dude i swear its these tanks
#fury
sullen tendon
they dont understand chain pulling
the healer isnt oom
the mos we are killing are at 10% health
just pull the next pack
the ywill die on the way
but the tanks just sit there and the nmove after htey die
over an entire dungeon im sure that loses like 2-3 minutes
sly merlin
i had one crazy beast tank who was crazy w the chains and pulls in general and then he pulled 3 echo knights and 4 casters together at the end for some reason
sullen tendon
we are always tight on timers because tanks dont chain pull in higher keys for some reason
untold quail
Timed my 19 with 5s left and never felt like such a liability as col
sullen tendon
and the nwe scramble at the end whe nyou need to lust the trash mobs to get to last boss on time]
languid willow
Think the 19 I timed we had like 2 deaths and a insane route and we still only timed with a min left and we were all pumping
sullen tendon
Timed my 19 with 5s left and never felt like such a liability as col
we missed timer on 19 because 3 people died on trash pack before boss
timer missed by like 30 seconds
are you guys playing arms or fury?
untold quail
yeah we were blasting I died 1 second into lust on crawth so that didn’t help but you have to play so well to have a shot
sullen tendon
it feels so bad as fury
languid willow
I’m playing fury
sly merlin
idk they gotta make some of the big move maybe have a bit less hp or something
sullen tendon
people gapping you by like 40-50k sometimes
sly merlin
i’m playing fury and i have it timed on 18
languid willow
It’s all bloat
untold quail
Timer increase isn’t the move though don’t make that key longer
untold quail
From the first pull
especially if you run with a Druid
sly merlin
the birds are fuck as well for time i think the first pack w/o the alpha eagle just shouldn’t be there ngl
sullen tendon
Timer increase isn’t the move though don’t make that key longer
i dont evne think the casters are a problem. every now and then someone gets blasted by them but in most keys its fine. the last mobs with the giant slams are annoying and have a shit ton of health which makes people bleed out eventually if they line up
and the circles that move
languid willow
And kill everyone’s damage
sullen tendon
making it hard to interupt the bolt spammers
languid willow
But it’s nice
sullen tendon
bears are great when they are invinxcible ones
low end bears are shit and high end bears are insane
atleast until tomorrow
i was hoping to finish resil 19s tonight but AA is a slog as usual
untold quail
either druid tbh feral eats that first pull
languid willow
I think my comp was havoc, surv hunt, me on fury, disc priest and brew
spare steppe
disc priest o.O
sullen tendon
disc lol
sleeper
ive ra na few keys with good discs
never felt like i was low on health
untold quail
I’ve played fury and col and col feels better except on bosses obviously and there you feel like a loser
languid willow
sullen tendon
other keys you wont top dps as fury but you will atleast feel on par with other dps or maybe come in second but in AA it jsut feels so bad
you feel like youre getting carried in every AA
languid willow
In seat I’m doing numbers
Hopefully this week with the buffs
Our AA looks less depressing
Because idk I’m just not gonna plays arms this season
The rage starvation feels miserable
sullen tendon
damn your dh got a 100 nice
languid willow
Yea he is an irl bud of mine
languid willow
He is a beast
sullen tendon
im gonan try slayer in AA tomorrow
it may help on the lasher pack too
if you get good reap procs
the boss dam is what matters
especially on crwath
languid willow
I parsed an 85 and did less than the grey parse hunter
languid willow
Same
sullen tendon
and then the ret and dk 40k above me are parsing grey
sullen tendon
I missed 20 pit a few nights ago by 1 minute and i think it was just cause of not chain pulling and ret and dk parsing grey
random shadow
Is your pally and dk afk?
languid willow
Bro Idk
sullen tendon
even though my parse was shit
languid willow
We timed it tho
sullen tendon
but as fury were only competing with liek 10-20 other people in the world
languid willow
Yes it’s like 40 rn
sullen tendon
and rets and dks and devs are competing iwth thousands
sullen tendon
if there were 1000 fury wars with 19 parses our parses would be 90s
languid willow
Well idrc too much about prog keys anyways I just want my fake dopamine points at the end of the day
But at least I can feel like I know how to play decently lol
sullen tendon
im pushing jsut cause its not a cancer season
where you can only do high keys if you do perfect rogue skips or 4 pack lust pulls with mages and dks
languid willow
Idk man it took me 16 tries to get a 19 seat timed, these healers have it rough in there
Everything fucking hurts
sullen tendon
second is usualy fine for me
random shadow
Idk man it took me 16 tries to get a 19 seat timed, these healers have it rough ...
Healers have it rough in general
languid willow
Yea this shit is tough I feel bad
sullen tendon
the 19 i timed for it i died to an instant pounce after explosion
like 0.5 seconds after the explosion went off
sly merlin
i’m pretty sure key % parses for fury are kinda cooked because there’s so few of them
random shadow
I think itd after a certain point you do enjoy higher keys as healers
sullen tendon
i’m pretty sure key % parses for fury are kinda cooked because there’s so few of...
it is
random shadow
Not just after switching ans practicing
languid willow
I wanna gear my MW
sullen tendon
you ahve stattik and noxiv with 20k dps over everyone else
sly merlin
like i parsed a 70 something key% and i checked it and it was like rank 22 dmg
or maybe it was lower
for parse
languid willow
Yes I’m usually top 20 with 80 parses and I’m just like wtf
My paladins kill my guild let me go fury
And I parsed an 82 or something
And it was the 16th ranked
sullen tendon
I got a 99 on M chimerus and i was like 30th or something
and the top fury was some chinese guy with 3 power infusions
languid willow
LOLOL
sullen tendon
this looks so ass
sly merlin
happens
languid willow
I’ve been trying to convince warriors I see queued in the 19-20 range to do double warrior but they never bite
sly merlin
people r saying the dk nerfs aren’t that bad but isn’t their top 2 dmg getting nerfed by like 15% each
or am o crazy
sullen tendon
i stopped paying attention to dk nerfs and buffs becuase everytime they announce them its like reading a fucking book
the beta changes were insane
it was like 150 lines of changes
sly merlin
i tried to check their class discord for the number crunch but i couldnt find it
that place is a mess
languid willow
Mine isnt much better boon
olive wraith
To be fair m+ parses can be misleading
sullen tendon
Mine isnt much better boon
blue looks better than green
sly merlin
the nerfs will prob come w a niche bug that makes them so 10% more dmg than intended
olive wraith
People don’t really log keys
sullen dove
5.7% aoe nerf for dk
kermieee graveyaaaard
sullen tendon
i feel kinda lucky when i push keys because i seem to always have less timed keys than other people
I just time it and move on to the next
but other people have like 30 of each dungeon done
dapper goblet
kermieee graveyaaaard
focus up piggy
languid willow
I just ran my own key a 100 times over because I never get invites as fury
sullen tendon
oh yea
i was doing that for a while
i usually only do it at the start of a resil push though
becase you have a higher chance ot get one you need
then when i have like 3/8 left i jsut pug spam
sullen dove
focus up piggy
perma focused performing immaculately ty
haughty zephyr
How are we simming nowadays?
