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zealous rampart
mortal crag
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hi guys

zealous rampart
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hi

hazy flower
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I heard brh 29 is a perfect key for havoc

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@mortal crag

mortal crag
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hm

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no

lean pasture
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When do i use the legendary in opener and rotation? Finally ALMOST finish my leggo quest

reef glade
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in da pins wicked

worldly kernel
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doing mage tower over and over is VERY fun

lean pasture
lean pasture
worldly kernel
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they're pretty easy there's ways to make it easier i've just been doing the arms and fury one over and over

outer holly
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arms and fury were pretty easy, think less than 5 tries per for me, prot on the other hand... I'm up to a 25k repair bill on that one

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well 21k at least, I stopped counting, but 7k daily withdrawal limit on guild funds x3 days

vestal smelt
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What do you get from doing the mage tower challenge? You can't unlock the hidden appearances anymore, so what is the point in doing it?

livid cloak
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You get an armor set

worldly kernel
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it's basically the TOS set but it looks like the cruel elite set

outer holly
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It's actually way better than it looks, the red glow on the set looks amazing in game

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idk why even the in game dressing room doesn't have the same display as when it's on my toon, it's like there's a graphics setting disparity

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Also guild just folded as of this week 😦

opal folio
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Best variation of that set is the black one that glows yellow

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I forgot is it normal or heroic

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Basically hd tier 6

ornate eagle
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Best variation is the elite pvp version

latent moss
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pvp sets are sick in general

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sl s1 pvp set

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i think thats the one

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elite white one

dull siren
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meanwhile

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current set

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🫘

latent moss
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valentines set + smolderon mythic sword

magic canopy
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wish we got S1 set again

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for s4

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appearance i mean

ornate eagle
shadow ibex
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instead of the pvp

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idk its a bit too grey/white

magic canopy
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they need to stop making our tier sets white

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its lame as shit

ornate eagle
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In SL all elite sets were white

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And in DF all mythic sets are white

magic canopy
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i have the S1 set

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from slands

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black and red nathria set

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was juice

shadow ibex
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does the s1 set count as white?

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its kinda grey

ornate eagle
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Yes?

shadow ibex
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DF i mean

magic canopy
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yeah its white

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i like it because its not pure white

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but the M set sucks from abberus

latent moss
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elite one

ornate eagle
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And s2

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And s3

shadow ibex
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idk man

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is that white

latent moss
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ye im saying the s1 one specifically

magic canopy
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at least the elite set was red

latent moss
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in sl

ornate eagle
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Yes it's white

dire hinge
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it's rock-white

latent moss
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ye ik its white im just saying sl s1

dull siren
latent moss
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all of them were white but s1 sl was insane

dull siren
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get these

shadow ibex
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s1 set still best appearance we got

magic canopy
ornate eagle
magic canopy
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this set looks so much better

ornate eagle
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Is that black or purple

magic canopy
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then the M set

latent moss
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idk i dont like df sets

magic canopy
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purp set

ornate eagle
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Exactly

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It's purple

latent moss
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s2 prob the best from raid i think

shadow ibex
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s2 set was cool but kinda played out

ornate eagle
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S2 got boring quick

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S1 set is much more versatile

shadow ibex
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i like the doodaads on the s2 set

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all the hanging shit

ornate eagle
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The what

shadow ibex
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but idk seeing it everywhere made it less cool

magic canopy
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can you even get the S1 set anymore

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i know not the elite

ornate eagle
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Next xpac

shadow ibex
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the dangly bits

ornate eagle
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Wir

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Sir

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Leave my private parts out of this discussion

magic canopy
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maybe ill push 2100 to farm the normal conq set

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for this season

ornate eagle
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I farmed the purple set

shadow ibex
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damn just realized our current tier has no physic-y shit on it

magic canopy
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this set kinda sucks tho

ornate eagle
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Cuz its the best set

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Of the xpac

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Hands down

shadow ibex
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s1 had the rocks move independent of the armor

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and s2 had the cloth bits

ornate eagle
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Bro

shadow ibex
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this set has nothing

latent moss
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looks ass

ornate eagle
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Wod had morphing armor pieces

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Where the fuck

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Is that tech gone

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It was sick af

shadow ibex
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yea

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that was cmode weapon tech

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on your shoulders

ornate eagle
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Yeah why is that not being brought back

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It was insanely good

shadow ibex
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bro they did it one tier and said fuck it

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HFC armor is bland as sin

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meanwhile tier 1 shoulders have iron stars on them as a warrior

ornate eagle
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Hfc sets are a sin

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Literal poop thrown at the screen

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And called it armor

shadow ibex
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yea the warrior set is rough to look at

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it looks like a pvp set at best

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from like mop

ornate eagle
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Yeah

magic canopy
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really wish we could get ensembles again

ornate eagle
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But only brown greenish colours

magic canopy
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with the new system getting earlier sets sucks

ornate eagle
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Aka the worst colours

shadow ibex
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theres nothing redeeming about the war HFC set

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its just bad

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its somehow worse than mop s1 pvp set

ornate eagle
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Mop pvp sets are...

shadow ibex
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trojan man

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i actually like the shoulders tbh

ornate eagle
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Stop right there criminal scum

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All your opinions are now forfeit

shadow ibex
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never forget

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jesus christ

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i dont even know what they were going for

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its got the shitty green glow of TBC items

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i could like the shoulders if they didnt have random DH green shit on them

ornate eagle
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The shoulders are good

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But the helmet and the rest ruins it

shadow ibex
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the chainmail helmet beard

ornate eagle
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Very hard to make it work

