fury

[warm crag]

#updates-midnight has a post detailing changes from the buffs

[swift hull]

Anyway, thank you for your replies, I'll take a look.

[drifting token]

you can find rotation changes here #updates-midnight message which gasp just so happens to be written by the same guy who writes the wowhead guide.

[warm crag]

sim how much a 20 crest save is worth for you, for me a socket/bonus roll is worth more than a 20 crest save

[junior crag]

yye gonna do that now :)))

[radiant plank]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/sargeras/archimtiros heres the guide writer

I can assure you he plays this class

[blissful delta]

LOL

[lime musk]

so now which is better, thane or slayer?

[blissful delta]

my job here is done gg ez day

[lavish sierra]

@axekandi are you a bot

[warm crag]

where'd they go

[drifting token]

#updates-midnight

[timid tide]

I assume the rotation on wowhead has been changed? or hasn't been tweaked based on the new buffs

[lime musk]

ohh ty :D

[turbid gate]

is mythic chimeraus better for thane or slayer now? logs shows that both specs are doing fine, i would assume thane is still better??

[sly pasture]

Thane is a pad spec

so if you wanna pad go for it

[swift hull]

@turbid gate thane better i think

[lyric panther]

adds have like 10% shield left due to ranged by time they're gathered anyway now

[turbid gate]

i mean i heroic leap there anyways

pad is life

[timid tide]

I've always had issues with chim's adds, coz if i leap and go pew pew i get aggro before the tank and everyone is having a bad time

[warm crag]

wipe your raid to slow down reclear 💪 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[turbid gate]

tanks issue, replace

[turbid gate]

why would they wipe

[timid tide]

When tanks are the raidlead's pets, it's hard to go against them

[warm crag]

blowing up the opposing melee camp

[turbid gate]

if rangeds are standing where the adds are coming from then thats on them

and melee sohuld not be on that side anyways

but in the back hitting the big one

[warm crag]

fucking up madness pathing etc

[thorny jewel]

Last night's raid felt pretty good, no. 1 in mythic Imperator and, really great, no. 4 in mythic Vor, that's up from dead last dps last week. Unholy DK still top on Vor. I fucked up on Chimaerus so nothing there.

[warm crag]

pad if you want but you are factually griefing reclear

[turbid gate]

tf

[timid tide]

Ground current, that got 50% is lighthing strikes, right?

[nocturne wadi]

With slayer build?

[thorny jewel]

I did slayer last night in mythic Chim, felt better than thane last week.

[slender badger]

Same. Tank in my group is a wheelchair DK 🙂

[ornate gust]

If I want to play Thane in keys, when I press sudden death?

[south kayak]

It's the AoE portion of it

[digital mauve]

Good question

[timid tide]

I just did MGT +15 to test out things. Pressed execute whenever SD procced. Overall I did 150k but really messed my rotation coz i was overthinking Exe and RB buffs

[south kayak]

I think it's very high prio after the buffs

But what do I know

[blissful delta]

the rotation didnt change for thane

[digital mauve]

More than BT/BB/Rampage/TB?

[blissful delta]

exe prio change is for slayer

[timid tide]

So right now it did 5% of my overal dps in a +15. Same as before buffs, same as my auto attack, that got buffed

[timid tide]

In thane? No. I press it over RB for sure, but not over two stacks of Blast and BB/bt

[drifting token]

Thane priority did not change

[south kayak]

My bad then

[ivory topaz]

hi all is there anyway to change my rage bar color when my rage hits 100 on sensei resource bars?

[mellow smelt]

Opener is different on Maxroll guide and Wowhead guide for Thane AOE. Which is correct or does Fury opener not matter too much?

[opaque mortar]

I don't think SD procs is even on thane prior list. Literally just execute and it's low

[ivory topaz]

my brains too smooth i need dem crayon colors

[drifting token]

execute on the list includes SD procs

[timid tide]

Just throw in an exe if SD is close to fall off

[sly pasture]

how do you get that rage bar I see in people's UIs with a line on the 110 mark

[opaque mortar]

That's what I meant Joe

[sly pasture]

would save me doing maths every 2 seconds

[opaque mortar]

As in no different for SD or not

[opaque mortar]

What is the max roll opener?

[wind ether]

execute buffs rampage dmg and procs lightning strike

[timid tide]

I've always taken these guides, as just guides. Sure, I'm not the best around and my rotation sucks like 50% of the time, but I'd rather have BT before OF, just for the dot buff. Also want to clap before anything else, if it's an aoe fight, just so my bt/ramapge can hit multiple targets

[drifting token]

Im aware of that

[timid tide]

How? Execute restores the most rage, btw, so it's kinda nice to press

[wind ether]

fury tree last trait line

forgot what it’s called

but also we over cap quite a bit

it’s hard not to overcap

[pastel spoke]

how good is slayer in m+ now ? still worse ?

[timid tide]

Ah, exec.wrath

[wind ether]

with our apex

[drifting token]

#updates-midnight slightly below thane but close enough to pick whataver you want.

[mellow smelt]

Opener on Maxroll is:
Ava/reck -> charge -> rampage -> TB -> BB -> Odyns -> rampage

[ornate gust]

I just returned to the game last week.

[wind ether]

i reckon it’d be pretty good with haste instead of mastery

but nobody is built for it

rn

[fresh cave]

i miss the good ol' RB spam

[wind ether]

i miss onslaught

rb might be back with the new slayer

it’s hard to say

[drifting token]

Its not

[fresh cave]

nah it's not

still hits like a dry sock

[wind ether]

i dunno in pve but in pvp it might be

[drifting token]

Numbers have already been ran, nothing is hard to say

we're not guessing here

[supple glen]

is anyone even taking anything other than gaze from vault and doesnt go with 2 bonusroll items instead

[wind ether]

sims are okay for a baseline

[pastel spoke]

k ty do you have an actual slayer m+ build

[wind ether]

but they don’t define meta

that’s why rwf guilds don’t sim too often

during the race

[drifting token]

lol

[wind ether]

no it probably sucks

[fresh cave]

they play on another level than most of us

[wind ether]

in generla sims are pretty unreliable for m+

like

[supple glen]

is this a cope

[novel rivet]

there's no way you are sussing out 1% difference between things based on vibes/logs from 5 pulls

[wind ether]

your sim bis is definitely not always gonna be your downtime cleave route dps

[supple glen]

i mean sims arent everything ofc, fight pacing and matching cooldowns are a huge part

[wind ether]

but in general it’s still the best thing

[wind ether]

that’s all i do

vibes

[neat gazelle]

whats everyones take on fury and arms in mythic plus? are they about even now?

