#fury

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edgy widget
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I assume the latter, but just being clear

tulip lotus
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Got it, ty Sir!

edgy widget
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ok, well in multitarget, Whirlwind gets a very strong buff via Meat Cleaver, which actually causes it to take priority over Raging/Crushing Blow (it's actually p close to taking priority over Bloodthirst/Bath now too but hasn't gotten there yet)

charred path
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there's probably a threshold of targets where it might be worth using? haven't looked that closely

edgy widget
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basically once you get around 5 targets, you start pressing WW as your regular filler

hot shell
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Didnt say it was. Just Holding a general convo while we are at it.
And technically i wouldnt be surprised if blizz made some number errors.
Anyways. Have a nice day, sorry for bothering you.

edgy widget
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they actually buffed Fury very slightly more than we anticipated

lean wadi
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is it safe to swap all my arms crafts into fury crafts and just hard swap to fury?

olive wraith
charred path
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so at 5 targets you could (for minor dps loss) you could just WW and rampage? (ignoring cds, obviously)

olive wraith
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This was the initial question

eternal sundial
modern cliff
humble oak
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And on 2 targets? Is there ww > rb?

modern cliff
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But fury is very viable now so short answer probably yes

edgy widget
tulip lotus
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I’m lowkey looking forward to trying Fury again. Cheers for all the inputs lads !

modern cliff
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My only wish is for fury slayer to be TWW S3 viable again 😭

edgy widget
fringe citrus
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so slayer is still under thane in voidspire(not paladins)?

edgy widget
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depends on the fight

sullen tendon
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I like that people keep coming in here basically begging for an answer if they can stop playing arms yet

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Can we switch yet? Can we play fury instead now?

edgy widget
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at this point, Slayer should be better for the Imperator and Crown, and more or less equal on Vorasius
it's also better on L'ura, though Belo can go a bit either way

modern cliff
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Literally 🤣 its just that colossus is so clunky

fringe citrus
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hm , will definetly test Vorasius

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with Wrath and Fury

tulip lotus
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Cant blame Them tbh. Colossus doing tank damage on some bosses smh - shame tbh, cuz I like its aoe

indigo arch
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Felt like I should have been slayer in imperator

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adds die too fast to clap

fringe citrus
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but do you slot Stance Mastery?

edgy widget
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Vorasius kinda depends on how your group is handling adds

  • if they get separated and blown up quickly, I think you prob stick Slayer since it brings more ST
  • if you have the opportunity to do any meaningful sustained damage to them, then Thane probably edges it out
fringe citrus
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or we want Barbaric Training

edgy widget
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Colossus got a big leg up in single target in 12.0.5 and even this tuning gave it a small bump

charred path
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I think it's a fun thing; a lot of people find fury more fun

tulip lotus
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Generally speaking yes, but on some bosses that are a mess and without funnel, it could feel horrible at times

potent thicket
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Cant wait to try the buffs today

modern cliff
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I personally find colossus quite difficult to play and the trade off for the reward is not worth it. I am not a good colossus player and that i recognize. So i guess it also depends on playstyle

hot shell
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Both is playable, just play your group around it

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Being in a spot where u can p much choose is awesome

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Nothing is unearnable either. Just Touch all them speccs and decide what u like most

charred path
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big agree

modern cliff
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And by not liking the spec automatically makes me perform bad so its not only about damage

tulip lotus
charred path
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Arms is harder than fury too, I think. So it's easier to get less out of it.

modern cliff
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Yeah it is. But arms slayer i enjoy much more than any other warrior spec so im performing better in that

tulip lotus
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I feel fury is harder on ST with lust than arms lol

hot shell
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Your specc is only relevant for .1%. Everything else play what youre comfy with.
We are in a good spot balancing wise really

modern cliff
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Yeah exactly!

charred path
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my RSI hates both specs with lust 🤷

tulip lotus
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Fury is Way worse in terms of wrist health 😂 at least on ST I feel arms is pretty dummyproof

sinful mantle
hot shell
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People who play fury WANT to smash the keyboard, soooo...

charred path
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my RSI is in my fingers/hands, wrists are okay for now 😂

tulip lotus
tulip lotus
sinful mantle
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))) welcome to zugzug life

hot shell
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Did someone say zugzug

tulip lotus
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Ty braten 😎😘

lusty jungle
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Someone needs to reverse the fury coffin gif

indigo arch
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Not yet

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Toss another 10% aura on for good measure

floral bay
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any idea what fights we use slayer on mythic now?

gentle badge
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slayer fury feels pretty good in keys, felt good in 19 WS, especially boss 3rd boss to be able to send OF and BS to kill adds to hit boss again

floral bay
gentle badge
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does kinda suck to be reliant on SD procs or rampage hitting 3 procs for reap

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let me send overall screenshot one sec

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can do log too if you want

floral bay
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sure, I do 18s, so interested in that

sinful mantle
gentle badge
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overall 19 WS

hot shell
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Im curious too. My arms couldnt break 160k overall

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120k on brew is insane

gentle badge
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the flower pull he pulled everything lol

floral bay
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looking pretty good tbh

gentle badge
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literally all pad adds in to the flower and we shrouded the 2 firehawks

floral bay
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although why'd you opt into slayer in WS of all keys, feel like thane does work there

gentle badge
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can i send the log here or should i direct message?

undone flower
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THX YOU

gentle badge
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just felt like trying it lol inspired by noxiv streaming slayer

empty ice
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its gotta be gaze right

floral bay
indigo arch
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fuck memebox

gentle badge
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it is man and when you get a proc of SD in aoe it feels good lol

hot shell
indigo arch
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let it remain buried in df

empty ice
honest cave
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If you can post the logs, I'd be interested to see as well

quartz wharf
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can you bladestorm the abduction thing in skyreach last boss?

empty ice
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I have hero tier heart

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zero actives = zug zug

indigo arch
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gaze from vault= can bonus roll something other than mythic heart

empty ice
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mythic gaze i think u mean

