That's what I was thinking of.
#fury
opaque mortar
safe imp
Execute is nice rage generation after enough tclap+rampage spams
ancient spear
Wonder if there’s ever any amount of capping rage that’s worth it fishing for thunderblasts procs during CDs
calm zinc
anyone else find rampage basically doesnt proc reap. the rng is awful
opaque mortar
Weaving in bloodbath for more TB procs always feels nice but not optimal on bigger pulls
modest ravine
Is there actually any good guides to fully understand fury’s rotation? I feel like wowhead and icy veins are outdated
drifting token
wowhead was updated yesterday.
Just watch a critcake or noxiv stream and look at how they press shit. Best way to learn is visually.
keen kindle
Guys how much of a loss is ER again?
undone flower
dont kill vorasius for 24 h pls
keen kindle
For m+
keen kindle
dont kill vorasius for 24 h pls
I thought that said -100
spare flame
dont kill vorasius for 24 h pls
found the fr#nch
keen kindle
I was like "what the fuck"
wispy mural
Feel bad no mean nothing hit button brother man
spare flame
god know how much i hate the left side boss in nexus point jesus
feels like nobody knows how to do that fight
knows*
teal slate
dont kill vorasius for 24 h pls
Welp guess I'll start pugging
willow delta
Something is off between the wowhead guide or the simc apl.
The wowhead slayer multi target rotation completely omits raging blow and crushing blow.
But they are present in the slayer aoe section of the APL.
So, is raging/crushing blow part of aoe rotation or not?
scarlet swift
I tell you what, this tree is the mvp of the whole xpac
modest condor
Something is off between the wowhead guide or the simc apl.
The wowhead slayer...
notice something here?
keen kindle
god know how much i hate the left side boss in nexus point jesus
It's annoying as fuck
unreal onyx
we ARE gaming
fleet yarrow
god know how much i hate the left side boss in nexus point jesus
wdym
undone flower
G G
fleet yarrow
whats do u fuck up on it?
willow delta
notice something here?
Yeah, exactly like I said
They are present in the APL
Unless you are trying to point out something I'm missing?
The problem is they are absent from the wowhead rotation
So which one is wrong? They were both updated recently
modest condor
neither is wrong
spare flame
the lasers/floor shit also tank positioning
modest condor
look at the parts i circled in red
olive wraith
look at the parts i circled in red
He’s saying cb/rb isn’t shown in wowhead
modest condor
yes, and there's a reason for that which you would understand if you looked at my screenshot
undone flower
rb and cb are under a spell with 0 cd
modest condor
assuming you can read the APL ofcourse
radiant plank
olive wraith
I thought rb was higher than ww if rend didn’t need refreshing
unreal onyx
are we still using thane on beloren now?
modest condor
@willow delta if you want me to explain it i can
willow delta
look at the parts i circled in red
ok I understand
it took me a second
the apl is accounting for different talent setups (one that we would never realistically take, but still)
where the wowhead guide doesn't bother
modest condor
yes
willow delta
lol at first I was like, bro... but I am glad you made me think it through LOL
haughty carbon
Men, Fury Slayer is SO BROKEN in key
unreal onyx
I mean, what key at what level with what pulls
undone flower
Stonks
spare flame
how much m+ rating do yall think 1% will be?
unreal onyx
arms would do more 
frank dawn
prob like 3600 or so?
haughty carbon
I mean, what key at what level with what pulls
Terrace 18
With normal route
Slayer fury is very OP everywhere
frank dawn
there ain't no way this man is calling fury op lol
haughty carbon
For sure men
spare flame
this aint 2004 vanilla
frank dawn
the buffs were very nice, but I ain't buying OP
olive wraith
I think you’re underestimating actual op specs
ornate gust
We are mid of the pack right now
undone flower
@winter shoal better tracked bar have same issue
unreal onyx
slayer fine now finally
frank dawn
What did u mean by « op »
typically I tend to think of overpowered as being tuned above and beyond even most (but not all) of the best specs
unreal onyx
thane still m+, no?
frank dawn
not just "very good"
haughty carbon
AAAH
olive wraith
thane still m+, no?
Can go either way
haughty carbon
Didnt think about OP 😂
That a French term sorry
I meaning Slayer Fury is very Nice
olive wraith
Le overpower
frank dawn
ah yeah sure, I agree. Slayer is fun to play and feels strong
haughty carbon
thane still m+, no?
Both is fine i guess
frank dawn
Thane is still easier to play imo, and a bit tankier
unreal onyx
I just fiend for the dopamine of TC in big pulls
summer quail
Thane is still easier to play imo, and a bit tankier
you think? slayer is easier imo, less buttons to think about
odd crater
Slayer makes my monke brain happy
haughty carbon
Me too 🤣
odd crater
whats a good ST number to sim as m+ thane rn?
69,420
spring pumice
@frank dawn is it tankier? Slayer heals off of Execute procs
hoary tartan
thane is significantly tankier
haughty carbon
Slayer is less tankier
unreal onyx
haughty carbon
And Die = massive dps loss in slayer
humble plover
bonus rolls have been generous
drifting token
<@117701616538353672> is it tankier? Slayer heals off of Execute procs
Way tankier, yes. Thane has basically permanent 8% more dr/5% more stam and casts BT much more.
