fury

[smoky vale]

for both prot and fury

[chrome summit]

Yeah raid is usually better unfortunately. But i cba raid so

[neat gazelle]

does WW buff bladestorm in fury slayer?

[sudden tusk]

M+. Gear is always close but raid gear is BiS 99% of the time

[sudden tusk]

No

[neat gazelle]

madox strikes me as a slayer fury kinda guy

[misty edge]

hes definitely a furry

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-eating-gif-25793804

[tardy needle]

sorry not a warrior player but getting loads of fury signs to keys lately - how does it stack up to arms?

[young swan]

pretty similar

colossus can be better if its pulled around/consistently has funnel on bosses, otherwise thane is probably generally better

[tardy needle]

tyty

[neat gazelle]

@young swan i see thane as better too. why do you think so many top dogs etc run slayer now?

[young swan]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

preference maybe

thane ST is maybe inflated in sims compared to in practice, so it's possible they just prefer slayer for that reason

its kind of impossible to see what spec they completed the keys as if they dont log, so its really misleading to try and deduce what they're playing from stuff like R.IO

[dull wedge]

slayer is better in every situation, no dif

[neat gazelle]

👀

Explain! @dull wedge

[dull wedge]

just playin 70-80 keys around since buffs

same group same dungeon but just 7-8k dmg above

overall

[neat gazelle]

Think that’s mainly the boss dam?

[dull wedge]

and slayer is doing 90-95k ST and thane 85-90k

[neat gazelle]

But isn’t thane aoe much more?

That doesn’t seem like a big diff in st

[dull wedge]

nope

doin first pull without aug and with bl slayer peeking 590-600k dps
thane is 530k-550k

[dim spindle]

ty for not saying "furry"

[neat gazelle]

You must be a god Tim

[dull wedge]

287 GS i dont know

[neat gazelle]

What keys you doing

[dull wedge]

u mean how high or wich one?

[neat gazelle]

How high

[dull wedge]

16-17

[neat gazelle]

Oh cool I’m working on my 17s now as well

[dull wedge]

im main tank so doin higher keys with prot pala and bear

[young swan]

yeah i mean slayers whole bit is doing burst damage

for aoe anyways

[spare flame]

how doable is it to pug M beloren?

[dull wedge]

fury is in good state now, maybe slacking in some raid bosses

[merry hatch]

I was doing my rotation on the st dummy and that’s my consistent dmg after 2 minutes

[young swan]

the inconsistency of slayer is quite irksome

[dull wedge]

irksome?

[young swan]

annoying, tedious, tiresome, tending to irk

[dull wedge]

ah

[smoky vale]

i need a lot more

[dim spindle]

If you're more comfortable with and enjoy 1 spec more than the other and they're both relatively close, naturally one will pull ahead of the other imo

And ofc your group, route, pull size, etc are factors

[young swan]

the fact you can only gain cdr from sudden death AND they made sudden death less consistent is just

so bad

[smoky vale]

i need evernight cyrene hyacine

[neat gazelle]

And which one is that phett….

[smoky vale]

blade

[neat gazelle]

😂

[smoky vale]

weapons too

[dim spindle]

Furry warrior ofc

[neat gazelle]

Slay or tha

[sudden tusk]

Every lura pull hoping to god you get a single reap proc in p1 from ramp

[smoky vale]

and i might need duplicates

[dim spindle]

Thane, haven't played slayer since last season

[sudden tusk]

That's too much lmao

[dim spindle]

Not implying one is better than the other, just saying they're close enough if anything

[sudden tusk]

I might throw like 100 bucks in

[dim spindle]

Comfort level is a massive buff

[neat gazelle]

Thane is so fucking easy huh lol

[sullen dove]

You only need like 80

guarantee

can prolly get weapon tho assume that’s rly good

or another character

[dim spindle]

Well sure it's easy after playing it long enough

Very forgiving, that's for sure. Can't really go wrong as long as you mash those CDs and don't do anything silly like mix in too many RBs or rage cap

[young swan]

a lot of people struggled with the priority at the start of the expansion

[sudden tusk]

I keep thinking about team 2 as well

Need to dump clara

[dim spindle]

One of the hardest things for me when I first switched to thane was keeping my twitchy fingers off the execute button

[sullen dove]

Clara still ok as like a single target ish herta but yea nun crazy

[neat gazelle]

You only press exe when it’s glowing right

[sudden tusk]

Isn't hard pity like 90 pulls tho

[dim spindle]

Not even, but that's probably part of it. Brain senses glowy, brain wants pressy

Glow = dopamine quite often

Just look at slot machines

[neat gazelle]

So what you’re saying is we never press exe? Or only ST?

[dim spindle]

You still press it, but not just because you get a proc

[sullen dove]

You are all so lovely btw I just love talking to you guys fr. I’m gonna go stare at myself in the mirror for five hours straight now

[dim spindle]

Aww ty, you're lovely too ❤️

Try saying "bloody mary" 3 times while you're in there. I hear it brings good luck

[candid falcon]

Does anyone know how long keystone deserter lasts? My fire alarm went off halfway thru a bad windrunners spire pug

[brittle crow]

happens all the time

[dim spindle]

wtf? m+ is higher prio than fire alarm

[sullen dove]

I been thinking… @smoky vale is kinda a bitch

[dim spindle]

fire alarms are just a suggestion

[candid falcon]

truth nuke

[dim spindle]

I only live on the 3rd floor so if worse comes to worst I can just make the leap

Tuck and roll, all good

[spark coral]

a heroiic leap truly

[dim spindle]

100%

[candid falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[dim spindle]

For real though I'm so old and withered I'd probably just crumble on impact

[candid falcon]

switch to pandaren for fall damage reduction

[dim spindle]

Good call

Besides it's not the fire. It's the smoke that gets ya

[spark coral]

just intercept the building manager on the way down

[candid falcon]

Anyway I haven't abandoned a key all season except for that, how long will it take to get that debuff off

[dim spindle]

30 minutes isnt it?

You should have a debuff you can hover over

[candid falcon]

oh I see. thank you

[dim spindle]

np, you filthy deserter you

So what caused the fire alarm to go off

[dim spindle]

Me when I'm in the middle of m+ and fire alarm goes off

[candid falcon]

a fire twin </3

its okay now but we had to get out

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-of-here-gif-24981088

[unborn musk]

I am sorry, but I find that hard to believe. Are you sure you were not splashing into the tank dummy, or use an armorless dummy?

I made that mistake in DF where I used the black dragon training dummy, which doesn't have armor, and my ST DPS was crazy

[smoky vale]

???

[sullen dove]

Did I stutter??? Punk

[smoky vale]

🙁

[spare flame]

yall think they'll nerf gaze for season 2?

i could see it

[smoky vale]

they nerf everything going into upcoming season

[hot shell]

Even warriors? Dang

[merry hatch]

Ummm idk I’m just testing it out on the regular dungeoneer training dummy

[unborn musk]

Umm... test it on the raid dummy

[dim spindle]

bad form, kermit

I mean, try diving into water like that

[wooden herald]

How did it go

[merry hatch]

Yea damage is in the same ballpark

[neat gazelle]

Bricked it but was doing good haha

[molten plover]

Any warrior buffs 😉 ?

