#fury
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Got it, ty Sir!
ok, well in multitarget, Whirlwind gets a very strong buff via Meat Cleaver, which actually causes it to take priority over Raging/Crushing Blow (it's actually p close to taking priority over Bloodthirst/Bath now too but hasn't gotten there yet)
there's probably a threshold of targets where it might be worth using? haven't looked that closely
basically once you get around 5 targets, you start pressing WW as your regular filler
Didnt say it was. Just Holding a general convo while we are at it.
And technically i wouldnt be surprised if blizz made some number errors.
Anyways. Have a nice day, sorry for bothering you.
they did not, I verified all of the hotfixes this morning
they actually buffed Fury very slightly more than we anticipated
is it safe to swap all my arms crafts into fury crafts and just hard swap to fury?
so at 5 targets you could (for minor dps loss) you could just WW and rampage? (ignoring cds, obviously)
This was the initial question
Shadowlands 
You’ll probably be fine
You need some more data and numbers to make such decision tbf
And on 2 targets? Is there ww > rb?
But fury is very viable now so short answer probably yes
"safe" is a bit hard to define - yes you absolutely could just main Fury in M+, though whether or not it ends up better overall remains to be seen
there are still some raid fights that favor Arms, but Fury's catching up p well there as well
I’m lowkey looking forward to trying Fury again. Cheers for all the inputs lads !
Yea what the hell
My only wish is for fury slayer to be TWW S3 viable again 😭
Well and Execute, OF, Bladestorm - dropping Bloodthirst/bath is like a 3-5% loss, so you still want to use them (partially because they help maintain rage and enrage)
so slayer is still under thane in voidspire(not paladins)?
depends on the fight
I like that people keep coming in here basically begging for an answer if they can stop playing arms yet
Can we switch yet? Can we play fury instead now?
at this point, Slayer should be better for the Imperator and Crown, and more or less equal on Vorasius
it's also better on L'ura, though Belo can go a bit either way
Literally 🤣 its just that colossus is so clunky
Cant blame Them tbh. Colossus doing tank damage on some bosses smh - shame tbh, cuz I like its aoe
but do you slot Stance Mastery?
Vorasius kinda depends on how your group is handling adds
- if they get separated and blown up quickly, I think you prob stick Slayer since it brings more ST
- if you have the opportunity to do any meaningful sustained damage to them, then Thane probably edges it out
or we want Barbaric Training
that's really not true
Colossus got a big leg up in single target in 12.0.5 and even this tuning gave it a small bump
I think it's a fun thing; a lot of people find fury more fun
Generally speaking yes, but on some bosses that are a mess and without funnel, it could feel horrible at times
Cant wait to try the buffs today
I personally find colossus quite difficult to play and the trade off for the reward is not worth it. I am not a good colossus player and that i recognize. So i guess it also depends on playstyle
Both is playable, just play your group around it
Being in a spot where u can p much choose is awesome
Nothing is unearnable either. Just Touch all them speccs and decide what u like most
big agree
And by not liking the spec automatically makes me perform bad so its not only about damage
GTL, baby ! If you look good, you feel good, it’s gonna be a good night 😎
Arms is harder than fury too, I think. So it's easier to get less out of it.
This
Yeah it is. But arms slayer i enjoy much more than any other warrior spec so im performing better in that
I feel fury is harder on ST with lust than arms lol
Your specc is only relevant for .1%. Everything else play what youre comfy with.
We are in a good spot balancing wise really
Yeah exactly!
my RSI hates both specs with lust 🤷
Fury is Way worse in terms of wrist health 😂 at least on ST I feel arms is pretty dummyproof
Why are you playing warrior now
People who play fury WANT to smash the keyboard, soooo...
my RSI is in my fingers/hands, wrists are okay for now 😂
No way DA 🌕 !!
Mage looked whacked, so Kungen arc activated 😼
))) welcome to zugzug life
Did someone say zugzug
Ty braten 😎😘
Someone needs to reverse the fury coffin gif
Dis wotlk?
any idea what fights we use slayer on mythic now?
slayer fury feels pretty good in keys, felt good in 19 WS, especially boss 3rd boss to be able to send OF and BS to kill adds to hit boss again
what was your overall looking like?
does kinda suck to be reliant on SD procs or rampage hitting 3 procs for reap
let me send overall screenshot one sec
can do log too if you want
sure, I do 18s, so interested in that
Turtlewow
overall 19 WS
the flower pull he pulled everything lol
looking pretty good tbh
literally all pad adds in to the flower and we shrouded the 2 firehawks
although why'd you opt into slayer in WS of all keys, feel like thane does work there
can i send the log here or should i direct message?