[loud zinc]

Thane: Thunder Blast @ 2 stacks > Bloodbath/Bloodthirst > Rampage @ 80+ rage > Thunder Blast> Rampage > Sudden Death > Raging Blow > Thunder Clap > Whirlwind

[novel rivet]

well you are following random walk then, variance takes you in random directions and you think you have reasons to do stuff

[opaque mortar]

Have not seen that. Personally I like wow heads better. Filling in with BB or TC if no TB procs but idk

[fresh cave]

i just do m+ for vault so rarely run anything above +10 where you could even time a keystone without half of the talents

[wind ether]

i won 6 games as a row on slayer and now my mmr is too high to find another game the wait time is gone because my slayer sent my mmr to the moon

i need to play thane and lose some games so i can queue

[supple glen]

theyre fine, arms is giga under certain conditions, getting invites may take a while

[drifting token]

Thane higher overall, colo arms better funnel dmg for prio targets. Whatever your team comp needs more.

[pastel spoke]

@drifting token did the slayer+ build change

[drifting token]

No

[wind ether]

thane is just better in everything

[loud zinc]

Sudden Death only spikes in prio on Slayer

[neat gazelle]

@drifting token thanks joe! so fury would do a bit more overrall in a key is what youre saying?

[wind ether]

thane is so good

[supple glen]

is this carried by leaping into enemies and bstorming

[neat gazelle]

i only have expierence in fury so my hope was to play fury haha

[loud zinc]

It's definitely behind in pure ST

[wind ether]

this is carried by the fact that battlegroundnblitz is a joke of a gamemode

[opaque mortar]

I feel like using OF later is a waste of cdr from rampage but

[drifting token]

Then run fury, everything is close enough now it's largely preference

[wind ether]

u can get 2800 mmr with ur eyes closed

[supple glen]

its fine, arms needs a shaman, huge pulls, a tank that knows how to play around an arms etc. fury is pretty consistent

[wind ether]

just press the button that lights up

nothing else to it

[supple glen]

isnt that like all 10s

[neat gazelle]

i just swapped back to warrior from a caster. couldnt take the squishyness lmao

[wind ether]

not really it’s like 3600

[supple glen]

i have problem getting invites for 12+ with 281 ilvl

[wind ether]

i think r1 cutoff is here

[neat gazelle]

my main has high io, so hoping that helps me as i gear this guy lol

[loud zinc]

because we don't have buffs for anything that isn't Phys Comp. community dumb

[supple glen]

sorry are we talking m+ or pvp

wait mmr is arena nvm

[wind ether]

i’m ilvl 260 in pve

idk any m+ stuff this season

invite me to +12

i’ll carry

[loud zinc]

i don't even apply to groups that don't have a lust anymore. i know i'm not getting an invite if that slot isn't filled

[supple glen]

yeah but i refuse to believe that i dont have 5-10 ilvls over everyone else if i do my keys on a tuesday night on my "main"

[wind ether]

you gotta stand out man you gotta whisper the guy some encouragement like

“multi rwf blizzcon champion 4k exp”

just hope they don’t check

[neat gazelle]

any warrior im with tho does great damage.

[loud zinc]

you'd be surprised. i'm 282 on my fury, and even i can struggle to get invites

[wind ether]

facts

warrior is hard not to damage on

[supple glen]

also the damage is probably done, warrior unplayable for rest of xpac bc it was bad at the start

[wind ether]

compared to my arcane mage i’m thinking about nothing

[loud zinc]

ilvl isn't everything. people cross check IO and some sweaties check accessible logs

[supple glen]

im talking about 281 kek

[wind ether]

282 is crazy for 12s

surely that’s over the top

[loud zinc]

oh yeah i only do 12s when i just want a quick key to bonus roll (PoS)

[wind ether]

just saying the state of the game when people expect 282 applicants for their 12 keys

we are avoiding the gameplay here

[loud zinc]

the struggle is definitely real tho in terms of getting into keys for 15s bc if you're behind the pack on IO, you don't get invites

[supple glen]

no they dont

but it seems like theyd pref 274 buffclasses

or they NEED the lust

[wind ether]

i run 2s with a freshly dinged priest at 2k

sometimes you lose

and it’s fun because you’re playing the game

man

i can’t sit in lfg

this is my crux

i’ll always suck at pve

i don’t have what it takes

[loud zinc]

most people just build groups with:

• Tank
• Lust
• UH DK/Demo Lock
• Brez (if no UH and Tank doesn't have)

makes it tough as a warrior if you aren't providing value from B Shout

[supple glen]

do people in the tool see my equip or bag ilvl

[wind ether]

equip id assume

if it’s from battle net api

or wow addon api

[supple glen]

gotta cheese more than

[odd crater]

Anyone else loving Slayer again?

[loud zinc]

yes

[ornate gust]

Big thank you 😊

[supple glen]

no i died of boreout

[wind ether]

YES! but i’m not gonna lie i was pretty used to never pressing hamstring again

i hate this thing

[odd crater]

Me and our Thane warrior

😄

[wind ether]

why is it a global

[wind ether]

legendary

good work

[neat gazelle]

mountain thane isbetter than slayer in m+ right?

[supple glen]

what is this screenshot supposed to say

[wind ether]

ya thane is just giga busted

[loud zinc]

nice parse. is that ilvl bracketed?

[scarlet swift]

Still feels weak for 275

[wind ether]

it’s purple parse

it’s honest work

[supple glen]

🫃

[wind ether]

i can fix it

type in the custom app

[loud zinc]

81st percentile for all Fury Warriors

good pic

[wind ether]

scale_to_itemlevel=350

[scarlet swift]

lol

[river nimbus]

I snagged some solid parses with slayer after the buffs.

[ashen tendon]

bro my 286 dk with 3.9k rio wasnt getting invited to 12s this morning, people just get 5000 signups

[supple glen]

bro he is posting anecdotal evidence about being better than thane to prove his point

[wind ether]

WOAH

[loud zinc]

GOATED

[wind ether]

this is sample size = ?

99 parses are usually PI

[river nimbus]

I had 100 on Lura but it didnt hold.

[supple glen]

doesnt even show the filters

[odd crater]

You're reading too much into it. It's just showing both of our warriors on top of our guilds chart

[river nimbus]

its only heroic. so its meh.

[wind ether]

if you get too many PIs it’ll invalidate the parse

[loud zinc]

bro a pink is a pink

[wind ether]

you can’t 100 parse like that legitimately

people sandbag it

they are doing the fight for the parse

[loud zinc]

were you vantused for that?

[river nimbus]

no vantus.

[loud zinc]

SHEEEESH

[ashen tendon]

he vantused 2 bosses

[river nimbus]

I think i got a lot of lucky procs.

[pastel geyser]

Man Crown is rough. Why did they have to change the color of the obelisk lines? I kept getting sniped last night because everything on the platform is fucking PURPLE

[loud zinc]

i do feel like MF is a really juicy fury fight

slayer being competitive again makes it even better

[wind ether]

this is how good i am at playing the ffxiv version of fury

who wants me to lead their raid

[pastel geyser]

Man Ninja is way harder lol. Unless they gutted it. I haven’t played it since Endwalker.

