fury

[sudden tusk]

lmao

[modest condor]

nah

[potent ocean]

I dont get invited as Fury or Arms doesnt matter.

[random shadow]

Not even cool number

Must get 6 more points

[dense elbow]

I get invited to 18s

And I am the bottom of bottom shelf picks

[potent ocean]

lucky you, i just made my key +18 SEAT gonna try it to complete tomorrow after work.. i gotta go to work in 5hours.. should go to sleep too

[dense elbow]

Dont let the bedbugs bite o/

[potent ocean]

❤️ gn

[tranquil field]

Huge, Grats. Working on 19’s now myself.

[untold quail]

free to push 21 resil you mean

[stoic loom]

u sure ure not just getting lucky?

i got invited to a 21 resil on my shaman at 3450 score cos they really wanted a shaman xd

[sudden tusk]

no idea

[hot shell]

Hax

[stoic loom]

it does show 3850 score on main so might help

[novel perch]

Sup, I have a question about mythic lura. I;m using pummel makro, 90% of time I kick add, but tonight I manged to kick Lura 4 times, which shouldnt be possible with makro

any ideas?

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral dumb

[novel perch]

I dont have any other pummel makro/pummel itself on bars

[unreal onyx]

love not dying all evening long and then when trying to soak an orb getting color changed and dying

but boss is dead, nice

[dense elbow]

Gz on the classic 1st kill log

[slim coral]

I'm trying!

[slim coral]

[slim coral]

Thanks bud

[junior gale]

Baze I bricked a 19 POS because our rogue died right before the mini boss in the tunnel died and released and our tank payed 0 attention so he pulled boss without the rogue there. Failed the key by 20 seconds.

[drowsy heron]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-12061360726599077047

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral dumb

[floral arrow]

can someone see my simc? m still learn this
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hD8pS3B3ELdLWZpophcUU6

[spare steppe]

what do you want to know

[floral arrow]

m doing it right?

what i need to increase my DPS?

[inland flame]

There are no red flags on your gear I don't think. If you're trying to max your boss dps Slayer will perform a little better.

[spare steppe]

farm some voidcores to boost up your trinkets/weapons

swap your rings to eyes of the eagle

[floral arrow]

i need more haste than mastery?

[wary salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/young-padawan-luke-balance-yoda-starwars-gif-11218619

[spare steppe]

ilvl is usually king, sim is moreso

you dont really go for a specific stat

[earnest canyon]

How many weekly myth dungeons do you need for 6 Thalassian token of merit to get a voidcore roll? Do you have to do all 8, or can you do 4? Or even 1?

[thick finch]

1

[past pivot]

Are you sure? I thought it was 3 of any category. Same as a socket

[nova vessel]

3 of any content

[random shadow]

0 tech

Could do all deleves if you wanted to

Or 1 of each category

[nova vessel]

u can do a m+ and 2 delves chests on tier 1

[dim spindle]

I bet player engagement metrics have been wildin' the last couple weeks

Soon to fall off a cliff

Won't fault blizz for trying new things I suppose

Will fault for the inevitable bugs

[earnest canyon]

all 3 slots full? Or any 3 contents? Eg 3 +10s?

[earnest canyon]

Ah nvm u answered, thanks!

[dim spindle]

Looks like you weren't locked in 🙁

[bleak bluff]

my personal best!
thane terrace15!
overall 206,591

damn resolution

[random shadow]

Interesting name

[storm rune]

its their world

we're just living in it

[bleak bluff]

lol thanks my alts name is ageofmydic pol

[hot shell]

Wouldnt be surprised if koreans was missing english slur filters

[zinc python]

is it better to WW over raging blow with 2 targets fury slayer?

[modest condor]

technically not but the loss is low enough that if you just want to brain off you can whirlwind over raging blow on anything that's more than 1 target

i think the real cutoff is like 4 targets or something

[languid willow]

Idk I just be pressing ww and shit if it’s more than 1 target idk

[wooden scarab]

anyone have a stance switch macro? the one I have is not working and I have no Idea why :D

[tender saffron]

At what point am I hunting for crit instead of haste/mast?

I have like 1200 haste and 900 master but like 450 crit. Google tells me 1300 haste is soft cap and "30%" mastery is soft cap.

I see people crafting their 285 pieces into crit/mastery and I don't know what they know.

[brittle crow]

when sims tell u to

stop thinking for urself, ask the robot

[tender saffron]

How do I become more effective at asking the robot?

Premium robot?

[brittle crow]

free robot

you simply sim crit/mastery pieces

if they sim higher than haste/mastery then u use crit/mastery

[tender saffron]

Got it.

Ignore math
Ask machine

[brittle crow]

ur warrior, u dont think

u zug

[tender saffron]

But im on to something right?

[brittle crow]

genuinely no, theres no knowledge to it

[tender saffron]

Fug

[brittle crow]

we dont have breakpoints that u can really focus

u literally just sim stuff

and use it if its better

are u about to craft a piece? ask the robot what stats to craft it with

vault? ask robot

[tender saffron]

287. Just trying to squeeze

Its the mixture of different foods pots flasks and craft pieces that is a pain in the ass to sim directionlessly

[brittle crow]

u dont sim food just eat for str

u dont sim flasks just drink mastery

pots is just between lights potential and recklessness

and the diff is so small u dont care either way

i autopilot lights potential cuz i have a macro for it already made

and im p sure its cheaper

[thorn hearth]

is it better to use voidcores on wep first or trinks

[tender saffron]

Almost always weapon I think

[tender saffron]

Thanks

[frank dawn]

yeah weps should always be more

[thorn hearth]

cool

[frank dawn]

unless some weird giga trinket, but we don't have any of those this tier

[thorn hearth]

not even the AA trink?

[frank dawn]

not really, there could be some situations in M+ where you could make the argument it's burst is more powerful than a weapon upgrade. but the weapon upgrade is def still the best overall

and since you'll upgrade everything fairly quickly anyway, doesn't matter too much

[ocean ore]

how long is egg phase mythic belo

tryna sim somethin

[rapid helm]

Would y'all say MT or Slayer is easier to pick up for M+? New warrior here deciding which to go with.

[brittle crow]

neither are hard

thane is better* and a bit easier, tho

[rapid helm]

Ok thanks. Is the Wowhead guide current with the recent patch?

[brittle crow]

always

trust it for everything blindly

[rapid helm]

Ok, I thought I heard someone here say something about it not being completely correct with the rotation. Maybe it's been changed

[olive wraith]

Honestly I think slayer is easier currently

But ya, neither are hard

[rapid helm]

Ok thanks. Time to go whack some dummies.

[somber elk]

Would also say slayer is better

[olive wraith]

Debatable

[worthy geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

[woven valley]

Really sad they didn’t make the raging blow reaps a hero talent. They knew it would be too fun

[bitter palm]

not making the 2pc a talent is a crime

[worn yoke]

SD Reaps should hit for 150%. Change my mind.

[zinc python]

sorry if someone already answered this but for 2 targets, do we hit raging blow or whirlwind with slayer?

assuming you already got the buff active

[rugged dawn]

When looking at parses for dungeons, is the key% parse more important than the other parse?