haughty carbon
I checked my talent tree and try to see I can take the big enraged thing in fury
odd crater
Is Crown neck only good if you have rings + voidclaw or is voidclaw only fine
haughty carbon
But its complicated
unreal onyx
bonus rolls have been generous
no myth luura ring
haughty carbon
U cant really remove BT buff node and u dont want to remove some exec buff node
teal slate
bonus rolls have been generous
Some drown while others die of dehydration
winter shoal
<@138757776707944448> better tracked bar have same issue
Yeah the author said it's a blizzard-side issue. I'm sure their top minds (Claude opus 4.6) are on it 
unreal onyx
I wanted to roll for a myth helm to catalyze in PoS now for 2 weeks
guess what is the last item I didnt get yet
but everything else
random shadow
guess what is the last item I didnt get yet
its ok i have to roll my last Pit item which is my helm next week 
at least i can use the cloak to upgrade for the the achivement
unreal onyx
i got the achiev just now
distant nacelle
Would you guys roll in seat if it's your highest possible upgrade (gloves) or would you roll on Skyreach and have a chance on 3 items? (little upgrades)
unreal onyx
we killed alleria and everyone got to hold the very rare neck to get it
random shadow
my guild doesnt really mythic raid so i have to deal with the vault mythic upgrades
so crest usage is gonna be slower for me
unreal onyx
I wonder why they didnt remov the crest cap yet
with all the rolls on mythic items you have now
brittle crow
yes.... now send it
distant nacelle
Maybe next week with the release of 298 weapons and trinkets?
random shadow
Maybe next week with the release of 298 weapons and trinkets?
dont see why they would remove cap with the upgraded weapons and trinkets as they dont require crests
distant nacelle
Don't know, just a guess
edgy widget
if they remove cap, it won't be till 12.0.7
random shadow
dam 121 is long ways
crude crater
300 year anniversary
unreal onyx
didnt they remove the cap last time when the myth crest cap was 900?
random shadow
might not even live till that patch
unreal onyx
which would be next week
random shadow
didnt they remove the cap last time when the myth crest cap was 900?
when was turbo boost last season
unreal onyx
but why flood us with mythic items we cant upgrade yet then
random shadow
they removed it during turbo last season if im not mistaken
distant nacelle
Wasn't it 11.2.5?
random shadow
the .5 patch last season was much later then this season as well tho
modest condor
doesnt it just feel that way because the first 3 weeks of this patch there was nothing to do?
i guess if you count the season as starting when mythic opens you're right
dense elbow
EQ
unreal onyx
as fury?
dense elbow
yarp
edgy widget
but why flood us with mythic items we cant upgrade yet then
that's why lol
they can afford to flood players with items because they're still crest capped
random shadow
gearing very easy, alt that i barely play is already 282 with like very little raiding in general, warrior is already 284 as well with barely any mythic raiding
dense elbow
Wish there was less crest farm for alts tho
edgy widget
alts already get insanely hooked up
dense elbow
Starting a new alt is... a chore
random shadow
i mean it kinda is less no its 50% off
you can get double the hero upgrades with the price of 100 compared to mains
frosty bridge
If this is alts being a chore then we were being tortured a handful of years ago lol
random shadow
i dont think its that bad compared to like last season or whatever, upgrades for alts are half off once you get the achivement
sullen tendon
i just simply cant believe that these are the people applying for 19s
dense elbow
BobbyB coming in hard
random shadow
like once you finish myth its 10 upgrades for 100 mythic crests lol
unreal onyx
I dont like all the crests you have to farm to gear an alt in heroic gear from m+
real cape
i just simply cant believe that these are the people applying for 19s
LFGs finest
sullen tendon
this is like all 40 people in my que right now
languid willow
i just simply cant believe that these are the people applying for 19s
I should honestly start checking logs
modest condor
love to see it
languid willow
My list of failures today after pushing my key up every time
On the bright side the 19s have been easier
sullen tendon
I would preffer to jsut get invited tho
languid willow
You’re right bro wtf am I doing
sullen tendon
typical aug logs
spare flame
My list of failures today after pushing my key up every time
i see a pattern here
languid willow
i see a pattern here
dense elbow
real cape
Rise as well
sullen tendon
show damage breakdown
dense elbow
I rather greylog than play RR 
honest trail
sullen tendon
expand ramp
random shadow
might as well just link the log
sullen tendon
computer enhance
spare steppe
honest trail
might as well just link the log
But I have to think
Just trying some slayer in 16-17's
honest trail
It's absolute trash on Ick guys but rest is good
teal slate
Man I need to find these guys to play with to boost my ego lol my highest DMG in a key was 187k and was still third against our demo lock and ret pally 😂
honest trail
Man I need to find these guys to play with to boost my ego lol my highest DMG in...
They're my friends
We just chilling
spare flame
man i should start logging my runs, i just did a 16 pit too and did 177.2k dps
no aug
dense elbow
Man I need to find these guys to play with to boost my ego lol my highest DMG in...
Do lower keys we really good at lower keys
honest trail
Don't be mean to my friends!
teal slate
We just chilling
I just wanna be top once 😂
teal slate
Do lower keys <:gladge:963970137701109820> we really good at lower keys
I mean 187k is pretty good lol
random shadow
Don't be mean to my friends!
you have friends? :O
honest trail
Oh well we don't care about meta & shit as you can see we don't even have freaking BL
random shadow
where to buy shaman friends?
teal slate
Oh well we don't care about meta & shit as you can see we don't even have freaki...
Done a fair few 18s with just drums 😂
honest trail
Slayer keying is fun
dense elbow
Slayer keing do be fun
random shadow
at least you have decent folks to be able to go into 16-18s
id like to make a group just having fun and attempting higher keys, guildies are scared
is lame
sullen tendon
none of my group members notice but im still using the dragonflight perma augment rune
unreal onyx
I kinda found fun in arms keying
dense elbow
Lolxd
random shadow
I kinda found fun in arms keying
arms keying is very fun
random shadow
dam what his toe do to you
random shadow
--- -- -, hope you break your pinky
what my pinky do to you
honest trail
none of my group members notice but im still using the dragonflight perma augmen...