[merry hatch]

Nvm you’re right lol both are at 70k after 2.5 minutes on the raid dummy

Slayer feels better tho

[olive wraith]

Yes

[sullen dove]

my demons got the better of me

[coarse nest]

[lean haven]

Correct me if im wrong, execute have more prio than bt now?

(Slayer i mean)_

[fallen ginkgo]

in st yes in aoe only when sd proc

[lean haven]

Ok, and how about prio in aoe for slayer? WW to apply 4x, bt, Ramp as rage spender, execute (prio over bt when procs) and rb? Or u dont want do use RB at all and spam WW?

[fickle vector]

Are there toy training dummies that are similar to the raid ST training dummy in silvermoon? I wanna go somewhere secluded and smash buttons there with out some aug evoker doing dragon shit near me

[neat gazelle]

Someone told me exe is always prio over bt

[lean haven]

Ive gladly asked Noxiv, but hes bussy ive guess 🙂

@edgy widget does Wowhead guides is still valid after patch? I mean about rotations?

[untold quail]

wowhead is always updated

Arch is wowhead wowhead is arch

[merry hatch]

Def prior exe over BT. I mainly use BT to generate rage in slayer

[lean haven]

What about WW in aoe? U dont want to press rb at all and use ww?

[olive wraith]

3+ ww>rb

[lean haven]

Or WW when 6+ targets, and bt when 5 and lower?

[merry hatch]

^^

[lean haven]

oke

AOE opener? ST opener? In wowhead Its REC+ramp for enrage, than Blasdestorm and only then Odyn. What ive seen on Noxiv, hes always ww+bt (thats understandable) then odyn and only then bladestorm.

[olive wraith]

Isn’t odyns first

[lean haven]

well y, thats what i mean

[boreal dove]

is tjere a target count just spam whirwind?

[olive wraith]

No

[olive wraith]

I was wrong. Ramp- bs-ramp-of

[merry hatch]

Situational like in AA I’m saving bladestorm for the hungry lashers. I personally macro reck and odyn together.

[lean haven]

yes, but top players dont do that in big aoe pulls

[olive wraith]

Are you a top player?

[lean haven]

nope

but there is always another mountain to climb ^^

[olive wraith]

Why would you macro these together

[merry hatch]

I like it better lol

Used to it with thane

[olive wraith]

They don’t sync though

So you’d need separate binds anyways

[burnt oxide]

Not really

You always try to use of in reck, so that works out. If reck is on cd you still want to use of and it does not trigger reck

So you can do this

[olive wraith]

And when you have rek, bs and of off cooldown?

[burnt oxide]

Then he uses reck and of together? He just cant bladestorm before of

Well depends

[olive wraith]

You wouldn’t want to bs before of/rek

[burnt oxide]

If he ONLY has the macro or if reck has a seperate bind

[olive wraith]

Exactly what I mean lol

[merry hatch]

Separate binds depending on situation

[olive wraith]

You do you

[merry hatch]

3.4k doing fine

[olive wraith]

I wouldn’t bother making a macro if it doesn’t reduce keybinds

[edgy widget]

bruh the patch was weeks ago at this point

[burnt oxide]

It is not optimal, but not the worst

But optimal if that recudes braindload

[merry hatch]

How would yall go about it?

[olive wraith]

I have diff keybinds

[burnt oxide]

Only thing i have macrod is avater+reck

And charge/IV

[olive wraith]

^

[burnt oxide]

Many occasions i want to of but not reck

[merry hatch]

Yea that’s what I had in thane but also with OF

[burnt oxide]

E.g. towards the end of a pull

Enough time to OF to fully go through, but not enough for the others to be worth

[merry hatch]

Kept it going with slayer but if it’s doing more harm than helping I rather change it lol

[olive wraith]

Like I said, you do you

[burnt oxide]

I would suggest trying it

Just need to build some new muscle memory but thats fine

[neat gazelle]

Do we hold bladestorm for reck always?

[merry hatch]

Ima switch it up and see how it goes , ty

[pine whale]

guys is there a limit on the voidshards we can farm and use ?

[burnt oxide]

No, holding always when you have a sd proc streak might loses you casts, adjust to situation

[neat gazelle]

Ooo I’m not even sure what that means haha

You mean the bladestorm buff that hits more people?

[burnt oxide]

Nope, unlimited

No sd is the execute proc

[pine whale]

ty

[burnt oxide]

Which reduces your cooldown

[neat gazelle]

Oh so you’re saying if I have those to send it cause it’ll be back up soon?

[burnt oxide]

If you have alot of proc (it is mostly rng) and you dont send BS with that luck, you might end up losing a cast

But you should adjust to situation

If reck is like 10 secs away, 2 rampage casts will align it

[neat gazelle]

Ok there’s times where I send reck and there’s like 20 sec on BS but time BS comes off reck had just worn off

[olive wraith]

For raid you hold up to 30s agaik

[burnt oxide]

Yeah if there is high value to get

[olive wraith]

You never hold rek for bs

Well maybe a very small amount of time

[burnt oxide]

As long as bs is during reck

[neat gazelle]

What if reck worn off

Bs is ip

And it’s glowing

😂

[olive wraith]

Send it

No sense waiting a minute

[neat gazelle]

True

[burnt oxide]

More like 40 seconds at this point, but yes

[neat gazelle]

You get a nice batch of those sd procs itl like back up nicely

[mental verge]

what should i sim guys? for st and m+

[compact knot]

For St id go into ST talents and sim: Patchwerk 1 target 5 minutes
for m+ id go aoe talents and pick between 2 things

Patchwerk 1 target 5 minutes
or
Patchwerk 5 target 5 minutes

[olive wraith]

St

[mental verge]

ok thank you

[odd granite]

does dslice work for fury?

or nah

works for outlaw

[compact knot]

i think dslice is just bait for every spec and class

and it is for fury

[odd granite]

hmm

[warm crag]

dslice nat maintained for fury

[strange drift]

lock and loaded

if i wont get the wep from vanguard/ring/trink from chimer im done

[split juniper]

I really like Kill or be killed but I can't decide how to include it. My warrior does +10 mythics, I'm not pushing anything crazy, what's my best build?

I know it's not optimal, I just like it

[neat gazelle]

does this look ok?

[winter shoal]

Probably best point to drop would be massacre or executioner's wrath for thane, or cruelty for slayer

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3v9BxNT3QtEryGoG7hdP8u

[olive wraith]

If you don’t care about being optimal take out literally anything

[storm rune]

boooo

[olive wraith]

[storm rune]

I'm boo'ing you

[wise wren]

Is thane or slayer doing better for M+?

[ember leaf]

tldr: about the same, thane is more consistent, fury has higher ST but still slightly under thane overall

[storm rune]

I like the slayer variant because you can grab ER

[neat gazelle]

tbh i dont think slayer is even that far behind thane in aoe

[storm rune]

not sure how big it is for either role to grab tho

[neat gazelle]

slightly, but i think it makes up for it in st

and its a bit more fun imo

[storm rune]

looking at the sims from Archi's may 5 update it looks like the diff is a rounding error

[midnight kraken]

Use Voidcore on Off hand or 2nd trinket? Confused as to the benefit of the off hand weapon dmg value

[winter shoal]

For me offhand was slightly better to do first, but you'll do both of them anyways so it doesn't really matter

[midnight kraken]

true

[winter shoal]

You can sim it in raidbots top gear

[warm crag]

just do more stuff and upgrade them both

not really much of a point when you can knock out a hc world tour in an hour or so and upgrade 2 things

[midnight kraken]

Yep very true, I just have no sense of the value of the offhand dmg overall

[icy whale]

you also get 3 for first 3 nightmare hunts

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral why have you not rekilled lunara

[split juniper]

Thank you!

