fury

[grand vale]

rampage

we already did prio tb with 2 stacks in mt

but not in st

but will the dps buff shift the prio in st

30% is quite substantial

[lyric panther]

I doubt it

this is currently ST in some delve build I logged out in, rampage still way over TB and you're not proccing new TBs by pressing rampage so no chance to overcap

and thats half lightning strike so even less of a buff to that number

[grand vale]

the no new tbs makes sense ty

if you can't overcap by waiting a gcd then it's not really an issue

what turns tc into tb, bloodbath/bloodthirst?

[lyric panther]

reckless abandon talent

[grand vale]

no, that is the one that turns bt into bb

this is the reset one

[lyric panther]

oh sorry I misread

[grand vale]

so rampage is safe to use for not overcapping tb stacks

[lyric panther]

yeah you get two stacks on avatar and you get a chance on BT/BB cast

[grand vale]

looking at this, you will deal about the same dmg on a tb as you do on a rampage

a little more on a tb

if you look at dmg per cast

[lyric panther]

remember rampage has 4 hits

per cast

[grand vale]

it counts each hit seperately?

in logs

[lyric panther]

expanded from my previous sim

[grand vale]

okay good to know

[lyric panther]

so Thunderblast > Thunderblast at 2,048,971 is the only buff here

[grand vale]

wait a second

is the 104 104 times you pressed rampage or 104 hits of rampage?

[lyric panther]

104 hits, 26 presses

[grand vale]

okay

[lyric panther]

actaully I dont know

no sorry its 104 casts

[grand vale]

they buff the tb dmg for 2084 right?

not the lightning strike part

[lyric panther]

yeah

LS is grouped with the ability that procced it in raidbots

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j6ExiKNPQGov7UPoKXZ1hF if you wanna look

[grand vale]

okay so in your log, tb has 42k dps per cast, rampage has 74k dps per cast

tb with buff will go up to 55k dps per cast

not enough to warrant tb over rampage in st

unless you dont overcap rage with tb

[gilded belfry]

Thane is better than slayer in m+ and they buff it ?

[lyric panther]

no you're right I need a coffee just got up 😄

no it is damage per 300 seconds right. so rampage is 25.7k DPS and thunderblast is 6.8k dps

"dps per cast" was confusing me

[grand vale]

well people were playing slayer in top logs

[lyric panther]

in full report the first column is dps, so 25,767 for rampage, 6829 for thunder blast, 6490 dps for lightning strikes procced by thunderblast

so post buff TB doing 8,877 dps on ST in that sim, so rampage still doing 3x per cast before you consider risk of rage overcapping too

[grand vale]

ty

so no changes except more deeps

🙂

[indigo arch]

Be happy they remember the class at all at this point tbh.

I wish they were tuning even this much positively during tww s1

[dusky cipher]

Can someone help me understand why thunderblast is even useful as on the tooltip it does less damage than thunderclap?

[indigo arch]

hero talents

[burnt oxide]

It triggers stuff

[dusky cipher]

yeah just been reading it thanks

[soft mantle]

Slayer is so much fun in high key and I don't think this buff is gonna make me swap to thane tbh. Prio dmg and st is very usefull even tho we will be a bit behind thane

In aoe

[dense elbow]

Also the power of burst to soften things up faster

Slayer is just useful

Can handle the root-break mechanics better, too. So while Thane prob got the edge in some dungs, Slayer is up there and 100% viable.

Maybe at the 0.0001% level, the ultimate push key at the final days of the patch. Then Thane or Slayer might be a question to ask. Yet, as is: Just play what you prefer. Both do great

[grand vale]

all things aside, if we don't compare that with other classes, fury tuning is really good in itself if both specs are at the point where it's play what you prefer

that's how it should be tbh

[sonic finch]

This

[charred flint]

Is thane buff live now or only after reset

[pseudo coyote]

will thane be much better than slayer in keys after buff, or will slayer still be hella viable?

[burnt oxide]

How can a 3.5% multitarget buff make the specc much better

[pseudo coyote]

havent rly checked numbers, i just rly pref slayer in keys

[signal falcon]

I think Slayer would still have a niche in better ST/prio

Bladestorm giving you some burst is also an edge

[half latch]

Hey,
I have a question concerning Thane Fury rotation in 3+ target, should I always prio fishing thunder blast procs and often overcap rage and thus not use rampage in order to use bloodbath for procs or rampage always have higher prio ?
It feels bad to look for TB procs when at max rage but tank puuls a pack of 10 mobs xD

[junior oyster]

The priority laid out on wowhead answers this

[charred estuary]

It was BT at 5 or less targets

But I wonder with the buff if that number jumps up to like 6-8

[dim spindle]

reset according to the blue post

[alpine kiln]

All other gear is done, they sim within 40 DPS of eachother after re-gemming/recrafting.

I'm leaving this to a vote.

Which weapon are you picking?

(I have pit weapon for arms)

[charred flint]

whirling

[undone flower]

/rand

[dusky cipher]

Whirling Coidcleaver

Or get both

[worthy stirrup]

as a warrior is any spell than can save me from gargoyle on pit or skyreach? only dps mechanic?

[burnt oxide]

Charge as slayer for the gargoyle

[alpine kiln]

Wrecking throw :p

[glacial flicker]

for gargoyle on pit u can shadowmeld if ur a nelf

for skyreach last boss u just zugzug

[solemn trench]

Omg thane is back

30% damage up

[honest trail]

What does the "-" parse mean btw?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PmfHngNwhyzpF1RX?fight=14&type=damage-done

Not yet calculated?

[warm crag]

where do you see a - in what you linked

[honest trail]

Weird

[warm crag]

you must have some weird filter applied

[modest condor]

showing numbers for me too

[warm crag]

also what happened for people to randomly start caring abt key logs this season

useless metric unless ur actually looking at the logs which i doubt anyone does

[alpine kiln]

"That's my parse, I don't know you!!!"

[solemn trench]

Thane 3% in single 5% aoe up

Better slayer in all

[honest trail]

Compararing some of my own cause trying to practice better key performances to join my friends in higher keys

[solemn trench]

Idk

[honest trail]

I was being a bit low dmg wise

[warm crag]

where'd you get these numbers from they're vaguely twice as high as the numbers archi posted

[alpine kiln]

Vibe simming

[modest condor]

asked chatgpt

[terse ether]

When's new patch?

[tranquil field]

https://tenor.com/view/bobby-hill-king-of-the-hill-animated-cartoon-self-defense-gif-8729511940694784719

[storm meadow]

Ahoy !
I see that top players are using Slayer more & more rather than Thane in M+... Any reasons for that ?

[alpine kiln]

Not for long

[glacial flicker]

prolly cus other 2 dpses have better aoe damage profiles so they cover this with better prio/boss damage as slayer

[rotund ginkgo]

do we know the fury numbers for thane buff?

[rotund ginkgo]

"top players" and its 3 people

[sudden tusk]

2% st 3.5ish aoe

P good

[rotund ginkgo]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hmm-thinking-119

[burnt oxide]

Not quite

[rotund ginkgo]

?

is that murlok.io?

top 50 warriors is like

top 50 furies* is like

theres only 7 warrs above 4k

rank 50 is 3850

[burnt oxide]

That is still top for fury

But i guess you wanted to emphasize fury in comparisson to all

[stoic loom]

Difference between slayer and thane is so small idk why people are making such a fuss

[burnt oxide]

Because they are warriors

It is in their blood

[honest trail]

Handling cooldowns is easier as Thane so better for pug feels like

Also tankier

Slayer prob better in team

[olive wraith]

What would make slayer better in a team

[alpine kiln]

Power of friendship?