You're using an augment rune?
dense elbow
Arms pinky
random shadow
i cant rampage without pinky bro
random shadow
bro cant afford 5g pots
dense elbow
imagine, not being able to spend 2.5g on pots!
spare flame
i cant believe i see people not prepotting before key starts in fucking 16s and up
smh my head
shit's like 30g
random shadow
this is also why i do alch besides the extended buff length
random shadow
i cant believe i see people not prepotting before key starts in fucking 16s and ...
i dont do that shit either
spare flame
why not
random shadow
i either forget or lazy, i go on second monitor while the timer is going down, still pump
spare flame
free 600 primary stats
unreal onyx
I hope you break your toe
rude
I have been fury one trick pony for 6 years straight now
random shadow
free 600 primary stats
dc
dense elbow
Arms scum
hot shell
<:dandy:809705852658253844> Arms scum
Rude
random shadow
while they get on my head for not prepotting but like i do more dps then them
so like do i really care
spare flame
bigger number = more dopamine
unreal onyx
timeout funky
dense elbow
You know just asking that, will get it done
random shadow
if you prepot
dense elbow
Now that is rude
random shadow
do you just like pot later?
dense elbow
random shadow
but like do you not use your actual pot after, during pull etc
dense elbow
I will see you in 10min Lolxd, this timeout is on you!
random shadow
ig it also depends on the key and whats happening
spare flame
but like do you not use your actual pot after, during pull etc
i do
random shadow
maybe it wouldnt be bad on seat on col arms
can ahve the prepot while i dot and get my stacks up then pot during a fresh 10 stacks demo
hot shell
i'd say 1 prepot each lust MINIMUM
This. Minimum is 1 pot per BL
wise cave
One pot per dungeon for every key level it is over your current highest.
modest condor
one pot per dungeon if i dont forget
hot shell
What are Pots, just zugzug
wise cave
A lot of you warriors aren't even zugging right. Every single time I see one of you playing a not-Orc, I feel deep shame and embarrassment on your behalf. Get your shit together.
modest condor
orcs dont have a useful racial
wispy thistle
if you arent gaming recklessness pots what are you even doing?
hot shell
Human.. green old human with back problems... whats the difference
wise cave
Unless you're a DH, evoker, or paladin. Then you're playing the wrong class, play something an orc can be.
past pivot
It would be better to not play than play orc. Only thing worse is a gnome.
wise cave
Draenei are sometimes acceptable. They're kinda cool.
wise cave
They're space goats.
random shadow
A lot of you warriors aren't even zugging right. Every single time I see one of ...
orcs are kinda lame tho
wise cave
Fight me 1v1 irl.
random shadow
my power fantasy isnt a warrior orc
hot shell
Ok
random shadow
is why i played human warrior, tho now i play a panda lmao
wise cave
my power fantasy isnt a warrior orc
Your power fantasy sucks then. Do better.
hot shell
is why i played human warrior, tho now i play a panda lmao
Idk why but panda feels wrong outside of monks
wise cave
You can't zugzug as a human. That's a scientific fact.
random shadow
only reason i witched to panda
the food racial is nice too
but mainly cause animation
hot shell
Lets be real
wise cave
I assume any dude playing a female panda crossdresses in real life. Not judging, I just want pics.
hot shell
We all use some kind of mogging toys or items 90% of the time anyways
random shadow
I assume any dude playing a female panda crossdresses in real life. Not judging,...
i dont do the crossdressing and all that jaz, but i do play female panda since i like the animation better then male panda, i was a human warrior before the race swap
was a fury player first before arms
and i didnt like the male panda animations
wise cave
I don't remember the last time prior to this expansion that I PVE'd as arms. I gave it a shot in M+ this go around and it's fun and good, but I have been an orc fury warrior since there's been orcs and warriors to be.
hot shell
Orcs arent made for 2 weapons
wise cave
Your face is made for 2 weapons tho. Come get some.
hot shell
Thanks
wise cave
I disagree, I think they look huge and clunky like a warrior should. I hate all the smaller races looking like agile and shit.
random shadow
idc about that look tbh, i just like how panda arms look animation wise
wise cave
I actually haven't seen female panda warrior animations but I hear they're good.
But I'm rarely watching my own animations anyway.
random shadow
like MS is a uppercut going up right ish
slam is like a coast to coast
or a whole 360 rather
wise cave
... now I'm curious what vulpera animations are.
hot shell
Dont
wise cave
I honestly don't remember the last time I saw ANY vulpera anywhere.
unborn musk
Lightforged draenei Furies for the win
safe imp
nothing better than classic undead warrior animations
hot shell
Old female human arms models have been best imo
mellow smelt
are we simming with dungeon slice or patchwerk 5 bosses for aoe sims?
unborn musk
nothing better than classic undead warrior animations
On a private WOTLK server from waaaay back, Prot Warrior Undead was my very first char. Got with him up to Hellfire peninsual
real cape
Also is tauren/hmt the only race with the og mortal strike animation
I don't like these new twirls
wise cave
It's been a day. Chiiiill.
young swan
started from the bottom now we... oh
probably dont look at "all percentiles"
it doesnt get much better
but its still just better to look at 95th+
wise cave
Arcane goes hard.
south kayak
hardy cargo
maybe they should buff devourer again guys...
wind ether
are we simming with dungeon slice or patchwerk 5 bosses for aoe sims?
m+ slice is a pseudo rng pattern of like 1 to 9 enemies if i recall correctly, it has a single boss followed by packs of strong and weak mobs but the packs can overlap so it can have pretty different results
i would say patchwerk is probably best for your actual dps
wise cave
Wait... did frost really come up that much on boss damage?
wind ether
pillar of frost is busted
it was played in the awc recently
deleting people instantly
wise cave
I totally wrote them off for the entire tier already.
