Yeah it's a lot more fluid ig
#fury
still silo
this is probably why tbh
its just more convienient
its why thane feels nice because you never really run out of WW charges with constant clap spam
sand sand
do you guys save bladestorm for recklessness or just pop it when its up? or do u align it with odyns fury
winter shoal
new gio dropped
sullen dove
its over
sand sand
i been here bruh
winter shoal
do you guys save bladestorm for recklessness or just pop it when its up? or do u...
In single target you hold BS for up to 30s on reck (which is actually more like 15ish with AM cdr), in aoe it's 10s
You never hold OF to pair with cds
still silo
#deathtoodynsfury
cursive tiger
are there any known issues with the void damage ring set proc? cant see a single proc in Details over a raid night, just not recording it properly? cheers
sullen dove
lean moat
hello im new as warrior i'd like to up my parses and dps anything i could do better ? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/alakir/krave?zone=47&boss=12811
sullen dove
not that?
rotund ginkgo
Brodie sure u equipped both?
still silo
bro equipped omission of shite
cursive tiger
i'll do some digging, but at least now know its not some known thing, thanks
dim spindle
in game damage meter sure does have known issues if anything
still silo
check wow logs
see if the damage shows there
and you can also see what you were wearing
😉
dim spindle
My favorite recently was (I think) AA first pull and apparently all 3 of us dps did 80k
Was reset and all
still silo
HUGE
languid willow
I like odyns fury idk kinda glad it’s back
dim spindle
odyn's slightlyirritated
rotund ginkgo
Bro plays with internet explorer
dim spindle
Odyn's somewhatperturbed
It's actually not bad for thane atm, but we'll see what happens come season 2
It's no double OF whammer jammer that's for sure
still silo
guarenteed they put warrior back in the bin with another garbage tier set
dim spindle
Hey now, positive vibrations here ONLY
quiet geyser
It's actually not bad for thane atm, but we'll see what happens come season 2
for the love of god I hope we get a decent ST tier set next tier
still silo
you know blizz, we dont get strong until S3
quiet geyser
guarenteed they put warrior back in the bin with another garbage tier set
fury was very strong in s2 last exp
still silo
s3 also
olive wraith
fury was very strong in s2 last exp
Not keys
still silo
RB RB RB RB RB RMP RB RB RB RB RMP
dim spindle
Hey now we had to whirlwind, too
still silo
lel
dim spindle
And every once in a while if you got unlucky you had to hate-bloodthirst
dim spindle
But really only in ST
still silo
both slayer and thane is good, slayer feels better for fights like vorasius
olive wraith
still silo
thane still feels amazing on fallen king
hot shell
Imagine spending more time in raids than in keys
still silo
285 ilvl's needing on items and then selling them?
dim spindle
People still do it but I'm sure interest is waning even faster than usual
olive wraith
They kinda killed heroic raid with the modern loot distribution, ngl
Howso
still silo
sounds about right
quiet geyser
key main'ers need to get their mental checked. no offense @modest condor 🙂
dim spindle
Howso
heroic loot with the exception of a couple trinkets is outdated pretty damn fast
still silo
key main'ers need to get their mental checked. no offense <@105847932611231744> ...
its like playing league of legends, its an abusive relationship
olive wraith
Idk
hot shell
Raid is just sooo boring
dim spindle
I mean you can just spam m+ for BiS heroic gear (minus trinkies)
sullen dove
its never relevant past like the first month xd
dim spindle
Even then you just have to hit the lotto and get one of those trinkies from a weekly quest. Like me
still silo
they definitely made it too easy to gear
dim spindle
its never relevant past like the first month xd
For heroic raiders?
still silo
my guildy got a new character to 282ilvl in 1 week
stray bolt
We got lucky this season that our 2 trinkets are from early, easy raid bosses
vs. seasons like TWW S2 where House of Cards was deep in the raid
still silo
YOUR BEST TRINKET IS FROM DIMENSIUS, OH BTW ONCE YOU GET IT THERES NO POINT IN RADIING ANYMORE
dim spindle
Drawback of not even heroic raiding - I'm still using the damn crucible
stray bolt
Depends what people's goals are, if your goal for the season is to just get the best gear and then quit, yeah I guess so
dim spindle
But the rest of my gear is already maxed besides 1 or 2 off pieces
olive wraith
YOUR BEST TRINKET IS FROM DIMENSIUS, OH BTW ONCE YOU GET IT THERES NO POINT IN R...
Idk some people parse or boost
winter shoal
hello im new as warrior i'd like to up my parses and dps anything i could do bet...