[heavy galleon]

Of course

Key% is about the log on the same lvl of key

You don't care if jimmy doing super great dps on +2 if you log +16

[olive wraith]

Ww>rb at 3-4 targets or something

[olive wraith]

Yuck

[grand vale]

I still don't like that parses aren't scaled to ilvl

it doesn't show me jack shit if i have a good parse but are too bad compared to my potential dps

parses need to be weighted with sim dps to have a real meaning

it's not that hard, just divide the dungeon dps through the potential sim dps and you know if the player was playing well or not

or players that are rocking the meters with bad gear who are the real mvps aren't valued as much as they should be

[glacial bough]

That's what bracket parses arw

Parses by ilvl brackets

Give you a bit of an idea of how your performing for your ilvl versus against everyone

[indigo arch]

Slayer fury should have tww s3 tuning and reap spam

[glacial bough]

Has its issues but it's there

[indigo arch]

It'd kill thane in m+, but so be it

spin must occur

[woven valley]

Thane just needs to have its aoe uncapped more for bigger pulls while slayer could be better for bossing and smaller faster pulls

Would give both niches to work in

But blizzard are cowards, afraid of what we can do if unshackled

[bitter palm]

how do u measure potential dps

you'd have to model the fight in simc along with all potential downtime you could get cause of mechanics

you'd have to also take into account ur group doing high damage to adds or low dmg to adds. bosses phasing at lower or higher hp phasing earlier or later

its just impossible

there are way too many variables

[grand vale]

Better than nothing i guess

[indigo arch]

I would love if they opened thane up like that

made it absolutely blast in places like pit/AA/etc

giant uncapped claps

[woven valley]

Would give both hero talents things to be good at

But again

Blizz can’t design warrior these days

[stoic star]

Have you always had to pickup the orbs for the 45% haste buff in AA

just noticed on hunter

[woven valley]

People used to do fire only

From what I remember and try to burn bird boss down

[stoic star]

well we do both in high keys

[woven valley]

Now we do wind and fire

I mean back in DF

[stoic star]

im saying does all classes get their own orbs?

[woven valley]

People did fire only

[stoic star]

for air

I saw a mage run over the orbs near me and they didnt get used

[woven valley]

The orbs always spawn on the outside of the room when the wind phase starts

[stoic star]

im wondering if those same air 45% haste buffs spawn for fury warrior too

[woven valley]

They do

[stoic star]

lol embarassing for me

[dry ether]

boys, got a question. if im dong 15-17 keys and want to push higher, should i switch to slayer or stay playing MT

[bitter palm]

doesnt matter

[woven valley]

Both work, thane tends to be more forgiving if you mess up imo

[dry ether]

i enjoy slayer more honestly, MT is boring

[woven valley]

I mean let’s be honest, both hero talent sets are boring for dps warrior

[stoic star]

fax

[rapid helm]

What are y'all binding rampage, bloodthirst, and whirlwind to?

curious which keys you are using, been trying to find the most natural feeling

[bitter moss]

i put rampage in 3 and bloodthirst in 1 Because its in my opinion where your fingers are by default for gamers and whirlwind to A

[fossil moss]

whirlwind is t for Time to whirlwind

[olive wraith]

() together for ww

[zinc python]

rampage 4, Bloodthirst 2, Whirlwind Shift+3

[dense elbow]

Ww is on shift 1, as that is where it was put a decade or more ago

[timid tide]

I tend to mostly move/steer during fights with my mouse and navigate around targets with Q and E, so I have BT it 2, rampage on 4, WW on shift+4

[zinc python]

yea bloodlust, were about the same

only difference is my thunderclap is on shift+4

and ww shift+3

[timid tide]

Same, for MT TC switches WW but stays on the same keybind. Others I use are OF on 4, F is execute, storm bolt is R, pummel is C, burst is Z

[zinc python]

storm bolt is Shift +R for me, pummel is R

[hushed ocean]

F on execute, real gentlemen always pay respect

[ripe shore]

Got a naga so it's a bit different but

Rampage on 2, BT on 3, WW on 6

F is interrupt

[stray bolt]

That's pretty cool ngl

[bitter moss]

Question i can't roll or drop in the vault a mythic weapon would be worth it to craft a second myth weapon when i already have one ?

[frank harbor]

1bt 2rampage 3rb 4ww 5odyn
²macro cd Rbladestorm Freflect Ekick
Aexec =leap )charge àshockwave

F4throw F6victory shiftF6 stance switch :p

[ripe shore]

[limber ether]

I would only craft a 2nd myth weap if you have a lot of spare crests, as you must spend 80 extra crests on it while getting a dropped weapon to 6/6 only costs 20. Given you have one crafted allready

[bitter moss]

Thaaannkkss

[granite elbow]

Shift Alt = for kick so you never miss it

[ripe shore]

Cos you never press it 👀

[dense elbow]

Big brain

I got interrupt on 2, as it is a button i just gotta be able to click fast

A bit less stress nowadays, as cast times are generally quite long.

So maybe alt-shift is the way

[ripe shore]

I feel like 2 keys will always be slower and less reliable than one

But tbf I've had F as interrupt since like 2008

[elfin vortex]

Morning guys
i have a question about slayer rotation .
Why we send first Bladestorm and then Odyn's fury?
is it because Odyn's has shorter CD?

[mossy tangle]

doesn´t matter what you use first, has no impact on the overall DPS

[elfin vortex]

then why in wowhead at opening section shows bladestorm and then Odyn's?
should we send Odyns first to get enraged then rampage to spend rage and then bladestorm?
it's a min max question but i kinda wanna see if i miss something important

oh actually it may be because of overwhelming blades

[bitter moss]

Tbh its just testing by yourself what work the best because i swear for warrior every website say something different x)

Im still strugglin to see why my dps in single target is so low and non of the website have been usefull x)

[elfin vortex]

i guess we test on dummy?

[bitter moss]

Yesss !!

Dummy = bestie

[frank harbor]

beyblade put the debuff on your target, so increase odyn's dps ( just a little up )

the right thing is : CD => rampage => beyblade => odyn

i think

[solid tusk]

I do CD => rampage => beyblade => rampage => odyn

Otherwise i odyn at 130 fury

[somber elk]

Why do we beyblade before odyns?

[solid tusk]

Well for one -> you put overwhelming stacks on your target = More dps
Second is for the opener and generally u dont want to waste rage -> beyblade gives you alot of rage -> if you would do odyns into beyblade u would waste rage - thats why i beyblade > Rampage > Odyn

[rugged dawn]

I cant figure out why im grey parsing as fury so badly, I posted in log review. it's frustrating me to bits. 🙁

[solid tusk]

Well - Dying on 2 bosses will hurt your overall alot for one - I just looked into it a bit but it seems like you munch whirlwind stacks

Sometimes u use 3 abilitys and press ww again - sometimes u press 6 abilities till you refresh it

[rugged dawn]

Yeah, ok that makes sense

[white berry]

is there a way around the delay of me pressing rampage and the whirlwind stack falling off?

