fury

[sudden tusk]

you arent getting HoF

[slim coral]

lura isnt that much easier with gear imo due to one shots

[warm crag]

tell them to get good

[vague stump]

haha I have

[sudden tusk]

if your tanks arent good you will never parse paladins

im chillin on lura

[warm crag]

if you're playing an ST fight just play slarms or thane then

[sudden tusk]

legit bored

[indigo arch]

kinda looking forward to slayer fury tomorrow, I like speen

clap is ok, but speen

neuron activation

[undone flower]

Im depressing on beloren

[slim coral]

I wish slury got buffed when I was progging mythic lura and not after

[indigo arch]

I wish they'd just buff slayer past thane in m+ too

I wanna speen

in all content

[vague stump]

its not even the parse dude. I was saying if you're a fury player and your new to arms just switching for paladins and arent in a good guild like me your more than likely better off playing fury

[indigo arch]

I miss s3

[vague stump]

its hard when you cant use sweep stacks because of boss movement ect ect

thats the point I was making

w overlaps and all that shit

[warm crag]

not really even then you just adjust to use sweep earlier at like x seconds remaining before wb

[undone flower]

If it becomes slightly spread 2-3t -> thane

[warm crag]

im willing to claim that most tanks in bad guilds are still capable of stacking bosses

[vague stump]

yeah bro our stack time was literally 10 seconds or whatever before aura casts

masssive issue

[undone flower]

My mid guild I had to show them on my pov

[vague stump]

when elephant goes and then try to get it back in

I am just 1 t until the aura guy comes back

oh and on tornados not moving them together. alot of guilds not progging paladins really arent good

lol

[undone flower]

That’s a range bait issue imo

[vague stump]

probs tbh

like you know on 1st shield cast

like the 1st one I only had 2t

[undone flower]

She does the diagonal charge usually yes

[vague stump]

because the other one was near the end of the plaform lol

where I think there should be 3 always on that phase no?

[rare forum]

thats pretty standard

[vague stump]

did everyone else that done the figght always try and stay in the middle or you walking around the edge?

[undone flower]

you mean the first healer soaks ?

[vague stump]

no when avengers shield casts on the whole raid

before healer soaks

[rare forum]

oh that, yea that should be 3t xd

[vague stump]

yeah )

[rare forum]

thought you meant first shield on the girl, the charge

[vague stump]

na but thats where alot of the issues come from she charges out

and then the tank struggles to get her back in to the other boss

idk why bro maybe because he is playing prot paladin or smth

but like elephant goes off does her shit then trying to group again before shield cast I only ever get 2t there

bellamy and vennel or whatever its called

[undone flower]

literally 1min13 ? the first ones

[vague stump]

no so I think it was after this one this one I remember being fine

everything after when senn charges out is an issue

where I am only hitting 1 or max 2 until they come together again before the ulti cast but very briefly. its deffo a tank issue that I have bought up but I think alot of players in guilds progging now will be having similar issue

where you get not alot of uptime on 3t and not even alot of uptime on 2

[undone flower]

if you split the bosses during healer soaks i can imagine the lack of 2t

[vague stump]

yea they try to split so 1 in each melee group lol but tbh I am gonna say just keep them together on soaks

and put both dks in the other w the ret

and put me and ww in the cloest one w 2t cleve

[dire escarp]

Hello there, sorry for disturb.
Is there a way where i can see sims or which spec /hero tree might be better for m+ etc?

[earnest canyon]

wowhead

[dire escarp]

Even between specs?

[earnest canyon]

no, but you can just sim them yourself

[tardy lark]

can just look at players on raider.io for keys and warcraftlogs for raids

gives you actual data rather than hypotheticals

[prime pulsar]

What do you think after Fury Buff, fury better than Arms?

[woven valley]

Doubtful, I assume fury will need another buff to be better but we will see today

[south lintel]

Fury is gonna pump

💪

[merry lotus]

2 sticks better than 1

[analog dagger]

as a prot warrior transitioning to fury - if i got a 285 shield and 1H will i have a free upgrade to 285 when i get a myth track 2H?

[remote haven]

Ye Zero uptime getting them out permanently is very Bad for Arms we did kill it the Same way cause dmg is enough was very sad that day

[strong monolith]

Hey guys is thane getting nerfed

[burnt oxide]

[junior oyster]

yes, by like 15%

[dim kite]

Are any talents changing with the new buffs for fury slayer? Or just keep sending as is?

[burnt oxide]

We keep as is for now

Might change tho, time will tell

[dim kite]

Thank you. I hadn’t seen any changes but wanted to verify. I can’t keep up as closely as I’d like lol

[red berry]

buff ground current like its demon hunter dash and we're in shadowlands

[grand vale]

Yes

up to 5/6

[slate light]

any chance slayer fury is usable on paladins in the new reset?

[sly pasture]

certainly more usable

[dense elbow]

Cant you taunt SR a tank Buster? Surely you will be useful

[uneven path]

Spec secretly prot and help tanks with aggro

[burnt oxide]

Even when the normal melee oneshots you after, you will be usefull

[modern ingot]

Anyone tested slayer with rampaging ruin or is it still 💩

[next mica]

do log rankings work differntly on beloren like is there smth that doesnt count?

[tardy lark]

there isnt a banner like this above the damage on beloren, so nothing is filtered or normalized in any way

[frozen scarab]

patch 12.0.7 is the fury buffs right

[burnt oxide]

No, next reset(today in na)

[frozen scarab]

o

[random shadow]

slayer got pretty big buffs today

[frozen scarab]

what da numbers say

[burnt oxide]

#updates-midnight

[fading sky]

10%

[scarlet swift]

I have a dumb guy question about the 10%

Is that truly 10%, or is it technically less, because part of the dmg increase is in raging blow, and raging blow gets hit like 10 times in a 5 minute fight so its pretty negligible

[bitter palm]

its truly 10%

[blazing anvil]

its effective 6-8%

[bitter palm]

well on sims its 10% cause the bug was never in simc

[upbeat plume]

We are probably closer to 8% cause arms benefited more from the deed wounds bug

[oak pecan]

is raidbots updated with the fury buffs yet

[radiant plank]

no

[opaque mortar]

Really want to see ST slayer numbers for fury v arms.

[fading sky]

Slayer fury should win

In sims

And on prog

[winter shoal]

Last I saw was like 113 vs 111k

[opaque mortar]

With the buffs/changes?

[winter shoal]

In bis gear without turbo boost

Yes

[opaque mortar]

Sick

Swapped to arms for mythic+ two weeks ago, but guild looking to start mythic prog. Plus thane looking pretty good in m+ still. Might swap back. Let the vault gods decide I guess

[stoic star]

Brothers today is ours.
We’ve been through the fire, we’ve carried the weight, and we’re still standing. That alone means something. But today? Today we don’t just stand, we DOMINATE the meters.