It's extremely difficult to assess every possible thing you could be doing right or wrong, especially over the course of an entire dungeon. If you have specific questions about gear, talents, or rotation, those can be answered much more specifically
stray bolt
Yeah exactly, some people have goals of parsing, pushing M+, etc.
still silo
Idk some people parse or boost
ah yes the "pay for parses" parsers
olive wraith
Pay for parsing?
still silo
mr 4 PI's
olive wraith
Is that a thing
olive wraith
Doesn’t that invalidate the parse
dim spindle
Really? Oh man I'm in
stray bolt
Yeah, you can have a raid where they "princess" you and let you kill adds, ignore mechanics, etc.
still silo
if you look at top logs, guarenteed most of them had 4 PI's
dim spindle
That's genius
stray bolt
Yeah, and they'll feed you PIs, give you an aug with full time prescience, etc.
still silo
thats why logs are a bit of a joke
and why blizz wants to remove add damage from logs
dim spindle
Who would you ask for such a parse boost? Asking for a friend
modest condor
key main'ers need to get their mental checked. no offense <@105847932611231744> ...
imagine having to play on a schedule
dim spindle
I'll pay 100k for a March #1 parse
stray bolt
and take a fight like Chim for example, normally the adds will die by the time your bladestorm ends. But if you get a parse raid going, they may let you get a full rotation off on them instead
dim spindle
Not a typo. You read that right. ONE HUNDRED
stray bolt
you can even do even more degen things like go down twice in a row on Chim
still silo
pretty sure its a lot more expensive than 100k gold lol
still silo
why would 19 people run you for a parse and recieve 5k gold each
still silo
yeah itd be ridiculous cost like
quiet geyser
imagine having to play on a schedule
I like routine
dim spindle
I'm too old to swing a full time rl job and staying up late on weekdays to raid these days.
Wish I could 🙁
quiet geyser
oh it gets harder every year, trust me
dim spindle
I believe it. And every year feels like a month or 2
quiet geyser
have a 2 year old at home, run a business, and my wife is currently pregnant with the 2nd kid
sleep? what sleep?
dim spindle
But that might just be the overlords tinkering with the simulation that is our reality, not sure
still silo
i play 2 times a week, rest is child duties and work
2 raid nights will do me
start at 7 finish at 10 then its lights out im dead
charred flint
hm
what do i drop so i can have enraged regen again
having trouble staying alive during paladins
slim coral
Wrath and fury I believe
grim chasm
Massacre as thane, cruelty 1 pt as slayer
toxic jewel
is rampaging ruin worth taking?
woven valley
is rampaging ruin worth taking?
Only in heavy (I think 7 or 8 target) constant cleave
Otherwise you need a cancel macro to use it in mplus well
late copper
bitter palm
what do i drop so i can have enraged regen again
executioner's wrath
olive wraith
is rampaging ruin worth taking?
Nah
terse ether
executioner's wrath
it feels more valuable than massacre
bitter palm
idk thats what archi said
terse ether
aoe :https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2iNtGxjLEQAvzZPmhPKkrU
st : https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rTaZ5J4TNuksko1K5f7XHT
no massacre wins for aoe
itmakes sense, you deal more dmg with rampage 😄
bitter palm
ok but on st it feels horrible
undone flower
idk thats what archi said
To drop for bloodcraze
terse ether
wait what
undone flower
modest condor
massacre or cruelty
terse ether
so I was right
bitter palm
i trust him
terse ether
Cruelty ? 😮
unborn hearth
Is the TLDR for the changes that fury is better outside vanguard?
terse ether
that's pure dmg loss
undone flower
Yes taking ER is pure dmg loss
bitter palm
u dont play wrath and fury anyway?
modest condor
every talent you drop for ER is a damage loss ¯_(ツ)_/¯
bitter palm
0.2-0.3% within each other
modest condor
if you want to know the best one to drop just sim every option
bitter palm
this tree is so bad
azure flame
anyone know why berserker rage is not working on dread breath from myth dragons?
azure flame
it works, then like 3-5 seconds later im feared again
astral moss
Yeah. It drops the fear, but not the debuff
pearl sequoia
healer problem
azure flame
so its a longer debuff...maybe ill use it later if i dont get dispelled, thanks
pearl sequoia
well u should get ddispelled pretty quickly
silk holly
whats the play for mythic alleria? between arms/fury
charred flint
for paladins
do we try to hold
OF
for when all 3 grouped up
if its like 5 seconds till they get here
or just full send
neat gazelle
what are some good things bezerker rage can get us out of in keys
also any tech to get off those birds in pos? lol
tiny anchor
anyone bored and wanna do a quick log review? https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1501828076797952010
sullen dove
slows off subjugators in seat
i think nexus point ethereal guys work too
probably more
anything that is a slow and damage usually
west kraken
anyone sit on cds for adds on dragons or cd on cd? as thane*
prog for us, so learning time's :p
terse ether
anyone sit on cds for adds on dragons or cd on cd? as thane*
you need to hold cds for adds
so u start with OF and then > before orbs spawn
u press avatar + reck
and then when adds are kinda stacked
u OF
west kraken
❤️ jsut tried that last pull, felt juiced
past flax
anyone sit on cds for adds on dragons or cd on cd? as thane*
Depends, we have 2 Dev DH and 2 locks that are absolutely exploding the adds instantly …. There is one-two set of adds where the DK mass grips are down though, so I was definitely hold a sec for those specific packs
undone flower
It mostly depends on group comp yep
The worse your group are the better you can pad
past flax
Exactly
tired oxide
has anyone experienced SD sometimes didn't reduce bladestorm CD?
vast gorge
working on mythic dragons now, any tips?
random shadow
A random pull tonight I procced a 36 sec avatar <:purpleface:1115871627750682664...
