no, leggo and augury also goes that high
#arms
rare kite
exotic kestrel
Slayer confirmed to be Execute focused tho 
summer cargo
empty sluice
viral garden
Fuck this
cinder dove
hazy flower
Thank you I’ve been looking for it
modest marlin
exotic kestrel
Would be insane if slayer allowed EP to stack up further then 2
olive nest
uncapped ashen 
exotic kestrel
Massacre 50% 
olive nest
execute increases size by 5% 
exotic kestrel
stacking
quasi torrent
that would be the most intresting talent we have had yet
exotic kestrel
Big guessing is that slayer defo interacts with SD and jugger id say
Watch them make the keystone just be condemn
quasi torrent
if that's the capstone just reroll
exotic kestrel
Hovering the reroll button already
olive nest
that pink warrior tree looking better by the day
exotic kestrel
if warrior goes to dogshit i prolly go back to retri yeh
although i did commit to finally stopping my reroll spree and stay warrior
rugged cobalt
can we sim dungeons slice guys?
This is my vault.. I have might of the ocean myth and cataclysmic signet brand hero. I don't raid, I only m+.. Is it augery or pips do you think?
I also might play fury btw
exotic kestrel
if u also play fury, id say augury
olive nest
augury
rugged cobalt
And if purely arms, Pips + Might is kinda nice for keys, ye? Even if the pips is only hero
This is patchwerk 5target 2 min XD
How come Fury is more common in the higher keys btw? Just looking at leaderboards and RIO stats
hazy flower
Tankier
Better prio and st
In terms of tankiness
I’d say fury is 1 key level ahead (realistically)
Arms CAN get stacked ip, but its almost impossible on some fights
Still both specs are very tanky
full widget
This is my vault.. I have might of the ocean myth and cataclysmic signet brand h...
Augury cos it can be upgraded to 489
quaint otter
small elbow
guys any burst macro for arms?
boreal quartz
Swifty macro doesnt exist for pve
You can put ur pot and trinket on avatar but that's it
neon hedge
and racial if your orc or something
boreal quartz
neon hedge
🐺
boreal quartz
🤮
neon hedge
🤨
neon hedge
the ms racial felt way more useful than that cringe orc racial
astral yarrow
Whats your fursona name
boreal quartz
Sprint or damage hmm
neon hedge
Larry is my fursona name
boreal quartz
Go troll inject cocaine into your bloodstream
neon hedge
bruh i've been horde for 15 years
need a change of scenery now that it makes no difference in pve
boreal quartz
Nelf was right there 
boreal quartz
Being a furry that essentially disables the option for a decent tmog is better then
I see
neon hedge
fair point sir
obtuse copper
Stoege moment
boreal quartz
I'd play Human to be a self-insert in said fantasy world
Okay woman player character
(mine is also female) 
opal folio
Stoege moment
That’s a name I’ve not heard in a while
latent moss
AHAHAHAHAH
FIRST TIME
I SEE A WEAPON
AND ITS 2 OF THEM
IM DONE WITH THIS GAME
and i get the trinket i already have
cba
exotic kestrel
just get orange stick, then u dont need wep
exotic kestrel
oof
exotic kestrel
no reclears on treeboy huh
latent moss
i started the tier late
exotic kestrel
what no windfury as fury, u didnt have an enhance? or like 4 rogues
latent moss
no enhance
exotic kestrel
fickle dock
exotic kestrel
Pog grats
solid sentinel
Hey Warriors!
Im not flexing or something but I have a question
What would you choose bettwen pip and ember, Is Pip that great at raid ?
Im playing arms
And these are my other tinkets
Im always siming but some ppl say sometimes sim is bait
latent moss
sim isnt bait if u know what u are simming
pips and ember are similar
is that
mythic pips
or heroic
sacred zodiac
vault so mythic no
solid sentinel
mythic pips
latent moss
take pips
and never take it off
unless u have 496 augury
even then on short fights u would just take signet off
and put pips+augury
you can run a sim
if u want
st sim
but im 99.999999999999% certain
pips is ahead on dps
latent moss
change food to feisty fish sticks (crit haste)
or you can sim all food and see which ones the best
sacred zodiac
surely this is a no brainer ember pick
boreal quartz
Clear raid then pick
latent moss
yeah both trinkets are way too good
solid sentinel
you can run a sim
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/71Prk8xW7nyqHq6sZTqwEB
picked all trinkets and then I simed for st with st talents
sacred zodiac
why did you turn off bloodlust
sacred zodiac
fucked up scenario where you have a mage to give you arcane intellect but you used lust on trash so you cant lust the boss and resetting has been removed in 2024 and it is the year 2030 and people still play this game
halcyon breach
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/71Prk8xW7nyqHq6sZTqwEB
picked all trinket...