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Like all mop sets for warrior

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Are just shit

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All of them

shadow ibex
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i like the last mogu

ornate eagle
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Look at the mess that is soo stuff

shadow ibex
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save helmet

ornate eagle
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400 tusks with too much glow

shadow ibex
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you can make mogu work with a good helmet

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i like the belt and shoulders

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idk what helmet tho

ornate eagle
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Bad colours

shadow ibex
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thats the best helmet in the game btw. the mop dungeon helmets are chefs kiss perfect

ornate eagle
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Not a fan of washed out green ontop of greyed out green

shadow ibex
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if the shoulders didnt have weird clippy glow

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mogu reminds me of tot

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and last time SMF was a thing

thick walrus
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It's not like jade having magical properties was a thing in mists....

shadow ibex
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remember looting x2 of the axes from tortos

opal folio
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So tasteless

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I remember the belt also clipped into a lot of races

shadow ibex
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arc reactor shoulders

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can you spot the dwarf

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hes under there somewhere

opal folio
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Tragic

quasi torrent
shadow ibex
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i forgot the hlmet even had a glow

opal folio
quasi torrent
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yes

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normal is blue i think?

opal folio
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Yeah, heroic was green

shadow ibex
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i wanted to like this set so much

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didnt see wolf spurs drop until way after prog tho

quasi torrent
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i still like it
but the back of the helmet looks silly

shadow ibex
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i like all the tusks but the glowy shoulders

quasi torrent
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without that part id actually use it a lot i think

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i used to use the mythic version quite a bit in bfa actually

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and legion

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but usually without helmet

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cause obv u see your character from behind and urgh

worldly kernel
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cmode warrior >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ornate eagle
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Most helmets are a sin, especially on dwarf

quasi torrent
worldly kernel
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really?!

quasi torrent
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Yeah idk, doesn't do it for me

worldly kernel
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think it looks the coolest ( imo ) there are other sets I like

quasi torrent
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in the slightest

worldly kernel
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I wish I got the s1 elite set form this xpac

ornate eagle
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The purple one is better

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Than the red one

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The non-elite version

quasi torrent
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i got my legion s3 alliance color version removed

ornate eagle
quasi torrent
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the t6 remodel+recolour

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sad times

ornate eagle
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But

worldly kernel
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I just liked the black and red

ornate eagle
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That one wasn't faction locked

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Cruel elite glad only has 1 colour

worldly kernel
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i'm working on 1800 in solo right now to get the set and getting the s2 elite when s4 comes back out

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cruel elite was cool but the mage tower recolor looks too much like it

ornate eagle
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Matter of fact all legion elite pvp sets weren't faction locked

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The basic ones were

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But not the elite ones

ornate eagle
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In bfa you had different elite sets in s1 and s2

worldly kernel
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this one was EXTREMELY underrated

ornate eagle
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Hands down

worldly kernel
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once again I didn't get it

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only regrets was I never got cmode stuff and that set

ornate eagle
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I was 100 rating off of it in wod

shadow ibex
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yea i missed wod

ornate eagle
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And then stopped playing...

shadow ibex
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thats only set i regret not being around

ornate eagle
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I was around but simply didn't try enough

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And I didn't bother with cm stuff at all

shadow ibex
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i didnt pvp seriously until BFA s1

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the time of DHs metaing your stormbolts

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and blade dancing war breaker

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what a fuckin dumb game

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remember when meta gave DH invuln frames

ornate eagle
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Or melding your stormbolts

shadow ibex
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like a fucking fighting game

worldly kernel
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dude on my warr

ornate eagle
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It still does

worldly kernel
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there was 1 week left of the season

shadow ibex
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if you meld a bolt fine thats skill

ornate eagle
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Meta is still an immunity

shadow ibex
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but just randomly pressing ur buttons

opal folio
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I remember bfa DH just draining your healer mana

shadow ibex
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yea it was p much impossible to do 2s

worldly kernel
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my friend resubbed we ended up getting duelist like 2300 or something in a week thats when DH shadowpriest boomy was just too good

shadow ibex
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DH just auto won with mana clash or w/e

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and you couldnt peel or sit on them

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blade dance and their CC was godly

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then s2 came and you had x2 tank trinket and warrior was fun again purpleface

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lot less time spent in dstance

opal folio
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Was it the underrot spore trinket?

worldly kernel
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PVP just sucks

shadow ibex
opal folio
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Good times

shadow ibex
# worldly kernel PVP just sucks

2s as a warrior is usually a good time with a healer who knows things. you have an answer for a lot of stuff. not super S tier but with good play war X can win a lot of match ups comfortably

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no matter how bored i get with wow thats something i always fall back on. grab some healer from the raid team and try 2s out

latent moss
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arms stronk

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playing against mw is the best

shadow ibex
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my most fun in pvp was v frost mage in bfa cuz was just a match of answers

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anything they did we could respond to just had to play smart

latent moss
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i remember

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i think it was s1

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some monk streamer was complaining about arms

shadow ibex
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i mean great pyro was busted

latent moss
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cocoon

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arms with spear

shadow ibex
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that shit was insane idk why that was in the game

latent moss
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wrecking throw ms

worldly kernel
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was doing a wellfare normal somehow got 51% tom BIG strength

gleaming cosmos
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Confirming to make sure I understand correctly, the opener section suggests that it's the same as the priority but you'd never prio roar before Avatar > Warbreaker because you want those buffs first right?