frank dawn
poorly
haughty zephyr
is it 5 min 1 target?
olive wraith
Ya for st
thorny sparrow
any talent tree changes since the buff report or is it same as it was?
olive wraith
sly merlin
if im first down on chimmy should i hold my cds for adds
for parsemaxxing
or not worth
winter shoal
You can if you want yeah but your parse will be more based around how much other people do/don't blow up adds
to truly parsemaxx you'll want to hold cds and also bribe your raid to ignore the adds and let you solo them
or just go for boss dam because the adds die instantly at this point
sly merlin
i hit boss then ig
winter shoal
slarms angle
winter shoal
After reset maybe
sullen tendon
if im first down on chimmy should i hold my cds for adds
If you’re up first pop them on pull with lust if you’re down only pop odyns and save reck and av for down phase. Then if you are up on pull your cds will be back up after lust in time for adds when they come to up side. And if you are down your cds will be back up just in time to kill your teammates while you run over to kill adds.
But it’s their fault anyways for not moving out of your way
That’s the important part to remember
thorny sparrow
<#1234949058121171069>
i read that, the last line is "we'll re-evaluate more over the weekend"
thats what im checking
olive wraith
thats what im checking
If there was new info it would be there
keen kindle
9 ilvl difference getting gapped is crazy
frozen scarab
thought bonus roll dupes werent possible.
dawn dawn
thats broadly correct
eternal lance
indigo arch
can't wait for buffs, debating fleeing from arms
I don't run a 5 stack so w/e aoe I get is w/e from arms
sly merlin
we making things happen team
random shadow
I don't run a 5 stack so w/e aoe I get is w/e from arms
Arms aoe good even in pugs tho
indigo arch
Arms aoe good even in pugs tho
Yea, with the tues buffs I do wonder if thane fury would be close to colo
Presuming not knowing route/tank etc
or at least close enough
I rarely get tanks who get me funnel so
Could just be a product of the key level aka 17s
Need to push into 18/19s and maybe I'll get tanks that pull around specs
Much rather fury tbh, half a mind to say fuck it and full recraft to fury shit
no point pugging to a title or trying to as a spec I hate lmao
deft palm
how much damage should i average on dragons mythic?
slim coral
like 165k
random shadow
Yea, with the tues buffs I do wonder if thane fury would be close to colo
Idk if thanes gonna really be that close to col
deft palm
damn alright
indigo arch
Idk if thanes gonna really be that close to col
Realistically I expect this to be the case, sadly
in that colo will still gap thane
even in a pug with unpredictable pulls
and no boss funnel
pearl sequoia
how much damage should i average on dragons mythic?
depends if ur in a comp with a lot of burst aoe
random shadow
Like the 5% is cool sure. But thats pretty much it. Rb is still wet noodle. Exe isnt really important to thane. Its mostly slayer buffs too
random shadow
Meanwhile col has the larger aoe overall. Op buff is nice but redt hasn't been touched
indigo arch
Execute needs like +100% or more buff
random shadow
Idk why prot was the only one that got the thunder buff
indigo arch
Execute is a wet noodle anymore
random shadow
Execute needs like +100% or more buff
I mean exe is good and strong. On slayer tho
indigo arch
execute range used to mean shit
random shadow
Its just thane has no use for it
sullen tendon
every AA ive done today has fallen apart on the end mobs because every tank does it differently or tries to do some fucky shit
random shadow
Personally I enjoy clicking exe as slayer. Feels good for both specs
sullen tendon
they try CCing one caster and then pulling the rest into the hallway but then the ccd caster community aggros the pack on the gras
and then instead of 4 smahers we have 5
plus another caster
random shadow
I wish a lot of things for both specs
fading sky
as slayer execute feels good
I mean as thane it does good dmg dw and rage
As slayer even more
indigo arch
I'm just glad they did anything
Still probably not enough
but hopefully one pass of multiple
indigo arch
yeeep.
indigo arch
I mainly m+ so slayer buffs do fuckall for me
unless they suddenly time machine our asses to s3 tww
fading sky
Still 7%? Thane?
indigo arch
Yea, it's certainly a start
fading sky
Its a lot
indigo arch
Now they just gotta buff thane past colo so I can flee from this goofy ass spec
and never return (until fury is cheeks again)
indigo arch
I'd probably fuck with slayer arms over colo if given the shot
fading sky
Id take les overall aoe for bigger st anyday until team plays around u
fading sky
Spin animation= neurons
Worst part
Agree
🤣
No but like slayer arms should still have good funnel + better gen st
indigo arch
I like being a beyblade
indigo arch
Wouldn't mind if they leaned into that for arms, and turned fury into something that just blasts overall
fading sky
Less mass aoe longer time prio dmg alive
indigo arch
But they'd never do that
indigo arch
They need to make fury absolutely melt 5tar
indigo arch
and blast st
indigo arch
Make every bt hit like it does during vicious contempt range kty
fading sky
Furys flat dmg profile should come with higg st
fading sky
Nah
random shadow
I have no real probably as col in pugs tbh imo
indigo arch
make cshb do more dam too, tbnh
fading sky
U just made us flatter
indigo arch
tbh*
fading sky
Ideally buff our reck windows and cv
indigo arch
I just want fury to have higher overall so zero wrinkle lfg leads invite the spec
LMAO
fading sky
Cb*
fading sky
I have no real probably as col in pugs tbh imo
Wdym
indigo arch
Reck should be more impactful too, yea
fading sky
Do they give u all funnel
woven shoal
I think in going to switch to fury. Seems like all I really need to do is recraft my stuff to haste mastery, get the pvp neck, and change gems/enchants and im pretty much good to go if im in full arms bis
fading sky
Then u are super hampered
random shadow
Overall still big. St hit or miss. But no real issues with it in pugs
indigo arch
That's what I mean really, I prob am going thane
random shadow
I think in going to switch to fury. Seems like all I really need to do is recraf...
