#fury

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rancid ledge
woven valley
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I know imma be saving rolls for Lura kills once I get my current gear done

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Two bis and a sick ass axe ๐Ÿช“

timber bluff
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When I try to do this in raid.
Epic fail

undone flower
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Windows+shift+S

wary salmon
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Or print screen. Greenshot the goat as well

timber bluff
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Twas lazy

woven valley
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lazy is life

timber bluff
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Indeed

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Too busy smashing keyboard and mouse

woven valley
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cant do anything if my face is smashed into my keyboard

timber bluff
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Lmao

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How to play fury warrior.
Smash face on keyboard and finger tf out of your mmo mouse.

undone flower
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I play with the mouse that came out with my pc

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8y ago

timber bluff
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I just made a few new builds

indigo arch
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I miss my old mouse

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logitech g5

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peak mouse tbh

odd vapor
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Is it really necessary to play arms to push high keys? Just wanna play fury.. doing 17s atm

mint moat
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is slayer arms doing more overrall then thane right now?

winter shoal
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Unlikely

rain sierra
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what talent do you drop for enraged regen?

mint moat
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massacre

olive wraith
olive wraith
spark coral
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finally managed to pug some mythic bosses and rolled a 98 on the first heart of ancient hunger i've seen this season

drowsy heron
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Slayer be PUMPIN

lusty jungle
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gz champ

scarlet swift
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Chat, im proud, did my first Mythic raid

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parsed a 57 for ilvl on vora

undone flower
scarlet swift
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Parsed my heart out and did half the dmg of a shaman at same ilvl parse.

Warriors fun but this dmg profile aint it this season

languid willow
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Yea this is paladins lol

bitter palm
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thats a gray arms parse

languid willow
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Legit lmao

sullen dove
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the only thing it kinda says is you two play at like a "similar skill level" to eachother vs people at the same gear as each of you

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like if you had 7 more ilvl to match the shaman's ilvl and you both parse the same ilvl parse nothing really changes except your actual parse the green 33 on the left just goes up and you match him more and just do more damage on account of having 7 more ilvls, and your actual parse% will likely be closer together

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thats also not half of his dmg xd its like 85% of his dmg maybe at best

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but if u just had more ilvl you'd be a lot closer to him for sure

scarlet swift
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Is that how itโ€™s read?

sullen dove
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yea its like you two played better than 55% of the people on that boss at your current item level

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for him his ilvl is higher so his damage is naturally higher but his "skill" so to speak is about the same as yours regarding that

random shadow
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The higher ilevel you go you're also being compared to the usually higher top end players like mr dish

sullen dove
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only significant thing ilvl parses show is just how well you play if you are a bit behind on gear

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truth nuke

random shadow
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Like if me and dish are 280. Im competing with a ce or hof cracked players like him

bitter palm
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too much ๐Ÿฅ„

random shadow
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Whats his ilvl

scarlet swift
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Iโ€™m super behind

random shadow
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287?

bitter palm
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300

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at this point prolly

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he is in s2 gear

sullen dove
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yep

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already hof mythic troll king zuga zugalah in the vilebranch raid

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which is def where we goin

random shadow
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Do we at elast get MS buffa

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In s2

sullen dove
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you will get another 10% raging blow buff and you will like it

random shadow
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10% of 0 is still 0

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No dice

scarlet swift
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They can raging blow me at that point

bitter palm
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thoughts?

sullen dove
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send it

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lets see them complain about fury aoe then

bitter palm
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"waaa no uncapped aoe!!!"

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90% of ur dmg in first pull algethar is rend

scarlet swift
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Urs is bs

woven valley
sullen dove
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true

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cone unequip rend from bars

bitter palm
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i will replace all my buttons with rend

sullen dove
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do more dps than one button rotation

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truegi

bitter palm
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truth nuke

random shadow
undone flower
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Im unaware if all specs apex talents are fully fixed

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Probably safe to bet apex tier sets for S3

sullen dove
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yea prolly

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they'll give us a half decent one and then not add its mechanics to our apex in next xpac while they add 80% of the other tiersets into other classes

thorn hearth
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we gonna get some bs about wirlwind

sullen dove
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i mean our hero talent tiersets last xpac were fuckin amazing

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and they just took absolutely 0 of anything from any of them and didnt slap em in our kits

thorn hearth
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and never again

sullen dove
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ty for nothing blizz chuds

bitter palm
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they added the colo one

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its just significantly worse

sullen dove
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w

thorn hearth
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the fury warriors are talking dawg

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dont remind me of arms

sullen dove
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tbh idek what the colo tierset was

bitter palm
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and they didnt add the part that actually made it good

thorn hearth
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straight up tragic

bitter palm
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it was like

sullen dove
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almost guaranteed never played that shit

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when fury was eipc

bitter palm
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20% demolish damage

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ms crits increase deep wounds and rend damage

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(cut to the bone)

sullen dove
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big

bitter palm
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demolish makes ur next ms always crit

thorn hearth
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thought they fixed deeep wounds with taht?

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or was that something else

bitter palm
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wdym fixed

thorn hearth
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there was some bug fix about deep wounds i thought

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didnt read it though

bitter palm
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look at that demo damage

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hooooooly

sullen dove
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what on aoe

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is that like not normally

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seems kinda cool

thorn hearth
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isnt that on like a 45 sec cd jesus

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how did it do so much

bitter palm
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25ish

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thats just tww s3

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colossus

thorn hearth
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oh thats not as bad

drowsy glen
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is dungeon slice good for simming for m+?

thorn hearth
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not really

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dungeon slice isnt really good for anything in my experience

drowsy glen
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so how do we sim for it

thorn hearth
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im also dumb as fuck though so maybe i did it wrong or sum

bitter palm
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1min 8t

undone flower
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One day

thorn hearth
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really? what is it

undone flower
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Improved ww hits X additional targets

sullen dove
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would be nice but they prolly just bring down the cleaved dmg

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and it basically just becomes blade flurry at that point

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but with more annoying maintenance

thorn hearth
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isnt taht just a skil

undone flower
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As it always be

sullen dove
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cluegert

thorn hearth
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i thought it was like if it hits more than 5 targets it hits again

undone flower
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OF is totally optional

thorn hearth
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like the feet OF or...

