fury

[honest trail]

Shouldn't happen tho

[shut pivot]

Talking mythic on hc i dont even bother

[fringe citrus]

98 on chim is simple

[lyric panther]

I thought chime = wind chime

[honest trail]

I compared some of my pug vs guild Chim parses & I just parse better in pug cause I can steal more dmg from others

xd

I only care about boss dmg parses this season

[median marsh]

i just saw the buffs for fury, how does it effect build / rotation?
or no changes at all just bigger numbers?

[honest trail]

Should just be bigger numbers

[astral ice]

Archi will update us, if something will change rotationwise

[digital mauve]

So fury slayer will be the play for both m+ and raid ?

[chilly zodiac]

looks like big buffs, i like it

and they finally took a stick to unholy, W

[median marsh]

In Archi we trust

[subtle lagoon]

Demo not touched

[soft cypress]

hey guys, ive got a very serious question... tauren or orc?

[dusk harbor]

Gnom-Worgen Aka Vulpera XD

[coral yarrow]

Worgen!

[soft cypress]

Worgen actually very interesting

[dark wolf]

How much more important is mh 2h than oh 2h? I only have 1 hero and 1 champ weapon.

[fickle vector]

if i go for gaze using my bonus roll, should i set my loot spec to Prot for higher chance of dropping?

[digital mauve]

Good question

[thorny zenith]

Is wrecking throw #1 prio for shielded targets?

[inner zinc]

You probably wanna be enraged before doing wrecking

[hollow maple]

is there a big gap between fury slayer and fury thane atm? Like not "after buffs" but in its current state

for m+

[undone flower]

Yes AoE is where slayer fall off compared to thane

[timid tide]

I don't see slayer doing better in raids for the run of the mill players.

[ornate gust]

is there an addon that call Reflect similar to the old WA?

[undone flower]

Yeah but it will probably better on Lura, alleria and vorasius

[timid tide]

I honestly don't bother changing spec for heroic raiding

[soft flicker]

yes you should, it eliminates the shit trinket from dropping

[tawny turtle]

Late to the party here but with warrior buffs tuesday any chance that slayer/rb build will be viable again

[timber girder]

thane will be still go to after buffs to slayer in m+?

[hollow maple]

also, will fury thane be closer to arms colo after teusday

[fickle vector]

TY for the hot tip confirmation

[coarse nest]

+1 worgen

I’ve been debating that one myself

[past flax]

Yes

[sweet palm]

Worgen, the times that speed active saved my ass is out of bounds.

[timid tide]

Who knows? We'll have to wait and see.

[modest condor]

i think it may be a question of do you need more boss damage or more trash damage which one you choose

it could also be that, because sims are only an approximation, there are things it's not properly taking into account that would make one spec better in action than the other compared to sims

[past flax]

Typically the spec you feel more comfortable playing with and you’re better at will provide more consistent damage since they’re both looking close to each other

[stoic loom]

ofc it will be closer, one is getting buffed and the other isnt

will it be close tho? no

[timid tide]

I'm intrigued by the ground current 50% increased dmg. It procs from Execute, RB and Clap

[modest condor]

and it does 1% of your damage

1.5% after the buff

[timid tide]

Well, in my last 16 npx run it did more than execute and rb

[hidden forge]

Got a question, should i craft another weapon or is this Myth one better? I am asking cuz i don't have a guild and don't think will do Myth Raid with pugs so my chance to get Bellamy Judgement are low, what would be the best move here ?

[lavish pecan]

[sullen dove]

i mean that myth weapon is literally like a +/-5 stat difference to bellamy weapon if you just like... look at it and compare the stats

so one can only assume its just about the exact same thing as myth bellamy so yes its good

crafting another weapon would be quite silly

[languid gate]

anyone got sims for post buff?

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-growth-muscles-muscle-man-huge-muscles-big-muscles-gif-2347374479458281370

[random shadow]

Myth weapons almost always better. Espically with the forge coming. Also you can judt bonus roll 10s for myth weapon

[bitter palm]

me about to hop on slayer fury and play full st in raid

[coarse nest]

omega boss damager

[bitter palm]

3 trillion dmg incoming

[smoky crescent]

hello, Im new to warrior and its my first season pushing for m+ and raiding, I started with Unholy watched and learned through several videos and have been able to parse for up to 90 but Im having a lot of trouble learning warrior, my gear is pretty decent except for gaze and prism being champ tier but im still gray, green parsing. Is there any videos or guides yall recommend so I can learn from?

