fury

[thin scroll]

the average age alone in this game

[gleaming yacht]

anyone know if crown shadow damage neck is bis with voidclaw hands? Also does the nexus point ring set do shadow damage?

[scarlet swift]

no, its trash actually, its not worth the hunt

[burnt oxide]

No to bis, yes to rings

[olive wraith]

?

[gleaming yacht]

neck just too much haste?

[undone flower]

neck is good

[fading sky]

Deez. Pls ahow ya parses

[burnt oxide]

It is good, but not bis

[undone flower]

it's just lura neck has 2 sockets

[burnt oxide]

[gleaming yacht]

true, just didn't know how nasty that neck equip would be with the shadow gloves

[bitter palm]

facts

[undone flower]

so bis sim says lura neck, but they are both similar

[scarlet swift]

enjoy please

[bitter palm]

if the game wasnt 50 euros to even start playing then 13 eur a month

maybe there would be new players

[thin scroll]

true that

[daring laurel]

Ilvl parses

[undone flower]

heroic ilvl parses*

[scarlet swift]

i aint no myth raider

[warm crag]

why not? too noob?

[scarlet swift]

why? its not fun to do 100-300 pulls and get nothing from it

[warm crag]

admit it

you are too noob

[fading sky]

Pretty shit y

[warm crag]

you could not kill salhadaar mythic. the kick mechanic is too difficult for your small brain

[olive wraith]

Hey, some of us just can’t commit to raid times

[thin scroll]

4/9m is pugable

in under 20 pulls

[fading abyss]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/z8M2TpyBW7vFaVN9?fight=last&playermetric=playerscore

Can anyone take a look thru my log to see what I could be doing wrong? +14 Pit got picked up 3 times by the gargoyles so there’s that but may dmg is low. Any insight would be helpful thanks!

[warm crag]

unfortunately not the issue for them

[scarlet swift]

no?

[thin scroll]

For BIS u only need 3/9M

[gleaming yacht]

is bis sim nexus point rings? trying to figure out what to reroll. only boots and neck aren't mythic. guild is progging paladins rn

[bitter palm]

what kick mechanic

[scarlet swift]

as you can tell im an avid player

[thin scroll]

Its 100% pugable

[bitter palm]

i just hit boss

is it the shadow adds

that spawn

and disappear

[scarlet swift]

not everyone is chronically in wow like @warm crag

[bitter palm]

i lowk leap over them idk what the ydo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1506184107032580136/images.png?ex=6a0ff9c2&is=6a0ea842&hm=ea71406f14f9fafe4cab505db38c7dfdc450744579160759023953b87e2a68de&

[olive wraith]

Low key don’t even care about Bis

[burnt oxide]

Long story short: everyones interface is bad for everyone but themselves, ranting sbout them is useless

[olive wraith]

I’m not gonna get title

[warm crag]

not everyone is noob like @scarlet swift

[fickle stirrup]

I know this is probably late compared to most people in here but I got my first CE ever 😭

[warm crag]

why the fuck would you leap over them they dont do damage lmao

[scarlet swift]

show logs

[warm crag]

goat !!!!

[thin scroll]

raiding isnt fun anyways

[bitter palm]

u think

i know

what these bosses do

[thin scroll]

imo

[bitter palm]

i was told its like heroic

[gleaming yacht]

what yall rerolling after gaze, heart, voidclaw and magisters weapon?

[bitter palm]

so i just played it like heroic

[olive wraith]

Ye I don’t really like raid

[bitter palm]

W

[undone flower]

deserved

[scarlet swift]

noob

[modest condor]

lfr?

[scarlet swift]

look at it

[warm crag]

no mythic

[fickle stirrup]

🙏

[warm crag]

i wouldnt show off a grey lfr log

[olive wraith]

No

[modest condor]

yes you would

[burnt oxide]

way more worth than any heroic, no matter what

[thin scroll]

Power creep from Raid Trinkets just too big, so u kinda have to commit for atleast 3/9

[warm crag]

its beyond my pay grade

[olive wraith]

This tier I didn’t touch raid at all

[bitter palm]

idk 3/9 is like

mega easy

i played them like heroic bosses

and never failed

[olive wraith]

I might try to do chim

[burnt oxide]

they are heroic bosses in disguise

[bitter palm]

chim is by far the hardest

[daring laurel]

Grey lfr log more impressive than a 99 mythic parse frfr

[thin scroll]

it is but it still isnt fun tho

[warm crag]

please do

[bitter palm]

idk clicking enemy damage takena

and hovering over the boss

[warm crag]

trivial boss

[bitter palm]

and seeing myself turbo gapping everyone

is always fun

[olive wraith]

I’m still rocking an adventurer trink lmao

[bitter palm]

[burnt oxide]

[olive wraith]

I started the season 2 weeks ago leave me alone 🤣

[warm crag]

suspicious

[thin scroll]

I still had mark of light on my warrior till 3500 even tho I ran skyreach 24 times

Atleast got gaze on it after

[olive wraith]

Invites have been hard cause I have no io and no ilvl

[thin scroll]

Still havent seen Solarflare drop once on warri

[bitter palm]

good

just get heart

[undone flower]

idk i waste my bonus rolls when i feel the vibe

[olive wraith]

Same

[undone flower]

we killed beloren yesterday, i bonus rolled it just bc

[olive wraith]

Big d energy

[undone flower]

i got the trinket i will never use it

[thin scroll]

Have heart nd gaze

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1506184107032580136/images.png?ex=6a0ff9c2&is=6a0ea842&hm=ea71406f14f9fafe4cab505db38c7dfdc450744579160759023953b87e2a68de&

[thin scroll]

But not playing too much warrior atm

[olive wraith]

Ew

Gross

[thin scroll]

Enjoying Outlaw

[olive wraith]

Ok I’ll allow it

Our brother spec

[thin scroll]

And Enhance & DK :,)

[olive wraith]

Enh passes vibe check

[thin scroll]

DK tbh isnt even fun

[olive wraith]

Dk gtfo

[gleaming yacht]

how hard is belo compared to last 3 voidspire? my guild is progging paladins rn

[warm crag]

very hard

[undone flower]

my guild was dog awful on beloren, so idk

[bitter palm]

top 3 most boring specs in the game

unholy

[thin scroll]

I even swapped to frost for raids atleast

[undone flower]

if you do oversimplified strat, it can die quickly

[gleaming yacht]

im guessing its 2 phase with the egg phase duration nerf?