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but yes

indigo arch
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mythic alnseer*

empty ice
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my thoughts exactly

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ok good

indigo arch
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I may have had "orange juice" tonight

empty ice
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it passes the 1 other guy in fury discord test

hot shell
empty ice
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the most credible test on the planet

gentle badge
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dog i bonus rolled heroic chim kill and got tier token...looted warbound gaze from boss though lmao

gentle badge
empty ice
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i still have a hero 2h

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💀

fiery edge
gentle badge
fiery edge
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yesh gladge

oblique thistle
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dang the boss dam looks p good

gentle badge
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yeah boss damage was my fave part, idk how my prio damage looked, but from what i heard from nox slayer is good boss/prio dam and MT more pad/overalls

oblique thistle
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makes sense

hot shell
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Thats why people love col. ST isnt that good but prio target on funnel is just insane

oblique thistle
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Colo is great unless your tank is a dumbass and doesn't pull trash onto the boss for whatever reason

hot shell
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Indeed. But im happy i can play fury now. I just like the asthetic more

oblique thistle
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Me too

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always been a fury enjoyer

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arms felt p good this season but

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I want more st

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outside of just funnel I should say

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and slury is fun

hot shell
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Slarms is also big fun
But i just love that heavy plated Berserker fantasy too much

oblique thistle
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I tried the new slarms build that drops battlelord

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its interesting

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But fury feels so damn smooth man

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compared to arms

hot shell
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I dont agree. It only feels off when you ragestarve for whatever reason. Bringing a sham neglects that

oblique thistle
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I mean

hot shell
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Col feels very very smooth

oblique thistle
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with arms even when you are not rage starved

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sometimes rng can just kinda make you feel bad

hot shell
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I always feel bad when i see myself below the uhdk keks

oblique thistle
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that must be a universal feeling with most classes rn lol

hot shell
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Its not thaaaat horrible.. but still feels bad

final vapor
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Yes arms seems better

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At least top on overall

sly pasture
final vapor
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Even though ST sucks

floral bay
grand vale
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no tank?

floral bay
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bm?

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its right there mate 😄

grand vale
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Oh that is monk

oblique thistle
grand vale
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sry thought it was evoker because of darker green

hot shell
fiery edge
floral bay
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I wasnt asking bc of that tbh. Just wondering what Im gonna play later. I wanna play Fury but I guess its still gonna be Col

hot shell
hot shell
floral bay
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sitting in q as fury was a miserable experience tbh

hot shell
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Sit in queue as arms and specc fury when pulltimer starts.
Thats how some locks and hunters do it

floral bay
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i was doing that as well sometimes but its kinda diabolic lmao

dry ether
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boys what is the right way to sim for fury slayer now?

hot shell
lusty jungle
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If they invite you, you know the group is doomed to fail

obtuse karma
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Guys whats our priority in execute phase, BT or Execute?
As mountain thane

olive wraith
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Bt

hot shell
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Bt always

obtuse karma
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Shieeeet

olive wraith
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?

hot shell
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If u like execute play slayer, problem solved

obtuse karma
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What would take priority as a filler, Tclap or Raging blow?

neat coral
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Depends on how many targets I’m pretty sure

obtuse karma
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aight

digital mauve
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So how are fury buffs?

obtuse karma
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feels 5% better xd

fleet yarrow
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The manaflux crystals are so dumb to me xD

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I haven't done 1 piece of Mythic raiding
Yet I have 3/4 tier set being mythic gear

native wadi
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I think the same but if it wasnt that way people would cry like crazy

obtuse karma
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Dumb? Its great. 0 mythic raids

olive wraith
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Is manaflux catalyst?

clever raft
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ye manaflux is catalyst

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well thats the point of it innit?

olive wraith
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Ye I don’t see why it’s a bad thing

obtuse karma
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Its one of the only good things that came with this expansion xd

fleet yarrow
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I kinda dislike it

olive wraith
olive wraith
obtuse karma
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It came with patch 12.0

olive wraith
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It’s been around since at least Df

clever raft
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catalyst been around for a while boy xD

obtuse karma
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Im talking about tmog not catalyst

olive wraith
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Then clarify that

obtuse karma
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Whos talking about catalyst xd

hot shell
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Alright guys

obtuse karma
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If you want to be technical they did come this expansion xd

gleaming yoke
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How is fury doing after buffs?

olive wraith
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Catalyst didn’t though

hot shell
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Im gonna go open vault. If there is haste mast ring from npx or hand pieces ill go fury again okayge

olive wraith
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With that logic “omg rend is a brand new ability”

digital mauve
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for the great vault and Gaze should I spec to prot to get it ? I already looted the other trinket of Chimaerus on Mythic

obtuse karma
hot shell
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So chance is the same

olive wraith
digital mauve
random shadow
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Or was it vault or drop

digital mauve
random shadow
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Then it wont come again for bonus rolls so switching to prot doesnt matter for bonus loot

olive wraith
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Opening vault as prot sounds sus

hot shell
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Aight lads

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Lets hope vault is good

random shadow
hot shell
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gimme haste mastery ring so i can go fury 🙏

random shadow
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If your vault hits on dreamrift ita 50 for gaze as prot loot spec

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Bit of you land on imp you may roll a shield etc

random shadow
hot shell
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what the fuck is this

random shadow
olive wraith
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This is a vault

random shadow
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That's not bad tho. Box or ring

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Sign blizzard wants you to stay arms clearly

hot shell
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SCrew the box

random shadow
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I remember when I started as fury. Then blizzard gave me mythic void ring in vault. Little did I know in the upcoming weeks I was swapping to arms. And I didnt need to bonus roll nexus

digital mauve
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ok shit vault

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I guess I shoudl take the 6 thalassian token?

random shadow
digital mauve
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already got myth shoulder, crafted bracers, crafted neck

ember leaf
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isnt necklace goated

digital mauve
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and the cloack ant great

digital mauve
ember leaf
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o nvm

digital mauve
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the cloack got versa on it so huh