You're not simming the Pip's nor the Ember at max upgrade level
Also turn on lust there is no world where you're in a raid scenario without it
sacred zodiac
isnt ppaws apl the current one now or
halcyon breach
You get nothing
sacred zodiac
why would you do that
hazy flower
no point
latent moss
surely
latent moss
i wish i could do 4/9 on my warrior to get pips
latent moss
when did u send it
hazy flower
2am?
latent moss
i was sleepy time
latent moss
feet 🤤
latent moss
chatting
hazy flower
neck and ring
solid sentinel
You're not simming the Pip's nor the Ember at max upgrade level
youre, right, this Is what I got now https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b1pvxoZAjmkY7bpKvdJQyW
latent moss
idk about bsl on fyrakk
hazy flower
I mean
you're not gonna kill it in 1 day
try
see uptime
but feelycrafty doubt asf
with the way fyrakk works
hazy flower
at least my dh
solid sentinel
Thank you very much for your time ❤️
hazy flower
got something good in vault
latent moss
i know the solution
dayum
i want embersoul
embersoul time it with tom and fatality
disgusting trinket
latent moss
chatting
hazy flower
483 from vault
latent moss
idk why is no one playing embersoul as arms honestly
hazy flower
473 from chest
I got same ring on warrior too but like I needed a socket to use ring I got 1 week ago anyway
hazy flower
- I like having 1 crafted ring to "manipulate" my stats
latent moss
same
hazy flower
havent done the sims but
with vers bracers locked in
I'll only have 1 item where I can change stats
and I also want flavor pocket soooooo
hazy flower
I got
489 mirror, branch and ember
I took mirror because I was sick of taking sockets
lmao
latent moss
ember signet no
latent moss
ye but its signet
hazy flower
yeah
latent moss
i wouldnt use anything below 496 aint gonna lie
augury combinations are like
1k dps lower
atm
the real crazy one is pips
monster trinket
496 augury can be pushed
a lot higher
with stat manipulation
but pips is a really good trinket
loses no value in aoe or st
@hazy flower the worst part is
i still have a lot of upgrades
from m+
i just cant get them
they should let us choose a piece we want with socket and everything with 12 tokens
latent moss
:xdd:
hazy flower
fucked up
could've padded more
but didnt save my eye beam for pad
got purple boss dam at least
latent moss
ethical
nvm
i dont have many upgrdes from m+
:xdd:
either way
i would love
to get ember
cool trinket
grand idol
This custom apl I keep seeing in higher sims. is that how yall are gaining 1-2k more dps than I can find on any gear compares?
latent moss
a good part of the custom apl we are using is already implemented but there are some optimizations that arent in the official one
iirc
fringe moon
Which pair of trinkets would you use on smolderon? Might, rezans, augury, pips, and signet
grand idol
Probably might to try and optimize the dmg boost phases. From there it would really be preference. I'm sure brand would probably get the best average results.
latent moss
@hazy flower
i fucking died on fyrakk
lost to assa rogue in exe
nvm
illegal pi
me with pi>>>>>>assa with pi
grand idol
Maybe they will just make pi into a nother lust
latent moss
mayube they make it personal
so we dont have specs like
assa
gutted
cause of an external
couldnt align tom for fatality either
i hate this game
also had a dead leggo on use
💀
mint narwhal
Yesterday a friends guild wiped on 0,5% fyrakk
becuase tank used leggo with corrupted seed
and eat a swirlie
💀
fresh spire
boreal quartz
All rets also have it now
sage bison
Any kings have a max inscription alt to help a young blood out with the leggo craft? can tip 10k
bleak ridge
hey there is a macrop to change battle instance in one keybind
dire hinge
hey there is a macrop to change battle instance in one keybind
sure is! there's one in the pins here:
#arms message
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance```
prisma heart
I LOVE ARMS 🙂
tardy crag
Broa gotta dispel
rugged wave
When choosing from Legs/Lariat/Wrists for M+ embellishments, what's better - in practice?
I've been using Legs with Wrists mostly, but I feel like Legs are bit of a simbait
Cause on most bosses - useless, and in trash pulls - I feel I never chain the buff, so maybe sims are lying to me
bleak ridge
sure is! there's one in the pins here:
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742...
thanks
sand dove
Any kings have a max inscription alt to help a young blood out with the leggo cr...
No one has inscriptions what I did was invited my main and alt to the same party.
Logged onto alt with 0 skill in inscription. Then alt f4 out the game re log fast to your main use the item as your alt should still be floating in the world.