O.o
tired oxide
working on mythic dragons now, any tips?
of and bladestorm on adds and pray for bladestorm CD to be alligned with adds spawning
stable crescent
Am I dumb? Do I have too much mastery? Halp
light tapir
You need about 15% more
wicked wind
Am I dumb? Do I have too much mastery? Halp
Is it profitable to go with more mastery and less speed?
stable crescent
That's what I'm wondering
wicked wind
You are a fury warrior, you need about 25% speed because you have to be enraged all the time
young swan
Am I dumb? Do I have too much mastery? Halp
i would advise not paying attention to your stat values and just simming your character when u get new pieces
they are largely inconsequential
stable crescent
Gotcha, Ill keep doing that. Appreciate the reply!
sullen dove
that is a wildly impressive amount of mastery tho
idk how u even get that
unless ig 3 of the most mastery heavy jewelry possible
like pvp/lura neck paladins ring and something else
but yea prolly want more haste at least and sim should presumably reflect that
fiery edge
that pants with full mastery?
sullen dove
oyea that too
fiery edge
my aaaah almost get killed by nightmare ghost
merry cradle
This is a message to all CHAD Fury warriors on here. I have a friend who is playing a fury warrior and she is having trouble parsing well during raid. Is there anyone here who might be able or willing to help?
west kraken
Am I dumb? Do I have too much mastery? Halp
idk. is it ever enough?
fiery edge
idk. is it ever enough?
Does the sim tell you to move some into crit 
west kraken
oh it does, i swapped out my Occlusion ring to push it up. lol
undone flower
G G
brittle crow
no i just died in the last 14%
brittle crow
dmg to voidorb
charred flint
dmg to voidorb
i did my part 8)
brittle crow
i did my part 8)
wtf how are u doing so much more than me
i know i missed a set but
i press avatar, i press clap odyns clap ramp clap ramp clap ramp
brittle crow
y
charred flint
charred flint
y
cause sims tell we to do that idk man im not a rocket scientist
its mostly cd timers tbh
brittle crow
its mostly cd timers tbh
idk what to do when there starts being more ads than cooldowns
like when it goes adds -> intermission -> adds
merry scaffold
Question for parsing on Chimaerus: should I be trying to pad by killing the adds as they waddle to the boss in the overworld?
I recently did 83 on him and while proud it was the first thing I could think of that I could boost my numbers since that's a lot of cleave
charred flint
Question for parsing on Chimaerus: should I be trying to pad by killing the adds...
i think it depends on which group you're in
brittle crow
use 2:50~ hold till 4:05~
i dont speak in clocks
undone flower
wtf how are u doing so much more than me
charred flint
but yeah obviously if you can hit multiple adds instead of a single boss
you're going to have more dps
brittle crow
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148898695696482305/1502132626121...
the kill took us a long ass time
7:27
undone flower
That’s fine
charred flint
i dont speak in clocks
use before intermission and hold till orb spawn
undone flower
It took me 7:35 this week (we had 1 debuff of not killing saladbar tho)
charred flint
never use your cds on intermission
merry scaffold
i think it depends on which group you're in
Ya that's what I figured, I also feel like it just also depends on the comp and how the raid handles it. Mine we would just ring if peace the second they spawn and range would nuke them before it touched boss
There is probably more I can fix too, that was just the one big leap
charred flint
honestly
this tier sucks
its just aoe fights
if you wanna parse
just look at lorrgs
brittle crow
i do!
charred flint
and remember when people press cds
brittle crow
:(
charred flint
im honestly not this good
charred flint
i mean playing 3 specs surely doesnt help you
brittle crow
im not, i play only fury
undone flower
I didn’t held CDs and I did 98
undone flower
I just hold OF
brittle crow
i also hold OF
merry scaffold
I need to learn to hold OF lol
undone flower
i need log review
I did as much orb dmg as you
brittle crow
i dont get it.......
undone flower
You can cut the log at your death
brittle crow
ads arent alive there
im pressing cds 10 sec before adds spawn
when adds are alive i am
charred flint
here you're not even using tb
brittle crow
ic
charred flint
Idk man
i dont remember the fight
but your CD usage seems super weird
you're not using on CD but you're not holding it either it seems
brittle crow
u have to press cds before adds spawn else u dont get them back in time for next adds
im using 10 sec before adds spawn whenever possible
which is what ur supposed to do according to lorrgs
charred flint
u have to press cds before adds spawn else u dont get them back in time for next...
idk i was at lorggs till we got buffed and i just pressed my shit whenever adds popped
Like
My kill was
brittle crow
when u press cds shouldnt matter nearly as much as just being in them as long as adds are alive, no?
charred flint
12 seconds shorter than yours
and i still pressed reck
2 times more than you
did
What you're doing doesnt make any sense
but i cant really speak properly cuz i havent watched it
brittle crow
2 times more than you
but im pressing them earlier than u apparently so wtf
charred flint
when u press cds shouldnt matter nearly as much as just being in them as long as...
you pressed 6 times and i did 8 lol
undone flower
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zvXqZkgfNG1LRAyF?fight=last&type=damage-don...
You rly do the same orb dmg as me but 20k less boss dmg and 11k less intermission dude
brittle crow
You rly do the same orb dmg as me but 20k less boss dmg and 11k less intermissio...