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but I dont even know what the 6 token are

random shadow
# digital mauve

Well the issue id you didnt do 8 keys. Whats your shoulders rn

ember leaf
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cant you catalyst the cape

digital mauve
random shadow
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Then ye take tokens

digital mauve
random shadow
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Probably either a roll or a socket. Sim it

ember leaf
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socket gear

random shadow
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For 6 tokens

fair solstice
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how many weeks have passed and still no vorasius trinket, not even hc

hot shell
fair solstice
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sad life

digital mauve
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Ok so I can have my 2 regular weekely roll + 1 for DJ?

random shadow
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If you take the bonus roll from vault yes

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Is the time i start taking sockets from vaults unless i get the last gear pieces i need to cata

lusty jungle
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The undreamt ooze is speaking to me

digital mauve
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or socket my myth 289 helm

random shadow
outer rover
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Fury Slayer now prioritizes Execute above Bloodbath in single target, while multitarget prioritizes both Execute and Rampage over Bloodbath/Bloodthirst.

does that mean even execute without Sd higher prio than bb?

random shadow
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Nexus light ring?

digital mauve
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I guess crit mastery and a socket is good for a ring? I saw top fury player wearing it

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Bifurcation band, MT ring

random shadow
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Sim it. Just cause he has it doesnt mean its good for you

random shadow
olive wraith
digital mauve
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nope don't have it

random shadow
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Surely a mast verse isnt as good then nexus haste mastery for you

digital mauve
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no light or dark on mythic

random shadow
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Surly

visual vale
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Is there way to add different item in raidbots simc profile?
(want to sim crit vers cloak too before taking it)

olive wraith
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Top gear

random shadow
visual vale
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thanks

iron kernel
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hey, so thane > colossus arms now in m+?

olive wraith
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Nah

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Colo has higher ceiling

undone flower
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@winter shoal your addon seem to bug too

summer quail
iron kernel
visual vale
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lel, socket in head sims higher than change 276 haste mastery cloak to 289 with crit vers

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how can it be? simming just patchwerk 5m in

grand vale
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Does heroic l'ura ring sim higher than mythic other ones?

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Or does it depend on your own haste value

summer quail
worn shuttle
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My AOTC guild prog'd M Vorsasius today, pretty happy with my dam but boy does it feel bad to get shit on my a UH DK parsing a 37

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Ended up playing Thane, couldn't get the same dam with Slayer

random shadow
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Its also a tuseday reset

ember apex
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how come dh bar is half blue question him on that shi fr

worn shuttle
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But I learned a bit of where I can improve for next time

ember apex
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I think so hehe

worn shuttle
manic tapir
worn shuttle
summer quail
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hey crit i know you're not streaming today so to make it feel like a stream: is fury better than arms now in m+? @mossy fox

pearl sequoia
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thats a GREAT question

hot shell
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No

grand vale
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is bm that strong atm or just in that fight?

mossy fox
worn shuttle
vague stump
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played abit of thane this morning in 19 seat its definitely viable but doesnt feel like super ahead seems quite on par w colossus now tbh

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but I think slayer could be pretty big for AA

frank crystal
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Fury slayer btter in keys then arms colo ??

hot shell
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Keep in mind thane is padding Col is prio/funnel

frosty ibex
vague stump
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bro hows it padding

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please

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everything has to die

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you still have decent prio on main target

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if thats the case when my ever invite ferral into phys comp theyre legit all pad

hot shell
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Bringing lashers down in AA as example. Its great that youve padded everything else to death, the lashers will still eat your tank if they dont die

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Doesnt matter too much if u play col or thane, just keep dsmage Profiles in mind

worn shuttle
vague stump
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tbh the only thing I hate with col is you have to build routes around the funnel with thane I think its gonna be alot more pug friendly especially in keys like mt,sky,AA hell probs most of them tbh outside of MC

hidden crystal
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Well I hope Thane aint taking over, cause I just bonus rolled in pit and got all the crit haste gear for Arms 😂

rare helm
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im fully arms now too xD

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and im enjoying it more

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in adittion i also tank sometimes and crit haste has more sinergy with protection than mastery

hot shell
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Every single .1% player will tell you prio damage is the most important damage. It allows you to chain faster, have bigger pulls, yada yada yada.

Thane is good, damage is good. Just add a prio target class to account for it and youre gucci

vague stump
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I think theyre the same now definitely in overall damage anyway I will have to properly check logs for prio dmg to see but for sure its better than before

hot shell
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The overall on thane is great, again there is no reason not to play it

vague stump
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as dracz said it will depend on comp but if ur running ret rogue instead of ferral then I think its deffo an option

weary violet
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i would love to play slayer fury instead of thane

vague stump
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if they buff reap to like 25% chance then I think we will be gaming slayer

hot shell
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I hate ferals. They have low st and all pad in cd bursts

vague stump
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but without the reap buff 20% chance is too low

worn shuttle
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I just cant bring myself to enjoy Slayer

wise apex
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What would people play in M+ now Thane or Slayer?

vague stump
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aoe is better as slayer sure but its still not good enough at least in like the highest end keys anyway

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I mean if ur doing 16s -18 keys you can play whatever u want I think

weary violet
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is it good enough for 0,1% title? :>

hot shell
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...eh?