Send the crafting order
Relog alt and make it jobs done!
sage bison
No one has inscriptions what I did was invited my main and alt to the same party...
tyty
cunning hound
when is the most optimal time to cast leggo on arms ?
compact geyser
same as fury. outside of cooldowns. simc shows it being used first global but that feels like shit
dire hinge
after charge*
(charge's hit applies your first bleed on the target via the lego)
cunning hound
yea i am using as per simc
dire hinge
in aoe you'd want to lead with a tclap for the same reason
cunning hound
but i feel it's garbage as well
latent moss
i charge rend leggo
troar ava cs
ms ww
then normal rotation
mid fight press it in tom windows
cunning hound
can anyone review my nymue log and let me know what i can improve ? i cant seem to parse high on that boss
obtuse totem
When do you guys use the Fyralath ability in your rotation?
dire hinge
When do you guys use the Fyralath ability in your rotation?
read like 5 lines up 👍
frank fulcrum
its in the sticky, reading it right now actually. looks like you can cast avatar while the leap is still happening before the channel starts, so yo ucan actually bladestorm and fyralath at the same time. kinda nuts
but wondering how folks get the warbreaker off first if you can only cast the avatar during the leap. seems like warbreaker would put you in melee range, and then you couldn't stack axe+ava
without running out to leap in
obtuse totem
oh damn, gonna try that soon then
frank fulcrum
but generally you dont want to stack it with cooldowns since they wont apply to the weapons damage. i think the avatar+axe trick really only helps you with GCD economy
and how that looks in raid is use it right after your first charge
before you pop your cds
dire hinge
yeah, never just raw use it, make sure you've damaged the enemies you're attacking first
obtuse totem
yeah for the debuff
frank fulcrum
without fyr: charge -> normal opener -> normal rotation. My understanding with fyr: charge -> fyr active -> normal opener -> normal rotation. Then after 2 minutes you use fyr when your cooldowns are NOT up.
obtuse totem
Gotcha, just didn't know if it is more of a button to press when you dont have any other CDs left or more of an opener
Alright, thanks
frank fulcrum
Yeah I am glad I checked, I was stacking it with CDs lol. Basically wasting their duration.
obtuse totem
I was just not using it in the first few minutes of combat because I was waiting to deplete my other CDs first lol
boreal quartz
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kPzydtH2M7SBTKXYLh7dvb @gaunt owl finally got a belt
boreal quartz
seethe
latent moss
:timeout:
why the stamina leg enchant
u are missing 14.1 strength
from not taking strength
boreal quartz
why the stamina leg enchant
i am not suicidal
latent moss
u are losing damooge
halcyon breach
why the stamina leg enchant
In the 5 warrior run we did, I lived with 1 hp on 3rd boss in Throne
Imagine if I had the armour enchant instead of stam
gaunt owl
latent moss
gaunt owl
stronger CSHB heal
latent moss
true
exotic kestrel
oke for real tho, do i take myth augury or myth crit haste belt with avoidance and socket...
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jtPdU7abq5Cvm5AFAgJMwV ST sim tells me belt, but currently progressing fyrakk and see lots of top gamers use augury + brand
thick kelp
Check their augury ilvl
latent moss
take belt
489 augury aint beating
489 ember
i can tell u that much
u prob could make it sim neutral
and then hope it rolls high
i would personally take belt
exotic kestrel
Check their augury ilvl
ah yes
thick kelp
ye
boreal quartz
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kPzydtH2M7SBTKXYLh7dvb @latent mossif u make augury sim equal ur a god
my ring bricks it
i think
exotic kestrel
starting to look like something unbuffed by weapon rune or flask or anything
latent moss
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kPzydtH2M7SBTKXYLh7dvb <@6920354957185515...
i cant
i tried everything
lariat was ez
compared to augury
boreal quartz
compared to augury
yea i think its a sf angle for it
cuz that props up versa
idk
almost 40 40 20 20
exotic kestrel
is there some secret tech for lariat? however i sim it it always downgrade over shadowflame cloak
exotic kestrel
almost 40 40 20 20
Pog
latent moss
yea i think its a sf angle for it
nope
for taiste
its equal
even at 489
and 496 just smokes everything esle
iirc only pips beats augury for him
at equal ilvl
489 pips > 489 augury
latent moss
rezans is bait
i will defend this opinion with all my life
i hate that trinket
from the bottom of my heart
im glad i never got it
on 489
exotic kestrel
why
boreal quartz
i hate that trinket
i also do
dire hinge
i like it because little dinosaur
boreal quartz
i got 489 one super early
first week for me
latent moss
why
from my experience
does no damage
in most cases
and then one pull
it just goes off
and does a lot
just boring
augury is fun
compact geyser
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kPzydtH2M7SBTKXYLh7dvb <@6920354957185515...
boreal quartz
cape diff
gaunt owl
FUCK PARRY
rough flame
augury is fun
Man ripping into rezans, and then name drops the rng trinket king, augury
gaunt owl
RNG is a skill
latent moss
augury is fun
augury procs feel like a lot of damage
cause it is
rezans is fucking borign
abstract vale
augury and rezans are the same thing
at least you could kinda feel old rezans 
bring back mr munchikins instead
boreal quartz
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rxJiR1VL6qJtPTqy67d1eG boots dont matter rip
but it wont take any gems but haste
zzz
smoky brook
guys any1 have a raid planner for mythic fyrrak after the recent nerfs?
dire hinge
guys any1 have a raid planner for mythic fyrrak after the recent nerfs?
you may have better luck asking over in the Raid Leader Exchange
https://discord.com/channels/759564659714949210/1157692062930579619
smoky brook
which server? The name is gatecorized as unknown
dire hinge
ah sorry about that, this invite should work
https://discord.gg/m2sMhasz7Q
then the #fyrakk-discussion channel
wanton patrol
outer holly
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rxJiR1VL6qJtPTqy67d1eG boots dont matter ...