[thin scroll]

cause UH so boring

[undone flower]

like everyone soak the 2 soaks etc

[fading sky]

Random hc logs never did hc last bosses tbh

[bitter palm]

frost better anyway

[fading sky]

As fury

[bitter palm]

i have 0 on crown

week 1 died in p2

got assassinated

[olive wraith]

Does frost play similar to tww

[bitter palm]

as a loot body

[bitter palm]

no idea

but unholy is a chud spec

[burnt oxide]

to last season

[bitter palm]

so frost is better

[thin scroll]

noone playing frost tho lol

[burnt oxide]

got changed by a lot in s3

[bitter palm]

cluegi people

whats new

[undone flower]

lura hc was our gift after killing alleria mythic

[thin scroll]

rank 124 with just first timing it in HC cause there are only like 3k parses

compared to UHDK

with 45

k

[undone flower]

average perf mogged

[fading sky]

Dno how guild let u kill so much on chimara🤣🤣, must be a pug

[scarlet swift]

whateven are those numbers? they dont make sense on %

[bitter palm]

just go boss damage

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1506184107032580136/images.png?ex=6a0ff9c2&is=6a0ea842&hm=ea71406f14f9fafe4cab505db38c7dfdc450744579160759023953b87e2a68de&

2nd soak

[undone flower]

we kept doing chimera hc a lil longer

[bitter palm]

hit boss

[undone flower]

reclear was basically chimera hc -> mythic -> voidspire myth

[thin scroll]

was probably in first or 2nd week

[undone flower]

which ones ?

[scarlet swift]

79k on saladbar is def not a 99 parse

[undone flower]

yes your main page parses are from the day you killed it

[thin scroll]

Still have 99 Logs on my Ret from Week-1 that would be like 85 today

it shows what it was when u killed it

[undone flower]

idk if today parse is .5 too

[scarlet swift]

so why is my 87 lower?

oh ilvl

well no, your 272 is still weird

[undone flower]

i guess it is not counting post .5

[fading sky]

Also went arms

[undone flower]

arms

[fading sky]

Lura we did the whole dont interrupt crystals

[fading sky]

Parse gone

[undone flower]

i did 1 boss as arms, even if you count normal, lfr, heroic

[fading sky]

My best mythic parse is pala

Got a 97 on kill last week

[undone flower]

i didn't kill it since war buffs

we just continued the raid

[fading sky]

We slower

And worse🤣

Cosmos prog atm

[undone flower]

which part ?

[fading sky]

P2

[undone flower]

okok

[fading sky]

P1 solved

Somewhat🤣🤣

[undone flower]

you enjoy doing obelisks ?

[fading sky]

Im dk

I hate lifw

[undone flower]

how many melees

[fading sky]

2 many

1 ret 1 rogue 2 dks

Dk is hell

[undone flower]

not too many, i did a night with only 2 melees

[fading sky]

I gotta grip all the time

[undone flower]

it was 1/2 i get an obelisk in p2

[olive wraith]

Raid buff

[fading sky]

At least u got good at aimin?

[undone flower]

some pull i did all melee p2 obelisks

[fading sky]

Im only on dk coz we dont have 2 dks

[undone flower]

now im assigned to do a kick on lura it was weird the first pulls

[rapid helm]

New warrior here. Grandpa gamer (late 30s) struggling a bit with the APM and focusing on which button to hit next while trying not to die to mechanics. Any tips that made things simpler for you when learning the spec? Or is it simply a matter of muscle memory with the keybinds?

[fading sky]

How is ya ui

Because if u dont have shit centered and enrage timer // rage var

[olive wraith]

Mostly muscle memory and keybinds

[fading sky]

Fury is cooked

[rapid helm]

Pretty standard.

Small section of my large 34" screen. but the important part

[fading sky]

Yy

Well in gen learn prio

Sd is 1

If rage is 100+ ramp

If u can bt bt

Like its pretty easy 2 know what 2 hit

[rapid helm]

Yeah, I guess my main problem is keeping an eye on enrage buff and whirlwind buff timers/counts while also seeing if BT/OF/WW/Reck are off CD while also pressing 20 buttons a second

[fading sky]

Enrage buff is a non ssue rly

Should have 100% naturally

[rapid helm]

Yeah, I figure that keeps itself going. I set a text to speech alert for whirlwind drop off

[fading sky]

I mean

Which tracker u use for ww?

[rapid helm]

Just CDM, the small buff bubble above rage bar

[fading sky]

Senseis is pretty hard w miss

But also

1 2 3 4 ww 1 2 3 4 ww

🤣

Actually in m+ mby its just wws in aoe

Havent checked in,in 12.05

[rapid helm]

I'm mostly M+, don't really raid

MBT?

[undone flower]

It is

[fading sky]

@undone flower when do u ww spam?

[undone flower]

3+ targets if I remember correctly

[fading sky]

Jesus

[undone flower]

WW> RB

[fading sky]

Furys cooked🤣🤣

But above bt

[rapid helm]

I've been following the Wowhead guide..

thought WW was just to keep up the buff

or a filler if BT on CD

[fading sky]

Slayer r?

[rapid helm]

Yeah

[undone flower]

So rotation is rampage ragecap/enrage > SD > BT>WW

[fading sky]

In aoe

• 3

[undone flower]

In AoE

[fading sky]

So u spam ww a lot🤣

[rapid helm]

SD?

[fading sky]

Suddeb death

[undone flower]

Yes it happens to cast ww back to back few times

[rapid helm]

Ohh sudden death

so execute SD

[fading sky]

That fucks

[undone flower]

Free execute proc

[rapid helm]

No OF?

[fading sky]

Thats a cd

[undone flower]

That’s a cd you press it on cd ofc

[rapid helm]

Roger

[fading sky]

Bladestoem align with reck

[rapid helm]

So above 3 targets is WW spam unless a CD is up

[undone flower]

More talking about the main rotation

[fading sky]

Of press

[fading sky]

No look at prio

He send it

[rapid helm]

Ok cool, that's what I've been following

[undone flower]

The one without ww stacks is ST

[fading sky]

But how csb u ever loose ww stacks ib aoe

If u follow that

[undone flower]

You don’t

[rapid helm]

I think my main issue is just getting the keybinds to muscle memory so I don't have to think above that as much. I'm just getting overwhelmed when there's a lot going on with dodging mechanics etc, probably more down to just having to think about too many things at once.

[bitter palm]

shit looks like we are playing annihilator

[hardy cargo]

the biggest thing that helped me keep up with the spec is the ability to split my roation between both hands with mmo mouse + keyboard bindings

[undone flower]

Thx god I don’t do m+

[rapid helm]

Mind expanding on this? I've had a MMO mouse with 9 left buttons before, but that was too many. Too hard to hit the right one.