[toxic jewel]

are the t1 ritual sites still the fastest way to farm the voidcores?

[gentle badge]

not even close

[twin crag]

Hey does anybody know of a good addon or anything that tracks PI/lust/ebonmight buffs? (PI is the most important)

[toxic jewel]

as in? lol just read what archi said in the updates

[sullen dove]

heard from some sources that boss is a little difficult and frightening for some

[gentle badge]

wowhead.com has your answers lol

do the 100% drop rate stuff

[thorny blade]

guys there is any talents for the specific lura fight?

[warm crag]

it probably is the fastest thing no

16% for a 2 min thing vs 1 for a 20 minute key or prey or whatever

[grand estuary]

Holy ww dmg batman

[sullen dove]

I mean… idk what prey is 20 minutes

maybe ritual sites faster than keys but everything else should beat ritual sites if you have em available

those things just aren’t as infinitely repeatable

and again in their post psure they said they would also reduce the drop chance from t1-4 rituals

from what it was before

less than 16% now probably

[spare steppe]

how are folks liking slayer m+ compared to thane? haven't gotten a chance to try it yet, been tanking all week

[plucky storm]

I find it comparable and dependent of key level.

[knotty crag]

I like the st damage for slayer but the unlucky streaks and not having bladestorm up can be annoying

[surreal wedge]

y'all think rolling a crafted weapon is still worth? I've simmed it a bit and it seems close/shifting

my main weapon is the MT one

[bitter palm]

nah its a waste cause u can just bonus roll one

[surreal wedge]

I just didn't know if the hunt embelish was enough even if the buff is random

[frank dawn]

I mean it costs the same crests either way, yes? The crafted off hand is like .1-.2% better than other myth weapons in my sims

[surreal wedge]

yeah pretty much

[frank dawn]

if it was me I would just send the crafted, no rng

/shrug

[surreal wedge]

True, then I could craft bracers I guess

[frank dawn]

yeh off hand + cloak or bracers whichever one has better ilvl/stat gains for you + embellish

[surreal wedge]

I already have a crit haste cloak on myth track because I basically rolled everything but boots and chest so far from MT

[rapid helm]

As someone who can't mythic raid, which trinkets should I really make my priority? I can get into heroic chimerus pugs ok it seems, would hero track with voidforge of Gaze paired with mythic puzzle box be the play? Or would myth puzzle/myth solarflare be better? I'm not sure if puzzle box oversims as realistically in mythic +, where I spend most of my time, you don't have much downtime to use it before a pull.

[woven valley]

Do sims for what you think you can get and try all the combos to see what works out best

I assume a hero gaze upgraded with the void shards will
Be big

But again it’s highly based on your current gear

[rapid helm]

Yeah I've been simming, I'm just worried sims might overvalue puzzle box for someone who is mostly doing M+ and doesn't often have the perfect timing to use puzzlebox without downtime :S

Sims say heroic voidforge gaze > both though. Sims have that at +5500 DPS, myth voidforge puzzle box + 4800, myth voidforge solarflare +3800. I guess Gaze is the #1 prio even at heroic

[sullen dove]

I mean pbox would likely be more valuable in m+ than it’d on sims cuz of downtime between packs

you’re somewhat more likely to have a decent amount of it’s cooldown come up between packs and can plan ahead so you can use it and all cds fresh at the start of a pack

[bitter palm]

explode

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[crude crater]

It will be three weeks of rolls without getting even one whirling voidcleaver. Crafting a second sword has been way more useful and the only reason Irvine isn’t on fire.

[dark jacinth]

Do i use double two-hand or one-hand?

[pearl sequoia]

twohand

[dark jacinth]

Thank you.
Why is it? I think a few years before we can use one hand iirc.

[dim spindle]

double one hand if you want to be a hipster about it

2h just have huge stats

weapon dps OP

[dark jacinth]

ty

[dim spindle]

we used to have a talent (single minded fury) that sorta allowed us to use 1h if that's what you're thinking of

[neat gazelle]

trying for 17 resil on slayer fury! loving it so far

[dim spindle]

was a few % less damage and used extra talents so nobody really used it. Was kind of a noob trab

[dim spindle]

wp

With only 46 total runs? I take it that's an alt

Or have you just jumped super fast

[neat gazelle]

haha ya. started with ele shaman... rerolled lock got him 17 rseil but kept dying and felt squishy, so i went back to warrior

my buddy is 16 resil so hes been feeding me keys but also ive been getting accepted alot believe it or not

[dim spindle]

I've been gearing up my lock recently. Aff is pretty savage now

in m+ anyway

Kinda like fury ST is a bit lacking but that aoe cranks

Demo still a bit better but I'm an aff at heart from way back when I go purple

Just need to keep my melee brain at bay sometimes

[neat gazelle]

ive always been a plate wearer. i got my frost dk to 3900 last season. figured id try a caster and man

fucking hated it lol

i love being tanky

[dim spindle]

Lock is tankier than most (all?) softy classes but definitely melts faster than fury

That's part of the melee brain I need to try to shut off... greed kills

Surely I can finish this cast before this puddle kills me... oops

Meanwhile as Warrior I can just charge through whatever and victory rush my health back in a pinch. Healers love me

[neat gazelle]

yeah i love it

[surreal wedge]

Ngl, I'm 2 items before clearing out the table for magisters

I have 5 rolls

Or 4 now

I'm considering rerolling the table again after clearing it/getting the boots

[compact loom]

did slayer > thane?

[sullen dove]

sometimes

[bitter palm]

what bout 5000 targets for 3hours

[sullen dove]

spam ww

youre welcome

[bitter palm]

ty

[fiery edge]

Bro coverted to slarms

[bitter palm]

on god

[undone flower]

It didn’t work the last time I tried to sim 100.000 targets

[bitter palm]

impossible

[undone flower]

It still showed the same dps as with 20 targets

[bitter palm]

where have u seen 100000 targets

5000 on the other hand...

so ww spam it is..

[undone flower]

Ur moms room

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-und-panzer-gup-truth-nuke-trvke-katyusha-gif-3214992808214369110

[spring needle]

is slayer rotation on wowhead correct?

[dense elbow]

Sure, I say, even tho I never actually read it

[random shadow]

Reading is overrated for us warrior players

[dense elbow]

Need more pretty pictures, less info

[random shadow]

Not enough pictures

[dense elbow]

That is a lot of text, I aint reading that

Write a book somewhere else

[undone flower]

good picture

[undone flower]

it broke my sim

[random shadow]

Gnome playwe

[undone flower]

@bitter palm WW dream is dead

[calm swallow]

This was my favorite key ever

[undone flower]

the sim report with 500 targets is taking 6Go of ram

[light solstice]

Biggg

Wtb coaching fury warrior zugzug

[vital lichen]

Considering how long i've been playing warrior I shoudl know this, but how does the off hand weapon affect your damage? I know the auto attacks of the offhand do 50% damage, but does it only affect our autos or does it also affect ability damage?

[crisp mantle]

It used to show up as a separate ability per cast and was something like 40% of mainhand damage

Dont know what it is now but am also curious

[silk wharf]

Afaik, no abilities reference weapon damage off-hand or otherwise.