Can play some keys as fury with current gear first to see if you like the dpect before full gearing
random shadow
Depends on the keylevel tbh
indigo arch
hopefully 17 to 18/19s= tanks who actually bring you funnel
random shadow
If you're just doing 12s. Dont really matter
fading sky
hopefully 17 to 18/19s= tanks who actually bring you funnel
Higher
random shadow
hopefully 17 to 18/19s= tanks who actually bring you funnel
I've had fee tanks funnel in my 16s
indigo arch
Rounding out 17 resil, so yea. I've been playin too many alts
hopefully higher keys and they start doing what's needed
or thane angle
110%
random shadow
I should touch fury again. Now have a second myth weapon so it should be better
Tho guidon sounds terrible for fury
indigo arch
Need to snag the weapon from pit for arms so I can just recraft my sword with the hunt shit to feverflare
woven shoal
Can play some keys as fury with current gear first to see if you like the dpect ...
I leveled with it and it was pretty fun. It seems like its going to be better than arms starting tomorrow no?
random shadow
I leveled with it and it was pretty fun. It seems like its going to be better th...
Nah
Col probably still out perform in keys
woven shoal
What about raid?
random shadow
I think slayer arms is slightly ahead not fully sure. Last time I checked fury was at the bottom
woven shoal
Hmmm good to know. I feel like arms is hard. Today i couldn't get about like 15th on meter on heroic crown. We didnt down it btw
Above*
random shadow
Hm could be a factor of many stuff. Can't exactally pinpoint without logs. Fury does pad better then arms in p1 tho
P3 I think arms is better. But then again its heroic
floral bay
I think slayer arms is slightly ahead not fully sure. Last time I checked fury w...
I think Fury slayer can probably be a decent option after buffs too
random shadow
I haven't recleared void in a hot minute. Espically as arms
floral bay
for stuff like NK or voracius. Maybe Lura
random shadow
I havent been able to redo pallies as arms since ik how to play it now and better gear smh
random shadow
for stuff like NK or voracius. Maybe Lura
Lura I believe arms is better due to execute phase
At least thats what the type warrior folks are playing
floral bay
Lura I believe arms is better due to execute phase
I havent seen the fight on mythic, no clue
only HC
woven shoal
I got 3rd on meter doing heroic palis. I have way more practice on colossus/aoe xuz if m+
undone flower
Im in baze side, slury is the Lura way next week
woven shoal
Fosho ill definitely wait and see before making any decisions
random shadow
Fosho ill definitely wait and see before making any decisions
Its more about are you having fun with it or not
Cause you'll perform better if you enjoy. If you only care for numbers. Better off playing a more meta spec
sudden tusk
BUFFS WHEN I WAKE UP RAHHHH
random shadow
BUFFS WHEN I WAKE UP RAHHHH
Hi Madox how is u
sudden tusk
good
gleaming yacht
dapper goblet
BUFFS WHEN I WAKE UP RAHHHH
what if you dont wake up
sudden tusk
olive wraith
Great thumbnail
final vapor
So fury > arms now?
young swan
they're pretty equal
frigid geyser
is fury going MT right?
young swan
yeah
slayer has better arguments in its favor now, but it'll prob just be thane for most people
sudden tusk
slayer still feels better for lura from my pulls tonight
but thane for anything thats not basically ST
upbeat plume
I'm wondering who lost more with the deep wounds bug fix, I assume arms?
sudden tusk
yeah
radiant plank
Always arms
upbeat plume
Well I was thinking cause they spam execute alot more post 35% and they get it on their main spenders crits
And filler too now I guess
amber bough
@limpid widget likes using women and blaming his mental health
radiant plank
Poor Jamey
amber bough
😭love that
random shadow
<@1230504020821414011> likes using women and blaming his mental health
What the man do
woven shoal
Cause you'll perform better if you enjoy. If you only care for numbers. Better o...
True. I do enjoy arms
amber bough
What the man do
Used me for everything and blocked me and came back recently saying he changed and can fix everything.
random shadow
Used me for everything and blocked me and came back recently saying he changed a...
Ic. I wish the best for you
fathom wolf
amber bough
Honestly me too 😭
amber bough
https://tenor.com/view/who-cares-gif-24186436
Uh well not ur gay ass but someone did
radiant plank
Used me for everything and blocked me and came back recently saying he changed a...
Fair game give him a shot
radiant plank
Maybe he blocked you while he was at the therapist
random shadow
That's a interesting take tho
radiant plank
and now he wants to mend your friendship
hushed ocean
maybe the therapist told him to do so
amber bough
😭then that therapist did fuck all
sly merlin
how does this affect the fury warrior rotation
amber bough
and now he wants to mend your friendship
Nahh he wants me back and to love him and shit
radiant plank
Nahh he wants me back and to love him and shit
fair
random shadow
how does this affect the fury warrior rotation
Mental goes boom. Boom no good
radiant plank
give him a shot
random shadow
Mental goes boom = dps loss
radiant plank
if he was in this discord chat im sure he cant be bad
amber bough
Mental goes boom. Boom no good
It wasn’t just a boom, it was a nuclear bomb
amber bough
if he was in this discord chat im sure he cant be bad
💀
hushed ocean
guys watch out when you're typing !
smoky vale
bad word!!!
hushed ocean
missed that blank space
smoky vale
also bro has no messages typed @amber bough
amber bough
also bro has no messages typed <@1056801640079966248>
😭
random shadow
Doing it for the love of the game ig
amber bough
Ig man
fathom wolf
Probably left cause of her parses.
amber bough
we can hate on him though
😭🫶🏻
amber bough
Probably left cause of her parses.