[somber eagle]

stronger ST with AOE classes

and ability to skip mechs

[honest trail]

Planning around BS cd better, less aoe on Slayer, more prio, so not stealing funnel

Stuff like that

Always having the right number of targets

[olive wraith]

Highly doubt you plan around slayer cds

[somber eagle]

yep you dont its really RNG

to plan anything

[olive wraith]

They’re not that strong

[somber eagle]

also depends on dungs, on windrunner you want to run mt, bc of constant pulls

[honest trail]

Well the real answer is probably very comp/players/key dependent yes

Like very little reason to play Thane in SR

[loud zinc]

really hard to plan around variable cds. the pros of slayer aren’t rly it being predictable dmg. it’s that it just pumps better st which is key dependent

[steel shard]

respondre

🐲

[loud zinc]

you take slayer in sr bc you need to prio down certain adds and spend a lot of time on bosses

[honest trail]

I'm definitley more of a Slayer player but never felt like I did much more boss/prio dmg than Thane

[loud zinc]

you absolutely do. you can just sim it too

it’s like a 6 or 7k difference

[tulip bolt]

so like in raids, since ads are dying too fast is it better to take slayer now even on ad cleave fights?

[honest trail]

It's very hard to compare in practice because of pugging

Every key is too different

[modest condor]

both hero specs cooldowns are low enough that "playing around them" isnt really a thing because in high keys you'll get like 2-3 uses on every pull anyway

[honest trail]

I always feel like not having BS to open a new pack is just a no dmg for slayer

[modest condor]

slayer just has more boss damage, that's why people play it

i mean obviously if you dont have your biggest burst ability in the first 5 seconds of a pull it's gonna look worse on the meters, but in the end what matters is that the enemy dies and if you press bs at 3 seconds or at 20 seconds it's gonna do the same damage

[heavy galleon]

Slayer is fuuuuuuuuniest than this fucking thane but Blizzard wants fury play thane

[hoary rapids]

striking with lightnings is funnier

[honest trail]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/awbhNWt6px4zDGFZ?fight=15&type=damage-done&targetclass=Boss Yet

[olive wraith]

Oh no we swapped hero trees for a season

[heavy galleon]

hero talent is bad idea

[signal falcon]

At least both are comparably strong this season

Most specs it’s not even a consideration

[modest condor]

a dungeon with a 2 target boss and a burst phase boss, ok

look at the only singletarget boss in the dungeon

[olive wraith]

Stop with the context

[honest trail]

It's just the case in most keys

I'm not saying you're wrong

Just mostly saw fury being last in boss dmg

Even as Slayer

Everytime I checked

[olive wraith]

Okay?

[honest trail]

But I know it sims higher

[olive wraith]

How does that change the statement “slayer has more boss damage”

[modest condor]

i can also do this https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8vy6A4M3aPhVDc9k?fight=60&type=damage-done&targetclass=Boss

[honest trail]

Yes thanks

[modest condor]

and like kalaiath said, none of this has anything to do with slayer having more boss damage than thane anyway

[honest trail]

That's the spell reflect boss tho

No?

7.4m from it

Kinda crazy

[modest condor]

ok let's take out the spell reflect boss https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8vy6A4M3aPhVDc9k?fight=60&type=damage-done&targetclass=Boss&start=15714142&end=16918943

i think 3rd boss seat has more reflect damage

[honest trail]

I never checked the reflect things

Kinda crazy to try in pug xD

[modest condor]

yeah i wouldnt try it in a pug below like a 20 or something

[honest trail]

am on 19's atm

[modest condor]

and even then make very sure they're aware of the reflect before you start

[honest trail]

Pushed my 18 like 10 times in 2 days to 19, broke then down all in 5min everytime

lmao

[modest condor]

most tanks probably arent used to playing with a dps warrior who is taunt reflecting

one time in nokhud i said before the dungeon that i wanted to taunt reflect on 2nd boss, when we were about to pull 2nd boss i asked if they were ok with me taunt reflecting and they said yes

so i taunted and died to melee because they didnt taunt back after the reflect

[honest trail]

xd

[modest condor]

[honest trail]

I kinda wanna keep slayering only but I get flamed a lot for my dmg xD

[fading sky]

Not a class issue then🤣

[honest trail]

So mean

[alpine kiln]

Let fly

[honest trail]

been doing lots Thane vs Slayer comparison

Ppl don't care if I end up 200k overall at the end as Thane

But they're mad if they see a rogue be 600k on 1st pul l& I'm like 300

xd

[fading sky]

I mean then they dumb

And. U ignore em tbh

[tender seal]

Where did you mostly see this ? I rarely loose bossdmg when doing 20-21s as Slayer fury

[marble pilot]

Yeah you dont bring the warrior for the first pull hero burst dps. We are there for the consistent dps when everyone else is on cd. Doesnt matter the pull we bring the same numbers.

[honest trail]

I know

[marble pilot]

Yeah just agreeing with Thegokke. If they are flaming for first pull then they dumb. Nothing you can do about that. Thane vs slayer doesnt fix it

[honest trail]

Thane can do lots more overall by spamming Clap even if it's not optimal

Ppl happy about that x)

[marble pilot]

Yeah but you still are not catching the 600k+ people. Some classes can hit 1m cant they

[honest trail]

y

DK, WL, etc

Subs go crazy sometimes too

[tender seal]

I should do some thane keys again - just to test it a bit

[alpine kiln]

Thane always has consistent aoe, but slayer bursts higher, but is more RNG

But if this is your concern, play colossus arms

[modest condor]

no that's not true at all

[honest trail]

Would you say I'd rather play Thane or Slayer by teaming up with a Sub rogue & Ret Pal?

[modest condor]

slayer is the consistent aoe and thane has the burst

aside from bladestorm slayer gets very little from cooldowns

[honest trail]

Hate colossus

[marble pilot]

Thane is less thinking for me which is good. Lets me focus on the rest of the stuff

[modest condor]

while thane gets giga juiced thunderclaps

[marble pilot]

Not that im doing high enough keys for it to matter. I think the furthest ive gone so far is 14. Though it didnt feel very hard yet. I debate pushing more but I dont actually have a ton of play time. I probably only run 6-10 keys a week total

Across all toons

[olive wraith]

Clap is pretty high prio above 6 targets. So wouldn’t it be optimal

[honest trail]

Like situations in MT on the Voidcallers

Perma aoeing when the prio is to kill it

Is prob higher numbers but suboptimal

[olive wraith]

Oh you mean they aren’t focusing the prio mob

[honest trail]

If you clap above BB on it

[olive wraith]

The diff in prio damage there probably isn’t enough to warrant st rotation

Thats where the slayer argument comes in

[honest trail]

So far keys have just been easier when I play Thane in pug

Guess more aoe & tankiness helps

[olive wraith]

Ya I mean you just always have aoe

For slayer I get peeved when all my sd procs come at the end of a pull

[honest trail]

y that's sad

[modest condor]

yeah it sucks

[olive wraith]

I don’t really remember when I get good rng

But damn those bad rng moments stay in your head

[honest trail]

Aslo TB buffs will just make Thane slightly easier to perform with

[brave idol]

Anyone that can tell me how the open with Slayer on M+? I can't break 300K dps and I see others doing like 400-500K

[heavy galleon]

we have to wait 3 month to have another slayer buff

[olive wraith]

That’s normal

Wowhead prio is the way

[brave idol]

Damn, thats what I thought, ty

[stoic loom]

NoOoo but slayer burst bro!!!!