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Slayer on aoe is worse and less consistant

vague stump
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I mean its better than before lol

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but its still bad

hot shell
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Oh lmao. Yeah it is, but thane still better for aoe situations

worn shuttle
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In low keys where shit dies fast Slayer is cool

hot shell
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But then again, slayer has better prio and ST

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So pick your poison

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I wouldnt Team a thane with a feral. Id fefo Team a slayer with a feral tho

vague stump
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again will depend on comp and what key your doing tbh

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yeah I think so im gonna do abit more testing in abit with some logs so when I try slayer in some higher content rather than a +12 pit for a roll lol

tired bane
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Hello everyone - sorry to ask, this may have been asked a bazillion time

For MM raiding we are still rocking MT right?

hot shell
vague stump
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yeah I'll try cooking some shit but as you said it isn't all about overall dmg as slayer will deffo lose that battle its just the prio t damage if it makes it faster

hot shell
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Enjoy testing my guy okayge Remember the most important Aspect is having fun while gaming

fiery edge
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i just cant have fun sadge

sly merlin
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i know dungeon logs dont really matter but this is swag to see

graceful rapids
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anyone notice fury wanting alot more crit using sims

sly merlin
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yes

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i think its because we get so much value from eyes of the eagle enchant with recklesness

graceful rapids
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good, just making sure its not some weird oddity

compact knot
sly merlin
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yes

dawn crypt
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so with the new tuning, whats the play Arms or Fury for M+ ?

sly merlin
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sadly it was only an 17 bc i was doing keys w my frens

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and i didnt log the 18 pit i supa pumped on

compact knot
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I need to find out how to autolog again

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I did it through weakauras

sly merlin
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i thought bigwigs or raider io did it

compact knot
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Think there is a addon but I'm lazy

sly merlin
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but it was fucked for one of my friends and it didnt owrk

graceful rapids
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exwind does i think

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autolog

pearl gate
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Are the builds here still relevant after patch yesterday?

undone flower
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Shift + windows + S

vague stump
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^^

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but in reply no nothing has changed at this moment in time

floral belfry
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What are people playing for Dragons and Paladins reclear today??

vague stump
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arms still ahead by quite abit in 2t

visual vale
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i really wonder for what reason I could lose like 6-7k dps just with that simple rotation
cannot exceed 68k even on a long run, when sims shows almost 75k on dummy
latency?

no crucial, but interesting

vague stump
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although idk maybe gonna try abit of slayer on paladins tomorrow

visual vale
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i prio exec proc over all except ragecap rampage/odyn/reck/bs

undone flower
strong lion
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hey everyone is arms still better or is fury good to go for m+?

vague stump
compact knot
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They are both close

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Arms will do slightly more dps imo however

strong lion
visual vale
strong lion
stoic star
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Is there a website or a content creator that makes videos on showing all the TECH in M+ used in higher keys? Or you just gotta watch full videos of the top timed keys.

compact knot
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Critcake might have some videos or shorts

haughty carbon
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Hello ! The patch in EU is here ?? Some people say no

lusty jungle
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we are so back

stoic star
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Doesn't need to be specific to warrior but yeah ill just go watch some of the top players full video playthroughs aagain. ty

visual vale
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check out Noxiv videos on youtube he does 20 keys in fury and arms

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but there is no detailed breakdown, as I understood

undone flower
# vague stump HJAHA

he instantly jumps on the chimaerus adds when they pop out of dream phase, killing ppl

vague stump
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I mean I am gonna start doing that in my myth raids tbh need to get some better than blue logs on chimmy

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high 90s to bosses blue parse

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go figure

undone flower
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i did a 98 once, i can rest on that pad boss

vague stump
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yeah I mean my 2 DHs wlocks fucking boomie just sending on adds

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insta pop then cant hit when upstairs

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blah fucking blah

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maybe its just a slayer angle now for reclears just to get out there quick

compact knot
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That's what i did

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Pretty color

undone flower
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gio did r1

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i did miss wcl .5 reset technology this time

brave silo
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with recent patch i see cast bars on my party frames, how do i disable that

indigo arch
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slayer fury kinda piping crest keys

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holy moly

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6 7

vapid wing
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Anyone know if the bonus rolls are per difficulty? I did dreamrift on heroic so far and idk if i shoudl go on mythic for the trinket

stray bolt
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Don't send rerolls on heroic!

compact knot
untold steeple
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hero raid bonus rolls, only give hero items, so so not roll on hero

compact knot
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And no it doesn't work that way

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Heroic loot table is different from mythic

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Or atleast should be id imagine nobody has tested

subtle lagoon
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Using rolls on anything other than m+ and m raid is trolling

hidden kite
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^

vapid wing
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yea last week i used it on heroic

stray bolt
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Darn 🙁

vapid wing
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i mean i want to try a mythic group but idk if i can :))

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i was just curious if i start from scratch if i do mythic raid from now on cause in that case i won t :))

stray bolt
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Yeah, your mythic reroll table will be fresh

vapid wing
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I don t play with a guild so i feel like i ll rarely get into mythic pugs

stray bolt
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you won't have anything eliminated

vapid wing
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oh damn that sucks

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at least i don t have to bother with a mythic pug then :))

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thanks

still silo
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New changes feel good

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Back to slayer best in raids which is nice for MT

bleak bluff
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any switchers from arms? to thane?

still silo
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I think arms will still perform better overall in M+

bleak bluff
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was wondering if any feedback
im asian server which resets on thursday

still silo
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And on certain bosses in raid

bleak bluff
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darn for some reason i feel more comfortable with fury but i know for sure i do better overall as arms

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my comfort zone and ourput zone is fighting

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output

still silo
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I’m not 100% on it though, would have to sim it all

bleak bluff
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Archi sims show that fury thane seems to be higher, but im guessing thats aoe i 5 targets?

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anything above 5 arms will do better i guess

still silo
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If archi sims are showing better then I’d take his word on it

fiery edge
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yep, also depends on how tank is pulling

still silo
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But yeah not sure about target size

bleak bluff
#

yeah he is the professor of warrior discord lol

compact knot
#

I wish he wouldn't post those Sims except st

#

It's baiting people hard

still silo
#

It’s very hard to sim m+ because every tank is different

tardy lark
#

he posts them cause people would reeeeee if he didnt

fiery edge
#

i have no expectations, and keep dooming til next expac keks

tardy lark
#

they would just pop up elsewhere and be less peer reviewed than they are here

hidden kite
#

Fury lets goo

compact knot
indigo arch
#

Kinda wanna try rampaging ruin as fury in AA

strong lion
#

do we still replace massacre with enraged gen in high keys?