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Also assuming it's better to thunder clap to reapply rend if ever needed even in ST for a rage dump?

hazy flower
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both are tiny bit different depending on whether you're running m+ or raid talents

gleaming cosmos
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Guess I want to understand both, mostly play M+ right now but I like learning.

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Generally running Bladestorm build but sometimes I run juggernaut.

hazy flower
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for aoe you'd want ava and warbreaker active before you TR

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because it's uncapped

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and while the bleed is most of the damage

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uncapped hit is pretty big

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for st you'll ideally use tr before CS/Warbreaker

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because it's nothing exceptional in st

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ms>op(both stacks)>ww>tc in m+ as rage dump in st

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in raid you do ww>slam>tc because of crushing force

gleaming cosmos
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Got it thanks.

torn goblet
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So I got the leggo, and Im doing the quest. Is the Taut Tethercoil bugged? Im 4 killed in and no credit. Or does it not always give credit?

halcyon breach
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Unless it's for some reason bugged, it always gives at least 1 per rare you kill

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Just be sure you don't press escape after you use it, since it's a hidden channel

torn goblet
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Yeah, I was reading on wowhead that charge and leap can cancel the channel. Just tested killing a rare without using those, got credit

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That blows

rare kite
molten crane
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Be me. Hype to try warrior I've been gearing up in M raid

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Checking buffs, all g

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Pull timer, remember my opener

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3 2 1

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Boss targets tank. Aight we go

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Charge , MS

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Boss melees me and I die

teal fossil
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Not your fault

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All good

molten crane
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How dis happen tho

rare kite
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You were the first to attack the boss

inner terrace
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how

molten crane
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Maybe not Ms. Cs

inner terrace
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MS hits harder tho

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I don't know how u rip threat after the tank already hit boss with like 79k lol

molten crane
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Maybe he didn't hit boss yet. But boss was 100% pulled by the time I hit him

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And yet

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Deadge

inner terrace
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how he get threat without hitting boss

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is ur dumbass tank just walking into the boss LOL

molten crane
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I

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Would nit put it past them lol

inner terrace
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LEAVE!

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GET OUTTA THERE!

elfin mantle
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Bonjour, des war arms FR expérimenté pour des conseils svp ?

teal fossil
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Bonjour

elfin mantle
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Tu es FR ? Tu pourrais voc pour m'expliquer quelques astuces ?

frigid lava
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I guess it is easy to farm gears. I've been back close to 2 weeks and about 483.

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Just solo queueing M+s

rare kite
elfin mantle
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@rare kite i said : i search a french players, who can come to mic to help me and give me tips

gaunt owl
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The answer is

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push MS on CD

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why dont you just ask that in writings ?

magic canopy
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Most of the talking here is dominated in english so it's probably hard to find good advice in different Euopean countries

quasi torrent
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most europeans in here are not british

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or irish for that matter

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so their native language will not be english yaya

magic canopy
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there are a ton of EU players here for sure, but i have almost never seen anyone speak non english in here

quasi torrent
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cause its not allowed per rules iirc.

magic canopy
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wait really?

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huh

quasi torrent
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well if you allow messages that arent in a language the mods can speak

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you can not moderate it :3

elfin mantle
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it's useless to speak about that, i do what i want ^^

opal folio
quasi torrent
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ill just have you know its rather unlikely someone will hop into VC with you to basically coach you.

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thats something that just doesnt really happen

zinc wolf
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Oui oui

dusky dune
# elfin mantle it's useless to speak about that, i do what i want ^^

Yes, unfortunately when it comes to European players this almost always only applies to the French. Everyone manages to adapt, Germans, Italians, Spaniards and many other nationalities. Only the French often insist on continuing to write in their native language - how about adapting to the rest of the community?

trim lintel
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cause our english in france is so fucking bad we prefer to speak french 😭

valid walrus
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Fun fact: French have English from the first class they go to, but refuse to learn / use it.
It's the same when you go to France. They refuse to talk

trim lintel
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it's just that our school system is bad at teaching another language, same goes for spanish and german lessons, it's pretty rare when students get good at a new language from school

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all the student who were good at english were playing video games and had to communicate in english at a "young" age

valid walrus
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Yeah, the father of my French friend said it's because French people still despise England culturally so they don't even put effort into teaching it.

It's a petty thing TBH keks

green geode
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I hope the pandamonium event will bring back the challenge modes

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I would like to get that set

zinc wolf
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And here are slavs, knowing half the slavic languages just by default + learning english and german/spanish or french cause we can

frigid lava
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I speak two... that's plenty for me.

gleaming cosmos
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What talent to drop for Ignore Pain

dull siren
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?

gleaming cosmos
dull siren
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the one next to it

hardy olive
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is it true that if u kill fryrakk for the 15 time u get guarantee Leggo?

astral yarrow
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Not 15 kills just whenever. It’s datamining though, so nothing is certain ^^

frigid lava
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man I only killed him normal twice 😦

elfin mantle
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@dusky dune i don't speak very well english and i want help in vocal with a french guy to understand what he say.. why you want i ask it in english so

untold trench
cloud dawn
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reall struggling to improve my parses on myth gnarl and igira and usually just change to fury for those fights do you guys have any tips, running pure st build

untold trench
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I would place my logs in #449510248579858432 for people to break down what I did well and what went wrong. Now parses in general are very timing and gear dependent. Use example lorrgs to see what people do and logs for what they use. Then you pray for good RNG.

