#fury

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burnt oxide
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and they are not better than my crafted ones currently

summer bluff
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my next roll I will get boots 😄

restive ridge
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Guys quick question, on AOE do we prio BT/bb or rampage? (I usually play arms)

burnt oxide
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rampage on 100 or if enrage runs out

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otherwise bt/bb

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for thane

restive ridge
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I play slayer Execute

burnt oxide
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then you prio exe and rampage

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same logic as above with bt tho

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ramp is higher in slayer tho

restive ridge
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Yeah , I saw that Guide, thank you. I was just wondering if there are some nuances

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Slayer fury is so fun

candid oasis
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one question, I dont see rend in rotation, but I see in talent build rend is selected in warrior tree, am I missing something? is it auto cast or something?

burnt oxide
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It is cast by whirlwind

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Or by thunderclap if thane

candid oasis
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aha

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ok, thanks

turbid spruce
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Theres some addon that can track enrage bar without bugs (Turning in zero constantly like arcui)? Or i need to use blizzard bars?

spice cipher
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Hello simple question guys, is it better to upgrade 298 beloren trinket or vorasius' one ?

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And so, why?

summer bluff
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what does sim say?

spice cipher
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Same same

burnt oxide
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the addons use the information provided by that, so they will all bug out aswell

turbid spruce
burnt oxide
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yup, enrage just vanishes on occasion

turbid spruce
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I hate blizzard

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Thanks for info

burnt oxide
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likely vorasius

spice cipher
burnt oxide
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is vorasius mythic?

spice cipher
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Yes both

burnt oxide
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then gaze and vorasius

spice cipher
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Why ?

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Just so i understand the logic

burnt oxide
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sim them and you will see it

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vorasius and beloren are kinda close tho

spice cipher
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Ok thanks

sour pollen
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does this remove chains in sot for example ?

burnt oxide
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Yes

sour pollen
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ah nice now i feel like a retrd for not using it sooner

lost reef
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It doesnt free you from gargoyle

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or sacrfice in mc

tender seal
warm crag
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it does specify slows ye

lost reef
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Holy shit am i stupid

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it removes

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the thing

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in mt

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really

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?

tender seal
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not the circle, but the dot you get afterwards

lost reef
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Oh

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I mean still good i did 20s before i learned that...

tender seal
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you get a quite nasty dot when someone clears

lost reef
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Thank you very much

tender seal
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someone should make a spreadsheat tbh 😄

lost reef
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I agre

tender seal
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compareable to the spellreflect sheet

hard nacelle
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What am I doing wrong, can anyone help me?

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i have hero [Omission of Light] & [Occlusion of Void]

alpine palm
radiant plank
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idk reck pot

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fucking you over

alpine palm
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That's what I was thinking

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Also the sim you linked and the image you posted differ

hard nacelle
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Rightnow

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no pot no flask

alpine palm
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This is what I see when following the link. This is with you wearing both Omission of light and Occlusion of void

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Which looks normal to me

hard nacelle
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I have both light & void hero rings but the mythic rings are showing negative DPS at the bottom of the page

weak condor
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looks bugged. Try to do the sim again with the other potion

alpine palm
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You can ignore that.

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Like Jolly said, could be a bug or some simcraft peculiarity.

alpine palm
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I wanna say that'd be the change in DPS if the rings were 1/6 Myth, but going from 1/6 to 6/6 on either of those rings won't make a 2% diff

radiant plank
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heres a sim with main stat pot

alpine palm
radiant plank
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Your haste is too close to mastery so it reck pots haste which is dogshit

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so it tries to get rid of your haste

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to guarantee mastery proc

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play with lights potential and smile on

alpine palm
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& Levrone is the goat 💪

olive wraith
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We love main stat pot

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So much easier keks

hard nacelle
brittle crow
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sad news gamers

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by doctors orders i can no longer game, they're giving me prescription antiperspirant

turbid spruce
candid falcon
dusky onyx
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Hi gamers; in an AoE m+ pull, on slayer, i'm feeling a little unsure about my in-reck prio. I'm sopmetimes in a situation where i have an execute proc, i've got BT up, i'm kinda close to rage cap, what does my priority list become in this situation? Do i care more about the execute than overcapping my rage, etc?

2nd question; do i care about aligning my bladestorm with reck, or do i just bladestorm on cd?

brittle crow
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hold bladestorm for reck, dont hold reck for bladestorm

dusky onyx
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huge okay

brittle crow
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110 rage is ur "kinda close to rage cap" limit

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always ramp if ur above 110 (and whirlwind is up)

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but during cds you're only pressing execute to spend sudden death procs

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otherwise bloodthirst

dusky onyx
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ok so 110> always ramp, if WW is not up i WW first?

brittle crow
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ww always ur #1 priority

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u never press anything without it

dusky onyx
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and sudden death vs BT?

brittle crow
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sudden death is prio followed by rampage then bloodbath then whirlwind (for damage)

dusky onyx
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okay so as long as im <110 i sudden then ramp then bt

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h u g e

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thank you so much for the assistance <33

brittle crow
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known most helpful user in skyhold

dense elbow
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Haaaaaah

weak condor
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why is bt higher prio than execute without SD-proc?

brittle crow
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good q, i thought execute did more damage myself

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but im not one to question the powers that be

dusky onyx
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lowkey bt just cranks

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i imagine its that simple

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whereas sudden death has alot of proc based values

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but i am also clueless 🙏

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i follow the funny list that makes my damage go up

dense elbow
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I just press exe when it shines

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I am happy and content

brittle crow
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i just press exe but apparently im wrong..

dense elbow
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Nah, we are right

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The list is wrong

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Trust

frank dawn
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tfw you just yolo press execute and somehow have no executioner stacks and get sad that bladestorm cooldown didn't chunk

brittle crow
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I KNEW i wasnt delulu

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archi lied to me

silver stirrup
brittle crow
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the sacred texts

silver stirrup
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Ah ty

lofty seal
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is it because sudden death also llowers the CD of bladestorm

olive wraith
burnt oxide
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Well executes modifier in low health is being usable

