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well yea but i would assume with the omega nerfs boss dies way earlier
i feel like im so bad at beloren and crown because i didnt pull those bosses 300 times
yea maybe then
my dmg just feels like shit
idk crown is kinda easy you just need to giga time cds in p1 thats basically all you have to do super well
rest is just normal gameplay for the most part aside from optimal positioning
also bank on some huge crits when p1 bosses are low
does mortal strike crit or not
ok minus 700k damage for fun
ik who khachuzz is
happy birthday chudish @sullen dove
o7
how did the person on the right do so much less damage than the person on the left? Right side has better gear. (Heroic Chimmy)
Someone padded on adds optimally and someone else didn’t would be my guess
idk half as much odyns fury damage assumes yea the left one was padding on adds alot more
Also small talent adjustments like no enraged regen to get more damage 🤷🏻♂️
Should raging blow be used that much in comparison to thunderclap? That seems to be a big difference as well
mark of light trinket on the left guy is terrible though
tc vs rb in single target not really sure
both kinda mid but wowhead should have the correct answer if rly want to find out, though its probably a small optimization anyway
That’s the point OP is making too lol worse gear on left vs right and right side did more overall
Undreamt on right and 44 raging blows on left, they both are trolling
yellow toxic...
the gospel must be spread...
All my homies hate raid
But yeah its uptime aoeing adds on chim, the worse the raid is, the more damage you do
Could also be first vs second soak
@sullen dove hbd
swordish is now old enough to vote
unc
any tips on mythic vanguard as fury?
Don't die
use lorrgs for cd timings
@compact knot idk if you ever got around to simming it but here's the TBC stone stuff (using simc profile, which doesn't have 298 gear or vantus)
i wonder if this says more about stones just being weak than about tbc stone being close to current stone
I didn't check vs midnight stone but IIRC it's between midnight oil and tbc stone
but yes I think stones in general just kinda weak
Theoretically they comparatively better as the expansion goes on because we'll be going into secondary stat DRs but not substantially so I wouldn't think
Guys should I prio execute when execute phase ?
yes
What specc do you guys run in 17-18 keys? I know they are more or less the same, feels like my overall can diff alot in same dungeon same specc in pugs..
All 4 of our specs are super playable rn even in high keys, I would genuinely just play whatever you like the most or whatever feels best.
Certain specs are gonna be stronger in certain dungeons sure. But all 4 are pretty good rn.
Which hero tree
is mid1 just oil
Slayer
yea
think they get worse as the expansion goes on but idk
AP probably scales worse then secondaries do as the expansion progresses
archim gave me a explanation in the arms channel and i got a lot smarter so that was nice
also helped me figure out why surv actually used the stone in their mainhand while fury does not use it at all (it comes down to the base attack speed of the weapon, the stone is better the faster the weapon attacks)
and surv is using daggers
which does make me think it could be better for the rogue specs that use daggers
Surv using daggers reminds me of in tbc when hunters were hard stuck using the ZA daggers
As a stat stick
these numbers dont make much sense to me when i look at a stat weights but
the arms one seems right but the fury one seems wildly wrong
(it wont change anything, the stone is still worse for fury)
think its more so the stone is just weird
the oh shouldnt be close to the mainhand at all, should easily be like 120+ dps below the mainhand
do we need more mastery in raid in fury?
like more mastery than haste and try to use pot recklessness to burst with a bunch of mastery
cause in mm+ i see a lot of war play haste more than mastery not sure in raid mm
how to deal with the bird grip in PIT dungeon as fury? how can I free myself?
Play slayer or beg someone to free you
Doea anybody else feel like Thane's rotation is noticeably slower than Slayer? I mean, slayer has more procs and feels like a lot more action per minute. I used to run Thane earlier in the season and now can't adjust back to it. Might as well stick to Slayer
be gnome
Thanks
can meld it too
comparing to others is a good thing?
cause im most likely doing same dmg comparing to team in keys
Slayer has a +haste buff (8%?) after BS but other than that they should be roughly the same assuming haste levels are the same
Were you getting a PI from a friendly priest more often as slayer maybe?