Man you have .5 ilvls on me and somehow pushing 7k DPS more
I need to git guder
boreal quartz
link sim
thick kelp
calling it now
hazy flower
and roar
outer holly
Wouldn't be worse than the time I couldn't figure out where an extra 10k DPS was coming from and I forgot to unequip my second weapon from fury swap 😂
boreal quartz
well where is the sim
ornate eagle
FUCK PARRY
rude?
sacred zodiac
add spellblock instead
gaunt owl
i wanna see those caster cry because they get their touch of the magi or something like this spellblocked yeah
hazy flower
70% chance for boss to be immune to spells
if the target is behind or in front of him
(:
thick kelp
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/igpKDAiASZGHCpofuScFQd
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wjC4YtS6bbdghhiEghRx3r secret race change tech
outer holly
jfc trolls really out here wildin' aren't they
thick kelp
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ueFosHV3P1ETQbUV46okCh this is 0 recrafting, just swap gems + race change to troll
outer holly
The price I pay for trying to look pretty is apparently 4k DPS, okay so I'm not doing anything wildly stupid at least by the sound of it
thick kelp
also losing some mainstat from not having 489 cloak + chest
boreal quartz
i gain 300 for troll still
but my haste is "low"
so the sim props up BRH ring n shit
thick kelp
yes
pliant jetty
what happened to EP
thick kelp
ms bad button :(
pliant jetty
:c
thick kelp
fuk tom
pliant jetty
iftk gud
outer holly
also losing some mainstat from not having 489 cloak + chest
Yeah I was rocking double shadowflame on cloak most of the season, plus I went the entirety of last season not seeing mythic chest, so that's a common trend for me lol
compact geyser
im thinking of using spark on the ff legs. any thoughts?
boreal quartz
why not you have a bazillion sparks
lean zealot
so like
2 sec demolish hard lock you
so the dev intention is to make Havoc without horns
teal fossil
hopefully its only a 1gcd channel
rare kite
atleast it's cancelable
fresh tide
"yeah we know fist of fury lets you move, eat shit warriors no movement for you"
blizzard not beating the allegations
karmic fiber
Was this good back in legion?
was pretty shit, but most trinkets were in legion.
inner terrace
how tf are u guys simming so high i'm simming like 225k
nvm closer to 242k but still
grand idol
was pretty shit, but most trinkets were in legion.
Some of them were bangers too. They had to nerf the shadow beam trinket 2 expansions later
Cause it was better than those expansions trinkets
Wait, I think im thinking of the wrong expansion let me double check myself
yep nvm
Wrong expansion
hexed saddle
Was this good back in legion?
it was good for a bunch of agi specs
grand idol
Was there a trinket somewhat identical to that one in hellfire citadel?
hexed saddle
didnt play wod so dont know
grand idol
doesnt seem like it, looking at the wowhead page now, im just going nuts
strange perch
was pretty shit, but most trinkets were in legion.
Draught of souls, convergence of fates, arcanocrystal, antorus trinks, ursocs.
Draught literally cause blizz to change interaction with out abilities
hexed saddle
umbral moonglaives, engine of erradication, cradle of anguish
forgefiends fabricator
legion was probably very close to peak trinket design, tied with mop and wod
proud plover
EoE trinket was great except collecting the orbs
hexed saddle
trinket design hasnt been anywhere close to as good since legion
and thats not even a hot take
karmic fiber
you're joking right
hexed saddle
nope
karmic fiber
engine was a stat stick with a inconsistent proc rate, cradle was a stat stick, draught was good for one class, arcanocrystal was overtuned and was still being played in antorus and invalidated most trinkets from raids for most classes, ursocs was actually jus trash, the proc did like 2% of your damage
hexed saddle
draught was good for more than 1 class and you say that like trinket diversity is bad lmao
tender pecan
convergence of fate was good trink if u had it 
hexed saddle
better than now when everyone and their mother wants the same 5 trinkets
karmic fiber
ye that was also broken and invalidated most things. you can see it being played alongside the mandatory pantheon trinket on almost every boss during antorus
hexed saddle
literally every trinket we have now is just stat stick + damage proc or just flat stat stick
ashes is a notable exception of a trinket thats actually used and is interesting
tender pecan
the aoe trink from sisters was bussing aswell on eonar adds 
hexed saddle
yes umbral moonglaives is sick
u know what the only difference between cool trinkets and boring trinkets is? interaction with a classes toolkit
tender pecan
the owl trinket for casters were op too
hexed saddle
thats literally it
trinket design has been bad because they blacklisted every single external buff from amping trinkets
its just boring
and leads to current situation where everyone wants the same 5 trinkets every single tier
karmic fiber
I mean I'm not comparing them to now but saying anything post wod/mop is comparable is a bit of a meme, the galakras trinket giving all of your major utility/defensive/offensive cds 33% reduced cd and having a strength proc which gives your character sheet strength as a proc is not comparable. Same for things like Soul cap which was literally breaking fights
hexed saddle
how is it not comparable
draught of souls literally changed trinkets forever
specifically because of fury warrior
and to a much lesser extent, arms and rogue
visual fern
draught of souls literally changed trinkets forever
Idk, tell that to my ret pally who pops wings and has 90% crit rate on augury
worldly kernel
Was this good back in legion?
