to some of them being very very easy to level all the way to 100
and their gold-making opportunities/general usefulness
I'm actually gonna sim how good dwarf is tbh
I dont even know
it's what, 3% crit? should be one of the top
hey guys im pretty new to wow and i got a lv55 bm hunter and i wanna make a new character, any reccomendations?
play whatever sounds fun 🙂
If you have any Arms Warrior questions let us know
ok 👍
Does the weapon clipping bother you at all?
and the customization
have u done the quest line for them
velves are alright, their teleport racial is a meme tho
if there's one
unless they buffed it
I only did for dark dwarfs
ye there is
Like when my weapons are on my back? Not terribly.
Dwarf beards going through chest pieces, or getting removed when they put some helmets on is kinda miffed though
and for fat humans
legion argus
im went dwarf from tauren kinda hate it ngl
they do have the best sprinting animation
waiting for earthen OP racial room
and can fit through every doorframe at least
the only time i had genuine fun questing
Im on stormrage but if I wanted to make a horde character would you guys reccomend changing realms?
or w/e new race is called
void elf questline
troll is the master horde warrior race
there's zero need for this any more. everything is account bound
im on stormrage
only problem as horde is crafting
scoliosis makes some mog stuff awkward for males tho
they look so bad
human racial is kinda good
tauren = dwarf as well
dps wise
same racial
what is it
crit
3?
ye
aha ye
warstomp some herbalism
troll has the haste thingy o ncd?
and stamina
Damn bro. Ive only done alliance races cause I thought I wouldnt be able to do a lot of things if I went horde on stormrage. Is crafting the only thing thats restricted?
crafting is not restricted
it's just harder to find
but you can still craft cross-faction
troll is 3min cd 10% haste for 12s
so if you find a crafter of the opposite faction he can still craft
basically yes. You can even send gold from horde to alliance if you're on the same server these days. Guilds, etc, all cross-faction.
i do kinda wish some of the nonthroughput racials would be buffed to be more impactful
like letting trolls ooc regen be a lot bigger or cannabalize fill your entire health bar
@latent moss
:peep:
what key

487
my bdk and priest
highroll all the vualts
its fucking insane
my war is barely 489
ye same on my war

bro i got a crazy cook for slayer
If only I knew that earlier I wouldve made a horde toon. Problem is I have 1 character for almost every class now lmfao and they are all alliance.
489,13 is for speedkills
when is bursting
monster arms key
idk
everyone says arms is so good in rise
I dont see it
xd
good on 2 bosses
some 2t action
Do any of you guys have multiple toons of the same class?
mostly on trash i think
yes
(im mentally ill)
i like how
more dpses play vers than tanks
is there a single tank that plays vers
brewmaster?
Ive thought about making some new toons even though I practically have made one for almost every class but monk but for horde instead. You think that would be bad?
cant wait to see slayer
no real point but if u like leveling sure why not
:xdd:
Doesn't prot war?
Iirc they want anything not mastery
Pwar plays haste
Other 2 stats are crit and vers yeah
But haste is their main stat
This is how arms feels
You just throw urself at the stat page
One of everything please
Haste feels good
Ive played this tier at 25% haste and the diff is kinda whatever
Coming from fury gear that is
It legit doesnt matter a lot