[wind ether]

ninja is harder than sam?

maybe

it depends

100% of ninja is way harder

but sam is hard too

[pastel geyser]

Than fury I mean

[wind ether]

i mean

[supple glen]

how many buttons does the rotation have there

[wind ether]

a lot more

[supple glen]

i picked up fury bc im used to warrior and i dont like it lmao

[wind ether]

but the gcd is slow

[supple glen]

guess it sucks to pick it up right after a big pruning

[ashen tendon]

gcd being slow doesnt matter when you have ogcd buttons to chain

[wind ether]

you don’t have any double weaves as sam

[ashen tendon]

ff14 doesnt have any less apm than WoW really

oh

[wind ether]

it has way less apm

ffxiv is a dance

[supple glen]

no unique buttons

i cba with the 3+1 fury buttons atm

[ashen tendon]

I only played tank in that game and warrior in ff14 deffo wasnt that much less apm than WoW warrior at the time

[pastel geyser]

Is TCJ still a thing? With the not moving?

[supple glen]

that make up the main rota

[wind ether]

wow is more of a hand check and an impromptu reaction based thing

ffxiv is a pure dance

you learn the moves

you execute it

[ashen tendon]

granted I only played shadowbringers

and did 2 ultimates then quit

🫃🏾

[wind ether]

nice

[supple glen]

whats a gcd in ff

[ashen tendon]

2.5

[pastel geyser]

Ya. Wow raiding def more reactive. Saladbar (the first one) reminded me a lot of a FF fight.

[supple glen]

damn

[ashen tendon]

unless it changed

[wind ether]

it took me ages to do ultimates

[ashen tendon]

but like I said most classses have ogcd buttons

[wind ether]

it was harder than anything i’ve done in wow

[supple glen]

i c

[wind ether]

but i’m not a raider

[ashen tendon]

that they weave between globals

[wind ether]

yeah

[ashen tendon]

we did one extreme trial then went straight into ucob as our first raid

[wind ether]

how did you go into ucob without savage

you don’t even unlock it

[ashen tendon]

it was an old xpac ultimate it wasnt neccessary to do anything to unlock it as far as I can remember

maybe they changed something

it was 6 years ago

cant remember that well

[wind ether]

oh yeah if it wasn’t tier then sure

i like how ultimates are in ffxiv

they’re always hard

never redundant

[unkempt oasis]

That is untrue

Uwu is a joke now

[wind ether]

uwu is easier than savage

lol

[unkempt oasis]

Ucob is easy

[ashen tendon]

uwu was kind of a joke back when I did it too

compared to ucob at least

[wind ether]

ya ucob was hard

[ashen tendon]

Oh yeah I did e9-12s too

[wind ether]

i didn’t find it easy

[ashen tendon]

but this was before TEA was even released

so idk if it got easier since

[unkempt oasis]

It was hard. But 0 damage checks anymore.

TEA is now brain dead too

[wind ether]

it’s just a dance

when you can do the fight you can do the fight

it’s not like wow with non deterministic mechanics

[loud zinc]

i did ucob back in like 2019-2020

all i really remember was the balls boss and the one dragon boss that slams the arena

both felt challenging

[ashen tendon]

I thought Garm was Garms for a second

@tidal kindle why do you have an impostor

[unkempt oasis]

No

[wind ether]

it’s crazy to me how ffxiv can be the worst managed and worst maintained poorly designed mmo that exists but there’s a few guys who work there just dropping these mindblowingly well designed boss encounters

[ashen tendon]

I hated the fact that mechanics were not visual ques at all

if you looked for visuals you were fucked

had to look at the cast bar for snapshots

[wind ether]

i used cactbot

[loud zinc]

the balls boss was literally impossible for the people i played with, yeah. managing a mechanic that only shows up as a debuff on you is hard to teach to people that never experienced tank swaps before

[wind ether]

it’s dbm

[ashen tendon]

hear its better these days

[ashen tendon]

exaflares wanting you to run into them before the explosion was gone in golden bahamut too

was a real good mindfuck too

[wind ether]

try doing them from new zealand

ffxiv doesn’t have lag compensation like wow

[loud zinc]

what i want are more boss encounters like mage tower to come back.

[wind ether]

my visuals are delayed from the impact

[loud zinc]

nullaeus isnt really challenging enough. we need better hard solo boss content

[ashen tendon]

pretty sure people ran alexander or something to fix that no?

[wind ether]

nah it doesn’t fix the delay in aoe

that just makes it so you can weave

[ashen tendon]

thats not really a NZ issue thats an issue in general with that dogshit game engine tbh

[wind ether]

but it’s because the gcd thing is legitimately hard coded in as part of the animations, like your spell queue and weave isn’t a network thing, alexander basically just sets the animation lock to zero

it makes triple weaving possible

when in reality it shouldn’t be

i think fflogs started invalidating parses with triple weaves

[unborn musk]

He is really nice, much better than the TWW S3 boss was, where everything was a one-shot

[ashen tendon]

Kyveza was goated

actually forced you to do the fight well

[mossy fox]

easy does not mean better

[loud zinc]

yeah idk i don't think one shots are always bad but they're also not always good. i want mechanics that are engaging to deal with

[ashen tendon]

Whats this guy doing here...

[mossy fox]

kyveza was the best of the 4 bosses we got

what

[ashen tendon]

wtf based take from crit

[wind ether]

for real

i never enjoy pve but that fight was fun

[ashen tendon]

Kyveza was the only one that gave any sense of achievement

cuz you actually had to do the mechanics well and do dps

if you did it early

[unborn musk]

Agree, but if you a dummas like me who HAS to make mistakes, fights like Kyvessa ?? Are impossible

[wind ether]

you could play blood do

dk

[ashen tendon]

I was a fdk enjoyer

8min fight instead of 13min blood fight

[wind ether]

i haven’t logged onto my dk since last xpac

i really should try blood

i wanna get into m+ but as a dps i cba

on tank it would be fun

fdk is pumping now

was played in the awc

deleted people

as a warrior you need to disarm remorseless winter or it’s over

i mean pillar

[raven wagon]

i just want one warrior dps to be good in raid

[unborn musk]

I mean, Nullaeus was ...

Intrerrupt the one-shot, spell-reflect the slow, dump cooldowns, keep CDs for adds, slowly kite the boss around as to not get sucked by the walking vortex. That's more involved than some dungeon bosses

[ashen tendon]

throwback to s1 sl where you would just grip people together, blinding sleet and chill streak

and chill streak didnt break blinding sleet

so they just diedf

[wind ether]

fdk mains are chads

for real we went through some tough times on frost

if you play it you deserve a good season

[unkempt oasis]

more like griefers

playing a class that bad with other people...

[zenith wind]

do i need to since bladestorm with recklessness/odyns fury or i just send it?

[loud zinc]

You don't really kite the boss that much tho. It's not like in Xylem mage tower challenge where you had to kite the boss slowly but dps him down as an enrage mechanic while also juggling target prio when the adds spawn in the same period.