Bro i don’t even know what that means
I do a bit
Not to much
smoky vale
escape!!!
slim coral
slayer has better arguments in its favor now, but it'll prob just be thane for m...
the real gamba is slayer
smoky vale
do not play more wow
amber bough
Oop
slim coral
big gambas
random shadow
The chat loves you
hushed ocean
we all
radiant plank
we can hate on him though
wrong side bro??
fathom wolf
Ya'll simpin for a void DH. Scum pigs.
slim coral
surely mythic lura neck in vault tomorrow
amber bough
The chat loves you
🫶
slim coral
radiant plank
Shuurely
random shadow
The duality of folks. One we have fury chat where lady is upset about guy. Then arms where dude is upset about rouge
Cloud
Not sure that is possible
eternal tree
any consensus on whether the fury buffs going live will make it worth swapping the bloodthirst talents over to the RB talents?
sudden tusk
sudden tusk
any consensus on whether the fury buffs going live will make it worth swapping t...
builds wont change
radiant plank
any consensus on whether the fury buffs going live will make it worth swapping t...
no
slim coral
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075209185945456684/1495112458686169369/t...
its ok you only have 550 more pulls of it to go
sudden tusk
same shit just better
radiant plank
random shadow
any consensus on whether the fury buffs going live will make it worth swapping t...
No rb is a wet noodle
sudden tusk
we still press WW over RB
eternal tree
even with the +5 aura and +40 on RB, sadge
sudden tusk
well
you press WW as if it was rend becuase of the application with imp ww
but still
inland coral
last key before the buff haha im so ready for it (SR +17)
fathom wolf
How much of a loss is it to just use RB and WW when everything else is down?
slim coral
it basically doesnt matter unless you're pushing max level content like world first keys or raid
hushed ocean
you press WW as if it was rend becuase of the application with imp ww
That will always surprise me that this kind of change took so long to happen
slim coral
its like .6 last I heard or something small like that
hushed ocean
It should have been like that from the start
fathom wolf
I can keep rend up as both arms specs but for some reason my brain will not allow me to keep it up in ST as fury slayer.
dense elbow
How much of a loss is it to just use RB and WW when everything else is down?
Would be a dps increase, as it is still better than pressing nothing
undone flower
Bc keeping it up is not a thing you do
You fill with it, sometime you just let it drop bc you used your CDs etc
It’s like letting sudden death fade off as thane
Need to get used to the weirdness
sudden tusk
the optimization is very small
i just use a cast sequence macro for WW into raging blow
works p well
sudden tusk
its like /castsequence reset=6 Whirlwind, Raging blow, Raging Blow, Raging Blow
my spelling might be off
but it essentially presses WW before casting raging blow
then turns into raging blow
but i think it might be a loss during Reck becuase of crushing blow
so ill have to relook at the math see if its worth
misty edge
We have like 4 buttons no way you are making these macros...
sudden tusk
Gonna make a macro that /w Xeoswonka-Area57 Goobus every thime i rampage
sullen dove
misty edge
He doesn't play blue man
sudden tusk
at least we arent full extending yet
or well we probably should
no real reason to rekill belo
but we will next week
sullen dove
aint no way any reason to ever kill belo till lura dead dahelly
prolly easy ish but still could just die to ballsge forever
sullen dove
everyone just get plume from vault ez
sudden tusk
i will follow and attack
sullen dove
would be fun
sudden tusk
im guessing the idea is to still get everyone play/kills while we continue to prog Lura
instead of locking in before they actually nerf the boss for HoF
sullen dove
yea i mean rekillin like chim and up to pallies is like chopped cheese
but alleria belo just kinda probably will take more than 0 seconds of time
sudden tusk
tho i do think belo rekill prob not ideal ill bring up just extending it
sullen dove
and kinda drop whatever
sudden tusk
since looking at our sheet almost noone who is in on lura needs belo loot
oooh i see
they reset the sheets so people could redo their sims before we go back in
so its not showing correctly
flat river
https://tenor.com/view/can-i-get-uhhh-uh-uhh-uhhhh-uhhhhh-gif-160279644258501794...
Can I get uhhhhh
uhhhhh
the uhhhhh
xD
brittle crow
go to ur guild chat losers
undone flower
sudden tusk
go to ur guild chat losers
brittle crow
omg flandre hiiii
brittle crow
deserved
half valve
Team, what is the best warriorspec for Belo'ren prog?
Looks like non of our options do good egg dmg, but is there a world where we focus on the birds and small eggs instead and specc for that?
sudden tusk
Team, what is the best warriorspec for Belo'ren prog?
Looks like non of our op...
with the extended phase it doesnt matter anymore
focus small bird til raid leader say push
then do dam
Both arms and fury are good enough
half valve
Yea, seems like its going to be a walk in the park with the dmg check
half valve
with the extended phase it doesnt matter anymore
Cheers
brittle crow
with the extended phase it doesnt matter anymore
extended phase?
sudden tusk
33% more time
half valve
making the dmg check pretty chill for a two phase kill
sudden tusk
no
half valve
are you SUPPOSED to one cycle it
2
brittle crow
ic
sudden tusk
it just makes the check WAY easier
brittle crow
my guild hasn't even done heroic beloren so
sudden tusk
still not a joke
brittle crow
4/9m haven't cleared heroic march kinda weirdge idk
i think we're doing it on an off night this week just to say we did
tardy lark
heroic march kinda has a weird place if you are a sort of progressed mythic guild
you can get all the items slots it provides at higher ilvl and higher ceiling, but id argue its (or at least was) harder than salhadar mythic
brittle crow
salhadaar fell over even for our hamburger cheeseburger ass guild
we're currently hardstuck dragons i think
tardy lark
yeah dragons is the first actual boss in the raid
took us 17 or 18 pulls while the previous bosses were 1-4
brittle crow
haha i wish
sudden tusk
heroic march is harder then first 4 for sure
vague stump
I wish I had better tanks for paladins man
undone flower
4/9m haven't cleared heroic march kinda weirdge idk
dw I killed mythic alleria before killing heroic lura
brittle crow
we're 30 in and we're consistently wiping after intermission 1
voracious took us over 50
tardy lark
💀
undone flower
we're 30 in and we're consistently wiping after intermission 1
voracious took us...