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not that im like that jsut wondering

smoky vale
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@sullen dove why leave ๐Ÿ™

undone flower
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Gio

undone flower
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Do you think : existence of multiple gio counts for existence of multiple Xan mentioned bingo slot ?

unborn musk
undone flower
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Bingo week ends tomorrow, still no bingo

smoky vale
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really..

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wtf

thorn hearth
fiery edge
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aw hell naw

hot shell
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Why would you say that xD

fiery edge
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bro i got kicked sadge

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just wanna do MT

humble sierra
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hi everyone, question for slayers, waht do u do opener on multitarget?

somber thicket
dense elbow
neat gazelle
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tried both slayer and thane in some bigger keys.. i think i like thane more mainly because of the tankiness lol. the overrall was just a tad bit better too. and its easier to play ๐Ÿ™‚

thorn hearth
dense elbow
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Good

fiery edge
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deserved

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arms kicking foory out kinda make sense i guess

thorn hearth
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damn

thorn hearth
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and it was ina 10 too

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a low ass key and they still ebin racist

dense elbow
balmy compass
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Hey

dense elbow
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You just jinxed us. Hi

balmy compass
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just returned to wow and bought expansion today xxD
I was playing fury warrior slayer for both m+ and raids last tww season

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so whats like meta now for fury warrior

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for raid its different and m+ its different spec?

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i mean talent*

fiery edge
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i'll make sure you'll reroll from this class

dense elbow
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Nothing changed since you left

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It is still the exact scenario, some twists to talents, but just copy a build from #dps-faq and adjust it to your preferences

balmy compass
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Everything was BiS slot for me (almost) with max track in last season..so all these are wasted for now/

humble sierra
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thx guys

dense elbow
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Yer welcome, now go blast

fiery edge
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just foory stays the same sadge

balmy compass
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omg..i paid for boosting to get those bis xD like pauldrons trinkets haha

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nvm

fiery edge
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u wut

balmy compass
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yeah i paid gold to get carried and then just roll on drops for mythic raids

dense elbow
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Prob should say that out loud, people will judge you negatively

balmy compass
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what to do..i play solo ๐Ÿ™ no pugs take me

fiery edge
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hmmm monkahmm

dense elbow
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I gotten my raid BiS from PuGing

balmy compass
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naice

dense elbow
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If you got more money than time, I wont judge you personally for boosting your char. But, for me that also undermines the point, the achievement of getting the reward

balmy compass
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have time but less money still i went for it to at least experience higher m+ keys

warm crag
balmy compass
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raids were like i could go max upto 2/8

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with NoP

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beyond that couldn't

warm crag
balmy compass
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So mountane thane for m+ and slayer for ST?

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MN S01?

dense elbow
# warm crag When the reward is necessary to compete in the highest keys its kinda fair

Yep, i agree. I just got that old school way of thinking. That if I didnt deserve it, if I didnt work for it - then it got no dopamine being sent. It will feel like cheating in a single player game.

No harm done, nothing changes for anyone. The only one affected is me and how I care about it.

I would argue, if you doing content that requires the ultimate gear (that would be the 0.0001% edge push, not title range), you also can work within the system to get content done within what I perceive as morally pure boost. Aka, getting into the raid and pulling my weight, but I am in there on their farm, cause I helped them out during early m+ farm for their Raiders.

That kind of deal

undone flower
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That kind of deal is exact same as paying gold in my view, idc about neither, ppl do whatever they want, no one is hurt by it

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You help mythic raiders when you pay them too

quartz plaza
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Hi im actualy playing m+ in +17 and im wondering if going to slayer is better or not, i saw some people saying slayer as a little more dmg but take more damage im not really sure about wich spec we should play with the last patch.

cerulean badger
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i think "both good play whatever you enjoy most" is the current state of fury? with thane being a bit higher in aoe overall and slayer a bit more prio and singletarget damage?

quartz plaza
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Yeah thats what i saw too im more of a slayer player than thane but didnt want to cause problem to my mate x), im feeling like thane is more" steady"

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But slayer have an opener and burst phase that i enjoy a lot more

olive wraith
full sail
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hey, playing fury for funsies atm, just noticed in aoe sims, whirlwind buff is lasting for 5 spells?

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i get that it takes the whirlwind stack away at end of rampage, is there enough time to get the it off in time for it to apply to that last rampage?

uneven plaza
full sail
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ok on my question above, i did some dummy time and def found it to just be true that if you rampage on 4, you can get an extra spell, cool to know, maybe i missed it but didnt see anything about it before.

polar narwhal
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It's because IWW isn't consumed until Rampage finishes its animation

full sail
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yeah im aware, just didnt realize it actually could cheat in an extra spell

polar narwhal
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Unsure if it actually counts IWW for the next ability though

full sail
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i did confirm using execute as a fifth ability

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that it cleaved

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tracking through deepwounds

undone flower
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i just tried myself

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i rampaged at 1 stack and hit rb

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@edgy widget sorry for the ping, idk if it is a known bug

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It made me think about this one where reap procs from execute without sudden death but I highly suspect server proc sd->instant consume the proc
#fury message

edgy widget
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It is, happens with high haste sometimes

fleet yarrow
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Puzzlebox feels so weird

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because it either aligns perfectly with my cd's and life is great

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or my bladestorm/reck come up 20 seconds before its cd is up

dusk harbor
lusty jungle
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But if she's hot its a great thing

potent ocean
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Do you need to apply Rend by yourself in Fury Slayer spec or does something apply it.. Im very confused with the rotation for Slayer right now and trying to figure it out somehow

potent ocean
eternal nebula
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is anyone else just sitting on 10 myth crests? idk if i've missed any source of uncapped crests. done cracked keystone+delve boss

scenic sun
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Sounds right

eternal nebula
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alright ty

scenic sun
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My hunter is capped and currently sitting on 10

eternal nebula
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yh, guess it will disappear with the crest save achi

scenic sun
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?? Gave one time 30

chilly plume
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^

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you'll be able to spend those 10 once you get myth achievement

clear haven
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what do you thinkgs works better? puzzlebox mythic or the vorasius trinket on hc?