indigo arch
#

despite the CBT of using the cancelaura

compact knot
#

While it very well could just be the best of the 4 now after playing it a bit

tardy lark
#

people would be clamoring for them if he didnt publicize them

#

and still a meta forms at some point

untold steeple
#

Is there any reliable information yet on whether Slayer is now better than Mountain Thane in M+

compact knot
#

Disclaimer perhaps

tardy lark
#

the problem surrounding it right now is just that people dont have real data, only hypothetical sim scenarios

compact knot
#

Oh

#

It does have a disclaimer

bleak bluff
#

my boss damage as arms is so bad i feel guilty when doing boss dps.
some tanks who know this actually put trash next to boss but very difficult to expect in pugs

tardy lark
#

and people will have strawman or "what if" arguments if its chosen a way they dont like

compact knot
tardy lark
#

people are dum dum and dont want to think for themselves

compact knot
#

By existing

bleak bluff
#

whereas fury boss dps is just good and dont have to rely on tanks

bleak bluff
compact knot
#

I'm very geared

#

But yeah I'm doing 90k-100k boss dps

#

Last boss magisters I did 104k without lust

#

Obviously good rng but

#

Then with funnel you pull like 130k st dps

#

Also you need a shaman or else you won't do that much dps and instead like 80k

still silo
#

Good thing is, execute feels good to press now

#

Hallelujah

tardy lark
#

MS doesnt though xdd

still silo
#

Not in arms lel

#

In fury

#

Execute is now prio over BT

valid pulsar
#

or are you talking about fury

compact knot
#

Slarms

knotty sonnet
#

is fury slayer good for m+ now ?

terse ether
#

Dilemma :

difference is small between rings

final vapor
#

Slayer or thane?

still silo
#

That’s the issue with arms tbh, you are so reliant on a shaman in the group it’s crazy

indigo arch
#

I'm just weighing between slayer arms and thane fury for m+ now

#

Gonna be doing 18s and hopefully 19s etc after I round out 17 resil

#

pure pug

#

arms is holding my crafted 2h and wrist hostage

tiny seal
still silo
#

theres no shot wowhead shows wrath and fury talented into thane MT lol

#

ah no it doesnt im blind, thats not MT

digital mauve
still silo
#

yeah

#

only slayer

#

i was more talking for raids

icy whale
#

cloak has speed, pick that? i have a crafted 285 cloak, hc 276 wrist, hc 276 belt, hc 276 neck on arms

sage ridge
#

You can always pick the tokens for an extra reroll

#

Belt might be worth it over a hc belt

icy whale
#

i was planning to go for terrace bonus rolls

#

i could get belt there possibly

fiery edge
#

took morbillion years to get accepted in pug

icy whale
#

however socket or voidcore does sound nice too..

deft palm
#

did you guys feel a difference with the buffs

polar narwhal
#

or add a socket anywhere

#

bonus roll is eh, depending on what you have left

vale reef
#

To be honest I think it still happens with my addon, might have gotten better with 12.0.5, lowkey a blizzard issue

icy whale
#

it bis list with bonus stat (speed)

coral kite
#

Hello wanted to ask since I don't have much experience as a warrior after the changes is fury warrior better than arms ?

knotty sonnet
#

should i not be getting guaranteed reap the storms when i BT during recklessness ?

robust kernel
#

has our ST build fully changed for most fights now to slayer instead of mountian thane?

full osprey
#

Fury slayer or fury thane for raid ?

charred path
#

Are people playing thane or slayer for crown?

robust kernel
#

i think we take slayer, i just simmed my ST and slayer is ahead of thane by about 6k

rare helm
#

sorry my noob question. why do we do more damage with shaman on group?

robust kernel
#

yes we do

outer rover
random estuary
#

shaman has a mastery buff and we like mastery. it also buffs autos which gives warriors resources, which is a huge deal for arms (which is why arms gets more like 12% dps), but i believe fury mostly just likes the mastery

deep ridge
#

shaman buff gives us more attacks = more attacks = more zug zug

rare helm
#

any shaman spec?

deep ridge
#

yep

rare helm
#

nice to know, thx

frank harbor
#

someone have an updated spech for slayer ? ( with stance ? i heard that stance is taken in slayer )

hard widget
#

Stance mastery is good because it basically makes u immortal

#

If you use def stance atleast

frank harbor
#

yes i know ( and i use it even without the spec point ) but someone have a uptadet specxialisation tree ? ^^

fiery edge
#

all on wowhead

warm crag
dusk knot
#

fury still in the dumbster... just did less than druid tank in overall ..

floral bay
#

whats like a good overall for Skyreach 18-19 as MT

fickle stirrup
#

Slayer Fury fucks aside from the desync it puts in work. Was happy to see my ST sit over 100k and stay there lol

native wadi
#

Fury can easily do 140-160K overall anywhere

south kayak
#

Lmao

dusk knot
#

warlock are sitting at 190k btw, and we are happy with 140k

south kayak
#

Just saw Noxiv do 190k

dusk knot
stoic echo
#

I think that's a you issue

#

WS21 just now, we depleted on 3rd boss but still

#

died twice mid pull

gaunt vale
#

people who always blame outside factors honestly make me feel weird… how does anyone even end up like that? it’s just you bro, you’re pressing the wrong buttons

digital ore
#

Delusional

#

They'd rather blame some nonexistant boogeyman than their own lack of skill

#

I'm really enjoying these buffs ngl, feels good

stoic echo
#

do we ACTUALLY wanna press tclap all the time in CDs in 6+ targets

#

it feels kinda bad to giga prio thunder blast and tclap with max rage, BT up and only one tblast stack

native wadi
native wadi
native wadi
#

21? Big balls

#

Queue simulator

fleet yarrow
#

Only heroic but

#

I feel like the rotation is like 100x simpler

delicate thicket
warm crag
fickle stirrup
#

And how many GCDs is that?

warm crag
#

can just go hit a target dummy and count

#

its 1 for avatar and 3? for non avatar

robust kernel
#

so do we just fully take slayer now for ST and MT and just thane for m+?

still silo
#

Looks that way

lone shore
#

I just got Eternal voidsong chain from the vault , how do I proc shadow damage as fury warr ?