THX YOU
just felt like trying it lol inspired by noxiv streaming slayer
it is much more fun than MT tbh 😄
it is man and when you get a proc of SD in aoe it feels good lol
As much as i want to play slayer it has too much rng for aoe man
let it remain buried in df
my thoughts exactly
If you can post the logs, I'd be interested to see as well
can you bladestorm the abduction thing in skyreach last boss?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Fz4dmK8vDCa7p69c?fight=last theres the 19 WS
gaze from vault= can bonus roll something other than mythic heart
mythic alnseer*
I may have had "orange juice" tonight
it passes the 1 other guy in fury discord test
Its always interesting that log stats differ so much from the meter
the most credible test on the planet
dog i bonus rolled heroic chim kill and got tier token...looted warbound gaze from boss though lmao
yeah its weird normally about 10k for me
slayer?
yeah slayer, i put log up a bit too if you want to see
yesh 
dang the boss dam looks p good
yeah boss damage was my fave part, idk how my prio damage looked, but from what i heard from nox slayer is good boss/prio dam and MT more pad/overalls
makes sense
Thats why people love col. ST isnt that good but prio target on funnel is just insane
Colo is great unless your tank is a dumbass and doesn't pull trash onto the boss for whatever reason
Indeed. But im happy i can play fury now. I just like the asthetic more
Me too
always been a fury enjoyer
arms felt p good this season but
I want more st
outside of just funnel I should say
and slury is fun
Slarms is also big fun
But i just love that heavy plated Berserker fantasy too much
I tried the new slarms build that drops battlelord
its interesting
But fury feels so damn smooth man
compared to arms
I dont agree. It only feels off when you ragestarve for whatever reason. Bringing a sham neglects that
I mean
Col feels very very smooth
with arms even when you are not rage starved
sometimes rng can just kinda make you feel bad
I always feel bad when i see myself below the uhdk 
that must be a universal feeling with most classes rn lol
He still picks you up but you can blade storm while being carried
Even though ST sucks
Oh that is monk
spoiler alert: its always a monk 🙂
sry thought it was evoker because of darker green
Col in a 18 cavern. People already told me my dmg should be way higher in that dung so... meh
r u legit all key with slury? 
I wasnt asking bc of that tbh. Just wondering what Im gonna play later. I wanna play Fury but I guess its still gonna be Col
I would pick a bear over a monk every time. But lfg is just flooded with monks
Play thane if you want just build your group around it. Since col has Was higher funnel/prio u want to combat that by bringing another high priodmg class
I was doing that earlier but then I realized I can just q as Arms and get invites instead xd
sitting in q as fury was a miserable experience tbh
Sit in queue as arms and specc fury when pulltimer starts.
Thats how some locks and hunters do it
i was doing that as well sometimes but its kinda diabolic lmao
boys what is the right way to sim for fury slayer now?
I always run my own keys anyways. Having full control of your group is better than a dude inviting based on rio or "better specc"
If they invite you, you know the group is doomed to fail
Guys whats our priority in execute phase, BT or Execute?
As mountain thane
Bt
Bt always
Shieeeet
?
If u like execute play slayer, problem solved
What would take priority as a filler, Tclap or Raging blow?
Depends on how many targets I’m pretty sure
aight
So how are fury buffs?
feels 5% better xd
The manaflux crystals are so dumb to me xD
I haven't done 1 piece of Mythic raiding
Yet I have 3/4 tier set being mythic gear
I think the same but if it wasnt that way people would cry like crazy
Dumb? Its great. 0 mythic raids
Is manaflux catalyst?
Ye I don’t see why it’s a bad thing
Its one of the only good things that came with this expansion xd
I kinda dislike it
It didn’t come with this expac
How come
It came with patch 12.0
catalyst been around for a while boy xD
Im talking about tmog not catalyst
Then clarify that
Whos talking about catalyst xd
Alright guys
If you want to be technical they did come this expansion xd
How is fury doing after buffs?
Catalyst didn’t though
Im gonna go open vault. If there is haste mast ring from npx or hand pieces ill go fury again 
With that logic “omg rend is a brand new ability”
for the great vault and Gaze should I spec to prot to get it ? I already looted the other trinket of Chimaerus on Mythic
Im blocking you. With people like you common sense will never get through. Peace
If u go prot u can have shields in there too depending on what second boss u yeeted
So chance is the same
Lmao oh no my logic made too much sense
I killed Vora, Imerator and Chim on Mythic and the bird on heroic
Did you bonus roll the trinket ?