hoary rapids
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Does imp ww make bloodbath apply on secondary targets? Or only mitigates dmg?

scenic gulch
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BRUH why is my combat text so delayed? Its messing with my head

clear haven
fiery edge
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@dense elbow tried ur opener, shit was pumped

olive wraith
scarlet swift
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Every class pumps aoe, might as well go st spec to make bosses faster

acoustic brook
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guys im confused. do we prio bloodbath below 35%? in aoe situations i just stomp to get aoe off, then prio 100 rampage

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i.e. should you switch to below 35% targets in packs to get big value of out bloodbath

sour frigate
fiery edge
acoustic brook
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say for example you're doing aoe, you get 3 bloodbath procs and theres a 15% mob and you have cleave up

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i usually send it critting for 150k each

scarlet swift
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Can any chads link me the new slayer fury prio? Iโ€™m on mobile and itโ€™s abysmal

ornate torrent
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Heya, was hoping there was an awesome fury warrior out there that could give me pointers on improving my DPS. I am having some issues improving numbers this season

upbeat creek
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what kind of mantra, ritual, or false god worship do you guys use to fish for SD procs on lust pulls

spring needle
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Are the builds in dps-faq updated and reliable to use?

deep hatch
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hi all, i am getting results in simc that Light Company Guidon is much more superior than Heart of the Ancient Hunger for M+ (dungeon slice) content. Has anyone tried it out? it says its 2k dps upgrade for me (167k to 169k dps)

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both ilvl289

upbeat creek
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just sim 5t 5min patchwork dungeon slice isnt supported

deep hatch
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like so ?

upbeat creek
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ya, i usually just do 1t 5 min and 5t 5 min

deep hatch
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ok here it shows its not as good at all! ok so dungeonslice isnt supported

remote bobcat
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And since dungeons dont last 5mins or whatever setting you used..well you get the idea

deep hatch
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So i should set the duration on dungeon slice to actually 25-30min then?

past pivot
spring needle
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Does anyone else find fury to be quite difficult to focus on mechanics since it has such a high apm? Thinking of swapping to arms

junior oyster
queen sage
glossy schooner
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Opposite for me, there's not many buttons. Arms is too many buttons IMO

fleet yarrow
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Ye slayer is high apm but its also simple

junior oyster
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Yeah, fury may feel faster, but there are fewer decision points I feel

wary smelt
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how can i find the slayer talents for this build? im not seeing it on Archon

dusky cipher
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So my dummy tests with arms are almost exactly what Sims give me.
My fury however is way higher damage than Sims say.
Has anyone else found this to be the case?

sullen dove
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r u using more consumables for fury

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and also matching the same time length

dusky cipher
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No exact same setup

sullen dove
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like fighting for 5 minutes if you sim for 5 minutes

dusky cipher
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Exactly the same just changing the spec

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Sims are like 3/4 of the DPS I do in game

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On fury

sullen dove
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yea i mean its possible to do a bit better than sim since sim is sort of an average listing of all the rng possible with your spec

warm crag
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n=1

sullen dove
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like you could have gotten more sudden deaths in game than sim says you got and it let you get more bladestorm cdr and maybe you send 1 more bladestorm or something than the sim + all the extra execute/reap dmg

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but yea i dont think its that unreasonable to sometimes do like up to 10 maybe 15% more than your sim randomly

bitter palm
dusky cipher
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I'm using thane, has very little rng

sullen dove
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crit rng on all the best abilities xeos

past hazel
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I want to play Slayer so bad, im so bored of Thane man

sullen dove
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then play it

warm crag
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play slayer then

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bird therapist picture

past hazel
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I dont like the CD line up shit

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๐Ÿ™

warm crag
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this you

past hazel
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it feels so off

sullen dove
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ya i mean kinda annoying but u kinda fully ignore it on aoe anyway i think

dusky cipher
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It's consistently 25% less on SIM. I never trusted the SIM always seems kinda off

sudden tusk
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You just hold bladestorm that's it

warm crag
inner zinc
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Alnseer trinket says "Multiple applications may overlap". What part is that referring to? The stacking str buff or the buff that grants str buffs?

past hazel
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pretty sure the str will add on to each other

sullen dove
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also to be sure it is on a equal level dummy right

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tho if it wasnt arms would also pul ahead i think

bitter palm
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prolly not

sullen dove
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but idk could be playing arms bad maybe? if thats the case

inner zinc
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yeah i figured that part out, was mainly wondering if it also applied to the buff that grants you the str

sullen dove
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doubt that happens

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it might refresh

dusky cipher
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Really weird

sullen dove
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but u still prolly wont get more than 10-12 stacks of strength before they start falling off

dusky cipher
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Seems that the bot isn't always right

sullen dove
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i mean arms in fury gear is not ideal

bitter palm
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it is

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if u know what ure doing

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log ur dummy and send ur sim

warm crag
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target count, length, which target dummies

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are you fighting target dummies that go into an execute range that you bt execute for longer than the sim is aware of

dusky cipher
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It doesn't matter. It's the exact same test just switching spec. And one is 100% accurate other is miles off

radiant plank
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Fury is more rng

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gg

dusky cipher
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I can do single target or multi target always the same

inner zinc
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its pretty funny the amount of overlapping buff mechanics we have. Frenzy, Apex, Executionner and now Gaze of Alnseer keks

sullen dove
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you can just be playing arms shit and the circumstances lets you do more dmg as fury

warm crag
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you are critically unaware of what you are talking about when you say it doesn't matter to me asking you for a sample size of your tests

sullen dove
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anythin possible

dusky cipher
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So basically the bot is complete horde shit