[olive wraith]

Wowhead is the guide

Critcake usually has boss kill videos

Or post a log in #1347646810457636974

[smoky crescent]

ill take a look, ill log some time today and post it in there thank you for the help

[fleet garden]

No joke, just buff execute and let us be gods at 35% if they don't want to uncap us

[echo rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/mac-looking-gif-19010566

me looking for all the great ST talents to swap into

[hidden forge]

Back again, with another question, don't think it's only a visual bug but on my War it happens a lot to get stuck, like my character get's stuck in the Execute animation right before finishing the hit and i can't deal damage, i can press my abiliityes but for a few seconds i get stuck in the same position while attaking and can't deal damage, can't find anything online, is there a known issue ?

[olive wraith]

So it’s not just a stuck animation?

[hidden forge]

not sure, i can press my abilityes and they get on cooldown

but can;t see any dmg popping up

i assume i don't deal dmg

[proud vessel]

Will Fury come ahead of Arms with the new buffs in M+?

[thick finch]

no

[olive wraith]

Is your damage meter dropping in these cases?

[warm crag]

do you have a video?

[flat river]

what talents

we dont have

we have one build

thats it

[junior oyster]

Happens a lot to me again now. Started up again since my haste climbed up. My dude gets stuck for a few seconds with his arms hanging low like an ape. He still does damage tho, you just dont see the swings

[warm crag]

do you have a video

or can you record a short one

[junior oyster]

oops, meant to reply duder

[warm crag]

your description is very vague and its easier to figure out what yoru real issue is when we see whats happening

are you a male orc by chance?

[junior oyster]

So far as I can see it's a purely visual bug (male tauren). Sounds like what Alin's experiencing

[warm crag]

oh you're not the same guy my bad

only vfx/sfx bug im aware of is that male orcs are fucked rn

[junior oyster]

My tauren's had this issue since prepatch T^T

But what I noticed is that it might be haste related. When my haste was in the dirt, it never happened

[smoky vale]

@warm crag when raid

[warm crag]

do you habitually use any toys or macro any toys to your abiltiies

[warm crag]

im still benched

[smoky vale]

i wanna support schmidi and xeph and toph though

also

[radiant plank]

Come support my despair

[smoky vale]

i timed 3 20s yday

after making no progress for a week

[radiant plank]

gg

resil 20 soon

[echo rapids]

That was the joke

[hidden forge]

Sorry for late reply,, was in a dungeon, yea, don't have a video, didn't have Nvidia on but here is what i could find online. It looks like it's a known issue

Even tho that link to forum is not really related to the same thing, as long as i deal the dmg i don't see an issue but i can't be 100% sure tbh

Only got a macro for Avatar and Rek to get them at the same time, other then that no Macro, Toy, nothing, might be cuz of Haste increas from Frenzied Enrage

[olive wraith]

Ya stuck animations have been a thing for a minute

You should be fine on damage

[stoic loom]

anyone know how i turn these arrows off?

randomly turned on between keys now

mobs are glowing too lol

[modest condor]

do a higher key, that's the low key affix blizzard put in to help new tanks so they dont have to make their own routes

[stoic loom]

this was a +18

lol

[modest condor]

sounds like something bugged then

[undone flower]

Tank can activate it

[modest condor]

wait really

[undone flower]

And it’s turned on whatever the key lvl

[covert blaze]

tanks can have that on or off

[undone flower]

Only the visual thing, you don’t get the bonus dmg

[modest hollow]

Do i wait for 2 tb stacks before sending it?

[sullen dove]

on st sometimes yes on aoe no just send whenever its up or you need to reapp ww stacks basically

[frozen scarab]

at what level did u guys stop pugging keys

bc i lowkey cant even get into a 14 😭

[frank dawn]

if you want to get into a high key maybe you should not be lowkey

[uneven path]

Hell yeh

[undone flower]

G G

[nocturne oyster]

Hell y ea!

[coarse nest]

[teal slate]

It's a struggle I'm working on resil 18s 😂

[odd agate]

Its been rough but I've pugged up until 19's. Almost impossible to get into keys now though

[rotund ginkgo]

basedge

[icy whale]

could fury compete with arms at mythic vanguard next week?

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/hydrogen-bomb-vs-baby-gif-16389939655051520745

[icy whale]

[fleet yarrow]

why is this considered BIS?

next to the one from march

[frozen scarab]

its a +10 WHO is my party lead waiting for man

[undone flower]

Bc the one from march gives 1 gazillion haste I suppose

[fleet yarrow]

Like ig im happy that I for funsied rerolled on academy and got it

Im just confused tha6t its apparently BIS

*which is a lie, different sites tell me different things

[radiant plank]

almost as if

bis lists are fake

[undone flower]

^

The nexus ring set is the best for my char until i kill Lura (my goal is to kill Lura)

[fleet yarrow]

hmmm

nah cant be

must be something else

[hollow forge]

The ring is bis for that specific gear combo

[vague owl]

How big is the fury slayer buff? And is it worth going slayer for m+?