Nullaeus was really predictable in the mechanics, and that made it feel way less chaotic and challenging. The adds also don't really add a ton of complexity--they just need to die because they do extra damage to you

[wind ether]

wanna talk about grief take a look at this seasons duelist illusion

balls on my gnome

[unkempt oasis]

alotta balls

[unborn musk]

Yes, I agree, my point is that for my skill level it felt good.

[dim knoll]

as fury slayer should you allways be using blade storm with recklessness or just press them on CD and allign them for massive pulls ?

[queen aspen]

I've ran a +16 as Slayer and I think I might like it better than MT damn

[loud zinc]

that's fair. i would've liked a harder mode

[queen aspen]

little spins are so good

[unkempt oasis]

You can send bladestorm, or sync with recklessness, and it doesn't really matter.

[wind ether]

bladestorm gives you max overwhelm stacks so its a good time to do a ton of damage

[unkempt oasis]

Recklessness for burst

[loud zinc]

depends on cd. you send it if there's more than i think 30 sec on Reck cd

[wind ether]

but i dont think staggering your cooldowns is something feasible

[unkempt oasis]

The only time holding bladestorm really matters is if you can cleave multiple targets

[wind ether]

or if you arent enraged

[somber eagle]

damn those buffs for slayer fury are good, felt really good on 17 MC

[wind ether]

if you are enraged then the bloodthirsts will refresh it

but otherwise it can drop

[loud zinc]

nicely done

[real cape]

Immense.

[unkempt oasis]

I can't wait to parse 99 this week and be above the green people

[safe orbit]

fury or arms better now for M+?

[loud zinc]

shoutout your group mate for hitting the god parse on enhance too

[somber eagle]

not many prases on ench

so easy to do

[loud zinc]

true but they did it best XD

[real cape]

Enh just got buffed, ye. I hadn't actually seen any this season.

[wind ether]

wouldnt that be 10%

[somber eagle]

y

[loud zinc]

not necessarily a simple answer. fury is self sufficient and easier to play with a random group; arms does better when you design the key around it

[somber eagle]

fury has better defs

overall

[loud zinc]

feel like arms also has really strong defensives tho

DBTS is really nice

[drifting token]

frusy has no defs, it's just tanky as fuck

[nocturne jungle]

"or keep Enraged Regen and use RB > Rend for a ~0.2% drop."
What is RB?

[somber eagle]

yep

[wind ether]

stance mastery is giga

[somber eagle]

plus giga leach

[wind ether]

its massive

[somber eagle]

ur passively healing as fury

[wind ether]

yup

[unkempt oasis]

you're passively healing
I click off leech so healers can adjust

[loud zinc]

i do really enjoy stance mastery tho

[wind ether]

me too

im using it with death wish for fun

you can easily proc it most hits

with 5 deathwish stacks

and then you basically have 35% dr

[loud zinc]

having my bar move like 20-30% max when the healers crap their pants for everyone else is satisfying

[unborn musk]

10% less damage taken, 5% inc stamina, from Thane and 10% inc life from IV from Thane

[dusk hamlet]

where do we send our bonus rolls generally?

[loud zinc]

PoS for me

[unborn musk]

MT: ring, weapon and other good items for catalyst

[loud zinc]

but Fury is a little different because you get a few different pieces from MT

[crude crater]

PoS has arms stuff, Magister's has fury stuff. Raids for trinks

[edgy bone]

guys my brain gonna explose its fury slayer or than now the best one in raid??? PLEASE HELP HAHAHAHA

[wind ether]

rallying is a defensive too since bloodthirst is % max hp heal

you heal more

[loud zinc]

I already had everything tier Myth, so there wasn't really a huge bonus to bonus rolling on MT for me

[quiet geyser]

Both

[wind ether]

im 260 ilvl in pve

[loud zinc]

made more sense to just juice up Arms, deal with the slightly sub optimal weapon drop

[drifting token]

its boss dependent but if its hurting your brain that much just play the one you enjoy more, it's close enough.

[wind ether]

but i have a ton of myth crests

i dunno what to do with them

u get them from pvp above 2100

[wind ether]

so many for no reason

[honest trail]

You like reaping?

[wind ether]

you even get myth crests for losing

above 2100

for some reason

[edgy bone]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MY BRAIN HAHAHAHA

[drifting token]

bruh

[dusk harbor]

Dont lie Warriors dont have a brain

[wary salmon]

[edgy bone]

bro in the name of the cells that left in my head i need to know what hero spec is the best 😂

[dusk harbor]

The one you Play better

[drifting token]

Again there is no one single best answer, it changes per boss but it's close enough to not matter

[edgy bone]

omg let me die

[wind ether]

thane is better

for most purposes

[dusk harbor]

Thane ist better except when Slayer ist better

[edgy bone]

https://tenor.com/view/stroke-cool-gif-27292157

[tardy cipher]

Play what you want, I like and perform better as Slayer, so I play Slayer, simple

[clear crescent]

what fury build we going for now for m+?

[loud zinc]

contextual. thane is better in sustained aoe, slayer better in single target

but they're not far apart tbh

[olive wraith]

Wowhead ones

[honest trail]

Whatever you want to play

[wind ether]

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/mountain-thane/m+

theres 10 slayers in the top 50

its doable

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t murlock have troll builds occasionally

[wind ether]

its just an aggregate

itll capture your logout

i had fishing enchant as the top mage pvp gloves enchant

in df

[teal slate]

im still using the thane and slayer build noxiv ran/runs and i find they perform similarly. just finding i gotta swap depending on the dungeon. 180k overall as thane in a 17 mgt but only 130k as thane in a 17 skyreach. ran another 17 SR as slayer and did 179k overall. just play around till you figure out what works for you

[clear crescent]

okok thx

[teal slate]

both feel a lot better obviously. just slayer max ive seen aoe wise was 500k but the ST is nice. and ive always kinda prefered slayer to thane

[clear crescent]

will try slayer for a change to se how it feels

[teal slate]

just dont be like me and forget to maintain whirlwind buff haha

[queen aspen]

slayer feels really good

sadly slayer is less tanky than MT and doesn't bring more damage (except on ST) so probably gonna stay MT season bois

[queen aspen]

but the little spinnies are addictive af

[fleet yarrow]

I love seeing

reap so high

[teal slate]

yeah i find slayer is situational.. i like it in skyreach because its single target or 2 target cleave which slayer still does very well

on boss fights

and we use a monk tank obviously so he transendence transfers back to the start of the dungeon pulling everything to the first platform to us. so thats reallly the only big pull then it gets smaller groups

[loud zinc]

Idk Slayer feels just about as good as any other key. Definitely does well in Seat and PoS as well

Maybe MC you go MT

[teal slate]

yeah i feel anything with consistent big pulls thane wins, but some of the others slayer pumps

[loud zinc]

NPX could go either way tbh too

[teal slate]

as i said its situational and how well you play it

[loud zinc]

like you miss out on some big early lust damage, but then you DOMINATE the beam queen

[loud zinc]

this is good design imo. i really dislike how polarized it is for Arms, where you pretty much ONLY go Colo when big target count and Slayer when little target count

[teal slate]

yeah i dislike arms in its current state they need the dragonflight ret paladin treatment

[echo rapids]

Haha my first m+ last night back as slayer was a disaster, I’d gotten way to used to thane keeping up IWW without much thought

[teal slate]

its rough haha, no more weakaura to scream at you either

[hot shell]

Sensei classressource bar is still an addon id recommend everyone to use

[sly eagle]

what does it do?