dull siren
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despair

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@gaunt owl @astral yarrow

gaunt owl
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looks like the kill time we got back then

astral yarrow
exotic kestrel
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starting fyrakk progress tonight, any tips on trinkets? between 489 might, 489 ember and 483 Signet brand? Might + signet sims highest ST (might + ember loses like 1400 on 5min ST)

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thinking i just take highest ST right

dull siren
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What r u running that makes ember -1400

exotic kestrel
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recrafting both rings to haste/crit gives me like 500 dps, but i honestly think id rather keep the extra vers

dull siren
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There's 0 point to keep the extra verse.
You will hit DR's and that's why ur Ember is simming bad

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You gear is very badly optimized

exotic kestrel
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holy

dull siren
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can probs be optimized up to 249k

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but i just did a quick one

exotic kestrel
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i thought i was decent at simming

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i have laerned

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learned*

dull siren
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you have 80/85%, Uptime of Crit Phial.
On Fyrakk Mythic, So it's worth running that Phial.

As well as Crit / Haste food is better than stat food

gaunt owl
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and Fyrakk isnt a spooky boss dmg wise

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you use SR for pretty much every overlap so you arent in danger

exotic kestrel
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ahh oke, i just always sim with vers phial coz im still working on defensive usage alot

gaunt owl
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spooky time is when you have the line or a dot and something come up

exotic kestrel
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aight, thanks!

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I prolly shouldve known the crit phial was that much better, but never thought about it

gaunt owl
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there is a reason the base flask is crit one

dull siren
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The best stats you can have is like

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42/42/21/21 @exotic kestrel

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crit / haste / mast / vers

shy tide
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if you are on fresh mythic prog

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or just verse/x something

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from what i am seeing his gear doesnt have a lot of verse in the first place either hmmNod

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fyrak dps check is quite lenient now and the survival check isnt that much, especially since arms still kinda struggles

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epic top 3 early deaths

gaunt owl
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skill issue

shy tide
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i had an arms warrior in my key today

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bro had 850K hp

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thats not a real number

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icant

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leggo and 488

latent moss
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he wasnt running et then

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but yeah

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giga low hp

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for a plate

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on top of having horrible passive mitigation

valid walrus
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Can't wait to use cleave again in S4 xan

nova marsh
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Fuckk that

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Rerolling ret LOL

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really I'll just main whoever gets the lego

zealous rampart
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if you wanna sleep while playing ye go for ret

worldly kernel
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We’re feeling the burnout boys

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Kinda just want s4 to come out soon

latent moss
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the burnout hit me 2 months ago

gaunt owl
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plenty of time before S4

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they need to bring the secret patch soon

nova marsh
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That and the burst is kinda satisfying.

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Said ret also has....very bad luck

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apparently I sacrificed their entire expansion of luck by getting incarante icon LOL

zealous rampart
zealous rampart
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i just liked it so much when templar combo is the optimal way

nova marsh
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Same

zealous rampart
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i dont like passive combo point generators

rugged cobalt
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How come the 2x Bladestorm build seems to be most popular this week on Subcreation?

nova marsh
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I preffered it when they were closer

zealous rampart
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rather than timing key

nova marsh
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Cuz CS just....feels like shit

rugged cobalt
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So you're saying it's padding overall instead of prio damage?

zealous rampart
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with gucci combo point generator

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templar combo feels like 4 charges of crusader strike thats cleaving

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ACS cleaves too obviously but you dont feel it yhou know

nova marsh
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I think it feels like shit cuz going from temp strikes to CSAA with awkward feeling forced downtime isn't great

zealous rampart
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i like ST build more cause i get better results too, bs build kinda depends on tank pulls

nova marsh
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I'd love to say we'll be back to Temp strikes next season or it being pref, but idk what set won for ret (I'd imagine it's S3 as it's probally the most impactful)

latent moss
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way less st

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single bladestorm is the way to go

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best of both worlds

worldly kernel
nova marsh
latent moss
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ye i mean

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thats wow

nova marsh
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I'm happy with 2.7k, aotc, and 483

latent moss
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unless u are pushing keys/pvp

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not much to do

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besides raidlogging

nova marsh
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I don't even raid log I just go on tusedays to pug fyrakk

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Because I need literally nothing else

latent moss
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its not league or cs with infinite replayability

nova marsh
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And that's okay

latent moss
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y to each their own

nova marsh
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Regardless of how blizz wants to try otherwise

latent moss
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i wouldve quit ages ago if i didnt raid mythic

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not quit but more like

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took a break

nova marsh
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I have friends and enjoy wow and I'm just not good enough for mythic

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I take breaks evrey season lol

nova marsh
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Fuck even when I'm on the grind I don't play my warrior during aff and incorp weeks keks

latent moss
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anyone with time can mythic raid

nova marsh
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Bold of you to assume I have time as well

worldly kernel
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I have a guild asking me to join their prog for CE and I don’t have the heart to say they have people who are not cut out for mythic raiding they’re Around 300 pulls in on smold

latent moss
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ye im just saying skill doesnt matter as much as people think it does

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it does in top 200

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but in top 1.2k

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not really

nova marsh
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I'd like to like

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Not get carried ya know

worldly kernel
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This guild is 6/9 with people clicking and very new wow players

latent moss
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i mean you will get carried if its ur first time mythic raiding

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but thats how you get better

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dying to stupid shit

latent moss
worldly kernel
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The first time is always the worst time but progresión raiding is very fun especially with people you enjoy raiding with

latent moss
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they might get ce in 11.0 if they keep playing the game

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in s4

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m+ is a great way to get better fast