[radiant plank]

no

[burnt oxide]

No, we doom

We must

It is our duty

Our heritage

[drifting token]

All that to be middle of the road lol

[burnt oxide]

Middle of the road is good

[drifting token]

Oh i agree i love middle of the road

[stoic star]

~ Fury ~
All damage increased by 5%.
Execute damage increased by 20%.
Raging Blow damage increased by 20%.
Slayer: Slayer’s Strike damage increased by 40%.
Slayer: Reap the Storm damage increased by 30%.
Mountain Thane: Ground Current damage increased by 50%.

[compact siren]

Don’t worry we will catch another nerf in 2 weeks

[stoic star]

HUGE STONKS for M+

[compact siren]

But arms is still likely better in M+

[burnt oxide]

It is stonks for every content

[compact siren]

wcyd

[stoic star]

Who gives a fuck about ST in raid. Hardly any raid bosses are ST this season.

Play Arms on those bosses.

[drifting token]

Boss dam becomes more relevant deeper inot the season

[burnt oxide]

More gear=less pad=st more good

[stoic star]

Bro im full BiS just in 2 weeks of voidcores.

I got Myth Gaze + Myth Heart back to back voidcore uses. Not to mention the FREE refund i got and used on a Myth 2H. Life is good.

[burnt oxide]

The refunds were something else man

[frozen scarab]

swear only bis i have is fucking heart excluding tier sets bro

[strange vortex]

I hope you step on a lego good sir

[frozen scarab]

• crafted weapon

[magic prairie]

this is huge

[echo scarab]

bonus rolls hit diffy, I rolled voidclaw gauntlets and then rolled Voidcleaver back to back dungeons

[strange vortex]

does the buff put slayer over thane in the raid? I just hate bladestorm. Spinning in front of 1 mob

[echo scarab]

probably not enough to make me want to play slayer

[hardy cargo]

I used my voidcores ~1 hour after the cutoff for refunds

[warm crag]

L bozo

[bitter palm]

L

[warm crag]

means the knockout system worked for you so statistically you lost nothing

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[honest tundra]

do we have any sim numbers from the updates

i guess just take existing number and add the mentioned %

[dense elbow]

Pop enraged Regen

[burnt oxide]

Buuuuuuut is is a dps looooss

[digital mauve]

So how are the buff

Or are we all EU?

[smoky nacelle]

not up yet

[digital mauve]

??

How

[smoky nacelle]

wdym? servers are not up yet, so we have no idea how the changes are rn

[magic prairie]

^

[smoky nacelle]

offically extended another hour

[scarlet swift]

warrior buffs were too much for the system

[smoky nacelle]

blizz made a mistake and are now reverting all warrior changes

[smoky nacelle]

imagine..

[magic prairie]

its extended

[bitter palm]

classic

[scarlet swift]

im not extended

[bitter palm]

every week same shit

na beta testers

[scarlet swift]

I'm gonna need that $0.15 refund for this hour

[pliant obsidian]

i plan for 8 hr maintenance downtime every tues now so 2 hours no biggie lol

[digital mauve]

You guys think we can get another buff soon after reset?

[smoky nacelle]

are you drunk?

[pliant obsidian]

of course its called better gear and each tues you got a chance to buff your toon

[dense elbow]

Nope

[scarlet swift]

You get better gear?

[dense elbow]

Speaking as someone who was topping meters already, as Slayer. All i can say is, we prob gonna get nerfed

[pliant obsidian]

i hope so i am only 270 item level on this toon

[dense elbow]

Rogue main?

[twilit narwhal]

Have the talent builds been affected in any way or something weird happened with last tuning?

[sullen tendon]

2 buffs is enough for blizzard usually. Even if we perform low still they probably won’t change it anymore until .7 or 1.0

[pliant obsidian]

dk tank main never main warrior until s2 or s3

[sullen tendon]

They feel bothered if they have to keep buffing things and want to save face for not paying attention to balancing so they just hold off on doing anything for months

[dense elbow]

RB path is a tad less worse for Slayer, kinda it

Prot lads seeing if they will swap some Thane talents, but unlikely

[scarlet swift]

honestly i think they arent touching warriors because they are consistently pushing high keys

[pliant obsidian]

are they or just the top like 5 percent/

[bitter palm]

they are

[pliant obsidian]

nice

for raids prot warrior seems to be good so far

[twilit narwhal]

I mean, the choice of prot warrior comes down to needing the buff and DPS warrior being really bad

[spring lantern]

its pretty rare blizz tune around high end keys

[twilit narwhal]

at least for hof level

[spring lantern]

idk if they still follow it but they have said in the past they dont

[scarlet swift]

Why else would ST be so blatently ignored?

[dense elbow]

Anyone benching their dps warr this late into the tier, needs to disband their raid team

[spring lantern]

because its blizzard lmao

[pliant obsidian]

after shadowlands experience i will never again main a dps warrior for s1 of an xpac you guys have ballz but the class is soo gear dependant the class struggles until s2 s3

[spring lantern]

there are specs basically every season that are this far behind in ST

[pliant obsidian]

yep

[scarlet swift]

If arms was as good as frost mage and fury was (it is) like arcane, that would be a better balance

[fiery edge]

that's utopia you're saying

[pliant obsidian]

we use 2 2handers we should always imo close to top melee dps

[scarlet swift]

I'd prefer fury was better, but right now its as good as arcane, our other dps should be as pumper as other off-dps specs

[past hazel]

Is Raid gonna be a Slayer angle or are we still MT majority

[scarlet swift]

i like MT simply because CDs are aligned better

[fiery edge]

so tired of thane

[south kayak]

Yeah, MT has better CD alignment which means your AoE burst is always at its peak when you need it

[south kayak]

Then don't play it

[scarlet swift]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-stomping-loonalslayz-never-lost-its-value-gif-25450074

[pliant obsidian]

agreed and why not have bladestorm's cd affected by anger management in slayer spec like they used to?

[fiery edge]

aight dood

[scarlet swift]

even if fury was 5% better, i'd still do thane because im not dealing with that desync

[south kayak]

That wasn't in the slayer spec, it was on Anger Management

[pliant obsidian]

ok

now its just avatar

[south kayak]

I'm serious, the difference isn't going to be that big come reset

[scarlet swift]

Ok serious question guys

2nd coffee, or 1st Monster Energy for the day

[dense elbow]

Neither

Water

[pliant obsidian]

2nd coffee wifes almost home with my scooters lol

[scarlet swift]

Coffee it is, its made of water

[dense elbow]

I wont disagree, if you accept to walk that line down all the way, so everything we consume is basically water

[subtle lagoon]

Coffee is effin gross

[fiery edge]

vietnamese coffee

[scarlet swift]

You made the right choice

[scarlet swift]

https://tenor.com/view/water-boy-ben-steller-swim-water-is-the-essence-of-wetness-gif-14759568

[quasi fractal]

Irish coffee

[frozen scarab]

i will miss avatar now that i’m switching to slayer tbh…

i’m only supposed to bladestorm with reckless active right

[stoic star]

Fury Warrior ST: 10% AOE: 6% WE MADE IT OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE METERS

[fresh mango]

no

[night marlin]

[stoic star]

yes actually.