still silo
#

Not sure about vanguards/dragons though

onyx belfry
#

with rings and stuff

queen aspen
still silo
late lava
#

so what % did fury receive?

still silo
desert cloud
#

are there any talent changes to fury ?

still silo
#

No talent changes

fringe citrus
#

help , (already have hero gaze, have hero legs , want the myth legs they have avoidance also

desert cloud
#

do a dung or raid use reroll

#

then pick whatever u didnt get

pearl sequoia
#

if ur bonus rolling dungeons u might get a myth plate leg anyways

#

id just send a myth gaze

fleet yarrow
#

Don't you just take gaze here everyday?

subtle lagoon
#

Gaze is pretty big, and you get to save 2 bonus rolls to be used in m+

#

can probably get legs off m+

pearl sequoia
#

would be ez prep for item upgrade to 290 or whatever the fkc it is to

fading sky
#

gaze

#

its half the rolls

fringe citrus
#

stats wise its 3 more str

#

for gaze stacks

#

its nothing

fading sky
#

esp as fury id guess u are hard going for NPX rolls

#

npx has legs

#

so theres nn to take legs imho

fringe citrus
#

yeah I am going for npx

#

you are right

pearl sequoia
#

how easy is it to get a myth gaze vs get any myth legs

#

lol

fringe citrus
#

okay Ill get gaze thanks guys

fickle stirrup
woeful birch
#

When we upgrade our weapon to 298 next week can we upgrade the 2nd 2h for free to 298? Are there information about this yet?

gaunt vale
#

no, it’s item-bound, not slot-bound

fickle stirrup
#

Would you up a Myth Weap to 298 even if it has meh stats over a crafted 285?

bitter palm
#

is so peak

fickle stirrup
#

Dont have Voidcleaver Myth but do have Two-Ton

bitter palm
#

@stoic echo can u try this in a real key

#

in aoe spam exe and cleave

#

ms with 2x ep if cs is up

#

otherwise exe/op

stoic echo
bitter palm
#

idk im doing 110k st

#

idk how

#

must have skyfury tho

stoic echo
#

yeah this sim is with phys comp buffs

radiant plank
#

something something sims arent real

#

for keyes

#

whatever the m+ copers say

stoic echo
#

based

bitter palm
#

exe is top overall

#

and its peak

#

@radiant plank slayer is finally slayer

stoic echo
#

no battlelord = no fun

bitter palm
#

not a bad tradeoff

#

for having exe top overall

stoic echo
#

yeah but in return you are fucked if you never get windfury procs

hard widget
bitter palm
#

nitpicking

#

chatting

marble apex
#

not bad but not feeling the same on M+ dont know why

radiant plank
#

The thing about fury is

#

that it sims so nicely

#

but holy is it dogshit in real content

bitter palm
#

thane was simming the same as colo

#

before

#

in aoe

radiant plank
#

I have never seen fury do the same as it sims

bitter palm
#

yet colo was just gapping it

stoic echo
#

noxiv is pumpin tbf

radiant plank
#

Thane is 100% RNG jailed for aoe

#

and so is slurry

hard widget
#

Thats because sims are not always compareable to real keys

radiant plank
#

Colossus is the way

#

0% rng

#

0 rage

bitter palm
radiant plank
#

max damage for every moment

lyric panther
#

0 ST

bitter palm
#

just pull funnel

#

ez

radiant plank
#

Colossus walks in

#

and deals the same damage

#

regardless of procs etc

stoic echo
#

ez

hard widget
#

🤔

bitter palm
#

ez

#

(i have aug in maisara 2nd boss)

stoic echo
#

arms propagnda in #fury wthelly

radiant plank
#

Can I cancelaura my team mate outlaws BF for him

#

ty

bitter palm
#

they gain nothing fo bf right

stoic echo
#

dw man my team mate is assa

bitter palm
#

from*

desert cloud
#

guys fury slayer plays the same in raid as before patch right ?

radiant plank
stoic echo
#

col + assa = huge

#

huge ass

#

thats why we swapping to thane

radiant plank
#

Thane to kill the nothing burger small adds

#

every 7th pack

#

cuz your blast didnt proc

#

eta gg

stoic echo
#

i mean

#

sometimes your blast no proc

#

but sometime

#

blast proc big

#

its kinda like slayer fury last season

#

sometimes you get a billion reaps

#

and sometimes you get 0

#

it is what it is

warm crag
#

Im just telling you the raw CD of tc

#

Target count doesnt affect it

hard widget
#

@warm crag tell me bro, what am i gonna play, whats ur hot take

#

I can see a cheeky fury angle here and there

fleet yarrow
#

in m+

native island
sly pasture
#

there's no way to actually force reaps right?

native wadi
native wadi
#

Not big

fleet yarrow
native wadi
#

We must sandbag

#

Have we learnt nothinggggg

fleet yarrow
#

Probably also helps that rotation prio is

#

super simple

#

even more simple

native wadi
#

Fury sucks in keys is just great to play brain off

#

Clap clap clap

sly pasture
#

Let ekm rephrase... there's no way to force SD is there? XD

#

Sometimes I feel like I can will it into existance

ocean zephyr
#

Biz made that really nice arms video a while back. Is there anything equal for fury?

rotund ginkgo
#

4 REAPS BACK TO BACK

#

THE POWER

#

You know what's better than 4 reaps back to back

#

5 OF THEM HOES

native wadi
#

To be homest that felt great

#

S3 tww

rotund ginkgo
#

we get 1 season of being good and dk is going "thank you" up and down on blizzard for 2 expansions

native wadi
#

And we really said it

#

We got rend instead

dusky charm
#

So do we go fury mt for lightblinded or still arms? Anyone test yet?

rotund ginkgo
#

For vanguard arms probs still bis but u can kinda play w.e

subtle lagoon
#

I think arms has the edge there but fury isn't a troll pick anymore

rotund ginkgo
#

It's not an important boss really

dusky charm
#

💯

fickle stirrup
#

Does Burst of Power get ignored in AoE during CDs unless you need the rage?