kindred jay
hello guys, so is fury better for M+ now or still arms better
wise cave
They're comparable now, pick what you like.
worn yoke
but its still just better to look at 95th+
this is true i should have
compact knot
hello guys, so is fury better for M+ now or still arms better
its probably preference now, but arms still slightly beats out fury
arms also 10x harder then fury
rancid hare
slayer or thane fury?
wise cave
I feel like thane fury is smoother than colo arms, but colo has a higher cap if you know what you're doing, which I only kinda do.
hot shell
Arms has prio dmg, thane doesnt, overall looks about the Same
Pick your poison
shut tusk
Slayer if you wanna be a chad
kindred jay
ion know what i like i enjoy both, dinged 90 saturday, swapped to arms yesterday (got myth craft weapon) and today on raid got a tons of items ( beloren hero trinket / ball mace hero )
so might try fury again since have 2x weap
compact knot
oh if you just hit 90 just try both out
w/e you think is more fun = commit and play to it
both specs are very playable rn
wise cave
I would recommend thane for a fresh 90, because it's a bit more simple.
kindred jay
oh if you just hit 90 just try both out
im 270 ilvl alr xD
just did nexus point Without 2nd ring got it this run managed to overall 100-120 till last boss (we didnt had hero) dropped overall to 80k cuz of lothrax lol (+11)
hot shell
Play all combinations of hero talents/specc and pick what you enjoy most
kindred jay
Play all combinations of hero talents/specc and pick what you enjoy most
im in arms swapping hero talents depending on dung according to Biz guide from like 2 weeks ago
- idk why playing arms is kinda easier just following what addon is showing me for rotation for now xd
hot shell
Warrior can be summed up as follows:
U want .1% m+ title?
Yes > dont play warr without group
No > play what u want
kindred jay
this for rotation for now as yea still not comfortable and always played with rotation managers (rip hekili)
kindred jay
Warrior can be summed up as follows:
U want .1% m+ title?
Yes > dont play warr ...
ye ye i want the 3.4 ratio this season should be attainable have a really good guild for the first time lol
- first raid mythic last week they killed 4 bosses
hot shell
3.4 is obtainable with anything
kindred jay
true
hot shell
If thats your goal.. again pick what u enjoy most
random shadow
3.4k ez this season
frosty lintel
Can anyone explain why some top parsers are using double arcanoweave vs. offhand hunt
kindred jay
xD
wise cave
What's 3.4 equal out to? Like all 15s?
random shadow
16
kindred jay
What's 3.4 equal out to? Like all 15s?
i think 16 with 17 ?
random shadow
just 16s
kindred jay
lmao
random shadow
maybe 1 or 2 15 if really fast time
kindred jay
so just need to get 280 ilvl and can do all 16
hot shell
Yeag
wise cave
I'm only 3k but I have always hated M+ and don't care about mounts/achievements.
hot shell
16s are pretty free
kindred jay
I'm only 3k but I have always hated M+ and don't care about mounts/achievements.
i only care about it cuz we get to chose old mount
- always wanted to push
coarse nest
16s are not tight on timer yet
random shadow
i like m+ its fun imo
kindred jay
but like didnt have motivation to play past week 3 of raiding with shit ass guilds
coarse nest
You can have deaths
kindred jay
who wiped every week to the same thing done by the same players on HC difficulty
wise cave
I've actually been tanking more M+ than I've been dpsing, just because tanking is the easiest job in the game
hot shell
i only care about it cuz we get to chose old mount
Basically arms is slower pace with big Hits
Fury is fast paced with Lots of small Hits
Pick what playstyle you prefer and just go for it
random shadow
Basically arms is slower pace with big Hits
Fury is fast paced with Lots of sma...
big hits?
ive seen my MS crit for 30k
rancid hare
anyone tried ruin like archimitiros suggested for slayer?
random shadow
its just the rng of it
ive seen it hit 200k with no amp
then at times itll crit for 30k
kindred jay
ms is
random shadow
same thing with SLam OP and cleave
hot shell
Cant say i have thwt issue
coarse nest
Well yeah you either have 5+ modifiers on ms or none 2 kek
kindred jay
ah mortal strike
random shadow
im not talking about mods just how rng is
coarse nest
The ability swings wildly based on active modifiers
compact knot
well when you have a trinket called gaze of the alnseer which gives like
random shadow
1 MS crit can be 150k 1 can be 30k
compact knot
a lot of strength
random shadow
baseline with no mods
compact knot
things can happen
hot shell
Did you equip a dagger from 5 Expansions ago
random shadow
in the same 284 gear so
compact knot
my mortal strikes crit minimum for like 90k
with noting
no ep, martial prowess, cs avatar
random shadow
idk, hitting dummies so
hot shell
Well, open world it crits less
south kayak
Maybe that dummy has a lot of armor or something
random shadow
random shadow
probably the good ol ui bugs
novel rivet
they just buffed it
hot shell
They didnt buff it they relocated the damage afaik
south kayak
^
novel rivet
oh I see
hot shell
They took away some immediate damage and turned it into more bleed dmg
random shadow
they nerfed everything but buffed trash by 200%
real cape
How is Guardian druid still doing dps damage after 3 nerfs lmao
200% and 100% buff to thrash when they have 10 talents that buff it
so now bear mashes 1 button that does 80% of their damage unironically
random shadow
i mean at one point it was just ravager so did it really change from 1 button to just another button
hot shell
Yes
undone flower
It’s maul but AoE
hot shell
Thresh is an aoe hit with an extra bleed effect.