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Horse*

sullen dove
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yep

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w takeaway

bitter palm
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w

warm crag
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answer my questions instead of blaming literally anything else you fool

bitter palm
radiant plank
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Could never be

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that you just dont kno

radiant plank
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how to use the bot

warm crag
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i guarantee the sample size is literally 2

smoky vale
bitter palm
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n=1 sim

sullen dove
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what is "xqc updates" server

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this zhai guy

dusky cipher
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Lol

sullen dove
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suck dn

covert blaze
warm crag
dusky cipher
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I've done it 5 times on each multi target and single

warm crag
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n=5

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lmfao

covert blaze
smoky vale
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need n=10000

bitter palm
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wiping in no failer only exp chim pugs

sullen dove
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why is there no traffic cone emote

bitter palm
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had a r1 without china lined up

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but wiped to 2nd p1

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????????

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how do u wipe in 2nd p1 man

warm crag
sullen dove
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kick add innit

bitter palm
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they kicked it

smoky vale
bitter palm
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they died to rot or something

smoky vale
bitter palm
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ig healer didnt go down?

warm crag
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@past hazel just ask me here

sullen dove
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just live me thinks

smoky vale
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spongie can i ask you in dms

spring needle
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Are the builds in the dps faq section updated?

radiant plank
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They are out of date so wowhead gets more traffic /s

warm crag
bitter palm
radiant plank
sullen dove
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last edit was april but dont think theres really been any significant talent changes

bitter palm
sullen dove
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maybe an arms m+ build might be slightly different but everything else should be similar enough, but would also just check wowhead yea

bitter palm
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biggest invention since writing

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on god

sullen dove
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ngl

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just play fury

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if you doin allat

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no?

radiant plank
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fury for zdps gameplay

bitter palm
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slarms mogs fury

radiant plank
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fall asleep

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padd on piss

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gg

sullen dove
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yeah....

bitter palm
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i tried alg 20 with aug and demo locK

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as thane

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first pull

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vile lasher 0 dmg

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fuck fury

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next try slarms it evaporated

sullen dove
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i mean what

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rend and bladestorm

radiant plank
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Prio damage king vs pad baby

sullen dove
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and some cleave maybe

bitter palm
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arms owns fury on prio dmg

sullen dove
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muh prio damage

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(2 targets instead of 5)

radiant plank
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1 target

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wallahi

sullen dove
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walluh

bitter palm
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i did more damage to lashers as thane tho

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and tank exploded

sullen dove
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maybe tank get real?

bitter palm
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real

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ticking for 80% of his hp

smoky vale
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monks flopping whats new

bitter palm
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cause big lasher isnt dead

smoky vale
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hey @sullen dove where is your bear

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๐Ÿป

bitter palm
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hey @sullen dove where is your bear

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๐Ÿป

sullen dove
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why am i being @'d by these creatures

smoky vale
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silence swine

covert blaze
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@sullen dove 10s on rats when

sullen dove
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who is the rat in this scenario

smoky vale
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are you ready to play honksai schomnc rail

smoky vale
bitter palm
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what did i do gio

sullen dove
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literally all of my characters are more geared than your main

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why are you speaking

covert blaze
bitter palm
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u broke my heart gio

sullen dove
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-80 crests crafting an item in a slot you max upgraded a myth track in

smoky vale
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que hice

smoky vale
smoky vale
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you dont get it

bitter palm
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and send pit again

smoky vale
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type shit

sullen dove
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cant wait to start seat bonus roll journey...

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oh boy... 10 item loot pool...

bitter palm
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ok ๐Ÿฅ„

sullen dove
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need glove and belt

bitter palm
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bonus roll windrunner

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for gloves

smoky vale
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bonus roll lura man

sullen dove
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tf do i give a shit about lura

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neck only cool thing

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everyone creamin over the ring and weapon that are useless as sht

smoky vale
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big 2h neck ring

sullen dove
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no one needs allat haste

smoky vale
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me when neck is mastery

warm crag
bitter palm
sullen dove
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that is why i said neck only cool thing

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if we read the messages being typed

bitter palm
smoky vale
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ring is good

sullen dove
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no

smoky vale
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also requires paladinss ring though

bitter palm
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fury talk ๐Ÿ’ค

sullen dove
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mickey mouse equip a horrendously statted ring just for +1 socket

bitter palm
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fake spec

smoky vale
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how is it horribly statted

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i did the sim bro

sullen dove
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cuz who the hell needs 300 haste

bitter palm
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slayer

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gotta do 10000 16 mil top gears

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to make it sim .4% better

sullen dove
#

true!

smoky vale
#

ring and ring cancel out

sullen dove
#

nexus 2set like as good as whatever bis thing uses that ring

#

pointless

smoky vale
#

weapon and neck cancel

bitter palm
#

not in aoe!

sullen dove
#

0.1% better poggers

smoky vale
#

and then you just have to deal with 200 haste

#

which you can full gem and enchant mastery

bitter palm
#

gio come eu boost my rats

smoky vale
#

yeah let me level

#

gear

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and boost

bitter palm
#

this... is... heartbreaking...

smoky vale
#

bro why is my summer semester starting tomorrow

#

gg

bitter palm
#

summer starts tomorrow i think

sullen dove
#

nope!

#

officially starts june 21!

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explode otherwise!

#

summer solstice!

