hiya i'm new to mountain thane so i hv a quick question, do i just replace whirlwind on my hot bar with thunderclap?
#fury
golden nacelle
neat gazelle
yes
dim spindle
hiya i'm new to mountain thane so i hv a quick question, do i just replace whir...
Yes. Technically there can be moments where there's literally nothing else to press, especially if you dont take wrecking for some reason, but that goes away with enough gear/haste
And even without it's so rare not to be worth worrying about imo
signal falcon
Sometimes if a mechanic pushes you out of range it can be nice to whirlwind
golden nacelle
sick thank you guys!! really helps
dim spindle
but better than nothing
I just battle shout at them
signal falcon
dim spindle
I keep considering dropping the +range for TC/TB talent for something else but it's nice to have that option in those moments
And to make up for messy pulls
lean haven
So I've tried SlayersM+ build, that Noxiv used (I guess, that's the Standart one for any Slayer). Pretty decent dmg. But I guess, in gigabig pulls, no chances to outdmg DH'h, Unholy and Palas. Am I right?
dim spindle
Depends on their chad level vs yours I suppose
But on paper, same skill level/gear, yeah they'll probably win
burnt oxide
Our high is lower, but more frequent
pearl sequoia
warriorrs not usually out dpsing specs, we get ahead by consistent cds
dim spindle
Oh, gigabig pulls... yeah they win
We're better than we were now but still very lacking compared to some others in stuff like AA first pull
pearl sequoia
if we were top contender in AA first pull while maintianing the consistency we'd easily be #1 dps
dim spindle
For sure. I recommend setting your meter to overall and don't even look at it for the first 5-10 minutes
Gotta keep that mental healthy
I try not to complain about our huge aoe "burst" capability too much, but I'll still bitch about our ST a bit. Could use some love
winter shoal
@kind python I have won the battle you didn't know we were in
dim spindle
Finally ran heroic voidspire/chim last night for the first time of the season and I see what people are talking about. Not great
(as thane)
Granted it was kind of spur of the moment and I did minimal research into timings, mechanics, etc, but I still managed a 95 parse (thanks weapon ilvl boosts) and was behind blue parses
sinful pelican
So we can upgrade a hero trinket for free right since there is NO cap on shards?
Not bad
dim spindle
Free besides time, yup
opaque mortar
Granted it was kind of spur of the moment and I did minimal research into timing...
That's the part that sucks. I'm turbo bad but can manage blue or even a purple parse on occasion. Then being below mage and survival green parses hurts my ego
dim spindle
survival is nasty right now
Our surv was blasting. He's a good player in general but damn
severe wasp
got me considering staying as fury
winter shoal
Granted it was kind of spur of the moment and I did minimal research into timing...
Yeah adds just kind of evaporate so it's hard to get a truly good log at this point
dim spindle
Yeah adds just kind of evaporate so it's hard to get a truly good log at this po...
I bet you can guess the fight I got 95 on
winter shoal
Was it paladins
dim spindle
yessir
burnt oxide
got me considering staying as fury
Show the difficulty 
winter shoal
reject overall log, embrace boss dam log
dim spindle
All blues on everything else, maybe 1 purple. But first time in there so I don't feel too bad
burnt oxide
dim spindle
75.2 median? wow
winter shoal
I got r1 averzian boss dam last night by like 15% and it's a 95 overall
charred flint
hopefully tomorrow we kill paladins, got really close next week
dim spindle
jk wp bros
winter shoal
my vaelgor parse is rank 100 now sadge
boss doesn't count anyways
dim spindle
Are they going to split ranks from ilvl boost era vs the before times?
fickle vector
hopefully tomorrow we kill paladins, got really close next week
Are you running slayer or thane on these mythic bosses or a mix
winter shoal
I'd recommend thane on paladins (or colossus arms) but you can play either on everything else
winter shoal
Are they going to split ranks from ilvl boost era vs the before times?
Probably not, they didn't with turbo boost in MFO did they?
dim spindle
Not sure, wasn't really paying attention (just came back at the end of S3)
And I'm a filthy casual m+ enjoyer these days. Last night was the first time I stepped foot into a raid for "real" since uh... end of DF I guess
mid DF
jagged socket
am now simming enchants for gear - do we know if eyes of the eagle for rings is simming correctly
bit nervous to trust the output
and by extension is it effective for m+?
dim spindle
It's probably correct. Secondary enchants aren't that strong overall
pearl oracle
slayer fury now better?
winter shoal
am now simming enchants for gear - do we know if eyes of the eagle for rings is ...
Yes they were already good and then got buffed
dim spindle
dungeon slice isn't recommended, but crit related buffs/stats are almost always better in aoe situations
winter shoal
slayer fury now better?
Sometimes, play what you want though
jagged socket
dungeon slice isn't recommended, but crit related buffs/stats are almost always ...
very helpful cheers
sinful pelican
nice plays bros
pearl oracle
Sometimes, play what you want though
thank you
dim spindle
Try patchwerk 3/5/etc target sims
dry talon
is it worth it to upgrade crafted weapon with new system or farm bis from m+10
dim spindle
End of the day no sim is 100% accurate to whatever m+ you may be running. Way too many variables
winter shoal
is it worth it to upgrade crafted weapon with new system or farm bis from m+10
Probably both, the upgrades aren't capped
dim spindle
But it's good enough to get a decent idea
jagged socket
of course - i appreciate the insight, helps to know im twiddling the right knobs
dim spindle
of course - i appreciate the insight, helps to know im twiddling the right knobs
np, trust in the AI. It will be our overlord soon enough so might as well
jagged socket
i do as the crystal demands
neat gazelle
for fury slayer m+. do we ever whirlwind in st fights?:
jagged socket
for fury slayer m+. do we ever whirlwind in st fights?:
filler
dim spindle
If you've got nothing else, yes
sinful pelican
Would yall run a 276 crit trink over a 289 box?
neat gazelle
tytytyty
jagged socket
Would yall run a 276 crit trink over a 289 box?
i despise box so purely for usability id consider it
would probably see across a couple of m+ with a static group
sinful pelican
its fun on opener 🙁
charred flint
Are you running slayer or thane on these mythic bosses or a mix
thane
i hate slayer
jagged socket
keep it for m+
charred flint
new slayer, that is
jagged socket
can use it prepulls
dim spindle
I have yet to get a mythic box as a choice and I'm not too sad about it
But I would kinda like to mess around with it
sinful pelican
I replaced my 276 Crit with a 276 gaze and kept box, it sims better but i see everyone using crit + gaze
dry talon
Probably both, the upgrades aren't capped
wasnt it one item ?
jagged socket
if you're willing to take my word for it - you're not missing out on much
i spend more time angy at it for making me wait
dim spindle
Draught 2.0 when
winter shoal
wasnt it one item ?