[small loom]

I dunno how I'm so many myth crests short of this haha

[vital lichen]

So unless they specifically list "strikes with offhand" like rouges abilities sometimes it only affects auto attacks?

[undone flower]

i got the myth achievement last week, my alts helped my war a lil bit

[small loom]

I see makes sense haha

[silk wharf]

I'm pretty sure all abilities are attack power based.
Any references to "attacking" with a weapon are just flavor.

[undone flower]

i got the cost reduction for the gloves, rings, belt

from my alts

[vital lichen]

That's even more confusing. So does that mean that the stats of both weapons are applied to any ability we use, but only half damage for auto attacks?

[undone flower]

i did full vaults on them bc i was missing a belt one of them

[silk wharf]

It's not too confusing. All weapons are normalized by attack speed now so referencing the specific weapon damage is superfluous.

[bitter palm]

8000 lua errors per second out of nowhere

love to see it

thanks for removing wa's

👍

[silk wharf]

So stuff is just calculated using your attack power.

ie, no mention of weapon damage.

[vital lichen]

Oh shit. I never noticed they changed that. It does make sense now, thank you

[bitter palm]

the only stat that matters is the one in the parentheses

low number cause on leveling alt

[silk wharf]

Still weird to see warglaive and intellect lol

There is technically a small variation in weapon damage from the weapon types. But you are right, it doesn't matter.

Because the dps is the same.

[bitter palm]

i assume thats what swings variance in spell damage

like a spell can hit between idk like 10k and 10.1k

[silk wharf]

Oh no, that is the built in 5% variance to events.

[bitter palm]

oh

[silk wharf]

lol

[bitter palm]

ngl idk how the game works never really bothered

[bitter palm]

its kinda epic

no one uses daggers with int right

wait no they made them drop with int

and agi nvm

im dumb

[silk wharf]

lol

[bitter palm]

having ur own weapon type is epic tho

warglaives

no one wants it

👍

ez loot

[vital lichen]

In absolute perfect scenario you could crit on the higher variance with insane luck and get much higher dps from all the other buffs you have to them, but it tends to normalize with the lower injects, which is why there which weapon you pick doesn't matter

[bitter palm]

they should make a 3h and make it arms only

type shi

[rapid helm]

Have they confirmed there's no silent cap on Voidcore earnings? I have a heroic trinket currently and 1 spare voidcore, not sure whether to use it or save for a myth trinket

[crisp mantle]

Use, ive done 4 and am still getting them from keys

[bitter palm]

u can use

they are uncapped

u can get 10 billion

[vestal root]

thats a big number

i cant count that far

[keen kindle]

Xan

Ur a warrior

you can count past 4?

[woven valley]

https://tenor.com/view/numbers-psychostick-i-can-only-count-to-four-i-can-only-count-to4-let-the-bodies-hit-the-floor-gif-27341544

[indigo arch]

6

[timid tide]

Wait, I thought no one uses RR for Thane!

[undone flower]

no one does yes

but on a sim with 100 targets, it would be dishonest to not have a thane RR line

[flat river]

[tepid beacon]

on Archon they're showing Blood Knight's Warblade twice - that's not meaning dual wielding 2 crafted weps right? Atm I have one BK warblade and the main hand is liferipper's cutlass

[timid tide]

I gave slayer fury RR a go, but it's so chaotic. My brain will eventually get accustomed to when to to press aoe rampage and cancel aura ramp, but slayer feels so rng, compared to Thane's predictable nature

[polar narwhal]

It just means it is most used weapon in main and off-hand, which makes sense.

[tepid beacon]

ah fair, ty

[polar narwhal]

Just sim top gear/droptimizer

[late copper]

What talent are we dropping to pick up cleave for fury 🤔

[forest vortex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/C4ybBTMkRq8fhQxK?fight=last&type=damage-done can someone tell me if I am doing something wrong? zugzug iz good

[vestal root]

6 7

[dense elbow]

+2 away from nice

[red berry]

thoughts on this +16 magister i jsut did??????

ignore how i blew it up to block out names

[dark jacinth]

which dungeon have the most upgrade to spend voidcore?

[burnt oxide]

Terrace

Ring, weapon, boots, 2 tier slots

[stray bolt]

If you don't have access to the weapon from paladins or Lura, I'm assuming Whirling Voidcleaver is the best main hand?

[summer quail]

Seems good but no idea how much of your dam is actually aug

[polar narwhal]

Mysara Caverns has similar stats. BiS changes depending on rest of gear.

Just sim

Droptimizer

[pallid brook]

question

do we get these shards weekly?

like should i just upgrade stuff

[slim coral]

We on our break bud

Break ends on Tuesday though

[red berry]

it wasn't about the overall it was more the delta that was a stressful run

[pallid brook]

so hol up

we can use the core to upgrade both weapons and trinkets?

[warm crag]

not the same one but ye thats the point of that system

[pallid brook]

so 4

im a bit confused people say 3 then 4

[native wadi]

Weapons and trinks

Sometimes 3 sometimes 4 depends what you play

[warm crag]

3 if single weapon 4 if 2 weapon wowie

[pallid brook]

now im more confused

[warm crag]

whats the confusion you need 1 per trinket you have and 1 per weapon you use

[pallid brook]

huh

[compact siren]

Break it down for me

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/raygun-olympics-australia-2024-banana-gif-7644787007188637571

[burnt oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[frank harbor]

how are you in overall dps after a 17+ key guys ? hard to pass 140k+ don't know why ( ofc depend of pull etc btw but well .. feel really low compared to other class )

[compact siren]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HCn5aswawAAFU8h.gif

[pallid brook]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-turning-head-confused-cat-rizalalthur-orange-cat-behavior-gif-10491959385063137392

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

[warm crag]

a tragic gif

im glad you were there to record it so we can learn from the mistakes

[native wadi]

As fury ~170k but i go arms for higher

[compact siren]

I think I shall copy the pig to see if it happens to me

[native wadi]

Arms ~200k no aug

[bitter palm]

dont....

please..

[warm crag]

no point in lying about your dps. its been proven that fury hard caps at 150 (not k) dps due to its hard cap of 3 targets

[bitter palm]

billions must learn from gios mistake...

i mean pigs

i mean gios

...

[native wadi]

😂😂

[compact siren]

Gio57 my beloved

[native wadi]

Delete fury

Actually

[warm crag]

laughing crying emoji in the year 2026

unc

[native wadi]

Thinking of going fury for lura

Bro im 34 what you expect

[bitter palm]

@smoky vale is fantastic, just needs to work on offensive cooldowns, defensives, positioning, rage management, inverse gravity spread, healthstone flicks, dark energy spots, dragonriding, add damage, reverse gravity positions, rally ability, leap aim, shadowquake control and getting dimensius kills

[warm crag]

withering away

unironically fury on lura is so troll

p3 is the hard one and arms fucks there..