wasn't very good but it was better than nothing. Most people who prog raided had an argus trinket
basically OCE and icon
hexed saddle
reminder that vil looted that
worldly kernel
dude
i never got unstable crystal
but yeah I agree, trinkets have been kind of bland but you really can't innovate a lot of stuff has been done so the whole mainstat proc secondary has been the norm
I do however liked those hellfire citadel trinkets I thought those were neat
i'd like to see some sort of like ignore armor mechanic to a trinket 
shadow ibex
bring back empty drinking horn
worldly kernel
bring back dbw
fresh tide
the drinking horn was sick
torpid sentinel
isn't colossus demolish ability similar to how bladestorm was when it was first implemented you could block parry and dodge but couldn't move and were unstoppable for the duration makes me wonder if bladestorm is getting taken away
ornate eagle
Idk, tell that to my ret pally who pops wings and has 90% crit rate on augury
Ahah! So it is crit wings why augury and legendary does so much more on them
restive sorrel
i swear ive never seen a ret do bad dam with augury on a boss in raid....meanwhile theres my augury whihc feels like its defective because it doesnt do good dam unless I get rly good rng 
they rly gave ret pally everything and warrior nothing
ornate eagle
Our firemage had a 51k dps augury on mythic gnarlroot today
That was fun
Dude did 7.7million dmg with augury in 2min25sec
xdd
restive sorrel
lmfao..
ornate eagle
Rng of a lifetime
restive sorrel
i dont even do that much on fyrakk with augury
ornate eagle
God tier procs
Had 3 augury procs during the burn phase
It did 3.6mil dmg in 20seconds
My augury did 31k dps on heroic gnarlroot today, I had 2 procs during burn phase
visual fern
Ahah! So it is crit wings why augury and legendary does so much more on them
Yah the draught of souls fix was just
For reck giving char crit
Now reck gives abilities crit
Wings gives char crit
Combust gives char crit too I believe
ornate eagle
If tanks had to have that fixed this season
visual fern
Just another symptom of warrior design being dated
ornate eagle
Dps will have to aswell
visual fern
Yes but I'm saying theres no drd value on an offrol trinket so prevalent and powerful
When that has been done in the past
ornate eagle
I told em they should role lock the trinket, just like they did with ursine vengeance
visual fern
I dont actually care, just pointing out the inconsistencies in trinket design/interaction
visual fern
Laughable
ornate eagle
And now it's obv too late
visual fern
Yah
ornate eagle
This would've all been very preventable aswell if rageheart was kept as str/agi trinket
And not vers
So it would atleast be a big dps loss
But now it's only a 1% dps loss for dps
ornate eagle
Which is mainstat
visual fern
storm mauve
I have seen a grand total of ONE rare trinket drop in raid all season
ornate eagle
Huh
storm mauve
and ofc that roll was won by some terrible low DPS pally
The Smolderon and Fyrakk trinkets are a myth to me
storm mauve
hexed saddle
anecdote andy
ornate eagle
Just get it from vault smh
ornate eagle
In the 400 m+ runs or more I've done this season
I've not seen goreblock even ONCE
Not drop for someone else or me
Straight up doesn't exist
Not that I want it, but it's a little weird
That I haven't even seen it
storm mauve
Also Rezan's doesn't exist
opal folio
I've not seen goreblock even ONCE
I’ve only seen it once, week one, champion track
ornate eagle
Yeah I've not dropped a natty rezans, only had 1 traded to me
opal folio
Never again
storm mauve
The game just hates me and won't give me trinkets
storm mauve
I'm using a Jewelcrafted Trinket
ornate eagle
storm mauve
The one thing I HAVE had luck on is sockets. I've had full sockets since week 6
ornate eagle
The only upgrade my main can get in the game is mythic augury and pips, aside from that I'm bis
:hehe:
storm mauve
Mythic Fyrakk/Smolderon trinkets, Mythic Fyrakk weapon. Those are my only upgrades
I'm basically DONE with Warrior this season TBH
ornate eagle
Weapon?