One item per core, you can get as many cores as you want
dim spindle
I think Draught gave blizz PTSD. It's pretty much the reason enrage and other buffs/stats (besides vers) don't boost trinkets anymore
burnt oxide
Draught 2.0 when
Never happens due to how trinkets nowadays interact with our stats
dim spindle
Never happens due to how trinkets nowadays interact with our stats
Fine. Arcanocrystal 2.0 when?
With 2% chance for socket. We gaming
dry talon
One item per core, you can get as many cores as you want
nice
smoky nacelle
has hotfix went live yet?
burnt oxide
Fine. Arcanocrystal 2.0 when?
Isnt the worldboss trinket kinda like that, but less potent
neat gazelle
i hated slayer compared to thane in m+ but ran slayer alot last night in 16s/17's and i must say it felt good. boss dps def was nice
fresh cave
thinking on running slayer on alleria mythic , anyone has tried ? does it play better than thane ?
charred flint
RB not being a button just bugs the shit out of me
also the desync in bladestorm is kinda annyoing
foggy plank
has hotfix went live yet?
Not sure did a T11 bountiful delve and got a voidshard but then did a nightmare prey and got nothing from the champion gear box
icy whale
which dungeon plays which talent? on 19+
i just go by what my group needs, but what is best on fury alone?
winter shoal
thinking on running slayer on alleria mythic , anyone has tried ? does it play b...
Both are fine, thane is a little tankier which might be useful bc surviving in p3 can be a problem
damage should be similar enough though, and damage also shouldn't really be a problem at this point
silver trench
Is it better to have 2 fully mythic weapon like 289, or is it best to have crafted 285 and 289 with the embellishment you can get?
winter shoal
Sim it but usually myth mainhand + crafted embellished offhand is better
silver trench
Mmmh
sinful pelican
So hotfix isnt out, heroic isnt 100% rn?
fresh cave
Both are fine, thane is a little tankier which might be useful bc surviving in p...
thanks for the tips 🙂 i'll stick thane then since we're progging on the boss
scenic grove
thinking on running slayer on alleria mythic , anyone has tried ? does it play b...
I liked it. I went full st build slayer and felt somewhat useful for alleria dmg
oblique thistle
So hotfix isnt out, heroic isnt 100% rn?
Not until later today
trail locust
Not until later today
do you know when?
exotic swallow
what are we using our voidshards on? myth weapon if we have one?
sharp timber
Je ne sais aps quoi prendre, un conseil???:)
spare steppe
what are we using our voidshards on? myth weapon if we have one?
Myth weapon, myth gaze, other myth trinkets, myth crafted etc
But sim it!
edgy widget
weapon is always first, then trinkets
spare steppe
just use them all at once
We at 100% drop rate yet?
smoky vale
no sabo
spare steppe
Cause I did 10 yesterday from t1 rituals and my soul hurts
edgy widget
Je ne sais aps quoi prendre, un conseil???:)
M Chimaerus is pretty puggable, but otherwise that's probably best - you could also just take an extra bonus roll for dungeons
winter shoal
Je ne sais aps quoi prendre, un conseil???:)
@undone flower fr*nch person needs assistance
charred flint
Je ne sais aps quoi prendre, un conseil???:)
dense elbow
Je ne sais aps quoi prendre, un conseil???:)
Si tu n’as pas besoin des gants, je prendrais simplement le jeton bonus. Le trinket, tu peux l’obtenir facilement en tuant le boss du raid
charred flint
sim toi-mêmem
winter shoal
Si tu n’as pas besoin des gants, je prendrais simplement le jeton bonus. Le trin...
funky since when are you fr*nch
or is this the work of the mighty google translate
rare garnet
ChatGPT
dense elbow
I am Norwegian, but I raided with french ppl. So got used to just translating stuff and what became wonky from it, was just part of the fun
dense elbow
winter shoal
W
dense elbow
dense elbow
sharp timber
Désolé j’étais en m+. Les gants il me semble que c’est la seul pièce que j’ai pas besoin. Et le bijoux 272 le regard du prophète est mon bis non???
Et je ne l’ai pas 🙂
uncut pine
🥐
sharp timber
I still haven’t had it at the beginning of the raid...
dense elbow
Désolé j’étais en m+. Les gants il me semble que c’est la seul pièce que j’ai pa...
Oui, c’est ton BiS.
Mais comme je l’ai dit, tu peux l’obtenir en raid mythique. Avec le nouveau système d’amélioration, ça vaut clairement le temps investi. La version héroïque ne vaudra pas le coup, car tu la remplaceras assez vite
unreal onyx
<:sadge:820202363359854633>
287.19
ember apex
jeez
unreal onyx
sure
dense elbow
sullen dove
276 heart in week 17 of season 
dense elbow
I believe in you and your team
sullen dove
can yoink that up to 285 tho EZ
dense elbow
276 heart in week 17 of season <:monkahmm:1382590600439664751>
why u so cruel
unreal onyx
276 heart in week 17 of season <:monkahmm:1382590600439664751>
didnt get in rolls and we were in alleria prison
sullen dove
real
unreal onyx
can yoink that up to 285 tho EZ
"EZ"
I ain't spending 2h in ritual sites for a heroic item
sullen dove
Well ez when devs decide to do anything beneficial or helpful for once
snow flower
276 heart in week 17 of season <:monkahmm:1382590600439664751>
I still have a 276 heart and no gaze 🙂 🙂 🙂 I'm feeling fine
sullen dove
worthy geyser
I still have a 276 heart and no gaze 🙂 🙂 🙂 I'm feeling fine
same
myth puzzlebox at least
dense elbow
I still have a 276 heart and no gaze 🙂 🙂 🙂 I'm feeling fine
🫂
unreal onyx
if I didnt give that russian dude in a pug gold for it I would still have nm heart
sullen dove
Pbox supposedly pretty close to gaze on fury
snow flower
I'll have Myth Gaze next week, thanks voidcores
unreal onyx
I will roll PoS today and get helm (only thing left for me to drop) and spend 2 rolls on vorasius
dense elbow
Spent 2 rolls?