[elfin vortex]

yea that's what i figure after i posted 😛

[unkempt dagger]

i anything with more than 3 targets u wanna whirlwind when you dont have rampage or bt or sd proc to press

also, i just looked at ur vs mine bloodbath, are u using bloodbath when ur in ur cd window, and u can use rampage?

if so, that is quite a big loss, use it only once you dont have rampage

also i mean

ur trinkets, no 2set from finger, and if you are above 1050 haste, use 16crit/7mastery gems

wrong enchants on fingers, use eyes of the eagle

[unkempt dagger]

check noxiv runs

and his gear on murlok

[ionic fulcrum]

Mousewheel down

[hardy cargo]

u are casting too much raging blow/crushing blow, and not enough casts overall ur cpm is crazy low

like im looking at a skyreach 20 I did in 26 mins compared to the 28 mins 15 skyreach u did, I had 165 more rampage casts than u did

combining raging blow + crushing blow u had 62 more casts of that very unfortunate button. Now, its very hard to really judge bc I am not seeing things like route

[candid falcon]

unhinged talent also activates the talent that makes your bleeds stronger, which makes odyns fury stronger

[frozen nacelle]

Should I roll vault as prot if im aiming for gaze. Dont need anything else other than maybe myth weapon to replace crafted

[lusty jungle]

Having a shaman allows you to rampage more

[grand vale]

Which one, the oh?

the weapon you replace

Because afaik you don't replace it

you keep the crafted oh for bis

it should be even more so now that crafted and regular myth are only 3 ilvl apart and not 4 like before nilhammer update

[frozen nacelle]

True

[grand vale]

just check the amount of vault rolls you could get as prot vs fury

and take the one that's lower

but that depends on your loot pool, we don't know it

items from all the myth bosses you killed

[frozen nacelle]

no easy way to see that other than counting the items from the loot pools i assume?

[grand vale]

I guess so yes

use the fingers 😄

All 12 of them

erm i mean

10

10 of course

[frozen nacelle]

Alrighty thx

https://wow-loot-table.vercel.app/ found this witch somewhat helps

does the vault loot table count every bosses you kill that week or all time kills even if not recleared?

[modest condor]

all time kills

[viral falcon]

What is the best combat pot to use? Is it interchangeable based on certain pulls/bosses?

[modest condor]

reck is the best pot if your highest stat isnt haste, if it is haste then use light's potential

[viral falcon]

Okay thanks, I’ve been using light pot when bloodlust and reck without

[modest condor]

that works

it does look at rating, not %

but the idea is that getting haste during lust is useless so using reck outside of lust is fine even if it gives haste

[viral falcon]

I was using reck all the time at the start of the season and kept fucking my inputs when I used it with lust

[modest condor]

it's more just that haste does almost nothing for us above 100% and lust already gets us pretty close to 100% so the pot is practically only increasing your auto attack speed

[viral falcon]

Oh really, anytime I used it felt like I was spamming so fast my action bars couldn’t keep up

But yeah I’ll stick to light with lust and reck without

Ty

[remote badge]

Just wanted to make sure I’m not fucking it up - we really shouldn’t hold rampage at all right? Guides say hold it if you’ve still got enrage but it’s our highest dmg ability so we would want to be spending that rage asap no?

[opaque mortar]

The argument for holding is so you can always keep enrage up as long as you aren't capping rage by holding it.
Burst wise it's better to dump it but if you end up losing out on enrage uptime it's a net loss. That's why most guides it's rampage over 100 or if enrage will expire

[modest condor]

rampage casts are based on rage generated, not cooldown, casting it early doesnt get you more rampages it just means your next one is delayed

as long as you're not rage capped you're not losing rampage casts by holding it for 1 or 2 more gcds

[surreal wedge]

the DK left after the first boss, as only an 11 but we basically 4 manned it and timed it with 3 minutes left 12 min before server reset lol

[undone flower]

Those are the funniest keys

[surreal wedge]

to be fair, even on pull one he was only doin like 50k, and it was his key, dunno ho he pushed it so much lol

[undone flower]

Launched 30 min before server down, worst rat alt you’ve ever seen

[surreal wedge]

but also I feel like at 240 with half 220 rare gear you could pull more than 50k on the first pull of MT as udk

I have one more run of MT and I'll have literally everything off the table on myth track

then I guess I'll probably run... fuck I don't know

ATP I should craft my bracers and offhand, then I should be high enough Ilvl and damage to get into chim pugs, so I'll probably try that route for aln, then I guess roll seat for the gloves?

and cry when it takes me 4 weeks because that table is SO inflated.

[bitter palm]

in prot loot spec

u cant get vestige

the other fuckass trinket

[surreal wedge]

oh for Gaze? yeah I know, the inflated loot pool I as talkin about was Seat

[undone flower]

I used 1 roll for the gloves

[astral gale]

Guys, question, how many targets should be, so I can prio whirlwind above non proc execute and RB?

[random shadow]

Ha jokes on you i got them in vault

[coarse nest]

Pog Gz

[winter shoal]

WW > RB on 3 or more targets. WW is only above exe (regardless of procs) if you need to refresh stacks

[peak plaza]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/mGAxVknC7Q9TRych/hV2DAB3qr4LTwfQ7?fight=3%2C44&type=damage-done&source=2%2CXulron

how is BS and reap dmg so much less? am i missplaying smth?

[unborn musk]

I used 2 😁. Happy bros

[warm swift]

started playing wow on midnight and only class I've played so far is thane fury. Should i experiment with Slayer after the recent updates? Is it more fun/efficient? I mostly play mythic+

[unborn musk]

Fun depends on your definition. Neither playstyle is inherently harder/easier. After playing Thane this season I'm not really keen on going back to Slayer and track Whirlwind buffs, or have unsynched cooldowns. I can just turn my brain off and pump. You are also way tankier as thane

On the other hand I miss pressing executes and having 20 eargasms per pull.

[lusty jungle]

Imagine playing warrior

[uneven path]

wtf

[olive wraith]

Why the dk slacking

[lapis rose]

guys can i reflect chain in seat?

[wispy thistle]

nope

[spare steppe]

What was that oO

[wispy thistle]

you can zerker rage it off

with it talented

[lapis rose]

hm i just saw streamer press reflect and chain now even take him, maybe his healer have 1ping and insta off it

[wispy thistle]

did they get freedom or tigers lust?

[lapis rose]

freedom

[wispy thistle]

freedom removes it

[lapis rose]

but it was so fast like its reflect i thought

[warped gyro]

You can pre freedom it

[wispy thistle]

thres a ton of abilities this season i feel like should be reflectable but arent

[fallen solstice]

you can berserker's rage with the talent that removes slowing effects

[uneven path]

Well the chain is "slow" so if you BS or you play talent for the Berserker rage

[smoky nacelle]

https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide

[uneven path]

You can remove it

[uneven path]

I think he pressed reflect to reduce the inicial dmg since its magic dmg

[raw magnet]

That's interesting info. Didn't know that.

Though wish berserkers rage or roar removed dragons fear debuff

Just temporarily makes you immune but debuff still there

[burnt oxide]

Enough time for any healer to react

[spare steppe]

They just removed cap on upgrade crests

[smoky nacelle]

we up boys

[vestal root]

my cocje

[thick fossil]

You can remove it with our talent that makes us break fear, and cleanse slows.

I was hopeful it would clean anyone in range, but sadly no.

[hardy cargo]

assuming slayer, you have zerker rage, charge, and bladestorm which all will either remove/immune it

charge and zerker rage are also reliant on having a specific talent

[tranquil field]

You can also Shadowmeld it if you’re a night elf.