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So that checks out

olive wraith
brittle crow
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that explains everything

olive wraith
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Bt pretty chonky in midnight

sullen dove
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yea VC helps a bit but non sd exe isnt as crazy giga insane as sd exe

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still pretty good but the free turbo buffed reap and like 12 other things is why sudden death very epic and cool

bitter palm
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mickey mouse fury execute vs humble arms execute

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they need to give us manaforge 2pc man

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it would make slayer epic

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slayer fury was so fun in manaforge

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it felt like slayer

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neverending procs all buttons glowing all the time

sullen dove
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yep cocka

olive wraith
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Please bigger executes for slayer in s2

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I would also like massive tb for thane

bitter palm
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we need hero talent tiersets

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back

olive wraith
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Pls and ty

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Ya

bitter palm
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manaforge sets were so peak

olive wraith
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Kinda hard to make a set that is good for both hero trees

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And make it not lame

bitter palm
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is it though

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i mean lame doesnt matter

worthy geyser
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even if it was bad damage i really miss getting consecutive tb procs last season
felt sooooo good

olive wraith
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What are they gonna do? Buff Of again? Buff bt

bitter palm
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set can be fun despite being boring

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like if 2p was just exe damage increased by 20%

worthy geyser
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what they really need is to bring back off-gcd abilities so i can make my fingers bleed like they did in wod

olive wraith
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That would be great for slayer

sullen dove
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but yea

olive wraith
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Mid for thane

bitter palm
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it would be a slayer set

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not a thane set

olive wraith
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That’s what I mean. It’s hard to do a class tier that isn’t mid for one of the hero trees

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Or very limited

bitter palm
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i swear arms is like the only spec with an actual tierset

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like what is this

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💤

sullen dove
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best dps spec in the game is what that is

bitter palm
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unholy dk calling...

sullen dove
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ok surely i win a 1/6 then 1/5 roll on maisara weapon right?

bitter palm
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bayboy rolling for a fury weapon

sullen dove
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like 1/3rd chance i get it

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ive been having the arms weapon bruh

hardy cargo
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I went magisters yesterday had whole loot table went 3/3 wep legs chest

sullen dove
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for like a month

hardy cargo
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u got this

bitter palm
sullen dove
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cluegi..

bitter palm
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how did a chinese arms

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do 204k boss damage on lura

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@sullen dove

sullen dove
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look at the second to last word of the question

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they are bill dipperly

bitter palm
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so ure saying

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manual log edit

sullen dove
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yes

bitter palm
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makes sense

static pine
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Hello, I've got a quick question. I've got bad luck gearing my warrior since i hit 90. I'm getting ready to craft a weapon, which stats would you recommend I set?

sullen dove
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probably just haste mastery if starting from 0 gear and want a quick answer but simming better option long term to learn how to do it on your own

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might be small rare instances of wanting to make a crit mast one or somethin like that instead but probably not a concern as a fresh 90

olive wraith
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Gearing is so damn fast for alts it’s crazy

static pine
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i know. my hunter went from around 210 when I hit 90 on it to 267, in about 3 weeks, just doing delves.

sullen dove
warped silo
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Is fury easier than arms for PvP? I’m switching from BM Hunter and don’t want whiplash

sullen dove
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#pvp prolly knows better

warm crag
sullen dove
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provide her

warm crag
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her provides

static pine
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I'm not a raider, and don't do mythic+, so the highest gear I'm looking at is hero track from delves, maybe a couple of crafted pieces with embellishments

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60 years old with arthritis in both hands makes anything else ... difficult. That's a good word for it, difficult.

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Thank you for the advice, have a good one.

clever belfry
warm crag
keen kindle
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But if you have Arthritis, fury...might not be a good fit for ya

static pine
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Not offended in the least, I have had people tell me it's time i quit the game lol.

olive wraith
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I mean if he’s not doing difficult content just use sbr

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Surely you can manage a 1 button rotation

keen kindle
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Eh I wouldn't say that

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Lower APM classes might help thou

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I support delvers too thou.

static pine
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I manage well enough i don't have to go that route just yet, and since all I do are delves and world quests, if the hands start giving me too much trouble, I can can just stop and rest them for a few minutes.

keen kindle
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Ahhh true true

static pine
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Now the day comes that I can't play my hunter, it will be time to consider hanging it up lol.

dense elbow
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288 too low ilvl to get invited to 10s nowadays, confirmed

queen sage
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But yes, that's stupid

sinful pelican
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🤷‍♂️

dense elbow
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It is a 10

vestal root
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this is the point of season i cant be arsed to pug anymore

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somehow people are even more picky

dense elbow
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Do 10s in 220 gear, get declined in 280

fallen ginkgo
dense elbow
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fgm

fallen ginkgo
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and then you do this

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sad world

sage ridge
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If you look at how many people queue to a 10 this early in the week you'd realize why you don't get taken

dense elbow
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How would I ever?

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I dont have a 10+

queen sage
sage ridge
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I have looked after I get invited and there is like 20+ dps queued up instantly

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It's more about when you queue than anything in those keys

dense elbow
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ye, but they actually decline me, press the buttton

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it hurts man

dapper goblet
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@slim coral dumb

slim coral
uneven path
vestal root
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i dont pay these animals to brick keys

junior oyster
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What sucks is sitting with 5 active apps you know youre not getting invites for

odd crater
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Just befriend a tank and healer

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And never worry about queues again

wary radish
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do you guys take improved whirlwind on lura? as slayer

undone flower
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you lose 0% dps by taking improved ww (since it's enraged regen point)

restive ridge
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How much Mastery do you guys have?

unreal onyx
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seramore it begins

late flame
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“What pot should a Fury Warrior use?”

fading abyss
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Just type in AH “Flask of the” I think it’s death knights but I could be mistaken but it gives mastery that’s what I use but you can type in “Flask of the _” if u need more haste you’ll find it 👍