dense elbow
Ah, thought you meant you gonna roll twice
ember apex
thats why i hate using agramar rubix cube or whatever the F u heroic leap into a pack and before u slam all ur cooldowns ur like op everyone wait let me do my little puzzle
unreal onyx
so I have 3 cores
unreal onyx
Ah, thought you meant you gonna roll twice
hell nah
dapper goblet
276 heart in week 17 of season <:monkahmm:1382590600439664751>
You know I had a normal guidon until 2 weeks ago
👉 🕞
unreal onyx
normal GUIDON??
sullen dove
You know I had a normal guidon until 2 weeks ago
maybe vil should be less pig
signal falcon
I actually think it’s easier to get gaze than the voidspire trinkets lol
sullen dove
he’s a red swine
signal falcon
They just never drop
unreal onyx
death to red
sullen dove
yea I mean.. boss loot be boss loot
winter shoal
You know I had a normal guidon until 2 weeks ago
I got hc guidon frame 1 of my udk's lifespan, statement?
sullen dove
but like 75% less people want vorasius heart than gaze so that one should be much easier to get “if it drops”
dapper goblet
if you play unholy still you are a freak
sullen dove
even less want guidon
winter shoal
if you play unholy still you are a freak
is frost the sauce now or what
misty edge
if you play unholy still you are a freak
freak
sullen dove
Is this flame or what
dapper goblet
my frost is 5k higher than unholy
sullen dove
Creature links me a 130k vantusless frost sim
sullen dove
without voidcore upgrades
winter shoal
We need to put the red class in a blender methinks
dapper goblet
Creature links me a 130k vantusless frost sim
marble pilot
Sometimes I see other class sims and it makes me consider being a fotm player
dry grove
I keep trying to sim my warrior, an for some reason it's having me take away Mastery. Is that right? The gear i currently wear is.. 523 - Crit, 999 - Haste, 1040 - Mastery unbuffed. It's trying to swap me too 704 - Crit, 1078 - Haste and 778 - Mastery. Am i wrong to think that doesn't sound right to swap?
winter shoal
winter shoal
I keep trying to sim my warrior, an for some reason it's having me take away Mas...
Can you link the sim
sullen dove
if you have a puzzlebox that might be right
otherwise would think prolly not
Oh or it wants nexus 2set
I mean it is decent dps
smoky vale
where is your 113 sim
sullen dove
idk at home
smoky vale
is that with vantus or
smoky vale
send when you ghet hoem
misty edge
yeah whip it out swordish
winter shoal
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mCDpDW4kL7MGTVviur5wso
Consider re-checking your enchants, usually eyes of the eagle on rings is best, and acuity on weapon is probably not best anymore with the gear levels we have
Also consider recrafting boots to haste/mast
radiant plank
recraft dn
sullen dove
miss dn when it was 40% of your dmg in m+
radiant plank
smoky vale
could with major passion
sullen dove
Although not leveling traces for lvl 70’s for 10 whole eq levels sounds dumb as hell anyway
so doubt that worth
unless u just don’t do endgame content ig till then
But 10-12 days for forgotten hall reset
dapper goblet
i miss tom
sullen dove
zinc willow
Question using the mountain thane build on Chimareus mythic for the adds - in single target phase though what becomes the prio during the execute phase? I can't find something on the execute rotaiton of mountain thane on icey veins
covert coyote
our rotation doesn't really change during execute. maybe get slightly more executes out > TC since you don't need an SD proc to use it
unreal onyx
@dense elbow trinket actually dropped and I got it
dim spindle
BT is basically our execute
covert coyote
thought bt was always > exe
dim spindle
without nerfing anything else. Obviously
Ok slayer can have even better execute, too
dense elbow
dim spindle
As long as it doesn't surpass Thane 🙂
dense elbow
dim spindle
I mean they can be equal
olive wraith
Make Execute Great Again (for thane) imo
Nah exe is fine for thane imo
dense elbow
You clap
dim spindle
Yeah but
but
Can't we have juicy lobster AND buttery steak?
Thane and Slayer can both have broken buffs, as long as it comes from Arms. Balance
thorny epoch
You sound like the type of guy who would be like. I know it says 2 hander but are you sure I cant have one in each hand?
dim spindle
I kid, I kid. The damage must be taken from UH and DH. Demo is cool I guess
thorny epoch
Then again I dont main warrior i just play one on television so I joined this discord to help improve my roleplay
dim spindle
While we're at it, take time warp from mage and toss it over here to us. They don't need it
thorny epoch
My warrior hit 90 last week lol
dim spindle
Congratz. Make sure to buy yourself a nice comfy carpal tunnel arm sleeve
thorny epoch
I mained spriest in s1 of legion.... so thankfully I already have one.
dim spindle
dim spindle
I mained spriest in s1 of legion.... so thankfully I already have one.
Excellent, you're ahead of the game
My alt is afflock, so on second thought take some damage from demo and toss it over to aff and all will be right with the world
Oh wait, what to do about survival... hmm
thorny epoch
My damage as a warrior feels low though trying to figure out how much is me vs how much is the class. Was getting carried through some 16s to get gear and im barely doing 170k overall when my friends are like 210k on most dungeons
dim spindle
Trade OF for Boomstick?
spare steppe
I loved taking rend off my bars but now I need to relearn buttons
thorny epoch
Lol my parses arent orange and while im sure some of it is gear im equally sure most of it is me so ive been reading around
dim spindle
For real though it's not too bad. Doesn't take too long to get it down if you're already used to spammy gameplay
dim spindle
Many ramps, much clappa, hate-RB, execute occasionally
Oh you're slayer
Can't help ya. God speed
spare steppe
Yup zug zug
bitter moss
Sorry i have a question but is it normal that have the feeling that i don't have a lot of proc of reap the storm ?
spare steppe
I do love MT too
spare steppe
Sorry i have a question but is it normal that have the feeling that i don't have...