Thane is GCD capped and loves haste so not sure where the difference would be other than the BS buff
Thane is nice. Spire+17 timed
Thane and slayer are honestly better than I expected them to leave them at for s1
Typically fury is cheeks in s1
I hope they continue to actually tune warr full xpac for once
(Primarily m+ angle, slight correction.)
is there any button I don’t know about to escape the fucking bat on pit grabbing you? cause on a +19 even using wrecking trow to try breaking his shield doesn t do that much dmg
You can only escape it as slayer with either charge or bladestorm
Escape Artist ftw!
I really don't know. I rarely get grouped with priests. More often than not I feel like I have use RB as filler on Thane, compared to Slayer.
Play gnome
Can meld it if you’re night elf too
I m thane dwarf 🙁
Cd + wrecking throw the shield and kick it
And buff ele shammy
guys as a fresh fury warrior should i spend the re rolls on m+ 10 dungeons for the mythical gear, or should i save it for the best trinket
I think M+
Maybe save 2 if you manage to get good gear to pug mythic Chim and first two in spire
ok, thanks laazy. maybe i will get a little lucky, who knows hehe
Holds sword up to the moon Wallahi
guys, how much dps should an aug have at the end of a 10-13
with the fucked dps meters
look at warcraftlogs
some do like 26k ST and looking at my dam, they dont add that much either
the ingame one doesnt matter
but idk how its counted
The high stat chest, helm, legs are more value than the trinket upgrade. Find a dungeon that gets you all the high stat priority gear and go all in on it so you can catalyse.
im not logging dungeons, thought maybe you have some numbers based on good augs you know :3
the bar would just be lower but still comparable no?
i have 0 fucking clue how aug works tho tbf
In game bars doesnt calculate their dps correctly hence the other person saying to log it
Logs is the only thing that shows augs damage
Put of saron has a 2 hand weapon, chest, helm, shoulders, belt and a good neck.
Augs cna look like they're doing 20k on a boss but they might actually be doing more or same as you and or the other fps on logs
Augs the fun spec where yoy think you and the other fps is doing good or better then check logs to see they do the same if not more
Does anyone know what: "Increased critical damage" means?
If an execute deals 100 damage and crit for 200, then 10% increased critical damage is 210 or 220?
So we discover that by hand testing?
😢
i remember one time i was comparing how bote from bfa and spear of bastion compared to each other and the numbers didnt really make sense
When they will fix the cdm bugs? Im tired of enrage fading out of nowhere and the delay of the whirlwind tracker after rampage cast
woudlnt hope for a rampage ww bugfix
Well the fading rampage ww stack can be used by the next ability
that ones there since last expac and i assume its tied to the bugfix they made last expac to where a parried rampage still consumed ww charges
So kinda accurate
Could someone please give me a tip on how to check both buffs (enrage and whirlwind) without any chance of error? These bugs really make me cast at the wrong time and lose damage. Maybe some addon combination ...
Its just awful to know how to play but the cdm leads me to the wrong spell
cdm is not having trouble displaying your ww stack count it is literally the game subtracting ww at the wrong time
the only counter to it is counting down from 4 in your head
At same time Arms can just chill cause they only have sweeping strikes and works just fine...