Or was it vault or drop
yes
Then it wont come again for bonus rolls so switching to prot doesnt matter for bonus loot
Opening vault as prot sounds sus
talking about vault
So you would have all 3 bosses chance. Better trinket chance on gaze but you'll have a shield chance in first boss of void. So its the same amount of items. Just shifted
gimme haste mastery ring so i can go fury 🙏
If your vault hits on dreamrift ita 50 for gaze as prot loot spec
Bit of you land on imp you may roll a shield etc
Is bro leaving the arms
How come. Practice makes perfection sir
This is a vault
SCrew the box
I remember when I started as fury. Then blizzard gave me mythic void ring in vault. Little did I know in the upcoming weeks I was swapping to arms. And I didnt need to bonus roll nexus
Whats the vault tho
isnt necklace goated
and the cloack ant great
heroic
o nvm
Well the issue id you didnt do 8 keys. Whats your shoulders rn
cant you catalyst the cape
myth set shoudlers
Then ye take tokens
what does it do
Probably either a roll or a socket. Sim it
socket gear
You can buy a socket item or a bonus roll
For 6 tokens
how many weeks have passed and still no vorasius trinket, not even hc
sad life
Ok so I can have my 2 regular weekely roll + 1 for DJ?
If you take the bonus roll from vault yes
Is the time i start taking sockets from vaults unless i get the last gear pieces i need to cata
The undreamt ooze is speaking to me
Ithink I'll take the bonus roll and try rolling it in Algethar for the ring?
or socket my myth 289 helm
Sim it. Id the ring even good for you? Can't imagine the set for nexus or MT and nexus rings better for you
Fury Slayer now prioritizes Execute above Bloodbath in single target, while multitarget prioritizes both Execute and Rampage over Bloodbath/Bloodthirst.
does that mean even execute without Sd higher prio than bb?
already got MT 289 ring
Nexus light ring?
I guess crit mastery and a socket is good for a ring? I saw top fury player wearing it
Bifurcation band, MT ring
Sim it. Just cause he has it doesnt mean its good for you
Im asking about the light ring
It didn’t specify sd, so yes
nope don't have it
Surely a mast verse isnt as good then nexus haste mastery for you
no light or dark on mythic
Surly
Is there way to add different item in raidbots simc profile?
(want to sim crit vers cloak too before taking it)
Top gear
There's a section to add item in top gear
thanks
hey, so thane > colossus arms now in m+?
@winter shoal your addon seem to bug too
for pugging probably
There are way too many nuances, and the whole party has to play and pull specifically around the Arms warrior
lel, socket in head sims higher than change 276 haste mastery cloak to 289 with crit vers
how can it be? simming just patchwerk 5m in
Does heroic l'ura ring sim higher than mythic other ones?
Or does it depend on your own haste value
always depends on your own gear
My AOTC guild prog'd M Vorsasius today, pretty happy with my dam but boy does it feel bad to get shit on my a UH DK parsing a 37
Ended up playing Thane, couldn't get the same dam with Slayer
Judt how it is. Like look at the mages doing slightly less then you but way worse parse lol
Its also a tuseday reset
how come dh bar is half blue question him on that shi fr
Meanwhile I'm sweating my ass off
But I learned a bit of where I can improve for next time
I think so hehe
is this thane or slayer?
Thane
ahh okay, did you play thane for the add pad or just pref?
Not really to pad, we just struggled with getting one side down fast and I know that I could help more as Thane. I'm also just a bit more comfortable, but we took like 20 pulls and I tried both.
hey crit i know you're not streaming today so to make it feel like a stream: is fury better than arms now in m+? @mossy fox
thats a GREAT question
No
ahh fairs, thanks
is bm that strong atm or just in that fight?
🤣

I think it's probably worse than the others, it's just comfort for him there. He's pretty solid
played abit of thane this morning in 19 seat its definitely viable but doesnt feel like super ahead seems quite on par w colossus now tbh
but I think slayer could be pretty big for AA
Fury slayer btter in keys then arms colo ??
Keep in mind thane is padding Col is prio/funnel
could be possible to play fury slayer on vanguard ? or collo >>
bro hows it padding
please
everything has to die
you still have decent prio on main target
if thats the case when my ever invite ferral into phys comp theyre legit all pad
Bringing lashers down in AA as example. Its great that youve padded everything else to death, the lashers will still eat your tank if they dont die
Doesnt matter too much if u play col or thane, just keep dsmage Profiles in mind
Or the Ravagers in there, without strong prio the others will be long dead while that fucker is teleporting around still in anything +17
tbh the only thing I hate with col is you have to build routes around the funnel with thane I think its gonna be alot more pug friendly especially in keys like mt,sky,AA hell probs most of them tbh outside of MC
Well I hope Thane aint taking over, cause I just bonus rolled in pit and got all the crit haste gear for Arms 😂
im fully arms now too xD
and im enjoying it more
in adittion i also tank sometimes and crit haste has more sinergy with protection than mastery
Every single .1% player will tell you prio damage is the most important damage. It allows you to chain faster, have bigger pulls, yada yada yada.