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Flask of the magisters srry

unkempt oasis
tranquil sentinel
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Yeah mastery flask

young swan
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death knights

late flame
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y flask but what potion? 😄

dim spindle
young swan
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recklessness can be better, but if your mastery is close to haste it can get fucked

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or if you have high crit and get a heart proc

dim spindle
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Put those skills to use in the queue. "I WILL be invited.
Because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and doggone it, people like me"

late flame
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ive got 462 crit 1018 haste and 1184 mastery full buffed

radiant plank
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Great

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use

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lights potential

young swan
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yeah lights potential simply more consistent

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unless if u want to macro in a bunch of cancel auras into your reckless pot

dim spindle
young swan
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but i feel like you would end up losing more dps on average than you gain from running recklessness

dim spindle
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Purple buddy is such a bro

young swan
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i havent paid close enough attention

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i think they can

dim spindle
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I asked my guildies and they said they haven't noticed but I'm not sure I can trust them

uneven path
dim spindle
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Also a heroic heart (too filthy and casual for mythic) dropped last night WITH AVOIDANCE. They let me have it even though I already have an upgraded one. My guild isn't ALL bad it turns out

vestal root
dim spindle
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But another guildie's alt got a mythic gaze WITH AVOIDANCE in his vault. Stole my thunder

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2 days after his main got mythic gaze. Such a jerk

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Not that I'm jealous or anything

vestal root
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played some alts recently man some of them are strong but numbers be damned, warrior still feels better

dim spindle
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My affliction lock alt is pretty beast in m+ already and she's only 2 weeks old. Was starting to close in on my +20 ilvl warrior main depressingly soon

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ST not so great, but I/we are used to that

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Not sure I want to try demo, might be even more depressing

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Though seed of corruption machine gun spam gets old pretty fast tbh. I miss OG affliction style

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Even if it would be terrible in modern aoe content

abstract tulip
vestal root
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UH feels so deflating to me

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also no visual feedback feels like you are doing nothing

vestal root
abstract tulip
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yeah exactly

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also no big numbers

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just tons of small numbers

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I always feel like I am doing nothing

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and then I look at the meter and I am at 400k dps

vestal root
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well fury has no big numbas either but it feels good and some skills just hit well, so you see it happening

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UH you dont see anything you are n1 on meters tho

abstract tulip
vestal root
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it can yeah

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its why bot is recently telling me to drop more mastery in fav of crit

bitter moss
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God fury is a fake "easy" specs x) i'm strugglin so much doing dammage and i don't even know why XD

fresh mango
vestal root
lime vortex
vestal root
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real

quiet geyser
vestal root
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coping is not accepting something, i accepted it brother

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and im fine with it

bitter moss
quiet geyser
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Kinda affects you more now

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Not much, but more

bitter moss
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i just watch my log to try to understand and comparing to other but its soo confusing compare the the other specs i was playing

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to try to find where i mess up

night marlin
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Im sure it's gonna be a huge leap, but the new ring from the boss in 12.0.7 should be pretty decent for mountain thane no? Has anyone confirmed if stromestrike damage counts for the nature damage proc? I know it should be sometimes mixed spell schools get a little wonky

uneven path
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Welp time to prog fucking Paladins again sadge

vestal root
uneven path
keen kindle
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Damn

uneven path
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I am pretty sure we play them incorrectly but cba arguing with RL

bold furnace
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I had somebody tell me about rampage doing reduced damage in single Target if you had meat cleaver active And I can't seem to find any evidence of this. Has anybody heard about it or are they just talking out their ass?

uneven path
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Talent

bold furnace
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Ahhh gotcha ty

uneven path
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np

uneven path
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So I can play either colo or MT sadge

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And MT is troll anyways

lavish summit
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starting crown tonight, anyone got any warrior specific tips for the fight?

azure plank
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is everyone switching to slayer in m+?

dense elbow
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nope

odd crater
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Slayer everywhere because I’m just there for Battle Shout anyways

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Might as well spin

azure plank
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haha yeah battle shout bot

dapper goblet
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@slim coral dumb

dense elbow
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@unreal onyx

unreal onyx
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im a peon at 289

dense elbow
unreal onyx
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after farming I will have myth on every slot

dense elbow
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Doesnt matter, I won, season is over, I capped 1st

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After all these years

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I won

unreal onyx
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turbo boosts are not over yet

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there will be more

wary fjord
full turret
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is anyones logs not logging today? Even mine from last night arent showing

dense elbow
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Mine are working as normal

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Louvielle is not french, I am not watching

bitter moss
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What is the best way to see what i do wrong with my rotation i'm very new with End game content and its very confusing for me ><

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i have the feeling that i do my rotation proprely but my dammage tell me otherwise XD

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and i just don't know how to deal with it

dense elbow
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1st step: Know your rotation in theory
2nd step: Go into your logs, find the casts tab, find timeline. Then check if you are following the correct rotation. Note what you are doing wrong (order, dead gcds, so on), then do an effort to try fixing it

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Guess you could the tool thing BigB is keeping up to date, that I dont remember the name of

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aynone remember?

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that is prob the one

bitter moss
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i see the point i kinda found confusing but i maybe need to learn more about it >< log is hard to understand ><

dense elbow
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it makes sense once you get the logic of it, dont worry

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basically just click these 3

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Either or, Aank. Thane is still the go-to. Yet, as always, Slayer got its own value that it brings

stoic loom
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hey everyone should i play slayer or mt

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now that thane nerf omg

azure plank
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what content?

merry lotus
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Play whatever both are fine

stoic loom
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ye but im doing +9s which one is better guys

dense elbow
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Ngl, after Noxiv played Slayer in MDI. I expect everyone to flock over there, and suddenly be all like "Thane aint that good, nah"

bitter moss
# dense elbow

Thanks for your help ^^ i will try to learn about it a little bit more

merry lotus
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Overall damage is generally the same thane is better aoe slayer is better single target but overall dungeon damage it’s generally the same out come

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I run slayer cause I feel every class is just better AOE

storm rune
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not better, just more consistent