[modest condor]

i mean bladestorm is great for destroying adds in raid

but in m+ thane has the stronger cooldowns

[stoic loom]

I was having this argument in here the other day

This "slayer burst" people keep talking about doesnt exist in keys

[fading sky]

Of + bladestorm is burdt

It might be tiny🤣

But fury in gen has a flat dmg profile

[modest condor]

wouldnt say that in aoe

[stoic loom]

You mean the of that thane also has and hits harder through avatar

Or the bladestorm that hits for 1.5seconds

And its like silmarilen was saying

[modest condor]

this is slayer's damage profile in big aoe http://puu.sh/KNrKi/b8ece9dc1e.png

[stoic loom]

In reality thane bursts harder than slayer in aoe

[modest condor]

this is thane http://puu.sh/KNrKn/e6182204f3.png

look at that difference during lust especially

[fading sky]

Both are thane

[modest condor]

slayer pressed bladestorm and after that falls off a cliff

[stoic loom]

Slayer will be doing more for all of 1.5 seconds during bladestorm

And then quickly drops down

[fading sky]

Yup

[signal falcon]

Am I dumb or don’t both those graphs basically look the same after the first pull

[modest condor]

they are similar for sure

but thane's peaks are higher

you can especially see it at the ~150s and 300s marks

but tbh the screenshots were more about fury's damage profile not being flat in aoe

it just has low cooldown cds

[teal slate]

comparing thane to slayer in bloodlust is wild... you get more blast procs so of course thane is higher lol

[stoic loom]

You also get more sd and reap procs lol

[teal slate]

reap procs are so trash anyway so getting a little more doesnt help that much unless your in a pack like the first pull in AA and just whirlwind spamming hoping for them

[olive wraith]

No one is ww spamming

[teal slate]

...exactly....

[olive wraith]

It doesn’t proc reap I don’t understand what you’re trying to say lol

[teal slate]

uhhhh what

if whirlwind hits 3 or more targets it unleashes a flurry oif steel, applying overwhelm aswell as each of those hits can proc reap...

it was literally a discussion in this thread when 12.0.5 came out

[olive wraith]

Wasn’t that reverted

[teal slate]

no

[olive wraith]

You sure?

[teal slate]

yes

[modest condor]

whirlwind doesnt proc reap the storm lol

only rampage and sd do

[rugged hill]

It's rampage that procs it when rampage hits 3 or more targets with the whirlwind buff at 20% chance

and SD 100%

[burnt oxide]

Whirlwind triggering it was never on live, it was only ptr for like a week

[bitter palm]

772% ap lol

[drowsy heron]

why are druid tanks in 17-18s so fucking squishie, i see them die to the most random shit all the time

[floral belfry]

Skill issue fotm classes

[grand vale]

They probably use maul over iron fur

Easiest mistake to make

without if you die

[somber thicket]

Yeah had a dudu charg the pack with dragon and insta died

[drowsy heron]

literally just had one die to autos from tree boss in AA

[ember leaf]

why they buff MT

i wanna play SLAYER MAN

I WANNA SPIN

[somber thicket]

But done a +18 AA with a 278 druid but his tank main was 3,9 he literaly caried the run

[burnt oxide]

And? Just play slayer

[ember leaf]

i will

[drowsy heron]

Slayer still better ST, Thane better overall AoE

just back to both being good at their niche

[royal copper]

Next week with 30% TB increase..

[spare flame]

no sudden death procs in heavy aoe scenarios

[haughty zephyr]

What’s the main difference gameplay wise for Slayer vs thane? Just using whirlwind instead of clap?

[winter shoal]

Most of the core gameplay is very similar, the main difference being the difference in priority of execute, as well as thunder blast procs

[hoary tartan]

execute prio (and sudden death)/ bladestorm/ bloodthirst prio/ and ww/tc

also juggling 2 cooldowns with slayer that arent synced, when your 2 major cds always have the same cooldown on thane

[bleak brook]

Guys new to fury warrior here. Could you give me a reliable rotation guide for pve please. I'm using mountain thane. Looking at method's and icy vein's guides, they have some differences rotation vice

[supple galleon]

Aint slayer doing better at the moment?

Looking at the logs.

[peak plaza]

both are written by the same person

[bleak brook]

so slayer for both mythic+ and raiding? I thought it's only slithly better for st

[bleak brook]

damn

[supple galleon]

Well from what i see in the top logs yeah. Opinions from here i dont know.

[peak plaza]

raiding depends on boss, m+ both close play what you want currently

[bleak brook]

alright. which would you say has "easier" rotation? mainly for mythic+

[marble pilot]

Thane is easier for me. But they are still pretty similar

Really its preference. You either like bladestorm or tblast.
And from what I read in hear you hate the other and its the worst thing ever when you dont get to camp one spec the whole time.

[bleak brook]

alright, thx guys

[marble pilot]

I say try out a key or two as both and just stick to the one you prefer

[kind citrus]

for me it depends on the key, in some i play slayer, in others thane

[marble pilot]

Yeah when you are good at it it is easy to swap between them. But when you are just starting out try em both and just send the one you prefer.

Personally I like when its Thane in m+ and slayer in raid. But balance is so close right now you can play either in both just fine.

[oak garden]

Is the Eye Finger enchant a sim trap or valid for us?

[storm rune]

Which one is that again?

[oak garden]

the one which increase crit dmg

or chance

[dense valve]

Eyes of the Eagle

[past pivot]

Valid

[spare flame]

wtf is unholy dk dmg lol

they gonna nerf this shit again

[mossy fox]

i dont think they will

[thorn hearth]

just face it dk will always be meta

[alpine kiln]

All other gear is done, they sim within 40 DPS of eachother after re-gemming/recrafting.

I'm leaving this to a vote.

Which weapon are you picking?

(have pit weapon for arms)

[marble pilot]

Within 40 dps is take the one that mogs better imo

[spare flame]

so neither

[marble pilot]

If they both suck mog wise then take the 40 dps i guess

[spare flame]

voidcleaver is so tiny

and cutlass has roots in it, ugly af

[marble pilot]

Ive never looked. Ive been using 1hers all xpac

Or a mix of 1 1h and 1 2h. Like a spear/fist weapon

[alpine kiln]

I don't know if we'll ever want more haste, vs the heavy mastery on the cutlass

[lyric panther]

Do you want to take cutlass? last time you posted people said voidcleaver

[modest condor]

40 dps is within variance so it doesnt matter

[alpine kiln]

Indecisive as fuck

[lyric panther]

the wheel has decided, take the tokens and buy 3x 1000 gold chests

realistically it doesn't matter and you're not going to see any noticeable difference taking one over the other

[peak plaza]

sword hits harder than a axe

[thorn hearth]

sword look cooler than axe

[storm rune]

Real ones dual wield staves

[grand vale]

i'm using dw quel delar

looks nice on smaller bodys

[spare steppe]

Liferipper is great imo

[hollow leaf]

why do I play this game

[gleaming vessel]

Hey guys! i have a quick question about slayer aoe.
Do you guys use bladestorm before/after or during recklessness?