[fading sky]

U cpuld have of + bladedtorm + rwck on mousw

Not rotation no way

If u havent got tiny hands

[bitter palm]

xdd

raging blow nowhere to be seen

W design

[hardy cargo]

as an example 2- ww 3- execute 4- raging blow 5- bt 6- ramp
Anything over to bt/ramp I can press with my left hand easily enough instead of solely relying on my mmo mouse hand to press all the buttons

[undone flower]

I play slayer on Lura but I don’t have the joy to ww spam

[rapid helm]

6 rampage? Jeez for something you hit so often that's far away for me. You must have big hands

*wink

[fading sky]

On mouse

[hardy cargo]

no I use my mmo mouse

for it

[rapid helm]

Ohh

[fading sky]

Which is insane

Ramp is 2

On keyboars

Bt 1

Sd z

[hardy cargo]

charge is 1

[bitter palm]

charge 1

hoooly

[fading sky]

Charge is q

[hardy cargo]

step 1 get on the mop

[bitter palm]

bt 2 rb 3 ramp r

[hardy cargo]

mob

press charge

[rapid helm]

I use one of my 2 left mouse buttons on charge and the other for leap currently

[fading sky]

Should prob have rofation on q + r

[rapid helm]

Maybe I should get a 6 button mmo mouse

[hardy cargo]

I got a 12 button mmo mouse it owns

[hardy cargo]

im a freak I have all 6 movement keys bound

[rapid helm]

I had that but I couldn't press shit reliably

[fading sky]

And tiny racoon fingers

[rapid helm]

Am I the only one using w for move, a and d for strafe? Then q and e for main abilities? Am I boomer?

Obviously use the mouse for turning

holding right click

1/2/3/4 for other main abilities, r kicks, t less used abilities

shift modifiers

[night marlin]

A long time ago, when I didnt have the muscle memory using my 12 button mouse, I laid out my action bars to match my mouse buttons or keyboard buttons. As an example I had a brick of 12 buttons that corresponded and mirrored my mouse so if I ever got overwhelmed or didnt have the muscle memory I could look at my bars and figure out where I should press on my mouse or keyboard

[undone flower]

Most do that

[rapid helm]

Gotcha. I was starting to think of moving my binds in order of rotational importance, so I didn't really have to think about that aspect. Similar I guess

[night marlin]

I also had a buddy who didnt have a lot of buttons for their mouse and so they made their programmable buttons their modifier keys and just used keyboard. So shift was for all movement abilities, ctrl was for utilities, etc.

[fading sky]

I mean thats what i do

Shift + ctrl for shit

[night marlin]

Hitting ctrl shift and alt was a little harder for them since they were missing a pinky

[rapid helm]

lmao

[bitter palm]

i always have back pedal bound to s

[fading sky]

Size 13 hands

[bitter palm]

cause its useful for arms

[winter shoal]

I use the side of my palm for ctrl, thumb for alt

[undone flower]

I can’t ctrl

[bitter palm]

with dbts

[winter shoal]

Shift with no pinky is a gg tho

[fading sky]

Facts

[bitter palm]

what

wdym side of your palm

how do u do that

[hardy cargo]

now rebind keyboard turn

[rapid helm]

tilt hand left I guess lol

[undone flower]

That screen was weird

[bitter palm]

i use pinky for both shift and ctrl

[undone flower]

Pinky 🥀

[bitter palm]

keyboard turn

[winter shoal]

Pinky is on shift, externally rotate hand to press ctrl with side of palm

My fingers aren't fully extended + small hands

[fading sky]

My hand smashes everythin thrn

I use pinky for both shift and ctrl

[fickle stirrup]

Idk how y'all do it. I tried playing WoW with MnK and just couldn't. Shit feels awkward.

[undone flower]

MnK ?

[fickle stirrup]

Mouse and keyboard

[undone flower]

Oh you play on controller ?

[fading sky]

What do use? Controller?

[fickle stirrup]

Yea

[fading sky]

And u are how old?

[undone flower]

It takes some time

[fickle stirrup]

LOL

[fading sky]

Age matters

[fickle stirrup]

Nah I try and level without one to get used to it but it's just a me thing and I know that but I look at my bfs 12 button mouse and I can't understand how lmao

[undone flower]

I played strategy games on controller, I can’t judge

[fading sky]

I didnt have controllers when i staryed

Gamin

[hardy cargo]

12 button mmo mouse is the only way I can play this game

[undone flower]

Paper and pens, no colors and shit

[bitter palm]

fury chat be about anything but fury...

[fickle stirrup]

Id be too worried about accidentally pressing something

[fickle stirrup]

Insane

[winter shoal]

Fury chat is actually #general

[hardy cargo]

rlly bored sitting in lfg not getting invited to keys....

[bitter palm]

goat king mentioned

[terse ether]

I just got verification from doctors, all these years playing fury warrior, finally paying off. I got carpal tunnel syndrome. Where's my badge? 🤣

[bitter palm]

true

[earnest canyon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/water-spray-stop-1--k01KS5SF00GBDS6X16Z1VE2MTYW

[bitter palm]

(never looked in general)

[undone flower]

how dare you

[fading sky]

Wow is old

I am old

🤣

[undone flower]

it starts to get old for me too

[fading sky]

Only game id say is a lot better on controller is fifa

[undone flower]

when i can say i started to play 15 y ago

[fading sky]

Playing that on a keyboard isncursed

[odd crater]

Elden Ring is better on controller

Or any game like that

[wise cave]

Dark Souls games are controller-mandatory

[winter shoal]

Too many #protection references for me

[undone flower]

every souls game ever

[fading sky]

I dont play em

[odd crater]

Same with uh… armoured core

[wise cave]

Get gud

[fading sky]

If u need 2 aim

[wise cave]

AC is basically mechadark souls.

[fading sky]

I need a mouse ngl

[odd crater]

That’s why you just get AoE attacks and just pray ez

[undone flower]

y but classic RPGs you dont need to aim even if you have a gun

[wise cave]

That's basically how I play fury too. Whirlwind top dps.

[odd crater]

Bladestorm is just whirlwinds bigger brother

Hence why I play slayer

And saying weeeee every time I use it

[earnest canyon]

You need to learn

[fleet yarrow]

My 276 ring is simming better than my 289 ring.

Huh

[spare steppe]

It’s not that terrible with a keyboard mouse

[spare steppe]

What are the ring combos?

[fleet yarrow]

Think I found reason

I already had an absurd amount of crit

and I want mastery really bad

[lofty forge]

How do i sim embellishments on raidbots? when i press the + sign next to the weapon i cant choose anything.

do you need premium to do it?