[olive wraith]

Avatar hardly even exists

It’s just a macro with rek

[stoic star]

^

Imagine interacting with Avatar seperate from recklessness.

[ocean ore]

Has slury prio changed at all with today's or last tuning ?

[smoky nacelle]

Avatar is for boomers

[frozen scarab]

i just like looking massive

[scarlet swift]

Im pretty sure the avg age of a warrior is almost boomer level

DH is 14-17 avg age

[olive wraith]

What age is boomer

[mossy pelican]

Slury is crazy

[olive wraith]

What’s crazy about it?

[frozen scarab]

i’m 20 man 😭

[smoky nacelle]

I kid..avatar actually there for the Gen X'ers who played warcraft 2

So 40plus

[scarlet swift]

WC2?

WC3, custom games, tower defense and angel arena

[stoic star]

servers aint up yet becauses blizzard cant cope with me carrying everyone in keys

[scarlet swift]

good times

[frozen scarab]

how caster heavy is evoker

[wise cave]

Yes

[frozen scarab]

man…

[olive wraith]

They have 30 apm

30-40~ idk for sure

[frozen scarab]

i want to play a ranged class and hunter is so snoozer

[sullen dove]

Is there extended maintenance or why have I not seen a vault yet

[wise cave]

The closest thing you can get to fury as a caster is ele shaman.

[olive wraith]

I believe they want to be channeling laser breath as much as possible

[untold quail]

ye back an hour

[frozen scarab]

my guild has like 20 ele shamans

[wise cave]

Make them reroll

You're a warrior main, your word is law

[frozen scarab]

lowkey should they’re all buns

[olive wraith]

Is fire mage still high apm caster

[frozen scarab]

isn’t fire mage omega dogshit

[olive wraith]

No clue

[wise cave]

Not the most dogshit

[frozen scarab]

haven’t seen a single one

this tier

[wise cave]

Frost is the easy spec with high cleave which this tier rewards the fuck out of so there's no reason to play fire

[scarlet swift]

dumb question, why are these guys diff colors?

mouse isnt hovering on them

[frozen scarab]

didn’t someone here have a list of classes apms

[olive wraith]

Warcraft logs usually has data on that

[wise cave]

Realms aren't up but they're populating

[olive wraith]

But it doesn’t include all classes

[frozen scarab]

what’s warlock apm if you could estimate

[olive wraith]

That idk

[frozen scarab]

pain

[scarlet swift]

4

4 dots per min

4 apm

[olive wraith]

Demo has a mix of instant casts and hard casts I think

So maybe above 50?

[frozen scarab]

hunter might be the only option it seems

[wise cave]

Did your mom take a lot of tylenol while pregnant? You could try dev dh.

[coarse nest]

Lmfao

[frozen scarab]

playing dev dh rn just feels

[olive wraith]

Udk

[strong monolith]

yo are we getting DN today?

[wise cave]

We up.

[coarse nest]

You can get DN anytime you want

[spring lantern]

there is a list on simulation craft

[smoky nacelle]

Open vaults

[frozen scarab]

feel like if i switched to dev dh i’d just be called a fotm

[spring lantern]

but we arent on there cos we dont have a profile that is public

[scarlet swift]

Mythic Averzian, CPM on critcakes guild

[spring lantern]

locks are 51-57 mostly

[frozen scarab]

that’s decently high no?

[scarlet swift]

Surv seems low if you got actual issues

[wise cave]

When did ret get high cpm?

[olive wraith]

Ret can’t be that high

[scarlet swift]

i dont make the numbers

[olive wraith]

Gotta be something counting as casts that isn’t actually casted

[spring lantern]

itll count crusading strikes probably

[coarse nest]

Demo is a chill spec and it’s fotm right now

Low apm like you want

[olive wraith]

76 as fury might be a touch high too tbh

[modest condor]

fury isnt that high either

[modest condor]

it's counting rampage 3 or 4 times

[frozen scarab]

evoker might just be the play

rather that than hunter

[olive wraith]

Ew Aug

Gross

[spring lantern]

dev evoker is the true low apm

spend loads of time disintegrating

[strong monolith]

hurry up and post vvault

[frozen scarab]

jesus man

[scarlet swift]

Mythic Chim, "just boss"

[pearl trout]

Thane still the move going forward after today or were the slayer buffs enough to swap?

[floral frigate]

I won lol

[scarlet swift]

with Adds

[olive wraith]

#updates-midnight

[fiery edge]

let's go slury

[fickle vector]

What boss is this

[fickle vector]

And is critcake playing thane here?

[scarlet swift]

Myth Averzian

i dunno, i closed the window

[strong monolith]

guys is thane getting nerfed

[coarse nest]

Last item left before I can’t get any more upgrades without switching multiple pieces at once

[coarse nest]

Oh Gz btw!

[worthy yarrow]

garf_sit

[random shadow]

hm

[coarse nest]

Custom emoji user!

[olive wraith]

Huh

[drowsy heron]

EW Puzzlebox

[scarlet swift]

I know this is warrior chat, but wtf is this, i havent seen this in the game yet

[worthy yarrow]

ill just take gloves at this point

[scarlet swift]

Me too

give me seat gloves, cmon game, its been weeks

literally never seen them, not even champ version

[drowsy heron]

Still no Myth Gaze

[worthy yarrow]

well see u guys in dreamrift

[serene cloud]

I've probably missed it somewhere, but with the stones eventually guaranteeing 2 mythic weapons, is it better to get a second myth-track weapon and get another crafted piece with Arcanoweave lining?

[random shadow]

back to pit i go for helm

[random shadow]

sim it

[serene cloud]

Fair - ty

[candid falcon]

</3 is mark of light any good

[magic prairie]

what talents are yall using for M+ Slayer? can I have a look?

yall gatting rampaging ruin?

[candid falcon]

im not but it can be good on big pulls

this is lowkey just the wowhead build

[serene cloud]

Mark rates pretty low on our list - if you don't want anything else it's at least a myth-track trinket shrug

[magic prairie]

so no one is picking up RR

[candid falcon]

i'm personally not playing RR

[frozen scarab]

has anyone gotten bellamy's final judgement in thier vaults yet

[magic prairie]

i do

[olive wraith]

You lose prio damage. So unless your group is in desperate need for a little more aoe I wouldn’t pick it up

[magic prairie]

fair

[frozen scarab]

mustve been a nice feeling...