Feels aren’t reals, probably can log and look at % procs
olive wraith
Thane and Slayer can both have broken buffs, as long as it comes from Arms. Bala...
Or buff bt even more and buff tb
Clap becomes tb during avatar 
spare steppe
what if they buff BT for Thane, and execute for Slayer?
Blasphemy
You’re skipping the lord and savior s3 RB
olive wraith
Obviously drop avatar extension and tc cdr
olive wraith
You’re skipping the lord and savior s3 RB
Yuck
vast haven
Rb spam is peak fury
olive wraith
what if they buff BT for Thane, and execute for Slayer?
Most logical thing
olive wraith
Rb spam is peak fury
Rb>ramp? Nah friend
dense elbow
RB spam is worst itteration
spare steppe
RB spam was fun but I do enjoy this Ramp prio for slayer
vast haven
Well obv not that much but I cant see a world where you wouldn't press ramp
dense elbow
100%
spare steppe
It feels really fun during CDs
thorny epoch
Sorry i have a question but is it normal that have the feeling that i don't have...
I disagree with the others. Your feelings are real and can be totally normal. Its just hard to associate what you feel into math to break down if something is wrong.
hybrid cargo
The complaint isn't ramp>rb its bt>rb
vast haven
It’s not fine to ignore rage cap to press rb
Yea that level of degen is obviously dum
But ramp at high rage > rb > ramp is fine and when I have the most fun as fury
toxic plank
hi for raid its thane or slayer?
hybrid cargo
Depends on the boss
river nimbus
worn rain
no
bitter palm
i wish they did
worn rain
now continue
bitter palm
good luck being tuned around 50 stacks
and never getting 50 stacks outside of last boss of the raid
dim spindle
Oh come on it was so much fun as long as you were in a guild that took 8-10 mins to kill a boss
wary fjord
It's ass yeah, it was great meme
bitter moss
I disagree with the others. Your feelings are real and can be totally normal. It...
Hahah thats ok i wasn't very precise on what i was saying i was more thinking about proc of sudden death to reduce the cooldown of blade storm
thorny epoch
I wish all my buttons were execute and that execute had a chance to proc blade storm and that execute was usable while bladestorming..... have I gone too far?
dim spindle
You guys are no fun
olive wraith
Yea that level of degen is obviously dum
But ramp at high rage > rb > ramp is f...
This is not s3 rb though
dim spindle
Wait a second... juggernaut, but for BT?
Sounds like a winner to me
Thane and Slayer happy
delicate thicket
lmao
wary fjord
I wish execute proc'd execute, which then proceeded to proc execute, infinitely
delicate thicket
how to make sure your spec sucks
dim spindle
I wish execute proc'd execute, which then proceeded to proc execute, infinitely
Now we're cooking with gas
vast haven
This is not s3 rb though
Wasn't that only rb x3 > ramp after bladestorm to abuse the stupid talent?
olive wraith
Wasn't that only rb x3 > ramp after bladestorm to abuse the stupid talent?
Nope. Rb at rage cap as long as you’re enraged
For aoe at least
vast haven
Hmm I was misplaying that shit then LOL
modest condor
nah, rampage had higher prio at rage cap
dim spindle
So is it confirmed that various "end game" content has 100% chance to drop voidshards now? About to go farm but there's always an 80% chance it's bugged
bitter palm
not yet
fleet yarrow
voidshard
dim spindle
no way
fleet yarrow
ise
hybrid cargo
I just want rb to out prio bt is that so wrong
fleet yarrow
use on mythic weapon or crafter/doesn't matter?
olive wraith
nah, rampage had higher prio at rage cap
Cap, everyone was spamming rb at cap
bitter palm
use on mythic weapon or crafter/doesn't matter?
doesnt matter
modest condor
Cap, everyone was spamming rb at cap
everyone was playing it wrong then
the apl was rampage at rage cap
vast haven
So is it confirmed that various "end game" content has 100% chance to drop voids...
I havent seen a news post of it going live yet
bitter palm
bro this voidshard shit
dim spindle
Well it is still "tomorrow" but I'm still salty
dim spindle
gonna make me crash out
Farm more rituals, it will make you feel better
vast haven
Noon for them
bitter palm
so in a few hours
olive wraith
everyone was playing it wrong then
Except it produced higher damage in aoe
thorny epoch
I just want rb to out prio bt is that so wrong
If you turn the meters off it can out prio bt for you or at least in your heart. Sometimes pressing the buttons that makes you happy is more important than the ones that increase your dps.
dim spindle
I farmed 11 with a guildie group right after reset. Do not recommend
waxen vale
meters shouldn’t be on anyway they are useless whos line is it anyway made up vibe coded
dim spindle
One of them got 17. Asshole
thorny epoch
I did all 20 shards on my warrior yesterday took like an hour and a half was rough.
dim spindle
But he did convince a bunch of people at the "stone" that clicking 4+ shrines increases the voidshard droprate
dim spindle
As many as you like
hybrid cargo
Allll
dim spindle
As long as they're 6/6 heroic or mythic
brazen kernel
Is mountain thane or slayer currently better for raid single target?
waxen vale
yep
bitter palm
Is mountain thane or slayer currently better for raid single target?
slayer
dim spindle
I kinda wish crucible was upgradeable... still wouldn't be as good as the S tier raid trinkets but the proc is too much fun for zooming around m+
dim spindle
https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gif-13746396505480870613
It was extra funny that a bunch of people whispering him didn't have shrine spawns yet
thorny epoch
I need to go sim see what trinkets my warrior should use i have too many of them
dim spindle
WHERE ARE THE SHRINES
dusk harbor
I need to go sim see what trinkets my warrior should use i have too many of them
Gaze and Hunger XD
dim spindle
I finally got myself a heart to replace crucible last night. Good times
thorny epoch
Gaze and Hunger XD
I have myth gaze and hunger but puzzlebox felt pretty good also but im sure you are right.
brazen kernel
slayer
I'm only able to find fury M+ specs. Where would I even look for the post 12.0.5 slayer change raid spec?
dim spindle
Only heroic but I still got a little boost of dopamine
bitter palm
I'm only able to find fury M+ specs. Where would I even look for the post 12.0.5...
wowhead
dim spindle
I have myth gaze and hunger but puzzlebox felt pretty good also but im sure you ...