[lapis rose]

sadly im not

im orc...

[fading sky]

Imagine reflectin chain onto mob

[unborn musk]

Charge removes snares?

[bold carbon]

so is RB below whirlwind in prio for slayer even if rend is already upi

[hardy cargo]

if slayer, with a specific talent yes

[thick fossil]

That would be really nice. Lol

[unborn musk]

Thanks

[hardy cargo]

relentless pursuit, row 1 column 3 (from the left) in slayer tree its a choice node

[hardy cargo]

in aoe, yes

[bold carbon]

is it above RB in ST too if rend isnt up?

[hardy cargo]

on ST im not entirely sure, but I dont even worry about rend since its a pretty small optimization

[winter shoal]

In single target, refresh rend > RB > WW

if rend is in pandemic window

[hardy cargo]

is it better to just press ww assuming imp ww talented

or is manual rend button king

ttip dam is prety close between ww and rend initial and ww gives rage

[winter shoal]

manual rend is ever so slightly better but not worth worrying about if you don't want to

<0.1% IIRC

[warm swift]

would i enjoy unholy dk? Ive only played warrior in this game.

[fading sky]

Tbh

Its pretty boorin esp raid

M+ at least u use dnd

[warm swift]

any suggestions for a melee alt? mostly playing M+

[spare flame]

what a dogshit ass vault

god bless bonus rolls from vault

[fading sky]

Frost dk mby?

[fading sky]

Keep in mind dk does no dmg outside cds

[warm swift]

hmm im checking the archon tier list and saw unholy dk at the top, assumed it does good damage at the moment

figured id have faster invites if i have a meta class lol

[olive wraith]

Then try it out

[winter shoal]

tier lists are fake and warrior is good

if you want to play warrior, play warrior

if you want to play dk, play dk

[random shadow]

Who in their right minds wanna play dk

[ember leaf]

whats the best rings to roll for

[olive wraith]

Whatever sims best

[bitter palm]

npx 2 set generalyl

[ember leaf]

why the cantrip rings had to be in npx

[bitter palm]

i assume u dont have access to lura ring

[ember leaf]

that dungeon sucks dickcockballs

i do not

[spare steppe]

Archon is a data aggregate not a source of what is best

[light tapir]

A second fury warrior. Two is better than one

[rugged cedar]

Monk is super fun but squishy. Survival is also great. I hate it when ret is good but it is good

[spare flame]

anyone else hates maisara? bro, theres nothing fun in that dungeon

i despise that place

[frank dawn]

yeah fuck it

[winter shoal]

Not even close to the worst dungeon this season

It's pretty chill

[ember leaf]

I just dont like the aesthetic also feels a bit clusterfucky for me

it aint the worst gameplay wise for sure

[young swan]

too much walking

[sage ridge]

I think Seat is the worst dungeon

I dislike all 4 bosses

[winter shoal]

MC is the worst by a mile

[sage ridge]

Really?

I don't mind it

The 2nd boss is a pain

[winter shoal]

Just a bunch of annoying stuff

nothing super difficult, just obnoxious

[wispy thistle]

the only thing that makes the 2nd boss manageble is ccing an add so it insta explodes

[sage ridge]

The trash is annoying in MC but I absolutely hate the Seat bosses

[young swan]

why?

damage amps own

[sage ridge]

That boss fight still sucks

The 3rd boss might be my least favorite boss of the season

[young swan]

feel like 2nd boss maisara is just worse

or 3rd

[sage ridge]

The 2nd one isn't really all that bad

[bitter palm]

how many slots do i need for 6 vault tokens

[young swan]

3 total

i did 2 raid + 1 dungeon

and got 6

[bitter palm]

i for some reason thouhgt i needed 6

ty

[winter shoal]

Nah it's 2 per slot

btw cone

can you send the tactical edge wa

I also finally added def stance reminder to curseforge https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/defensive-stance-reminder

[sage ridge]

Can't you just add Defensive Stance to your buff tracker on cdm

[bitter palm]

i crashed out

trying to anchor it to cdm

and deleted wa addon

[warm crag]

reporting this addon for malware and you in this discord for posting this here not in #promotion

[bitter palm]

reporting this addon for malware and you in this discord for posting this here not in #promotion

[bitter palm]

i think its doable

cause cdm makes a frame for each buff

so u could prolly calculate and move it dynamically

[hardy cargo]

reporting this addon for malware and you in this discord for posting this here not in ⁠promotion

[winter shoal]

Actually fair point thank you Sponger

[warm crag]

post it in promotion, her react it and i will also her react it

well done

[winter shoal]

CDM addons re-render the buff frames all the dang time I think, at least if you're dynamically centering them

So that might cause issues

I'm not really a knower though

[warm crag]

also her react this message (final request)

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-slap-hey-you-play-time-gif-17574997

[slim coral]

who's ready for 12.1 tier sets to get datamined

[olive wraith]

Yes please

[bitter palm]

raging blow damage increased by 4000%

(still does less than ww on 5t+)

and ofc

[slim coral]

[bitter palm]

odyns fury damage increasd by 10%

[olive wraith]

Nono this is the tier where rb increases your next bt damage by 25% and bt increases your next rb damage by 10%

[grave hearth]

thane

[olive wraith]

Slayer

Colossus

[merry scaffold]

Raidbots is giving me that "you have 2 secondary stats close together so results may look off" when simming with potion of recklessness

Should I just sim without potion until my stats level out abit once I get my last few upgrades? Only asking because without it everything looks around what I needed before I got Gaze (the item that caused all this) but with potion it wants me to replace a lot more things for like 2% boosts each

[past pivot]

Or sim all the potions

[sullen dove]

opened the bountiful chest with a key?

[past pivot]

nope, that was it. TY

[wispy thistle]

sim with lights potential, if you have haste an mastery close together it can affect the sim especially if you have a haste trinket

[merry scaffold]

Gotcha I'll play around with it

[ember leaf]

new tierset: removes every skill and autoattacks but makes rampage deal 100000% more damage

[scarlet swift]

You know what would be sick? Every other Rampage auto-casts ww for aoe stacks

[dusky cipher]

Rampage causes enrage to stack when over 5 seconds for double effect.

Giga 4 set

[scarlet swift]

My Hunter at 250ilvl crits higher than my 280 warrior executes, pathetic

Warrior dev needs to be replaced

[dusky cipher]

Hehe

It seems warrior has become the sustain DPS

No real burst

[scarlet swift]

Every fight demands burst, it needs to be fixed

Ava/Reck, free baseline AND 45sec cd

[dusky cipher]

AA first pull my hunter hits around 800k DPS whereas my warrior around 550k. Both the same item level. But over the dungeon I have higher overall dps on my warrior

[scarlet swift]

Hunter gives lust though 😉

[dusky cipher]

Yeah nice Phys buff from wars too

[scarlet swift]

Also, what’s your dmg taken diff

[dusky cipher]

Well

Haha

Would be much higher on war for sure

[olive wraith]

Random metric means warrior dev is bad

[dusky cipher]

I think it's a shame execute is so lackluster now

Should be way more powerful

[modest condor]

swordfish abusing yellow powers to react smh my head

[sullen dove]

Guys if I press wither on destro lock it does more damage than pressing rend on fury

can we fix this fucking game please

[unreal onyx]

make rend great again

main spender button when

[untold quail]

but actually imagine a bleed spec like PoE

[past pivot]

Bring back spamstring ...