[lyric panther]

always during for ST

[zenith meteor]

i maintained 220k dps vs cleave traning dummies for 5 min is it good ?

[lyric panther]

check rotations, if its aoe you can use bladestrom if recklessness has over 30 sec left

[odd vapor]

can i get voidshards by doing bountiful delvs? and raid bosses?

[dim spindle]

Context is crucial

[lyric panther]

heroic and mythic raidbosses guranteed, as well as tier 11 bountiful delve chests

m10+ and nightmare prey boxes (think thats first 2 a week?)

[odd vapor]

tyty

[zenith meteor]

ilvl284

[undone flower]

[vale mortar]

Was wondering if anyone could clarify something for me. I've seen a few fury warriors with a lower ilvl in the MH and the higher ilvl in their OH and when I asked them about it they claimed it was becuz of the On Equip dmg on the crafted weapon needed to be in the MH. I was always under the impression you wanted your highest ilvl wep in your MH regardless. So, can anyone clarify which of us has been doing it wrong? I.E. here's my current MH and OF

[undone flower]

You want highest ilvl in main hand yes

[vale mortar]

That's what I thought, thank you

[undone flower]

Few fury telling you otherwise : they are dogshit

[vale mortar]

[undone flower]

They larp our spec we do this since S1 TWW

Crafted off hand

[odd vapor]

what are yall stats loking like? im seeing more haste than mastery on a few and others with more mast than haste

[undone flower]

Lots of haste/mastery/crit

[vale mortar]

I'm currently at 45% mast, 27% Haste and 15% Crit, 2% Vers

[undone flower]

You should sim your character on raidbot to see what you should equip, I can help if you need

[lyric panther]

28% crit, 28% haste, 26% mastery (arms for raid )

[vale mortar]

I believe it's pretty safe to say any fury warrior with more haste than mastery, is doing it wrong

[undone flower]

Allowed to craft a neck btw

Not rly

But they rly can’t use pot of reck in this scenario

[odd vapor]

pls

[odd vapor]

well noxiv has it, so im confused :((

or this is what i saw on murlok

[undone flower]

Bc specific stats amounts is bs

[summer quail]

how did people find this shitty murlok site

[lyric panther]

lol what is this site

oh its a pvp thing

[undone flower]

Murlok

It’s m+ too

Archon does it too

[summer quail]

idk but alot of people look at it, or atleast a decent amount of people "murlok says this" and i checked the site and it's not good

[undone flower]

It works like archon if I remember correctly

It’s just 50 top instead of 100

Or 200 I don’t remember which number archon take

Anyway, it is worthless to see that

[dense valve]

I mean it has his correct gear listed so the stats can’t be that wrong tbh. Doesn’t matter if you like the website or not

[undone flower]

10 min and I help you on raidbot topic

[summer quail]

yeah and that's just aggregation of data. it does not mean they have the best gear possible, yet the website makes it seem so. and it makes it seem like "ah you need x amount of this stat"

[undone flower]

The website is like that bc clicks

People wants bis list and stats amounts

[summer quail]

i am aware. people want lots of bad things

[undone flower]

Fortunately ppl aggregated sim their char

[odd vapor]

tyty

[olive wraith]

The problem is people will copy his gear thinking it’s the best

[heavy yacht]

yo i can't really find the answer anywhere but as a fury should you upgrade both your 2H wep with ascendant voidcore or just one is enough?

[undone flower]

i sent you a pm

[olive wraith]

Ideally both

[ruby tundra]

anyone know the name of this addon?

[heavy yacht]

even if one is crafted?

[olive wraith]

Why wouldn’t you?

[heavy yacht]

just wasn't sure if it made a difference or if you just had to do your main hand one

[olive wraith]

You’re not limited to 2 upgrades

[undone flower]

crafted becomes 295

[heavy yacht]

ok cool, so it should be spent on weps first

[languid willow]

I have this same stat line, when I use my mast flask it puts me over haste for my reck pot. Basically this is what raidbots said to do lol

[undone flower]

i think im in the same category

i think logs stats counts the pot

[languid willow]

I even tested to make sure that % gains from enrage or lust don’t affect the actual haste stat value just its % so your reck pot still procs mastery if it is your highest stat value. This is also the case in AA if you take the haste buff it’s a % not a raw value so as long as your base mastery value is the highest via flask or just baseline your reck pot will proc mastery

[dense valve]

Yeah i can see that

[languid willow]

Which is why I think raidbots will prio haste sometimes if you say you’re using a mastery flask so make sure you are also simming your flasks and pots

[olive wraith]

Sites like that also show what’s the most popular for each slot afaik. But if you combined all the pieces you’d get a lower sim total than if you just simmed as you got stuff

Atp id just feelycraft

[rotund valve]

Hi, Details_MythicPlus 😉

[gloomy karma]

i had voidclaw gauntlets do like .3% of my overall damage is that about right? seems kinda bad.

[alpine kiln]

But regular gloves do 0% extra damage

And tier gloves have vers also

[gloomy karma]

yeah i get that i just wasn't sure if it was bugged on the meters or something

[spring needle]

Pair it with the necklace from crown and it gets more spicy

Plus what else are you using in hands slot

[gloomy karma]

oh dang that's sweet i didn't think of that

no i totally get that the effect is "better than nothing" i just thought meter might be bugged cuz the tooltip says a different amount

[spring needle]

Here’s the tooltip for the necklace it pairs very well

[gloomy karma]

yeah that's pretty cool interaction for sure

[spring needle]

Definitely best for ret but it’s nice on fury

[toxic jewel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-boy-dance

[forest condor]

what do you guys think will be better next reset
fury or arms?

[toxic jewel]

even if fury is worse, fury

Fury4Lyfe

[modest condor]

arms is already ahead and it's getting buffed, i dont see why anything would change

[toxic jewel]

idk man

did a 18 pos with another arms earlier

i whooped him

[slim coral]

results based analysis

[alpine kiln]

It's easier to be bad at arms than fury

[toxic jewel]

but arms is easy

[languid willow]

They’re both easy

[olive wraith]

Walking is indeed easier than riding a bike

[alpine kiln]

Arms from Fury is like using a drum kit vs banging on bongos

Fury feels like

[upper lake]

3 straight AA 16s where tank dies during first gather. Is it a full moon tonight? wtf lol

I know it's a rough pull, just funny that it's 3 consecutives

[storm rune]

Kiting is for the weak

[dense elbow]

Why kite, when you can pray for the god RNG of BDKs parry

[urban gull]

Trying a fresh fury warrior what's the best use of my bonus rolls? have 10 bonus rolls.

[jolly wind]

Do u guys only press bladestorm during reck?

Sometimes they don’t line up

[spring needle]

U running MT or slayer?

[jolly wind]

Slayer

[spring needle]

Meant to ask @toxic jewel

[toxic jewel]

both

big aoe dungeons ill run thane

[olive wraith]

Yes try to always bs during rek

Sometimes you will send bs solo

[slim coral]

I’d recommend seat

The gloves are BiS there and if you don’t use your bonus rolls there now odds are you won’t get them for a while unless you high roll

[urban gull]

Oki ty

[undone flower]

Yeah ultra fresh char, seat is good bc you need those 10 items anyway

[sullen dove]

i mean.. def dont need like a crit verse and haste verse ring..

but yea most of the armor pieces are fine or catalyzeable if they arent

if u get like belt/helmet/gloves early tho def wouldnt drop all 10 there and just pick another dungeon while skipping all the trash like the rings/trinket/maybe neck is bad?