Felt pretty good? Ah, a masochist
dusk harbor
I have myth gaze and hunger but puzzlebox felt pretty good also but im sure you ...
Go Play mage instead of Puzzlebox if you want to cast XD 😛
dim spindle
I won't yuck your yum
thorny epoch
I have a mythic guidon as well that was going to be disenchanted but guessing its not very good.
dim spindle
Funnel schmunnel
bitter palm
truth nuke...
dim spindle
Anyway, I started clapping
bitter palm
slayer does 2x st and does 85% of colos aoe
odd crater
Is Myth/Crafted still ideal after considering the new weapon upgrades?
Does Crafted go to the same max as 6/6 myth?
thorny epoch
Like i said my warrior is only a week old I came here to get resources and do a bunch of reading. Right now im just kinda hanging out so I dont expect everything answered but its why im kinda dumb on gear and such
steel shard
with dk i can fit into any comp
dim spindle
Like i said my warrior is only a week old I came here to get resources and do a ...
You're in the right place, just make sure to keep a steady supply of hopium and a healthy side stash of copium
steel shard
rather than phys only
bitter palm
absolute freak rng
dim spindle
I know a guy, btw
thorny epoch
Is Myth/Crafted still ideal after considering the new weapon upgrades?
Does Cra...
Crafted is just as far behind after the upgrade as before
bitter palm
arms can play with any comp and do the highest keys
dim spindle
Oh and don't mind the doomers. They know not what they do
bitter palm
shaman isnt actually that big on slayer massacre
u just fill with op more
apl isnt optimized for non shaman
bitter palm
to cs*
steel shard
why do i rage starve during cds
dim spindle
arms can play with any comp and do the highest keys
Sounds appealing, problem is it's Arms 🙁
thorny epoch
You're in the right place, just make sure to keep a steady supply of hopium and ...
I main shadow priest and play havoc demon hunter, frost dk, and fire mage. Hopium is my life blood.
dim spindle
why do i rage starve during cds
This would trigger me bigly
bitter palm
lemme put
cs gives 15 rage on the same node
as cs grants sweepign strikes
which is like 9 billion dps talent in aoe
dim spindle
I main shadow priest and play havoc demon hunter, frost dk, and fire mage. Hopiu...
At least havoc is still pretty damn good. Frost doesn't seem too awful now either
I have a die hard havoc guildie that still kills it
bitter palm
no shaman
rsham is pretty cracked but mw is big too
and if u play bear u play mw so no skyfury
u can brew rsham easily no motw not ideal but
thorny epoch
At least havoc is still pretty damn good. Frost doesn't seem too awful now eithe...
I also just leveled an enhance shaman and an outlaw rogue.... but im not quite down bad enough to play them yet. Just gearing them for future seasons
bitter palm
idk boomie is actually good
dim spindle
Rogue is eating good now too, aren't they?
At least one of the specs... forget which
thorny epoch
Rogue is eating good now too, aren't they?
Not outlaw lol
scenic grove
where can I find rules in warcraftlogs? been looking but I'm not finding anything, want to see which adds are excluded etc
dim spindle
All I know is aff is pretty nasty in keys now. My baby lock is about 265 and is already at 120k overalls with low keys/pug tank pulls without an aug
bitter palm
the problem with dk
radiant plank
idk i dont see the benefit of playing rogue over ret
Actually benefit from monk buffs
bitter palm
is having to play it
dim spindle
ST is bad-ish though
thorny epoch
idk i dont see the benefit of playing rogue over ret
Ret isnt pure phys so some rogue specs can make better value of the buffs and tools. But thats a general answer in today's meta you probably wouldnt
steel shard
dude being fucking ranged melee
bitter palm
Actually benefit from monk buffs
ye but ret jsut does more damage
steel shard
i crazy tho
bitter palm
and is more useful
radiant plank
how many classes are you gonna level and gear
Infinite alts
thorny epoch
how many classes are you gonna level and gear
For me i try to have 2 of every class geared.... but im a bit of an over achiever
smoky vale
rip arms rework
bitter palm
he has a new one
who
smoky vale
you
radiant plank
next one is rework arms
smoky vale
io check
thorny epoch
Gearing is so fast right now their is just no reason not to. Takes like 1 week to get to 286 now.
dim spindle
wow players when another wow player plays alts
Oh damn there really is 2 of them
Isn't this the fury channel? MODS
steel shard
Gearing is so fast right now their is just no reason not to. Takes like 1 week t...
coin system do be busted
smoky vale
thats not me 🙁
thorny epoch
Better than me my main is barely cracking 3400 I got the saddle and was like f it im out
dim spindle
I could be 4k by now but I just don't really feel like it tbh
bitter palm
it is coming back soon
problem is
2 people in the group
work different shifts
so its legit impossible to play
radiant plank
find a new grp impossible challenge
dim spindle
Just roll druids
bitter palm
find a new grp impossible challenge
aint doing that
thorny epoch
I could be 4k by now but I just don't really feel like it tbh
If my healer was doing my dps and my tank was doing my healers healing i would probably be 4200 by now 🙁 skill issues all around.
bitter palm
actually fucking around is more important
thorny epoch
The key to a happy life
I havent got this key yet. How often do I need to talk to lindormi
bitter palm
find a new grp impossible challenge
i dont think im lucky
im just doing 100-110k st in m+
like perma
dim spindle
I havent got this key yet. How often do I need to talk to lindormi
It comes from the 4k rating achievement
dim spindle
You essentially win life when you get that
thorny epoch
So i won life and then midnight came out and cucked me? Damn
dim spindle
Let's go to the OFFICIAL wow forums and lodge formal complaints
Using AI with bullet points
thorny epoch
My spriest does like 115k on crawth.... its kinda fun but in a non amped st encounter im usually only in the high 80s
dim spindle
I'm not even sure what I do on bosses. I refuse to switch to "current" from "overall"
thorny epoch
My warrior is only doing 65 to 70k st which is why im trying to learn lol
dim spindle
If I had to guess it's at least 20-120k
bitter palm
play slarms
dim spindle
Why doesn't zerk shout remove chains. Unfair
dim spindle
Does it?