Thresh has a chance to proc another thresh for free. So you can have 4+ threshs within the same gcd sometimes
undone flower
It caused the uber burst
sturdy kindle
whats the slayer build fopr mythics? Do i take rampaging ruin?
south kayak
It caused the uber burst
Oh right, then it makes sense
visual vale
Is it normal what I often find myself pressing WW in a solo target because even RB on cd and I cant press anything else?
fury slayer
undone flower
Yes it happens but rare
If it’s too often, it’s bc you rampage too early rage wise
visual vale
well, if i have 80 rage and no exe or bt available I will press rampage, without delaying for example
its bad?
i mean, such situation doesnt happens every time, but much often than in thane(amost never)
undone flower
well, if i have 80 rage and no exe or bt available I will press rampage, without...
No it’s good, you have then rb/wreck to fill until BT is no longer in cd
Yes it happens more often than thane bc you have thunderclap as thane
fleet yarrow
How is nexus 16 a pink?
manic tapir
arms gear but swapped around the few things i had, worth trying thane with these stats? thats my mastery with plume on btw
hot shell
Why wouldnt it be worth trying if you really want to?
Spread isnt horrible
manic tapir
i mean viable to try now, but all good if that kind of spread is okay, thanks mate
hot shell
Youd want more mastery/haste and less crit generally speaking, but its not like you got no mast at all so for testing purposes its fine
mint moat
neat gazelle
just switched to warrior.. want to crank in m+... arms or fury whats the play gents
neat gazelle
i think fury sounds more fun to me, but someone told me fury isnt as good as arms and will rot in ques lol
young swan
nah thats not really true anymore
last week it was
but post buff thane is very good
fleet yarrow
Is single target dmg just all around bad this expansion or ?
Cuz every M+ Im finding myself in, the single target dmg on bosses is actually just, god awful
young swan
from warrior or?
fleet yarrow
from warrior or?
other classes
rancid hare
anyone tried ruin like archimitiros suggested for slayer?
fleet yarrow
Like Im hitting 80k at end of boss fight thinking I didn't do hot
young swan
but generally its fine
fleet yarrow
And then looking at other classes doing like 60k
young swan
most people that play this game suck
modest condor
60k is really bad but what keylevel are you doing
fleet yarrow
15-16's
modest condor
that's crazy
tawny basalt
hi guys
modest condor
i did that dps pre-buff at ilvl 272
tawny basalt
need a quick tip[
fleet yarrow
Like we absolutely murderize the adds, but then solo target comes for boss and its wet noodle slapping
tawny basalt
if you still have 3-4 stacks of improved whirlwind - do you use up the stacks before thunder blasting or just use thunderblast regardless ?
visual vale
there will always be stacks
tawny basalt
so odys - TB - rampage ?
visual vale
cuz you pres TB and TC regulary
modest condor
3-4 stacks and blast is available would mean you're in avatar in which case just slam that shit
olive wraith
so odys - TB - rampage ?
Depends
tawny basalt
elaborate?
another question
do you still thunderclap on single target if thunderblast doesnt proc ?
sullen tendon
have you guys ever seen a tank die on ruhkmar in skyreach
olive wraith
another question
do you still thunderclap on single target if thunderblast does...
As a filler
olive wraith
elaborate?
There’s a few conditional that’s listed in the wowhead prio
jovial mauve
hows slayer feeling lads
lethal edge
Hello, do you play MT or Slayer for raids?
past pivot
Hello, do you play MT or Slayer for raids?
Yes. Depends on fight
lethal edge
Was planning on doing the first 3 of voidspire and Chim
undone flower
I played thane on all 4 except vorasius slayer
lethal edge
Alright ill try that out and see how it feels
dreamy siren
anyone tried slayer in keys?
covert coyote
did a 19 wrs last night, it was alright. first dungeon as slayer this season though so probably skill issue
neat gazelle
fury feels so good in m+ now... coming for you arms! you guys see yodas new tier list? has fury and arms in s tier haha
covert coyote
pretty sure both slayer and thane are viable up to like 20s
somber eagle
any idea what "~" means around parses?
somber eagle
gg
dreamy siren
sad
neat gazelle
anyone have a good fury ellsemere ui profile they can share?
south kayak
They are I think
neat gazelle
and also as a new fury, are my first 2 crafts going to be 2 two handers?
neat gazelle
ok. do i double embellish the wrist and cloak?
covert coyote
^
neat gazelle
so hunt on weapon first, then when i craft the other too remove that off weapon, and use arcanoweave on both the wrist and cloak?
just want to make sure i understand corectly
covert coyote
the main response you will get in this discord is to sim yo self. From what I've read in here recently, hunt weapon and 1 arcanoweave is better if not tied with 2X myth weapons and 2X arcanoweave on cloak/wrist
somber eagle
so hunt on weapon first, then when i craft the other too remove that off weapon,...
imo first cloak
neat gazelle
i appreciate the help kaziln!
somber eagle
if ur not raiding myth
neat gazelle
i only do m+
somber eagle
wrists drop from 1st boss mythic
cloak from dragons
if you dont plan on raiding far cloak + belt is good option
modest ravine
dude i cant break like 70k dps as a fury warrior at 280ilvl. i switched from prot so dont have ideal gear but still man wtfffff. training dummies are making me ashed rn lol
vale solar
dude i cant break like 70k dps as a fury warrior at 280ilvl. i switched from pro...