[dawn dawn]

im a NPX main imo. rings are insane and pretty much mandatory if ur not a myth raider

[undone flower]

Haste vers is usable

The ring

Talking about fresh fury

I don’t know what dungeon trinkets ppl use

I got myth gaze hero heart week 1

[olive wraith]

Box

Skyreach one

[upper lake]

So academy is just our worst pug key eh

Every time man people are doing so much more damage than I am. And then tank dies and I get blamed 😮‍💨

[languid willow]

We clap the last half of the dungeon

That first pull dictates nothing lol as long as the one lasher dies fast enough should be fine

[modest condor]

^

ironically academy is one of the lower overall dungeons

[upper lake]

Yeah it’s just frustrating can’t get a 17 done for resil … been trying all week.

[languid willow]

Like you got st mini boss, pure st boss, couple 8-10 packs, then two monster st bosses

Well timer is just tight, doesn’t matter who you bring

Keep getting reps in hoss you’ll get it

[upper lake]

yessir

[cinder viper]

any of yall actually running enraged regen?

it feels so awkward to get

[olive wraith]

Some are

It’s not too bad

Thane drops massacre

Slayer drops a point of cruelty

[cinder viper]

idk if it could just be healer diff or me being bad lol but ive been really finding myself starting to miss it now that im getting into 16's/17s

[olive wraith]

Then take it

are you using d stance

[cinder viper]

il give it a go

yea i got a stance dance macro

[olive wraith]

Stance mastery too?

[cinder viper]

negative

[olive wraith]

That would help

Stance mastery is huge

[cinder viper]

it probably would

i feel like i could drop javelineer, i dont wanna lose battlefield commander

although losing an interrupt does kinda suck

[sharp stratus]

so not sure if anyone can help me with this or not but my question is, in AA on the first room with tree boss when all trash is pulled(in a 17) i am getting up to about 500k as slayer spec fury warrior. and yet if we wipe then i get shamed for low dps by the froup as they abandon key, should my burst be higher or am i in the middle of the pack or is there a way to tell where i should be as a 286ilvl slayer specced warrior?

[upper lake]

hah going through the same thing.

[languid willow]

Every key since I got in like 18s

[languid willow]

Then they’re just stupid bro

[cinder viper]

actually i cant drop cause then i cant get to dual wield specializtion

seems like i gotta drop battlefield commander if i want stance mastery at least for MT

[languid willow]

If you look at any log, fury or arms, they aren’t doing anything dk dmg wise in that pull and they’re timing 21-23s

It’s not our job to pad it’s our job to hit the mob that needs to die

If you wanna pad go thane but you still won’t even get close to any other pad class and you’ll lose out on the ST benefit of the rest of the key

[sharp stratus]

i get that, ws just wondering from a warrior standpoint if i might be missing something and figured come here to see what that potentiallyt might be from the experience of other warriors, i play warrior as i really like the playstyle over pally or dk, but figured see if i am missing something. i know logs would help, just not much of a log when in the first couple mins the key is abandoned

[languid willow]

Just make sure the entire pull you’re following the tank so you don’t lose uptime and you’re focusing the prio lasher

If it dies and the tank lives because it died fast enough you did your job

[sharp stratus]

yeah i am glued to the tank, cause if they die then i insta die

[languid willow]

If you want a better picture of that dungeon just clear details after that pull then dictate your damage from there

To see if you’re doing well

[sharp stratus]

i will do that as well, ty for that suggestion.

i see thane is getting another aoe buff? any idea if slayer is going to be getting buffed?

[languid willow]

It’s not as we know

It’s also a 2% st buff as well

For thane

[sharp stratus]

ty again for everyone's time that responded to my inquiry, it is much appreciated

[haughty zephyr]

Whats the key to juggling Recklessness and Bladestorm?

[hoary tartan]

Always have to sync them, so sometimes you differ from the cut and dry “prio” on wowhead

[modest condor]

hold bladestorm for reck if the cooldown on reck is less than 30 seconds

otherwise send it

[hoary tartan]

On multi target

[haughty zephyr]

Gotcha. Trying to get into 19s and such and feel like I should be making the switch over to Slayer instead of playing thane

[hoary tartan]

If you’re timing properly throughout the dungeon, there should be very few times you BS without reck

Definitely don’t switch

Thane getting buffs are going to push it well over slayer in keys, esp high ones with more survivability

[olive wraith]

You don’t have to drop that

You’d lose javelineer and either crushing force or barbaric training

[upper lake]

doing the squidward watching spongebob and patrick play from a window meme irl while I watch a DH hit 1m on Seat first pull

[left perch]

doing the squidward watching spongebob and patrick play from a window meme irl while I watch a DH hit 1m on Seat first pull

[mint moat]

What are the new numbers in ST for Thane vs Slayer

[dim spindle]

Roughly 2% more than today

[olive wraith]

Slayer didn’t change

[open wigeon]

Is DK actually more durable than fury?

[summer quail]

against magic damage yes but against phys nahh

[open wigeon]

What DK have that makes him so tanky?

[summer quail]

anti magic shell is just stupid

[worthy yarrow]

whats the crafted weapon on war again

[summer quail]

any of the 2h str ones. choice is yours

[thorn hearth]

blood knights impetus/greatsword

with the darkmoon sigil

[worthy yarrow]

its haste mastery right

[thorn hearth]

i think so because thats the stat prio but it doesnt say on icy veins

[worthy yarrow]

tyty

[summer quail]

just craft it as haste mast and if you need to recraft later you can do so

[thorn hearth]

yeah its haste mast

[pale vigil]

is it the real bis or is isn't it better to get 2 myth weapon and 2 arcanoweave ?

[thorn hearth]

real BiS

[pale vigil]

alright

[thorn hearth]

although i think there was a thing where you could sub it for a cape but that was early in the season so they mightve changed it

nevermind it was sub cape for bracers not wep

[storm rune]

Compared to Slayer MT feels way too much like

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-steak-too-juicy-sarcastic-shrug-gif-12241594544090544701

[compact knot]

Fury way better vs Rot then DK

DK is insanely good against burst magic damage though which is more common then burst physical

but most the raids have a lot of Rot so fury is imo tankier in raid while DK is tankier in m+

[sage ridge]

Is Thane the go to after next patch?

I play mainly Arms but saw the buffs to Thane

[subtle lagoon]

I've been thane day 1, will remain thane

[sage ridge]

Just seemed like after the last buffs Slayer st made it more worth than Thane for Fury

[compact knot]

colossus and thane overalls are probably pretty close

(now)

[sage ridge]

Oh I think Colossus still clears either Fury spec

[subtle lagoon]

Surely not?

[sage ridge]

I just like to play Fury here and there

But I am curious which spec is stronger

[compact knot]

oh u mean like slayer fury vs thane fury

ic

thane already had higher overalls and a little less boss dps

[compact knot]

now itll have much higher overalls and still a tiny bit less boss dps

[open wigeon]

It seems DKs has less deaths in raid

Not sure how reliable is this statistic tho

[compact knot]

idk i checked it and dont really trust it

shamans are very high

and frost mage is shown as being as squishy as ww monk

[open wigeon]

I guess mages makes sense, since they are passively squish

[compact knot]

i will say

alot of the times a fury warrior dies

its because of greed

[open wigeon]

Yes, probably

[compact knot]

(spec requires you to be greedy)

also frost dk is shown to die less then unholy dk

that is just not believable to me

[open wigeon]

Unholy is tankier than frost?