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in keys that actually hurt and punish you

nova marsh
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I'll do keys for S4 but raiding is probally...na

latent moss
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m+ is the main gamemode in s4

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dont @ me

nova marsh
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It literally is

halcyon breach
latent moss
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ye cause they dont raid

nova marsh
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Raid and keys are fairly different enviorments tbh

worldly kernel
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Try to find player good at both challenge any%

halcyon breach
#

Nah even if they raid they're still like that

#

And they only appear good because they've got a high score

nova marsh
#

Probally got carried clueless

worldly kernel
#

If you think about it the % of players who are good at one thing let’s say keys or raid is actually pretty small compared to the player base of the spec

latent moss
#

i agree those exist but if u are new to the game or you were a casual m+ will help

latent moss
#

(he inted the key)

halcyon breach
#

Sure M+ helps you get better at playing your class, not disagreeing with that

nova marsh
#

Healing or damage parses thou

latent moss
#

both

worldly kernel
nova marsh
#

How the fuck

latent moss
#

m+ andies

halcyon breach
#

But it's also still very different to doing M+ and being decent at that, and being decent in raid

#

Insert Gromnak clip

latent moss
#

called me a raid player

#

:xdd:

nova marsh
#

Imagine being able to do more dps on your alt in 440 gear then your main in 483 gear....this is a joke this never happened

gaunt owl
#

mplussers are secretly shit at the game

#

and need validation from the community

latent moss
#

i dont think its a secret anymore tbh

nova marsh
#

I don't even push high cuz I don't wonna brick keys keks

worldly kernel
#

As long as I ain’t grey parsing we are good to go wicked

#

I brick keys all the time it’s called cursed build in a 25 oops

nova marsh
#

Claymore after cooking up the most cursed build known to human kind and somehow still parsing blue

worldly kernel
#

It was a brh I did some like shockwave FOB build and axe was my top dam and somehow managed like 230 overall

#

I didn’t have roar or avatar

#

Think it was spear shockwave FOB

nova marsh
#

...

#

The legendary as top damage is the most cursed thing imaginable

#

Granted if your tank pulled the whole gauntlent into a corner, you'd probally hit the max marks

gaunt owl
#

if lego is your top dmg you doing something wrong

nova marsh
#

Like running the most cursed build known to humanity

worldly kernel
#

Whirlwind baby

teal fossil
#

Leggo top dam

gaunt owl
#

even if you press the wrong button each time

#

lego shouldnt be top dmg

hazy flower
#

thats why I'm an mplusser

clever crag
#

E M B E R

shadow ibex
#

tindral ded

#

fyrak jail here i go

dire hinge
#

Grats on Tindral kill though!

nova marsh
#

I stg

#

if my ret alt sees a drop

#

I'mma scream

opal folio
#

knowing the one you just did was harder

latent moss
#

meh

#

i think fyrakk is prob harder rn

reef glade
#

tbh tindral like, you still need to get thru 90% of the original fight

#

which is still kinda ass

#

but its like, 3 mechanics you need to know how to do and just be able to do them in quick succession 1 after another in a bunch of different patterns, where fyrakk is like about 15 different mechanics

#

like i think my guild would (hopefully) be able to like instaclear that mf tindral after 600 pull kill before the hp nerf critcake

#

but like 100 pulls in on fyrakk still havent seen p2, 4 people just deciding to not get out of the way of the frontals every pull...

#

often the same people every time...

opal folio
#

classic

reef glade
rugged cobalt
#

What's the best way for us to sim for m+ btw? PAtchwerk 1, patch 5, dslice?

nova marsh
#

Patch 5 typically

#

But most people just don't sim for keys and just sim pure ST as it's usually more accurate and up to date

latent moss
#

just sim st

#

and change trinkets

#

for trinkets you can sim 5t patchwerk and apply ur brain

sacred zodiac
latent moss
#

fyrakk def harder

opal folio
latent moss
#

prenerfs sure

opal folio
#

I’m still progging fyrakk, too early to come up with my own conclusions, harder to compare with all the nerfs that came out

latent moss
#

after the seed nerfs

#

the fight is free

sacred zodiac
#

me when i copy paste opinions on cd

latent moss
#

and after the 10% hp nerf

#

u jsut skip half of p3

shadow ibex
#

10% hp nerf seemed unncessary

#

p3 was a joke

sacred zodiac
#

the hp nerf didnt really change the fight at all

shadow ibex
#

we got there twice and killed it second time

#

the phase ends so fast

#

before anything scary can happen

sacred zodiac
#

the fight just has higher recorded avg wipes cause the fight ends in 5 seconds if someone is not paying attention so you farm p1 wipes

opal folio
#

Spongus

#

Is fyrakk harder?

sacred zodiac
#

ye probably

opal folio
#

Well, shit

sacred zodiac
#

both p1s have pay attention quicktime events fyrakk just has an additonal positioning check

halcyon breach
#

You will spend a lot of time just waiting for everyone to somewhat understand how to get through intermission

#

Will take a surprising amount of time

sacred zodiac
#

statistically unlikely but possible to have someone ask how to read the weakaura 200 pulls in beware

#

any enha -> ele swappers without saying anything?

halcyon breach
#

aware

opal folio
#

We actually had someone prog 3 nights of echo, and then at the end of the raid we found out he couldn’t read the weakaura list

sacred zodiac
#

king

opal folio
#

Just kept winging it with “it’s my spot, you’re wrong”

halcyon breach
#

Making sense of WAs challenge difficulty literally borderline impossible

sacred zodiac
#

and double checked whether they were right???

opal folio
#

I guess not 🤷‍♂️

sacred zodiac
#

???

opal folio
#

@tranquil sundial do you remember the warlock incident?