[spare steppe]

Is this a crafted weapon you’re doing?

[lofty forge]

yes

[spare steppe]

Then you should be able to select options in the top gear simulator

[lofty forge]

i cant. when i press the + sign only option is "remove enchant"

[spare steppe]

Can you add a screenshot?

[misty edge]

thats not a crafted weapon my guy

[lofty forge]

just read it

ty tho

[spare steppe]

Glad we fixed it!

[young swan]

what does "multiple xan existences mentioned" mean 🤨

[onyx belfry]

hey guys anyone here who could help me with my log why i deal not enough dmg for high keys +20

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/z7wWxq9rXFGDh6pb?fight=10&type=damage-done&source=3

[lofty forge]

how far behind in aoe in m plus is slayer compared to thane?j

[ornate ibex]

true

people vastly overstate how bad kbm is for souls games

[void cosmos]

Tell group pull more mobs

[onyx belfry]

there were alot :/ i did somethin wrong i guess

[abstract tulip]

^what exactly makes devourers desirable for keys

havent pugged a single good one

[quasi fractal]

When you find the good one

Theyre playing a separate game

4 devours into void laser into collapsing star

Rinse repeat

800k dps

Usually bad devourers is a tank gap though, you have to chainpull to infinity so they keep meta up.

[marble pilot]

Good ones also are able to have a meta ready to go within a second or two of a boss fight/large pull starting and can burst instantly.
It really is a spec that does either tank damage if you are bad at it or insane dps if you are good at it

No in between at all

[quasi fractal]

Big pull merchants

[marble pilot]

IMO the spec with a super simple rotation. Like brain dead simple rotatation is somehow one of the highest floors and a fairly high ceiling as well

You would think the floor to playing the spec would be low with how simple it is. But it is deceptively hard to do it well every time

[quasi fractal]

Its like fire mage but you can stay in combustion forever

If you're good

[abstract tulip]

oh okay so in warrior terms its the slayer who doesnt keep iww stacks up

[quasi fractal]

Imagine if recklessness never ended as long as you kept hitting buttons

And they removed the meat cleaver cap

Its like that

[abstract tulip]

ah thats why it synergizes so well with brewmasters and unholies

[quasi fractal]

Walking nuclear bomb

[marble pilot]

Hard to put it in warrior terms. We do different things.
But yeah the bad devourers are like playing with a thane that doesnt have improved ww.

Im not good enough at logs to see how gulf between good and bad players. I wonder what the widest gap specs are right now. Id guess devourer is near the top though

[undone flower]

none are the original xan

[young swan]

oh i forgot about the other xan

[quasi fractal]

Looks like Destro, Assa, and Fire have bigger variances than Devourer off a glance.

Enhance as well

[marble pilot]

I dunno how to read that. Am I looking at what goes the further left. Or just the widest spread

[quasi fractal]

Just the widest spread

Left most is the worst recorded performance

Far right dot is the highest

[marble pilot]

And thats the worst/best that did complete still right?

Be nice if we could line em up and actually see that spread. Hard to judge lines that are not lined up

[undone flower]

others*

at least 3

[quasi fractal]

I would imagine it is completes that are ranked. But yeah they just rank them by the average middle bar performance.

But thats everyone that has logged the last two weeks at every key level

So theres definitely some variance in player skill

[marble pilot]

What would we say is the highest keys that bad players can still complete? 10s or 12s? Kinda hard to say and based on personal perception

[quasi fractal]

If you sort by 15s the average dps of all classes is basically in the top 90% of their aggregate lines.

For this season though? Maybe like 12s, though ive seen some real stinkers in 14s

[marble pilot]

Man destro lock is hurting huh

[quasi fractal]

Yeah even their top end is pretty close to the bottom

We're doing pretty well in 15+ though

[marble pilot]

Yeah the high end stuff makes me debate learning arms. But meh I cant be bothered to do it. I have way more fun playing fury. And im not a high end pusher anyway. Im chilling in the 14ish range right now

[undone quartz]

I'm not great and 16s aren't high but i am able to knock those out on my trek to 3400 for that dang mount

[quasi fractal]

We definitely drop further once you look at 19+.

But at least we never die

[marble pilot]

Yeah I havnt felt a real challenge yet at 14. But I just dont have the same drive for m+ that others do. Dungeons have always been a chore for me. I never really did above 12s cause that is max rewards. This is the first season ive pushed at all.

And even then that was only this last week that I went from 12s to pushing a little and went from 12-14 without issue. Feels basically the same

[undone quartz]

I dig it. I play Thane personally but i am noticing EVERYONE is migrating to slayer and i feel like i do more dmg as Thane. Albeit more sustained and less bursty

[languid willow]

I’ve pushed 3940 as fury but I can definitely tell it’s starting to slow down unless you ONLY run phys comp

[undone quartz]

was thane used to get there or was it slayer things buddy?

[marble pilot]

I havnt played slayer much at all this season. I could try it though. Played it all last season though. its been nice playing thane for this one

Honestly I prefer when we have Slayer for raid and Thane for m+ but I get not everyone like that or wants it

[honest tundra]

yeah

[languid willow]

I swapped to slayer

[marble pilot]

Last season was slayer for everything. This season is thane for everything.
guess we see what happens next tier.

[languid willow]

The prio dmg and st

Means more

At higher keys

[honest tundra]

that could be... but I thought it's standard to bench against patchwerk

at least patchwerk is a controlled variable

[quasi fractal]

Makes sense, i haven't felt a crazy difference in overall. But its definitely better ST.

[languid willow]

You can still play thane, I do in seat until the last boss then I swap slayer during rp

[marble pilot]

Honestly I might try a caster next tier if they do all split cleave fights again. Exaggerating a little but this tier has felt pretty bad.

[languid willow]

Of last boss

[quasi fractal]

Do they let you swap talents in dungeons now? I thought you were locked.

[languid willow]

I zone out

Swap

Then zone back in

[marble pilot]

You got to zone out. You have a 1 minute timer to do it

At least it used to be 1 minute

[honest tundra]

oh interesting observation, why is that?

[languid willow]

St means much more

On that last boss

[quasi fractal]

Didn't realize the RP was so long you could zone out and still make it damn

[languid willow]

And thane is less than slayer

[marble pilot]

Its rarely useful tech though. Cause not many dungeons go back to the entrance for a fast swap

[languid willow]

I just save my port

Hearth then port

And go back in

[quasi fractal]

Makes sense

[sly merlin]

can’t u just port n not hearth and be right outside anyways

[digital steeple]

whats the mastery "cap" ? 1k ?