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slayer can yoyo from pull to pull

merry lotus
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I might be dumb but I think you just said better lol

storm rune
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just highroll ez

nova zenith
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I enjoy Thane not just for the juicy Thunderblasts but also appreciate the 5 second 8% DR proc it does, especially during the nastier pulls in places like Nexus Point (so basically increased survival).

marble pilot
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Thane is more head empty for me

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So I prefer it

dense elbow
storm rune
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I find more value in steadfast as the peak as dps

marble pilot
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Just hit cooldowns whenever they are up tblast rampage over and over

storm rune
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extra stam and an on demand shield is nice value

dense elbow
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Yeah, but SD healing for 15% tho

nova zenith
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I like to view it as allowing more mindRAM to be allocated toward situational awareness and not standing in swirlies/interrupting stuff, heh

marble pilot
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Yeah I try to be top interrupts/stops every dungeon if I can. Very rarely lose

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And the dps part of it is just vibing. Im sure slayer can be similar and It was for me last season. But IMO thane is easier to do well while not really paying attentions to procs or other rotational things

merry lotus
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I just wanna pretend to be papa noxiv and be slayer (im not even close)

marble pilot
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Am I in aoe just tblast/claps and rampage. Am i not in aoe remember that bloodthirst/ragingblow/execute exist

nova zenith
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It’s also nice to have Avatar and Recklessness on the same CD timer (even with Anger Management) so that I can just macro the two with one button.

marble pilot
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I occasionally think I should learn arms. But then I remember I have never liked that spec

nova zenith
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See Nox’s streams as well and he definitely presents a great demonstration while cranking Slayer

storm rune
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Arms is fun until you realize you're facing 5 degrees too far off from centre of the pack and whiff a cleave 🙁

frigid geyser
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which buff are u guys picking on AA?

merry lotus
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Verse so I can be a little more dumb but don’t listen to me

dapper goblet
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@sullen dove 👉 🕠

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@slim coral dumb

sullen dove
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@frigid zealot @fleet sorrel aquila soontm CINEMA

fleet sorrel
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Early af stream

sullen dove
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@dapper goblet you may also enjoy time to tune into madox stream prolly like ~30min segment one of the highlights of the game

patent sinew
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uh... do we run 2x Arcane mastery... or 1 Arcane 1 beserker? =/

sullen dove
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Sim both options and follow that okayge

sullen dove
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yea ur ass is lurking in there for sure

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@young swan if u never plan to play hsr also turbo epic to see what other game can do

patent sinew
sullen dove
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always the answer

patent sinew
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COMPUTA SAYS MASTERY

frigid geyser
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rampage glows when is available for use right?

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doesnt means anything else?

modest condor
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correct

uneven path
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Hey, I am not sure but as slayer when boss is sub 35% is prio exe > bb or SD > bb > exe

queen sorrel
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which is performing better right now, fury or arms?

compact knot
# patent sinew

computa says make sure to put the voidcleaver in your mainhand when you upgrade it to 298 gulp

worldly gyro
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does it matter which one to put on main hand? is it ok like this?

warm crag
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higher ilvl in main hand the way you did it is correct

worldly gyro
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awesome thx

snow radish
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Is it possible to Track the procc from hungry heart trinket ?

languid willow
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Isn’t it random?

snow radish
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Yes, thats why im asking - i want to know when it proccs

wispy thistle
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it has a ppm

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thats all you can rely on other than looking at logs

languid willow
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How would your gameplay differ if you could track is my question ig but without weakauras it’s probably not very easy to track since the cdm is garbage

wispy thistle
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Wowhead says 2 PPM

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so about 24 secs of uptime for every minute

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again its all just assuming full uptime as well

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but theres no way to really track it anymore since they gutted details and WAs

snow radish
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Okay Thanks, Yeah I just wanted to know if we can Track and Play around maybe, Like I know it didnt procc the last 35 Seconds and Like bladestoem is Comin up - then hold it for maybe 2-4 seconds for the trinket procc. Was just a thougt cause i got Lucky today and have it now 😅

languid willow
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Ngl I have never ever tracked it and I do fine dmg I doubt any sort of optimization around playing for the proc is going to make a substantial difference but I could be talking out my ass but yea unfortunately the game doesn’t want us to know anything anymore, your character does get a sort of purple dragon on your model when it procs tho

snow radish
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Ah okay thats a good Info 😁 didnt notice, Thanks

somber eagle
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this feels wrong ;d

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is it better to have 1 crafted weapon one myth or 2 armor with arcanoweave insight

serene cloud
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The difference seems to be small and very heavily dependant on the rest of your gear

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Last I checked it was something like 50dps difference for my gear level, around 285

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If you're trying to heavily optimize, sim will be your friend

somber eagle
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true, but I can really sim with m+ pulls

fringe citrus
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guys would you go double arcanoweave lining to have 2 myth weapons?

somber eagle
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thats what I really care for

fringe citrus
#

am on time very nice thanks

serene cloud
#

I tend to sim against a constant that matches my guild clears (1 boss light movement) , so it's a bit easier to read. The values will not be super accurate across all events, but I do a bit of everything. If you're mostlyfocused on M+ content, you can compare agasint the dungeon slice and see what it says there.

warm crag
#

dslice nat maintained

serene cloud
#

I remove all raid buffs besides what I can give myself to remove other variables, like if guildies are showing up or not