humble lark
#

is slayer close to thane in keys?

pearl sequoia
uneven elbow
#

Hello, This is my Vault and idk which of these items to choose. (I dont have Gaze 😢 )

dense elbow
pearl sequoia
#

with the rolls ur just gonna be building towards a bis list of m+ gear

dense elbow
#

Mythic boots is from the dreamer tho, so do that first

floral belfry
#

whats best for keys now tell me

polar narwhal
polar narwhal
polar narwhal
pearl sequoia
#

thane will be more consistent

dense elbow
#

Slayer be more fun

stoic loom
stoic loom
#

just one shot a cheeky lil +18 alg

#

over 100k dps on every boss with no mobs brought in

#

as thane

#

100k dps st

fleet yarrow
#

But even then I feel the single target boost

stoic loom
#

i mean u're gonna feel the single target boost more as slayer

#

since it got a 10% buff

#

im gonna try my next key as slayer, should smash bosses

fleet yarrow
#

But like it feels weird that bloodbath is lower prio then rampage/execute

#

at all times

pliant wasp
#

super unsure which hero spec i prefer rn

bitter palm
#

couldve done way more but only a 15

strong monolith
#

I thought this was the fury channel

fleet yarrow
#

it is

subtle lagoon
oak folio
#

so how does fury compare to arms after tuning for m+?

lost reef
#

Arms is still way better but atleast the gap got a bit closer

marble apex
fleet yarrow
#

Slayer

marble apex
#

i have to try it

somber nebula
#

soooo fury slayer is the best one on st now?

desert cloud
#

the guy who told me it was a skill issue iswtg it was a group issue went from 25 log to 99

#

he probably remembers

hard widget
bitter palm
rotund ginkgo
subtle iron
#

step one, run your own key

strong monolith
#

Seriously

bitter palm
#

he is like

#

4k rio

strong monolith
#

yeah and?

spring lantern
#

his key is not a 10 xD

#

dropping your key from a 21 or 20 to a 10 for weekly on wednesday would be insane

dense brook
#

does anyone know whats the best talent to swap if u wanna go rampaging ruin ?

trail locust
static trellis
#

as someone who's a bit of a tard, what's the actual discernible difference between the M+ Fury build and the Raid Fury build?

gusty plinth
#

Utility (Raid) vs CC (M+)

static trellis
#

makes sense, tyvm

#

to me, on the face of it, they're essentially the same thing lol

cursive sierra
#

it is

gusty plinth
#

Yes and no

#

I would must rather have intervene in raid vs cc in a non applicable encounter

#

But run what’s most comfortable at the end of the day

#

Sims don’t matter if you struggle to stay alive

warm crag
#

Who is pressing intervene in the year of the lord 2026

static trellis
#

@gusty plinth - I just want to Unga Bunga things, mate

#

😂

gusty plinth
#

I meant interpose

#

And just last night I saved a healer with it

warm crag
#

It mitigates like no damage id be surprised if it did

gusty plinth
#

Let me think I’m being helpful with the garbage warrior utility

warm crag
#

idk man you can press rally

#

kinda broken button

pearl sequoia
#

thats why warriors are brought to raid right'

#

the goat rally

warm crag
#

one of the reasons youd bring more than one historically yeah

#

if the damage is tuned fine

pearl sequoia
#

who cares about damage

#

if nobody dies becasue of rally we kill boss

warm crag
#

bad faith ragebait competition and you walk in

#

fuuuuck

pearl sequoia
#

👌

gusty plinth
#

Got my first pink parse ever last night. Ik it’s only heroic but hey I’m still proud

fleet yarrow
#

good old

#

reap the storm dmg

#

*tots not just padding on voidlings lul

warm crag
#

thane reap the storm

gusty plinth
warm crag
#

terrifying

gusty plinth
#

I’ve always preferred slayer for first 3 bosses

strong monolith
#

guys is thane getting nerfed

light osprey
#

Is slayer now on par with MT? Or we still playing mt?

stoic thistle
#

any ideas how we can convince blizz to revert slayer fury to how it was in TWW s3

drifting token
#

no thank you

gusty plinth
somber nebula
#

does anyone know if you can get allerias neck from bonus roll?

worn rain
#

haters gonna hate

fiery edge
#

Tww s3 slayers? sadge

stoic thistle
#

I miss spamming raging blow and looking at those nice spins

light osprey
#

How about for mythic plus. Is mt or slayer the move

stoic thistle
fiery edge
#

Slayer didn’t hook me enough, i’m jailed with thane

full rampart
full rampart
stoic thistle
south kayak
fleet yarrow
#

Because whats better than 1 bladestorm?

#

thats right

#

2 bladestorms

south kayak
#

fair

heavy dock
sour pollen
#

is puzzle box + gaze ass high keys ?

cinder fable
grave pike
#

what about myth raid? swapping over to slayer?

cinder fable
#

Probably on most fights yes

fleet yarrow
#

Tbh its sorta just a perfect acceptation of fury

#

Either your gonna be perma uptiming gigachad

#

Or your not and gonna hit like a wet noodle

#

Might as well double down

sage ridge
#

Gaze and Heart

radiant plank
#

what are we comparing here

terse ether
#

thane vs slayer

radiant plank
#

uhh

#

idk

#

pick what you like

#

idk

drifting token
#

what exactly do you need help with

#

looks like you have your answer

vague stump
#

anyone else whos playing slayer noticed that sudden death seems to proc more now?