storm mauve
Gholak
ornate eagle
Ah
storm mauve
I have HC Gholak
ornate eagle
Well yeah sure. In that regard I need gholak rageheart augury and pips
But I got leech HC gholak this week so
I'm content
ornate eagle
Tfw my mirror has a better shield than my main
Completely forgot that I still don't have a 489 shield xdd
nova marsh
Demolish being cancelable actually makes it....kinda better ig?
storm mauve
ornate eagle
To safe you from shit, yes
But for dmg I reckon it'll be paramount to finish the cast
Cuz the last hit is supposedly the big chonk
nova marsh
They're description makes it seem like that yeah ]
But like as the comment the dev replied to said
....Why can FoF be channeled and have the ability to both be moved in and canceled and demo can't?
storm mauve
Oh shit I just realised this is #arms
Nome being here made me think I was in #protection
nova marsh
Espically because....this is a meele class
ornate eagle
....Why can FoF be channeled and have the ability to both be moved in and cancel...
Cuz fuck you :3
Idk why
nova marsh
Yeah it's so fuckin dumb
storm mauve
....Why can FoF be channeled and have the ability to both be moved in and cancel...
Likewise Fury of the Eagle can be channelled while moving
nova marsh
It feels like blizzard's orginal reason why Shockwave was a fucking capstone
nova marsh
Likewise Fury of the Eagle can be channelled while moving
....I honestly forgot about fury of the eagle
storm mauve
....I honestly forgot about fury of the eagle
I've been playing Surv because I'm done with my Warrior
nova marsh
But yeah it's silly as fuck to have evrey other ability that works similiar to demolish have the ability to move....but demo can't
FFS, you can move in BLADESTORM
Which is a channel
storm mauve
You just know that mobs are going to run/get dragged out of the final hit as well
nova marsh
Or they might be extremely close to dead anyways
Honestly I think by launch we might end up being able to at least move in it....because the more I think about demolish, the more I realize how fucking stupid it is
I love how blizzard's clarifactions about how it works ends up making the ability sound worse then their own tooltip LOL
storm mauve
Not being able to move during it is an extreme liability for tank use. I assume it'll be completely useless in PvP as well.
nova marsh
I mean that was a given
Being rooted in pvp by anything but the enemy seems like a memey way to fuck yourself
proud plover
yeah lol preveents beeing stunned but forces you to not move for 2 seconds
nova marsh
There is literally zero reason we shouldn't be able to move during demolsih
ornate eagle
"if I bash my head hard enough against the wall it can't hurt me"
Or smth like that
outer holly
Just wait until they say you can block while channeling it and tanks still wind up getting 1 shot through a bug
proud plover
for monks and dh just wait to see a warr cast that, side step and unload with beam or fof
ornate eagle
Just wait until they say you can block while channeling it and tanks still wind ...
You can
proud plover
Just wait until they say you can block while channeling it and tanks still wind ...
it already says you can block/parry/dodge
storm mauve
If you coulkdn't block there would be a riot
proud plover
brings back legion prot artifact ability thoughts
nova marsh
Tbh I'm willing to bet it'll be a similiar case to BDK with the lego
Expect block dodge and parry are a thing (I don't think you can do that with the lego
ornate eagle
You cannot
nova marsh
Kinda figured.
Ya know
This is PURE COPE
But what if demo is off the GCD and we can BS tech it 🤔
storm mauve
Wouldn't count on it
nova marsh
Oh I already know, this is absoutlely cope
But fuck that'd actually be pretty cool ngl
nova marsh
It's not gonna be a thing but fuck it'd be fun
Just like how I assume current lego + BS tech is fun (No I don't have it still it's a massive skill issue)
nova marsh
Tbh I just hope they actually address the on pull issue
Demo hitting like a wet noodle on pull, or god forbid we have to hold it for stacks, would just....be really bad
proud plover
we want it to hit like a truck on pull theen wheen its buffed and 35 seconds later we want it to hit like a loaded truck
ornate eagle
We'll get there soon enough
nova marsh
Honestly I feel like if we get to move I'd be mostly okay with Coll
Being rooted in place is what actually just kills it for me
proud plover
im ok with it rooting us tbh
nova marsh
Sure, it's 2 seconds, but it seems very active with the CDR compared to like the lego
ornate eagle
We have no clue how it plays yet and everything is still placeholder
proud plover
2 secs is a long time, make it 1gcd and hasted
ornate eagle
I've survived the 3sec unhasted channel of Fyr'alath for 2 months
proud plover
^^
ornate eagle
Surely we can bully enough during alpha beta to get this one fixed aswell
nova marsh
The only reason I have an issue with it is I don't even see a themetic reason why it should be a thing
and why coll should just be a dead tree for pvp too ....Not that I pvp but I do find it pretty funny nonetheless
shadow ibex
if they have such a hard-on for the root need to design around it as well
give us hard big DR during it
or the killing spree dmg is dealt over duration treatment
nova marsh
I mean I also think demolish would be wayyy cooler as a combo ability
Like a three hit version of templar strikes
That hits really really fucking hard
untold trench
I personally don't mind a bladestorm ish ability, or fyr'alath like. As long it actually does damage, and isn't a mortalstrike+
nova marsh
I mean really I'm just tired of channels is why
untold trench
If they want to just have a button with some cool animations and some downtime, I am all for it. As long it doesn't feel bad. Based on how it got CDR built in, I presume it just going to be hard-hitting, but not HARD hitting.