St or mt?
somber eagle
and whats ur stat prio
somber eagle
if you went from prot which is haste crit into mast haste
stats are first thing you should change ;d
vale solar
Slam some 10s. Pretty easy to get gear and won’t be anything but gold to upgrade if you are 280
If you have crafted items just re craft for haste/mast
modest ravine
ok ty will do
solemn trench
Hey, how did the Fury ranks fare in the raid leaderboard and the Mythic+ leaderboard?
fiery crown
sup comrades . have question . is slayer build now good for single target in raids and if it is does someone has a good build to share ?
solemn trench
I'm using Slayer on Vorasius and Averzian
solemn trench
In Chimerus and Salhalar, Thane is still better, I think
waxen vale
mt better on mt
somber eagle
everything up from king MT is better
waxen vale
slayer more fun tho
fiery crown
what would be perfect stats for furry ?
waxen vale
lots of fur
solemn trench
mm 45 mastery 28 haste 18 crit
fiery crown
im atm at 19 crit 26 haste and 35 mastery
tardy hedge
did anything chance with buffs at m+? i think it didnt even do much for fury that small buff
fiery crown
is that with flasks ??
vale solar
Yesterday I parsed 99 on the first 3 mythic bosses
As slayer I’m guessing?
solemn trench
slayer in vorasius and averzian
vale solar
Jk I saw your reply
fiery crown
i mean consums
solemn trench
Today we need to improve that king.
eager stirrup
Today we need to improve that king.
I died twice last night during our kill 💀
Brain wasn’t on
solemn trench
:((
olive wraith
mm 45 mastery 28 haste 18 crit
Nope
olive wraith
what would be perfect stats for furry ?
Don’t worry about perfect stats
Just sim gear as you get it
stoic star
What classes do yall prefer to run with in higher keys? I cant seem to find a group that can reliably time Nexus-Point Xenas.
Do you go with a melee group / shaman / monk?
languid willow
I go brew/bear, MW/rsham, rogue, hunter/enhance, then me
languid willow
Both I have on my friends list go crazy idk
spare flame
same dracz
hot shell
You just got lucky then ngl
Its the same with your pug feral. Your pug feral wont be good 80% of the time
hot shell
Exactly
hot shell
feels like every single ret i run with, they die the most
Im gonna give you some secret advice
spare flame
hot shell
If the ret is from ArgentDawn, Kazzak or has hyroglyphs in its name, dont invite
hot shell
If youre NA this advice wont work
steep bough
is arms lower cpm than fury (slayer or thane)
olive wraith
A little
steep bough
everytime i have anyone look at my logs, they tell me my cpm are low
olive wraith
Are you gcd locked
steep bough
i feel like im literally hitting something constantly but somehow still low
olive wraith
Are they saying cpm or casts of an ability
steep bough
cpm
steady shale
I had the same issue. Check your downtime for the fights.
long marsh
Time off boss, low haste or poor enrage uptime?
hot shell
is arms lower cpm than fury (slayer or thane)
Very much lower apm
brittle crow
six seven six six seven...
modest condor
the last 6 is upside down for some reason
steep bough
ignore the vorasius kill ( i had pi for some reason)
but maybe i just need to go to something not as fast paced
hot shell
but maybe i just need to go to something not as fast paced
Do not care about logs too much this addon.
EVERY single boss in the raid is padheavy. The top warrior logs get to pad alot
hot shell
Thats where warior is generally at. If you top the meters your group sucks, plainly put
steep bough
well it feels bad, right? to feel like youre cranking and you go and look, and its grey/green or blue
steep bough
Are you gcd locked
how would i know if i was gcd locked?
hot shell
Is that mythic logs ?
modest condor
look at boss damage instead of overall damage, are they still green and blue?
steep bough
yes it is mythic logs
olive wraith
how would i know if i was gcd locked?
Could look at the cast timetable
hot shell
Ok lets see first boss for example
undone flower
Taking this pot gives me higher dps than Light's potential
you never used it i guess
hot shell
Habe you permanently been able to cleave on the adds ?
steep bough
no they get auto deleted lmao
floral wasp
you never used it i guess
I hate the silence mechanic
undone flower
this pot is the best pot of the game, but...
hot shell
And thats why your log is bad
steep bough
im about to just go slayer and sit on the boss
undone flower
the puddles
hot shell
Vorasius Shows that you CAN play warrior on a good Basis. The Ticks arent heavy pad and should be killed by Ranged prio in the firdt place, pi or no pi doesnt matter
Not having good logs is just a matter of your ability to pad.
If you know you cant pad with a greedy group - Honestly go full ST specc and your logs will look better
steep bough
ill have to relearn slayer, cause ive been thane all season
is slayer fury better than arms st?
hot shell
By a neglectable ammount yes
steep bough
( i seen the buffs, but i dont raid til saturday) im waiting to see how logs look then
compact knot
Taking this pot gives me higher dps than Light's potential
it also silences you!
dont use it
!
floral wasp
it also silences you!
I tested it its fucking horrible
slim coral
it also silences you!
Auto attack build would go insane
compact knot
and even then its worse then just using recklessness for some specs
slim coral
hot shell
( i seen the buffs, but i dont raid til saturday) im waiting to see how logs loo...
Thanes whole kit is padding.
My advice is to play slayer and just take improved ww, see if you can bad a lil and if not - no big deal
steep bough
Could look at the cast timetable
so is this what youre looking for?