Finally after 10 000 years
Gz now only another 10000 of superblooms until you can use it!
T_T
Suffering for 10 000 years like Illidan
Imo grind wasn't even that bad
CAP
Doing Fyracuck 15 times is terrible
Ah thats just some grindy shit but nothing crazy
Nothing LEGENDARY tho
Balance of Power questline was legendary compared to this lame ass shit
Honestly Id rather have this leggo drop of a mythic only boss
100% drop
they put so little effort in the questline to craft it I woulda rather we just let us equip it when it dropped
Its like an intern made it
Receiving a legendary sucks beacuse of that
Arms owns
If it was, we'd still be tuned sound it probably lmao
Yeah which is incredibly stupid
I dont remember warrior being tuned around Shadowmourne
Yeah, because wrath wasn't as focused on balance as modern wow is
Blizzard wasn't scared of balancing disasters like df season 2
Or like....the entirety of bfa
Much better to be mid without and godly with the weapon than mid with and trash without
is it weird that when i remove slam from my bars my DPS is better? (playstyle question i guess)
No
:3
Slam sucks I miss the last season rotation
yea
Need to try this now
I feel like i slam way to often as an oh shit i need to press something button
Idk i dont mind slam
Nah i mean most of the time i slam i could whirlwind or thunderclap too
honestly i find myself almost never whirlwinding outside of CS (this is probably also bad)
I take it warrior is still in a bad place?
depends on what your definition of bad place is
Performance wise? Not really
For context, I stopped playing shortly after Aug voker dropped.
Warrior is fine, bit short on utillity but nothing insane
From what I saw peeking in on MDI, it looks like it's back to Shadowlands level of stupid. Meaning warrior is on the lower rung of tier. Everyone else does what we do better with no unique reason to bring a warrior.
We never came closer than that, to become meta. Still, we have only gotten stronger over the patches. So think high mid
That is never gonna change unless our entire toolkit changes
Give warrior bl
Give warrior gateway, healthstones, bres and uncapped aoe and suddenly we'd be brought
Ok, so nothing changed since I left. Good to know.
Not really
Fits thematically with the shouting shit
warrior is the same class, fury is worse to play and arms became more degen in the rage department
Warrior dev is mostly incompetent or has no idea where to go
I like the new fury, but that is all preferences
your opinion is wrong
I heard Fury was forced to add slam. That sounds ass considering how bad slam is for both specs.
😎
S2 Vs S3 fury is it's whole own thing
S2 vastly superior in every way 
It's filler when you can't just alternate BB and ramp
Yes it's ass
Odyns hit harder in S3 than S2, so S3 is better
good thing i manipulated the vote
Gameplay S3 is butt
same bro
watched Clarius do it to paladin thingy and went hard ojn warrior xd
no clue if it worked
both tiers play almost identically they're both rng shitfests that will randomly ruin your cd cadence sometimes pog frog
That sounds like saying "This fast car is better in a demo derby."
die unbridled die
you mean having a giant variance in your CD uptime feels bad?
that sounds like the leggo we played entire SL
S3 requires a bit more rotational mastery and thought. S2 is a lot more reactive and feels faster. Basically the diff. Try S3 out, you might enjoy it
Just give it a whirl
having to actively play around enrage uiptime actually giga blows
s3 fury is literally -> press cds, and then alternate Rampage and BB
just macro your first 70 globals 🙂
Don't fuck up enrage/GCDs Vs spam raaaampage rbrb raaaaampage raaaaampage
i prefer arms 😄
Arms owns

Arms do own, but only sword and board arms

stop
Its the same shit allo ?
let me press IP man
I only played S1 and S2, S1 seems like my favorite. Who knows. I can't remember the last time dps warrior was a desired class. Hell, even prot was only limited in the Meta/desired time.
IP and TC
We are desired in raid, we are pretty strong there. M+? Well, we are kings in low keys 
@astral yarrow your socks caused some commotion yesterday
Well we just moved this to be play around reck
with s2 set back we will be at reck uptimes that are similar to prev xpac enrage uppies LOL
its literally same
but feels worse
somehow
yes how it should be if u have charge based rb
It was fun mainly
idk man if u care about M+ meta just play Fotm theres only 3 dps slots
eyir socks
🧦
Me when 3 rb charges with 200% reset chance
69% reset
much rather play around reck than enrage. After having played any OS build, not being enraged perma feels horrendous
@quasi torrent
i need RB to KLOENK
ur name is the biggest cope

Slayer wil just be condemn 
hope u like juggernaut but even more boring
Hey, you're still around. Nice, long time my friend.
fox
I rly want slayer to be cool, but im very afraid
Slayer will have the current arms tier mark my words
I only played warrior since Cataclysm. No thanks.
I used to main something different every expansion but ive settled on forever warrior. Best feeling class in the game no competition
Trust me, I've tried playing other classes. Mage, hunter, Paladin, rogue, druid, nothing scratches that itch like warrior.
pretty much
Yep cant quit yet 
Need boss to die tonight
How have you been?
it can
defeat the lizard for me
Did it change after s2?
My pinkman is fully s2 farmed.. but haven't logged on for s3
I'm thinking of playing it... just don't feel like doing the quest line atm
Maybe I will... it feels like there isn't jack shit to do on my warrior anyways
3rd week.. 485 and 2800... boring
still no aotc tho lol
Haven't played since Aug dropped so in game wise. Happy. At a pretty stable place in life so I can't complain. Finally out of the apartments.
depends on what build you played in s2
if you are playing the auto attack build theres a lot of dead gcds
I will execute him 🙏
this might be true........
What’s m+ build do we use?
Blade storm or collateral damage?
both are fine options and can do keys without issue, try both and see which one you enjoy more. There's also the execute-focused Juggernaut build, so you have options and flexibility in how you want to play
Ty
Collateral is clunky with current tier imo, bs and jugg are both good
clunky ?
That's what I said
I assume collateral is ww build, it just have too much buttons that you want to press at the same time (ww/op/exe procs etc), doesn't feel good
so you dont know the priority
Im talking about feeling of the build. Not about effectiveness. So purely subjective and I've no idea why you trying to argue