[surreal wedge]

this is an awful outcome, because yes I could get a second mythic weapon now, but also this is gonna be an M+ exclusive toon and I will never kill M voracious.

[magic prairie]

nah when I simmed, it doesnt add much.

Would still choose the weapon from Maisara imo

[surreal wedge]

what do

[fleet yarrow]

how big of an upgrade

are these to just other mythic gloves?

[worthy yarrow]

XD?

[midnight temple]

Is improved whirlwind bugged on slayer?

Thunderclap isn’t procing it

[frozen scarab]

interesting

[bitter palm]

slayer doesnt play thunder clap

[candid falcon]

thunderclap slayer...

[unkempt oasis]

Thlayer

[bitter palm]

thane has a talent that makes tc inherit all ww effects

[spare steppe]

Why does my vault have all feet

I’d like to file a complaint

[uneven path]

Cuz you surely like feet

[bitter palm]

mmm feet :3

[drifting token]

some people pay extra for that

[old flame]

whats better slayer or mountain thane now?

single target

[bitter palm]

slayer

[unkempt oasis]

Thlayer

[bitter palm]

but they are close

[drifting token]

slayer was already better single target before this buff

[stoic loom]

Mythic vorasius is VERY easily puggable, and gets easier every week

[smoky nacelle]

4% buff baby

[spark coral]

gross vault

[smoky nacelle]

All raids

[lilac osprey]

Definitely a socket angle

[surreal wedge]

maybe, but vs just rolling a mythic weapon(and one with better stats)

[past pivot]

Or a voidform

[serene cloud]

At least with my current gear, getting a 2nd myth-track weapon and another arcanoweave lining item seems to be a ~500-1000 dps gain. Back to the Pit I go

[lilac osprey]

I keep forgetting that's an option

[austere notch]

newer to warrior in general. I know I used to hear fury warriors say that they set their loot spec to arms to better ensure weapons from m+ and vault? is that still a thing or was my friend a dingus back in the day?

[unkempt oasis]

It is not

[stable frost]

Neither of those. Used to be needed, no longer is

[surreal wedge]

there isn't really a difference now is there?

between arms and fury

[unkempt oasis]

Used to go arms to remove 1h

[bitter palm]

W

[sharp patio]

@austere notch Its only used on the raid boss chimaerus if u want to target the trinket , then u swap to protection spec

[serene cloud]

Fury used to have Single-Minded Fury, which kept strength-onehanders as a DPS option and not a tank drop. However, it was never really worth going for it

[magic prairie]

I tried the m+ slayer on dummies... feels like the same...

Also the ST talent...

[fiery edge]

guess we're cooked

[graceful rapids]

anyone know if Simc Should how the latest buffs? It doesnt seem like its reflecting it.

[broken bramble]

I'm simming the same today as I was before the reset

[graceful rapids]

ya, ok im not crazy.

[surreal wedge]

So. Heroic trink vs mythic weapon, seems like it's so close that since I can just reroll a mythic weapon from somewhere it'll be better to just grab the trink no?

[frozen scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336842672375074908/1352184849775067196/togif.gif

[surreal wedge]

also again not sure when this character will be able to do m voracious if ever

[uneven path]

DPS wise ? Or play style wise ?

[magic prairie]

Dps

[fleet yarrow]

at that level of dps diff

[uneven path]

Weird

[fleet yarrow]

its simply which is harder to get

[frozen scarab]

placebo buffs this entire time.

[dapper elbow]

is 2 mythic weapon better, then 1 craft and 1 mythic weapon?

[surreal wedge]

prolly trink then yeah? 2 rolls per chance and rolling against a raid group vs going for vault or 2 chances per week

[spare flame]

anyone cooked a slayer build to share? ima try to spice things up

[kind bison]

prob glove angle right? i have M track gaze and H track voracious

did our slayer or thane talents change at all?

[strong monolith]

guys are they nerfing thane today

[surreal wedge]

it'd be a buff

[strong monolith]

[magic prairie]

Still waiting

[oblique thistle]

Can just do wowhead for now

[lavish sierra]

did the buffs actually go in

[waxen vigil]

is it normal for thane to sim higher in ST

[spare flame]

higher than prot? yes

[waxen vigil]

?

[spare flame]

[waxen vigil]

higher than slayer

[spiral ridge]

pretty sure they didn't I have the same tooltip numbers as last night

[waxen vigil]

by like .5%

[marble apex]

Hows going mt furry guys? It feels good?

[lavish sierra]

yeah I do too

[spare flame]

tf u just called us

[magic prairie]

Right?? I wasnt feeling it too either

[past pivot]

furry like druids?

[surreal wedge]

OK, so the way I see it, idk if I will ever pug mythic raid on this guy, I got a heroic heart in my vault and a mythic weapon, I think I take the trinket, never think about the raid again, and just bonus roll another weapon

[uneven path]

thx for testing US 🫡

[vestal root]

US our beta servers

[magic prairie]

Was too excited to get invites on pugs

[vestal root]

dont get ahead of yourself

[olive wraith]

Have you seen a blue post

[vestal root]

10% on noodle damage is still noodle damage

[magic prairie]

And now this?!?!...

Maybe theyll roll it out once EU is dine? Idk

[surreal wedge]

does this logic track for anyone else?

[uneven path]

well now its stiff noodle

[vestal root]

my noodle is stiff

[floral frigate]

hmm my ground current tooltip is like the same

[surreal wedge]

they sim within 30 dps of eachother

[uneven path]

[strong monolith]

I'll ask again tomrrow nbd

[olive wraith]

It’s nerfed

[strong monolith]

nah nah I gotta ask every day

[gilded dune]

slayer in first key felt about as good as thane pre buff, might even do a lil better in big aoe with BS, but not sure

[ionic lance]

I tried slayer just now. it hits like a wet noodle

[fallen plaza]

Did buffs actually go through? Not seeing my numbers any different than yesterday.

[uneven path]

Duality of warrior players

[ionic lance]

unless we are top dpsing its always gonna exist lol

[olive wraith]

Slayer burst is still better thane wins on sustain

[kind bison]

wonder if there's fights where we go back fury or if we still just play arms for most of the raid

seemed like last 4 ppl were playing all arms for the most part

[scarlet swift]

but if i play arms, do i use my myth wep or my crafted wep KEKW

[white portal]

man, the buffs still feel lackluster

[inland spruce]

0.5% upgrade on mythic boots from vault? or.... just get the token for an extra re-roll?