I DONT KNOW HOW
im always cleaving, im sticking to the intermission add
im not pressing cds in intermission unless adds are gonna spawn
undone flower
I think you are holding way too much
undone flower
I casted 2x more avatar/reck
charred flint
dude
you either pick one
or the other
you cant not hold and hold just enough
at the same time
or just full send it or full hold it
brittle crow
wtf am i doing then
charred flint
your timers are all wrong
charred flint
like i said
brittle crow
thats what lorrgs does
charred flint
i had a rank 14 last week
and i didnt
do the 10 second thing
i just held it
idk if something weird happened in my kill
neat gazelle
whats best raid build
charred flint
but i can't understand why would you hold it
charred flint
but then send for 10s
undone flower
whats best raid build
It depends on the boss
brittle crow
because then ur in ur cds during adds?
neat gazelle
@undone flower chim
charred flint
if u wait until adds spawn to pop, then u dont get them back for 2nd adds
Eh but most specs actually burst during pull so like second set of adds they kill faster cause their cd is back up?
Idk what can it be
undone flower
<@247128537994231808> chim
You can play both, thane is better currently
neat gazelle
this look right @undone flower
charred flint
this look right <@247128537994231808>
u can drop enraged regen for massacre but yeah pretty much
just look at wowhead, Raptor
or the guides in here
undone flower
this look right <@247128537994231808>
It does look good, you can pick the fear group dispel if you feel the vibe
bitter palm
ye er is like
bitter palm
mega useless on that fight
neat gazelle
what was the one where impending victory resets faster lol
bitter palm
i hate padding
just play arms and sit on boss
brittle crow
just play arms and sit on boss
im shit at arms, dont know why
couldnt figure that out either
charred flint
im shit at arms, dont know why
even the top log at lorgs
undone flower
Just play fury and shit on the boss
charred flint
they hold like you do
brittle crow
even the top log at lorgs
pressed it 7 sec before adds, yes
bitter palm
idk arms is 3 button on st
bitter palm
1 2 3 rota
charred flint
there's a cast you're missing
brittle crow
the 1 more cast would be when i died
?
so they're pressing when i do it looks like
either at adds or ~7 sec before
charred flint
also he is using at 30 and you're using at 24
charred flint
the 1 more cast would be when i died
no
you misssed the 5 minute cast
or you died and got bressed?
brittle crow
not that pull
brittle crow
also he is using at 30 and you're using at 24
shouldnt matter as long as ur in cds for the adds?? thats what i dont get
as long as ur getting all ur claps and odyns on the adds
the 6 sec shouldnt matter
it resyncs at next adds anyways
undone flower
Fruit I think the adds are not the major issue
charred flint
idk man i dont know how to put this nicely but there's tons of things i said about the log
and every answer is
it shouldnt matter
brittle crow
well ur saying things i dont understand! i'd like to understand
charred flint
I mean, you're missing a reck cast is pretty big
how the fuck shoudlnt that matter
undone flower
1 ? I don’t think so
brittle crow
i never said that wouldnt matter?
charred flint
he missed 2
brittle crow
i said the 6 sec shouldnt matter
bitter palm
man this padding shit
undone flower
Yeah it’s kinda cringe
brittle crow
well happys not padding and still parsing higher
so i obvi have other problems
that idk how to fix
"ur missing reck casts" ok why
bitter palm
idk mythic dragons
brittle crow
im not holding too terribly long ever
undone flower
Fruiter is just cucked by his group doing regular human orb dmg
brittle crow
u cant just say "ur missing casts fix it idiot"
undone flower
- he sacrifice everything to Mickeymouse the rest
brittle crow
idk why im missing casts
undone flower
How much you did ?
charred flint
idk why im missing casts
i mean its hard for us to tell you why you're missing casts, but for some reason during that kill you spend close to 2 minutes without pressing your major cd
undone flower
(Our CDs are 45 sec)
brittle crow
oh
worthy yarrow
is it worth crafting something?
brittle crow
stupid
charred flint
and then
you cast again
at 6:12
thats like almost 2 minutes without pressing your major cd
charred flint
But like i said, i full held for adds and i still had 2m ore casts than you
i dont know what the fuck you we're doing
maybe just didn pay attention to cd?
charred flint
but
isnt 4 minutes
like
after intermission?
why would you hold your cd till after intermission
undone flower
You still have room to learn I guess, gg for the kill still
charred flint
like a full add spawn?