covert blaze
Why doesn't zerk shout remove chains. Unfair
lol
covert coyote
yep
thorny epoch
Yeah its a snare
dim spindle
wtf
thorny epoch
Not trolling. Helping them parse
bitter palm
depends on the key
dim spindle
I swear I saw that it didn't work there 🙁
dim spindle
Not trolling. Helping them parse
ty
smoky vale
yeah bro
dim spindle
wasted global
Good point, now I don't feel bad about it
bitter palm
or i come na and me u gio
covert coyote
zerker rage is oGCD
bitter palm
4k in a day
covert blaze
come NA and i play rogue phys comp 5k io ez
bitter palm
ret is better gang
covert blaze
you play ret i play rogue or some shit idk
dim spindle
I also just learned that fearless removes the xal affix we had last week. Just before reset
bitter palm
zhai
smoky vale
@eternal sundial
bitter palm
am i lost or does ret feel squishy
warm crag
come NA and i play rogue phys comp 5k io ez
post the picture
dim spindle
But that's new so that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it
covert blaze
post the picture
bitter palm
im not used to this
warm crag
bitter palm
drowsy heron
anyone know if the hotfix for the core drops was deployed yet?
smoky vale
covert blaze
and hten i just sit there with no defensives
yeah combinin sov and dp was the worst change ever its so shit
dim spindle
anyone know if the hotfix for the core drops was deployed yet?
nyet, comrade
bitter palm
yeah
warm crag
why do you have a screenshot of the gif
drowsy heron
nyet, comrade
ty
smoky vale
why do you have a screenshot of the gif
bitter palm
ON A 40% DR WALL
smoky vale
warm crag
get the gif
covert blaze
dp is 30%
warm crag
@solemn plover
sullen dove
first time ever trying white monster its not too shabby
warm crag
i will tell the owner of that page to check it in a week
dim spindle
first time ever trying white monster its not too shabby
I saw on Facebook that the Monster logo represents 666
covert blaze
40% with sov no
no, 30% with sov
sullen dove
a very normal facebook post im sure
smoky vale
hi
coarse nest
smoky vale
are you watching
bitter palm
i swear i saw a talent that says dp is increased by 10%
dim spindle
Pretty sure it's illegal for Facebook posts to be untrue, so
sullen dove
real
smoky vale
covert blaze
yees, sov but you ar elooking at the dp tooltip afteer the sov 10%
dim spindle
i swear i saw a talent that says dp is increased by 10%
"dp"? 😳
bitter palm
yees, sov but you ar elooking at the dp tooltip afteer the sov 10%
so its 20% baseline
wack
coarse nest
covert blaze
yes
pallid brook
heyall
warm crag
smoky vale
covert blaze
very cool in alleria when you are in a 2 melee comp and you get marked by something every 20 seconds
bitter palm
warm crag
can you guys believe how much damage ele is doing
smoky vale
that was a fun week
coarse nest
dim spindle
can you guys believe how much damage ele is doing
I can't believe how little damage our ele does
dim spindle
But it's because of the tanks moving out of earthquake obv
ember leaf
so when are the voidshard changes coming in
covert blaze
erfquake
bitter palm
never apparently
covert blaze
cool spell
astral moss
Hopefully soon. Ritual site spam is such ass.
dim spindle
so when are the voidshard changes coming in
If we all concentrate and believe really hard that changes are live they will surely manifest
It worked for warrior buffs, after all
dim spindle
Didn't even have to shut down the server
dim spindle
Real, I suffer minor PI withdrawals after every dungeon with a kind priest
smoky vale
covert blaze
@bitter palm shouldve set up my timeline addon to not be on top of my character before the keey methinks
dim spindle
lol
bitter palm
<@692035495718551564> shouldve set up my timeline addon to not be on top of my c...
easier to see
W location
waxen vigil
<@146828137634856960>
dim spindle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1472976965353996413/1487209436526415993/e...
Tank lived. Success
I've always thought that friendly fire damage should count towards the meter
floral wasp
MT or Slayer for Mythic Chimerus?
fading sky
Had this happen in a 12 random interrupts
fading sky
MT or Slayer for Mythic Chimerus?
What ever u prefer
waxen vigil
Ok well Dratnos jumped in and blew us up
dim spindle
Horns/No Horns is hard
waxen vigil
On purpose
smoky vale
grrrr
bitter palm
and he lived
jaunty wyvern
Hi, is this the channel to ask questions abt furry war?
bitter palm
goat stuff only
dim spindle
Give that man a trophy
dim spindle
Hi, is this the channel to ask questions abt furry war?
You'd never guess it with all the Arms presence but yeah. In theory
Don't mind them
jaunty wyvern
i got a simply question then
bitter palm
You'd never guess it with all the Arms presence but yeah. In theory
superior spec wcyd
dim spindle
We'll have a simply answer
mental ermine
Why can't you be a furry arms war?
dim spindle
Why can't you be a furry arms war?