It says im above target at 48% atm

[warm crag]

what does above target mean

[modest condor]

sounds like something an addon made up

there is no cap for anything

[warm crag]

there isnt any "caps" you should care about you just sim with the gear you have and the gear you can get in top gears and droptimizers

[warm crag]

okay what about the critical strike rating. what if it hits 100%.

[modest condor]

🔨

[digital steeple]

as a "cap" i mean where we get diminishing returns on a stat

i do sim always, just wanted to check if there is a number we are going after

[daring laurel]

whatever the funny robot tells you

[proud oar]

Does wowanalyzer work properly for fury?

[smoky vale]

yes

but keep in mind it is mainly meant for single targwt

[red thorn]

whats best way to sim for the 3 pallies as both fury and arms?

[slim coral]

I think they mean DR

[undone flower]

there is no number we are going after, you are going after the best gear combination **YOU **can get

[dense elbow]

I am going for 1.1k of all stats

[unkempt grotto]

10 quick tips for a one-trick fury trying Arms for M-Paladins?

[olive wraith]

Ask in arms chat

[unkempt grotto]

I don't trust those guys, theyre weird.

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral very dumb

[slim coral]

[jolly wind]

do u ever use rb in aoe to consume ww stacks or do u just spam ww when u dont have bt or ramp or exe to press?

basically do u ever preee rb in aoe?

[sudden tusk]

check if im banned in smorbsmish chat. for somereason the chat box dont work

[hot shell]

Not CURRENTLY is the keyword

[sullen dove]

1 more strike though

[tranquil sentinel]

Alright hear me out

What of rampage could extend our enrage. Instead of refreshing it.

Starts at 5 every new rampage adds 5 more seconds of enrage

Caps at like 25 seconds to prevent shenanagins

[sullen dove]

so make it 100% uptime instead of 97% uptime

wont say no

[tranquil sentinel]

more like

I want to smash rampage and not always sit at 100ish rage

• im stupid pushing that reck butten makes me go feral

empty rage bar fill back up empty rage bar

rather then feeling like my bladder is half full in cds

one proc and my rage is overcapped

and the uptimes already super high anyway its starting to feel like inquisition to me, where its just a maintenance buff. Maybe its always been that way and im just slow

[undone flower]

It is that way since a while yes

[tranquil sentinel]

nod nod i guess ive just never really thought of our enrage as anything past entirly passive

just kinda fell to the back of my mind till recently

been blessed on fury, honestly has a really good mouthfeel

just wish they would nix rb

[unkempt grotto]

Its momentum, makes you wanna keep go go go

[tranquil sentinel]

Give all the bufffs to bt, ww filler.

oohh! or, Rb off gcd like hs

Ye old kidney punch between swings

Idk they say the customer is good at finding problems and bad at finding solutions! im sure blizz is also lamenting with this

Im probably also winging about nothing, comoon next tier set let every rampage cast ww/tclap 2 set

Shadowlands gave me a fucking taste that i cant forget!

[knotty crag]

Disable 7tv

[sudden tusk]

yeah i did

idk why it bricks

[knotty crag]

One side updates and bricks stuff

Need a 5% proc buff for slayers strike can get so unlucky with these procs

[stoic loom]

6/8 resil 20s with good logs and cant get an invite to a key

fury life is rough

[knotty crag]

I have a mage friend having the same issue, has to push his own key 95% of the time

[stoic loom]

rather quit than spend 99% of my playtime leveling homework keys

[knotty crag]

Start making friends with classes that go in a phys comp

[stoic loom]

Most people just insta leave after the key gets timed anyway

I've added a few people but then we sorta just never play again

[tulip bolt]

honestly im really hoping the next tier is good to us, we're not even considered for a lot of dungeons anymore and frankly raids can survive without us sadly 🥲

[stoic loom]

ye furys not actually been good in a while

[tulip bolt]

idk why blizzard hates us

[olive wraith]

What’s “a while”

[stoic loom]

guess tww s3 was ok

[olive wraith]

We’re good in keys right now lol

[tulip bolt]

compared to legion warriors? thats a VERY long time

[olive wraith]

I mean what do you consider good

[stoic loom]

unfortunately thats not the community perception

[tulip bolt]

good but unfortunately not a "meta spec" so gl getting invites

[olive wraith]

So same as normal

Okay

[tulip bolt]

exactly

like we just need to be a little more powerful

im a zug zug smash warr, let my smash hit hard

[olive wraith]

So what you want is to be meta

[tulip bolt]

idc about meta tbh

but how come frost mages have uncapped aoe and we've always been capped

[stoic loom]

frost mage not the best example for that argument

[tulip bolt]

like have you seen how powerful splinter is?

[stoic loom]

theyre not doing too hot in keys either

[tulip bolt]

shatter*

[olive wraith]

Feral has had uncapped for ages

[tulip bolt]

maybe i cant say for sure, but im seeing everyone pull great numbers in raids and warriors are always bottom

[olive wraith]

Bm too

[tulip bolt]

exactly

why do we need a cap? xD

[sage python]

is brutal finish ever worth over culling?

[olive wraith]

No

[olive wraith]

Caps aren’t inherently bad imo

[stoic loom]

i wouldnt even have a problem with the cap if we were the goats at 5 target damage

or boss dps

[tulip bolt]

yea i agree with this, at least up our single target

dont make us kings of M+ or something but at least let us make a bigger impact

[olive wraith]

Again, we’re pretty good right now for keys

[tulip bolt]

we have bleeds but they're such a small % of the dmg its like theyre not even there

[tulip bolt]

yea i dont mean keys tbh, i meant in raids

[olive wraith]

Weren’t we pretty good all last expac

[stoic loom]

no

[tulip bolt]

but something is needed to at least change the community opinion, we dont get invited to keys which is so bad

[olive wraith]

Community opinion cares to much for tier lists and meta classes

[tulip bolt]

havent been good since BFA in my opinion, and even then it was nothing compared to legion

[olive wraith]

That’s never changing

[olive wraith]

I’d disagree but ok

[tulip bolt]

not sure if you played legion, but we were the ONLY meta spec

every raid wanted at least 2 warriors

[odd crater]

I still am desired. It might just be for battle shout, but whatever

[olive wraith]

So you only care about being meta?