Thane is good, damage is good. Just add a prio target class to account for it and youre gucci
I think theyre the same now definitely in overall damage anyway I will have to properly check logs for prio dmg to see but for sure its better than before
The overall on thane is great, again there is no reason not to play it
as dracz said it will depend on comp but if ur running ret rogue instead of ferral then I think its deffo an option
i would love to play slayer fury instead of thane
if they buff reap to like 25% chance then I think we will be gaming slayer
I hate ferals. They have low st and all pad in cd bursts
but without the reap buff 20% chance is too low
I just cant bring myself to enjoy Slayer
What would people play in M+ now Thane or Slayer?
aoe is better as slayer sure but its still not good enough at least in like the highest end keys anyway
I mean if ur doing 16s -18 keys you can play whatever u want I think
is it good enough for 0,1% title? :>
Oh lmao. Yeah it is, but thane still better for aoe situations
In low keys where shit dies fast Slayer is cool
But then again, slayer has better prio and ST
So pick your poison
I wouldnt Team a thane with a feral. Id fefo Team a slayer with a feral tho
again will depend on comp and what key your doing tbh
yeah I think so im gonna do abit more testing in abit with some logs so when I try slayer in some higher content rather than a +12 pit for a roll lol
Hello everyone - sorry to ask, this may have been asked a bazillion time
For MM raiding we are still rocking MT right?
Grab yourself a group that runs the same dungeon on the same level twice, same pulls yada yada
yeah I'll try cooking some shit but as you said it isn't all about overall dmg as slayer will deffo lose that battle its just the prio t damage if it makes it faster
Enjoy testing my guy
Remember the most important Aspect is having fun while gaming
i just cant have fun 
i know dungeon logs dont really matter but this is swag to see
anyone notice fury wanting alot more crit using sims
yes
i think its because we get so much value from eyes of the eagle enchant with recklesness
good, just making sure its not some weird oddity
I like to see rank 1 because it means I'm doing something right.
yes
so with the new tuning, whats the play Arms or Fury for M+ ?
sadly it was only an 17 bc i was doing keys w my frens
and i didnt log the 18 pit i supa pumped on
i thought bigwigs or raider io did it
Think there is a addon but I'm lazy
but it was fucked for one of my friends and it didnt owrk
Are the builds here still relevant after patch yesterday?
Shift + windows + S
What are people playing for Dragons and Paladins reclear today??
arms still ahead by quite abit in 2t
i really wonder for what reason I could lose like 6-7k dps just with that simple rotation
cannot exceed 68k even on a long run, when sims shows almost 75k on dummy
latency?
no crucial, but interesting
although idk maybe gonna try abit of slayer on paladins tomorrow
i prio exec proc over all except ragecap rampage/odyn/reck/bs
hey everyone is arms still better or is fury good to go for m+?
HJAHA
I think now it's what you prefer
They are both close
Arms will do slightly more dps imo however
FURY!!!!!!!!!! thanks ❤️
and then hunter/lock/dh/dk shows up with 200k+ overall...xD
110k overall is sooooo big
Is there a website or a content creator that makes videos on showing all the TECH in M+ used in higher keys? Or you just gotta watch full videos of the top timed keys.
Yoda does some tank specific stuff, idk a warrior specific person though.
Critcake might have some videos or shorts
Hello ! The patch in EU is here ?? Some people say no
we are so back
Doesn't need to be specific to warrior but yeah ill just go watch some of the top players full video playthroughs aagain. ty
check out Noxiv videos on youtube he does 20 keys in fury and arms
but there is no detailed breakdown, as I understood
he instantly jumps on the chimaerus adds when they pop out of dream phase, killing ppl
I mean I am gonna start doing that in my myth raids tbh need to get some better than blue logs on chimmy
high 90s to bosses blue parse
go figure
i did a 98 once, i can rest on that pad boss
adds die too quick
yeah I mean my 2 DHs wlocks fucking boomie just sending on adds
insta pop then cant hit when upstairs
blah fucking blah
maybe its just a slayer angle now for reclears just to get out there quick
You need to do the get rank 1 week 1 technology so you perma have the 100 on your wcl page
That's what i did
Pretty color
with recent patch i see cast bars on my party frames, how do i disable that
Anyone know if the bonus rolls are per difficulty? I did dreamrift on heroic so far and idk if i shoudl go on mythic for the trinket
Don't send rerolls on heroic!