[bitter palm]

arm and obliterate boss in p3

[native wadi]

There is this fury

[warm crag]

@warrior57 is fantastic, just needs to work on offensive cooldowns, defensives, positioning, rage management, inverse gravity spread, healthstone flicks, dark energy spots, dragonriding, add damage, reverse gravity positions, rally ability, leap aim, shadowquake control and getting dimensius kills

[native wadi]

Who di 260k in p3

No clue how the fuck

[compact siren]

Me when I press execute in execute and execute does big damage

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232147064151081054/1242577626678431814/togif-6-2.gif

[bitter palm]

manual log edit

fury caps out at 130k as spoingus said earlier

[compact siren]

I use cheat engine to push my fury dps to 96k

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232147064151081054/1242577626678431814/togif-6-2.gif

[bitter palm]

i use rampaging ruin to push my aoe to 135k as its uncapped

[warm crag]

real galastronk

[bitter palm]

@warm crag thoughts

[warm crag]

fury is saved

galastronk is gio?

[compact siren]

Give fury pile on

[warm crag]

whirlwind to get strength

!

[bitter palm]

give fury collapsing star

[compact siren]

!

[warm crag]

SAD!

[compact siren]

Make fury an Agi spec

Clearly this is the problem

[vestal root]

checked it today and maisara caverns weapon seems to always edge it out

crit kinda goated, especially with the eagle ench on rings

[lusty jungle]

Rolling in maisara kinda grief tho, lots of nice items in magisters

[dusk scarab]

guys are there any tips in prekey? only stack BS stacks ?

[grave pike]

how are the speccs performing in 18+ keys? is it whatever u prefer or? slayer fury vs slayer arms

[bitter palm]

slarms better damage profile

[charred relic]

can you no longer dual wield onehanders

smf only says mog now

[burnt oxide]

You should still be able to, but you dont do it

[charred relic]

ye but i have this so i wanted to do it while getting some real weapons

was just wondering if it actually works

[bitter palm]

if its more stats

i dont see why not

[charred relic]

🫡

[bitter palm]

tg just lets u wield 2 2hs

it doesnt give u any stats or anything

[pallid brook]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-school-6-7-8-9-6-7-meme-gif-9283842523222664778

[warm crag]

thank you lol xd

[unreal onyx]

I do what I can

I wake up and I see this on my phone

I have to

[charred relic]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[unreal onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/ohne-pixel-67-gif-1548079966599215122

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/67-bunny-electricity-blue-eyes-gif-2575377350962267938

putting 67 into the gif finder is wonderful

[pearl gate]

fpr voracious, should we be fury spec or prot spec if we wana get the heart of ancient hunger trink? Or no difference at all?

[pallid brook]

U GETT THE SAME SHIT

caps

as all specs in that boss

[burnt oxide]

Easiest way to find out such cases is to use the dungeon journal on that boss and check the loot for each spec

[pearl gate]

👍

[spring needle]

So what’s the verdict on mt vs slayer for m+ and raid? Mt seems more popular but slayer is being used by top players

[timid tide]

Try for yourself and see what suits you better

[spring needle]

I’ve tried every dps hero talent and decided fury over arms but slayer and mt don’t feel that much different so I rather just play what’s better between the 2

[timid tide]

Thane is more controlled and predictable in terms of what to expect. Slayers feels more chaotic and proc based. DPS wise they perform very similar

[static edge]

im seeing on warcraft logs, that more and more people are starting to run Slayer in high keys; like 17 and up

[dense elbow]

More and more ppl are getting up to that level. Also Slayer is more fun

A lot of the effect tho, is probably that Noxiv went Slayer lately, especially in the MDI

So monkey see, monkey do. Monkey happy, monkey continue do

[quiet geyser]

Slayer does quite a bit more boss dam. Thane will prob do a bit more overall

[dense elbow]

If Slayer does more boss dam, then Thane got to be abysmal boss DPS

[quiet geyser]

No its not bad.. neither really loses any dps from a top sim ST standpoint minus 1 talent lol

Slayer just does more 🤷‍♂️

Keep in mind slayer is also just more of a popular spec. People love their bladestorm and execute. So if both specs perform somewhat equally, more people will lean towards slayer simply for favoritism.

[dense elbow]

1 dollar and 2 cents, is more than 1 dollar

[coarse nest]

[icy whale]

am i the only one havingissues with getting logs updated on my warcraftlogs page?

my logs are in queue for almost 24h now

[burnt oxide]

Same

[neat gazelle]

They don’t wanna see you winning basti

😂

[burnt oxide]

You can already see your ~parse in the log itself

[icy whale]

95

please warcraftlog gods update my m+ page so i get invited

[warm crag]

who the fuck looks at m+ logs to invite instead of just inviting the highest ilvl highest score person

[quiet geyser]

Psychopaths

[icy whale]

literally everyone in 19+ keys

[stoic loom]

Its not really quite a bit more boss damage tho is it

Sims slightly higher but in my experience in practice its relatively close

[stoic loom]

Anyone actually looking at m+ logs is probably missing iq points ngl

[marble pilot]

Checking logs for higher level m+ doesnt sound crazy to me

Pugging 19s sounds like it would be rough. Rather spend time checking logs vs just sending a key and hoping it works out

[dense elbow]

no wonder I get invited to keys then

[olive wraith]

Are people actually logging keys though

Like what

[burnt oxide]

Yes

To analyze

[dense elbow]

Yep, it is useful info to look at

[burnt oxide]

Funny number is not the only thing a log gives

[dense elbow]

Who would have thunk

[short sand]

Hey guys, would really appreciate some help with my parses

Just posted on help-and-log-review

Cant understand how top warriors are parsing 10-15% higher then me...

[dense elbow]

Kill timers, group performance and uptime min max

In general just improve your uptime and your logs will be as good as your group allows

[short sand]

Did you see anything in particular?

Or is it just general tip?

[lusty jungle]

worse groups, better logs

[bitter palm]

u have to

cause details is no more

mmm lemme check buff uptime

[solar gale]

im at 1000 haste 25% sim already says to craft crit/mastery items can that be right or am i doing something wrong

[dense elbow]

I really really miss old details, all that information ingame at a touch of a button, was so sweet

Surely blizz meter will catch up to that level soon

ish

[digital steeple]

is there a true bis list out there ? except for archimitros' list on wowhead ?

[short sand]

How do you see that?

Also, how can you time a 20 with a bad group?

[dense elbow]

Define bad

so yes

[cerulean hornet]

Anyone know or test if we can double dip voidshard increases? Like if I have a hero Gaze and push it to myth track can I go again to push up further when it's maxed leveled?

[daring laurel]

the amount of voidshards is unlimited iirc

[dense elbow]

If you asking if you can upgrade the same HC item twice, for +20 ilvl instead of +10. No, no you cant

it is only +10 per item

[digital steeple]

No

You need a myth track to get to 298, otherwise you are stucki with heroic track, voidforged 285 if im not mistaken

[cerulean hornet]

Yeah, I was just wondering if you could say upgrade a max track hero to push it to mythic, then when its max track push it higher.

But if it needs to be a natural mythic drop to get up to 298 then that's cool too.

I just don't see myself killing myth chim

[burnt oxide]

Using the item does not change its track

[cerulean hornet]

Ah, I see. I thought that was a thing. I must've misread/misheard it from somewhere.

[burnt oxide]

It just increases the ilvl and actually removes the track itself for the new tag

[cerulean hornet]

Oh, that makes more sense.

[digital steeple]

I said that 2 weeks ago, yet i got 4/9m so far and I'll skip on wep from paladins

[cerulean hornet]

So placed it on a higher track in the sense it's a flat increase but not actually changing anything because it removes the "track" altogether.