#

I'm generally more casual with my efforts, so it'd be better to rely on others who really dig deep - but that's how I'm able to roughly gauge upgrades and if I'm performing above where I should be with the bare minimum of buffs

fringe citrus
#

lets wait for Archi to tell us then 😄

young swan
sullen dove
#

for what

young swan
#

bis list doesnt have double arcano in it

#

but realistically it just doesnt matter all that much

sullen dove
#

yea literally just sim doesnt matter

warm crag
#

bis should be 2x myth weapon so you dont have to recraft when you press n and then make the correct choice

compact knot
#

imo

#

2x myth weapon

#

hunt embellishment can proc bad stats on some bosses

#

like lura for example

warm crag
#

you have found the one bad example

compact knot
#

idk if thats even the one bad example

#

cause like

warm crag
#

ive never seen a single other one named

compact knot
#

the sim auto assumes its proccing only mastery

warm crag
#

lura (raid) and lura (dungeon) true you are so right

compact knot
#

pretty sure bosses in wrs proc vers as well

#

undead procs vers

#

it sims like 30 dps more

warm crag
#

consider the stamina gain from 3 ilvls

compact knot
#

yeah that as well

warm crag
#

@dapper goblet Just bought my family a 84 inch TV in joy. Lowkey W is making me proud in front of my entire family. My 2 children are in smiles, overjoyed at my happiness as I pace around the room laughing. Promote Lystic immediately

earnest canyon
#

Anyone know how to open better character panel options?

faint whale
#

Hunt embell is a bit sim bait so i use double myth weap with double arcanoweave

compact knot
#

i agree

crude void
#

I'm basically max iLvl at this point 290+ so I'm trying to figure out any little DPS increse I can find for M+

If I'm simming for Fury M+, should I be using Patchwerk 5 Target or is Dungeon Slice better? Because I get significantly different results depending on which I use.

limpid tide
#

5 target 1 min 30 7 target 1 min shit like that can give u alittle idea

crude void
#

Yeah I've been doing 5 target 3 minute

#

I mean over all seems good, but I ran one on dungeon slice and it's showing some crazy different gear upgrades.

wraith sentinel
#

Are we just simming patchwerk 1 target or dung slice? What’s best rep this szn

#

Nvm I just read ignore me

crude void
#

Yeah any time frame Patchwerk 5 target pretty much gives me the same results. Basically side-grades within 100 DPS.

So I think I'm fine. I just saw a YouTube video that said to sim Dungeon Slice and it gave me such different results I thought I was messing up.

limpid tide
#

i would personally not do dungeon slice but i do alot of 1 target 5 min and 5 target 1m 30

gentle badge
#

is there a way to see how many times reap the storm procs? prob not a real accurate way since its not a buff, can only see procs of sudden death and not be able to see WW+rampage procs right?

sullen dove
compact knot
#

when i checked

#

it was like 95% mastery procs and 5% haste procs

#

seems it is like 50/50 now

#

45/45/10 with vers procs

smoky vale
#

wha

compact knot
#

think its chud asf

#

reck pot users have to cancel it

#

can proc shit stats when hitting certain mobs

sullen dove
#

shrugga

#

diff boss by boss fo sho but sim always looked like this for me since like start of the tier

languid willow
#

is fury troll for lura

#

or should i be doing slayer arms?

woven valley
#

Beloren is rough

#

so much damage

dapper goblet
winter shoal
languid willow
#

kk ty for info hoss's

scarlet swift
#

So is the tooltip wrong or are the gloves just truly this much ass?

winter shoal
#

Check the log

scarlet swift
#

Its M+ i didnt log it

somber jolt
winter shoal
#

avg hit for me is 2.6k

winter shoal
scarlet swift
#

apparently i carried the carry and didnt know it

limpid tide
#

coulda be stats based tho idk

scarlet swift
#

all those wasted bonus rolls for nothing, rip

winter shoal
#

I mean surely you simmed before sending bonus rolls right

scarlet swift
#

you're telling me that 1 CB the whole MC10, did the same dps as a full MC10 for 21 minutes of "dot dmg"?

winter shoal
#

I mean it's still like 300 free dps

#

the gloves still have a full secondary stat budget

scarlet swift
#

actually that was just boss dmg, but its still the same thing. 3 Crushing Blows in 21 minutes was 60% more dmg then 21 minutes of shadow dmg ticking from gloves/neck combined

winter shoal
#

I mean you can just sim whether crafted gloves are better for you

#

crests are uncapped so it doesn't cost you anything

sour frigate
storm rune
#

If I only look at exe phase I did pretty okay on this fight

sour frigate
#

💪

scarlet swift
#

its def 1ppm, which is garbo

hearty geyser
#

is thane best in m+?

grand vale
#

Do we switch the 15% bonus haste/mastery talent depending on what we have more of?

#

or do we take haste for the 10% speed no matter what

grand vale
#

Yeah

olive wraith
#

Always haste

grand vale
#

okay

honest tundra
#

does anyone why bis in wowhead or icyvein suggest platinum starband + eye of midnight even though sim says occlusion/omission is better

covert coyote
#

bis is only bis if you have every item on the list. if you don't then listen to your sims.

honest tundra
#

yeah i simmed with every bis item

covert coyote
#

basically never delete M items you get and whenever you sim, sim everything you have

honest tundra
#

maybe the eye of midnight defense passive is worth the 200 dps tradeoff

covert coyote
#

if the diff is only 200 DPS then you can do whatever you feel. that small of a gap is pretty negligible

olive wraith
storm rune
#

Who forgot to tell me to go prot spec when rolling for alnseer?

undone flower
burnt oxide
pale fox
#

Hello, what do you guys drop in m+ talents for enraged regeneration?

smoky vale
#

massacre is a popular option to drop to pick up enraged regen

burnt oxide
#

massacre for thane, one point cruelty for slayer

lofty forge
#

as fury do we use 2 x Darkmoon Sigil: Hunt?

summer quail
#

no

lofty forge
#

1 hunt and 1 Arcanoweave Lining?

vernal laurel
lofty forge
#

i just do m plus

#

ok ok

vernal laurel
#

Then the answer is probably sim your character

lofty forge
#

cant find Embellishments on raidbots

tiny seal
#

Click on the + and you can add embellishments to items

terse ether
#

im done

#

now i can rest

tepid beacon
#

can anyone please crit my gear and stats, I've simmed and seems like for the most part I just need a couple of raid bits and I think should be souped up even more

tepid beacon
# terse ether

what rings are those, are they from raid? I'm currently running with omission rings

terse ether
terse ether
#

next week are guarranteed 😄

tepid beacon
terse ether
#

full siming what I have available

tepid beacon
#

its weird as when I sim using Droptimizer the only thing it's really recommending to get is puzzle box, apparently everything else looks good

terse ether
#

for st ?