would you believe it
after thane buffs on an alghetar 20 you would run thane or slay
sweeping strikes cdm tracking is also very bugged
I just miss my luxthos weak auras
thank god they got rid off weakauras <3
The enrage bar of weak auras was functional. Not this cdm track that vanishes every single pull
the sound cue when sweeping buff ends bugs a lot aswell, 4 in 10 times it wont sound for me
that shit is the most annoying thing ever
I wanted to make one that plays when of is off cd
Sound cue itself is bugged af
Plus: shield block also vanishes out of blue
Sounds well for SD procs but does not work for abilities being readx
cough cough i said so when they said they are getting rid of weakauras cough cough
In other hand when i play monk nothing important vanishes or bugs. So i have a much better time in some classes than others
Thats unfair af
i think the sound cue for abilities being ready only comes when the gcd is over
so if odyn's fury is ready you will get the of sound cue once the next gcd ends after its cd ended
if you know what i mean
It sometimes comes after the icon already showed and the next ability was used
Sometimes after sd consume
okay weird
you know the last 20s I need for resil. seat and wind. I can’t get into a single one and haven’t been able to. anyone else hit a wall there lmao
shits miserable
I hit a massive wall at 21 AA and Seat but got them this week thankfully
Ok buddy let’s see you count to 4
Question I am looking to play Warrior as a potential alt how is arms and fury looking for mainly m+ play
what keylevel are we talking?
arms is one of the best dps in m+ but requires the tank to know how to play with an arms warrior
which you probably wont get in anything below a 20
it's still good otherwise but a little clunky and it can be frustrating to play with mid tanks
fury is kind of whatever, not bad but also doesnt stand out
both specs are also among the tankiest dps specs in the game, you can generally survive a lot of mistakes even in higher keys as a dps warrior
Mainly 10-15s
You can clear those with any hero
Mess around with each spec and play the one you enjoy the most
10-15s= just play fury and send it
(or slayer arms)
Shit's not gonna live long enough to sling a lot of demolishes
tbh with the thunderblast buff I don't even feel like putting slayer on to fill in vault slots anymore
unless playing with ultra carries who need me to solo the bosses
The difference in boss dps is very overstated
It's like <5%
What matters a lot more is how quickly slayer gets its burst out (good for low key levels) and prio dam vs sustained aoe
What makes warrior so tanky ? HP ?
Passive DR, low-cd defensives, defensive stance + stance mastery, self healing
and yes, generally high baseline HP, but that's multiplicative with the other things
I see
I can say will be EASIER to achieve the same results with fury, you'll just need much more effort with arms (tank help and a shaman in group). And thats a bit sad in terms of "balance"
I mean arms does more dam with that extra help too, so it is pretty balanced
love the logo of this mdi team
yea ngl Dstance has to be the most busted def out there, and with stance mastery its even better
ig its not ams
but still
ams is better than def stance against magic damage, but its cooldown is a lot longer and it doesnt work against non-magic damage
I mean, we have spell reflect on a sim cd at that point too
ams and reflect arent comparable, ams is so much better
Oh no denying that
ams is essentially divine shield on a 40s cd for many many mechanics
But we still also have spell dr in addition to dstance
yeah
At how many targets is it worth sending Whirlwind over rampage or bloodbath/ bloodthirst?
First pull of AA is humbling when G Druid bursts more than Slurry
What'll be more humbling is your tank dying while you pad on smallies instead of killing the bleed adds
for m+ whats an overall better talent
the field dressing or leech strikes ? the 3% increased healing and 10% selfhealing or 3% leech?
leech
10% DR from War Paint, 10% inc stamina from Reinforced Plates, a 2nd two-hander that gives you more life and thane's talent that gives another 5% stamina AND 10% more life when you IV
Dumb question but what is IV? Intervene?
Impending Victory
Oh right ty lol I always think of that one as victory rush
how do ppl pre stack bladestorm before a key? dummy toy?
Yes
40+ typically. follow what your sims say in terms of upgrades more than just numbers
Not a specific % no, you can sim your character to see what's best for you with the specific gear you have available to you
I see, thanks. playing around w all the crafted stuff trying to balance out the presets that the Class Codex addon suggests
but wanted to check
You generally won't be too far off if you just blindly mastery>haste>crit>vers, but for the most accurate results you should always sim your own character
shh
like so... struggling to hit all blue bars lol
helpful, thanks!