[white portal]

feels like warrior needs even more juice

slayer specifically needs more ST

[fiery edge]

slury is....

back to slarms

[wheat lantern]

3450 io / 110 ques for a 10 nexus and still counting to get a inv. love warrior life

[olive wraith]

How many requests did they get

[unreal onyx]

after this weeks buffs, do we still play arms on alleria or is fury basically equal now?

[wheat lantern]

just thinking the odds of me queing for 110 different times , i would of got one by now LOL

[lavish sierra]

maybe the tooltips just arent updated

[ionic lance]

idk if fury will ever beat arms in raids

[white portal]

you delete your warrior because blizz hates warriors

[bronze wadi]

What tallent build we running for M+ and raid now?

[olive wraith]

Wowhead ones

[hybrid cargo]

liteally nothing has changed build wise

[inland spruce]

true feels right here... they hate us bc we were so good in vanilla

feel like we need to double-down as a community and get a warrior shout bloodlust or something implemented. naturally makes sense

[hybrid cargo]

play the way you were playing and hope the output is better

[olive wraith]

So tired of the bloodlust wishlist

[wise cave]

I've been saying it this entire expansion, warrior needs a battle rez. Shout them back to life out of fear of disappointing you.

[olive wraith]

We have brez

[inland spruce]

soul link? lol okay

[ionic lance]

just buy cables dafuq

[wise cave]

I'm not wasting my dps on repositioning and channeling them

[olive wraith]

Damn

Then you don’t want utility

Gg

[hybrid cargo]

mans would rather wipe

[unkempt oasis]

We need mage table

Tired of all these mages making food

[drowsy heron]

wait have we confirmed if the buffs went in?

[magic prairie]

Idk

[hybrid cargo]

why would you believe otherwise?

[ionic lance]

10% of 0 is still 0

[frozen scarab]

its actually insane some people truly believe composition matters for 10 keys

[burnt oxide]

Wrong math

[frozen scarab]

could time a 12 faster than them on a 10 without lust

[burnt oxide]

110% of 0 is still 0

[wheat lantern]

this is diabolical , I already know ill blow them outta the water on dmg regardless

[zinc python]

is thane still stronger in raid over slayer?

i should say, in voidspire

[drifting token]

usually boss dependent

[dim spindle]

Have the sims been updated?

Wouldn't be surprised if they're still being worked on, they don't just automatically update with reset/hotfixes. afaik.

[surreal token]

you can try nightly version

that may be up to date

[surreal wedge]

My sims are basically the same, my ST(with slight cleave because blizzard loves to put two fucking raiding dummies in aoe range no it's fine I'm not mad) went up about 3-5k?

[surreal token]

use the one in dornogal

[surreal wedge]

and I was sitting at around 47k so that tracks

[surreal wedge]

I mean I pretested on those dummies because I was short on time anyway

[onyx belfry]

What do we think is after buff better in m+ fury slayer or thane ?

[spare flame]

did they buffs go throught? lol, i guess raging blow still blows

[surreal wedge]

RB was always prolly gonna blow I think

[dim spindle]

RB needs more than 20% to be Great Again

Refer to earlier comments... 20% of 0 is...

But it's still a boost either way since we have to mash RB now and then even if we hate it

[magic prairie]

Still waiting for update

[surreal wedge]

but yeah, so looks like the buffs did go through, but generally 10% of what most people were doing which woulda been like what 80-100k isn't gonna make warrior meter toppers.

[onyx belfry]

What do we think is after buff better in m+ fury slayer or thane ?

[surreal wedge]

and the buff was less in AoE but they were already better in M+ than raid anyway

[dim spindle]

Still thane

[onyx belfry]

thanks for that info

[dim spindle]

For overall, slayer for ST

[olive wraith]

#updates-midnight

[oblique thistle]

We dont need to be at the top just not at the bottom

[lyric monolith]

the plungegrip on pit of saron can only free urself w/ interrupt? new to warr

[fast sigil]

So Mountain Thane will still be better than Slayer in raids?

[sullen dove]

no

well maybe for pad but like only if actually 0 ppl in your group does aoe

slayer bladestorm getting through its damage much faster usually better for some of the fast dying add bosses

[onyx belfry]

sry dumb question but never played slayer do i need to press rend ?

[sullen dove]

no its on whirlwind now

[onyx belfry]

ty

[olive wraith]

In full st sure

[onyx belfry]

aight

[sullen dove]

there is no content in this game u dont have iww talented rn

[misty edge]

F that

[spiral ridge]

so is it confirmed tuning hasn't gone through yet?

[olive wraith]

Who is saying it hasn’t lol

[spiral ridge]

my stats says so lol

[sullen dove]

your stats?

[spiral ridge]

or am I crazy?

[sullen dove]

or you mean sim or something

[spiral ridge]

I have the same numbers as last night

on tooltips

[sullen dove]

are on na presumably right

[dim spindle]

Tooltips are not to be trusted. They're very difficult to keep updated, dontcha know

[spiral ridge]

ye

[olive wraith]

You didn’t receive the buff

[random shadow]

why not just do key and see

[olive wraith]

Unlucky

[sullen dove]

i didnt think to check before an after but yea idk would assume they are just like.. truthfully done not sure if tooltips are always end all be all signifying if buffs went through

[spiral ridge]

I mean I did do some testing, not hitting harder lol

[random shadow]

hitting dummies isnt same

[magic prairie]

Same feeling

[hybrid cargo]

slayer actually felt like garbage.... but it was a 10 i did for a bonus roll

[olive wraith]

I mean this isn’t reliable either

[dim spindle]

New feature - When hotfixes are live, each toon has a 20% chance to receive the changes each reset. No bad luck protection.

[random shadow]

then its doomed idk what to tell you

[hushed coyote]

so for m+ is fury slayer or mount?

[olive wraith]

Usually you want to mount up

To move faster

[spiral ridge]

yeah I only happened to notice cause I was doing keys like 7 hours ago

took a look at em before getting some sleep

[oblique thistle]

Thane for overall slayer for ST

[dim spindle]

You have the same buffs rolling as when you checked last night?

[fast sigil]

Was there a delay with the improvements?

[dim spindle]

Hard saying not knowing, we'll see a note (or not) within a few weeks if they messed it up. Don't worry

By 12.1 at the latest

[spare flame]

i'll be honest, i dont feel the buffs lol

dont notice them at all

[sonic badge]

when simming, is dungeon slice ok or use 5 patchwerk for how long or ... ?