[olive wraith]

Just make any bleed relevant and id be much happier

Or delete bleeds idc

[merry scaffold]

Honestly I think not having massive burst has ruined some pugs for me, at least early on. We will have a P1 wipe on the boss and leads want to trim and start kicking warriors because we don't have anything to do an extra 50k DPS during lust phase like most other classes lol

Even though once the fight goes on we'll slowly rise closer to the top since we do really good substained damage

[untold quail]

I mean tbh bleed specs are so hard to make fun - even peak assa rogue was when you had fat envenoms

[stoic loom]

U dont have to have bleeds as main damage

but if u have bleeds i think they should do damage

seeing cold steel do 2% of ur damage is so w/e

loved it in bfa when it did 15-20%

[smoky vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902189324341227562/1241723213290143856/piabuse-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[strong monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/gloop-gif-25555044

[olive wraith]

They should do something other than passive damage

5 bleeds with no gameplay interactions is stupid

[scarlet swift]

Brother, there’s plenty of metrics

[olive wraith]

Sure. But a singular crit doing less then some other arbitrary ability is a hot take

[scarlet swift]

The real complaints are like beating a dead horse, might as well complain about arbitrary things at this point

[drowsy heron]

felt the same

[scarlet swift]

You can sell it to repair 1 item after 1 wipe

[glacial path]

i'm looking at logs for m+ and it seems like everyone is mainly playing slayer now for most keys. anyone here playing it or still on thane?

[winter shoal]

people play both, they perform similarly

[spare steppe]

Rend is a stupid button that they should have never added

[plush maple]

^

[minor pendant]

How come the fury warrior doesn’t have you take a single defensive? Am I missing something.

In m+

[languid willow]

I play thane in Seat because that key hurts like hell

[spare flame]

you can take 1 point off cruelty and talent into enraged regeneration

or take stance mastery and use def stance before shit goes off

[spare flame]

this for slayer, you take off massacre for thane if i recall correctly

[minor pendant]

Thanks!

[plush maple]

They will fix talents next expansion

[languid willow]

[olive wraith]

Ya then we get a 6th bleed

They give us TR back and claim it’s iconic

[pearl gate]

quick qn - do u guys set prot loot for vault so that chances of gaze dropping is higher?

[slim pollen]

Depends what bosses you have killed. You would have to go over and check the loot pool so you don't end up with like 15 shields in the pool instead of 3x 2handers or something

[pearl gate]

only mythic chim and 1st 2 bosses. The rest are heroic. Gotcha ill check for those 3 bosses then tks

[rapid helm]

Does an addon exist that will change your rage bar (cdm/bcdm) when it hits 110 rage?

Also, I'm adjusting to the APM of fury from a devourer DH. Kinda rough. Does anyone have something that makes tracking whirlwind buff easier? Are most people just using CDM and having it on the right of the character, or using audio effects in cdm to track when it falls off? Trying to figure out the best way to track this without having to focus on it so I can avoid mechanics.

[olive wraith]

No

[sullen dove]

yea i mean u lose the shit trinket and gain a shield from first boss in the loot pool

so gaze chances dont change

and u lose any possible weapons out of m+ if you still need one

[spare flame]

do yall save bladestorm for first set of adds in averzian?

[smoky vale]

wtf is averzian

first boss of voidspire?

[brittle crow]

if u send on pull its back for adds

[brittle crow]

warrior main read challenge...

(impossible)

[karmic skiff]

do trinkets not sim properly in raidbots? everything calls for gaze/heart/puzzlebox. but they sim pretty bad for me vs my Warbanner and Guldon

[sullen dove]

uh i mean all depends on the rest of your ilvl and stuff, sounds like might be kinda lowish ilvl? and guidon typically shouldnt be that insane but maybe if you dont have a lot of haste it wants u to use that to get more

might suggest trying to see if swapping to some more gear with haste on it turns out more favorably

[sullen dove]

well guidon is halfway useable but not ideal but warbanner rly shouldnt be that huge

o well.. idk you comparing against like 298 gaze and stuff?

[karmic skiff]

yea, single target and dungeon slice (i typically use single target)

[warm crag]

@dapper goblet 20 minutes until slork

[karmic skiff]

im still gonna get them and try, just thought it was odd

[sullen dove]

hmge

are you currently mastery flasked? you might have a lot of inherent mastery

[karmic skiff]

like based on all info i can find my trinkets are D tier lmfao

[sullen dove]

im at 45% with a flask

so maybe ur a little over on how much mastery u want

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusted-gif-3796244731295535628

[karmic skiff]

this is with flask

[sullen dove]

wack

[warm crag]

evil gif

im now a seven main unfortunately

i will try to suppress the stereotype to be racist

[karmic skiff]

maybe ill re-gem for hastee since im kinda low

[modest condor]

almost 2chested an 18 academy, little bit more gear and we're gaming

[sullen dove]

260 ilvls in 18s

[warm crag]

you call it 2 chests yet there is only ever one chest. curious?

[modest condor]

[warm crag]

also you wouldve 2 chested it as arms

[sullen dove]

legion terminology brainwashed

10 year old term

not been relevant since then

gg

[modest condor]

no as arms i would have died 15 times and done half my overall

[warm crag]

this yellow man self reports as a noob

[modest condor]

real

[warm crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/624244530954108958/923935294384902195/324E8501-FC46-415E-AC40-CE386674B942.gif?ex=6a0dbbcc&is=6a0c6a4c&hm=b50a836eabdb75dc10f918bc2e8b8ddeb7febc8b24140f7735ac83681ce67328&

[sullen dove]

words of wisdom

[dapper goblet]

so where is he

[woven valley]

chinese translation slop is amazing

[warm crag]

Check your heart

[dapper goblet]

pretty sure you could play as him and a couple others many moons ago

in that sandbox mode

[obsidian brook]

Starting messing around with Fury and I noticed builds don't run Enraged Regeneration, are we just relying on Spell Reflect and Defensive Stance completely?

[regal marten]

You only need Enraged Around maybe +19s

Then you see ppl drop 5% dmg on BT for it

You only have 10% DR from being enraged (which is not all the time), and switching to Def Stance is kinda eh on fury

[obsidian brook]

So we just face tank all damage?

[modest condor]

i mean stance mastery makes defensive stance the same DR as enraged regen on a 3 second cooldown

[regal marten]

Yea but from experience you kinda lose rage cause less attack speed

I had runs where I forgot to switch stances and no rage

[regal marten]

You are plate so you can survive a lot up till +18s.