olive wraith
It’s one way to see if there’s gaps
languid willow
ignore the vorasius kill ( i had pi for some reason)
Is this mythic? 90% of mythic is fake pad I would t count it out yet
olive wraith
There’s another one that shows you timetable
hot shell
Youd have to see the fight as a whole to make any assumptions really. Downtime can be from anything
steep bough
Is this mythic? 90% of mythic is fake pad I would t count it out yet
yeah it was pre buff, and thats also from like early april, ive got more gear and parsed and did worse since then
languid willow
Every parse I got I just looked at lorggs and realized every fury was saving
CDs for add drops but if you’re progging a boss just do your best to kill it
Also if you are playing against pad classes in raid you’ll never compete bc shit just melts
olive wraith
If I had to guess you’re not really low on cpm
steep bough
one sec and i can get actual numbers
olive wraith
I’m at 75+ cpm
We have a couple things that inflates it
languid willow
Bro our ret is on crack wtf
steep bough
Mythic Chim : 59 cpm
Mythic Vor : 71 cpm
Mythic Sal: 63 cpm
this past weekend
hot shell
Well
Chim u cant have high cpm for obvious reasons
Saladbar is kinda rng with Spikes
olive wraith
Bro our ret is on crack wtf
Crusading strikes counts as a cast for some reason
languid willow
Yes chim is my lowest at 67
hot shell
I wouldnt say its an RPM issue
languid willow
Crusading strikes counts as a cast for some reason
Okay this makes way more sense
I was like how is dude perma 80+
steep bough
i just want to do better, you know? i was a tank prior to this season and i feel like im struggling
olive wraith
Pretty sure only tanks can hit above 80
hot shell
Did you Post your whole logs in #1347646810457636974 yet? There is some cranked math people who will tell you in detail whats wrong
languid willow
Yea prot war is insane cpm
surreal linden
how we feeling about slury on M crown?
steep bough
I did, and got some help but it was only a imperator log at the time
olive wraith
Max apm on gcd is 80
steep bough
and they told me the same thing, if the adds are getting deleted, good luck
olive wraith
And that’s if you’ve maxed your haste
olive wraith
Don’t think it’s possible to hit .75 gcd without lust
hot shell
Try a slayer singletarget build with improved ww, cleave if POSSIBLE (dont force it) and see if it improved
compact knot
Don’t think it’s possible to hit .75 gcd without lust
wait till you learn about the haste recklessness pot technology
(its a massive dps loss)
compact knot
i did it on my dev dh during lust and had 220% haste LMFAO
hot shell
DDH detected
steep bough
Try a slayer singletarget build with improved ww, cleave if POSSIBLE (dont force...
I will probably try to log all my fights from the this upcoming saturday and try the log and review thing again. that way, they have more of a relevant log to look at and a few different fights
potent terrace
Idk for me slayer single target just feels weird. Like having a single target spec pump so much emphasis into Bladestorm makes my brain feel off
Am I crazy?
languid willow
wait till you learn about the haste recklessness pot technology
Oh shit so do you use lights potions in raid? I didn’t even think about that
hot shell
I will probably try to log all my fights from the this upcoming saturday and try...
Sounds like a plan.
Do yourself the favor, if anyone tells you "xy is low, you suck" and cant explain what you did wrong, ignore them. Thats called bullying
cursive shore
I'm assuming mountain thane is still better at the moment?
worn yoke
Also if you are playing against pad classes in raid you’ll never compete bc shit...
parsing on fury is dependent on the other 13 DPS in your group, not your own talent
sullen tendon
dude bear druids are so absudly strong now lol
modest condor
what changed for them anyway?
sullen tendon
less ST more aoe
modest condor
they were doing crazy dps in incarn before but that was the only time
now they're just doing giga dps the whole dungeon
sullen tendon
mangle nerfed thrash buffed
also theres some 3 button build going around right now
it sjust like thrash moonfire iron fur
that sti
I jsut 96 parsed a 19 pit because we finished 6 minutes ahead of timer
bear did like 150k overall
bitter palm
yeah thats getting shot
sullen tendon
but brew isnt??
they need to keep this level of tank
and buff others and give more defensives
sullen tendon
I thought s3 of tww was baad with veangence DH but i absolutely hate this meta in midnight
im so luckyi found a bear
bitter palm
idk i havent played with a bear yet but i saw squish in noxivs group
undone flower
yeah thats getting shot
It’s a build where they don’t take their apex talents, it’s 100% changed
bitter palm
ye thats why i said it
undone flower
Blizz hate this move
modest condor
love it when specs dont take their apex talents
sullen tendon
wtf you arent using the apex talents that we didnt make strong enough???
stop having fun!
they did hte same thing with MW didnt they
they used to not take their apex
bitter palm
ye mw doesnt play apex
bitter palm
or maybe does now
modest condor
doesnt resto druid also have some build that doesnt take apex?
undone flower
Mw was bc it was bugged sometime it deactivated for the whole key
sullen tendon
they just arent fun and dont do enough damage to justify it
if it was fun im sure peopel woudl takeit either way
bitter palm
Mw was bc it was bugged sometime it deactivated for the whole key
ye its hilarious
sullen tendon
ours is a great exampelk wehre wetake it cause its just pure stats that we love but it doesnt really do much else
its just rage reduc and stats
sullen tendon
but then you have enh with a cool apex tree but it does shit dam and makes the rotation wierd so they just dont run it
I honestly hope they start reworking apex talents soon
i dont want to go the entire expansion with it uchanged
bitter palm
i assume they will
cause john midnight doesnt take it if u dont play collapsing star
or something
in pvp u dont play it cause u can never cast it
afaik
sullen tendon
big tell for the class designers
sullen tendon
we designed it so your class cant do what its ssuppoed to
sullen tendon
x spell always crits
lmao another thing stoeln from us by dh
now they get real reck
bitter palm
mm has aimed shot always crits
weird arms doesnt have it
for ms
considering how wild the delta is for crits and non crits
like u can send a 2x ep ms
and it hits for 50k
at 285
low moat
someone have an arcui for fury?
final vapor
Raging blow as slyer
winter shoal
No
There is essentially no situation where that's correct
Wherever you're getting that information is lying to you
final vapor
It was like this last seasoj
hot shell
....
olive wraith
Friend lmao
hot shell
Press heroic strike
olive wraith
Things change
winter shoal
We no longer have last season's set bonus
hot shell
Trust, was good in classic
winter shoal
It was like this last seasoj
neat gazelle
so crushing blow as like a filler
winter shoal
so crushing blow as like a filler
You'd prefer to avoid pressing it but sometimes you have to
stiff carbon
For Slayer, is Massacre what people are giving up for Enraged Regen?
olive wraith
Rb/cb basically if you can’t hit anything
olive wraith
For Slayer, is Massacre what people are giving up for Enraged Regen?