#

what u need is gaze mythic

#

if I run 1 dungeon weekly - do I get 6 tokens to purchase socket ?

tepid beacon
#

nah doing mainly AoE thane

warm crag
terse ether
#

i see

#

easy

#

tt

zinc willow
#

Hey guys - I am wondering - what's the best way to analyse one's rotation? I am at 287 item level and while I manage to push dps at 140k average in Mythic+ I barely get to 75-80K in the Mythic raid environment on the usual single target + rend . I probably suck - but I expected a bit more scaling. Are there fury warriors here than manage to hit the 100k DPS of the Sim? I feel like a support class xD People are happy with my buffs, my shouts - but my single target seems abyssal.

smoky vale
smoky vale
#

hahahha

stoic echo
warm crag
compact siren
#

Funny man in my computer

warm crag
#

Will you kill the chime before me?

compact siren
#

I hope so!

#

Or I will have to 7

warm crag
#

You have 6 days

compact siren
#

Ok buddy

#

You are discussing an arms fight in fury!

#

Ban angle

warm crag
#

Famed warrior critical strike confection played fury on that fight! (i think this was troll)

compact siren
#

Banezi wouldn’t have let this happen

warm crag
#

@oblique trail

warm crag
#

Quick post her

bitter palm
warm crag
compact siren
hallow zodiac
#

How is fury doing in mythic plus??

sudden tusk
#

both fury and arms are doing well

hallow zodiac
#

im shit at arms is fury easier?

sudden tusk
#

yes

smoky vale
tiny seal
hallow zodiac
#

im just cooked then

tiny seal
#

almost nothing you need to track no enrage etc

tiny seal
#

do a couple of keys/bosses with it and everyone is good with any spec

merry lotus
sullen dove
stoic loom
burnt oxide
#

U should

stoic loom
#

ure literally

#

perma enraged

#

ye i hve my lil bar to track enrage but u dont even need to look at it

#

its hardly something "you need totrack"

burnt oxide
#

You should track it to optimize it

stoic loom
#

clearly you're missing my point

#

tracking enrage isnt some 200 iq move that makes fury harder than arms

burnt oxide
#

But you did not make that point

stoic loom
#

with how much rage we generate now

burnt oxide
#

You did a blank statement for tracking enrage

stoic loom
#

and BT

#

i'd imagine even without tracking enrage u'll be enraged for 95% of a fight

burnt oxide
#

Maybe, but why not 98

#

But if you want to chill, yes you can ignore it if you press rampage if it glows

#

But you still should track it, to get used to actually optimizing it

#

But what to track in reality:
Enrage, Reck uptime, WW stacks
Thane: Avatar uptime
Slayer: rend in st(slight optimization, can live without tbh)

#

And ofc sudden death procs

hardy shuttle
#

Ive been playing both slayer specs and colosus in 20s and 21s. To me easiest to hardest slarms>slury>col. As far as doing damage. But as fury i feel immortal. Just eating the skyreach last boss damage like its nothing.

burnt oxide
#

Yes, fury is passive beefy af

#

Thane a bit more

hardy shuttle
#

Slayer seems more than enough though so far. Haven't entered 21 seat yet

#

And thats arms key anyways

opaque mortar
#

Are you running enraged Regen on slurry?

hardy shuttle
#

Yeah

burnt oxide
#

Yes, in higher keys

#

One point cruely gone

opaque mortar
#

Perf. Was thinking about making the swap.

bitter palm
#

whats funny is u prolly dont need

#

if u dstancemaxx

#

but thats a bigger dps loss

burnt oxide
#

I sometimes use it like twice in a key, but i rather have it than miss it

opaque mortar
#

Yea but I'm bad so

#

My feet are attracted to swirlys

hardy shuttle
#

Yeah and now that you kind of ww spam sometimes, bottom of class tree feels more locked in

dense elbow
#

Reap 10% nerf, BS 10% buff, when?

warm crag
dense elbow
sullen dove
#

so a 5% fury nerf youre asking for

hardy shuttle
#

I remember when funky just wanted odyns buffs. He's changed

dense elbow
#

I know my buffs are coming after the tier ends

smoky vale
#

rxplode

#

@dense elbow

red berry
#

buff reap again for the love of the game

burnt oxide
#

They gonna buff reap and reduce the chance for sd reap to 50% chatting

burnt oxide
#

There is a reason a percentage is involved in the tooltip

#

So they can change it!

dense elbow
#

There is a reason they can ban your account

uneven path
#

Only scenario where I think this could be better is if they did the
if sd hits less then 3 targets it strikes them with Salyer strikes 3 and more reap

#

That would be peak for me

dense elbow
#

Joke

You

uneven path
rapid meteor
#

what are the diminishing returns like for fury currently sitting at 42% Mastery 30% Haste and 18% Crit

uneven path
# dense elbow Joke You

In my defence I cant read and though he said "they gotta buff reap and reduce the chance for sd reap to 50%"

uneven path
dense elbow
#

The court rejects your proposal for a retrial. You are judged for what you stated and how it was intended to be percieved at the time.

uneven path
dense elbow
#

To the shadowrealm you go

uneven path
dense elbow
#

14.0.9

uneven path
oblique trail
sullen dove
smoky vale
#

hey banezi

#

where'd you get that 57

uneven path
#

@dense elbow Any chance to reduce the sentance ?

dense elbow
#

You can try to apeal to the higher court, ping Archi

uneven path
tiny seal
#

you dont wanna bust without enrage so

#

thats what i meant

slim coral
#

good morning gamers

uneven path
smoky vale
#

not another morning till i go to sleep

hallow zodiac
#

good morning gamer

smoky vale
#

gm

light sandal
#

Looks like slayer is gaining traction over thane in m+

smoky vale
#

i think its just people playing what they enjoy more

light sandal
#

DPS is higher than Thane is now too

#

big juicy meaty numbers = enjoyment lol

fading sky
#

Not aoe?

light sandal
#

AOE too

fading sky
#

Ok,

dense elbow
#

Grumble grumble

sullen dove
#

as god intended

supple glen
#

are you guys running puzzyB in dungeons despite having myth heart and gaze

brittle crow
#

hell no

stoic loom
#

hell no

supple glen
#

okay that just sounds like puzzlebox hater comments

fading sky
#

Ofc not?