[verbal sluice]

i feel the same no real dif

[spiral ridge]

[dim spindle]

dungeon slice is not recommended

5 patch for 2 minutes is decent

Try it with 1 minute, 2, 5, go wild

Heck, go crazy. Throw in an 8 target

[sonic badge]

DOPE

thank you

[astral path]

is slayer damage bugged?

it feels so much lower than last week

[wheat lantern]

we all know how this 50/50 outcome went down .... , classic RNG

[loud patrol]

Anyone get the 298 upgrade yet

[wheat lantern]

think its next week , no ?

[past pivot]

next week

[blissful grove]

next week yeah

[loud patrol]

Lame thought it was this week for some reason

[surreal wedge]

you know I've never paid attention to the menu, is that what it looks like when you go to roll?

[fallen hazel]

thane or slayer keys?

[drowsy heron]

think its whatever you enjoy now

[verbal sluice]

thane more cosistent

[fallen hazel]

just asking for anyone who has tried the buffs

[sly bobcat]

Prot warr as dps

[worn rain]

new meta question arrived boys

[wheat lantern]

when you hover over it yeah

[quiet geyser]

Did we get the buffs yet? Read some chatter above some people think no?

[fallen hazel]

for NA

[surreal wedge]

huh neat, I've always just sent it and kept track myself lol

[opal trellis]

do we just sim dungeon slice for m+?

[surreal wedge]

So I got a question, I rolled magisters for a weapon 4 times last week and got it last roll, I have boots(good stats), chest(catalyze), and the ring left on the loot table, do I just full send magisters then go again for another weapon after it resets?

[fair void]

which buff you guys are tracking as fury in m+ ? 🤔

[past pivot]

scroll up a little

[surreal wedge]

buffs? only improved whirlwind tbh

[polar narwhal]

sudden death alert

for slayer

[burnt oxide]

Reck and avatar as thane
Reck for rotation planing at the end of the buff
Avatar for extension

[sharp valve]

So slayer fury bangs???

[burnt oxide]

And both fury spec need sudden death

[polar narwhal]

no

for thane its lower prio

[burnt oxide]

Does not natter

Still need to see it if you can use it above bt or rb

[polar narwhal]

so for thane i do not have an alert for it

[burnt oxide]

Maybe not alert, but at least show

[sharp valve]

Huh?

[burnt oxide]

They are so hot, someone dropped them

[polar narwhal]

Claude dislikes Warrior too

[fast sigil]

They gave us false hope haha

[burnt oxide]

But this is good for fury

[fast sigil]

🙁

[burnt oxide]

Still 100% more on deep wounds

Than intended

[stoic loom]

The intern forgot

[burnt oxide]

[polar narwhal]

its more the sound for me, i can see execute glow up when it has free cast so

[dim spindle]

Tracking enrage is pretty helpful, too

[compact knot]

is this even true

[burnt oxide]

Not sure !

[stoic loom]

That was already fixed last week wasnt it

[past pivot]

Maybe warrior buffs are a 4-week chain like the upgrade one

[burnt oxide]

Lemme bait

[compact knot]

yeah that got hotfixed nerfed mid week

[surreal wedge]

I suppose, it's one of those things where I find it's like, always up lol.

and if it isn't bloodthirst is next button to press anyway

[smoky nacelle]

blizz hates us

[broken bramble]

Clearly

[dim spindle]

Surely Warrior isn't the only class to be neglected

[livid arch]

lol how tf do you forget to implement skill changes for a whole class

[merry lotus]

They are rage baiting us

[oblique thistle]

Honestly you couldn't write a more perfect script

[sharp valve]

Indeed

[oblique thistle]

Warriors stay losing

[spark coral]

shutter the discord! demand 10% buffs for the delay!

[dim spindle]

How demoralizing

[smoky nacelle]

we'll get 298 and new player power before our class buffs

[dim spindle]

Maybe it's because they decided last minute to tack another 5% to the aura buff. Surely?

[past pivot]

If only they had extended maintainance to implement the changes ...

[strong monolith]

Did they forget everyone else too or just warrior?

[compact knot]

my dh didnt really feel weaker

[past pivot]

5% more of 0 is still 0

[lofty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/embarrassed-sad-cry-interview-gif-4477593

[compact knot]

but idk it wasnt a big nerf

[dim spindle]

Hey, you. Get off my cloud 🙁

Well, time to dig into my hopium stash again. It's running very low

[fast sigil]

They're playing with my feelings again.

[dim spindle]

Surely this will be fixed ASAP. 🙂

[oblique thistle]

Yeah they'll fix it pretty quick im sure

[magic prairie]

SMALL INDIE CO. BTw

[oblique thistle]

But still really funny

[trail coral]

Blizzclown

[sullen dove]

yey

[polar narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[crude crater]

So, they have chosen Kimberly-Clark. 🔥 🏭 🔥

[spare flame]

i KNEW it!

[crystal summit]

So with RB buffs, I'ma try out my auto attack buff build again. 30% auto attack DMG and speed, More RB DMG, more auto attacks that proc more slayer strikes which also got buffed and gives more sudden death proca which also got buffed

[winter shoal]

Explode

[spiral ridge]

I told ya lmao

[dim spindle]

God speed, brother in fury

Cook it up, chef

[pulsar lodge]

are the buffs not available in pvp only or in general for pve too?

[crystal summit]

You only lose out on bleed DMG from bloodthirst and some rampage DMG . Before I got insane gear from raiding it was pretty close with the meta build early on

[past pivot]

Wait till buffs go live tho

[dim spindle]

Not sarcasm btw

[unreal bone]

Nothing went live this week, blizzard is sus

[dim spindle]

Always nice to see someone trying new stuff

[lofty seal]

could be on to something with sham buff

[smoky nacelle]

warriors the forgotten class

[sharp valve]

[dim spindle]

Maybe the war dev is the same age as many of us die hards. Onset of dementia is a bitch

On the plus side dementia sufferers often don't recognize that they're declining

[spark coral]

poor war dev, he's been out sick the whole expansion

[pulsar lodge]

maybe smexx tried to push out these buffs but someone higher up denied him

[spark coral]

alzheimers

[dim spindle]

Ion's side piece plays mage

(poorly)

[sullen dove]

surely i will win both nexus rings that are the last 2 out of 3 items on the loot pool

[blissful delta]

I tried ONE slayer key on reset and it was terrible, makes sense now

[pulsar lodge]

lul

[lofty seal]

better buy that extra core now

[dim spindle]

Surely. Thoughts and prayers 4 u

[acoustic brook]

Brothers

[spare flame]

i got magister weapon on literally my second to last roll

[dim spindle]

Did you just assume my familial relation?

MODS

[acoustic brook]

Distant cousins

Guy i met at my first work place and smoked a joint with once

Rise up

[dim spindle]

That works

[acoustic brook]

We are getting buffed

[dim spindle]

Go on

[dim spindle]

Are we?