[sullen dove]

dont think losing 3% attack speed is ending ur rage

[regal marten]

Also impending victory

[modest condor]

auto attacks are only a small portion of our rage and 3% attack speed is negligible

[regal marten]

Idk I felt a difference in it

[modest condor]

you're losing like 1% of your rage generation in defensive stance

[sullen dove]

and ur also not meant to stay in it for longer than like a few seconds lul

[regal marten]

Yea ig you're right

[winter shoal]

bro thinks this is classic wow

[sullen dove]

youre a classic wow

[winter shoal]

Biggest insult ever thrown at me

[regal marten]

I mean why would you go def stance anyway. It's only the dispersal in MT that you'd wanna switch

Or Silence Wave

[young swan]

yeah its really not a tangible loss, anything you "feel" is basically a placebo

[regal marten]

Maybe you're right yea. Sometimes server respond slower to my abilities too

So I think no rage or haste

[sullen dove]

the more significant loss is just doing 10% less dmg in dstance

[young swan]

this is a legit problem so would not be surprised if that was it

[regal marten]

I mean higher keys you still need to dps no

It's like saying you press Execute cause Imminent Demise is available

[young swan]

yeah but its 10% loss over 3 seconds, unless if you happen to press dstance the second you press bladestorm or something it doesnt matter

[modest condor]

also in higher keys you do play enraged regen

[regal marten]

Yea I was talking lower keys

[sullen dove]

staying alive gooder than taking little dmg loss

yea then u never have to press dstance ever

just spell reflect or IV

[regal marten]

I just said in lower keys

[modest condor]

i dont think you even need to press defensives below like a 15 as fury

[regal marten]

Yea you're just plate

[modest condor]

(you still should)

i just spent 3 minutes fighting the last boss in academy on a +18 without a healer earlier

fury just doesnt die

[regal marten]

Well prev guy asked why we don't take enraged and I assumed low rio so I said below +18 don't worry about it, not even defensive stance

[regal marten]

I mean what does last boss cast on you, just one DoT that's 5s I think

[modest condor]

random bolts

[regal marten]

Oh yea

[modest condor]

and since i was the only dps left alive they always went on me

[regal marten]

Idk I felt very weak on Fury the other day

On Skyreach you're kinda cooked

[sullen dove]

am i allowed to watch fsf without watching the 57 other fate series before it or it wouldnt hit

[modest condor]

sure but it wouldnt be as fun

[sullen dove]

ugh

[young swan]

theres like one very specific dynamic that would be worse because you dont know character histories

it would still be good, but it would definitely be a better experience with like

some fate under your belt

[regal marten]

I watched Zero and then couldn't continue it after

[modest condor]

the anime assumes you're already familiar with how the holy grail war works

[narrow kiln]

anyone know what the best neck is for us from m+

is it the pit neck

[regal marten]

Depends on ur stats

I play pit Neck, some play Salhadaar neck. Maybe Aleria neck BiS cause you get free stuff

[young swan]

they all kinda suck

would just take what you can get

[sullen dove]

music from it pretty epic

[simple mural]

Is there a target count that we just spam ww rather than cleaving normal rotation with imp ww?

[winter shoal]

Only WW > RB on 3+ targets

everything else is normal prio as slayer

[simple mural]

Bet. Swapped back to fury from playing arms all season and I’m surprised by how much dmg ww is doing

[winter shoal]

It's not a ton, but neither is RB so /shrug

[spare flame]

rb is so ass it's making ww look good

[regal marten]

If you play thane isn't there loss on 3 targets with TC?

[winter shoal]

Wym

Thane only prios TC (other than to maintain stacks) on 7+ targets

[regal marten]

On paper it does less than BT-RB

Then spam it 4+ targets no Avatar

[delicate lion]

random noob warrior question.
Do you guys swap between thane and slayer depending on how much single target your team has?
Or is one just clearly better

[winter shoal]

BT is over TC in aoe as thane

TC is over RB

in aoe

[regal marten]

For TB procs or?

[regal marten]

It's more like if you can get Bladestorm by the next pack play Slayer

They are a bit equal on ST

[delicate lion]

Ah I see

[winter shoal]

Honestly you can just play whichever you prefer

[delicate lion]

I have been practicing getting my rotation right

[winter shoal]

In M+ at least

[delicate lion]

And my slayer single target clears my thane. But group thane clears my group slayer

[winter shoal]

There shouldn't be a HUGE difference between them

[regal marten]

On Nexus Point for example there's pack after pack pull they die too fast for your next Bladestorm.

[winter shoal]

like a couple % either way

[regal marten]

Yea and Thane pops back on 35%

[delicate lion]

Ah I see. I might go thane then, group damage feels good

What are you guys running

[winter shoal]

Wowhead M+ thane build is always good

[fickle stirrup]

If I wanna bonus roll for a Myth Gaze do I swap my loot spec to prot before the kill or does it not matter?

[regal marten]

If less items you can

[winter shoal]

Yes swap to prot before using the bonus roll

removes the oozing trinket from the loot pool

[odd crater]

Finally did it

[fickle stirrup]

ty!

[winter shoal]

any gazers?

[arctic copper]

anyone know if fury is better for Beloren prog than arms? hard to tell from logs

[sullen dove]

arms is better if you need to kill boss egg but unlikely that should be an issue

fury is better in p1 to cleave bird adds down which is arguably more dangerous

[regal marten]

I'd play Thane if I were you tbh. On 35% you help a lot

[sullen dove]

up to you really

[arctic copper]

ok thanks wordish

yeah im more focused on what helps the guild on the 'progression hard' part

[regal marten]

Towards the end is risky cause more stacks of dot so you wanna end it

[sullen dove]

can just see how egg dps looks around first egg and make swap there both specs are fine for their own reasons

[odd crater]

Nope, I got the stupid set item thing, and the gaze went to a hunter

[sullen dove]

egg just usually non issue by now

with extension and high ilvl

[regal marten]

Fr?

[arctic copper]

👍 appreciate the feedback

[mint moat]

for slurry are we just spamming WW if nothing is uo

[regal marten]

Checking logs brb

[mint moat]

up*

[regal marten]

Yea

[winter shoal]

We killed bird the first time we saw 2nd egg

with a dps dead

and 5 fewer ilvl

[mint moat]

also how much are we pooling for rampage with CDS up or are you just sending ramp until we are out

[winter shoal]

and half our raid didn't have the raid buff

[winter shoal]

You don't pool at all, reck generates enough rage to ramp

[scarlet swift]

Daddy dont need viagra no more

[mint moat]

i mean are we trying to get to 100 rage before ramp or are we just slamming rampage

[winter shoal]

I played thane and I did like 30% more add dam than anyone else, my egg dam was bad but that doesn't matter atp

[arctic copper]

k

[mint moat]

basically are we sending rampage without 100 rage because its up or are we weaving BB and WWs till 100 rage then send rampage

[winter shoal]

I lied it was more like 50% more add dam

[sullen dove]

padbowwl57 i see

[winter shoal]

(during reck)
high rage ramp > exe (as slayer) > BB > low rage ramp > CB

[winter shoal]

I was just filling my role in the raid group (being shameless)

[regal marten]

Wouldn't you want to leave execute for last if imminent demise?

[winter shoal]

You don't play around immdem

I think the giga overcooked Sarri APL does, but it's such a small optimization that it isn't worth worrying about

[regal marten]

It improved my dps. When nothing was available or was about to end/2 stacks I'd press it

So execute>Ramp gives more dps than Ramp>BB?

I mean not too much to worry about with right preset you can press all 3 sort of but still

[winter shoal]

I'm not sure I follow

As slayer, during reck
high rage ramp > exe > bb > low rage ramp > cb

[regal marten]

Wouldn't you wanna press bb instead of execute

Like swap their prio

[winter shoal]

That used to be the case, with the exe buffs a week or two ago they switched

Just because raw exe dam is so high

[regal marten]

Omg I thought that was Slayer only

That's insane

Mb then

[winter shoal]

Oh yes for thane you do BB > exe

For slayer it's exe > BB

technically for thane it's
high rage ramp > 2TB > BB > low rage ramp > 1TB > exe

[scenic coyote]

why the switch the slayer from thane in keys ?