[reef knot]

hey guys if i have a mythic 1/6 2h weapon and craft a mythic 2h weapon, can i upgrade my 1/6 for free to 5/6? or does it lvl them up seperately like rings/trinkets? can i change talents to arms warrior for it to work or something as it only uses 1 2h?

[digital steeple]

i think craft does allow free 5/6, someone correct me if im wrong

I dont remember spending myth on my 298

[tranquil field]

It works just as you say. Crafted 285 saves you myth crest on the myth weapon up to 285. Will only cost you 20 for the last lvl to get to 289.

[burnt oxide]

You could use the voidforge upgrade to have it free i guess

[tranquil field]

Can’t use the item for voidforge until it’s fully upgraded 6/6 myth/hero. unless I’m trippin.

[olive wraith]

Wowhead is the true Bis

[burnt oxide]

Crafted

Can be upgraded

[olive wraith]

Keep in mind Bis lists are mostly unimportant

[tranquil field]

Gotcha, I see what you mean now

[burnt oxide]

If it is not bugged again

[reef knot]

thankyou

[gleaming crag]

Lolololol

[short sand]

Still not a great tip :(, I am average less dps. Cant figure why...

[gleaming crag]

Every other class gets a list we get white text

[dense elbow]

Stop being bad, if I can do ok logs, so can you

[strong monolith]

Same.

[short sand]

Yea, well.. If all you can do is give generic unrelated tips and then talk shit

thats not very helpful 🙂

Might as well not reply at all

[dense elbow]

Sadly that is those are the keys for good logs

[short sand]

Seems to me like yo udont really know, would appreciate any help from anyone else 🙂

[dense elbow]

godspeed

[olive wraith]

Aren’t m+ logs a bit hard to judge considering it largely depends on the pulls

[short sand]

I get that

But I feel like 18+ pulls are quite consistent

[sonic shoal]

You can get 3 different tanks do 3 different pulls just at the start of Seat

Unless you compare straightforward dungs like Skyreach, where there’s not much variance then maybe

And still there’s things like cadence, chainpulling, understanding that the group has no cds so you go into small recovery pulls

Fury warriors love to be hitting 100% of the time to be spending rage and making cds go brrrrt

[scarlet swift]

Yes?

I’m 280 and higher dps

[junior oyster]

that's a diff i could live with tho

[scarlet swift]

286 should be like 114k though

[ripe shore]

He's Thane

[scarlet swift]

My condolences

[junior oyster]

yeah then he's fine ya?

[ripe shore]

Looks like a M+ spec so yeah, seems fine

[lusty jungle]

meant for raid, worse group = more time to pad

[smoky vale]

nice job

[bitter palm]

hi

[smoky vale]

gm

[bitter palm]

i will collapsing star you

[hallow helm]

you're slayer...

[bitter palm]

@smoky vale

u will see this creature on raiderio front page..

[smoky vale]

cluegi

gl grinding 4100 io

[bitter palm]

2 weeks

[smoky crescent]

how fast does vorasius heart crit decay ?

[languid willow]

Yo on skyreach on the last boss has anyone tried charging out of the add fixate? I’ve tried leaping and it never works but was just sitting here thinking if the tank had it close enough if we could just spam charge and charge to it ?

[scarlet swift]

I just keep it stunned, but i only go 10-12s, so it’s easy

[rapid quarry]

Does anyone have a bladestorm/avatar macro :3

[dense elbow]

Cute

[unborn musk]

What the? As Thane? Single target 5 minutes? Mine is 97k at 285. No gaze for me tho

[brittle crow]

"i don't have the trinket that increases ur dps by 7% why is my dps 7% lower"

that's ur problem

go get gaze big dawg

[unborn musk]

So that's why. Makes sense

[sullen dove]

other classes yapping too much about irrelevant shit

literally upgrade your weapons and upgrade the good trinkets you are using and done system over

[woven atlas]

thats what i love about slayer, in keys like skr+19, where they pull whole room and group dies in 10-15seconds. Heard that 3 times already, never at the end of a key.

[sudden tusk]

Me simple me unga

Slayer is just worse at high key levels

[hot shell]

just the first pull and massive pulls that arent too great

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326809946997919805.webp?size=96&animated=true

[sudden tusk]

It's proc rate it just too low unfortunately

[woven atlas]

first big pull with no bladestorm stacks is just sth else

[sudden tusk]

Just too rng for my taste

[marble pilot]

First pull is great. rampage rampage Tclap rampage tclap rampage. Eventually the pull is over or avatar ends and you gotta hit something else

[sudden tusk]

It's doable but I don't like high rng

[hot shell]

whats worse is that even if you prestack bs stacks, in academy it will fall off by the time u get to fight lol

[compact knot]

to be fair he kinda did something nice for you

the prepull is nice

but yeah first pull on slayer with no prepull is unfair

[marble pilot]

Im not doing 19s though. Im at the 14ish range. Never had the desire to push keys. Maybe Ill do 3400 or whatever since thats another mount.

[nova vessel]

When playing slayer we use bladestorm only with Reck right? or there are situations where we use bladestorm at cd

[honest trail]

I do 19 as slayer with no prepull

Just vibing

[honest trail]

A good usage is to Reck+3-ish ramp before BS

Since stacks last 8s

You'll BS with 6-7 stacks of Berserker

Which is a good burst window

They are very rarely unsynced, by your own decision

[gentle badge]

I feel like noxiv might disagree

[sudden tusk]

Noxiv plays what he wants to. Doesn't mean it's any better or worse

When fury was bad he still played it

[gentle badge]

Sure but he thinks slayer is overall better

“Similarish overall and way more single target” in his chat command for !herospec

Something like that

[fathom wolf]

What are opinions Mr. Trebek?

[sudden tusk]

It's his preference and it works for him

Thane is a bit ahead on AoE. A little worse in single target but also has defensive value where slayer does not

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-woman-yelling-at-cat-a-women-WTL02R1L7YCGUEunFy

[hot shell]

Healing has nothing to do with Defensive value

[dense elbow]

cope and seethe hater

https://giphy.com/gifs/kitty-dancing-cat-FM57qpxeflq5Woi0Bj

[sudden tusk]

Death drive should build an over shield instead of healing like condemn

Then it would be decent

[radiant plank]

death drive should do something in the first place

rmbr when they nerfed it by 50%

[compact knot]

GAME TIME

META COMP

[sudden tusk]

Shmio25

[radiant plank]

stream it sahu

[compact knot]

ye 1 sec

booting it up

[sudden tusk]

I've been playing so much hsr I haven't done keys in weeks

Only like 3300 lmao

[compact knot]

BOOTED UP

[young swan]

more than that

it was 50% heal

down to 15%

[sudden tusk]

It was almost all overheal and still got nerfed

I blame pvp

[dense elbow]

Fury better than arms confirmed

[junior oyster]

no bullying undergeared arms in 10s, its meanie business

[craggy gulch]

Are you guys prio whirlwind during cooldowns over bloodthirsty at 7+ targets?

[scarlet swift]

Well you need ww aoe proc

[craggy gulch]

With proc

[honest trail]

No, cause prio dmg>cleave

In most situations

[dense elbow]

Aint gear, 100% spec diff

[stoic loom]

hi guys hows thane after the nerfs??