That remains to be seen 🙁

[lofty seal]

archimtiros says so

[acoustic brook]

BROTHERS

[vague stump]

so bliz just decides not do put in any of the changes??

[lilac osprey]

Seems they just got applied

[vague stump]

or we getting hotfix?

[marble pilot]

6%ish for thane in ST and AOE and like 10% for Slayer right?

[jolly ridge]

are we getting nurfed tomorrow/

[dim spindle]

Oh yay

[calm swallow]

Probably

[vague stump]

indirectly probs

[olive wraith]

Just you

[wheat lantern]

yeah my ground current tooltip changed , there in now

[kind bison]

tf is happening lmao

[dim spindle]

Now I can put my hopium stash away and log in without being too sad. Eventually

[charred estuary]

There really isn't a warrior dev

The dk dev forgot to push out our buffs

[frozen scarab]

wait what’s happening

[marble apex]

Its joke no?

😁

Blizz doing blizz things

[sharp valve]

[spiral ridge]

was it jsut warrior?

[light osprey]

So were the buffs live already or they just went live 2 mins ago lol

[dim spindle]

The ride never ends

[lilac osprey]

Just went live 2 minutes ago

[patent topaz]

latter

[jagged ledge]

What’s meant in the update channel by “effective use of ruin.”

[ornate gust]

more buffs plz .. more buffs

[dim spindle]

rampaging ruin talent

I presume

[dusky frost]

Isn't the proper use of it not to use it?

[vague stump]

the proper way to use ruin

is to not take it

[sullen dove]

wow slayers strike does 30k now

[light osprey]

Thank god. Cause I hate playing arms

[sullen dove]

]

[dim spindle]

I think "effective" means using the cancelaura tek

[vague stump]

what did it do before

[dim spindle]

ANd/or it could mean your tank pulls around the fact you're using ruin

[vague stump]

wait I can check on eu

[sullen dove]

like 23k

[light osprey]

We playing slayer or MT now

[dusky frost]

Effective means using a macro so you don't nerf yourself because the cleaved version will do less damage than the single target one, even tho you are hitting only one target

[dim spindle]

Whichever tickles your pickle more

[maiden ingot]

So it does slightly more than Arms Reap does on EU right now.

[patent topaz]

24,175

[sullen dove]

my fury gear is pretty bad too

im sittin in arms gear rn as fury

[patent topaz]

im eu i have the old values

[vernal ginkgo]

Kinda funny how a guy earlier saying he didn't feel a difference... Cause there was none and he was right lol

[sullen dove]

so like prolly 10% or more mastery less than i should have

[vague stump]

19.4k for me

on eu live

[dim spindle]

They hated him because he was right

[surreal wedge]

LOL that's so funny

[grim chasm]

I love blizzard. Just missed a key by 5 seconds lol find out I didn’t even get my extra damage for that key!

[sharp valve]

Slayer going to bang i guess

[dim spindle]

Blame the tank

Never yourself

[quiet geyser]

That math doesn't add up

[dim spindle]

Failing that, blame the other dps or even the healer

[grim chasm]

True

[dim spindle]

If really desperate - blame lag

The ol' standby

[grim chasm]

I was playing slayer and was like man this still feels awful lol

Now I know why

[vernal ginkgo]

RIP

[fast sigil]

Did they implement the improvement or is it still not working?

[subtle lagoon]

has it been implemented live?

[smoky nacelle]

6 warriors at the dummy earlier...we were all like nothings changed...

[dim spindle]

According to the Holy Word of Archi it's working now

[south kayak]

They did fix it now

[subtle lagoon]

Like without a server shutdown

[orchid bear]

Is there any haste point where we swap from Frenzied to Powerful enrage? I'm at 27% baseline so when enraged I'm 42%. Then lust and heart of wind...Concern lol

[sharp valve]

Gotta restart game probably

[supple marten]

people really dont like reading

[south kayak]

They can hotfix it in without shutting down the server

[dim spindle]

Enrage haste doesn't apply to DR

In case you were unaware

[sullen dove]

o think 23k was as arms i had like 20k as fury on ss 30 min ago

[dim spindle]

Lust doesn't either, but heart does

[dusky frost]

So, TLDR. Are we fury enjoyers now?

[sullen dove]

arms is now 35k yummy

furys still cool in keys and a bit more useable in raid since its st got buffed comparatively more than arms

[dim spindle]

😡

[sullen dove]

kinda at the point u can play whatever u want in any content cept maybe arms still clearly the winner on paladins

but like paladins shouldnt be much of a dps check anyway so up to you

[orchid bear]

I wasn't, thank you!

[uneven path]

Colo right ? Or the slarms is creeping on it ?>

[dim spindle]

np. afaik any +haste % buff doesn't get hit by DR but rating does

[sullen dove]

colo fo sho

[uneven path]

Yeh

[dusky frost]

So no more tendinitis with clapping?

[verbal sluice]

we live or no

[uneven path]

Things do so much dmg

I am shit at arms colo but I was like 3th dps ?

[runic pine]

colo in everything except AA and SR

[lavish sierra]

Idk I think it's nice now to stay fury on paladins for mindless damage

[uneven path]

I was more asking about pala, no way I play colo in M+

[runic pine]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[spiral ridge]

funny enough my tooltip still hasn't changed

[dim spindle]

Because Arms is for nerds

[runic pine]

colo is legit easier to play in M+ lol

[uneven path]

ikd, I dont like the flow of the spec and hero talent, I love slury

[dusky frost]

Only thing I like about arms is the chonky MS

[dim spindle]

If you're not seriously risking carpal tunnel with the spec you main you're not really gaming

[orchid stag]

I cant stand playing arms man. The whole you gotta play sweeping strikes and CS perfectly or you end up with no sweeping strikes to press mid pack sucks

[dim spindle]

If I wanted a safe class with 0 chance of having to apply for disability at age 35 I'd play mage or something

[runic pine]

I have a hack for you, you set up an audio alert for when SS runs out and then you just press it the next global once the sound plays

[surreal linden]

anyone else getting sims that eyes of the eagle is the best ring enchant

[runic pine]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[dim spindle]

I think we all are. It got buffed

[verbal sluice]

@surreal linden yep its what i use

[dim spindle]

It was a pretty substantial increase when I simmed/switched after the buff

[covert topaz]

does the rotation change at all with the hotfix?

[lavish sierra]

Tempted to do that with ww buff but that'd probably drive me bonkers

[orchid stag]

Just think the CD for sweeping is way too long

[surreal linden]

cool thank you

[runic pine]

I mean I did lol

[sly merlin]

is sim updated i’m simming basically the same as before buffs

[dim spindle]

Probably not

[orchid stag]

you have to play a mini game just for core aoe to function

[dim spindle]

But I'm just a lowly brown name so don't quote me on that

[sly merlin]

fairs

[dim spindle]

Someone else mentioned that using the nightly build might be worth a shot

[verbal sluice]

what do u mean mini game

[smoky nacelle]

Sarcasm

[orchid stag]

dont overlap CS and sweeping at all or you dont have sweeping to press

and they both end up on cd

[verbal sluice]

ohhh lol

[median falcon]

st, thane or slayer now?