[narrow kiln]

is simming voidclaw gauntlets inaccurate or something cause at 289 its simming 1.1k dps lower than my current 276 tier gloves

[sullen dove]

reck pot moment probably

[compact knot]

are you using reck pot

[undone flower]

You forgot TB 2 stack

[narrow kiln]

no does using those gloves require that

[compact knot]

in your sim

[winter shoal]

you are correct ty happy

[narrow kiln]

nah i use lights potential but ill try it with reck pot ty

[compact knot]

the gloves shouldnt be simming as a downgrade with lights potential

ur doing smth wrong

[sullen dove]

not breaking 4set i hope too

[compact knot]

^

also that

[sullen dove]

if not the reck pot

[compact knot]

is it breaking 4 set

[regal marten]

I feel like Thane requires such a finesse to play

[winter shoal]

Idk just press one of ramp/bt/TB and you're probably close enough

[regal marten]

I like it in some way but got tired after so many TC

[undone flower]

It is the same rotation than slayer

Just exec replace tb

[regal marten]

You need to manage your rage better

[undone flower]

wdym

[regal marten]

Thane you just BT RB Rampage and keep TB/ Execute safer for later on ST if nothing is available so you get more rage. AoE is also a bit tricky, sometimes you press an RB too

But Slayer gets a lot of Imminet Demise so you don't worry much about when to press RB or about TC/WW

[sullen dove]

but yea whatever you use in game what ur sim setting is set to is the primary focus, only 2 reasonable things that would show those gloves being that horrible is ur using reck pot in your sim and gloves put you under mastery threshold and u lose mastery reck pot and get something horrible like haste which is a lot of dps loss, or you break your 4set swapping from tier gloves to that, but if ur wearing 4 other tier pieces its not that then

if its not either of those 2 things tho then idk can link maybe for further perusal

[ocean ore]

How low are yalls groups getting on egg first phase?

[winter shoal]

35% or so

that was last week so should be more like 32-33% this week if we weren't extending lura

[undone flower]

Yeah it ranges from 27%- 35%

My guild did a break last week so I didn’t kill beloren yet

[narrow kiln]

oh yeah i forgot to add my helm as a tier piece whoops lol ty for mentioning it

[sullen dove]

yerp

helm good tierpiece for fury too heavy mast we like

[short pivot]

Wondering how many talents spec settings that you guys have?
most of the time im playing thane for M+ and Raid
but starting to adjust my playstyle to slayer as well for ST Raid

1. Thane M+
2. Slayer Raid ST

is that enough ?

[undone flower]

Raid st, raid AoE, m+ x2

So 6 talent settings

I will not count PvP ones

Sometime I have a talent setting for 1 specific boss but that is not the case this raid

[short pivot]

well i guess i need to expand my gameplay then instead of being lazy use Thane AOE for everything

[ember leaf]

anyone got a working stance switch macro

[winter shoal]

wowhead has them https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/addons-macro-ui-imports

[winter shoal]

I have st, raid aoe, and M+ for both thane and slayer

[undone flower]

My Raid AoE /m+ are the same spec talents, it’s the class tree I pick too diff things it would be painful to change each time

[subtle lynx]

Can you bonus roll a mythic+ multiple times a week or is it locked out after one?

[undone flower]

You can roll multiple time yes

[subtle lynx]

Nice thanks

[undone flower]

Raid bosses : you can’t loot the boss multiple times per week anyway

And in mythic you can’t kill the boss multiple times per week

[dim spindle]

I'm such a filthy casual m+ enjoyer I completely forgot to switch my spec to raid/boss appropriate builds.

Again

But hey at least I did good on paladins

It's hard to take heroic raid seriously enough to use precious brain power to remember such things, tbf

[narrow kiln]

do yall think leech or avoidance is better

[winter shoal]

bit of both

[hardy cargo]

im a big leech enjoyer

[full geyser]

speed or leech?

[ember leaf]

why are the voidcores letting me upgrade my crafted weapon again

[keen kindle]

if I could choose probally speed

[full geyser]

thanks, Certified Misinformation Clown, i will take that advice at face value

[keen kindle]

This name is so peak

But for real, I think speed is just more universally applicable

I notice a tiny bit of speed more then I do a tiny bit of leech

[full geyser]

i thought the bonus speed from Frenzied Enrage overwrote speed stat if it was lower

[keen kindle]

....it shouldn't?

[silk wharf]

No, it didn't stack with the meta gem in tww.

[full geyser]

ah that was it

[keen kindle]

still the case?

[silk wharf]

I don't think there is a speed meta is there?

Yea, just mana, crit, armor and all primary.

[keen kindle]

Did the meta gem not grant straight speed stat

That's an intresting bug

[silk wharf]

It granted % extra movement

2% I think, per gem color

[keen kindle]

oh

[full geyser]

we would've been too powerful

[silk wharf]

Indeed.

I still used it. Zooming

[hot shell]

Rogue boy in fury channel

[keen kindle]

I mean

I do enjoy fury as an off spec

Totally not cuz I wasn't paying attention to what channel I clicked again

[silk wharf]

THough, this talk of speed gems makes me wonder. How much speed it the super old gem after the squish?

[keen kindle]

There was a wowhead post about speed

and it...looks kinda bad post squish

[silk wharf]

yea, its only 12 speed. 1%

Not worth

[hot shell]

Ngl i played arms this tier cuz fury was looking pretty meh
With sporefall ill go fury ahain and play eogue if its better
Just wish fury dmg Profile wasnt so bad

[full geyser]

it's not, you're just playing it wrong

[keen kindle]

Fair

I mean

I just think current midnight fury is an abomination

[full geyser]

i miss old slayer

[hot shell]

Fury damage Profile is pad damage with prio dmg loss on aoe. Thats a bad Profile for dungeons

[keen kindle]

I miss any other incarnation of fury ngl

Shit I'd take RB spam over this atm

[hot shell]

Imagine fury with fob for ramage and it procs bt

[keen kindle]

Broken

[hot shell]

Well, yes. But imagine the fun

[keen kindle]

Honestly mostly

I really hate fury's apex

And also I kinda wish RB was an actual button

Also delete rend

[hot shell]

Oh i agree with the apex

[full geyser]

the apex is some boring shit

[keen kindle]

The apex just makes reck so painfully awkward

and just makes you spam rampage

[full geyser]

spell reflect apex when?

[hot shell]

Change apex give fury some funnel and itll increase the fun tenfold

[keen kindle]

Ngl man

if fury goes full in on funnel too there is no hope for warr getting anything outside of funnel

And I like funnel

It's cool

But I don't think it should be the entire class.