Are you implying you used a bonus roll on heroic dreamrift
hero raid bonus rolls, only give hero items, so so not roll on hero
And no it doesn't work that way
Heroic loot table is different from mythic
Or atleast should be id imagine nobody has tested
Using rolls on anything other than m+ and m raid is trolling
^
yea last week i used it on heroic
Darn 🙁
i mean i want to try a mythic group but idk if i can :))
i was just curious if i start from scratch if i do mythic raid from now on cause in that case i won t :))
Yeah, your mythic reroll table will be fresh
I don t play with a guild so i feel like i ll rarely get into mythic pugs
you won't have anything eliminated
oh damn that sucks
at least i don t have to bother with a mythic pug then :))
thanks
any switchers from arms? to thane?
I think arms will still perform better overall in M+
was wondering if any feedback
im asian server which resets on thursday
And on certain bosses in raid
darn for some reason i feel more comfortable with fury but i know for sure i do better overall as arms
my comfort zone and ourput zone is fighting
output
I’m not 100% on it though, would have to sim it all
Archi sims show that fury thane seems to be higher, but im guessing thats aoe i 5 targets?
anything above 5 arms will do better i guess
If archi sims are showing better then I’d take his word on it
yep, also depends on how tank is pulling
But yeah not sure about target size
yeah he is the professor of warrior discord lol
It’s very hard to sim m+ because every tank is different
he posts them cause people would reeeeee if he didnt
i have no expectations, and keep dooming til next expac 
they would just pop up elsewhere and be less peer reviewed than they are here
Fury lets goo
I guess but it pmo, dudes be seeing thane simming for 100k over arms slayer and thinking slayer arms is just ass
Kinda wanna try rampaging ruin as fury in AA
do we still replace massacre with enraged gen in high keys?
despite the CBT of using the cancelaura
While it very well could just be the best of the 4 now after playing it a bit
Huh
yeah but i think its the lesser of 2 evils though
people would be clamoring for them if he didnt publicize them
and still a meta forms at some point
Is there any reliable information yet on whether Slayer is now better than Mountain Thane in M+
Disclaimer perhaps
the problem surrounding it right now is just that people dont have real data, only hypothetical sim scenarios
my boss damage as arms is so bad i feel guilty when doing boss dps.
some tanks who know this actually put trash next to boss but very difficult to expect in pugs
and people will have strawman or "what if" arguments if its chosen a way they dont like
Spec slayer and do 100k boss dps
people are dum dum and dont want to think for themselves
By existing
whereas fury boss dps is just good and dont have to rely on tanks
wtf slayer arms? dos 100k boss dps?
I'm very geared
But yeah I'm doing 90k-100k boss dps
Last boss magisters I did 104k without lust
Obviously good rng but
Then with funnel you pull like 130k st dps
Also you need a shaman or else you won't do that much dps and instead like 80k
MS doesnt though xdd
Slarms
is fury slayer good for m+ now ?
Dilemma :
difference is small between rings
Slayer or thane?
That’s the issue with arms tbh, you are so reliant on a shaman in the group it’s crazy
I'm just weighing between slayer arms and thane fury for m+ now
Gonna be doing 18s and hopefully 19s etc after I round out 17 resil
pure pug
arms is holding my crafted 2h and wrist hostage
if you want rings and play arms too i would choose the m+ ring
theres no shot wowhead shows wrath and fury talented into thane MT lol
ah no it doesnt im blind, thats not MT
Only slayer not Thane no?
cloak has speed, pick that? i have a crafted 285 cloak, hc 276 wrist, hc 276 belt, hc 276 neck on arms
You can always pick the tokens for an extra reroll
Belt might be worth it over a hc belt
took morbillion years to get accepted in pug
however socket or voidcore does sound nice too..
did you guys feel a difference with the buffs
that cloak is on bis list. can catalyst belt for bis belt.
or add a socket anywhere
bonus roll is eh, depending on what you have left
To be honest I think it still happens with my addon, might have gotten better with 12.0.5, lowkey a blizzard issue
it bis list with bonus stat (speed)
Hello wanted to ask since I don't have much experience as a warrior after the changes is fury warrior better than arms ?
should i not be getting guaranteed reap the storms when i BT during recklessness ?
has our ST build fully changed for most fights now to slayer instead of mountian thane?
Fury slayer or fury thane for raid ?
Are people playing thane or slayer for crown?
i think we take slayer, i just simmed my ST and slayer is ahead of thane by about 6k
sorry my noob question. why do we do more damage with shaman on group?
yes we do
Shaman gives skyfury buff
shaman has a mastery buff and we like mastery. it also buffs autos which gives warriors resources, which is a huge deal for arms (which is why arms gets more like 12% dps), but i believe fury mostly just likes the mastery
shaman buff gives us more attacks = more attacks = more zug zug
any shaman spec?
yep
nice to know, thx
someone have an updated spech for slayer ? ( with stance ? i heard that stance is taken in slayer )
Stance mastery is good because it basically makes u immortal
If you use def stance atleast
yes i know ( and i use it even without the spec point ) but someone have a uptadet specxialisation tree ? ^^
all on wowhead
Stance mastery pilled
fury still in the dumbster... just did less than druid tank in overall ..