If it’s the move -> get back to original pos that’s killing you, it’s not bc your healers
vague stump
I hate how my performance is linked to tanks being able to group up bosses. like my soak group didnt even have a fucking boss in it yesterday so im just afk for 10 seconds
brittle crow
took us 17 or 18 pulls while the previous bosses were 1-4
idk what's killing us on dragons all i know is it's not killing me
oops wrong reply
brittle crow
took us 17 or 18 pulls while the previous bosses were 1-4
i want to be in a good paced mythic prog guild so bad but they're impossible to get into if u hate talking to people
undone flower
Huh
brittle crow
or rather, hate putting myself out there
undone flower
I have guild mates I never heard talking
vague stump
going into next tier is going to be so hard getting into better guilds with the log issues right now
brittle crow
how else do u get into a guild? u have to advertise yourself like a piece of meat
undone flower
You don’t phone call ppl to get in guilds
vague stump
like all my logs for boss dmg are in the 90s but my chim log is fucking green
tardy lark
i want to be in a good paced mythic prog guild so bad but they're impossible to ...
Just do a Wallife and make it to Echo/Liquid before talking
being freakishly good helps that journey though
brittle crow
with good logs
what logs my heroic logs mean nothing and my mythic logs are slopped with ugly kills 😭
undone flower
Yeah logs will just make you auto accepted
radiant plank
what logs my heroic logs mean nothing and my mythic logs are slopped with ugly k...
get 99 hc logs
apply to any wr 500 or higher guild
u get in
tardy lark
You don’t phone call ppl to get in guilds
the higher you go, the more pre trial interviews you'll do
undone flower
Don’t sell hc logs dream too much
vague stump
bro I had to do an interview or whatever for like a late CE guild lmao
undone flower
Filling forms 
tardy lark
I mean i'd rather vibecheck the dumdums im spending 6-12 hours a week with
brittle crow
do u have to log urself to have ur logs on ur profile on wcl
leaden oyster
Hi so uh, I'm starting to get into higher level mythics. Every time I go into a mythic I get yelled at. People keep yelling 'Look up a rotation! Look up a rotation! Look up a rotation!'
So I go to wowhead and I look and its just telling me to do what I already do. I don't understand.
vague stump
interviews seem like theyre quite common
undone flower
They are not rly interviews
vague stump
yeah I mean I didn't get many questions
radiant plank
its more like a wibe check
tardy lark
do u have to log urself to have ur logs on ur profile on wcl
no just someone in the group you're in
undone flower
They gonna trial you it’s just the hi meeting
vague stump
just this is what we are ect ect ect
brittle crow
no just someone in the group you're in
yea we have a logger
my personal logs are all from 3 yrs ago tho
on my profile
vague stump
ngl tho boys
tardy lark
if you can hold a conversation for 10 minutes without raising red flags or dropping n-bombs, you are prolly passing vibe check and go onto trial
leaden oyster
Like am I just not SPAMMING rampage enough? I just don't get it.
vague stump
how tf do we parse on chim now
tardy lark
how tf do we parse on chim now
have everyone else ST the big guy while you squish the smallies solo
If you have dirt on your guild, you can have them CC the smallies outside and you can squish them once more
vague stump
I think I might just fucking leap when smallies come out and start and kill people downstairs
undone flower
how tf do we parse on chim now
Go in dream phase and when you are not -> attack adds instantly when they pop in reality
vague stump
fuck it
tardy lark
I loved chasing parses when playing with walli
loud viper
Anyone have a maccro to switch beetween thunderclap and WW when one is talented ( for slayer or thane )
tardy lark
but now being solo warrior its not as fun
undone flower
I think the perfect move is to group 2 -> and go again with group 1 after intermission
tardy lark
Back in Sabotage
timid tide
Go in dream phase and when you are not -> attack adds instantly when they pop in...
Get aggro, die, get yelled at
tardy lark
But played with Walli in CyaThursday
sudden tusk
walli gamer
slate light
Anyone have a maccro to switch beetween thunderclap and WW when one is talented ...
yes
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Thunder Clap] Thunder Clap; [known:Whirlwind] Whirlwind
tardy lark
had something to prove the tier after he joined Echo xdd
i did beat my own rank 1 on ansurek 3 weeks in a row
vague stump
if I def stance w stance mastery now you think we can go down both times for adds 😂
brittle crow
get 99 hc logs
it's cooked
sudden tusk
i did beat my own rank 1 on ansurek 3 weeks in a row
aagaard gamer
radiant plank
it's cooked
you can get into any guild progging paladins rn with these logs
brittle crow
maybe..
radiant plank
100%
even dragons prog is ok pace
which you can use to parse farm the early bosses and guild hop
vague stump
we can probs even play fury now in paladins right?
brittle crow
problem is im Friends with some of my guildies and id feel bad lol
timid tide
Hi so uh, I'm starting to get into higher level mythics. Every time I go into a ...
On big pulls, especially with lust I just go thunder clap/blast rampage most of the times, until adds start dying and there are like 3-4 left, then I go for BT/BB and clap. Otherwise you drop off the meters.
I also had a 3.6 tank yell at me to stop doing interrupts and focus dmg?! When no one else was (besides him)
sudden tusk
depends on what you play for tbh
its harder to find a guild you enjoy being in vs going for rank
pearl sequoia
if u dont have past mythic experience then yea just try get 99 herroic logs, i did that exactly to get into my first CE guild
radiant plank
problem is im Friends with some of my guildies and id feel bad lol
you can stay friends even in another guild
sudden tusk
ranking is easy
brittle crow
true..
undone flower
it's cooked
If you can have purple parse in first 4 in mythisch you can go in many guilds (purple doesn’t rly require immense pad)
leaden oyster
On big pulls, especially with lust I just go thunder clap/blast rampage most of ...
Whats is BB?
vague stump
I have been playing col but man my tanks are awful keeping sweep uptime and synced is horrible half the time im only hitting 1 boss not 2
like its mostly on elephant phase when we break shield they seem to struggle to keep them together
leaden oyster
On big pulls, especially with lust I just go thunder clap/blast rampage most of ...
So like, basically just never cast execute?
pearl sequoia
I have been playing col but man my tanks are awful keeping sweep uptime and sync...
yea paladins is just if ur tanks are good lol
timid tide
So like, basically just never cast execute?
More like a filler and over RB. BB is bloodbath. On 2-3-4 mobs and when you don't have enough rage for rampage, and when you have WW buff, and when BT is on CD, sure, vast execute over RB
undone flower
I have been playing col but man my tanks are awful keeping sweep uptime and sync...
Did you tell them ?
vague stump
y they're working on it
sudden tusk
on paladins its just super sketch
my tanks have to split them half the time
its gets us through farm so its w/e
undone flower
It can be, I complained enough so brew now milk the timer to get the aura dude out last moment 
I am very vocal
fleet yarrow
dem logs aren't gonna make themselves
vague stump
yeah idk just shit when I look at my dmg knowing that it isnt really me playing super bad
undone flower
How much dps are you around ?