[orchid bear]

That's why I want to run powerful enrage 😂 I need to prepot some ibuprofen or something

[sullen dove]

slayer...

[frozen scarab]

so did war properly get their buffs or still bugged

[novel rivet]

tooltips are updated for some people so they must be in

you are on the pre-buff layer (meme)

[sullen dove]

should be updated for everyone in na now

but yea

if u didnt pay extra 20 dollar fee

gg

[sullen tendon]

Are the changes for war active now or are they broken still

[novel rivet]

brother

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[smoky nacelle]

Look up

[novel rivet]

smh

[sullen tendon]

No

I just opened the app

Say yes or no

[sullen dove]

if only there were a channel for updates

[novel rivet]

maybe

[sullen dove]

cluegert

[fervent condor]

they nerfed warrior actually

[teal slate]

yes or no

[smoky nacelle]

Scroll up

[untold quail]

what does it mean they were found ahahah

[azure wolf]

when opening vault we always loot spec arms right

[ionic lance]

I knew it!! i guess my low dps was bec the buffs didnt went live! not because i suck!

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[sullen dove]

doesnt matter anymore can be fury if you want

[frozen scarab]

what is this bro.

[sullen tendon]

“So I am coming back to warrior after not playing it since df. Do I play slayer or thane?”

[teal slate]

brother you missed the joke

[sullen dove]

a nice helmet

[sharp valve]

Fury belt no?

[lavish sierra]

Oh dear lord I just changed my angle on skull crushers and that's fantastic

[verbal sluice]

bro stay away from warrior

the leave us out

[frozen scarab]

is it insane with cat charge

[sullen dove]

idk if u dont have a myth helmet yet helm's usually a big upgrade

but also if u plan to use bonus rolls on a dungeon with a helmet

prolly might as well just get the roll then in case u roll a helmet and completely waste the roll/vault

[frozen scarab]

oh shit i still got champ helm wtf 😭

[sly merlin]

wtf

urccooked

[frozen scarab]

oh my days

[sullen tendon]

Hoping I get vorasius trinket in vault so I can spend rolls on dungeons instead of raid

[undone flower]

I hope I get seat gloves so I don’t have to go on that journey

[sullen dove]

yea i should finish nexus journey this week please god dont let me roll that atrocious trinket

dont want to take coins out of my vault and give up bellamy weapon for fury but might have to

[sullen tendon]

I’m hoping I get trash in my vault just so I get the extra roll

[somber elk]

when are buffs in the sims?

[digital mauve]

used roll and lotted the wrong chimaerus trinket;...

[frozen scarab]

son

[subtle lagoon]

imagine not going prot loot spec

[sullen dove]

didnt go prot loot spec...

[digital mauve]

omg

i didnt know

[sullen dove]

happens

next week fo sho

[digital mauve]

looted vorasisu trinket on mythic yesterday on bonus roll too

I guess luck doesnt happen twice in a row

[sullen dove]

o thats epic doe

B)

[frozen scarab]

wait what does prot loot spec do

[digital mauve]

only one trinket

the right one

[frozen scarab]

holy shit

[digital mauve]

yes same reaction

I got baited

looted ther wrong one

[frozen scarab]

wow

[wheat lantern]

remember when i complained about the 50/50 rng luck with the ring and cloak , I TAKE IT BACK. lets gooooooooooooooo. good odds

[digital mauve]

why is those gloves so important?

[subtle lagoon]

they're bis

[sullen dove]

wowie

[digital mauve]

I got 289 one with crit haste isnt that good?

[drifting token]

those gloves have a special proc on them

[sullen dove]

yea pretty good extra damage for free when stats arent awful, and they can proc alleria necklace if you use that sometimes you do

[digital mauve]

but are they really vastly better than others?

[sullen dove]

its not massive no

maybe like .1-.3 at best overall probably

more if ur using alleria neck

but still cool

[subtle lagoon]

probably better stats are better but idk if there are haste mastery gloves

[digital mauve]

also if I killed chim on myth with pugs tonight, I'll still be able to kill it tomorrow with my guild after reset righht?

[digital mauve]

they're versa

which sucks

I guess the bonus effect makes up for it?

[sullen dove]

its not great but the proc outweighs the slightly less worthwhile stats

and verse still isnt completely useless

[frozen scarab]

why is the myth helm simming worse than my current champ helm am i doing smth wrong 💀

[sullen dove]

did you catalyze it?

if u break your 4set yeah of course

[frozen scarab]

yeah i did cat

[sullen dove]

well fury 4set pretty trash tbh

that does sound quite strange then..

link perhaps

[frozen scarab]

nvm site wasnt updated

[stiff barn]

Gem?

[sullen dove]

epic

[stiff barn]

Ah fair

[pulsar quest]

What the hell is a nebulas voidcache

[frozen scarab]

voidcores i think

[pulsar quest]

Oh bonus roll

[wispy thistle]

does the prior on RB or execute change at all with thje buffs?

[sullen dove]

execute good

rb still very not good

[uneven path]

I love this

Making slury great

[coarse nest]

Hidden channel

[sullen dove]

hide deez

[runic pine]

oh shit finally, execute button makes more sense to press in execute over normal buttons

[sullen dove]

why didnt colo arms get more buffs

[lean nacelle]

do we still drop massacre for ER when playing thane?

[versed harness]

Question playing thane M+ on recklessness do you spam rampage or bloodbath if you have the procs?

[sullen tendon]

Rampage if over 100 rage

[versed harness]

so still just try not to cap

[sullen tendon]

Yea

[versed harness]

OK thank you

[next mica]

what are thoughts on arms vs fury on new patch?

[sullen tendon]

I hate arms

[cinder viper]

ive just done a sim'

[drifting token]

same thoughts as before patch, i play fury or i don't play warrior

[cinder viper]

i have gear sets for both, with right stats for each spec

fury simmed like, 20k higher than arms

[next mica]

what did you sim it on? : D

[cinder viper]

thats sim output

i toggled off all buffs but battle shout to be as raw as possible

[lean nacelle]

dslice kinda sucks, just sim 1 or 5 target patchwerk

[cinder viper]

mkay

ill run that and see the diff

[willow delta]

so is ruin being taken now?

[modest condor]

no

[willow delta]

why not

I want it so bad

[modest condor]

because it kills your prio target dps during aoe

you can take it in weekly keys but not for pushing