nova marsh
I'd bet it'll be like
each strike hits for about as much as a moderately buffed MS
And then the final strike has a final multipler added to it
outer holly
Imagine if it IS hasted, this giant axe swinging animation is gonna look hilarious
untold trench
Final strike effect is all that matters, as it brings the ompfh. I actually have faith they will so that right
untold trench
Will be fun to see what comes out of this, I just fear a (yes it is efficient DPS button) and not BIG DOPAMiNE NUMBER
untold trench
You get axe, trust 🪓
storm mauve
Did you see the thing, with the raid with 30 Pallys?
nova marsh
What, ret can solo the whole raid now?
storm mauve
nova marsh
How many actually dropped thou
untold trench
1 and 1 trinky. They all dueled for it, sadly all bubblehearted instantly by instinct - so no winner could be announced
teal fossil
about 6%
fresh tide
it's pretty much the single biggest upgrade you can get
nova marsh
Yes
But I'm just getting it for fated lmao
Not even knowing if it'll have an upgrade or if I'll just have to do it again
plucky jasper
1min roar in keys and just send with cs? Or 1.5m and always pair with avatar?
nova marsh
Completly dependant on tank tbh
1 min roar is great if you don't loose a lot of the 30 secs due to running between packs or waiting around due to RP or such. It's VERY easy for it to loose a lot of value
But if ur running 1 min roar, yes always pair with WB
molten crane
its gotta be placebo but does execute have a longer gcd than other attacks?
molten crane
that's what i'm thinking
dire hinge
its gotta be placebo but does execute have a longer gcd than other attacks?
the Massacre talent makes it so that your execute hits at the end of the GCD
or is that just how execute hits normally i forget
dire hinge
anywho, you can cast Execute and walk away from your target and it wont hit them but it eats the GCD
it's super cool and very neat
it is different in that way, which is what you may be 'feeling'
dire hinge
that's unfortunate to hear that's happening 😦
dire hinge
heroic does sound like a good place for a 467 player, lots of upgrades in there for them
quaint torrent
for mythic smolderon, would it be crazy to move a point from cruel strikes to uproar?
minor gust
would indeed be crazy why wowuld you want uproar for smoldy?
nova marsh
Yeah but like they're crap
dire hinge
for mythic smolderon, would it be crazy to move a point from cruel strikes to up...
signs point to yes (0% of the top 100 players do this)
quaint torrent
thought so, thank you ^^
dire hinge
it's a decent thought, "roar on every intermission", but the value you get from increased crit + 5% more execute dam for the entire burn (when things get spooky) is just real solid
minor gust
biggest part of smoldy is lining up cds and getting the balls at the same time
dire hinge
and roar isn't that significant enough of our dps to be worthwhile on that fight*
quaint torrent
makes sense. ty :D
smoky kayak
it's a decent thought, "roar on every intermission", but the value you get from ...
you should get roar on every intermission without Uproar anyway
it's just not right at the very beginning of it, still fits into the buff window though
dire hinge
true!
stiff rune
happy guaranteed lego week yall, ill just go sit in the corner with my ember
nova marsh
Didn't u hear the news? Confirmed bogus on wowheads part
Seen a lot of people have 15 kills on h fyrakk with no leg this week
proud plover
i wonder if the people that have 15 heroic kills also have zero mythic boss kills and havent had any lesser embers
shadow ibex
if you been clearing since week 1 probably did at least first few on mythic
and lessers can also come from heroic
proud plover
i got mine on 9th heroic kill - killed gnarlroot mythic 5 times and ingira once
26 fryakk kills in total with lfr/normal/heroic combined, some weeks i did lfr > normal > heroic then since like mid jan it was heroic first
shadow ibex
i just meant the type of player who has 15 unique heroic kills probably also making a handful of mythic kills
gleaming cosmos
Really new to Arms, just mainly curious why S1 set was voted in for S4?
Was is just a strong set or people just don't like the othre options?
stiff rune
fairly certain its just our strongest set bonus this xpac
boreal quartz
Was is just a strong set or people just don't like the othre options?