#

I guess he sees this when he wakes up

visual fern
opal folio
#

It’s been a while so I forgot exactly how it went down

#

Think first night we chalked it off to confusion, second night was him going “I’m where I am supposed to be”, and then by the third when he was questioned about it, it became clear he didn’t understand how it works

hazy flower
#

as usual

#

arms fucks

#

12 rio also

#

24 to 27

#

like 1 minute from 2chesting

frigid lava
#

arms fucks agreed

#

I think it's better than fury besides parsing

hazy flower
#

for m+ its whatever your comp needs more

#

but objectively in most situations

#

fury is better

frigid lava
#

I've been fury for more than a decade then I just couldn't stand the annihilator cycle.

#

now I'm in love with arms style

untold trench
#

I just want to thank you, for not calling it Odyn's Fury

frigid lava
#

I liked season 1,2 rotations... not s3

latent moss
#

idk

#

furys popularity in m+ says enough

#

about how enjoyable the spec is

#

in m+

hazy flower
#

@latent moss

#

67% bsl uptime

#

in tyrannical eb

latent moss
#

ye but was it up when u needed it

#

bsl is cracked

#

also skill expression

#

using ip properly will increase the uptime

strange perch
#

Whats bsl

minor gust
#

Big Scrotum Lint

strange perch
#

Thats what i thought thanks

minor gust
#

yw

nova marsh
#

That's overall?

hazy flower
#

ye

#

in eb 27

frigid lava
#

what's bsl

opal folio
#

Blue silken lining

#

Mastery embellishment

frigid lava
#

how much mastery does it gain?

restive sorrel
#

like 630 at 486

sage badge
#

2x BSL kinda owns

mighty flower
#

should you macro Warbreaker+Avatar or Avatar+ TR? Also does anyone have a macro for Warbreaker+Might+Blood fury?

inner terrace
#

it is 4 lines and u can choose ur trinket spot

mighty flower
inner terrace
#

no need to macro those together

#

just gonna serve as a crutch at some point and you'll change talents someday

tender geyser
#

does this always give a chest

#

or a random slot?

#

cuz i need legs so bad i've done like 30 dungeons and they're still 415 ilvl

magic canopy
#

random

tender geyser
#

that's so stupid

#

why would any1 spend nearly 400 flightstones

#

for a random piece

#

unless u can refund it?

boreal quartz
#

Alt catchup

tender geyser
#

then let me pick the piece

#

stupid devs

boreal quartz
#

Never been like that for any catchup chests

#

Youd want 10.0.5 thingy ig

dire hinge
#

yeh, those are just enough to get your foot in the door for dungeons or living through Emerald Dream world content, but that's about it

teal fossil
#

Equipment chest giving chest

tender geyser
#

i've gotten four 463 wrists

#

and not a single legs

#

this is ridiculous

#

let us trade pieces 3 to 1

#

or smth

frigid lava
#

I bought that 350 flightstone 441 too

#

mistake

worldly kernel
#

yeah its supposed to just catch someone up who you boosted

tender geyser
#

the shitty thing about legs is

#

i can't craft em cuz i need them to be tier set

#

and crafted can't be converted

#

so im stuck with these 415 ilvls until by some miracle i get a legs drop

#

pve is so stupid i swear

halcyon breach
#

welcome to gearing a new character

tender geyser
#

just make it like pvp

halcyon breach
#

Gearing is already incredibly easy

#

It doesn't need to be easier

tender geyser
#

u earn X honor/conquest after each match and then u buy the piece u want

#

why does it have to be RNG

#

where's the fun in that

halcyon breach
#

Having a gear vendor for everything is not the solution

#

The catch up crates are just fine if you got a new character, the only annoying thing is that flightstones are capped, so you can only buy 5 at a time

#

Unless you have multiple characters already with flightstones

#

I liked Badge vendors as much as the next person, back when they were still a thing, but considering how easy gearing is now I think it's just fine we don't have it for both PvP and PvE

strange perch
#

im about to finish the quest for legendary

#

what will be the optimal use of it in m+ for pulls?

#

I mean what is the ability that spreads the dot?

worldly kernel
#

gearing this season is the fastest it's been in a very long time

tender geyser
#

the shitty thing is i cannot up-convert crests either

#

because apparently

#

being 460 ilvl with a 415 legs

#

doesnt give me the achievement

#

which unlocks converting like 90 crests into 15

#

from the stupid NPC vendor

#

every piece has to be above the level needed

#

it's SO dumb

worldly kernel
#

character power progression, there would be no need for dungeons and raids if blizz just handed you gear for doing extremely trivial content

astral yarrow
#

dont you get tired of complaining? It seems to be all you do

worldly kernel
strange perch
#

so charge in, ww, then use axe then cds right?

worldly kernel
#

Think it's CD's then send axe

tender geyser
#

does +20 give more crests than +16?

worldly kernel
#

it's also not modified by our damage modifiers

astral yarrow
#

In m+ its kinda fluid. Using it at the end of an IFTK buffed CS is banger as well

#

just for the hasted channel

tender geyser
#

it seems like the fastest way to gear is to just do +16s with my 458 ivl so i can get aspect's crests