[hot shell]

It gives you a rage, HP and whirldinw tracker bar

[drifting token]

basically like an old weakaura

[sly eagle]

ah nice

[fair void]

Hey, can someone help me with my vault choice?

Should I take the Skyreach Prism in mythic (I already have it in heroic), or take the token for an extra roll and get my legs in mythic from the Terrace (mine are currently heroic)?

[dense elbow]

283 before I swap out LFR Aln and open vault

Your ass is grass

[loud zinc]

it's a good habit to train your brain to count to 5 & restart the clock every time you slam the ground

[deep ridge]

sorry, warrior brain question: can you craft and equip two embelished blood knight warblades or are you limited to one?

[teal slate]

i mean yeah theres also the wow buff tracker bar

[teal slate]

can have 2 but i wouldnt embellish both

[loud zinc]

they're unique aren't they?

[hot shell]

disgusting

[teal slate]

id grab acranoweave on something

[teal slate]

ive only used stock wow ui stuff that i changed around no more addons just details and simcraft lol

[deep ridge]

so two crafted warblades (only one embellished) and then a arcano-weave craft is better?

[hardy shuttle]

Do we know how the upgrades work next week? Is it just any weapons and any trinkets? Or is there a limited number of uses?

Like will fury get both weapons and both trinkets to 295

[teal slate]

yeah the Str gain from arcanoweave is nice, they originally wanted 2 arcanoweave at endgame but its changed

[hot shell]

THats fine, but the classic ui is a lil bit disgusting

[teal slate]

oh 100% i made it look like bartender

[deep ridge]

got it, thank you

[loud zinc]

Do we know if they 12.0.7 changes to the Personal Resource Manager will include putting numbers on the bars?

[sullen tendon]

Arms needs fervor back

Fervor made it bareable to play

[hot shell]

...what

[sullen tendon]

It’s been ass for 4 expansions because they got rid of how it worked

The old fervor

[modest ravine]

Is it possible to now use slayer or collo build for both ST and MT? Or do I still have to switch depending on bosses

[sullen tendon]

Oh cool my app didn’t uodate chat

I was responding to something from like an hour ago but it loaded to now as I was typing lol

[flint onyx]

Whats best dungeon to spam bonus rolls for naked alt? Pit I assume?

[sullen tendon]

No

Spend rolls on nexus or MT

Nexus has a ton of catalyst pieces and the ring set

[loud zinc]

mt fury; pit arms

[sullen tendon]

Mt has bis weap

Pit has literally 0 pieces fury wants

[drifting token]

Windrunner spire has good trink too

[sullen tendon]

It’s all crit haste gear with like 1 cloak that’s haste vers or something

[loud zinc]

fury can absolutely use the weapon and catalyze half the drops.

[olive wraith]

Real answer is sim

[sullen tendon]

Ok but why would you spend rolls on a dungeon that has mediocre side grade loot instead of bis loot

[olive wraith]

Pick dungeon with most upgrades

[loud zinc]

is weapon BiS? no. is it good? yes

[sullen tendon]

Ok but why would you roll on it

[hot shell]

eery weapon without versatility is bis

[spare steppe]

I’m assuming it a single item upgrade, not a track change

[sullen tendon]

Why would you roll on a not bis weapon instead of bis

[loud zinc]

it’s purely contextual. it depends on what you want. do you want to funnel every drop into fury? do you want to play arms too? what do you currently have?

[spare steppe]

Yall roll on dungeon weapons?

Damnit wrong person

[loud zinc]

i’m focusing on fury, but i get way more value out of pit because i have bis everything BUT weapon from the MT loot table.

[sullen tendon]

1. Yes this is fury chat. 2. No this is fury chat. 3. Not bis.

[dense elbow]

Hah'haa!

[hoary tartan]

Just parsed a 100 on skyreach 18 fury is so back

[teal slate]

how dare you insult my hedgecleaver

[loud zinc]

this is fury chat and plenty of people in here play both dps specs and may have nuanced priorities. not everything is so black and white.

[fair void]

Hey, can someone help me with my vault choice?

Should I take the Skyreach Prism in mythic (I already have it in heroic), or take the token for an extra roll and get my legs in mythic from the Terrace (mine are currently heroic)?

[olive wraith]

He’s a hater don’t mind him

[teal slate]

i mean i dont use my hedgecleaver cause i have myth MC sword but i got the hedgecleaver as back up lol

[sullen tendon]

I call those people traitors in my books

Fotm rerollers

Meta slaves

[olive wraith]

Damn enjoying the game in their way

How awful

[drifting token]

No, nobody can help you with your vault choice because we don't know the entirety of your character's gear list to be able to make that call and you should be simming it.

[dense elbow]

If you didnt know, dont engage with honest discussion with BobbyB

It aint what is going on. Just so you know

[sullen tendon]

If you don’t love me at my worst you don’t deserve me at my best

Fury traitors

[teal slate]

dont want you at either

[spark coral]

hard pass

[sullen tendon]

Go back to arms chat

[teal slate]

ive been a fury warrior for over 20 years go back to bed

[sullen tendon]

Then why do you allow these people to flip flop their allegiances

[dense elbow]

Cause noone cares

[junior oyster]

^

[sullen tendon]

All traitors

[teal slate]

because i dont pay their subs?

[sullen tendon]

You gave up on fury

[olive wraith]

Hey guys what’s the ddh rotation

[blissful delta]

bobby who gave up on you to make you this way

[dense elbow]

BobbyB rant of the day, 2/10, low effort and bait value

[drifting token]

we really talking about allegiances to what version of virtual man you press buttons with on your computer for fun?

[sullen tendon]

The world when it gave up its passion and decided to funnel every aspect of society into one path

[dense elbow]

I mean, to be fair, drawing those lines in the sand is just good fun. Mr Duck

[olive wraith]

Wait till you hear about horde v alliance allegiance

[blissful delta]

i regret saying anything this guy is a lunatic

[sullen tendon]

You are a slave

[modest ravine]

Question: with these buffs is it viable to only play Slsyer or MT? I hate switching between the two for Raids and M+

[blissful delta]

[zenith wind]

quick question, do we have no defensives as fury?

in m+ build

[dense elbow]

Ye, you can keep to one thing. Tho the other options might be marginaly more optimal

[unkempt oasis]

defensives are for cowards

[teal slate]

You can take Regen. It's super easy to talent into it

[olive wraith]

You can play either

[olive wraith]

Also can take stance mastery

[spark coral]

you can spell reflect magic damage, and you can swap into defensive stance

[modest ravine]

Thanks. Just came to Fury from Prot and still learning rotations

[olive wraith]

No problem dude

[dense elbow]

We got tons

Dstance, reflect, VR

You can grab ER for a really solid one too

[zenith wind]

this is wowhead build, is it up to date?