#

is it just me

#

high rolling or have they changed something?

dreamy pebble
#

should i take a second vault weapon over the crafted one? which embellishment i go second then?

wheat meteor
sly pasture
#

I remember why I stopped playing fury. 6 dungeons in and my wrist is killing me

vague stump
#

haha yeah

#

carpel tunnel

#

big time

#

does anyone know if ww is still higher prio than RB in aoe?

sly pasture
#

gonn a get rampage and BT on some floor pedals

fleet pulsar
#

detail bug with aoe talent on rampage :

vague stump
#

dont play ruin

#

ever

fleet pulsar
#

i tried x)

hardy cairn
#

Hey guys

#

With the recents buffs, is slayer better than thane for m+?

merry night
native wadi
#

Destruction Frenetique

unreal onyx
#

@dense elbow ilvl check

jagged socket
#

cant remember for slayer do we hold bs for reck or just rip it on cd

and if assuming m+ pack already has been hit with bs prior for overwhelmed, does that change whether to rip or hold?

radiant plank
#

reck bs

sullen tendon
wheat meteor
sullen tendon
#

Ruin is not worth it at all

#

It replaces rampage

#

Even though it doesn’t say it does

wheat meteor
#

i mean, it deals 40% less damage, but to all targets reduced beyond 8

#

and with a cancel aura macro, you can use it to still deal full single target damage

sullen tendon
#

So yea if you are constantly pulling 10+ mobs it may edge out rampage a little but in realistic scenarios sacrificing your cleave and st fo minimal uncapped aoe gain isn’t worth it

wheat meteor
#

well, it reduced prio damage. but it doesnt reduce single target if youre using a cancel aura macro

sullen tendon
#

There aren’t many scenarios where it’s worth.

#

Maybe the aa pull

#

Maybe a few pulls in pit

wheat meteor
sullen tendon
#

But overall you’re sacrificing so much damage

wheat meteor
#

its also showing up as 4 different abilities. smh

hybrid cargo
#

If you need ruin damage in aa you shouldn't be doing the key

sullen tendon
#

Yea

#

I stopped using base ui after giving it a 1 week chance because of that

#

It doesn’t count abilities as one

hybrid cargo
#

I tried it once when I was like 10 farming, never again

sullen tendon
#

Think it does it for like half our abilities

hybrid cargo
#

So is wowhead just not updated yet or is rb still less prio than rend and wrack

wheat meteor
#

does anyoneknow how many targets is necessary before ruin becomes better?

drifting token
#

just dont run it

sly pasture
#

okay slayer is a fucking vibe when you get the procs in m+

daring laurel
#

Can also read when it got updated last

grave pike
#

we fully convert to slayer in raid now or? some bosses MT

sly pasture
#

I'd feel like paladins and dragons are likely still MT fights

hybrid cargo
#

Its so frustrating to prio spells that dont even generate rage over rb

frosty scroll
#

whats the better dps spec for giga high keys rn

daring laurel
#

You can check raider.io and see what people playing at high keys

sly pasture
#

Colossus probbaly

daring laurel
#

But maybe wait a few days and check back, since patch hasnt been out for even a day

#

Colo arms is safe bet tho

sullen tendon
#

I don’t want to be at work I want to apply to 20 keys

small fog
#

What is the stats difference from Fury>Arms? Is the mas/haste a loss in arms?

sullen tendon
#

Fury haste mast some crit arms haste crit

turbid gate
#

fury m+ we still use than right?

drifting token
#

can use both but thane will be more consistent

vagrant garden
vague stump
#

were back

#

we did have lust but they sent after I had already rek and bladestormed

#

slayer actually seems quite viable tbh its definitely alot lower aoe but you seem like you have real good prio

fading sky
#

Boss man!!!

civic radish
#

In particular, this should put Fury Slayer's sustained multitarget very close to Thane (potentially even higher with **effective use of Ruin**) Archi stated this with the tuning updates, does anyone have the ruin build?

vague stump
#

yeah dont play it

#

you need v specific conditions for it to work

#

like over 8t it makes it somewhat viable however you lose so much prio t damage its just not viable in anyway shape or form

sullen tendon
#

Basically you will get kicked for not killing seers in nexus and not killing lashers in aa

vague stump
#

slayer is super fun and definitely more viable now though its deffo behind thane but its 100% more viable to play than before

opaque mortar
#

I saw in #updates-midnight that we can pick up IWW and ignore the rend button for minimal loss. Are we dropping rend entirely from the warrior tree or just not pressing it. And what are we dropping in the fury tree to grab IWW

sullen tendon
#

You need rend talented for it to apply

#

You just don’t need to press it

vague stump
#

you have dont have to press it

#

if you press ww you get rend now

sullen tendon
#

Don’t even know why rend is a talent still

#

It should just be part of these abilities

#

Wasting a talent spot

opaque mortar
#

Kk so still need to talent. Shame it doesn't work like Deep wounds for arms.

What are we dropping fury tree then for IWW?

sullen tendon
#

Probably some middle talent

#

Like the raging blow refund ones

#

I don’t have it open in front of me

rigid dove
#

Tell me which talents/build are stronger for Mythic+,please.

drifting token
#

Just run the same Thane build as always and call it a day.

night marlin
toxic plank
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Thane should be more consistent

toxic plank
rigid dove
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can fury compete with Arms now?

lyric panther
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no

drifting token
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...yes lol

red berry
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buff fury one more time for the love of the game

loud zinc
# rigid dove can fury compete with Arms now?

yeah, it’s just not easy to compare them because their profiles are so different. fury is much more balanced—even on slayer. arms is way more polarized in its profile—slayer is more balanced than colo tho

harsh imp
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hello slayer good or Thane better ?

blissful delta
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yes

sinful mantle
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Press buttons very fast and win dps

hollow stream
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kek

swift hull
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hello warrior i have question now the priority is Raging blow --> bloodbath ---> execute ou Execute--> bloodbath with up to raging blow

warm crag
swift hull
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I prefer to ask people who play the class; Wowhead isn't always fair.

blissful delta
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LOL

warm crag
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i play the class and i am telling you wowhead is fair

blissful delta
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yeah but whoever writes the guides probably doenst play warrior

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🙂

warm crag
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not like he hides his character

slender badger
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In all fairness it might aswell be AI soon 🙂

swift hull
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I just wanted to know if the priority order had changed with the Raging Blow and Execution buffs.

junior crag
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what u guys think pick a 20 crest save or a bonus roll ?