[stoic loom]

probably the last time we had a moment of glory in execute

[tulip bolt]

IKR our execute actually HURT

[tulip bolt]

no, but as you said being meta is the only thing the community cares about so i just wanna be needed

dont make us top dps

[night marlin]

Still waiting for condemn back

[tulip bolt]

just good enough

[stoic loom]

dont care about being meta

but i do care about us being in a good enough spot that we get considered

[tulip bolt]

exactly

and not just for shout

[olive wraith]

To be desired by community you need to be meta

For the most part

[stoic loom]

im 6/8 resil 20s with 98 mythic logs and i literally have spent the last 1h30 not getting invited to one single key

even to physical comps where warrior would be the ideal pick

[tulip bolt]

well ok but again i dont mind being at least close to meta

we're BOTTOM

[olive wraith]

Then swap specs?

We’re far from the bottom

[tulip bolt]

going to arms isnt gonna fix the issue

[olive wraith]

We’re mid at worst (keys)

[stoic loom]

so im not allowed to want my spec to actually be desired xd? just reroll 4head

[olive wraith]

If you care that much about invites yes

[tulip bolt]

then yea i do wanna be a meta

we havent been for a long time

[odd crater]

Where are you guys struggling to get invites? I've been hitting 15+ keys, M+ Raids without issues getting invites

[olive wraith]

If you want to play your fave spec you gotta deal with the pros and cons

[tulip bolt]

enough is enough with the mages and dks

[odd crater]

And that's as Slayer, not Thane

[tulip bolt]

im 3.1k rio and i dont get invited to 13's xD

6/9M

[stoic loom]

first off you're talking about +15 keys, second nobody is struggling to get invites to mythic raiding, third nobody is checking if ure player slayer or thane

[odd crater]

3.2k, 3/9M, seems weird but I hope ya'll get groups

[odd crater]

Go be mad cause bad elsewhere

[stoic loom]

yeah thats not even in the same ballpark as pugging 20s

[stoic loom]

xd you might've just exposed urself lil bro

[odd crater]

Where, anywhere, in the last 15min of convo here did it say 20's

[stoic loom]

right here

its ok u already exposed ur iq i didnt expect you to read that

[odd crater]

Your right, I didn't read that

[tulip bolt]

ay ay chill, we aint fighting

[olive wraith]

Atp just run your own keys

[tulip bolt]

we're all warrs, its not a bad thing to want our class to be better

remember that lads

[tulip bolt]

oh i am, only 15's ive run are my own xD

[lusty jungle]

tbh we should be ragebaiting eachother, its what keeps us going

[tranquil sentinel]

Warrior very good

Specially with the tuning done, im quite enjoing it currently, and look forward to whatever blizzard cooks up next

i love that we have a dead node in our Hero tallent, less to have to ballance, makes it easier for deves to focus on our problematic nodes

[olive wraith]

What’s the dead apex?

[tulip bolt]

im not saying we're absolute trash, just not a very high performer compared to everyone else

I am very aware that not a single class exists that can't run a +19, im just saying with so much accessibility the community raises their standards and we're not meeting that

ergo, we need to be a little better

[tranquil sentinel]

Hero tallent im stupid

[olive wraith]

What’s the dead hero talent

[tranquil sentinel]

Thane has a stormbolt/intercept node thats umm

useable?

[olive wraith]

It is ya

[tulip bolt]

oh that xD

[tranquil sentinel]

to bad i just never use it

[tulip bolt]

yea forgot that exists tbh

[tranquil sentinel]

its like super heroic throw if u remember

I miss 12 second cd super throw

The funniest fucking dragonflight node ever

cleaved, pulled mobs u where not in combat with all the time

Couldent be used in melee ranged

[storm rune]

oh the chain lightning throw

[tranquil sentinel]

yargers

[olive wraith]

Triple storm bolt is less grief this expac

[tulip bolt]

triple? isnt it double?

[tranquil sentinel]

God really does gives its funniest clowns its silliest nodes

Triple

i just send swave or dont tallent

[olive wraith]

Maybe you right

Either way. Not our worst talent

[tulip bolt]

i mean now in midnight

[tranquil sentinel]

oh yeah its just a random dead one

[tulip bolt]

its double no?

[tranquil sentinel]

maybe it should be 8 targets

[storm rune]

still feels like a dead talent that actively nerfs the stun

[tranquil sentinel]

yeah i love making my stun cd longer

discount aoe hoj

[storm rune]

like extra cd for a chance to stun the 1 in 15 other mobs casting

[tranquil sentinel]

Hear me out, it has a target cap of 12, bu t if u use it in single all 12 go into one targets balls

[tulip bolt]

yes thats totally not broken at all

@blizz add that rn

tweet em

[tranquil sentinel]

or what if it did like a little aoe clap

and still had the target cap of 12

[storm rune]

call it Storm Balls

[tranquil sentinel]

so like 12 sonic booms to the balls

imagine the fucking sound effect

shpffftshpffftshpffftshpffftshpffft

[storm rune]

Fist of Fury+Johnny Cage

[tulip bolt]

i just miss the ye ol casting execute increases the dmg of execute by 1-2% (i dont remember)

just this one feature alone

is enough for me

[tranquil sentinel]

i wish bshout was stronger and fury damage was lower, id spend 31 points to buff bshould by 3000% and make it effect magic damag3e

poor mans evoker

[tulip bolt]

back then holy shit it was always a warrior ending the boss's life, TRUE EXECUTE

[stoic loom]

then they take a prot warrior and fury and arms become unplayable

i like it

[tulip bolt]

actual finishing blow

[tranquil sentinel]

Whats diffrent

[tulip bolt]

like i had victory blow after a boss died

[tranquil sentinel]

all jokes aside atleast brother prot has a spot

No i agree, i do wish executes profile was good again.

[storm rune]

nahhh, lowroll and suddenly it's "oops you got all your SD procs for the next minute in 3 second, sorry about your buff uptime"

[stoic loom]

in raids

also cooked in keys kekw

[tulip bolt]

thats true, our prot boys are actually viable now xD

[storm rune]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[tranquil sentinel]

I dont mind if we do 0 damage from 100-80 but let me do an entire raids damage from 20-0

But blizz fucking hates execute profiles cause its super strong for race

bring back the telephone call for the first 5 minutes of the fight and end at top dps meme machine

[stoic loom]

they only hate it if its where warrior's good

dps warrior not allowed to be good

like how fury got fucking BRICKED in tww s1 cos we were good at dealign with ansurek adds

[tulip bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[stoic loom]

but its fine when something like ele shaman completely destroys beloren or lura

[tranquil sentinel]

It tends to be that way in pvp 2 dont worry

[stoic loom]

i know which is why i havent queued arena since dragonflight lol

[tulip bolt]

someone there really hates us, maybe a furry

[stoic loom]

still funny going to the arena ladder and seeing 60 mages in top 100 and 1 warrior tho

and then you look at the notes and theres a warrior nerf in there

[lusty jungle]

Give us back sunder armor

[earnest canyon]

I had the clap once.