[junior oyster]

Fury is super hard to kill

[olive wraith]

Don’t mention that you’re prot main Bobby will freak

[sullen tendon]

Welcome

[teal slate]

this is my slayer build

with regen

[sullen tendon]

Prot is more respectable than arms

[burnt oxide]

You can get ER and drop massacre, that build is not that suited for high keys due to lack of def

[olive wraith]

No stance?

[teal slate]

no

[frail kernel]

anyone know if i use a reroll token and get an item that is on both fury/arms loot table as well as prot loot table.. does it block it from both tables?

[sullen tendon]

Tanks are the backbone of society

[zenith wind]

does someone have a thana one?

[stone cedar]

So guys, after this patch slayer is ok in MM+ or Thane for ever ?

[dense elbow]

It should block all tables

[zenith wind]

looks easier to play

[olive wraith]

Just use wowhead, then move a point for a defensive if you want

[drifting token]

you just linked it yourself

[teal slate]

i can send you my thane

[zenith wind]

i asume crushing force > stance mastery them right

[sullen tendon]

Thane is better overall but if you have add damage covered in a group slayer may be better if you need prio damage on specific mobs and boss damage

Thane will do more overall damage

[teal slate]

CgEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4DAAAAAAgGDDjZ2WmZmZmxMmZMjZmZWmZGjxsMmZGAAIMwGssZ0YGQmFMjFAzgxAgZGADzMzMMYA

try that

gives you regen

still not stance mastery

[stone cedar]

@sullen tendon thx for the answer !

[zenith wind]

ok, ty vm

[olive wraith]

What’s the best alt catchup Strat for ilvl

[spark coral]

bountiful delves and 6+ mythics?

[unkempt oasis]

delves are so slow

just slam 10s and use rolls

[real cape]

Make friends boost you.

[olive wraith]

Fresh alt friend

[real cape]

If no friends play prot.

[olive wraith]

I’m not doing 10s at 200 ilvl

[unkempt oasis]

Get friends to carry you

[real cape]

Delves into keys as prot.

[dense elbow]

Delves if you got the renown level unlock for HC gear from it. If not, raid into m+ spam

[olive wraith]

How many catalyst do we have now?

[drifting token]

4 renown pieces and a day or two's worth of delves will get you full champ gear

[sullen tendon]

Get carried in heroic raid

[olive wraith]

Solo it for me

[torn nest]

With the new changes to Slayer, do you guys still take mountain thane for keys?

[sullen tendon]

Yes in most cases

It depends what your group needs

Slayer is still really rng dependent and thane is consistent. Slayer would be more useful if you need boss damage over add damage but otherwise thane is better.

Thane still does good boss damage

It’s more if you are struggling in higher keys with boss kill times it may come in useful z

The reap changes kinda make it shit/rng at aoe though

[fleet yarrow]

Honestly got a bit tilted in the key I was doing

because I didn't get a single execution reset for a solid minute

[sullen tendon]

Yea it sucks

Then you get 5 when the mobs are at 15%

[fleet yarrow]

But then dungeon before this I was getting my bladestorm back before my recklessness

so its a give and take

[sullen tendon]

Also it feels like the rampage reap proc is bugged

There’s no way I cast 7 rampages and get 0 reaps

[fleet yarrow]

nah

I have been proccing that mfer

[sullen tendon]

The rampage reap proc chance is stupid

It should just increase with # of targets

Still 20% on bosses

Increased by 5% per target up to 5

Max 45%

Or I guess 49%

40%

[fading sky]

Lol

Bad take

[sullen tendon]

How so

[fading sky]

U cant have high impact

And high procc

[sullen tendon]

Numbers are subjective it could increase or decrease

But 20% feels like ass

[fading sky]

If anythin id prefer proc rate increase on sds

[fleet yarrow]

Yeah I can

[sullen tendon]

Complete rng fest

[fading sky]

Sd is the provider of reap

[grim reef]

My hand hurt when I play fury

[strange drift]

large

[sullen tendon]

So is rampage

Also you just said you can’t have high impact high proc rate but said increase proc rate of sudden death lol

[strange drift]

after 3 dungeons with angerfist in my ears i can say yes they do hurt lol

[sullen tendon]

They are gonna move reap back to bt soon

Every patch they are just going to rotate what activates reap

[floral arrow]

we play with slayer or thane now?

in m+

[lusty perch]

yes

[sullen tendon]

Ask again in 5 minutes

[strange drift]

i mean i played slayer

its cool

i like it more than thane

about numbers

sim it

idk

[floral arrow]

sorry

[sullen tendon]

It’s ok

[lusty perch]

IMO if your group is consistently pulling big, Thane. If its like Skyreach and you're pulling less mobs consistently Slayer will potentially be better. I think Thane will still be best a majority of the time. Idk, will have to do more testing this week.

[olive wraith]

Either are fine

[strange drift]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-wojak-soyjak-soy-jak-truth-gif-10540901418861964264

also play what u like more

test both

[olive wraith]

Just do what you enjoy more

Ye

[strange drift]

preach brother

[fleet yarrow]

Its about playstyle
Either you can be a gigachad Slayer enjoyer
Or a chud Thane player

Either is fine

[strange drift]

blender is sort of back

[olive wraith]

[sullen tendon]

I want to run with guardian druids in higher keys instead of brew

[olive wraith]

Y

[sullen tendon]

Beam tech on nexus would be nice

[smoky vale]

it does more damage

[strange drift]

now i only need to get a neck and omission of light on mythic track oh and gaze from chimerus

[olive wraith]

Do you run mw then?

[smoky vale]

or rsham

[olive wraith]

But then no monk debuff

[sullen tendon]

Bear tank mw enh/ele and other physical dps

Enh changes look nice

[hot shell]

ew

enhancers

[sullen tendon]

Stormbringer on both ele and eng fill pretty much the same niche of popping ascendence and doing a trillion damage and then doing nothing for 2 minutes

But eng is physical and gets the bonuses ele wouldnt

Enh

[olive wraith]

Didn’t bear get nerfs

[teal slate]

very mild ones

[teal slate]

ill never see either of those trinkets on myth track. my clusters dead lol

[warm crag]

mythic has been crossrealm for expansions now

[teal slate]

I know that, hard to find groups to run with consistently when i work in the bush 20-40 days at a time

[olive wraith]

I feel you bud

[warm crag]

dont need a consistent group for those two bosses though

chimaerus is trivial and vorasius is effectively a hc boss

[spark coral]

what do you drop for enraged regen in M+ thane

[dawn swan]

Probably massacre for thane and 1 point out cruelty for slayer

[teal slate]

i linked my build earlier

and yes its massacre cause ew

[spark coral]

oh yeah massacre 100p

i figure going into `7s i should probably get that extra defensive

17s*

[teal slate]

lol i was gunna say 7s i wouldnt even use defensives haha

[spark coral]

those 7s man they clap back lol

[teal slate]

😂 only when I'm healing at my evoker lol

[spark coral]

hahaha

[sullen tendon]

I didn’t start speccing into defensives until like 5/8 19s completed

[spark coral]

i dunno. seems like it wouldnt hurt for me. never a bad idea to save a pug by saving yourself imo. especially after sitting in queue for 30 mins trying to get into a group

[sullen tendon]

30 minutes?!??!