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or something!

bitter palm
#

june 57

smoky vale
#

imma start pecaony soon

#

tm

covert blaze
balmy shore
smoky vale
#

happy early birfday

sullen dove
#

bday on longest day of the year kind of cool!

sullen dove
#

surely easily swipe a 2star or something

smoky vale
#

bro that shit is not gonna happen

sullen dove
#

or possibly 3

#

bro fym

smoky vale
#

do i put

sullen dove
#

you got a non standard dps

smoky vale
#

acheron welt gallagher pela/x

sullen dove
#

still prolly need to level pela somewhat

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yea

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doesnt have to be gall

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if ur healing sucks

#

but w/e

smoky vale
#

i mean hes debuff no?

sullen dove
#

yea but only like 1 every 5 years

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i think

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whenever he ults

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1 point for acher kinda whatever

smoky vale
#

still better than the other healers surely

#

snd then can play double healer castorice

sullen dove
#

you get like 2/9ths of an acheron ult with him maybe the entire time

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if u want to sure w/e

#

but just lvl pela a bit she doesnt rly need anything other than effect hit rate chest and speed boots probably

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and the trace that shreds defense should be maxed i think its her ult rest probably doesnt matter

smoky vale
#

bro i dont got that much gear

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its so cooked

sullen dove
#

u got to have 1 singular piece of EHR

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u got like 30 chests

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speed boot maybe more contentious and sure if u dont

smoky vale
#

i need the relic event for every 5*

sullen dove
#

but u prolly also do theres only 4 main stats on boots

smoky vale
#

surely i got hella resin

#

but i think i gotta send on bailu

uneven path
#

@vestal root have you tried the RB build yet ?

sullen dove
#

level her actual character level and like 1-2 healing traces maybe sure but casto team does not really need help rn other team needs to do damage

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and wont without a somewhat decent pela probably

vestal root
smoky vale
#

also prob need to level natsha sadly

sullen dove
#

same as bailu

uneven path
sullen dove
#

fury channel xeos

noble notch
#

woooops

warm crag
warm crag
#

did you record this?

bitter palm
#

yes

bitter palm
calm aurora
#

hi, and sorry for the dump question, but i think i have a problem with fury on single taget....my dmg is not so good but i think i use the "right" build and rotation....what is your rotation on single taget? - thx

sly merlin
#

bloodbath

fading sky
#

Execute

lean moat
#

Hello , quick question for AOE burst , do Odyn fury Cds Rampage thunder blast rampage thunder blast ect or do the full rotation ?

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feel like i heard to spam thunder blast when over 6 targets

calm aurora
#

oh thx, but on multi taget i have no problems.... it just single target

past pivot
#

Our ST is weak. Check out the rotation prio article on wowhead

modest condor
#

wowhead really pulled out all the ragebait articles didnt it

lean moat
#

was asking cause i feel i could do more dps in aoe ..

brittle crow
fading sky
sullen dove
modest condor
#

next article is gonna be something like "should lust go back to being only available to shamans" or something

sullen dove
#

cinema

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"should housing be tied to player power"

bitter palm
#

yesa

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it should

sullen dove
#

revolutionary article

modest condor
sullen dove
#

oh boy 365 comments i wonder what they all say

radiant plank
modest condor
#

yeah

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"guys does the game need less content?"

radiant plank
#

:toobased

sullen dove
radiant plank
#

Could give us

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some player power shit

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to grind

#

like

#

AP

sullen dove
#

yea i mean that would be cringe and annoying for a 3rd time but ppl would definitely do it

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break glass in case of emergency ahh player engagement system

modest condor
#

there's no way they will go back to that kind of system after shadowlands

sullen dove
#

bfa was the last artifact grindy mech no

radiant plank
#

yeah

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SL was just

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bs rng

sullen dove
#

only like shards of dom were particularly bad i think

#

rest was just like... almost same as now no

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just get gear from doing shit

#

legendaries a little annoying but not the end of the world

#

the like 1% of power u could get from rep ppl were crying about but like

modest condor
#

you had to do weekly stuff to progress soulbinds

sullen dove
#

just dont farm treasures 5 hours a day on korthia

#

yea maybe like world quests or somethin u mean? idr exactly

radiant plank
#

hows the 0.7

#

borrowed power system

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i heard its cringe

sullen dove
#

idk just looked like some voidstorm tree no

radiant plank
#

u gotta go back and forth

sullen dove
#

and just works everywhere

radiant plank
#

to toggle aoe/st proc

sullen dove
#

o yea idk might be annoying

radiant plank
#

and then its just 2ndaries

sullen dove
#

surely they change that

#

with it still being ptr and all

radiant plank
#

cluegi

covert blaze
hybrid cargo
# modest condor

Idk what the data is like but id bet theres a sizeable chunk of those engaging in player housing that would not be playing otherwise

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But they would know better than I if thats true

covert blaze
#

@sullen dove l'ura kill when

spare lion
#

yo, what talent are people swapping out to take enraged regen for higher keys? My initial thought was massacre but after the execute buffs the st goes kinda crazy with massacre now - currently running these talents

frank dawn
#

as thane you still drop massacre

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execute is good, massacre not so much

spare lion
#

really? what would you take instead?

frank dawn
#

you get ER

#

that was your question right lol

spare lion
#

oh i see what you meant now

#

i thought you meant drop it for another dps talent

#

aight ty anyway

sullen dove
sudden tusk
#

Thursday if smish

sullen dove
#

Gonna reset tmrw

#

can surely maybe 2-3star floor 1 and maybe do lil gaming floor 2 if ur chars are lvl 70 n stuff

sudden tusk
#

Clara should be 70 tn

sullen dove
#

massive

inner zinc
#

What do I drop for Ruinous rampage on slayer?

sudden tusk
#

Nothing

#

Talent sucks

#

Unless you want to have 2 rampage buttons one with a cancel aura in it

modest condor
#

(it's still shit then)

unkempt oasis
#

The real question is when are we getting a Microsoft Paint tutorial Madox? Hoarding all the knowledge....

sudden tusk
#

Lmao

#

Need to think of a new video idea. Playing too much weeb game I'm washed

covert blaze
graceful rain
#

Does anyone have fury thane build or is it on wowhead?

cold leaf
#

I have a question: I've been a fury main since DF and I've never swapped off Beserkers Stance, but I've seen the higher level parsers are in Defensive stance. Is it worth to switch for the DR?