whats like a good overall for Skyreach 18-19 as MT
Slayer Fury fucks aside from the desync it puts in work. Was happy to see my ST sit over 100k and stay there lol
Doesnt seems like a fury problem... hahaha
Fury can easily do 140-160K overall anywhere
Lmao
Lmao
ye so can druid tank.. thats what im saying
warlock are sitting at 190k btw, and we are happy with 140k
Just saw Noxiv do 190k
that is detail number not logs number
bro ngl
I think that's a you issue
WS21 just now, we depleted on 3rd boss but still
died twice mid pull
people who always blame outside factors honestly make me feel weird… how does anyone even end up like that? it’s just you bro, you’re pressing the wrong buttons
Delusional
They'd rather blame some nonexistant boogeyman than their own lack of skill
I'm really enjoying these buffs ngl, feels good
do we ACTUALLY wanna press tclap all the time in CDs in 6+ targets
it feels kinda bad to giga prio thunder blast and tclap with max rage, BT up and only one tblast stack
You can do 200k with fury... Im sitting at 180-190 fury 220-235 arms, could do more if i pushed higher probably
I dont think druid tank does 160K overall, you have logs?
Yeah this seems more like it
21? Big balls
Queue simulator
I'm curious how many gcds betwesn clap. In lust its 1 gcd between claps. Outside of lust always 2? Assuming ur not trying to do prio
the amt of gcds between claps is based on if you have avatar up not if you have lust up (unless you have like 300% haste)
And how many GCDs is that?
so do we just fully take slayer now for ST and MT and just thane for m+?
Looks that way
I just got Eternal voidsong chain from the vault , how do I proc shadow damage as fury warr ?
Not sure about vanguards/dragons though
with rings and stuff
are you pressing rampage ? might help with dps issue
The nexus point rings or the void claw gauntlet
so what % did fury receive?
Look in midnight channel
are there any talent changes to fury ?
No talent changes
Ah yeah I forgot
help , (already have hero gaze, have hero legs , want the myth legs they have avoidance also
if ur bonus rolling dungeons u might get a myth plate leg anyways
id just send a myth gaze
Don't you just take gaze here everyday?
Gaze is pretty big, and you get to save 2 bonus rolls to be used in m+
can probably get legs off m+
would be ez prep for item upgrade to 290 or whatever the fkc it is to
i mean theres no doubt
gaze
its half the rolls
esp as fury id guess u are hard going for NPX rolls
npx has legs
so theres nn to take legs imho
okay Ill get gaze thanks guys
I take it this is in AoE?
When we upgrade our weapon to 298 next week can we upgrade the 2nd 2h for free to 298? Are there information about this yet?
no, it’s item-bound, not slot-bound
Would you up a Myth Weap to 298 even if it has meh stats over a crafted 285?
Dont have Voidcleaver Myth but do have Two-Ton
@stoic echo can u try this in a real key
in aoe spam exe and cleave
ms with 2x ep if cs is up
otherwise exe/op
I did a shit ton of sims I dont see the point in arms slayer unless you otp
yeah this sim is with phys comp buffs
based
counterpoint
exe is top overall
and its peak
@radiant plank slayer is finally slayer
no battlelord = no fun
yeah but in return you are fucked if you never get windfury procs
I mean partially true
not bad but not feeling the same on M+ dont know why
The thing about fury is
that it sims so nicely
but holy is it dogshit in real content
I have never seen fury do the same as it sims
yet colo was just gapping it
noxiv is pumpin tbf
Thats because sims are not always compareable to real keys
will my X button crit
max damage for every moment
0 ST
🤔
they gain nothing fo bf right
dw man my team mate is assa
from*
guys fury slayer plays the same in raid as before patch right ?
even worse
Thane to kill the nothing burger small adds
every 7th pack
cuz your blast didnt proc
eta gg
i mean
sometimes your blast no proc
but sometime
blast proc big
its kinda like slayer fury last season
sometimes you get a billion reaps
and sometimes you get 0
it is what it is
Whar
Im just telling you the raw CD of tc
Target count doesnt affect it
@warm crag tell me bro, what am i gonna play, whats ur hot take
I can see a cheeky fury angle here and there
I feel big diff
in m+
slayer fury natuurlijk
there's no way to actually force reaps right?
5% diff
SD
Not big
very big
Let ekm rephrase... there's no way to force SD is there? XD
Sometimes I feel like I can will it into existance
rng
Biz made that really nice arms video a while back. Is there anything equal for fury?