#

and then just craft 486 ilvl

#

otherwise if i try upgrading champion tier it will take forever

#

u need like 100+ crests to go from level 1 to level 8 just for 1 item

#

i'm getting 12 wyrm crests on +15 each dungeon

#

so that's 8+ dungeons per item

#

with 10 items that's 80+ dungeons

#

not worth it

#

better just do +16s so i can directly craft 486 with the aspect crests

halcyon breach
#

All timed keys give 12 crests of the tier of dungeon you do

#

Only 5 if you deplete the key

tender geyser
#

what does it mean to deplete the key?

worldly kernel
#

not timing it

halcyon breach
#

By not finishing the dungeon in time

tender geyser
#

thats almost impossible

halcyon breach
#

You'd be surprised

worldly kernel
#

also you're going to be very hardpressed to find a group to invite you to 16's with low ilvl and 0 IO

tender geyser
#

i only use my own keys

worldly kernel
#

especially as a warrior

tender geyser
#

this way i never have to worry

#

about applying

#

u just have to be very picky about others

#

to maximize ur chance of completing it

#

and upgrading it

halcyon breach
#

Pugs even if they seem good can always end up being very trash

tender geyser
#

so far i've only failed 1 key out of the last 20

#

meaning not complete on time

#

u need at least 2 battle res, 1 bloodlust, and at least 2 dps 470+ ilvl

halcyon breach
#

It rarely happens for me personally but it does happen

tender geyser
#

and u can never fail +15s

#

u gotta be picky

#

if u wanna succeed

worldly kernel
#

maybe at like a little higher key levels you can send pretty much any comp on a 15

tender geyser
#

yeah im gonna do +16s now for the aspect crests

#

so i can craft 486 and not bother upgrading

#

the best thing is my low ilvl doesnt matter

#

cuz i own the key

#

so i can be picky about others to be high ilvl

#

so they can compensate for my low ilvl

#

work smarter not harder

worldly kernel
#

I mean some people will leave if they see you're low IO and have no gear keep that in mind

tender geyser
#

is this female Illidan

astral yarrow
#

illidan is stormrage no?

halcyon breach
#

Female metamorphosised demon hunter must surely all be the female equivalent of Illidan

#

Can't be anything else

astral yarrow
#

muh lore

tender geyser
torn goblet
#

So I got my axe. Does CS and Avatar increase the damage of the special ability?

halcyon breach
#

No

#

Only your stat ratings do

torn goblet
#

Good to know

halcyon breach
#

Crit, Haste and Versatility to be precise

tranquil sundial
tender geyser
#

i gotta say getting to +16 so i can earn aspect's dreaming crests was piss easy

#

it took me weeks to reach 1800 rating in pvp just so i can earn the garbage drake crests

#

and apparently i'm in top 25% of pvp players in terms of rating

#

but +16 was so easy i could prob do it with my eyes closed

astral yarrow
#

you are the next coming of revvez no doubt

quaint otter
tender geyser
#

it kinda is

quaint otter
#

According to check pvp its like 70k chars in 1800 soloq

hazy flower
#

that cannot be right

#

70k sounds absurdly high

quaint otter
tender geyser
#

wait i should be doing +17s not +16s

#

that's the sweet spot

#

cuz u get hero track items

#

while +16 u get champ

quaint otter
#

18 is sweet spot

#

Cuz u get mythic track vault

tender geyser
#

yeah idk

#

idk if i can handle it

#

the stones one shot me

#

the rolling stone balls

quaint otter
#

What balls

tender geyser
#

in black rook hold

hazy flower
#

well

tender geyser
#

they roll down on the stairs

hazy flower
#

you're not meant to take them

quaint otter
#

Yeah u supposed to dodge it

hazy flower
#

and ilv is w.e

tender geyser
#

it's hard to dodge cuz they just keep coming

halcyon breach
hazy flower
#

ilv is such a bad measurement

halcyon breach
#

Unless you have some source of cheat death

tender geyser
#

i also only have 2 set

hazy flower
#

if people can do +32 with 486, then you can do +20 with 460

#

just try to go higher without worrying about it

tender geyser
#

ok

quaint otter
#

I did 18 as 441 ilvl affli

halcyon breach
#

It's not that difficult

quaint otter
#

Ez softboosted

hazy flower
#

isn't he pvp player tho

#

dodging should be natural

#

lol

quaint otter
#

Its not dark souls

#

A messy target pvp game

tender geyser
#

i just said its not easy

#

but im just so good that for me it's a child's game

#

ok so i gotta +18s what could go wrong

halcyon breach
#

It's a childs game but it's hard to dodge?

tender geyser
#

hard to dodge for others

#

but not for me

halcyon breach
#

Evidently it is because you just mentioned above they oneshto you

tender geyser
#

but they one shot everyone except tanks

astral yarrow
hazy flower
#

xd

halcyon breach
#

Yes, but you only figured out they oneshot you because you got hit by them

astral yarrow
#

hard coached by old guild main tank

#

it was a blast

#

"press sentinel here"

astral yarrow
#

"WHAT THE FUCK IS SENTINEL HELP ME"

hazy flower
#

I didnt know how bdk works

#

I was spamming DS to giga shield

#

I've been told and insulted by our rl that I dont know what I'm doing and that he cant watch this

#

and that I should just keep 3 runes on cd and have enough rp for 2 ds at any time

#

literally went from dying in 16's to tanking 21 as 430

quaint otter
#

I went to tank a 23 uldaman as freshly rolled brew clueless

quaint otter
#

True

proud plover
#

dont forget to pop vamp blood before any ams/amz to increase its shields

quaint otter
#

Hold bones

#

Stay in dnd

#

Profit

vagrant smelt
#

boys

#

swapping from fury to arms

#

any tips?