Thou genuinely, feel like if they reworked the apex into a completely different thing, I'd be okay with current fury and begrude rend and RB making DF slam blush

Correction: Arms df slam

[hot shell]

Remodel apex yes. Imo also remove the need for OF or change it too

[keen kindle]

OF is take it or leave it for me

Like I can live with it

But like

Imo prios for fury are altered too much in cds

Which kinda feels like whiplash for a CDR spec

espically with apex

[hot shell]

Thane is the most boring thing ever during cds ngl

[full geyser]

Thane CD aoe makes me want to stab my eyes out

[hot shell]

Thing is

Thane is enjoyable on prot

On fury... hell nah

[full geyser]

the problem is they made slayer so fucking boring

especially with the way RB is

[hot shell]

Its still better than RB>everything but.. yes

[full geyser]

idk man, i loved hitting that funky little RB

[hot shell]

They have reworked marksman 7 times in the past xpacs while fury got nothing. Its about time they do some major changes ngl

[full geyser]

yeah, if they're gonna change it, at least put it down completely

[keen kindle]

imo, RB should just be like

a bit below BT

Or right below BT

Rampage above them both

That's my preffered fury

[hot shell]

Thing is that RB does NOTHING other than the raw damage, and if you take full rb dmg it will be higher than bt

[full geyser]

i loved counting with last expac slayer, felt like execute mattered

[keen kindle]

I mean I can see it

Even if having 4 conditionals on execute was kinda cringe

[hot shell]

Im just in love with being overwhelmed by Outlaw rn

So much shit to press

Then i go to warr and be like.. ye whatever, 3 buttons all i do

[keen kindle]

Ngl outlaw has that fury feel

In terms of flow (until u roll a 1

[hot shell]

Dude i swear

[keen kindle]

DIE PURPLE DIE

[hot shell]

Without AR i feel like i roll a 1 in 9 out of 10 rolls

[keen kindle]

Yeahhh

Its even worse if you loose sleight of hand....which i think you dont anymore?

[woven valley]

started beloren prog tonight only had an hour on it and got the egg phase to like 48 percent with some deaths

[hot shell]

I dont know what that is tbh

[woven valley]

feels good

[keen kindle]

It gives roll the bones a 20% higher chance to roll higher outcomes

[hot shell]

Oh

So basically what AR does now but not guaranteed

[full geyser]

make mastery affect all physical damage, let us do some crazy shit with stupid trinkets

[hot shell]

Supercharged dice guarantees a +1 roll on your next dice

[keen kindle]

Quite frankly

After fury is the reason trinkets dont nowadays kinda?

Id be shocked if blizz ever let anything that isnt pure versa interact with trinkies

[chilly fractal]

Sins of the Draught

[keen kindle]

Yupppp

[hot shell]

Did you resub yet

[keen kindle]

I didnt even unsub

Mostly cuz i think I do 6 months

[hot shell]

Didnt you say you dont have a sub rn

[pliant jackal]

he doesn't do subs he does contracts

he is locked in for 5 years

[keen kindle]

Man

I just realized

I never unsub from wow

Not even when I didnt play tww s3 at all

[hot shell]

Dude i throw so much money at Blizz its crazy

[keen kindle]

Same

[hot shell]

There is times where i race change 4-5 times a week cause i wanna see something different

[pliant jackal]

only reason i even decided to play this xpac was the auto renewal and i was too lazy to get a refund

[keen kindle]

....fair

[pliant jackal]

but its a pretty decent xpac so i think its worth the money

[hot shell]

Ngl, i LOVE the gearing System, even if its rng

Brings so much good stuff to m+ enjoyers who dont wanna raid

[keen kindle]

I think wow is the only mmo where I interact with gearing and it isnt CBT

[pliant jackal]

crucible being that over tuned was dumb tho

[keen kindle]

Or it just dosent exist

[pliant jackal]

made all the other trinkets dogshit

[keen kindle]

Did they ever nerf cruible

[pliant jackal]

i don't think so

[keen kindle]

Wtf

[hot shell]

Who cares about pre raid bis

[pliant jackal]

when you have like mythic raiders still using crucible its kind of wild

nah its not prebis

well it is but

like crucible depending on the class/spec will last till dragons if not farther

[hot shell]

Didnt they nerf it before raid release? Or does just no good other trinket drop before then for some

[compact knot]

its the best champion track trinket by a mile

[compact knot]

it did catch a nerf at some point

dont remember when

was before or during heroic week though

crucible only loses to the heroic versions of plume/heart/gaze

and its a 263 vs 276 trinket

[pliant jackal]

i believe auggies and healers still take it pretty far

[hot shell]

Holdon. Crucible loses to solarflare ?

[compact knot]

yes

[hot shell]

On hc traxk

[compact knot]

no

it beats solarflare 263 vs 276

[pliant jackal]

some of the mythic+ trinkets are just so ass

[compact knot]

or should

depends on character but

[hot shell]

Huh, interesting

I thought the nerf just put it right next to p much all heroic trinks

[compact knot]

it does yeah

it loses only to the trio of good raid trinkets

[hot shell]

Hey, atleast its not borrowed power

[compact knot]

we get that soon dont worry

[keen kindle]

Until .7

At least we dont carry it forward I hope

[hot shell]

Dont do that to me, i didnt read anything about .7 yet

[pliant jackal]

the nagas attack

in .7

[hot shell]

Again?

[keen kindle]

In .7 the titans return fr

[pliant jackal]

no

its a joke

i believe they are leaving that for the next xpac

they are setting up nagas shit i believe tho

[hot shell]

They have to. They all have to Die until next xpac

[pliant jackal]

i just want a whole xpac on the scarlet crusade

where is the promised scarlet crusade stuff

[keen kindle]

Man ya know what?

If that gives us SM in m+

Les go

[pliant jackal]

they could redesign some of the old dungeons

they have done it before

[hot shell]

Speaking of m+

Is there any votes or sth yet for s2 dungs

I wanna vote kings rest. Want that sword

[pliant jackal]

i don't want that dogshit plants dungeon

that i had to do in randoms

[hot shell]

Im p sure the 4 other MN dungs are guaranteed

Sooooo...

[keen kindle]

Na man

Den of nalorakk

Oh my god please rework it like Bracken

[hot shell]

That stupid plant dungeon will absolutely kill melee comps on first boss. Cant carry the lazer further out than like 2m of the plant, huge dmg loss

[pliant jackal]

maybe it was because it was group finder but holy shit blinding vale was awful

[keen kindle]

Voidscar sounds interesting

[pliant jackal]

murder row wasn't bad

[keen kindle]

Row has minigame

[pliant jackal]

oh yea den is going to be interesting

[keen kindle]

Those ALWAYS go well

Please fucking shoot den

[hot shell]

Murder row is gonna be absolute hell for tanks

[keen kindle]

So insta bricks

[hot shell]

Whatever dungs we will have, im super happy about AA being gone

[bitter palm]

there are also some delve

trinkets

that are surprisingly good

[compact knot]

the bongo is good

[keen kindle]

YO TRUEEEE

[bitter palm]

the one that just gives u 250 of ur highesat secondary

keepsakeo r something

that one simmed high for me

[compact knot]

the bongos are better then the keepsake

higher uptime

[pliant jackal]

i don't think i have any dungeons that i straight out hate this season

[compact knot]

i had the bongos on my ddh until i got gaze and vaelgors

[keen kindle]

Id say seat but seat as warrior is fun

[pliant jackal]

how so

[keen kindle]

Because I first did it was a rogue

And that suckkkkedddd

[compact knot]

i really dislike skyreach and nexus point

[keen kindle]

I can get reach