[flat river]

You always pick slayer in keys wdym

[frank dawn]

Thane is likely still stronger in general, but Slayer will be fine if you enjoy playing it. It's about a 10% buff in M+

[vague owl]

Hasnt Thane been pogging out a lot atm?

[flat river]

The spin itself from bladestorm gives a 78.64% buff due to how awesome you look

[vague owl]

LOL x3

Meant more numbers wise.

[frozen scarab]

are we supposed to upgrade voidforge our crafted weapon

[frank dawn]

that's not unlocked yet, but you will certainly want to upgrade both your weapons once you can

[indigo arch]

4k rated lightup rgb gamer buttplug players only for 10s

[coarse nest]

When I host a +10 weekly I always wait for a monk/shaman/druid to optimize my own damage for the fun of it maybe they’re doing the same

[runic pine]

Anyone wanna tell my silly poopoo stupid head self which dungeon to send rolls on for fury?

[indigo arch]

Do you already have a mythic alnseer and heart?

[coarse nest]

I’d roll for npx** rings probably

[warm crag]

here you go again with your "advice"

[runic pine]

nah this is a rat second warrior that is like 240

I mean look at this absolute specimen truly going to be a pumper

[coarse nest]

Oh so you need all loot

[radiant plank]

magisters is solid

no joke

[warm crag]

could be seat or nexus until you can pug myth chim

[tiny seal]

next week its slyer for st raid again right?

since the buffs are kinda ok

[coarse nest]

Nexus is a solid roll place

[runic pine]

huge gains to be had

[coarse nest]

Can cata the items that are not rings

Wait you said fury

[indigo arch]

mgt/nexus/seat

idk if I'd burn rolls that low ilvl though

Rather prey-delve-lfg out a 4pc and see where gear lands

mgt would= potential good weapon to pair with crafted, and can cata gear, also a good ring

[runic pine]

I mean you're chasing items anyways from keys if you're rolling, the lower the ilvl the less waste you have if you don't get the "good" item

[indigo arch]

seat= belt/glove

[runic pine]

I doubt I'll be doing much in terms of raids on this character this season

[indigo arch]

nexus= ring set/cata pieces

[runic pine]

just prepping it for next season and maybe maybe try pushing on it as prot

[indigo arch]

Would probably mgt for the big weapon maybe idk

[earnest tiger]

Yep, tbh it’s way better value bonus rolling seat at low ilvl compared to later, hopefully you get gloves but at least you can use most of the rest of the bloated loot pool anyways

[runic pine]

idk seat seems low value

if it didn't have those rings

or neck

I'd do it

[sudden tusk]

for fury you are probably looking at nexus point. and pit of saron maybe

[runic pine]

MGT honestly seems like the best

[sudden tusk]

got some good stuff in there

ring/wep

[sullen tendon]

saron gear is all crit haste

except for like 2 pieces

[radiant plank]

yeah

get you to play arms

[sullen tendon]

best thing in dungeons to spend rollson are likely the nexus point rings and the cloak from skyreach

[ionic umbra]

any chance fury gonna play slayer in m+ next reset?

[modest condor]

maybe for boss damage in dungeons where you cant bring funnel to bosses

[sudden tusk]

i think thanes gonna be the play for high keys. arms should be good for high keys still

so itll be a preferance thing

[uneven path]

Doing slayer on Myth Paladins, xdd man that thing is so dogshit

[sour pollen]

do u still have rend apply from clap if u remove this in spec

[uneven path]

no

[languid willow]

No

[sour pollen]

ok i tried to get more healing for mplus

[languid willow]

Just drop the enhanced shockwave

And go bandage

[sour pollen]

wich one

[wheat lantern]

depending on dungeon like nexus , id take fearless to remove the dot , goated choice

[languid willow]

If your group is very solid on cc you can drop stormbolt and go leeching strikes as well

[sour pollen]

nah i rather keep 2 stuns

[languid willow]

The one under shockwave, remove that and take the one under pain and gain

[river willow]

You think the buffs make thane fury competitive with colossus? Surely it’s a bit less aoe still but much higher ST

[wheat lantern]

thane for life either way

[sudden tusk]

colossus will have a very strong advantage in mass aoe

[wheat lantern]

other specs feel like dooky

[sudden tusk]

however thanes single target is gonna kinda blow it out of the water

[languid willow]

It’s called field dressing

[modest condor]

drop piercing howl and put the point in fearless instead

[wheat lantern]

^^

fearless so good

[languid willow]

This is what I run 98% of the time

[smoky vale]

the bandage thing is fake af

[dense elbow]

I like inti shout for another stop for the when I chain stop a bolter

[languid willow]

What would you take over field dressing then ?