So I have a 287 fury warrior and for the life of me idk why my damage is so low ST
Could anyone coach up on what I’m doing wrong
Thanks
Is Slayer best for Fury in keys?
Slayer and thane are very very close to each other, play whichever you prefer
Raid too?
I'd play thane on dragons and paladins but other than that yes
raid is a bit more situational depending on fight but overall do whatever you want
You can reasonably justify either spec for every fight
I probably wouldn't play thane on chimaerus unless your group just hard ignores the downstairs adds
but if you want to play thane it's only like 3-4% worse single target
It was very uncool of you to take my r1 vorasius boss dam from me
just like smorbsmish stole my r1 volcoross heroic in week 2 of amirdrassil
that was so last week
Playing thane in m+ I find i do fairly competitive overall but I cant keep up with the feral or elemental shaman I play with regularly when they pop all cds even when I pop mine. Not sure if thats just their cds are better or if I need more practice?
and no shot we are caught up on a heroic parse from 2 expansions ago
Owned
it was gonna be my first r1 man I was so pumped
and then this chud swoops in out of nowhere and yoinks it
wish we had a pure ST boss
I will never forgive
game is bad
lost my R1 to gajeel on crown becuase i had to get off the boss to kill the Dimi add set in p3
madge
boss damage parses are cute
I just cba trying to bribe my fellow raiders to ignore adds so I can eat all the pad dam
adds die in actually 1 gcd otherwise
My warrior consistently parses in the top 20,000 of fury warriors on all bosses. Im a pretty big deal.
the dream of being in a guild where people dont know how to do add damage. those were the days
i have to fight add add exploder 5000 classes who have actual cooldowns to try to prase overall damage
fuck that
Me when dragons orbs spawn and immediately two collapsing stars come down and kill them before I can press TB
My guild ran 5 ddh and 3 blood dks for dragons.... I never even bothered looking at them i just accept my trash parse and move on
yeah parsing on dragons with blood dk + dev dh is a nightmare
when every set of crystals on Lura die before my bladestorm finishes casting
well that just cannot be. the first set maybe
surv hunters fucking stupid strong
My guild does play a surv hunter also but compared to 5 pre casting ddhs nothing else really does anything. Then again im talking dragons my guild is still pulling beloren so ill get to hate on lura later.
Me sweatmaxxing my cd timings vs our DH pressing eye beam and doing 900k
yeah then i dont get a monk on my side of the split and none of it matters
P3 can blow up
i mean its becuase we have so much melee they split it like that
pure physical dps on the side without monk
both me and the other hunter get boned in that regard
well 1 hunter is doomed regardless if you have 2 and only 1 monk
Feel like a second monk is the real answer more than fixing the rest
boss dead doomed by fate cba
consider joining a guild that doesnt need a dps warrior so u can just not play the game when it sucks dogshit
or even better when dps warrior is gigga bis and you still dont play
i wana play warrior even when its bad
brain damage
definitely a freak
i played during ansurek
so its your fault we got nuked
lowest boss damage in the raid actually had a job
but sense did briefly swap to fury on broodtwister
get turbo nuked 4 times in a row
worthless spec
entire expansion cycle later still suffering from ansurek
Warrior kinda nice on lura tho no?
damn you must have been exhausted this tier. so much gaming
Im only doing heroic but I like the boss. Basically 100% uptime. No mechanics make you leave the boss really
Same, built diff
i said during ansurek
didnt say anything about silken court
oh specifically one boss, my bad
back to shitlo with Xan
Let's all be friends 🧡
true
do it right
xans just old and washed
low pash
Im not raiding mythic anymore but got 98% on bird this week
Makes me sad that 3 other specs parse lower but dps higher. But what can you do
the gold ol days
Havnt played marvels in probably a year. Or close to it.
streamsniping gromnak in pirate gamemode
we've been on a stint
why are u still playing gooner game
i like playing games with my friends
does the game have to be gooner
I tried overwatch again a month or two ago and it feels pretty good now
speaking of which vil for brown
@dapper goblet for green
^
SHUT UP PIGS
🐷
anyone know how I can change my sim to upgrade the weapon to 285?