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For context ive been running 18s+

cerulean badger
#

yes

cold leaf
#

Followup Q: Is there a world where im Stance Dancing? lmao

cerulean badger
#

especially if there are big predictable hits or some nasty debuffs on you it can make a difference between living and dying, and you lose almost no dmg from switching for a couple of seconds

errant sentinel
#

if you value your life over your honor

modest condor
#

defensive stance is a defensive

#

stance dancing as it was in earlier expansions doesnt exist anymore

cerulean badger
#

but make sure to download some addon or something that screams at you if you are in defensive

cold leaf
#

I always play for mechanic/survivability over dps because I grew up a healer main (back in Cata/MoP)

#

For those who swap in combat, what keybinds do you use for stance switching?

cerulean badger
#

mousewheel

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down is def stance up is bers stance

modest condor
#

alt w

cold leaf
#

Thanks all!

bitter palm
#

X

cold leaf
#

How do yall feel about slayer with all the execute buffs as of late?

#

it feels pretty good in the 17s i ran

#

and its single target is much better

#

but it feels a bit proc centered

olive wraith
#

Currently it does rely on sd/reap to do good aoe

tight brook
#

it feels so much more rewarding when it pops though

cold leaf
#

Yeah, BS feels a lot better to press than Avatar (for mt)

olive wraith
#

Idk if Iโ€™d agree

stoic loom
#

a fully buffed bladestorm sure

olive wraith
#

Avatar is a much better cooldown atm

stoic loom
#

but not otherwise

#

avatar resetting thunder clap and giving a TB feels v nice

cold leaf
#

I like how Ava/Reck line up identically

stoic loom
tight brook
#

I can't disagree with that

stoic loom
#

i did just 1 tap skyreach 19 as slayer tho felt good

modest condor
#

avatar feels super impactful on aoe with how much it buffs thunderclap

stoic loom
#

over 100k on single target bosses is a happy moment

tight brook
#

the lack of sync with bs/reck is a bit awkward

stoic loom
#

but back to thane i go

cold leaf
olive wraith
#

I mean you can keep playing slayer

stoic loom
olive wraith
#

Just need people that do more aoe

stoic loom
#

just wanted to give slayer a try

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and it was ok, i'll prob play it occasionally and in specific keys

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but thane feels so smooth

cold leaf
#

A reoccuring problem I run into is the first lust pull of most dungeons, Unholy is pulling 600k and im barely 300k, I dont have Gaze but I do have hero Puzzlebox/Heart. Is that just cause aoe cap or skill issue?

modest condor
#

skill issue in the sense that fury's skills dont allow you to do more keks

cold leaf
#

lmaooo

indigo arch
#

Warrior moment

stoic loom
#

but ye u'll prob finish that pull between 300-400k

bitter palm
#

cant compete with a spec thats fully uncapped

stoic rampart
#

Itโ€™s okay though blizzard swears they made the right decision in shadowlands

stoic loom
#

my only problem with being capped is that we're not even the 3-5 target goats

fringe linden
#

The screeching UHDK's make when they get any kind of nerf makes you think they don't/haven't topped the bars since release.

cold leaf
#

Which flask yall take? Lately been doing Blood Knights cause all my gear is mast heavy

fringe linden
#

UHDK was hilarious during Lemix.

fringe linden
olive wraith
#

Give us hard cap of 5 again

stoic rampart
cold leaf
#

Oh yeah I forgot sim exists, I'll try it with my gear thanks

unique summit
#

when i sim anything in slayer higher than 2 targets it stops using raging blow and just uses ww. is this correct? raging blow only on st?

fleet yarrow
#

Reap the storm procs, does your trinkets immediately stack during the quick bursty window

fringe linden
stoic loom
fleet yarrow
#

But 300k is defintely consistent

fleet yarrow
neat gazelle
#

I agree with @stoic loom . Been playing both recently. Thane just feels much more smooth and consistent. Also, being so much more tankier is a nice plus

thorn hearth
fleet yarrow
#

Yeah thats the fun part

thorn hearth
#

the fun part is that i get more procs in one boss fight than in the rest of the dungeon

#

also they should make RTS apply rend

undone flower
#

And remove it from ww ?

#

I donโ€™t have this vision sorry

olive wraith
#

They should do something with bleeds

fickle stirrup
undone flower
#

Wait when you hear about execute

fickle stirrup
tulip sorrel
#

Hey guys, iโ€™ll main warrior for next season and it will be my 1st time on warrior. I know racials are small bonuses yet there are some big racials that can matter.

Im considering either creating a dwarf for the cleanse or highmountain for the knock down + mobility.

Which one would you suggest? Or do you have any other recommendations?

opaque mortar
#

Dwarf is nice if you plan to tank.
However if you aren't playing a tauren/highmountain smdh

thorn hearth
tawny wing
#

Whichever horde looks best in plate of course. Not sure what that is though

thorn hearth
#

vulpera

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looks the best in palte

gentle badge
#

anyone who isnt blessed with a gaze trinket try vessel of tortured souls from MC?

tulip sorrel
#

I dont care much about mog

tawny wing
#

Playing 1st person I see. Brave

tulip sorrel
#

And as bloodmallet says dps difference is not huge on either of the specs

opaque mortar
#

Real though I do use highmountain charge occasionally for mobility when leap is on cd. The extra stop is nice too

gentle badge
#

its just the blue collar form of gaze and id rather use that than puzzle box lol

gentle badge
tulip sorrel
gentle badge
#

bladestorm doesnt clear any of those things lol

tulip sorrel
#

Im new to warrior sorry

thorn hearth
#

it clear movement thingys

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warrior doesnt remove anything really

#

thats all the healers job

tulip sorrel
#

Yet I watched some guides. Do we use fearless?

thorn hearth
#

yeah but thats like not in any dungeons or raids

olive wraith
gentle badge
thorn hearth
#

where?