Fast footwork

[undone flower]

I run leech + better shockwave, it is my stormbolt

[wheat lantern]

like he said prob inti shout for clutch cc if needed

stun DR happens way to fast

[sour pollen]

idk

getting 15 sec reduced cooldown on shockwave is also good

healer gonna have to do a better job i guess lol

[wheat lantern]

improv shockwave is dooky , i only like it when the affix is up for the balls because everyone is brain dead to get them

[languid willow]

Idk ima keep it on until I think anything else is worth it

[wheat lantern]

nice 10 orb affix slammer shockwave is dopamine

[languid willow]

I guess I’d just drop field dressing for leeching strikes

In my head 3 % increased leech didn’t equate to 3% increased healing but I’ll try it out

[modest condor]

no it's a lot more than 3% increased healing

[dense elbow]

3% healing from any source, healers healing you, so on. Then 10% from your own sources (that also gains the OG 3%)

innit?

[rotund ginkgo]

coughing bomb vs hydrogen baby

[smoky vale]

its fine bc they nerfed drs

[fleet yarrow]

Idk feels like

I can compete on dmg on 5 targets with other specs

[smoky vale]

id take fear

[fleet yarrow]

but the moment its anything more everything proceeds to turbo gap me

[wheat lantern]

wait till tuesday , itll change

[rotund ginkgo]

@radiant plank

[dense elbow]

1-4t, they gap me, 5-6 I can compete if I squint my eyes and ignore the facts, 7+ I just dont press buttons and wait for it to be over

[fleet yarrow]

duo bosses legit make me cry

with how pathetic slayer 2 target dmg is

3 targets tho, now we talking

[radiant plank]

new tattoo idea

[supple lotus]

Course cause you need 3 targets for reap

[fleet yarrow]

that shit just feels awful

[spare flame]

I have an idea, for every missing target on meat cleaver, the remaining targets take extra dmg 🤑

[dense elbow]

So if there is only 1 target, you gain 65% more dam?

[supple lotus]

Just play thane

[spare flame]

[fleet yarrow]

Why would I play the inferior option?

I wanna bladestorm, and I will bladestorm now

https://tenor.com/view/wow-bladestorm-angineer-вертушка-блейдсторм-gif-27549194

[dense elbow]

=
=

[rugged cedar]

Hate bladestorm. Love thane. Love slayer except for bladestorm. Hate colossus st and lack of rage for execute. Blizzard why

Everything but thane just feels very undercooked

[willow cradle]

Bladestorm CDR feels all over the place

[rugged cedar]

Yes

And like when is ravager in colossus? When the moon alights with Jupiter or some shit

[teal slate]

i mean im pushing resil 18s as a slayer fury and ive been enjoying it. and my overall is about the same as thane

[rugged cedar]

I’m not talking about numbers here. I mean how cds align. In terms of numbers, st is desperately bad on both

[dense elbow]

Slayer seem to have CDs for each pull, usually get two storms a go. Reck and BS syncs alright, if you dont have the worst of luck

Good thing ST gets some help soon. Tho, I am a bit worried that the proc value added will make it a bit feast or famine

[teal slate]

im just a smidge behind our demo lock on st usually 85-90k st and hes 105ish our overall makes me feel bad but tuesday will fix that

[junior gale]

Slayer is fixed by removing CDR from slayer tree and just adding BS back to AM

[dense elbow]

The effect can work like AM, sure. But adding it to AM might swing it so that Thane suddenly becomes like Slayer was, taking avatar over BS because of tuning.

Better keep the CDR locked behind the talent tree.

Would be neat if they both synced at all time, yet it isnt really necessary. You usually will get your BS a bit ahead of reck and you wait, or you send reck and BS comes up inside the reck window

It is quite rare during gameplay to feel that reck and BS gets totally desynced and you got to fix it by holding either or for long.

(tho sometimes I swear, BS just refuses to get any CDR value )

[junior gale]

I haven't kept up much with fury but ain't no way Thane is taking bladestorm over Avatar just because bladstorm is on a.m.