[compact knot]

think they are the same

[open wigeon]

Although, the numbers are pretty equal

[compact knot]

but frost is true melee

while unholy is not

although frost plays deathbringer which im pretty sure has some insane passive tankiness built in

[bitter palm]

rider has free ams

or free 4% dr depends what j want

[bitter palm]

fury was high on deaths in s3 df

[compact knot]

yeah i mean idk

[bitter palm]

so its safe to say its not reliable

[compact knot]

greedy spec

its literally immortal though

[bitter palm]

s3 df fury u could just tank the smolderon rings

with er

[compact knot]

yup

i did that during prog

[bitter palm]

like???

same

[subtle lagoon]

Majority of my deaths during prog was because of not having er tbh

[bitter palm]

had a hpal saccing me and dying

[compact knot]

i wonder how slayer arms vs thane fury tankiness goes

both have good sustained self hps

both have SR

arms is the only one with a wall though

fury like perma 10% dr and tblast gives like 5% extra or smth

with extra hp

[random shadow]

Think furys better

[compact knot]

yeah

which is not shown on that wcl thing

[subtle lagoon]

thane has steadfast, 5% more stam

[random shadow]

BT helps healing. Could easily spec into enraged regen as well

[compact knot]

think extra stam is fake in raid

rather the 8% from using tblast

[subtle lagoon]

I'm mostly talking from an m+ perspective because who really cares about raid

[compact knot]

its already a high hp spec anyways

[random shadow]

I think both is more or less fine in raid. But in keys i think furys judt better

For living

[compact knot]

well the context was more so of raid

[worthy yarrow]

an1 able to craft on US servers...?

[inner zinc]

fury has cake, meanwhile arms is starving

[compact knot]

arms self hps is way higher then fury in keys

[random shadow]

Is it tho

[compact knot]

yes

[random shadow]

Hm idk. Its been a hot minute since I've decently done fury keys

[inner zinc]

ignore pain shielding is hps

[random shadow]

No one uses ignore pain on arms

[compact knot]

you dont take ignore pain

also if we are talking in the context of m+ colossus might be the tankiest dps spec in the game no diff

that hero talent is unkillable against rot or big burst

[random shadow]

Which one

The dr or whatever

[compact knot]

colossus

[open wigeon]

Has to remember that demolish buff is almost 100% now how fast CD goes, so it's almost a permanent 10% DR

[random shadow]

No the talent

[compact knot]

there is 2 talents

1 is a passive 5% dr

the other is 10% when you use demolish

and demolish is like a 20 second cd in aoe

[random shadow]

Hmm its nice if line sup but I cant say I try to demo right when stuffs gonna hit me tbh

[compact knot]

it also applies bleeds in aoe then makes them hit harder

so for the duration of that deep wounds it applies you are doing like 70k self hps lmao

[random shadow]

Colo is nice. Just a shame its not st damage without funnel

[fading sky]

3.5% more now

[open wigeon]

Iam actually reading all of DKs passive defences, and there are A LOT

[compact knot]

hmm healing parses

most self healing and took the least dps in the key (+19)

[random shadow]

3.5% of low dps is still low st dps

Without funnel ofc

[fading sky]

Nah fam dont math

Do feelycraft

[compact knot]

its still like 3k dps

very good imo

[fading sky]

Haha

Np

[random shadow]

Its ok I mainly only player slayer now

Judt feels better anyways

[fading sky]

Slarms feels way better in pugs

[random shadow]

It just feels smooth. And clicking exe is just enjoyable to me

[compact knot]

the more i look into demolish the better it gets

the button is literally a self lay on hands

atleast on aoe packs

its worthless on st but

[random shadow]

Does this mean I can justify using demo on a green circle or whatever

[compact knot]

with spell reflect man...

you could probably live those circles in maisara on a +20 after using demolish

then top yourself after in like 1 second cause of how hard the bleeds are hitting for

i took a 10 second snapshot of a key i did and my bleeds did 1.2 million dps in that 10 second snapshot

just healing myself 100k hps from bleeds for free not even counting leech or veteran vitality

[smoky vale]

yeah but then you are actively playing colossus

[undone flower]

Demolish takes time to be accepted

It is the best warrior spell

[bitter palm]

🥀

[smoky vale]

cone you just missed peak

[jolly wind]

Is there an addon that tells u or shows u when ur being targeted for a cast?

[smoky vale]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/targetedspells

ty @frail bloom

[jolly wind]

I wish other specs hero talents were both viable and good like how fury and arms u can play either or and they both have their own strengths and weaknesses

Most specs only one hero tree is the best

[undone flower]

I still don’t know what viable mean to ppl

I would consider all 6 hero-spec of war viable

But on other specs their hero talents are just bad

Unfun

War is the best served

All other specs have at least 1 hero talent combobulating fun

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral dumb

[heavy galleon]

That's true but It's boring when Blizzard try to tell you, you have the choice, but you don't really have it, except if you are ok with being weaker

For me Fury warrior was funiest when hero spec doesn't exist

[timid tide]

Lately for me it feels like Slayer is doing better in keys. Like Thane does a lot, when the tank has a good tempo with the pulls but if not, feels like I'm not doing much. Don't know the numbers but also seems like on ST my dmg is very low. Slayer slaps on the other hand

[peak plaza]

Just play whatever ur comfortable on, a good thane does better dmg than a bad slayer

Same goes for arms vs fury, good fury does more dmg then a mid arms

[fringe citrus]

completely agree with this

[bitter palm]

why not be a good arms

[mossy fox]

why skip arm day

[dense elbow]

Dont listen to the two above, they play arms, they dont have arms. Play Fury, flex on them

[hidden tinsel]

Imagine waiting for rage to press somethign

Nah but in all seriousness slayer fury is fun

[peak plaza]

i wish :c

[hidden tinsel]

thane gets 2% ST buff but is 5% ST away from slayer, instead of being 6k damage ahead its only going to be ~4k damage ahead now? From 104k to 106~107k vs 111k?

[unborn musk]

I either suck, or Slayer does jack shit AoE

At least compared to thane

[drowsy heron]

anyone know what addon people use to call out their focus target marker?

[hidden tinsel]

Its on mdt, open the addon and click marks

[drowsy heron]

oh didnt know that was part of that one, thanks

[hidden tinsel]

very cool to find out I already had it when someone showed me some days ago

[hidden tinsel]

here is the thing, bladestorm is very crucial in timing and positioning, but provided you keep good uptime and keep getting SD procs its fine

in 5 targets the difference should not be that big, 3% higher thane, but in practice could be lower slayer since there is more room for error

this is 3m sim

for 10 targets its a bit further

[unborn musk]

That seems to be the issue. The mobs needs to all be stacked relatively close together. I'm still not completely accustomed to Slayer, as I only played Thane this season. The ST is great, but I feel like at 288 ilvl I should be doing more than 250k dps on larget pulls

[sinful sequoia]

but also if your very lucky with SD Procs, without reck its kind of meh.

[hidden tinsel]

ive seen the sims launch recklesness as soon as possible, because it could net you the last SD proc you need

maybe that could help

[unborn musk]

On dummies when I got shit ton of SD procs the DPS skyrocketed. I even beat the sim on single target

[hidden tinsel]

yeah, for sure, some tanks keep mobs in narnia and we literally can't hit all of them with just bladestorm

is thunder blast bigger range than bladestorm?