olive wraith
#

Void elf I think typically sims the highest until human overtakes it

thorn hearth
#

ive never been feared in m+

opaque mortar
#

Warrior is fears, some stuns and roots. Baldestorm is some of the same
Reflect can prevent some from being applied

gentle badge
#

pit of saron, npx

#

what

thorn hearth
#

yeah velf has highest dps potential

#

where is npx

gentle badge
#

re read fearless talent homie lol

#

npx is nexus point

thorn hearth
#

i meant where in

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i just ran that and didnt get feared once

gentle badge
#

the dots that slow you, left side wnig

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wing*

tulip sorrel
gentle badge
#

dog

thorn hearth
#

oh

gentle badge
#

please stop saying you didnt get efared

thorn hearth
#

i didnt know that remogved those

gentle badge
#

re read fearless lol

thorn hearth
#

i didnt read the bottom text

summer quail
thorn hearth
#

that makes a lot more sence

modest condor
#

yeah but guys you dont get feared

gentle badge
#

nvm here is why its good "removes all movement speed-impairing effects" anything with a dot that also slows you, fearless removes

gentle badge
tulip sorrel
#

One more question. Do you think warrior is slow in m+ as dps?

summer quail
#

wdym slow

tulip sorrel
#

Slow on movement

summer quail
#

no

gentle badge
#

if you cant charge/intervene to anything then yes, but during combat, no

#

like between packs

thorn hearth
#

plenty of mobility

tulip sorrel
#

Dwarf it is then i like utility

#

I really dont like depending on others

summer quail
#

if you're going for m+ stuff it's always dwarf or nelf for race. which one is better depends on season

thorn hearth
#

or vulpera

#

it is still viable

tulip sorrel
#

I can immune fears and also poisons dots bleeds anything

thorn hearth
#

it just doees the ;east damage out of any race

tulip sorrel
#
  • fearless if its good
#

Mwah

#

Thanks for the help ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

tulip sorrel
summer quail
#

yea

tulip sorrel
#

It might be surprising but i never mained nelf ๐Ÿ˜‚ whats up with shadowmeld? Isnt it just for going out of combat?

thorn hearth
#

wait were the stats for fury always mast>haste>vers>crit

#

i thought it was mast hast crit

summer quail
#

meld good

gentle badge
tulip sorrel
#

Oooooh right makes sense

#

Can you meld for a dot bleed etc

#

Once its applied I mean

#

To remove it basicly?

summer quail
#

no

tulip sorrel
#

Oh going to is the key part ok gotcha

#

Again thanks a lot ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

twin glacier
#

in cooldown manger there is the option to play sounds, when you get a buff.

Is there the old cha-ching sound from suddendeath proc from last seasons?

last lichen
#

Someone here suggested doing a sim with 8target for 1min and 1target for 4min, in replacement of dungeon slice. How do you do that fight style sim?

#

I suppose 2 seperate sims is good enough to give me direction

wary radish
#

sooo, is slayer fury really better than arms like it says in the sims? Have seen lots of slayer arms cooking but not much slayer fury?

fleet yarrow
#

Think a big part of learning atm is I got my rotations down

#

But I sometimes misjudge when to pop my cd's

#

because Im not accurately judging our groups dmg vs how long it takes for my cd's to come back

#

for next pack

gentle badge
#

the people playing arms are prob playing it because all 4 specs are close enough that it doesnt matter what you play, they all good and bad at different things and historically arms has not been this good compared to fury

#

so its like why not play arms while you can

odd crater
#

Iโ€™m doing fine as Slayer Fury, itโ€™s good stuff

fleet yarrow
#

Fury slayer pog

gentle badge
#

im a fan of fury slayer myself

fleet yarrow
#

I just have to get use to the mental damage the 1st pulls do to me

odd crater
#

Iโ€™m pulling my weight and then some in both M+ and M+ Raids

odd crater
fleet yarrow
#

But the starting pull when you have perfect rotations, cd's are great, ur reap is perma proccing

#

and seeing your still 200k underneath 2nd place and the tank is keeping up with me

#

but then every pull after Im 1st/2nd place in dmg

odd crater
#

Just accept that others are blowing their entire loads on first pull, while we keep reloading and blowing throughout the dungeon

#

And as a result we do more

#

Ez pz

fleet yarrow
#

Yup

#

Thats the neat part

#

Like, yeah im only at 300-350k

#

but Im keeping up that 250-300k into the next pack

#

whilst everyone else cd's are gone

#

and then the next, and the next

odd crater
#

Luckily dungeons arenโ€™t just one single pull, and as such we are fine

#

Also if you really wanna push, pop premium consumables

fleet yarrow
#

It does still hurt my soul when blade + reck are up and my box has like 10 sec cd

odd crater
#

Another reason I donโ€™t run box

fleet yarrow
hot shell
#

I think i had Box in my vault atleast 4 times now.
Never picked it. Yuck.

fleet yarrow
#

It does make certain pulls just feel guaranteed

odd crater
#

I never used it, so I donโ€™t know what Iโ€™m missing

wary radish
odd crater
#

Iโ€™ll keep rocking my Myth HoW and Feather until I get Gaze

wary radish
#

first pull is ??

fleet yarrow
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

odd crater
#

Pugged Myth?

fleet yarrow
#

guild Im trialing

odd crater
#

Nice

fleet yarrow
#

If im doing a 18 and im top dmg on that 1st pull its doomed

#

Like the 18windspire that bricked earlier
I did 321k on 1st pull, the ret pally did 200k

#

It was doomed

rotund ginkgo
#

How the fuck do either of u do below 400 on a 18

modest condor
#

lol i didnt even realise resonant voice also affects battle shout

rotund ginkgo
#

Hi sil:3

fleet yarrow
#

And how Long it lasts

#

Im also sometimes tanking my dps a bit trying to pull out defensives + using wrecking throws for the silences