[spark coral]

if im lucky:P

[sullen tendon]

I spent 4 hours applying between 8pm and 12pm last night to get into a single 20

[spark coral]

damn

[modest hollow]

Time Well spent

[sullen tendon]

And then the tank kamikazed everyone on lothraxion by sitting him inside one of the images during his suck phase

And killed 2 people

Then we missed timer by 5 seconds

[teal slate]

Yeah I'm happy I got a solid team, we just rotate in and out cause there's 7 of us. I mean I'm not pushing 20s quite yet but 18s and 19s

[olive wraith]

Gg nt

[dim spindle]

Excuse me?

[dusk harbor]

i want Gladi DPS back xD

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[teal slate]

I've been saying this for awhile lol, was so fun as an off spec

[olive wraith]

I want some burst back

[worn rain]

4 spec gladiator when

[dusk harbor]

when they start rolling out new speccs for the older classes and will be a supporter like class

with Shouts to buff others n stuff

[rich gyro]

well fury is batter now in m+?

[worn rain]

nah f that

sword and board dps all the way

[keen kindle]

We dont need to take paragon from gw2 for warrior

give good dps specs instead ffs

[frigid temple]

So im progging m crown, fury slayer is the play right?

[opaque mortar]

Unless you wanna pad on adds p1? Think about it! Big numbers! Numbers good

[frigid temple]

I have two rets and two dev dh

[undone flower]

P1 adds are excluded in logs

[frigid temple]

I AINT DOING SHIT TO THOSE ADS

[rich gyro]

in m+ fury M

i think

or arms C

[undone flower]

Just zug the minibosses

[frigid temple]

But wait nobody answered me

Slayer right?!?!?

[young swan]

yeah

[rugged cedar]

slayer? i hardly knower

[undone flower]

Yes it is ST fight

[frigid temple]

Thank you king. Have a wonderful and prosperous day

[opaque mortar]

Wowlogs being the fun police again

[worn rain]

logs cringe this season

this is fine change

[undone flower]

Good.

Wcl W

[coarse nest]

Good riddance adds in logs

Shit ruins the vibe

[fleet yarrow]

ye

Sometimes I can understand it?

[coarse nest]

Only guy happy is the one who can take the add pad the easiest

[fleet yarrow]

But it just intentivises toxic padding

[lusty jungle]

toxic padding is part of the game tho

[undone flower]

P1 alleria shitters when you have 1 single boomie

[opaque mortar]

Woah made me go look at crown logs. Wtf is that arcane mage doing up there

[undone flower]

P1 minibosses dmg amp

[coarse nest]

Anytime adds die before they reach melee it should equal instant banned idk why wcl even polls this

[undone flower]

Big touch of magi

[opaque mortar]

Oh makes sense

[undone flower]

If you check a log just look their dmg on those

Touch of magi solo killing the add

[wicked eagle]

Tried arms for a few keys and feel like I need therapy, what a crock of shit

[frank dawn]

Just play Slayer Fury. It's good, and quite fun.

unless you're trying to be an ultra sweat giga pusher I guess, but for literally anything else. Just do it.

[strange drift]

this, rampaging and executing everything

also, enraged regen

massive change

but idk why dont they make it baseline tbh

w/o it u just dont havea a defensive besides reflect/shout

(and defensive stance)

[spare flame]

what change

[strange drift]

in talents u pick

no ?

[spare flame]

oh

right

[strange drift]

i mean u can take ER now for massacre

[spare flame]

i thought they were changing ER

and i missed it

[fickle vector]

Is slayer/thane fury specs in the wowhead guide updated regarding buffs? Any changes to mythic + builds??

[strange drift]

i wish bro

[edgy widget]

#updates-midnight

[sullen tendon]

This guy gets it

[unreal onyx]

92% of top fury logs on alleria are thane, but I assume most are pre-buff. Do I still play thane on that boss or do I play slayer?

[spare flame]

the thing about arms that i hate the most is how the cooldowns desync themselves just by playing the game

[edgy widget]

Slayer

[strange drift]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[edgy widget]

add damage doesn't count, all you care about is blasting the priority target/boss

there's a small amount of 2 target cleave at the very end, but with the nerfs you probably won't even get all three sets, so just let the ranged have em and glue yourself to the boss

[unreal onyx]

fair, thanks a lot

no talent shenannigans I assume aswell

regular raid MT build

[edgy widget]

probably just go full single target tbh, I'm not even sure it's worth the GCD to cleave anything

the P1 adds literally don't count on rankings and the P2 adds die instantly

but I suppose it depends on how much you want ER or if you don't wanna have to cast Rend manually

[unreal onyx]

fair, yea I think I'll go full ST and see what happens

thank you

[strange drift]

the voidupgrade is in a week right?

or was it 8

[rich gyro]

@edgy widget what is the best now in m+ sir ?

[fleet yarrow]

week

[strange drift]

noice

[lean nacelle]

play whatever you find fun, they're both close. Thane is probably more consistent

[rich gyro]

i want to know bc i'm doing keys 19-20 +

i want to know fury arms

i can play all and i have fun

[fickle vector]

Sorry if this is dumb question but is ER enraged regeneration?

[lean nacelle]

they're all really close, just play whatever. biz is playing colo and slayer arms in his keys and you can also play slayer or thane fury for 19s/20s., doesn't matter what you play as long as you play well

[remote zephyr]

Sir! what is the best spec now sir?!

[violet garden]

hrrrnnggghhhhh…

[young swan]

yes

[young swan]

colarms in coordinated groups where they can drag trash onto bosses for funnel + huge pulls

thane everywhere else

[stiff carbon]

Does Slayer's Strike have an animation?

Reap the Storm for sure does. I'm at work so can't check myself

[bitter palm]

ye

[south kayak]

Yeah it does

Just auto attack a dummy and you'll see your character do a random attack

[stiff carbon]

Ok, will check when I get home. I've never noticed anything before

[delicate rock]

Is slayer fury relevant for mythic bosses now? Thinking about alleria or lura

[fickle cedar]

for the first three i suppose

[honest trail]

What's the number of targets for RR to overcome Rampage dmg?

Like 8+?

[fickle vector]

If I’m Playing full ST slayer build and take ER instead of improved whirlwind, can I just replace whirlwind with rend and take whirlwind off my keybinds? Or is whirlwind important to fold into the rotation, I see it’s on the lowest priority if nothing else is off CD

[unborn musk]

RR=?