BRING BACK TWW SLAYER
4 REAPS BACK TO BACK
THE POWER
You know what's better than 4 reaps back to back
5 OF THEM HOES
we get 1 season of being good and dk is going "thank you" up and down on blizzard for 2 expansions
So do we go fury mt for lightblinded or still arms? Anyone test yet?
For vanguard arms probs still bis but u can kinda play w.e
I think arms has the edge there but fury isn't a troll pick anymore
It's not an important boss really
💯
Does Burst of Power get ignored in AoE during CDs unless you need the rage?
is slayer close to thane in keys?
in short aoe i use the charges, sustained i maximise the rage --> ramps
Hello, This is my Vault and idk which of these items to choose. (I dont have Gaze 😢 )
ty!
Go back to arms where you belong with your bad takes
if u dont mythic raid id be leaning towards myth boots or even just a socket if u have multiple re rolls
with the rolls ur just gonna be building towards a bis list of m+ gear
Mythic boots is from the dreamer tho, so do that first
whats best for keys now tell me
Sim it, but likely Plume, Mythic Track Boots or the Bifurcation Band
Slayer or Thane both works... just play what you prefer
Though you could try pugging Dream Mythic, it's not super hard and you can spend your bonus roll there for Gaze, Tier or boots.
thane will be more consistent
Slayer be more fun
same
Play dstance
just one shot a cheeky lil +18 alg
over 100k dps on every boss with no mobs brought in
as thane
100k dps st
Oh im slayer
But even then I feel the single target boost
i mean u're gonna feel the single target boost more as slayer
since it got a 10% buff
im gonna try my next key as slayer, should smash bosses
But like it feels weird that bloodbath is lower prio then rampage/execute
at all times
super unsure which hero spec i prefer rn
couldve done way more but only a 15
I thought this was the fury channel
it is
It makes more sense to me to have ramp/exe higher prio than bt/bb imo
so how does fury compare to arms after tuning for m+?
Arms is still way better but atleast the gap got a bit closer
thane or slayer?
Slayer
i have to try it
Ty bro
Ty 😉
soooo fury slayer is the best one on st now?
the guy who told me it was a skill issue iswtg it was a group issue went from 25 log to 99
he probably remembers
Huge tech, will never die again thnx bro
bro doing 10s
15 but should only get better
step one, run your own key
Seriously
yeah and?
his key is not a 10 xD
dropping your key from a 21 or 20 to a 10 for weekly on wednesday would be insane
does anyone know whats the best talent to swap if u wanna go rampaging ruin ?
In aoe execute only higher prio if sudden death procced right?
as someone who's a bit of a tard, what's the actual discernible difference between the M+ Fury build and the Raid Fury build?
Utility (Raid) vs CC (M+)
makes sense, tyvm
to me, on the face of it, they're essentially the same thing lol
it is
Yes and no
I would must rather have intervene in raid vs cc in a non applicable encounter
But run what’s most comfortable at the end of the day
Sims don’t matter if you struggle to stay alive
Who is pressing intervene in the year of the lord 2026
It mitigates like no damage id be surprised if it did
Let me think I’m being helpful with the garbage warrior utility
one of the reasons youd bring more than one historically yeah
if the damage is tuned fine
👌
Got my first pink parse ever last night. Ik it’s only heroic but hey I’m still proud
goat
Slayer?
thane reap the storm
Yep
terrifying
I’ve always preferred slayer for first 3 bosses
Is slayer now on par with MT? Or we still playing mt?
any ideas how we can convince blizz to revert slayer fury to how it was in TWW s3
no thank you
in terms of st slayer is still much better mt is thane tho
does anyone know if you can get allerias neck from bonus roll?
Tww s3 slayers? 
I miss spamming raging blow and looking at those nice spins
How about for mythic plus. Is mt or slayer the move
Slayer didn’t hook me enough, i’m jailed with thane
what feeling M+?
Slayer?|
but thane is still doing more overall in m+ sadly
🙁
Why are there 2 Bladestorms
fair
did they add those ~parse recently? i dont remember the squigly line :D
is puzzle box + gaze ass high keys ?
Try it, i’ve been doing almost the same overall as both and sometimes i did more as Slayer they are very close in dps
what about myth raid? swapping over to slayer?