#

Its a bad cd timer and a cast

supple glen
#

its not that bad for pulls where tanks need to get threat and pull

random shadow
#

But like why do that if you have 2 really good passive trinkets

supple glen
#

bc an active for a big pull kinda nice

#

or at least thats what im thinking and asking

random shadow
#

Do you chain pulling often and do you use it during a mid pull

#

And what key level

#

Cause what happens if you're being bolted mid cast. No kicks are up and you can spell reflect

supple glen
#

i still havent really pushed just asking

#

swapping to monk lmao

random shadow
#

I mean monks the same besides heart

supple glen
#

i mean yeah it can suck using, was just curious if its still considered worth for well planned pulls

dense elbow
random shadow
#

Espically brew. Box is the same goodness but youll get nuked

supple glen
#

no monk buttons are fun, fury buttons are just, do i have 100 rage or not

random shadow
#

And they're all very planned routed snd such

supple glen
#

fair, its just hard to say if ppl even have the option for double myth passive

dense elbow
#

Everyone can get easy 2x Passive, if they want it

random shadow
#

Shouldn't be too bad since the bosses are easy to pug this season

#

Chimmy is a 1 boss raid pug so no lockouts

#

Vora is a bit more annoying due to lockout but just do it on a tuseday to Thursday and fine

dense elbow
#

Godzilla and tictactoe is free, so dont worry about it

#

The only issue, is when you join for those two, the group usually is a 3-4 boss run

#

so u gotta be there for a little while longer

random shadow
#

I've never had to

dense elbow
#

you left?

#

Shame

#

on

#

u

random shadow
#

I cant leave if they disband or their only goal is certain kills lol

#

Most chimmy groups just disband after chimmy dies

#

And most folks just want vora for vault

#

How do make 19 other people stay for 4 total boss when they leave or they dont want to

dense elbow
#

cause title said 2-3 bosses, I stay till it is called

#

I am a good boii

random shadow
#

Ive barely even seena. Group for saladbar

#

Mosts just says first 1 or 2. Or judt the raid name that usually ends at vora anyways

#

Chimmy pugs is normally always just chimmy

supple glen
#

i guess its safe to assume since voidcores yea

dense elbow
#

Chimmy is not an issue to discuss

#

it is a free HC level diff boss

#

:v

#

1/1 raid

#

there are 0 issues

random shadow
#

The issue is folks in the pugs. I agree with you its a easy boss. But its the 19 other folks

supple glen
#

the pugs always leave us on sal

#

aka 2 times

dense elbow
#

as long you get Vol down, you good either way

supple glen
#

even killed it 2nd night

#

was reasonable prog id say

random shadow
#

I personally dont really care. I just pugged for the trinkets and call it a day

dense elbow
#

Same, but I only do m+ as my content focus

#

Come home, sip some tea, do some keys

#

I am just waiting in terror of the day another cantrip weapon drops from the last boss in the raid

#

I will never see it

#

... unless? dandy

supple glen
#

when the only people actually learning between tries keep leaving, i cba

agile token
#

285 Ilvl fury with 3350 rio, yesterday I got succesfully declined for 10 keys back to back for 15 min

supple glen
#

sounds right

#

its getting better around sunday when most ppl are done

#

they will take you over the 270 alts at least

#

🔥

fading sky
undone flower
burnt oxide
#

Yeah ppl leaving our raid on saladbar after them agreeing to stay until the raid is officialy over after he is dead or the raidtime is up is kinda meh deadge

worthy stirrup
#

as slayer when is the best moment to use bladestorm? (when stacks up? when in reck?)

scarlet swift
olive wraith
olive wraith
#

But don’t hold it too long to sync

olive wraith
#

Wow an ippo gif

thorny zenith
#

Fury is better for m+ than arms if my group has a devdh right

#

Since you dont want to double up on funnel

olive wraith
#

Colo has fat aoe too though

#

Is your group lacking on anything

modest hollow
#

any1 here open to help me with some Slayer stuff?

olive wraith
#

Ask away dude

modest hollow
#

i fail to understand if im supposed to use every stack of ww before pressing it again? or do i waste a gcd doing that?

undone flower
#

Currently ww does enough dmg itself you use it above rb in AoE

#

So no, you don’t spend all stacks, maybe in very low target count AoE

modest hollow
#

and execute sometimes reduces my bladestorm, and sometimes it doesnt

undone flower
#

Last talent of slayer

#

Idk the exact name of the talent

#

The capstone

fickle cedar
modest hollow
#

Unrelenting onslaught

#

okey, so i can go to gameplay enhancements and track the buff there?

undone flower
#

No

#

You don’t track executioner stacks

fickle cedar
#

You dont need to, as long as you consume your sudden death procs you'll be fine

undone flower
#

Maybe something to track sudden death yes

#

But not needed for executioner stacks

modest hollow
#

ty for boosting my understanding!

scarlet swift
#

sometimes i get greedy and wait 1-2 seconds to see if a SD procs before sending bladestorm

undone flower
#

If you read the rotation you kinda get what you need to track

olive wraith
undone flower
#

Executioner, Bloodborne, imminent demise not listed as a condition : you don’t rly need to track it (currently), you will make it appear if a version of fury needs it

scarlet swift
undone flower
#

You should always naturally have imminent demise at 3 stacks except the first bladestorm

olive wraith
#

Talking about this?