I only see the option for 272
light's potential vs. potion of recklessness?
Haste is highest stat and vers is my lowest.
lights potential
max it out THEN the option should show
also make sure you have voidcores in your list in the top section
You only use reck if mastery is top iirc otherwise main stat pot
why do tanks still run away from the shadowguards in seat? is that just a fun thing or? XD
Ask in prot
I'm gonna guess hit rating has changes somewhat since I played TBC 20 years ago
should i just reach 9% and stop. or is the more the better
Pretty sure that was our soft cap back then, afterwards it only affected OH?
i think so...of what you remember, I should stop at 9% and increase crit and attributes after that
?
more or less, more OH hits is more rage so it's not a total loss
and that cap was something like 17% iirc
got it. thank you
but if that heroic strike bug is still around it's a completely dead stat
which google tells me it is
pulled a 83 on my first alleria mythic kill I'LL TAKE THAT
i made so many fucking mistakes and had so much downtime its insane
purple is purple, apparently not that many
every fucking paladins kill i die at 3/4 of the fight to the hammers or random bullshit
fucking despise that boss
ye i hate that boss too
i played arms and our kill pull, we fcked up the dispell so only 1 boss got the colossus smash debuff 
crown might just be one of the worst fights ever tbh
That’s the only fight I can’t parse and it’s because they took blobs off the parse
I got lucky as hell right before he died they spawned and I just went to pad rq
its even easier to parse now that the blobs are gone
Who remembers the good old days
unironically cant wait for bfa classic
Trying to catch up. I'm sure my avg goes down if I get the later bosses down
Guild hasn’t had me on vorasis since 12.0 I need a shot at him again
we (my guild) only just killed vaelgor this week
Big time!
@slim coral dumb
@slim coral is fantastic, just needs to work on offensive cooldowns, defensives, positioning, rage management, inverse gravity spread, healthstone flicks, dark energy spots, dragonriding, add damage, reverse gravity positions, rally ability, leap aim, shadowquake control and getting dimensius kills
Worst fight since slyvie provs
ragebait
whats a dungeon overall or a sim like with and without skyfury? 5%?
does anyone else have their enrage bar/buff from the CDM disappear randomly even when there's like 3s left
ye i noticed that yesterday
Go do a 5min sim with and without Skyfury
Chim exists
I remember when I posted that in grom's chat
good times
not playing warrior was just wondering
whenever i take one i try to shaman
dont forget targetting the boss
using the details dmg meter addon is there a plugin that shows your crit percentage for abilities?
ok ty
Chim is annoying
Just from one time i can tell id rather jump into 30s then touch that garbage
I think the worst for me is vorasius, below fractilus
Vora isn't bad for me
But alleria just makes me wonna die evrey time I even look at footage
I can't even imagine how infuriating it is as melee for mythic
its probably awful when you are progging
ive killed it twice now and got 0 mechanics
so it wasnt actually bad
i like the design of the boss in general, its pretty fun
just super shit for melee so w/e
chim is worst boss ever made
Is there any addon recommendation for enrage buff bar? Sometimes, It seems can't refresh it with BT
are you tracking enrage in the cdm
also rampaging refreshes enrage
so dont know why you would want to rely on bt
or am i missing something
Enrage buff tracking is very buggy rn
@smoky vale why in reforged but not raiding with reforged
i had class during mondays of prog
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Berserker Stance
one for arms one for fury
is mt better overall now?
How close is thane to col arms in keys?
Is there a way to macro blood thirst and raging blow together so when blood thirst isn’t up it will RB to save a keybind?
with the right groupe and coordination colo arms is better
but thane is easier to plug and play doesnt require windfury doesnt require specific funnel pulls
I know he's not human and trying to emulate him is futile, but it seems Noxiv putting up top tier parses in M+ as slayer?