It also enables cleave as a buttons
Even tho it's plain it enables the most options for builds
hexed saddle
u will bend the knee to your strength amping overlords
boreal quartz
Hurricane / TOM 
hexed saddle
cant believe arms giga brain andies havent figured out ashes + hurricane = broken yet
bs cd is what
~1m?
hexed saddle
surely someone would have tried the 2min cd giga strength trinket with 30% strength amp on 1 min cd in literally any aoe content
hexed saddle
hazy flower
or 50 seconds
boreal quartz
ofc u have to loot ashes first
Btw xannie what about hurricane and blazebinder's hoof/rumbling ruby
Surely hurricane is healthy
hexed saddle
ashes bigger buff
bigger burst gets blasted better
gonna give 10k str next season
:^)
magic canopy
i use it with giga aoe with might
you can basically get a full 30% str amped roar in the entire window
prob more overall damage then ashes
frigid lava
Hnnng
molten crane
if i intervene and then DbtS, will i parry all the attacks?
halcyon breach
The mobs
molten crane
so its literally like they're attacking you instead. kk thanks
halcyon breach
Typically not an issue but if it's in a big enough pull to warrant doing it in the first place, and the mobs moving based on the tank and not you, sometimes a melee might go through while you're not entirely facing all of them
boreal quartz
It's entire duration
proud plover
all attacks for 6 secs, why cant i save some healer from spiteful using it
boreal quartz
You can
boreal quartz
But youll die instead xd
proud plover
i bet its caus they run out of the 10yd range
its ok ignore me, im many jd cans into the night
shy tide
@hexed saddle yapping about S4 arms tech when fury will be running around with 2 legendaries
its gonna be so disgusting
fyraleth and ascandy
neon hedge
Bruh
astral yarrow
i wish
gaunt owl
Delete parry 
gaunt owl
See you in 10 years
obtuse copper
Yessir
gaunt owl
We all gonna be killing Jimmy boy for his bis trinket together and try to titanforge like madman
When secondary stats were good
quasi torrent
gonna pop off
cope
hazy flower
gurthalak action
quasi torrent
gonna pop off
obtuse copper
We all gonna be killing Jimmy boy for his bis trinket together and try to titanf...
Throwback 💀
I got 865 arcano on 2nd kill
Lasted me for like a year or smth
gaunt owl
Lets not forget farming every raid difficulty too
quasi torrent
that's not a thing in cata
shy tide
10 man raiding giga comfy tho
quasi torrent
hc locks u from nm and vice versa
gaunt owl
Its like this til SoO
gaunt owl
The HC dungeon were hard
quasi torrent
no bro wrath is when the game got hard man
raids won't get cleared in 1h for sure for real this time
shy tide
we are going in blind (we have our own private server with infinite consumes and resets)
gaunt owl
that's like saying tbc raids were hard
We gonna see plenty of content with people chain wiping on known mechanic
quasi torrent
I mean after playing gnomer on sod
i can confidently say
average classic player has not improved since 2008
The "top end" certainly has, which is why its so easy right
hazy flower
I mean
you cant really improve
if oyu have 1 mechanic per 3 bosses
and same old recycled content
quasi torrent
But even dealing with the 1 mech is rough
hazy flower
after never playing classic
I can confidently say
that good classic players wouldn't be able to do 4/9m
molten crane
how many hunts did yall run to get that damn necklace for the bracers?
exotic kestrel
necklace for bracers?
the crafting one? i just bought it of the auctionhouse
this one?
molten crane
yeah. i aint paying 40k for that shi lol
molten crane
thsi char is on a high pop server lol
obtuse copper
Wtf didn't those sell for like 5g each
molten crane
things on AH for 40k rn
woven wasp
Wtf didn't those sell for like 5g each
yeah at the start of the expac
molten crane
i know my other chars have them but
woven wasp
but no one does hunts anymore
obtuse copper
I bet people who played a lot in S1 have a ton of them
molten crane
i dont need them there lol
ye i probably have like 5 on my mage
wish i could trade to myself cross server
molten crane
but like
i didnt wanna believe those bracers were really that good, like my brain was actively fighting it
then i simmed it and like jfc
yeah it's my best upgrade even thought i already have M wrists lol
and some other slots are still normal gearm
hazy flower
Wtf didn't those sell for like 5g each
its like
12k on tm
I did like 15 hunts recently for rep and I met maybe 5 people in total
lol
obtuse copper
Damn if only someone with the game installed and an active sub + a bunch of those in the bank would capitalize on that rn...
obtuse copper
molten crane
i really need to check how many i hav e on other toons now lol
at one point i was farming the fuk out of all the weeklys, thinking the reps were going to be important past week 2
most of these hunts arent that bad solo
except the freaking badger one
smoky berry
Do we think there will be any fyrakk nerfs for nythic any time soon?
P1 - p2 Just takes so many pulls to get 20 players consistent on, + having to swap players all the time. 😭
smoky berry
☠️🐫
simple wren
so i gather that most of the time i default to the bladestorm build of these?