"that you want to press at the same time" is not true 😅 it's a priority and for Collateral it's very straightforward so it's probably the easiest to suggest for new players to the spec
arms owns
very nice!
@latent moss
any plate class
has a chance to parry
shit
this is in reference to smash

Tfw giving up 2k dps to play panda
So my 99s could have been 100s if I just played troll ?

only if you were exactly 2k less than the 100
ya u right nvm
troll is more than it sim for if u highroll in cds 
Not quite how it translates but yah
Around there

https://clips.twitch.tv/AdventurousEnchantingCodSmoocherZ-rIgAxqYesxgXfPYK for the Nonbelievers
its fake
Clearly Ai generated
@daring heron I told you they dont believe me
yes
Heathens
I'm telling you man there's no way you can spell reflect a physical damage
its aoe
too
sr is giga bugged
wdym

Like deflecting the chainsaw on the Manastorms boss in De Other Side
“I cast chainsaw”
neck.
is there something i can read to get some info on the legendary drop chance and embers... i am starting to think they're placebo drops

You'll get your participation award eventually...I got mine this week. 14 kills and 30 BLP.

🫡
Nice, very nice
pog
I depleted my 3rd 30 I attempted
because of people with no hands
x)
Gotta see that overall
Is crit actually ally?
I was told arms is squishy and can't live past 25s

2x stacked IP + Dstance and vers flask was enough to survive soulrend safe
IV every time after tho for safety
its on wowhead somewhere
Hey there wanna ask if this weapon is worth crafting?
Is anything worth crafting anymore?
cr wrist
different embels like sf or bsl
fury gear
but no
this weapon
is not worth crafting
craft regular weapon 486
if you want to craft weapon that badly
the weapon above counts as embellishment
and you can get better ones since you're limited to 2 embellishment per equipped gear
ohh okey
200-250k, seems to be kinda avg for a 18 key, no big pulls
Also jugg is still great for this week ya?
jugg is pretty mid
dmg wise
requires good uptime
on high stacks
single bs is a lot more consistent
290k is the most I can normally get in a key at about 28-30 range
oh wait I thought this was fury
lol
I thought that number looked a little low lol
and can do more than 450 ilv dh damage

Yeah, it falls off
So is it even worth using fob if you wonna push higher?
No imo
So BS for Fort and Jugg for tyr/a good tank
I’m not a fan of jugg in m+ at all, I’d just run bladestorm for that
It works, people have pushed it, but meh
I like jugg, defiantly more then BS
And FoB i just don't think is actually worth it anymore
Hurricane is also good for st/prio
Also true, since arms....kinda lacks it
TRy what?
Bladestorm also adds another dimension to your play, negating rezan fear, waycrest tree boss roots, etc
That's nice
But I still fucking hate loosing my interrupt just because I want to burst
espically this season
"Warrior where was your interrupt for the arcanist?" Bladestorm ate it
it's so extremely rare that bladestorm has an effect on missing an important interrupt
jugg is not really that much above bladestorm in st (still within margin) and it's annoying asf or sometimes impossible to keep stacks up in aoe
Plus you already play it in raid so it’s nice to branch out
At the key level you’re doing, wouldn’t you say the single target difference is significant?
Say in tyrannical
wouldn't say it's big enough to lose comfort in aoe
Fair
- some keys you will respec anyway
rise, ad
I'm going full st after first boss in rise
ad you can make an argument for going priestess-volkaal-rezan-yazma so you can swap to st for last 2 bosses
we got like 5 p3s only
No bueno
But saw roar 1 now
Once that's done it's progged through
you go outside of dungeon to respec for boss?
In Raid, do we prefer spear or Roar? I've been running roar as Its what im most used to from M+ but interested in learning if spear would have value in certain situations
rawr
Spear only for Smolderon I guess
Good, fuck spear
spear such cringe
Spear should be pvp only talent
Btw just seen that Critcake video, how tf is a damn rogue beating bis arms warrior on a tyrannical boss 
A fucking outlaw at that
Unaware of tuning
Lemao