[sinful sequoia]

yeah because of SD and RTS DMG

[sinful sequoia]

TB is 12y? right? BS Tooltip doesent tell XD

[hidden tinsel]

time for testing, im heading over to the dummies

so far whirlwind and bladestorm are exactly the same range

Oh yeah, seems like whirlwind and BS are only 10y

or even 9

[sinful sequoia]

But where comes the range increase

should be 8 normaly

because TC also is 8 before speccing into Thane

so 8--->12

[hidden tinsel]

8 yes

[sinful sequoia]

so 8 should be BS WW

yeah

[mossy fox]

jump and cast midair to add 1y

[sinful sequoia]

nice @least 9y then

wierd still, kind of OF also has 12 so kind of WW and BS could also go on 12 base

or @least if you play Slayer

[flat river]

hey critcake :3

[hidden tinsel]

I've seen enough Critcake streams to know he is looking at this chat like a business owner looks at clients

Much love

[strange drift]

My RL asked me to play arms and i just told him that 2 swords > 1 and the discussion ended

[old latch]

will add that to my M+ tag note

[strange drift]

like everytime someone asks me that i feel like bolvar strapped with chains on top of icc refusing to serve the lich king

[bitter palm]

hi gio

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327389032711458846/1506666572230426684/image0.gif

joke is old

[bitter palm]

gala five seven

[flat river]

i never had 57 in my name

or a number for that matter xD

[dawn comet]

Hi, is haste > mastery (/why?) on fury warr as i read online ? in my eyes it makes more sense for mastery > haste, also is there a list of what % mastery haste crit should you try to go for ? (im 19 crit 27.5 haste 39.1 mastery right now), playing mostly thane (except March)

[vestal root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[spare steppe]

Sims are all you need, stat weights are really a thing of the past. Start with ilvl and then work your way up

[misty patrol]

This

[analog dagger]

is thane better than slayer after recent thunderblast buff or still roughly equal?

[fading sky]

Tbh gap isnt big enuff, unless paladins

[charred relic]

does fearless clear roots?

[dim spindle]

Been playing since BC and I never knew this. My whole life has been a lie.

Does this "mechanic" mean you get an extra bit of range with your TC while mid-charge?

and/or leap

[marble apex]

the buffs comes on 26-27 no?

[dim spindle]

hmm I'm almost certain it used to

Oh, sorry. Fearless does not

Relentless Pursuit does

Get those 2 mixed up for some reason

Avatar doesn't anymore because Blizzard hates Warriors

[dim spindle]

Haste means more rage, more rage means more furiousness

It's just science

Believe it or not Mastery slides down to 3rd stat prio for many/most/all of us at a certain point. Especially for multi-target. But that can and probably will change again as ilvl increases

Speaking as a Thane Brain

Once DR starts being a nuisance vers will most likely move up a notch or 2

[grand vale]

it just gives the impression that haste is worse because mastery rating gives more percentage

but if you look at rating of people their haste rating is usually above their mastery rating

even if their mastery % is higher than haste %

i'm still torn on the weapon enchants

wowhead says go mastery but states haste as an alternative

but only for enchants not for stat prio which is kinda weird

since they both give the same amount of stats

[vestal root]

bot is atm pushing crit more than mastery for me

[next mica]

what are the buffs?

[old latch]

Thunder Blast damage increased by 30%

[next mica]

: O

[timid tide]

But the buffs come next reset. I mean, it's a welcomed buff, because TB feels non impactful atm and not worth pressing unless in aoe or two charges. I feel like Thane has gotten a bit slower with it's rotation? While Slayer is faster and more chaotic

[next mica]

what?xD

like 20% of my damage in some dungeons

thats like more then 5% overall buff

[modest condor]

ive done dungeons with you, thunderblast is not 20% of your damage

[next mica]

lies

[timid tide]

No, I mean you use it a lot, regardless of it's TB or TC, it's just your aoe. But TB doesn't feel like "wow, I just pressed my proc"

[modest condor]

thunderclap maybe, but that's not getting buffed

[next mica]

ohhh thunder blast :' )

i cant read

[light osprey]

in AA, what buff should fury wars get

haste or mastery

[languid willow]

I usually go crit

[light osprey]

Crit the move ?

[languid willow]

I have like 1k mast 1k haste with flask and everytime I sim more of those over crit, crit wins out

[light osprey]

Yeah I’m about the same
1060 haste
1255 mastery

Thank
You

[languid willow]

Fury also just likes crit even if it isn’t our first secondary to go up, but with the eyes of the eagle enchantment on rings more crit is nice

[modest hollow]

when playing fury slayer, should i stop thinking about pressing RB?

[light osprey]

I use RB as filler

But yeah rampage/blood thirst / sudden death execute are king lol

[modest hollow]

even if it becomes crushing blow?

[dim spindle]

Prio doesn't change. You still have to hate press RB/CB now and then. Less painful since they buffed it at least

Get a shaman and your RB usage will be even less

RB/CB still gives a good chunk of rage per cast even if the damage is smol

[hardy cargo]

In what scenario are we talking

[modest hollow]

aoe

[hardy cargo]

Ignore rb

2t still press but anything above that u can brain off and smash ww

[dim spindle]

TLDR - 2+ targets = zug

[static loom]

With Meat Cleaver, you use WW over RB at 3+ targets. Without it you use it with 6+ targets
During Reck you use WW over CB at 2+ targets no matter if you have MC or not

[lapis rose]

guys in aoe scenario u pressing execute with sd even if we overcapping rage a lot? or u press rampage and execute for next rampage?

[static loom]

Rampage is always #1 prio if you're rage capped

Unless you just want burst AoE over sustained damage

[lapis rose]

i mean scenario like that u have 90 rage and SD pop, what u pressing execute or rampage?

[static loom]

at 90 rage, you press Exe

[tranquil field]

Depends if it’s your last charge of imp ww

[lapis rose]

i thought in aoe we spam rampage no matter what for reap, no?

[tranquil field]

At 90 rage with sudden death up in aoe, last charge of imp ww I would rampage

[modest condor]

let me get my copypasta again

rampage casts are based on rage generated, not cooldown, casting it early doesnt get you more rampages it just means your next one is delayed

as long as you're not rage capped you're not losing rampage casts by holding it for 1 or 2 more gcds

[lapis rose]

im just trying to understand aoe scenario on what should i focus when big pulls

like in tww3 we ignoring exetuce sometimes on bit pulls for spamming rb and getting more reap procks

something like that in this season

[modest condor]

right now that would be sd procs

[lapis rose]

so in aoe we prefer sd procs and that give best dps for us?

[modest condor]

but then sd has 2 charges and an internal cooldown so it's still not as important to press on cooldown as raging blow was last season

sd is gonna be where a lot of your reap procs come from

[static loom]

This is my current APL for Slayer AoE, haven't spent as much time on it as the Patchwerk one, but it's the best I've gotten this far

[digital mauve]

how are thane fury gonna look with the buff?

[dense elbow]

same as always, only a bit more dps, about 4% in keys overall

[digital mauve]

ok but in the great scheme of things, how are we looking inraids and m+?

[dense elbow]

same as we did before the buff

[digital mauve]

Which is?