brittle crow
but if i press cds on the add, then i dont have them up for the little adds, no? or would i
brittle crow
yea i didnt have cds for them
charred flint
but you're holding your reck till the next cd
charred flint
I think the whole 7 seconds doesnt matter is fucking your shit up
cause it adds up
but honestly i dont know
brittle crow
that should make it MORE likely that i have cds
because they should come back sooner
idk how holding them longer would make them line up better 😭
charred flint
that should make it MORE likely that i have cds
nope
Cause you're using it in a dead spot
like 7 seconds later you would still have reck for first add spawn after intermission
undone flower
I would need to check the log on my pc, bc if you do rotation wrong avatar/reck doesn’t have 45 sec cd
brittle crow
mine have 45 sec cd
charred flint
like
not a single log
from the top 50 ones
have cast Reck at 23
or 24 seconds
they all either full send, hold till 30, or hold till 37~
undone flower
they all either full send, hold till 30, or hold till 37~
Hold till 37 = they precasted it I bet
charred flint
the only like idk 4 people who have cast it att 24 seconds, still send a reckless more than you did
charred flint
Hold till 37 = they precasted it I bet
i didnt am i a silly head? LMAO
charred flint
u WONT have cds for 2nd adds
you dont need cds for 2nd adds you're bound to miss some
like you did the one after intermission
undone flower
i didnt am i a silly head? LMAO
Why don’t you precast it
charred flint
am i supposed to have a timer
hm yeah there's a timer from raider tools thats pretty good to keep a look at
undone flower
am i supposed to have a timer
You are supposed to know the fight (as you know it as fury warrior, you did enough pulls to correct everything etc), but yes you can use a timer or bigwigs
charred flint
also im tired and i dont want to look at all your log @brittle crow but i did more boss damage than you did also and im holding my shit for adds
charred flint
i think you not pressing TB cause ytou want to delay it for add spawn but pressing reck fucks your shit up
cause like
you press avatar and then you sit on double tb for 10 seconds
that shit doesnt make sense
brittle crow
i thought i stopped doing that tho
i tried to anyways
im prob overvaluing tb on adds tho
undone flower
Pressing RB>TB in AoE is a dmg loss (2 target is AoE)
charred flint
brittle crow
my thought process was tb a little bit and then build charges back up before adds spawn but
i see thats
wrong
cuz im losing lots of cleave
charred flint
this one was super fucking wierd
like you're not even keeping your cleave up
you missed 3 casts without WW buff
brittle crow
cuz i was overvaluing tb on adds
undone flower
You are undervaluing tb on boss I feel like
charred flint
rule number one of cleave fight
is dont miss gcds without whirlwind
and i looked a bit and you're missing some
undone flower
Yeah that’s true lol
brittle crow
another stance of it
if this was during the dragons phase no way i went that long without pressing ww
was that not vs an add
charred flint
this is literally 30 seconds in
idk man
its like what i told you before
i keep picking stuff you're doing wrong and you're like nah thats not me
charred flint
fucking skepta over here
brittle crow
cuz i was overvaluing tb on adds
like that prob is already solved
i know i shouldnt do it there
charred flint
This is 1 minute in
quasi fractal
guild cant lock in on lura 😢 had like 4 99 parses going into 10 percent
brittle crow
another stance of it
this wasnt before adds tho
i wanna know what was going on here
dense elbow
guild cant lock in on lura 😢 had like 4 99 parses going into 10 percent
When you do a 12, is when you get the kill
charred flint
this wasnt before adds tho
Before adds or after adds dude
its a cleave fight
and youre missing 5 gcd worth of cleave
quasi fractal
When you do a 12, is when you get the kill
if i do a 12 we arent killing
dense elbow
Trust
quasi fractal
ill make sure of that
brittle crow
its a cleave fight
not during intermission! thats why i asked if it was on the add!
dense elbow
I know the shorter guild ways
charred flint
not during intermission! thats why i asked if it was on the add!
This is my whirlwind uptime
quasi fractal
we have 11 and me and one other guy are like 10-20k above everyone else
quasi fractal
if either of us die wipe it up
charred flint
like you're missing 20% uptime
on it
and you still make excuses for it
just press thunderblast man
brittle crow
im not making excuses for shit! im asking for the timeline on a specific screenshot!
u dont press whirlwind vs the add if theres nothing to cleave
and u have other buttons to press
charred flint
the intermission isnt 50% of the fight
brittle crow
and we already solved the mystery of me not pressing tb before adds spawn like 15 minutes ago thats why i was asking
abt that 1 screenshot
undone flower
Intermission is at 2 min and 5 min
charred flint
I told you
that was 1 minute into the fight, Kasane
you did at 30 seconds
and you did it again at 1 minute
dense elbow
brittle crow
thank u
brittle crow
i just hate not knowing things
like yea i did obvious wrong stuff
but the cd timing at the start of the fight makes 0 sense to me
undone flower
Just send on cd and hold second OF 
charred flint
Dude
To be honest
Our cooldowns are so shit
It doesnt even matter
Just keep pressing your shit
Follow prio
And always keep ww buff
brittle crow
i shoulda switched to ddh
quasi fractal
i parsed like 96 on that and the only thing i did was hold odyns fury for the adds. I just sent everything else on cooldown.
if my cds lined up with adds awesome
if not whatever
charred flint
I want to figure out what to do with my of on paladins
brittle crow
i think im trying too hard.. i should try less
charred flint
If i hold till they all 3 gather or just send on cd
charred flint
i think im trying too hard.. i should try less
Thats trully the warrior way
undone flower
i parsed like 96 on that and the only thing i did was hold odyns fury for the ad...
Yeah it just depends on group being ahh or not, so let cdr decide
gleaming siren
Real
lucid ginkgo
anyone know what the damage increase was to slayer fury and if they are solid now?
charred flint
Its in the faq
Its like a 10% increase but after the fix to deep wound its like a 6% buff i think
lucid ginkgo
ty
neat gazelle
should puzzlebox be macroed into avatar and reck?
modest condor
no
modest condor
also no
you use it whenever it's up with cooldowns
you just dont macro it
because it has a cast time
neat gazelle
oh got it
edgy widget
If i hold till they all 3 gather or just send on cd
unless it's only a few seconds delay, send it on CD
timid tide
should puzzlebox be macroed into avatar and reck?