quasi torrent
#

press mortal strike

vagrant smelt
#

understood

olive nest
#

Who summoned me wokege

opal folio
dense nimbus
#

gents do bad seeds still expload on mythic fyrakk or that was nerfed as well?

halcyon breach
#

They still explode

quasi torrent
#

imagine if they didnt lol

#

they already cut the amount in half

sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
#

corrupteds yes

#

But

sacred zodiac
#

you can play 3 seeds with average dps

quasi torrent
#

The boss has less hp obviously

#

But the amount of seeds dropped is half

mortal crag
#

does bladestorm REMOVE the stun on wcm or do i need to pre-bladestorm?

daring heron
#

pre

mortal crag
#

ty babes xoxo

exotic kestrel
#

So u just guess its gonna go on you? or is there a method to the madness?

dapper shell
#

is it worth going arms on fyrakk? there are less parses but higher boss dps, less add cleave on warcraftlogs. is the higher boss dps just in execute or over the whole fight? (raidlead asked me if it’s worth)

sacred zodiac
#

i think its dealers choice rn

#

but the fight isnt really a throughput check anymore and fury will survive more bullshit

exotic kestrel
#

fury has a much easier time living

#

(altho i went arms, coz i couldent wait to get out of fury prison after tindral)

neon hedge
#

Is there a resource i can check which fight is better for each spec?

#

I prefer playing arms but it feels shit on some fights

teal fossil
#

usually you can just look at performance

exotic kestrel
#

i think the only fight where theres a very clear better one is Tindral

teal fossil
#

damage and boss damage are the two thing you can look out for

exotic kestrel
#

but thats just root pad

teal fossil
#

thats why you look at both

neon hedge
#

Aight

#

Thanks

rotund ferry
#

It's mostly that others will not accept u, since ppl doing 20's atm are the people that were afraid to do them with 450 or so ilvl, so they are definetly gear gating and demanding ppl be over 480 for a 20 lol

tender geyser
#

good that u tagged me

#

cuz i found an interesting video to share

#

what happens when u quit wow

halcyon breach
#

A week without Skyhold

tender geyser
#

That's taking it too far

reef glade
#

real

teal fossil
#

He quit for 2 months now

zealous rampart
reef glade
#

there’s like 5 of those people

thick walrus
#

I was 15% bodyfat while hardcore raiding in EQ

#

Like it's possible

#

But I was also killing myself

#

Because stims and no sleep with 14 hour workdays

dull siren
#

@teal fossil r u coming

#

for EU HC on wednesday

boreal quartz
#

Definitely eu

#

Definitely subbed

dense nimbus
teal fossil
#

definitely been playing the game since 10.1

#

ill play on ergas account

dull siren
#

ToS

covert jackal
#

+28 Atal timed, mage was getting my Pi's ):

fresh spire
#

Fuck mages

tardy crag
#

Did he at least do boss dam

latent moss
#

no

#

its a mage pug

#

they dont deal damage

#

they dont use defensives

#

they dont do anything

#

they press lust and thats it

teal fossil
#

i remember him from sexysire

#

he did like 30 sire runs a week

astral yarrow
#

thats rookie numbers

covert jackal
gaunt owl
#

why did the priest keep the pi on the mage ?

#

holy molly

hazy flower
thick walrus
#

"they're so bad why buff them"

livid cloak
#

I dont think I've played with a Mage this season that had more than 2 brain cells

#

No that's not true I had 1, but that was it

gaunt owl
#

if the mage isnt in a top3 guild he wont be impressive

glacial karma
wicked aurora
#

I’d make guesses but it would depend on the build he’s running

thick walrus
#

Yup

thick walrus
#

That's

latent moss
#

seismic

#

what

#

????

#

0 dps talent

thick walrus
#

Wat

latent moss
#

better get titanic throw

#

its more dps

teal fossil
#

another point in rage

#

titanic through

#

leap cdr

#

can he get shockwave

#

or no

thick walrus
#

That breakdown looks odd?

gaunt owl
#

not really

#

but yeah the seismic is the one talent you never want

thick walrus
#

NM single storm with bigger pulls

gaunt owl
#

at 28 thats what should happen

#

good strong pull so the dots pull ahead

covert jackal
teal fossil
#

i think we are bullying him too hard for seismic

#

its whatever

gaunt owl
#

it clearly wouldnt change anything thats for sure

finite mantle
#

take seismic off or I’m traveling to where ur at

glacial karma
#

okok soooo why is seismic so bad? Seems like at first glance free damage in AoE?

thick walrus
#

It's just

hexed saddle
#

30% of 1 ww tick

#

is a very small number

thick walrus
#

How often are you pressing ww

#

Vs - utility

#

Like hell for incorp weeks you could take shattering throw keks

untold trench
#

critcake no

glacial karma
#

looking at this log specifically, looks like it's more damage than sidearm so why keep that one? Seismic rough did 8mil dmg

gaunt owl
#

the tooltip for seismic is baiting

latent moss
#

giga baiting

gaunt owl
#

you take the full dmg of WW

#

divid it by 3

#

then use that 33% on that 1/3

latent moss
#

ye its only one of the swings keks

glacial karma
#

ohhhhhhhhhh - I see I see. not a true 1/3 more like 1/9

hexed saddle
#

correct

hexed saddle
#

its quite bad

#

think its marginally better for arms

#

but for fury its like

#

0.1%

#

maybe less

untold trench
#

Just gotta pull bigger, and it will be more value for Fury than 0.1%

latent moss
#

overwhelming rage is a lot more