Bc if it’s 150-160k you can… just play fury
On paladins
vague stump
errr overall 180 ish
dense brook
Rogues just got 4% extra on their aura we need to send our biggest crashout to ask for more
undone flower
That’s still good -> you do more than you would have by playing fury, so idk hope your tanks will fix it
vague stump
its okay but when I look at like top 100 logs doing like high 190s 200s I am like yeah I just dont get the uptime for that lol
brittle crow
If you can have purple parse in first 4 in mythisch you can go in many guilds (p...
i blue parsed 1st and 2nd boss
90 parsed chimmy
wasn't there for the salhadaar kill
undone flower
its okay but when I look at like top 100 logs doing like high 190s 200s I am lik...
When there is the monk mass dispel / all the shields going out, are they still stacked ?
unkempt dagger
Rogues just got 4% extra on their aura we need to send our biggest crashout to a...
ay bro i have rogue in my m+ comp, any buffs are good buffs
vague stump
When there is the monk mass dispel / all the shields going out, are they still s...
na lol one is normally at the back and I have 2 to hit when shields are going out
the only time I really get good time on 3 is before the aura casts after shields
sudden tusk
90 parsed chimmy
i found a good edit if you want one more before i bedge
vague stump
but its like maybe half a smash window?
brittle crow
i found a good edit if you want one more before i bedge
send
vague stump
so I can normally get my cleves and demo out on 3 but outside of that is just 2t mostly
undone flower
na lol one is normally at the back and I have 2 to hit when shields are going ou...
If they form kinda a line if you hit the middle one you hit all 3 with cleave, you can be a fat jerk about staying in melee
brittle crow
hard wtf
undone flower
Idk if I can find a clip
sudden tusk
Beaver Nation
brittle crow
will wait for a blue to change my name to #1 beaver fan
vague stump
If they form kinda a line if you hit the middle one you hit all 3 with cleave, y...
tbh I am deffo thinking I need to play more selfish for sure and not stick to assigned stuff like on healer soaks yesterday I didnt even have a boss to hit in 2 of them because our tanks forgot to split them
undone flower
You don’t have 1 group with all your melees ?
vague stump
no we have 2 melee groups
undone flower
Okok
vague stump
I did say tho last night me and the dk are switching when that happens and ill call it
because he can do everything from far and I cant
undone flower
We had just 1 extra ret and udk so we just had them in a soak close to melee group, idk how it looks like with lot of melees
vague stump
they're our assigments
radiant plank
why
vague stump
so yeah basically half our raid is melee and the other half is ranged lol
vague stump
idk bro as the RL
vague stump
I did say tbh me and the dk need to switch if im gonna lose downtime because I aint got a boss plus 2 are up then and then it doesnt fuck my sweep blah blah
and I just got okay we will look into it
but next raid im going in the group w the bosses fuck it
lol
radiant plank
i mean
your Rl is trolling
if he jsut doesnt swap it like asap
shoulda been you in melee soak since start
unless your RL is playing fdk
then its 5050
vague stump
bro but warr does no damage apparently so it doesnt mattter LOOL
vague stump
yeah I have said. we will see if I get updated assignments on reset before reclear thurs if not maybe its a riot angle
unreal onyx
Surely with the buffs fury will be goated 
sullen dove
cluegert
vague stump
I know but the brains of some of the RL in late CE guilds arent the best lol
undone flower
I hope fury will be good on beloren
I did my first egg phases and I contracted depression
sullen dove
unreal onyx
Bringing a warrior in raid is purely to buff other melees atp
Except arms on paladins
vague stump
even on paladins if seems like I am still a raid buff lol
undone flower
I might rly go back to propose my ww monk for beloren even after belo nerf if it’s that bad
vague stump
tbh I am looking forward to bringing my puzzle box out of retirement for belo
unreal onyx
i mean not after this reset
I'm just waiting to see quite literally every other class get buffed after like 3 weeks so that warr is back on the bottom
vague stump
anyone know if the new outlaw bluepost reverting a few of the changes is still a net nerf?
or is it pretty equal now?
unreal onyx
timid tide
Guys in the US got the buffs already?
sullen dove
reset is in 6 and a half hours
heavy ether
tender saffron
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mGcJ6V91DpATNwbL?fight=27&type=summary&source=166 So whats up with the stat priority if this guy is #1 Vorasius?
it looks like he has a deliberately even split of Haste/Mast/Crit even using a pvp neck piece to get big mastery. I suppose keeping them mostly even with haste/mast in the lead is what we are looking for?
honest trail
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mGcJ6V91DpATNwbL?fight=27&type=summary&sour...
Padding
(adds dmg)
That's more impactful than stats
tender saffron
i'll look at few more
tulip mirage
is rampaging ruin just a sim bait on ST? since i only lose 143 dps from it and gain like 33.8k AoE?
like does it just sim that u never use WW for filler?
undone flower
You do use ww in st as filler
tulip mirage
thats what im asking if it actually does sim
honest trail
You do use ww in st as filler
Could use Rend as filler in ST, even if we don't need to refresh the bleed, as the initial hit does more dmg than WW
undone flower
Well in your sim it might have pressed ww 1-2 times so the next rampage had its dmg halved
Basically
Rampaging ruin is good if you have lot of targets, it’s just you can lose a lot if you don’t + prio dmg
tulip mirage
yea its just for Pit its annoying when the 1 health targets can soak some of ur capped dmg
honest trail
RR is big bait even with high targets number
Just let specs with funnel use them
Overall is not everything
undone flower
RR is not bait with high target numbers
It’s just ass to play a full dungeon with it
Since you need to use a macro to not scam your st
honest trail
Even if it's good for half the key, it's not worth having it for the whole time
But then again we're talking like Fury's even taken in keys
slate light
just sign as arms and swap right before key is started ez
honest trail
Nah I'm not doing that
Just need to play with people who have some critical thinking
& not meta slaves
They're rare but exist
tulip mirage
yea i aint playing arms tried and i wanted to exit game half way in the key
vague stump
RR is not bait with high target numbers
ruin is deffo bait. I have tried and tested multiple times in keys like seat and pit and I can't make it worth while playing ever over normal slayer
and I wouldn't say I am a bad M+ resi 19
legit doesn't work at all
honest trail
I do plays Arms Slayer on my alt & it's fine but why would I play it when fury is just much more enjoyable
shrug
undone flower
ruin is deffo bait. I have tried and tested multiple times in keys like seat and...