Actually I had it macroed like that and it's very convenient. I press the button and burst with Ava and Rec, and it starts casting the puzzle, but if I don't want it I just move.
I have the puzzle box on mythic but the robot says I should use the prism, even though it's on hero. So that's what I'm rocking
twin glacier
u guys know if you can leap last boss skyreach, when the bird takes you for a flight?
misty patrol
I think they fixed it
neat gazelle
Sweeet
misty patrol
For evoker at least with hover it doesn't work anymore
lapis breach
Gaze Way better
timid tide
I have hero gaze and prism, and mythic box. Sims says to drop the puzzle box
hot shell
If puzzlebox was the only trinket i had i wouldnt use it, thats how disgusting it is
timid tide
So, as Thane in m+, so I prioritize execute over BB? Coz in pressing it more often and BB had dropped significantly in my overall DPS but not sure that's correct, especially for st
haughty token
do we run double eye of the eagle
young swan
do we run double eye of the eagle
can just sim ur guy but yeah pretty sure its best
bleak topaz
can just sim ur guy but yeah pretty sure its best
Why is that as Fury? Sim never puts it up at all
young swan
odd, maybe ur just undergeared? it got its value doubled(?) in like 12.0.5 or somewhere around there
as for why, fury has a lot of natural crit thansk to reck
bleak topaz
as for why, fury has a lot of natural crit thansk to reck
Yeah thats what I was thinking too. Not undergeared I'd think, currently 280 ilvl. However, 28% haste, 40% mastery and 19% crit (rare numbers around what u see on murlok)
Had eyes on rings just for testing purposes some time 😂
bleak bluff
um does anyone know the cloak stats when catalyzed
young swan
Yeah thats what I was thinking too. Not undergeared I'd think, currently 280 ilv...
yeah who knows, not really worth looking in to the "why" for individual use cases, if its worse its worse, it'll pull ahead eventually tho
winter urchin
hey yall whats the prefered stat numbers rn for fury?
compact knot
hey yall whats the prefered stat numbers rn for fury?
there arent really preferred numbers, you mostly go haste mastery, simming your character tells you what you need
radiant plank
hey yall whats the prefered stat numbers rn for fury?
10/40/40/10
compact knot
isnt 0 vers just better
winter urchin
oh hell yeah
winter urchin
sitting at 12/28/48/3 so naturally im stupid as shit
compact knot
but simming is the best choice
bleak topaz
there arent really preferred numbers, you mostly go haste mastery, simming your ...
There kind of are 😜 the best 50 fury's on murlok
bleak topaz
U guys go blood knights or magisters?
fiery edge
Robot should tell u the truth
compact knot
yeah check robot
winter urchin
am i tryna stack mastery with pots and buffs then?
compact knot
am i tryna stack mastery with pots and buffs then?
probably
bleak topaz
I don’t want to. I'd like some empirical evidence
fiery edge
Nah all u get is dooming evidence
compact knot
empirical evidence in the big 2026 🥀
just make shit up, robot does everything for you
most people probably use arcane mastery/magisters flask though
if i had to guess
then stack haste heavier on gems/gear
still silo
My sims sit me around 600 crit 1050 haste and 750 mastery with mastery/haste gems and light’s pot
Crit enchants on rings etc
smoky vale
can you define emperical @compact knot
compact knot
smoky vale
1 off 20 resil
peak plaza
what is the consensus on slayer vs thane? playing both rn just based off vibes but are there like certain dungeon advantages?
smoky vale
What are you playing bro
bleak bluff
thanks a million
your the best
slim coral
<:Arms:592471950278787080>
No I mean on stream
slim coral
what is the consensus on slayer vs thane? playing both rn just based off vibes b...
Thane is better
smoky vale
im plaing honkai star rail
because madox and swordish
i did like 4 keys today
decided that was enough wow
i gotta sit in lfg tomorrow and go for 1 key!!!
tawny sonnet
On mythic dreamrift we can never cross over ? Because after ghost phase some tanks take boss to the other side and i cant do anything
still silo
think of the halfway cutoff being each side of the boss
not the middle of the arena
you should always be allowed space on your side of the boss
if you arent your group is trolling
tawny sonnet
Ok. So i can cross over and attavk as long as im not bumping into team 2
fading sky
Ok. So i can cross over and attavk as long as im not bumping into team 2
So ideally each grp keeps on their side of boss
I would make sure u never cross where ppl are suposed 2 place and save soaks
Leap below that, then charge boss
smoky vale
@sudden tusk gn madox
sudden tusk
<@110993922691477504> gn madox
i woulda hung out a bit
but i am up far too late already
smoky vale
i need to get better at reading obs
im just so used to turning it on for vod review
and then ignoring it forever
analog monolith
As MT in M+/AoE: Do I ever Prioritize execute with SD over BT/BB?
actually also same question for ST 😂
sudden tusk
the youtube chat program is kinda annoying
prob good if you find a third party chat program
sudden tusk
eh prob personal pref
prob becuase i couldnt find something to combine youtube/twitch chats
sudden tusk
ill look into it
rotund ginkgo
im just so used to turning it on for vod review
Gio stream?
sullen dove
"run your own"
heavy dock
I imagine they taste like fishy chicken
Apparently they taste like "beef cod and duck" very gamey flavour
cerulean junco
So the consensus is that fury slayer is roughly 25% higher dps than fury thane for st dps?
young swan
So the consensus is that fury slayer is roughly 25% higher dps than fury thane f...
where did u pull this number from 😭
young swan
whats the best way to sim for m+
coarse pollen
https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608
guh
really
😭
young swan
nothing changes for us
rotund ginkgo
U can do some Sim shenanigans
pulsar grove
Sim 1 boss 5 minutes for single target, 5 bosses 1 minute aoe.
rotund ginkgo
where did u pull this number from 😭
Bro just likes to say words
cerulean junco
where did u pull this number from 😭
I'm not seeing any fury thane come close to slayer fury on stdps fights
rotund ginkgo
Sim 1 boss 5 minutes for single target, 5 bosses 1 minute aoe.