Stop
bitter palm
streaming gacha...
jaunty wyvern
Why is everyone switching to slayer even tho he deals less dmgh
dim spindle
no furries
jaunty wyvern
dim spindle
Why is everyone switching to slayer even tho he deals less dmgh
Are they? Slayer is solid and even better in some raid fights
smoky crescent
anyone got a macro for puzzle box into combat pot
dim spindle
Probably all in heroic
jaunty wyvern
yeah i mean in M+
jaunty wyvern
wich one is better?
jaunty wyvern
i am a Main Prot, and sometimes i just wanna go a dps arround
mental ermine
It probably depends on the M+ dungeon
jaunty wyvern
normaly Fury has better sync with gear
so i choose him, but now i wanna be a better dps
dim spindle
On paper Thane is generally better in most m+ overalls, Slayer wins in ST and less aoe
serene cloud
Better depends a bit on how the pulls are happening. Thane is generally safer and better at bigger/ longer pulls, and slayer is generally better at bursty / quicker pulls
dim spindle
sustained aoe*
heavy hare
is there a general rule of thumb of priority for pressing bloodthirst/bloodbath and raging blow/crushing blow in M+?
mental ermine
Isn't Prot prio'ing crit/haste more than mastery/haste? Would that lean it more towards col arms?
smoky vale
red name abuser
?
dim spindle
Wowhead has an up to date rotation/priority guide
smoky vale
if i do a key swordish the yellow is gonna get mad at me
dim spindle
But BT is top priority besides rampage, even above rampage in certain situations
floral wasp
is there a general rule of thumb of priority for pressing bloodthirst/bloodbath ...
raging blow only if you have nothing else to click on
dim spindle
BT crushes much harder than raging does. Go figure
jaunty wyvern
why is that 50 TOP war are using slayer then
heavy hare
thanks guys
dim spindle
top warriors where
dim spindle
yeah you can't take murlock numbers as gospel
ocean grove
Are sims fucked?
jaunty wyvern
still must be a correlation
serene cloud
Some of the difference is comfort and group composition - I'm generally better playing Thane since it makes more sense to me
ocean grove
This is a 2 target sims
dim spindle
Nox plays fury eh?
ocean grove
No Raging Blow Cast
thorny epoch
A correlation between slayer warriors and Murlocks? God i hope not
rich dune
Just wanna share that slayer fury is amazing in m+🤘🏻 rotation is so much more fun than thane
lethal edge
Does anyone know if heart of wind is better than puzzle box?
dim spindle
I mean they all switch from fury to slayer, too
dim spindle
Just wanna share that slayer fury is amazing in m+🤘🏻 rotation is so much more ...
That's just, like, your opinion, man
jaunty wyvern
Boss dmg?
dim spindle
Slayer wins on boss damage
jaunty wyvern
yeah thought so
dim spindle
Just wanna share that slayer fury is amazing in m+🤘🏻 rotation is so much more ...
But both specs are great, as long as they aren't Arms
or UH
rich dune
That's just, like, your opinion, man
That’s exactly what im sharing
jaunty wyvern
isnt Arms S tier?
dim spindle
If you're a nerd, sure
thorny epoch
Arms is only half the sword that fury is. Picking arms would be silly
dim spindle
jk I love our brothers in Arms
dim spindle
No offense taken, just don't say that over in the Arms channel. They're bullies
I offered to trade OF for Demolish and they were v mean
jaunty wyvern
from D to S tier
thorny epoch
If someone looks at a guy swinging 2 huge ass swords and says "can i just swing 1 sword please" then I think its fair to criticize that man
jaunty wyvern
blizzard sure knows what they are doing
serene cloud
Arms is... okay. A bit too slow for me to want to get good at it. I much prefer the build/spend in Fury
mental ermine
arms is for some of us who don't want to do 200 apm
jaunty wyvern
If someone looks at a guy swinging 2 huge ass swords and says "can i just swing ...
Hahahahahaha
dim spindle
arms is for some of us who don't want to do 200 apm
exactly
dim spindle
Like I always say, if you're not actively risking your physical health playing your spec are you even a real gamer?
thorny epoch
Why were we blessed with 10 fingers if we were not meant to be pressing 10 buttons every second?
dim spindle
I think not
olive wraith
arms is for some of us who don't want to do 200 apm
Arms is like 5-7 less apm
mental ermine
So 5 keys set to rampage and another 5 to BT?
dim spindle
Arms is like 5-7 less apm
57?
jaunty wyvern
XD
dim spindle
Could be worse. Could be 6-7
mental ermine
no
jaunty wyvern
Could be worse. Could be 6-7
thorny epoch
So 5 keys set to rampage and another 5 to BT?
5 of mine are rampage 3 are thunderclap 2 are bloodthirst and 1 is rampage.... im a noob though.
mental ermine
The real single button rotations was setting up your keyboard so you could roll your face a certain direction to do your rotation
dim spindle
Ideal fury keyboard
waxen vale
red and everything
thorny epoch
Woman not included
Why not?
dim spindle
Hmm, their thumb is kinda manly isn't it. That's okay, though
neat gazelle
arms is still doing more overral than fury right? in m+
spare steppe
arms is still doing more overral than fury right? in m+
Depends on the tank imo
thorny epoch
arms is still doing more overral than fury right? in m+
My understanding is a big depends
young swan
opposite
young swan
colossus just better
dim spindle
Now that's just heresy
mental ermine
Col is really fun until you get to the boss
young swan
yeah unfortunately u just need funnel
mental ermine
For the bosses w/ cleave it's also pretty awesome
young swan
but insofar as consistent large pulls is concerned, colossus is just betetr
dim spindle
Colossus may put out better numbers, but Fury involves much higher levels of testosterone and cool points
And we can fart thunder. Beat that
dim spindle
Demolish Schmemolish
neat gazelle
was gunna try arms in keys, but never done the rotation before so was gunna check out wowhead. is arms way harder than fury?
jaunty wyvern
was gunna try arms in keys, but never done the rotation before so was gunna chec...
no
mental ermine
Just different...
dim spindle
I really do need to give arms a try, I just dread setting up keybinds and UI so so much
dim spindle
Haven't tried it since, uh... Legion maybe? For about 5 minutes. Hated it
mental ermine
You do want to have a decent amount of crit for arms though
neat gazelle
i think my crit without switching my current enchants / gems etc from fury is like 25.. also not using a crit flask.. so id say mid 30s i could ave?
dim spindle
I think if I swapped some pieces around I'd be sitting at around 800ish... lots of mastery though
Already have a decent chunk of crit, always good for m+ and sim agrees
mental ermine
I switch between the two and mainly just use my oh weap and jewelry to swap between more mastery vs crit and vice versa
dim spindle
And my mythic voidcleaver whirly-magig has +avoidance. Will be very sad replacing it in S2
mental ermine
Are voidcores still crap or did they do the hotfix for that?
dim spindle
Still crap as far as I can see
sinful pelican
Any update on 100% drop rate
dim spindle
Saw a "ascendant voidcore" blue post from an hour ago, was disappointed upon clicking
mental ermine
Yea was just about crafted weapons
Have 0 drive to do any content until it gets fixed
dim spindle
It'll probably be bugged when they hotfix it, anyway
"oops, we forgot the 1 in '100%'"
deep sapphire
What do you mean you don't wanna do 2 minute slop on repeat to get your cores?
dim spindle
Polymarket should start letting us bet on if and to what extent hotfixes and patches will be bugged
Easy money
mental ermine
What do you mean you don't wanna do 2 minute slop on repeat to get your cores?