It is very tank dependent, and it makes almost half of every dungeons bad
Like seat second boss
honest trail
Which is our best boss usually as Thane
undone flower
You can’t play RR bc this boss
honest trail
Perma interrupting too
tulip mirage
i was only thinking about RR for pit since the 1 hp mobs can soak 1 of ur 5 targets dmg its no big deal bois
honest trail
Big dmg
undone flower
Or take adds with it
terse ether
Which is our best boss usually as Thane
Dragons
terse ether
Ah lol
vague stump
ruin only actvates if you use improved ww so when I tested I legit never pressed ww unless I was in a pack its just bad design talent overall you gain very little and lose alot of prio target damage
terse ether
mb
vague stump
bosses are awful unless you run cancel aura rampage 2nd button
honest trail
Nw
undone flower
ruin only actvates if you use improved ww so when I tested I legit never pressed...
Yeah so if you are in a 2-5t scenario it is just a dps downgrade
Like seat second boss, you will do awful dmg
vague stump
I hope slayer is somewhat viable again tomorrow
terse ether
We were talking about keys
For me either 3rd boss MT ( the jellyfish one ) or the duo in spire?
vague stump
there isn't a fury boss this tier unless its pure single target
undone flower
Yeah jellyfish from magister might be the best thane dungeon boss
vague stump
anything w any type of funnel arms is just better
end boss on skyreach the bird doing the phenoix on skyreach
vague stump
fury is definitely fine I mean noxiv and yuki make it work in 20-21s so its doable for sure
honest trail
Was there any builds or simming updates for tomorrow?
honest trail
fury is definitely fine I mean noxiv and yuki make it work in 20-21s so its doab...
Just very comp dependent shrugs
But skill does matter more
obtuse karma
i think we going to close the gap a bit
Not even close
terse ether
I said a bit mate 😄
strange vortex
idk bro, I just came to terms that I'm just a guy with the raid buff since our tanks dont play warrior
vague stump
or maybe it was like 22% or something but it was VERY behind col in aoe
honest trail
Thing is most people would agree that skill does matter more, but when pugging, one can't judge individual skill in advance. The only thing one can judge people off is rating & spec: so the higher rating & the most mathematically powerful class one takes, they are more likely to time keys in the long run. Cause at the same skill level, raw numbers matter.
It's kind of a bad loop to be in. Need a team
🙁
undone flower
My tanks play prot war and I’m still in 
strange vortex
massive
honest trail
My tanks play prot war and I’m still in <:purpleface:1115871627750682664>
But you're not even 3k5 yet, who cares
👀
(joking)
strange vortex
We killed paladins yesterday, I went in as fury. Did 50th rank as fury on them. I'm too old to be good. My mage did average parses, 1600 out of 3500. Bruv had 30k more dps than me. The gap is truly not closing with the 6%
undone flower
You forgot I don’t give a shit about m+ after 3 weeks
strange vortex
shame
honest trail
I wanted to use his paladins logs to tell my RL to let me play Fury on Vanguard
undone flower
I did 1 but it was heroic first week so who cares
honest trail
The 200k dps on Mythic Vanguard
I saw the replay
Cause Colossus Arms is so trash & makes me want to quit the game
undone flower
I did 85 on that clip (bc I die in the clip )
strange vortex
I tried arms, died twice while channeling demolish
honest trail
I did 85 on that clip (bc I die in the clip )
Ye I remember you died at the end
strange vortex
I was like nah bruv, that 20-30k dps difference is just not worth it
honest trail
If I'm not switching to meta spec for each boss on my class
I'm just being benched
Which is not the best experience
strange vortex
gamer
undone flower
I could do 160+ as fury but why
honest trail
I could do 160+ as fury but why
I saw you do 200k as fury wat
undone flower
R1 fury for blue col result
undone flower
I saw you do 200k as fury wat
On paladins ? I did only 1 pull as fury, I doubt you saw it
honest trail
On paladins ? I did only 1 pull as fury, I doubt you saw it
The dps meter had fury icon & you were 1st dps with 200k
Visual bug?
vague stump
kinda says it all really when noxiv does 172k and mere fucking mid 80 parcer does 175
arms compared to fury that is on paladins
vague stump
thats deffo arms logo 🤔
undone flower
It might have been the only pull I did as fury
undone flower
I only killed it once, as arms
undone flower
Like saladbar I killed it only once (and I died)
terse ether
guys, arms on this fight is damage without reason
honest trail
Who the fck is that then
terse ether
u dont even need to care if u doing rotation good
honest trail
But Arms is boring af
terse ether
I know because I killed it yesterday and I fucking hate colossus
my biggest issue is im playing WoW on a 5years old PC
im constantly on 40fps during bl:D
undone flower
it is one of my small issue too
vague stump
what u mean you dont have to worry about rotation doing good
like there is alot more to arms than fury lol?
undone flower
kinda yes
vague stump
keeping rend on all the time, sweeping strikes uptime
honest trail
Arms is harder than Fury
vague stump
like fury just press clap 4 globals clap
vague stump
if your bad at arms your doing piss all dmage like literally none lol
undone flower
Not rly if you just press cd on cd and cleave…
terse ether
i did 178k
undone flower
You do more than fury in AoE
honest trail
I'm trash at Col but it's stupidly morre dmg than Fury on Vanguard
terse ether
yes
vague stump
I mean sure if you dont overlap sweeps and smash then I can see it but if you legit send everything on cd all the time
your sweep uptime is going to be very little
honest trail
That's not playing the game
slate light
Bro i was put on 5th healer duty, from war on paladins xd? i was blasting as resto druid tough, we almost killed aleria yesterday, and now they are nerfing it feels bad man
terse ether
sacrifices myst be made
undone flower
Sweeping / smash not adding up is kinda ass
honest trail
Sweeping / smash not adding up is kinda ass
True
terse ether
Yes
vague stump
like if you have only ever played fury and you go into that fight playing arms and send everything on cd all the time I think youll do more dmg as fury
undone flower
You do
terse ether
yes
drowsy heron
not after tomorrow i think
undone flower
Bc I did
drowsy heron
also depends on your gear
terse ether
lol
drowsy heron
if youre geared for Fury than Arms isnt going to do more
terse ether
that';s not true
undone flower
In the clip I literally demolish without anything else
vague stump
yeah thats also a big thing as arms loves crit and if ur optimal fury gear your only running 20-25% crit not 45%
undone flower
I have crafted 285 haste mastery neck as fury and pit neck 276 as arms
terse ether
same
I was playing -1 embelishment as well 😄
I have the hunt but for arms bot is tgelling me to use the PoS weapon
vague stump
yeah pit is BIS for arms
the bot really likes crit until you hit about 45% then will fall off
terse ether
he asked arms thought 😄
undone flower
I need to log in
vague stump
na I mean you use the same 2h?