Me when im wrong
young swan
I'm not seeing any fury thane come close to slayer fury on stdps fights
probably arent seeing thane on ST fights period
rotund ginkgo
Hi xan :3
mossy fox
slury felt real nice on lura
young swan
yeah good slurry fight for sure
rotund ginkgo
Why is xan not saying hi back
young swan
hi
mossy fox
i didnt get to test arms after buffs but i could actually enjoy the game as slury
rotund ginkgo
hi crit
mossy fox
hi wagish
rotund ginkgo
still silo
slayer fury feels very nice right now
young swan
slurry will never feel good to me as long as BS cdr and SD inconsistency stays the way it is
hushed ocean
this
radiant plank
i didnt get to test arms after buffs but i could actually enjoy the game as slur...
2ct build with massa is goated
young swan
straight ruined the hero talent because they're too pigheaded to add a universally well liked tierset into the hero talent tree
actually disgraceful
young swan
the fact they couldnt even be assed to buff the proc rate of slayer strikes back to 20% instead of just slapping a 40% damage amp on them is what really grinds my gears
mossy fox
2ct build with massa is goated
i'll try that later tonight, i already played it in a low key and it didnt impress me there
young swan
how lazy
mossy fox
yeah higher procrate on slayer strikes would be nice
overwhelmed constantly drops off as slayer arms
didnt notice that as fury but might be happening there too
rotund ginkgo
I sent 21 nxp slarms and it felt goated
sonic finch
https://tenor.com/view/pleurer-pleure-pleur%C3%A9-cry-crying-gif-165178485995749...
this yes please
mossy fox
i did a 21 npx yesterday as thane fury and that felt rly well rounded
mossy fox
topped overall with like 220k without inting on st
rotund ginkgo
I mean ye but no prio
Idk I dislike fury
This season
I think I did 200 but also I'm not fully in the zone yet on new alarms so
Slarms*
queen coyote
I mean ye but no prio
rotund ginkgo
It just felt good
rotund ginkgo
https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-inigo-montoya-meaning-are-you-sure-of-...
???
If I send a full pack and I do 90k to main target
My prio ain't allat
still silo
im just really liking the damage that slayer fury is pulling in keys, you get the prio damage and good aoe
plus it feels smooth
rotund ginkgo
Sure u could argue that ur dealing prio damage per se but ur doing bad prio damage
queen coyote
yeah but saying it doesn't have prio damage is just wrong yeah
rotund ginkgo
Yeh ik
It's just ass prio
Like on a 10 mob pack ur sending claps etc
Ur not sending pure ST
queen coyote
Like on a 10 mob pack ur sending claps etc
u can just not do this btw, if you need prio you can just press bb
still silo
watching noxiv playing slayer right now in keys is just solidifying my choice i think, having WW higher prio than RB is actually nice lol
i thought i hated it at first, but not having to worry about the WW buff is super nice to have
flat river
watching noxiv playing slayer right now in keys is just solidifying my choice i ...
WW is higher prio than RB?
rotund ginkgo
u can just not do this btw, if you need prio you can just press bb
Yeah but then if u need prio just go slarms
tight flax
kinda strange, fury feels good imo as well right now but raid statistics still show us low
Kinda just going to ignore them, haha
sly eagle
Feels good to play but for the same amount of work we're getting less damage than other classes
dense elbow
Kinda just going to ignore them, haha
Do that, I did
It is so late in the season that you could have brought pre-buff Fury and be fine
sly eagle
I'm not gonna switch but not gonna complain about buffs to be able to keep up in DPS with the faceroll of specs like ret, frost mage, unholy etc
tight flax
yeah exactly
dense elbow
Meh, I keep up with giga UDKs in keys. Even if they beat me, it aint by a landslide.
Fury is quite fine
sly eagle
I don't think my damage is bad
I'm timing 15s okay
But I must be doing something wrong cos I can't hit above like 150k overall by the end of the dungeon 😭
fleet yarrow
I don't think my damage is bad
I'm timing 15s okay
But I must be doing something...
How much of that is due to
Single target bosses taking 15 yrs?
sly eagle
Single target bosses taking 15 yrs?
A lot lmao
warm crag
Meh, I keep up with giga UDKs in keys. Even if they beat me, it aint by a landsl...