[honest trail]

Rampaging Ruin

Ik it's bad, just wanna test it

In like Saron

[lyric panther]

somoene was saying 7+ earlier but no evidence

[young swan]

7 sounds right

[lyric panther]

I don't think theres much difference. You could be in a situation where you have nothing to press other than early refresh on rend where technically WW would be better but I can't imagine its a lot

[teal slate]

I'd keep it, sometimes you hit a weird dead spot. So send whirlwind instead of not using a global

[lusty jungle]

Sir how do I match my socks if one of them is black and the other is missing

[teal slate]

Sharpie the other foot

[mortal pecan]

guys i got a quick question. Im a nightelf fury and in terms of shadowmeld - is there any way i can look up boss or mob abilities that i can get rid of with that?

I mean i just realized today, with like 3,5k rio that i can rid of the zones in seat and nexus point with berserker shout

[grave pike]

MT first boss and dragons mythic void? and slayer rest?

[spare flame]

bro the snowball strat is actually sick in nexus point

for last boss

[sly merlin]

been trying to see if wrecking throw works for it the same way but i think it travels too fast

[undone flower]

Yes heroic/wreck are too fast

[spare flame]

yep

too fast

[lyric panther]

I wonder if the chain from Champions spear shows

[spare flame]

but then you'd have to spec into spear

[bitter palm]

ye u just arent doing that ever

[spare flame]

[lyric panther]

[sly merlin]

it’s too fast so i think we need an additional 3% aura buff

[sullen tendon]

Turns out we didn’t need weak auras we just needed to keep finding different ways to cheese fights because they are annoying and no one wants to do them the normal way

[sly merlin]

man it’s so nice to not have to press puzzlebox

and the buffs feel good too i was mega pumping last night

not excited to go home and do my npx on 19 tho

[spark coral]

is 1st boss of voidspire on myth any different than heroic for a dps?

[terse ether]

we spell reflect before , as we have it or when expires ? D:

[spare flame]

talking about puzzlebox, i just recently learned that if you begin casting it before the key is placed, you'll get about 10 seconds of puzzle buff and it'll have its cd reset

[safe imp]

Question for thane players, how often should I be hitting t clap in different scenarios?

For example 1 target, 4-5 targets, 6+ targets?

Trying to maximize my damage on lust pulls

[spare flame]

idk if thats like public knowledge, but i didnt know that

[young swan]

i feel like this isnt worth but cool find regardless

[storm lake]

quick question, with the ups we got, is execute like a bit over on the priority spells or does it stay the same though ups

[young swan]

#updates-midnight message

[storm lake]

oh yeah its written my bad

[hybrid cargo]

thi image should inspire panic

[storm lake]

i read it as well haha

[hybrid cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-dizzy-spinning-spongebob-gif-10015738

[hardy cargo]

if you know what ambush on rogue looks like thats very similar to slayer strike

[light solstice]

Hi, i founded today this discord to hope that i could learn more about warrior tbh.. and my first question is where i struggle with.. whats better slayer or Mountain?

tyvm

[hybrid cargo]

[spare flame]

both are good, play what you like the most

[bitter palm]

its like outlaws main gauche no

[hardy cargo]

iirc theyre pretty similar ambush just has a lil jump at the start and is more exaggerated I dont really remember main gauche off the top of my head

[young swan]

they have different strengths and are therefore each better in different situations

[light solstice]

tyvm,

[young swan]

for example, slayer will edge out thane in pure ST situations, but thane is quite a bit better as soon as you start introducing additional targets

but if the adds dont live for very long, slayer can out perform because it has better snap burst than thane

[hybrid cargo]

taht said slayer also demands that your BS line up with the aoe situations cuz holding it is a death sentance

[uneven plaza]

we do get weap upgrade this week no?

like the voidstorm thingy

[hybrid cargo]

next i think

[light solstice]

tyvm for the explanation

[sly merlin]

i have similar images from last night

these buffs r so good

[drifting token]

what you running there, and what dungeon

[sly merlin]

thane and 18pit

[drifting token]

nice

[dawn swan]

i believe it's 7+ targets

[drifting token]

Only one day of data of course but the 13-place jump is pretty funny lol

[sly merlin]

what site is that

[drifting token]

mythicstats.com

[sly merlin]

fire

[fleet yarrow]

its like cool I still cant burst as hard

as these other specs

good thing that I maintain this shitload of dmg though whilst they fall off

[drifting token]

that's fury for ya

[compact knot]

Can't be allowed to burst super hard if your cds are 40 seconds

[tidal kindle]

I am goodbye wow

[unkempt oasis]

I am sorry to be the cause of people pinging you

[safe imp]

How often you hit TClap in 7+ targets?

[drifting token]

On cd

[bitter palm]

you can if cds are short asf

in duration

and u do 0 out of them

but need actual cds not dmg amp type shi

[tidal kindle]

Issok

[dawn swan]

on cd

[safe imp]

tyty

What’s the highest DPS you’ve gotten during an algathar first pull?

[fleet yarrow]

tbf that also kinda is what dope about it

you do great damage on practically every pull

[compact knot]

Then you get to a damage amp

And suck

[wispy mural]

Only during avatar/reck tho

[compact knot]

And they have liked damage amps these past 2 raids

[fleet yarrow]

meh i don't even want warrior to be that strong

[spare flame]

remember what happened TWW season 1?

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure outside of cooldowns too

[wispy mural]

Unless this isn't accurate anymore

I prio ramp outside reck/ava. It's not too common to start a pack without CDs tho

[drifting token]

The question was specifically if more than 7 targets are present though

[wispy mural]

Exactly

Which is mentioned

In the guide

[drifting token]

Fair

[safe imp]

Good intel lads ty

[rapid quarry]

So what If you have Avatar popped, do you Just spam thunderclaps and weave in rampage in between for enrage?

[opaque mortar]

And not to overcap rage

Capped rage is wasted rage

[safe imp]

Any idea what I can expect after a massive AOE Algathar first pull? I typically start at like 450k and end at 350k

[drifting token]

look at the picture right above you

[young swan]

pretty much, yeah

[rapid quarry]

The topic was +7 targets

[rapid quarry]

Ohhh

Ye im blind

Thats crazy

I'll bind it to my mousewheel

[ancient spear]

It feels bad spamming thunderclap and rampage and not proccing any thunderblasts

[safe imp]

During CDs is rampage more damage than TClap during 7+?

[ancient spear]

No, but it’s the second highest prio

[honest trail]

Some 17's Slayering

[ancient spear]

You can tclap every second GCD during CDs so you have one other GCD, which ends up being rampage so you don’t cap rage

[opaque mortar]

And rampage extends reckless? Avatar? One of em

[drifting token]

neither

[ancient spear]

It reduces the cooldown

[opaque mortar]

Ah that

And OF

[ancient spear]

Yep

[spare flame]

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