[honest trail]

What nerfs

[dense elbow]

I checked announcments in confusion

[compact knot]

u are like insanely late

thane is still good

those "nerfs" happened deadass almost a month ago

and they didnt even go through

[clever iron]

😂

where this guys come frome

these

[distant knot]

We come from not playing since s2 of tww

[tepid beacon]

I noticed a lot of people using PvP neck, is 197 the highest the ilvl on it goes? guessing it can't be upgraded at all?

[warm crag]

Larp

[warm crag]

Its on hc track i think maybe

[tepid beacon]

ah ok ty

[compact knot]

does anything look strange?

i wonder if this is abuseable

LMAO

[tepid beacon]

not meaning to rip on other players or the class specifically, but have you guys noticed a lot of evoker players do terrible dps? I've played with a few recently on M+ and they are always below the tank on meter 😄

[compact knot]

real

[modest condor]

dude same

[smoky vale]

what is this

@waxen vigil @compact knot prob not coming back for a while i gotta get ready to do family stuff gg

[waxen vigil]

ok

[warm crag]

What is it from wtf

[compact knot]

hehe

[warm crag]

Is this a shitpost or are u srs

[faint quiver]

by any chance, are they aug 😛

[smoky vale]

what are you trying to do with that though

[compact knot]

testing for fun

[smoky vale]

prestack 100% haste every key

lol

[compact knot]

wait can u

nah it wont work

[smoky vale]

no man

[compact knot]

the buff only lasts 10 seconds

i wont have a target dummy toy i dont think

[smoky vale]

start questing in mop man

lock in

[compact knot]

wait no i do

[smoky vale]

👀

you are not allowed to get more io @compact knot

[compact knot]

why

well im not going to get anymore

because no shamans are in que

[static loom]

I'm going to be honest with you, first thing I noticed in that picture wasn't the haste, it was the 3stam glove enchant!

[slim coral]

All I see is a black screen

[compact knot]

oh yeah thats little known technology

the tbc armor kit works on gloves and gives +3 stamina

[slim coral]

I need one more 20

[static loom]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

[languid willow]

Which one baze?

[slim coral]

I need nexus

[languid willow]

I have an Aug buddie if you wanna do double warrior for AA

Ahh rip

[slim coral]

Aug?!

Oh hell nah

There is no good augs in Na

Chinese augs are nuts though

[languid willow]

Kess told me I was stuck in DF when he was in my key for swapping from fury to arms for Aug

Now I have no bias ig I just play fury no matter what now

I think Kess is great

But probably the only Aug I ran with where I felt like it was beneficial

[slim coral]

Phys comp fucks

[languid willow]

After yesterday I want to start going left in AA with phys

With how nox and them did it

[spare steppe]

Why does left matter for a physical comp?

[languid willow]

They just rogue skipped to the mega pull on vex platform, then grabbed the adds they skipped on the bridge and pulled them into vex

While he did his RP

[modest condor]

i mean the route didnt look faster, they only won because they had more dps on last boss

[languid willow]

Yea prob not but just something diff ig

[spare steppe]

MDI is a wonderful reminder of just how big the skill gap is

[fresh creek]

mdi today?

[modest condor]

i could do these pulls

[languid willow]

I’m just happy phys shows up these meta comps which always feels good

[spare steppe]

I like the pacing of physical comps

Melee is just more fun

[fresh creek]

100

[languid willow]

Playing thane feels good because there is never a second you’re ever waiting to use cds just blasting them on cd

[agile apex]

How important is offhand ilvl compared to main hand and other major stat items ilvl?

[static loom]

Checking how much the Voidcore upgrade is worth, mainhand is roughly twice as strong as the offhand

[dense elbow]

Weapon DPS stat is the most important one. Offhand is reduced, but still huge at reduced value

Secondary and primary stats stay

As weap dps is so big, weap compared to other pieces aint really close (barring broken trinkets)

[gritty frigate]

#bringbackdragonroar

[agile apex]

ty

[olive wraith]

6 bleeds!!

[nimble kraken]

vaelgor heroic

but I don't think anybody logged ;_;

heroic*

[gritty locust]

Sometimes I have trouble to keep up melee range in chaotic big pulls (read nexus/aa big 18 m+pulls) and feels I lose alot of dmg because im oressing stuf and not bein in range. I have target range X indicator on but it is still hard dealing with all the puddles and stuff, mabye its practise but mabye some have some tips that could speed up the progress

Also my auto targetting is sometimes weird not targeting the closest mob, any tips on that? Spamming tab or mabye some settings ?

[rancid ledge]

how many targets we ww over rb ?

[rigid terrace]

How do I play Fury without feeling like I'm developing carpal tunnel?

[icy whale]

kek

[astral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

[icy whale]

its not that bad

[young swan]

better keybind placement + posture

keyboard and mouse placement could also help

[gritty frigate]

my keyboard is at a 90 degree angle

[icy whale]

my hand is almost fully flat on my keyboard

[undone flower]

It really depends on what is happening, you might need to switch target the closest mob just to keep attacking, if it’s 1 gcd loss you can just thunderclap/ww in the movement, and maybe you didn’t know, puddles doesn’t instantly tick

A lot of the puddles this season you can just walk over them, it will not tick dmg

But that comes with try/fail so it’s not the best solution right away for you sorry

[olive wraith]

3+

[amber pebble]

slayer or thane in high keys? what do u guys prefere?

[rancid ledge]

[frozen scarab]

what dungs are good for rerolling?

[scarlet swift]

how do i make this right side update in real time?

[frozen scarab]

does the mod have an update pending on curseforge?

[compact knot]

update the addon

but i dont think the timed +10-11 runs thing updates in real time

or atleast it does not for me

[pure rampart]

during recklesness as slayer do i use more rampage instead of bloodthirst?

[olive wraith]

You’ll end up hitting ramp more because of increased rage gen

But bt is still decently high prio

[frozen scarab]

only use bladestorm when in recklessness right?

[smoky nacelle]

Always send it

[frozen scarab]

i see

use it off cd no matter what?

[smoky nacelle]

Absolutely

Im pretty high right now but if you wait , you will waste it. Eventually you will have it up more frequently if you just full send instead of waiting for it to line up with Reck

Something decreases the CD on BS i forgot.. so keeping it in a prolonged fight just to align with Reck is no bueno

[compact knot]

you hold if reck is under 30 seconds of cd

[ember leaf]

Sudden death

[scarlet swift]

Why is my 266 Hunter getting into 10s at zero io (2600 warband).

Lust, fking crazy the difference my 280 war vs 266 hunt….

[pallid brook]

just get warr 3k minimum and llike have a number after the 0

like 281 or smthin ull be aite

[smoky nacelle]

Yeah!

Spicoli mode

[frozen scarab]

do not que at 2 am bro what am i witnessing man

[wary salmon]

[hushed ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/witness-rage-mad-max-gif-4527107021531365595

[random shadow]

i mean its kinda dependent on what youre queing into, like 2 dps spots filled, with no lust, theyll pick a luster over a warrior, even 2 dps spot open it deepends

shouldnt really have a problem getting into keys, but then again at 10s most folks just pick the highest io

[visual jungle]

Folks does Fury feel good late game? New to WoW, levelled Unholy to 80 and couldn’t really enjoy it for some reason so made Fury, round lvl 37 now and it’s much more enjoyable, but does it still feel good/slap sufficiently late game?

[dry notch]

Yeah it feels nice but sometimes my hands hurts, its like playing on piano

[timid tide]

as someone who has been playing warrior/fury since SL, are there other specs that have such high APM as Fury?