Imagine your Potential if you Pressed n then arms or unspecced OF
still silo
just pulled a 190k overall in a maisara 15 on slayer fury, it feels so good
forever unlucky
hollow maple
what talent do I give up if I want to pick up ER as slayer fury? Atm i have the standard m+ build from icyveins
quartz plaza
Hi, im actually having some question about fury MT. Is the priority list and rotation on wowhead still ok? (im french sorry for my english)
warm crag
guides should be up to date
unique pagoda
what is current meta for fury? thane or slayer? talking bout both m+ and raid
quartz plaza
thanks, im actually timing some +16 and +17 and i was wondering if im at the end of the pack like 20%hp on mob and my coodown are up (like avatar recklesness and odyn) is it worth using it or i wait for the next pack or i just use odyn?
fallen ginkgo
what talent do I give up if I want to pick up ER as slayer fury? Atm i have the ...
Drop the 2 point Talent on the right with the Face i think the Name is cruelty
still silo
what talent do I give up if I want to pick up ER as slayer fury? Atm i have the ...
naga you can get rid of 1 point from cruelty
unique pagoda
what is current meta for fury? thane or slayer? talking bout both m+ and raid
ive been playing thane only but slayer seems like a good idea with the buffs that it got
opaque mortar
Weird to see arms above fury in raid, even when I have arms gear on my fury stuff sims higher and I get better DPS on the dummies. Raid night is tonight so just gonna send fury but
devout grove
Is slayer starting to pull ahead of thane in m+???
slim coral
Is slayer starting to pull ahead of thane in m+???
Not from what I know
oak pecan
anybody here spell reflects seat's last boss disintegrate? as a dps warrior
hollow maple
Drop the 2 point Talent on the right with the Face i think the Name is cruelty
thanks man
hollow maple
naga you can get rid of 1 point from cruelty
Ty!
fading sky
Weird to see arms above fury in raid, even when I have arms gear on my fury stuf...
I mean crit did fury on lura
opaque mortar
I was just talking about overall DPS on logs but it does look like it's back and forth between bosses
sly eagle
just pulled a 190k overall in a maisara 15 on slayer fury, it feels so good
this more or less than you get with thane?
still silo
less than thane, but higher prio damage
mossy fox
because i felt like it'd be good
warm crag
p3 execute tho..
mossy fox
it was good
mossy fox
tbh i didnt even enjoy exe phase as arms during prog
i dont like afking waiting for rage
fury better for my mental
still silo
i dont like afking waiting for rage
this
warm crag
just proc skyfury or
mossy fox
my p3 dam was 190k and i actually died cause blind
so prolly would have been 210k+ or something
and i didnt get motw/skyfury rebuff
madge
warm crag
maybe tell your rebuffers to stop being noobs
brittle glacier
honestly after seeing you play fury yesterday on lura i decided to roll back to it unless until they chnage arms exe rage
it feels so freeing being able to press buttons
fading sky
i dont like afking waiting for rage
Just be lucky!
unique pagoda
when playing as slayer my bladestorm cd doesnt line up well with recklessness, should i wait for these cd to line up to use em or just press em as they come
fading sky
Id say line up bladestorm with reck, but not opposite
unique pagoda
so reck off cd, bladestorm waits?
rotund ginkgo
tbh i didnt even enjoy exe phase as arms during prog
Crit did u send any slurry keys?
My tank said Gucci is blasting slayer
unique pagoda
On cd but y
yy mb
fading sky
Usually worst case it gets rdy mid reck
But lets not lie worst part bout slayer is the rng of sd
unique pagoda
sd should always be popped as soon as it comes right?
mossy fox
Crit did u send any slurry keys?
yeah i tried it in skyreach 22, rly nice st
was keeping up with demolock
loud zinc
most importantly it’s also fun
mossy fox
but we also had aug so i wasnt able to see real numbers
loud zinc
i’ve seen 198k no aug in seat at a 21, not really sure if that translates as cleanly in SR since the pulls and bosses are very different
rotund ginkgo
yeah i tried it in skyreach 22, rly nice st
How did prio feel? And aoe?
I'm tryna see if it's comparable to slarms
mossy fox
idk aoe felt slightly weak but not that bad
rotund ginkgo
Cuz I just enjoy slarms more
mossy fox
team is pushing up our 21s later, we have resi so will be able to cook then
rotund ginkgo
I imagine prio is
SD > exec > ramp to not cap > bb > bt > ramp > ww?
mossy fox
something like that
rotund ginkgo
Alr
mossy fox
i just press buttons
rotund ginkgo
Similar to slarms then
rotund ginkgo
i just press buttons
Ye no shit
Gatekeepcake57
When r u dropping guidecake like the bizenguide?
loud zinc
respect
mossy fox
so i just never make them
brittle crow
I imagine prio is
SD > exec > ramp to not cap > bb > bt > ramp > ww?
don't u never want to overcap
mossy fox
yeee actually move that ramp not to cap up
fading sky
no point his guide is good
- archie does a good 1
loud zinc
sd and execute mean the same thing there too
nah not in slayer they don’t
lament carbon
Hey guys, what are the stat priorities for Slayer right now? How much Crit and Haste should I be aiming for?
brittle crow
nah not in slayer they don’t
if u have both sd and execute above ramp
then u just press execute!
das the same thing
loud zinc
i get what you’re saying but they accomplish different things and thereby have a slightly different priority
sly eagle
Hey guys, what are the stat priorities for Slayer right now? How much Crit and H...
haste > mastert > crit > vers
but to get a proper answer, you need to sim your gear, on what stats would be better for you specifically, depending on what you already have