#

Im also bad

thorn hearth
#

elite thinking

red berry
#

even going 18-19s youโ€™ll run into people who might do less then you as a fury warrior and I donโ€™t think thatโ€™s necessarily indicative of a failing; my 18 nexus was 6 minutes on the time with an aug and I did, what, 201k? and barely beat out the DK. that doesnโ€™t mean theyโ€™re bad

fleet yarrow
#

Where the aug is meant to be doing no dmg

red berry
#

well yeah

hybrid cargo
#

Dk pet damage isn't reported on meters

#

Lesser ghoul specifically

red berry
#

thatโ€™d do it

fleet yarrow
#

Thing is though, fury dmg is basically non existent really after 5 targets, the dmg drop off is absurdf

#

So if Im keeping up on a rogue with 10 targets

#

On the lust pull

#

Thats VERY bad

red berry
#

idk my barometer and expectations are not that high in pugs because thatโ€™s been the majority of my experience

fleet yarrow
#

but even with 2 deaths (that get insta combat ressed so no real dps drop), the times are quite strict

#

So if im top dmg in a high key, that aint good news

#

and typically means our dmg is indeed lacking, because my own damage isn't even impressing me

dim spindle
#

With our damage profile being what it is I just keep the meter on overall to try to keep my mental in check

dim spindle
#

Expect to be behind the first few mins, then it's smooth sailing

fleet yarrow
#

As Said earlier
Past that 1st pull, we gucci

#

But that 1st pull is just always so humbling

dim spindle
#

And gosh these buffs feel a lot stronger than what's on paper

fleet yarrow
dim spindle
#

Could jsut be the easy mythic gear raining from the heavens too

visual vale
#

all of that sounds really depressing, game supposed to bring joy, not frustration.
well, in theory...

dim spindle
visual vale
#

i do like warrior gameplay...

#

thane is very appealing, i like claps

dim spindle
#

I stuck with thane this whole time and now I'm glad I did is all I'm saying

visual vale
#

but yeah, im not the best dps in my static, for sure

dim spindle
#

Don't raid so no depression from that

fleet yarrow
#

Slayer does feel good tho

#

go zug zug

#

Had a pull today on windspire where reap procs did 20% of dmg

dim spindle
#

Even aff seems to be risen from the dead in m+... my baby aff is 255 ilvl and already hitting 110-120k overall

#

With junkass trinkets and heroic weapon

#

But like with fury... ST is sad

red berry
#

aff deserves it

dim spindle
#

she's already about matching my warrior's aoe in first pull in AA but that shouldn't be too shocking I guess

#

Warrior should get curse of tongues. Yell at the casters, make them slower

#

Does any other class get a version of tongues? I feel like I've seen casts slowed before without a lock

visual vale
#

tbh i prefer fun gameplay and appealing aestethics more, than better perfomance amongst all classes.

#

but i do understand your point

dim spindle
#

oo that's right

bitter palm
#

warrior is capped

dim spindle
#

Haven't touched my poor rogue since wrath (maybe mop) besides half ass leveling almost to cap then switching back

bitter palm
#

even arms doesnt do good

#

on that pull

#

it does very good relevant damage that pull

#

cause big lasher is the only mob that matters

#

and arms is really good at killing prio

visual vale
#

i have dh aswell(i was m raiding it in legion before my long break until midnight) and i've tried devourer spec, and it feels clunky and depressing for me(constant frustration of chain pulls and meta state)

bitter palm
#

like if u want to do good damage that pull

#

u need to be fully uncapped

dim spindle
#

Excuse me, this is the fury channel mr. arms

bitter palm
#

soft cap to 5 is still too much

dim spindle
#

Don't harsh our vibes man

spring needle
#

what's generally considered the best keybinds for a core rotation in a high APM spec such as fury? I was thinking Q, E, R, F and then mouse wheel up and down. Thoughts?

visual vale
#

qerf is legit

compact knot
#

mouse wheel is typically only for shit that actually needs to be spammed

#

like heroic strike in classic

#

otherwise stay away from that

dim spindle
#

I've been using the first few numbers for too long to switch, though qerf does sound pretty good

bitter palm
#

(fps rot)

tight flax
#

Jump is very important to spam

visual vale
#

bind hamstring to mousewheel to fish for sword spec procs...

#

oh wait, wrong timeline

dim spindle
tight flax
#

dwarf told me keep my feet on the ground, and that shit offended me so every button is jump now

visual vale
floral frigate
#

so thoughts almost have all the items from MT, will only need helm/ring I probalby can get head from raid where should I go use my roll tokens?

tight flax
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

dim spindle
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Kinda hard to answer

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er, droptimizer

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not top gear

floral frigate
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true true

quiet breach
compact knot
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@floral frigate if you are killing mythic paladins not a bad one

undone flower
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And pinky binds can be OOF

compact knot
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weapon is good, ring is good, tier helmet

floral frigate
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on dragons atm

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probalby will be dead tonight/next reset

dim spindle
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shift/ctrl

undone flower
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It would break my hands but thatโ€™s why I say it can be oof

quiet breach
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it all depends on what u consider are strong muscle memory keybinds. for me personally shift with my pinky has extremely strong muscle memory for me. so pinky keybinds is not necessarily garbage automatically

spring needle
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I'm still having a warrior identity crisis. Not sure if the high apm octane is for me. I assumed it would be since I love duel wielding frost dk but this is a different level of fast

worn yoke
dim spindle
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my hands are strong like ox. Until the joint diseases kick in

quiet breach
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for me the trash keybinds are the one I have to stretch my finger tbh

dim spindle
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Shoulders, though... ๐Ÿ™

bitter palm
dim spindle
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But those are because of work. Which is, indeed, da poop

undone flower
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Is powerful enrage a dmg loss ?

bitter palm
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ye

undone flower
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bc there is that option

bitter palm
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u dont get the enrage duration extension anymore

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which is xd

dim spindle
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I kinda miss powerful. Especially now that it has 3% leech

quiet breach
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V is a garbage muscle memory keybind for me, for example

dim spindle
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It was pretty solid end of s3, but we also had crazy haste

spring needle
quiet breach
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probably because I press it with my thumb, C is not great either

dim spindle
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v for shockwave for this guy

undone flower
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Easy bind

dim spindle
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it's a little awkward I guess but it takes a GCD so no big deal