Yeah I tried slayer out but I'm too slow I guess lol
Doing much better with thane
Yeah I learned a long time ago that doing something because Noxic made it work is foolish
Did he not swap back to thane ?
he switched back to thane
All his 100 parses look to be slayer or most of them anyway
I'm not making any arguments, I dunno shit, just syaing it seems Slayer works fine
the reason for that is because he hasnt timed any keys since he switched to thane, pretty sure he is mostly only attempting IO keys instead of shit he has already done
oh yeah no slayer is still very good
nobody said it was bad
thane is just better now so he is playing thane
Word. More than anything I'm just curious, I've never played Slayer. Might be a good season to check it out it seems.
Whoa the wowhead thane build isn't taking a personal??
its for dmg purely
i mean if you arent pushing 0.1% keys you can play either and they both work very well, id argue you actually even player slayer for the better boss damage in low keys. Assuming you arent pushing 0.1% keys you can go test out slayer
yeah fury is one of the only specs in the game that has to drop dps to pick up a defensive
you dont really need it anyways
i find slayer to be better still, but that might just be personal preference
I dont get invited to 21s 
lol
you know i thought the same
then i did a +21 as colossus and sustained 400k dps on every pull
nvm
im not in the arms channel
IGNORE
old man speaks to sun
Propaganda and lies spread by arms Fury lapers
Aight, I am bringing out the holy water
which is insane
and lets be honest arms Col to shine needs so much hand holding that in any pug key
u prob better playing slayer ( just dont tell ppl )
Not needed to be honest. At least in 16-17s. Good use of spell reflect helps a lot and make impending victory part of your rotation, kinda, to help out your healer and you're good
BT has 45% chance (I think?) to enrage you. And you pretty much press rampage every other glaba anyways, so you should pretty much be enraged like 99% of the time
heck cant u just Dstance as well that things huge
dstance is so good
well it was more instead of taking the other defensive
Dstance is always there when u need it
using it on all unavoidable dmg incomming rly makes a key go a lot smoother for healer and other dps
Dstance so i live the knock back smash in AA 
Dstance urself
Hey guys - anyone charitable enough to help me analyse logs - getting to the 5th Mythic boss and at 287 item level I don't blast more than 85k DPS - I see fury warrior logs at like 150k so I think there is a lot of space to improve? I am a bit lost WoW Analyzer hasn't been updated - So I am kinda looking at how I can improve and not drag the raid down :p
Comparing logs I guess?
Most of the problems are either wrong prio(read wowhead prio and understand it), downtime due to ineffective movement or due to wrong cooldown management
Probably wrong talents for each boss as well?
Oki - in terms of placement and staying on the boss I think I am OK - but maybe I fail at keeping CDs for special parts of the fight. Will check.
By 5th boss do you mean Paladins?
I think he means dragons
Do you have a good way to actually get reflects in? It almost always gets interrupted even with a macro saying SR is up
tbh it's not like people are looking at the target of the bolt and say: "Ah, it's the warrior, let's let him reflect it"
Nope, even if i say it in voice, it will get ignored
Long as pyro, surge, whatever cast
You mean among friends?
They will find a way
Yup
"i have to concentrate on tanking, i cant look at each casts target"
I literary shouted in the mic: "DON"T INTRERRUPT" durint PoS' second boss for the people to not intrerrupt
2nd boss is crazy
one cast
you reflect you do massive dmg
Its sucha huge dps loss
frustrating
nah
doubt it
I think its 250-350k dmg per successfull SR
If you get 20 in per dungeon you do 5-7m more dmg
its crazy
Especially funny if the the cast duration is like 10 seconds
I am saddened to announce you that reflecting Dengentrius balls works, but don't do damage
Ye ik