[tulip bolt]

i think they just want people playing ranged specs for some reason

[tranquil sentinel]

free aoe damage

[tulip bolt]

whatever the real reason maybe, but they do

i refuse to main anything other than warr, i quit before and ill do it again if they keep screwing us

[stoic loom]

tbh at the end of the day kalatath isnt even wrong

fury is decent enough

the problem is community perception

[tulip bolt]

they give us the options of classes, when we find one we enjoy they nerf it to the ground

[stoic loom]

they'll take a monkey on dk before taking a gamer on warrior

[tulip bolt]

exactly

bro i had to watch a pug take a 3rd tank JUST to have a dk to mass grip on mythic dragons

make that make sense

bro was doing nothing but using grasp

and even then he failed at it a lot

[tranquil sentinel]

its me, im the one giving the bad perception! my bad

[tulip bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[winter shoal]

I did this for my guild's alt raid

I had like 15 talents allocated but one of them was gorefiends so we vibe

[tulip bolt]

see its proving freestyling's point exactly

not implying you're a monkey tho ❤️

[tranquil sentinel]

atleast for my skill level i find myself plenty viable, and plenty stupid

i think its a weird graph where its like if ur super duper low end, ur kinda fucked and if ur super duper high end ur kinda fucked but if ur anywhere else ur gaming

Just do 12s with peoples alts and fucking crank like a crudgle on crack

[tulip bolt]

this ^

[tulip bolt]

i already do but i wanna push high keys too man 🥲

[tranquil sentinel]

LIke look at this

[tulip bolt]

im just pushing my own key rn

[tranquil sentinel]

You know blizz is gunna look at this and nerf us again

(my bad)

[stoic loom]

were those people 120 ilvl?

[tranquil sentinel]

uuuh

[stoic loom]

how does that even happen

[tranquil sentinel]

u dont wanna know

hey its fine everyones playing the game at there own level

[tulip bolt]

they better not, cause wtf devour dh doing then??? and unholy dk???

[tranquil sentinel]

and it got cleared so we are all happy

[tulip bolt]

ik we're strong in keys

i have the dmg meters to prove it as well but i care a lot more about raids tbh

[tranquil sentinel]

oh

mhn could always do normal carriest :3

5 man a 30 man group

[tulip bolt]

like check this

its only a +10 from like 3 or 4 weeks ago

m+ we're fine

raids...

yea lets just say id bench myself

[stoic loom]

i say this in the least toxic way possible

but doing +10s with pugs is so irrelevant

in reality the 20 windrunner i did last night i did the same dps as the dk except i got a 92 log and he got a 47

[tulip bolt]

i have a higher key

maybe the 10 wasnt the best example

[stoic loom]

beating someone doing 70k dps in a key is w/e

ye but it doesnt matter if its a higher key

linking a damage meter doesnt do anything

if u look at the log that person ure beating will just be doing a grey parse and ure not

so ofc u'll be higher

[tulip bolt]

yea

but thats the issue

the skill ceiling for them is high, because the possibility is high

[tranquil sentinel]

/shrug well yeah ur in a 20

your going to the end of the spectrum

right at the edge of a few more levels and its back to unplayable for u

I am comfortably sitting on my shit throne!

[tulip bolt]

shit throne xD

this is a better example

[hot shell]

Sorry someone gimme a tldr who are we laughing at

[tranquil sentinel]

Were just yappin

[tulip bolt]

tho it was longer ago

[stoic loom]

how is that a better example tho xd the point still stands

[tranquil sentinel]

Oldhold

[tulip bolt]

nah just complaining about fury

[stoic loom]

except this time ure linking a damage meter of u beating 2 specs that also are fairly bad

isnt fire like bottom at everything right now

[tranquil sentinel]

unchold?

[hot shell]

Alr lets do this.
Fury has the worst dmg profile and needs a rework

[stoic loom]

correct

[tranquil sentinel]

Woah woah woah

[tulip bolt]

THANK YOU!!

[stoic loom]

im SO fucking bored of having the most flat damage profile in the game

[tranquil sentinel]

I thought we where rage baiting

[tulip bolt]

this guy gets it

[tranquil sentinel]

Were supposed to be telling the truth

[candid falcon]

bring back 100% crit recklessness

[stoic loom]

idk if we'll ever have burst as long as anger management is a thing

[hot shell]

But.. but... it is the truth

[tulip bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

this gif exists for a reason

[tranquil sentinel]

Sorry i ment we where not

[tulip bolt]

save it

use it

make sure blizz sees it

[tranquil sentinel]

But yeah i do wish we had burst

i dont mind doing lower damage outside of it

[hot shell]

If fury had something like assa rogue as in gain %str per enemy with a bleed on it THEN we can start talking

But until then fury profile is crap

[spare steppe]

It could be worse

[tulip bolt]

#makeexecutematteragain

[tranquil sentinel]

it is funny how all the cd reduction we get is sometimes wasted cause u wanna hold for adds or something

[spare steppe]

It could be s2 tww

[storm rune]

They should make avatar cast odyns fury, and recklessness cast avatar

[tranquil sentinel]

Oh no

NOT AGAIN

They should dump of and reck

Just avatar

[stoic loom]

absolutely not

[tranquil sentinel]

if recks just gunna be a perma buff cut it

[stoic loom]

reck is the mst fun thing about fury

[tulip bolt]

dont touch reck

wdym

[tranquil sentinel]

u want burst right

[tulip bolt]

its the best thing we have

[tranquil sentinel]

we got to touch reck

somethings got to go so i can have more power in my other buttens

[stoic loom]

ye so buff reck and nerf anger management lol

[tranquil sentinel]

i vote rb

that 2

[spare steppe]

They should make odyn’s fury give WW stacks again

[tranquil sentinel]

am should be cut

[tulip bolt]

the entire problem gets solved if we just make execute a button thats pressable again xD

[tranquil sentinel]

They cant balance it

[tulip bolt]

like you can completely skip it

and it doesnt affect you

[tranquil sentinel]

make reck a 5 min cd

[hot shell]

Rework apex, remove OF is a good start

[haughty zephyr]

Anyone using Exboss addon? Is there a profile for english linked anywhere?

[tranquil sentinel]

Push it to kill everything around u

atomic bomb butten

I should push it and feel my gfx card start to fuse with my motherboard

[hot shell]

Counter Argument - make bladestorm like it was in wrath instead

[tranquil sentinel]

yeah but then thane wants something 2

[tulip bolt]

nooo OF is so much fun

why remove anything BUT anger management?