[dry notch]

I don t know about dps but prot war is also high apm

But i play every spec like s fury i am sick kinda

[bitter palm]

outlaw

arms isnt far either

[languid willow]

As someone who has played fury forever outlaw and enhance Stormbringer have been my favorite other two specs to play

[civic finch]

hello guys, im so bad with warrior and idk why can somebody help to me, te be better i like warrior so mutch!

[fiery edge]

It’s the curse for being brown

[visual jungle]

Think I read enhance shaman is pretty button mashy

[remote bobcat]

im so bad with warrior ❌
warrior is so bad ✅

On a more serious note, if u wanna improve, post into #1347646810457636974

[scenic grove]

Do you have logs to start with?

[somber elk]

guys can we somehow insert a sound when we get a sd proc?

[dense elbow]

Do a /cdm, go to buffs and find SD, click the add event, chose sound, chose between horn to TTS

Lady says Sudden Death to me all the time

[quasi fractal]

i do the cat meow

[bitter palm]

hi kronzus

[cobalt yarrow]

Moring, i have a Question. 🙂 Do i press Exe only whit SD or in Exe Phase always when ready?

[dense elbow]

I would love mews, but the blizz one is kinda weak and I cant hear it over my friends yapping non stop

[dense elbow]

As Slayer, always send exe - only exception is if you are at 130 rage or aint enraged (also ww stacks on AoE)

Snipe execute from lower mobs, big dam

[cobalt yarrow]

Okay thanks, and whit thane, i only use it whit SD procc? also in the Exe phase?

[forest vortex]

but no one reads logs there...I left one for over a week and still no response

however, a girl posted there and got a reply in the same day

[dense elbow]

Cant blame that, I done over 50 reviews, every time it is basically a "fix your basic rotation, gear and uptime", that get responded with pushback and sometimes angry DMs

Just aint worthwhile, from a fun perspective

[dense elbow]

For Thane you follow the prio list, as seen in #dps-faq

[burnt oxide]

M+ logs are also harder to analyze than bosskills

[smoky vale]

^^^

most of m+

is uptime

getting as many casts of everything as you can

having good routes and comp

[forest vortex]

as fury we want smaller pulls, right?

[dense elbow]

Nop

We still do mass AoE, we just dont shine on it

We still gain DPS

What we want is consistent all the time mass pulls

[burnt oxide]

And if we talk for the sake of timing a key, it is not about what we want

[forest vortex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/R2aLPDCMjmwXbrGc?fight=last&type=damage-done I always feel like I suck in the first pull of most of the dungeons, especially AA. haven't past yet the 500k mark in an opener

dosen't matter the dungeon

[dense elbow]

Dont care about the opener, care about your overall performance.

We are a stable dps machine, where any downtime really stings.

If your group aint playing around that, you wont shine

[civic finch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/G1F2yzKc8JtkRLp6?fight=6&type=damage-done&source=8

shame 🙁

[dense elbow]

Btw, for m+, not for personal event checking. It would be easier if you bring a VOD to boot

As looking up your positioning, how the tank acts and you react, is kinda difficult.

I will give some generic advice for the first pull to MinMax dps:
Stand on the tank, follow the tank, the adds will be best gathered around that point, for the best cleave potential. If you dont, you get split to a side, your dps will plummet.

Remember to hold the burst for the all gather, soft open the few first sec

Remember Fury just aint great at that pull. Slayer crushes boss tho, so just keep that in mind

[forest vortex]

is slayer better overall?

[dense elbow]

I would argue it brings more value through being better at what we should focus on. ST and soften the packs.

Nothing wrong going Thane for more overall DPS potential on mass AoE tho

Aint a "is better", just a value proposition

[dense elbow]

I refer to my point of "when I check I see", i dont want to hang you out personally so tell and I will delete this.

Yet, again, I go in and very easily spot a rotten rotation. You should read up the #dps-faq and work on the basic opener and rotation. Your number 1 prio.

It is something that is so obvious, for those that are in the know, again no offense. That it is boring to spot and solve, it isnt a mystery. It is just a "... There it is", my generic response would have done it.

Again, my point, checking these things are kinda boring and there is no return.

Not saying you would be ungrateful, yet that is often the end case. That on top kills ppl checking logs

[civic finch]

thank you 🙂

[dense elbow]

if only we got more of those, more ppl would check logs

[bitter palm]

dps warrior just sucks in aa first pull on pad dmg

fury is hard capped and arms is softcapped way too aggressively

[sudden tusk]

idk did an 18 was was even in overall with a ret paladin and BM hunter as thane

just game

[bitter palm]

yeah u just lose on first pull

over the course of the dungeon u close the gap

[sudden tusk]

will try some slayer fury see how it feels

[dense elbow]

Note that is what everyone is saying, ignore the big pull data, look at overall performance and your impact on completing the key as a whole

Noone says "do low dps on giga AoE is a problem"

[sudden tusk]

can prob see why slayer arms is the popular pick tho

[dense elbow]

Ye, arms is strong

We Fury in here tho

Traitor

[bitter palm]

arms just destroys the big lasher

[sudden tusk]

i dont care about the 0.1 title with resil keys existing

[bitter palm]

which is the only relevant dmg

[sudden tusk]

ill ge the 1% mount call it good

[bitter palm]

fuckass system man

[sudden tusk]

with how easy keys are resil keys ruin M+

[bitter palm]

the people doing 19s 20s Right now

[sudden tusk]

i mean even without them being easy

[dense elbow]

Meh, i like resi, allows me to casually so content at a level where it feels fun and just a tad challenging to keep weekly interesting

16-17 was the sweet spot a few weeks ago. Now that is getting too easy, time to get resi 18-19 probs

I like it

[sudden tusk]

resil as a whole is nicer for the general audiance

but it completely ruins pugging title

not to mention sales at the end of the season like lmao

[bitter palm]

i tried pugging a 19 for fun and se lacked dmg

we*

i did that key at 15 ilvls lower

[hot shell]

Wdym end of sesson? Even rn in a 19 half of them "note tip"

[bitter palm]

a month ago

or more

i was 273 ish

[dense elbow]

Note tip is back? Just report em

ToS is ToS

[bitter palm]

when i was 2 chesting 17s and 18s

and now people struggling

with timing 18s and 19s at 285+

[sudden tusk]

im just doing 1 IO key a day to catch up

last key i did was +82 LMAO

idk people have omega gear so they dont die, but def can just lack damage

[bitter palm]

my problem with resils is that key level just loses meaning

true that you could always just kinda bruteforce keys

but u got people playing 20 keys a day and they are resil 20

[sudden tusk]

i mean even without restil tbh

keys get boring real fast

[bitter palm]

i genuinely don't understand how

[stray bolt]

Hey all, I was looking at one of Noxiv's logs, and his Whirlwind is a huge portion of his damage compared to mine.
What's the prio on WW? Is it used as filler, or maybe even more often that I think?

[sudden tusk]

theres no actual differance between a 18 and a 22

you just do the same shit every time

[bitter palm]

we had too much dmg with arms spriest brew mw and a pug doing fuckall

at 275 ilvl

[sudden tusk]

you just end up hitting a key level where if you dont press X for Y you die

and thats it

[bitter palm]

and that pug was never shaman

[sudden tusk]

thats also why im playing fury