Maybe not anymore
Cruelty instead?
winter shoal
For Slayer, is Massacre what people are giving up for Enraged Regen?
Used to be but I haven't checked since exe buff
fluid agate
is fury slayer broken now? it somehow sims higher on multitarget 10 targets than colossus for me
olive wraith
Not sure
olive wraith
is fury slayer broken now? it somehow sims higher on multitarget 10 targets than...
No
final vapor
We no longer have last season's set bonus
So thane is better?
winter shoal
So thane is better?
Thane is better at some things, but that has nothing to do with BT vs RB
olive wraith
So thane is better?
Generally sure
winter shoal
BT is higher priority than RB for both slayer and thane
In single target and multi target
spare flame
BT is higher priority than RB for both slayer and thane
aint that the norm
is this the slayer build yall using?
winter shoal
aint that the norm
Yes, the person I was responding to was operating on very outdated information
winter shoal
is this the slayer build yall using?
If that's the one on wowhead then yes
I p sure I have stance mastery though
warm crag
@winter shoal did you see hava
warm crag
play along or you will regret it
modest condor
lmao owned
hot shell
Anyone know belt Cata stats from the top of their head
warm crag
crit/haste innit
did you see lowkey w secured the victory against abrahams
hot shell
Wasnt that for boots
winter shoal
did you see lowkey w secured the victory against abrahams
Is this deadlock
warm crag
warm crag
Is this deadlock
yes
hot shell
Sadge
warm crag
grr
winter shoal
(I'm bad at it)
winter shoal
(therefore game itself is bad)
warm crag
because you will press N and then arms
idk im not gonna play for a while cause they killed venator
45% wr looking ass
winter shoal
venator like the bow in runescape?
warm crag
ye
hot shell
because you will press N and then arms
Show me your 4k rio and ill dew it
winter shoal
crossover episode moment
warm crag
Show me your 4k rio and ill dew it
i am not mentally ill sorry
i got 3k score because my friend asked me if i wanted to boost and it turned out to be a 3k score boost
winter shoal
i am not mentally ill sorry
aren't you eur*pean
warm crag
thats an affix not an illness
hot shell
Players below 3.4k are not real
winter shoal
Players below 3.4k are not real
Played with a 3.4k spriest in a NPX earlier who did 100k overall
282 or some shit
winter shoal
in a nerubar palace x
I was playing fury so yes
warm crag
like if you dont turbo waste crests u have to be 283
hot shell
Played with a 3.4k spriest in a NPX earlier who did 100k overall
Boosting is real
neat gazelle
does anyone have a ellsmere ui profile I can import?
winter shoal
he said yesterday that he swapped to ellesmere
neat gazelle
that would be awesome if @smoky vale could!
warm crag
maybe that explains why hes so washed now
smoky vale
bro its an abomination
bitter palm
warrior57
smoky vale
let me relog
neat gazelle
anything is better than mine, i fucked it up bad hahah
bitter palm
respond to ur chatters...
warm crag
can we actually start a petition to ban gio
bitter palm
mr strimmer..
warm crag
ive had enough of him after he swapped away from schnappi
warm crag
respond to ur chatters...
why dont u chat in my streams? nerd
bitter palm
ive had enough of him after he swapped away from schnappi
too powerful
i think
too much skyhold power
brittle crow
Players below 3.4k are not real
i hit 3k last week :3
hot shell
let me relog
What in the actual fuck kinda goonstuff am i watching
Thought ill enjoy some warr gameplay on the side just to see some yaoi
smoky vale
i just did a key as slayer in windrunner
bitter palm
why dont u chat in my streams? nerd
when was the last time u were red name...
smoky vale
its what i do when i cant get into keys
warm crag
week 3 actually cause i got to kill paladins
bitter palm
its what i do when i cant get into keys
what
is this ui
AHHAHAAHHAAHHA
WHAT IS THIS UI
smoky vale
actual spaceship
hot shell
So many options
hot shell
i hit 3k last week :3
Youre not real 
warm crag
how can you sit there and alternate wow and whatever gacha you can get your hand on foir 6 hours
@bitter palm do i want guidon on slarms m+
winter shoal
how can you sit there and alternate wow and whatever gacha you can get your hand...
mental illness
smoky vale
mental illness
^^^
bitter palm
<@692035495718551564> do i want guidon on slarms m+
no
warm crag
why not
bitter palm
its ahh
idk it like doesnt align with anything ever
as colo u always have it on ravager and ravager is ur big powerful button in aoe
smoky vale
does your name contain colossus arms warrior
no just 57
bitter palm
no just 57
smoky vale
i kept forgetting to switch off it
olive wraith
Maybe you’re a Chad
frigid temple
Your sim doenst have pot+flask is that it?
rotund ginkgo
friend said maybe the voidstorm buff applies in outside world
@frigid temple im not pot-flasking
im doing the sim that im doing
no buffs
frigid temple
maybe sims dont have war buffs implemented?
frigid temple
??
half linden
fellas are we sending slayer or thane for the dragons in voidspire (H)
olive wraith
8% isn’t it. But ya that doesn’t give you 12k
sullen dove
is a tuskarr training dummy not several levels lower than you
sullen dove
did you also use no potion and flask and food
edgy widget
77k sim but i do 90k?
what exactly is the issue here?
edgy widget
cause this tells me nothing
rotund ginkgo
did you also use no potion and flask and food
yeah
@sullen dove ur correct
silvermoon dummies i did 76k
rotund ginkgo
what exactly is the issue here?
that i did an amount of damage that is above even the highest iteration of my sims