undone flower
Yes I only have 1 myth weapon
I can send stats I had on paladins but it was 2 weeks ago
vague stump
undone flower
I play arms with : my fury gear, just I switch my neck to pit neck and remove my crafted off hand
terse ether
fury :
arms :
for me
i dont know what to do embelishment wise though\
that way im losing 1
undone flower
I play arms with only 1 embellish
terse ether
y i think
cinder viper
yea next reset
vague stump
y stats arent bad. I think its playable but deffo not optimal for sure, I think before I recafted my bracers and 2h (I have the MT 2h for fury on myth which sims 1% worse for arms than my crafted 2h w crit haste) I am pretty sure it was 2% more to recraft bracers and weap
cinder viper
weeks time from now pre much
undone flower
It is playable it’s not stat diff that will make arms not bad on paladins
I was literally gonna kill the boss at 200k dps
vague stump
oh for sure no better thats will make fury better I was just making the point that like if you don't know arms or haven't ever played it like you will 100% do worse if you just switch for 1 fight of paladins because your RL or whatever says you have to play arms lol
undone flower
I never played arms before
It is the first raid boss I do as arms
100% suggest it but fun is more important
Don’t arms if you don’t like arms
cinder viper
what if i like legs?
vague stump
you playing imrpoved sweeping on paladins happy? or powerful?
vague stump
like idk so when I switched from fury to arms around 2 weeks or whatever into the season. the hardest thing to work out for arms was the sweeping strikes stuff its so big and so easy to completely overlap your sweeping strikes w smash which is why I say its alot easier if you know fury and don't play arms its easier to just stay fury as you will perform better if you dont get the whole sweeping strikes thing
undone flower
Yeah I had issues the first pulls
But I ended up pressing sweeping at around 15-20sec smash cd remaining no matter my stacks
timid tide
Why do we always talk about arms in fury? 😆
undone flower
It is fury players talking about arms
vague stump
I know for me at least yesterday my sweeps were like omega desynced because of boss positioning from tanks and only being able to hit 1 boss or whatever just alot goes into it I feel but I guess it is easy enough to pick up if you actually want to try
where as w fury its alot easier to manage cleve w improved ww
undone flower
I know for me at least yesterday my sweeps were like omega desynced because of b...
Just press sweeping when 15-20 sec until next smash even if you still have stacks
terse ether
you overthinking it
undone flower
If you try to use all stacks to press it again it will always desync
warm crag
Why do we always talk about arms in fury? 😆
warrior has two dps specs which are vaguely the same thing every relevant player knows both and treats them the same
terse ether
just SS on CD unless wb is 5s away or something like that
warm crag
I know for me at least yesterday my sweeps were like omega desynced because of b...
im confused how you're struggling with the cadence it literally is as easy as wb -> press buttons until sweep runs out -> sweep -> press buttons until sweep runs out -> repeat
if they desync it means you didnt press buttons
vague stump
im confused how you're struggling with the cadence it literally is as easy as wb...
the issue is when you don't have 2t to spend sweeps on
warm crag
what context is this about
sudden tusk
you can in game add sound effects for when you lose Sweeping charges as well
terse ether
that can't happen
vague stump
were talking about paladins fight
terse ether
paladins is more a 2t fight than a 3
warm crag
what the fuck are you doing to be single targetting on paladins
undone flower
you can in game add sound effects for when you lose Sweeping charges as well
Here it’s more he doesn’t spend all and desync the combo cs - ss
warm crag
are you like leaping into the guy consecrating and hitting them exclusively
slim coral
if you're using wb and ss after you shouldnt really run out of sweeps
warm crag
that goes really hard
slim coral
36 abilites is morethan enough time for wb to come back up
sudden tusk
the only actual issue with arms on paladins
is a single bad CS can fuck you the rest of the fight
slim coral
just play thane ngl
indigo arch
wonder how many fights become slayer come tues
vague stump
na for example yesterday our tanks were really struggling to sync up bosses after elephant charge
warm crag
do not play thane 🗣️
indigo arch
all but paladins?
slim coral
do not play thane 🗣️
nah fuck it send it
warm crag
na for example yesterday our tanks were really struggling to sync up bosses afte...
this isnt an arms issue this is a tanks can't stack together issue
sudden tusk
im gonna play thane on paladins just to steal rank 1 for fun
terse ether
fuck thane, fuck colossus
vague stump
and also in healer soaks where I was on only 1 boss
indigo arch
this late in season I'd almost wager that much slayer buff= slayer fury into like every fight
slim coral
unless youre' parsing a 100 on arms playing thane is fine
sudden tusk
i mean HoF isnt even closed yet i wouldnt say the season is late rn
slate light
okay question, why is there 57 in peoples names
slim coral
i mean HoF isnt even closed yet i wouldnt say the season is late rn
the 200th guild is at p2
sudden tusk
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warm crag
do your tanks not know how to move bosses genuine question
slim coral
its looking like it will close in about 2 weeks
sudden tusk
whats probably gonna happen
warm crag
you should have like 70% uptime on 3 and 95% uptime on 2 bosses on that boss (numbers pulled out of my ass)
sudden tusk
is they nerf the boss
slim coral
okay question, why is there 57 in peoples names
its an ongoing april fools bit
sudden tusk
and there is a mad dash to get HoF at the end
undone flower
2 weeks it will blow up with ilvl upgrade
sudden tusk
and if you dont have 300 pulls into it at least before that week starts
vague stump
you should have like 70% uptime on 3 and 95% uptime on 2 bosses on that boss (nu...
yeah no my tanks arent good