Spent 1.5hrs getting 2 cores last night... my rng luck is not good
mental ermine
not 2 full cores... 2 shards for 1 core
oak pecan
are shards 100% drop rate yet?
bitter palm
no
ancient olive
got myth track gaze and heart in same raid I feel blessed
unreal onyx
@dense elbow 287.75 with all crests spent
and I already got a voidforge upgrade item
undone flower
Spent 1.5hrs getting 2 cores last night... my rng luck is not good
I got lucky I guess I did all 19 in 2h or so
I did about 60-70 rituals
worn rain
did 20 and got 1
rancid ermine
When are the morons pushing the hotfix today. I guess is takes a great technological feat to change a drop rate from 33% to 100%
smoky nacelle
When are the morons pushing the hotfix today. I guess is takes a great technolo...
Afternoon my ass, probably won't hit till tomorrow
wise cave
When are the morons pushing the hotfix today. I guess is takes a great technolo...
What MMO did you make?
bitter palm
What MMO did you make?
bro its a multi billion corporation
with thousands of employees
the fact that the shards released at this drop rate
is criminal
wise cave
How do you figure?
I've gotten 11 so far. Seems fine to me.
Maybe try being better at the game.
junior gale
🪤
random shadow
I did about 60-70 rituals
That sounds mad boring
Im hoping the hot fix is soon so I can just do hero raid and some keys
Or delves
undone flower
That was fine
delicate thicket
the fact that the shards released at this drop rate
been getting annoyed at all the garbage they're pushing every single patch. at this point its on me and I should expect everything to release bugged
undone flower
Fun equivalent to vault filling 8 dungeons, so 0 content fun, it’s just vibing on voice
random shadow
Could just reclear raids and slam bosses
random shadow
Benched on reclears
random shadow
Could either or
undone flower
Pug raid is worse than spamming rituals for me
lavish sierra
The newest post mentions they pushed out a hotfix 15 mins ago or whatever . Is that the same one as the updated drop rate
solar gale
i have 250ilvl fwarr mountain thane avatar vs slayer with bladestorm. my mountain thane in dungeons does like 30-40k dps overall more is it because my weapons are trash or what
cerulean badger
The newest post mentions they pushed out a hotfix 15 mins ago or whatever . Is ...
can you link?
olive wraith
i have 250ilvl fwarr mountain thane avatar vs slayer with bladestorm. my mountai...
Thane has higher overalls generally
Will also be dungeon/group dependent
solar gale
is there any weapon damage scaling connected with bladestorm since i have 250 and 240 ilvl weapons
olive wraith
That’s not the reason
solar gale
like i dont have set bonus currently anything and on overall damages few dungs bladestorm + reap + rampage are on par
olive wraith
Doesn’t seem odd to me
solar gale
so mountain thane it is saw noxiv pushing some keys as slayer but doesnt seem good
rapid helm
What is the most up to date Slayer fury video guide for new warriors atm post buffs?
dense elbow
indeed, slayer is the bestest
frank dawn
slayer is more fun
until that one key every now and then when sudden death just tells you toc ompletely fuck off and bladestorm never lines up with anything the way you want it to
olive wraith
Nah thane is cooler
astral path
Yeah but then you also get that one key that you never run out of SD procs
And ascend
olive wraith
so mountain thane it is saw noxiv pushing some keys as slayer but doesnt seem go...
What key levels are you doing
solar gale
+10 nothing specific
olive wraith
Mobs also just don’t live that long at 10s
hot shell
Noxiv just plays slayer cause he enjoys it more. Which is 100% understandable
olive wraith
You could also just be getting out bursted
solar gale
well my warr is 250ilvl u can imagine i still have some blue pieces xd
olive wraith
Just giving context
steel shard
ITS LIVE
solar gale
the thing is i finish overall like 105,000 dps on overall as mountain thane vs 65k as slayer in the same dungeon
steel shard
THEY DROP FOR 100% ONJW
solar gale
xd
steel shard
LETS GOOOOOOOOO
olive wraith
Nothing wrong with where you’re at
steel shard
LOOK AT WOWHEAD
smoky nacelle
Time to farm boys
olive wraith
the thing is i finish overall like 105,000 dps on overall as mountain thane vs 6...
Might be misplay issue
solar gale
like i line recklessness with bladestorm and all only cant understand when do u use improved whirlwind do u even proc it
gilded dune
olive wraith
like i line recklessness with bladestorm and all only cant understand when do u ...
Are you holding rek
solar gale
holding like 5 sec cuz it doesnt line with bladestorm for some reason
solar gale
like without the set bonus u just do recklessness into odyn's right
and then bs
when ready
rapid helm
What is y'alls favorite, up-to-date slayer guide video?
solar gale
like as slayer on aoe i hit like 150k and dead on mountain ive been hitting 200k+ on same pull is bladestorm hard target capped or thunder clap too op for aoe or because im lacking set bonus + some stats rampage does less so it cant compensate not having thunder clap
olive wraith
Clap is better
olive wraith
Stats don’t matter
solar gale
so wep doesnt matter stats dont matter what matters
olive wraith
What is y'alls favorite, up-to-date slayer guide video?
Not sure there’s been any recent ones. Most just follow wowhead anyways
next mica
gaze > 2nd weapon for voidshard?
olive wraith
It’s not gonna make slayer =thane on aoe
solar gale
so thane in theory is unbeatable by slayer on aoe unless u get insane procs as slayer
haughty carbon
it's live on EU too ?
olive wraith
Pretty much
solar gale
what favors slayer over mountain in high keys u pull less mobs ?