Probably on most fights yes
Gaze feels so weird
Tbh its sorta just a perfect acceptation of fury
Either your gonna be perma uptiming gigachad
Or your not and gonna hit like a wet noodle
Might as well double down
Gaze and Heart
what are we comparing here
thane vs slayer
anyone else whos playing slayer noticed that sudden death seems to proc more now?
is it just me
high rolling or have they changed something?
should i take a second vault weapon over the crafted one? which embellishment i go second then?
it does seem to feel that way. which is very nice. But i hope its intentional
I remember why I stopped playing fury. 6 dungeons in and my wrist is killing me
haha yeah
carpel tunnel
big time
does anyone know if ww is still higher prio than RB in aoe?
gonn a get rampage and BT on some floor pedals
detail bug with aoe talent on rampage :
i tried x)
icl probably but it feels fuckin horrible to press over RB
Destruction Frenetique
@dense elbow ilvl check
cant remember for slayer do we hold bs for reck or just rip it on cd
and if assuming m+ pack already has been hit with bs prior for overwhelmed, does that change whether to rip or hold?
reck bs
It’s still really random in my experience. I’d go entire packs in m+ without any sudden death procs then I would get 4 in a row as soon as the next pack is about to die .
is Ruin not better in 3+ targets?
Ruin is not worth it at all
It replaces rampage
Even though it doesn’t say it does
i mean, it deals 40% less damage, but to all targets reduced beyond 8
and with a cancel aura macro, you can use it to still deal full single target damage
So yea if you are constantly pulling 10+ mobs it may edge out rampage a little but in realistic scenarios sacrificing your cleave and st fo minimal uncapped aoe gain isn’t worth it
well, it reduced prio damage. but it doesnt reduce single target if youre using a cancel aura macro
There aren’t many scenarios where it’s worth.
Maybe the aa pull
Maybe a few pulls in pit
But overall you’re sacrificing so much damage
its also showing up as 4 different abilities. smh
If you need ruin damage in aa you shouldn't be doing the key
Yea
I stopped using base ui after giving it a 1 week chance because of that
It doesn’t count abilities as one
I tried it once when I was like 10 farming, never again
Think it does it for like half our abilities
So is wowhead just not updated yet or is rb still less prio than rend and wrack
does anyoneknow how many targets is necessary before ruin becomes better?
just dont run it
Rb bad
okay slayer is a fucking vibe when you get the procs in m+
Can also read when it got updated last
we fully convert to slayer in raid now or? some bosses MT
I'd feel like paladins and dragons are likely still MT fights
Its so frustrating to prio spells that dont even generate rage over rb
whats the better dps spec for giga high keys rn
Colossus probbaly
But maybe wait a few days and check back, since patch hasnt been out for even a day
Colo arms is safe bet tho
I don’t want to be at work I want to apply to 20 keys
What is the stats difference from Fury>Arms? Is the mas/haste a loss in arms?
Fury haste mast some crit arms haste crit
fury m+ we still use than right?
can use both but thane will be more consistent
i saw from somewhere it says 7 targets, but i cant remember where
were back
we did have lust but they sent after I had already rek and bladestormed
slayer actually seems quite viable tbh its definitely alot lower aoe but you seem like you have real good prio
Boss man!!!
In particular, this should put Fury Slayer's sustained multitarget very close to Thane (potentially even higher with **effective use of Ruin**) Archi stated this with the tuning updates, does anyone have the ruin build?
yeah dont play it
you need v specific conditions for it to work
like over 8t it makes it somewhat viable however you lose so much prio t damage its just not viable in anyway shape or form
Basically you will get kicked for not killing seers in nexus and not killing lashers in aa
slayer is super fun and definitely more viable now though its deffo behind thane but its 100% more viable to play than before
I saw in #updates-midnight that we can pick up IWW and ignore the rend button for minimal loss. Are we dropping rend entirely from the warrior tree or just not pressing it. And what are we dropping in the fury tree to grab IWW
Don’t even know why rend is a talent still
It should just be part of these abilities
Wasting a talent spot
Kk so still need to talent. Shame it doesn't work like Deep wounds for arms.
What are we dropping fury tree then for IWW?
Probably some middle talent
Like the raging blow refund ones
I don’t have it open in front of me
Tell me which talents/build are stronger for Mythic+,please.
Just run the same Thane build as always and call it a day.
If you drop iww you are forced to take enraged regen (or vice versa) if you are following the slayer build
Thane should be more consistent
Run thane and you good
can fury compete with Arms now?
no
...yes lol
buff fury one more time for the love of the game
yeah, it’s just not easy to compare them because their profiles are so different. fury is much more balanced—even on slayer. arms is way more polarized in its profile—slayer is more balanced than colo tho
hello slayer good or Thane better ?
yes
Press buttons very fast and win dps
kek
hello warrior i have question now the priority is Raging blow --> bloodbath ---> execute ou Execute--> bloodbath with up to raging blow
check out the written guides, wowhead has a page dedicated to the rotation
I prefer to ask people who play the class; Wowhead isn't always fair.
LOL
i play the class and i am telling you wowhead is fair
not like he hides his character
In all fairness it might aswell be AI soon 🙂
I just wanted to know if the priority order had changed with the Raging Blow and Execution buffs.
what u guys think pick a 20 crest save or a bonus roll ?