[tranquil sentinel]

im cool with whatever but to gain power we must give something

[hot shell]

Youre right. Delete thane
2 Button rotation for 30s... fun. I never asked to be a BM

[tranquil sentinel]

true

i mean i like it

bt ww cleave

Bread and fucking butter

[tulip bolt]

they already took slash tho

give us less buttons so we can be an even bigger joke?

[storm rune]

idk what the joke even is at this point, what spec isn't a 2 button rotation?

[hot shell]

I want more USEFUL buttons

[hot shell]

Outlaw

Enhancement

[sullen dove]

arms

[tulip bolt]

fury

we have more buttons, they're just situational

[sullen dove]

ehh fury kinda..

[hot shell]

Arcane mage

[storm rune]

yeah but like, thats all the classes, apply your dots then spam your builder/spenders, swap out 1 button from each depending on aoe or st

[hot shell]

Fury is one of the easy specs on the list, not gonna cope that - but its damage profile is soooo unsatisfying currently

[tulip bolt]

i just think blizzard is clowning on warrs at this point just for the love of the game

[tulip bolt]

exactly, theres nothing wrong with less buttons, they literally added one button rotation i mean cmon

but make the damn spec feel like a proper warrior again

class fantasy, screwed

how am i a bloodthirsty warrior and i cant even execute my foes

[hot shell]

Uuuh hard opinion on the onenbutton. Thats something you bind and use when watching netflix and running old content. If you use it to "progress" you should switch your class

[spare steppe]

Fury has decisions that give complexity

[tulip bolt]

how am i a beast on the battlefield but my aoe is capped???

[spare steppe]

Like yes it’s easy but there are decisions

[hot shell]

Uuuuhhh....

[tranquil sentinel]

I think my parse goes up when i use it lol

[tulip bolt]

i should be taking on ARMIES

[hot shell]

What decisions are u talking about

[tranquil sentinel]

maybe we move execute to arms only, fury can have more focuse on bt and rb

[hot shell]

Which ability press is not a "eh whatever ill have it back in 15s"

[spare steppe]

It’s minor optimization but what to press when because they’re all available

[hot shell]

Thats.. all classes

[tulip bolt]

the choice to prioritize bloodbath over thunderblast in some aoe scenarios

[hot shell]

Fury lacks the importance of cooldowns. It just doesnt have significant high damage cooldowns

[storm rune]

fury without execute would feel wrong

[tulip bolt]

like less than 3 targets

[spare steppe]

Most classes don’t have multiple generators

[earnest canyon]

maybe fury is too angry to execute and just flails around through sheer rage, so cant do execute and thats just for arms

[tulip bolt]

ew no

[hot shell]

Name 3

[tulip bolt]

frost mage

[spare steppe]

Raging blow blood thirst and execute?

Rogue?

[hot shell]

3 classes

[storm rune]

execute is like fury getting bloodlust, they know the bbeg is weak and it drives them on, arms shouldn't have execute because they're more disciplined

[tulip bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/offended-agree-gif-18718132

[hot shell]

Youre saying rogue has ONE combo point generator?

[spare steppe]

I’m saying rogue has very clear situations for generators

[tulip bolt]

but the fact of the matter is

[spare steppe]

Whereas warrior generators aren’t simple “am I in aoe or am I in single target”

[tulip bolt]

critcake got benched on mythic lura during prog, that should say something about warriors xD

[hot shell]

No. You said most classes dont have multiple generators

[spare steppe]

And my thought is multiple >= 3

But that’s arguing semantics of phrasing

[storm rune]

Just looking at a top log, in ST rogue spams pistol shot followed by sinister strike, and then swaps SS for blade flurry in aoe

[tranquil sentinel]

if i roll tauren does that mean i never have to tallent shockwave and get a tallent point back

/thinking

[hot shell]

Isnt stomp like... 3m cd

[storm rune]

#bringbacktaurenplainstriding

[tranquil sentinel]

#downonallfours

Alright real question

What song increases ur dps

Everyone knows the right banger=10% dps inc

[modest condor]

aqua - barbie girl

[tranquil sentinel]

Shit is a banger work out vid ngl

[storm rune]

Jack Johnson - Upside Down

Followed by Bubbly Toes

[earnest canyon]

Elton John - Candle in the Wind

[olive wraith]

What’s up -4 non blondes

10 hour loop

[storm rune]

skeletor version?

[olive wraith]

Absolutely

[upbeat creek]

wesley willis - rock n roll McDonald’s

[tranquil sentinel]

Soil work - distance

[odd crater]

certified banger

[manic tapir]

You guys just sending slayer in pit or going thane?

[wise wren]

how much dps should i be doing in M+ dungeons at 286 ilvl

[winter shoal]

Depends on the dungeon, group comp, route, etc

[brittle crow]

paladins down after 36 pulls

i think thats actually kinda not terrible?

[summer quail]

that's pretty decent i think. now time for crown, i hope you have a decent amount of melees(for your sake)

[brittle crow]

our core group is 7/7 i think

melee/ranged

[summer quail]

we had 3 melee on our kill and i have never had such a bad time. obelisk simulator

[junior crag]

How bad is it to send bladestorm without reck? And vise versa, i mean u cant hold cds for long right ?

[storm rune]

its pretty vibe based

but yeah you dont wanna hold shit and lose CDR

[junior crag]

Yeye thougt as much i hold if pack is dying but thats about it

[storm rune]

yeah or like, BS is about to come up and you have 20s left on reck's CD, with CDR its basically a couple GCDs until reck is up so may as well hold

[junior crag]

Yea

Thanks for input

[vale solar]

slayer all the time

[manic tapir]

yeah same cba to switch

[floral arrow]

hello guys!! how much crit we need at fury thane build?

[hoary tartan]

How do you guys deal with root on caverns?

[spare flame]

you kick the enemy

[hoary tartan]

on mini

[junior crag]

Somone said u can charge out of it but i think they trolling

[hardy cargo]

u do in fact charge out of it

this naturally

[sudden tusk]

if you are slayer the hero talent lets to remove those effects every 30 seconds

[hardy cargo]

assumes you are playing slayer

[sudden tusk]

cant do it as thane or colossus

[hardy cargo]

does zerker rage work on it? I actually dunno that one I am a slayer 1 trick

[sudden tusk]

Fearless is pretty good

allows you to get rid of slows that deal damage like the chains in Seat or the circle debuffs in NPX

[spare flame]

also POS has a nasty slow+dot that you can fearless out of

[junior crag]

Ah ok yea i tried it as thane, switched to slayer recently. Good to know

[olive wraith]

However much sims say

[tight flax]

I kick my PC, but it didn't work