[dense elbow]

fine

[fair comet]

b tier

[static loom]

Before the buffs you could play Slayer or Thane on every fight and every m+ dungeon this tier

After the buffs you can play Slayer or Thane on every fight and every m+ dungeon this tier

[radiant plank]

shocking

[dense elbow]

Yes, but what about the GRAND GREAT SCHEME of things?

[languid willow]

Some key I clappa , some key I spinna

[spare steppe]

Ok but for like this particular fight what’s the omega best? I can’t tell you my comp, raid situation, or anything

[olive wraith]

You actually switch to 1h dual wielding, it’s gotta be specifically glaives though. And then you color yourself purple and start shooting void stuff out of your eyes

[static loom]

The bench is always an option, and let the tank bring the Battle Shout!

[spare steppe]

Too fucking real man

I’ve actually tanked 3 prog bosses to success due to absences

[gleaming vine]

quick question, am i supposed to be spamming rampage? i try to do the rotation wowhead suggests but i find myself capping rage constantly

[olive wraith]

You press it often during cooldowns

[gleaming vine]

kk ty

[gilded belfry]

Why?

[sly bobcat]

Tfw you have a 2 weeks vacation. Stop pushing keys lads. I’m only 150 above 1% mount plz and thx

Gonna be dog poo grps when I come back

☠️

[marble pilot]

Going to have to repush anyway next month when the .7 powerboost comes out

[olive wraith]

What is 1% at right now

18/19s?

[modest condor]

i dont think score will go up by 150 points in 2 weeks

[tender monolith]

New to the server here. Personally thoroughly enjoy Thane but I'm seeing a lot of high key videos as Slayer. Has Slayer taken over M+ builds or is that just these 20+ keys?

[sly bobcat]

Dope

[winter shoal]

Both are very close at all key levels, just play whichever you prefer

[spare flame]

what rating is 1% rn?

[slender perch]

Am I inting if i don't play Colo Arms on myth paladins?

Rhetorical question really 😐

[radiant plank]

yeah

https://tenor.com/view/hydrogen-bomb-vs-baby-gif-16389939655051520745

[slender perch]

True perfect use of gif

Ty ggs

[static loom]

Is Colo Arms better than Thane on Paladins, yes
Are you inting by playing Thane, no

Since progress, I've played Thane on every reclear

[sly bobcat]

Raider.io has latests estimates. 3666 last time I looked

[uneven path]

I am playing slury just for fun

[uneven path]

I know eu was 3.7 but now it will be slightly higher

[inland coral]

Mountain thane. Having a hard time getting high parses on 19’s.
What are you guys doing for aoe rotation at this key level?

[olive wraith]

Wowhead is still the rotation

At 19s it’s probably more about routing/chain pulling. And your comp

[inland coral]

We are pugging the other two DPS spots, what should I be suggesting for our routes to maximize my impact?

[olive wraith]

We like high up time so like we’re really good at chain pulls. As far as specific routing that’s above my pay grade

But also. Key parsing is kinda fake imo

[languid willow]

100% this

The top parses are just people pulling mega groups in organized play with rotated cc and kicks. As long as you are doing dmg and timing the key you’re fine

But for thane if it’s 6+ targets you legit thunderclap over rage cap

you’re probably missing out on a lot of aoe dmg due to sending rampages when you should just be clapping

[inland coral]

Yeah this is helpful.

I noticed the top fury parse cast thunder (two total) more than me a minute. Not a huge difference but could equate to a big DPS lift.

*not two times, two more total haha

[undone flower]

Top parses in keys can just be the key is faster, you need the same amount of total dmg in that particular key lvl, more dps if there is less seconds for the same dmg

[inland coral]

I’m with you on that. The rest of my group are in the high 90s so this is just an ego thing for sure.

I was very competitive up until this 19 range

[somber thicket]

3770 eu now

[olive wraith]

What key levels is that

[somber thicket]

All 19

Blizz should give some fck ratę for the mount 3400 then like 3800 its crazy every week is getin up

And still we dont know how the mount looks

[uneven path]

I am free

[dense elbow]

One mount recolour per 100 score above 3k Just code it to go infinite

[undone flower]

G G

[dense elbow]

Gz

[sly bobcat]

Orrrr….. everyone runs a 2 on their rat alts to lower it? 2 pronged game

[slim coral]

honestly a lot of it comes down to chain pulling

the most cds as fury the better

and since ramp reduces cds chain pulling is so good

[somber thicket]

How it is fair Us is less than 3700 Eu and cChaina almost 3800 then Korea 3670

[olive wraith]

That’s what it’s like for almost every ranking system

[undone flower]

Yeah there is many factor for key parses, you yourself having a great time and the key getting deleted by the group

[olive wraith]

Some regions are more sweaty

[somber thicket]

Puging keys to last week is pure depresion

[olive wraith]

Sure I can feel that

[undone flower]

There is more players in EU> NA and more China > Na+EU combined

[fair void]

Heyyy
How much and how feel is the difference between slayer and Thane in m+ bosses and m+ overall guys ?

[analog matrix]

Slayer got slightly better st , but Overall it does close to the same dmg. High keys you would prefer slayer imo

[stoic loom]

I send rampage instead of clapping at high target counts and still have 80+ logs in every 20/21 so thats prob not it

[languid willow]

NO WAY NOT MR BEAST

[uneven path]

OMG

[sinful pelican]

REAL 😱

[winter shoal]

<@&257983573498265600>

[modest condor]

damn i was too late

[uneven path]

Aaaand its gon

[modest condor]

there goes my 2000 dollars

[uneven path]

I think it was 3.5k

[modest condor]

holy

[fair void]

And for prio target in a big pull, there is a diff ? 🤔

[main plume]

somewhat new to Fury, What Buffs/proccs do i need to Track really ? -.-

[winter shoal]

Sudden death, whirlwind

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral dumb

[winter shoal]

You also might want to track your reck/ava durations, but not super necessary if you don't want

[main plume]

alright thanks bro

[main plume]

thought enrage would be something to track aslo, but i guess not xD

[winter shoal]

Oh yeah sorry you def track that

but also there's a bug where it disappears randomly from the cdm so even if you track it, the game says no anyways :^)

[main plume]

haha damn xD okey thanks !

[winter shoal]

You still want to track it though

I just have it as a bar isntead of icons so I forgor to say it

[soft orbit]

even as bar it disappears

[winter shoal]

Sure does

[main plume]

yeah same here, prefer the bars, i'm gonna use a build without Ava thought,. Simmed like 5k more dps

[winter shoal]

Thane should always play avatar, slayer should always use bladestorm

[soft orbit]

i heard ppl saying it doesnt happen with atrocity ui but i dont know if there is another addon that tracks it properly

[winter shoal]

I'm almost certain it does happen on AUI from watching baze

[main plume]

about Raging blow, when do you guys hit that xD ?

[winter shoal]

When you have nothing left to hit basically

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[main plume]

thanks mate ! felt like when i was playing, Raging blow never came in naturally to my rotation xDD

and started to hit it when i saw 2 stacks -.-

[solar gale]

does crafting a weapon reduce the cost of upgrading myth one or no

[winter shoal]

Yes

[inland coral]

You only pay for the extra +4 ilvl for 6/6 myth if you already crafted

[grand vale]

it's also great if you play prot occasionally because the one crafted 2h will reduce the upgrade cost of both shield and 1h

but with the crest cap gone that isn't really important anymore

just saves you a few keys/delves whatever

[junior gale]

Fury L

[loud field]

hey folks

how we doin

[olive wraith]

Thane stonks