olive wraith
scarlet swift
#

i guess im just pepega and never tracked that 😄 i just also did an execute if possible before bladestorm because i knew it gave 1 extra, never saw the stacking part

brittle crow
#

yall ever decide to hold bladestorm for adds and then you get 3 sudden death procs over 6 globals

undone flower
#

You don’t need to track imminent demise

#

It’s not a condition for our rotation

olive wraith
#

You wouldn’t ever hold bs just to wait for an extra ID stack

#

Just put that baby on cd

scarlet swift
#

ya, thats what i can stop doing

undone flower
#

You can show it but it’s more for stuff like prestacking before the key

#

Which is kinda minimal

scarlet swift
#

basically its me waiting for tank to wrangle it all together so i can BS, and hoping for an execute proc, but its not needed apparently, so i can just send it without feeling bad

olive wraith
#

The ole ww spam as mobs group

scarlet swift
#

WW/Ramp/WW/Ramp..weeeeeeee

#

i was able to remake my WW tracker, i love it so much 🙂

#

i was lost without it and WA disappeared

olive wraith
#

You didn’t grab the one someone made early this season?

scarlet swift
#

nah? im a barely addon-andy

undone flower
#

I use sensei for ww stacks, but there is a specific addon if you just want that

fair void
#

if i want to take Enraged Regeneration in m+ push, what i'm supposed to take off ?

undone flower
#

Cruelty

#

As slayer

undone flower
#

Massacre as thane

fair void
#

as thane

#

ok ok thx

scarlet swift
#

the visual countdown + audio is peak ww stack design

random shadow
scarlet swift
#

lol it wasnt a rotation, it was just showing the tracker

random shadow
#

hurts

fading sky
#

That ui deffo makes u worse at the gamw🤣

#

The amount of travel for ya eyes 2 find cds is insane

undone flower
#

Vibing enrage like me keks

thin scroll
scarlet swift
#

what do you mean? its really that hard for you to understand your own CDs?

thin scroll
#

cant play with shit in the middle

fading sky
#

Man enrage is 1 thing but bs - rage bat

scarlet swift
#

acting like moving your eyes is hard work

fading sky
#

Its super ineffecient

undone flower
#

Moving your eyes = mistake

fading sky
#

Yup

#

Any hard content punishes u for thst

thin scroll
#

U cant see the bottom of ur screen while looking at the middle?

fading sky
#

If u run hc raid and 10s go ahead

fading sky
scarlet swift
#

good thing im only 2800 and dont care about 15+s huh

dense elbow
scarlet swift
bitter palm
#

playing arms with middle ahh st

bitter palm
#

and gapping everyone

#

on every boss

undone flower
#

It doesn’t make me arms guy

bitter palm
#

at lower ilvl

#

👍

fading sky
#

Theres a reason why every single good melee player have shit at char🤣

dense elbow
#

Arms scum multiplying as we speak

fading sky
#

Im arms

bitter palm
#

10 years into the patch and people still cant press their midnight rotations

#

1-2-3 1-2-3

fading sky
bitter palm
#

rotations

fading sky
#

I play slayer

dense elbow
#

See, now all the arms players are here

fading sky
#

So we are the same kitty

dense elbow
#

Like roaches

fading sky
#

Slayer > spec

undone flower
#

Is slarms playable ? Last time I played it was just after .5 so…

dense elbow
#

The smell of arms will never leave your soul

olive wraith
#

Apparently it cranks st in keys

fading sky
#

21s are done as slayer

undone flower
#

It is my fav arms hero

fading sky
#

Prob better than any fury spec

olive wraith
#

Clearly that’s all Aug clueless

thin scroll
bitter palm
#

cluegi

olive wraith
#

That’s crazy though

fading sky
#

I mean where do u have cds?

scarlet swift
#

i dont understand why ya'll play with your center screen so cluttered

undone flower
#

To always have your eyes on your character / the target

olive wraith
#

That’s where most of your focus is

scarlet swift
#

you do you, its not necessary though

fading sky
#

Deez

scarlet swift
#

your stuff is also covering all the bad

fading sky
#

Its not

#

Its centered

#

It is not

#

In the way of anythibg

scarlet swift
#

Its not? this is what 90% of you do

thin scroll
#

I mean if u still need to look at ur skills to know what to press u just dont have the muscle memory yet, and managing CDs on something like Fury is not really hard to lookover

fading sky
#

Sd procs

scarlet swift
fading sky
#

Ramps

scarlet swift
#

all ya'll do the same thing, full clutter

bitter palm
fading sky
#

Rage enrage

undone flower
bitter palm
#

there is just no benefit

#

in not having everything in ur focus area

fading sky
#

Health

#

Defensives

scarlet swift
#

"but his suboptimal eye movement" herpaderp

fading sky
#

If u c everythin relevant is centered

scarlet swift
bitter palm
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he is trackign everythign he cares about in the middle

burnt oxide
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I tend to hide such bars

thin scroll
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tbh compared to other games m+ players are just over average bad players, ofc addons make most shit way easier and accessible but its not mandatory to perform at higher lvls - and when u do perform at high enough lvl u mostly know everything about ur spec from memory tbf

scarlet swift
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dudes on a ultrawide playing a 6 inch screen

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you guys do you, i like seeing everything

bitter palm
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i dont get ur point

fading sky
bitter palm
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u need to keep looking at ur character

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to avoid mechanics

daring laurel
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“M+ players are just over average bad players”

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Crazy statement

scarlet swift
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i see myself, wide open

bitter palm
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ye stove is bad at the game

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truth nuke

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waalpen bad

thin scroll
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under +19

burnt oxide
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But by seeing more of the world you see less of your interface

bitter palm
daring laurel
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Just like raid

thin scroll
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im talking about the average player

scarlet swift
thin scroll
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And the average wow player

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is just really bad

olive wraith
daring laurel
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Yeah LOL

undone flower
scarlet swift
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once a minute, its not hard

modest condor
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bring back 30 minute cds

daring laurel
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Idk what this guys trying to say

burnt oxide
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You want to see more than that monkahmm

daring laurel
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Silly statements really

undone flower
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unless you don't play anger management monkahmm