[dense elbow]

People would say the same about BS vs Avatar atm, things change. Just avoid the issue all together

[supple glen]

people hate thane bc they have to actually press buttons to do damage

[junior gale]

That was just a completely different situation though

[dense elbow]

[wheat lantern]

meanwhile i love thane buttons to do damage

[dense elbow]

Slayer buttons soon do good dam

[wheat lantern]

slayer residentsleeper

[dense elbow]

SD value is going up through the roof

[supple glen]

idk, it feels like bstorm is never up when i want it to

but thane delivers

[compact siren]

@oblique trail fury?

[rugged cedar]

Will they?

[supple glen]

no, just the passive proc

[dense elbow]

SD got a lot of impact on it atm

BS could get another 20% bump, sure. Yet, it currently does increase your DPS when you press it and is big dam up

[fast sigil]

Which would you recommend taking, slayer or thane? You've already made me doubt myself for a mythic raid

[pliant obsidian]

depends on boss

[dense elbow]

I would recommend checking lorrgs, and see what ppl are doing on a boss to boss basis

[pliant obsidian]

agreed

[dense elbow]

You can honestly play either or tho

if you feel more comfortable playing Thane, play Thane. Prefer Slayer, do Slayer.

[strange drift]

im lazy and ran strictly thane becouse idgaf about changing talents but i suppose u can do either reall

[fast mural]

is fury gonna be better St after reset

i just dont know anymore

[strange drift]

(heroic) on mythic i suggest thane for imperator/saladbar/dragons/vang slayer vorasious/crown/luura(?)/beloren

[dense elbow]

Why would it not?

[fast mural]

would you go fury on beloren next week ?

[strange drift]

#updates-midnight

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[dense elbow]

No, I would be benched

[fast mural]

so you are saying sim dps is real dps

[strange drift]

also this im benched almost whole voidspire prog

fury life is awesome

[fast mural]

we dont have a warrior tank so im good

[dense elbow]

Saved

[fast mural]

but playing arms on cosmos this week felt like trolling cause of the bugfix

[dense elbow]

Well, the bird is all about bursting down the egg, so guess Arms Demolish is your best thing to do

[fast mural]

no one is playing col on birb

[dense elbow]

Noone?

but demolish goes slap slap SLAP

[pliant obsidian]

real dps is your actual dps on the boss etc then look at logs rotation and boss uptime or ask pepechan lol

[fast mural]

logs arent realy helping cause you can filter for egg dmg specifically

boss dmg counts for boss dmg throughout the entire fight

[dense elbow]

Arms burst as Slayer seems kinda weak, if you compare it to other specs

did peak 300k tho, same as the other one, must be said

[pliant obsidian]

i look at how much time i am on the boss which means using def etc

[fast mural]

fury doesnt look better tbh

[dense elbow]

Nah, Fury looks better cause there aint anything to look for

[fast mural]

nah fury on the 2nd egg burn is horrendous

[dense elbow]

Lies, we got OF, big burst dam

[fast mural]

im just staying arms looks like its better on lura

[dense elbow]

I mean, I doubt that the 5% aurabuff diff between Slayer Arms and Fury will make up for the lead arms already is shown to have

So... go Fury, get that 100

If you go as Slayer, you are guarenteed a 100 or 0 atm

do it

[modest condor]

that's a crazy damage graph for fury damn

[dense elbow]

yarp

[fast mural]

and people say fury dmg curve is flat

[dense elbow]

Doing 400k burst tho, prob is more value, than doing 200k over and over

I dont know that fight at all, maybe you need consistent smaller windows, than the giga blow up ones

[fast mural]

what boss is that graph from

[dense elbow]

bird

[fast mural]

looks like add burst

[modest condor]

ok that explains something at least

3 target cleave

[fast mural]

padding andy

[dense elbow]

I am just happy, soon my gonna do bigger dam

[fast mural]

bird needs a new filter for "egg dmg"

[dense elbow]

All is right with the world

[pliant obsidian]

lol

[fast mural]

execute and reap

remember when they wanted to remove ST reap

[dense elbow]

SD gonna pop off now, frfr

[visual vale]

Need advice for Averzian and chimaerus mythic, did first kill today but logs are awful

good logs tied to adds?

[dense elbow]

yep

Chim is all about add pad

[fast mural]

averzian ?

[dense elbow]

I can confirm that

[fast mural]

is that the tix tac toe boss?

[visual vale]

1st boss in spire

[fast mural]

its all pad

[pliant obsidian]

logs will get better with more exposure etc and grats

[visual vale]

adds die in a millisecond

[fast mural]

if you have people deleting adds and you are not the one doing it you are screwed

[visual vale]

except fat one(he dies in 2 seconds)

[dense elbow]

If you want good logs on Chim, go Slayer, BS adds

gg ez

[fast mural]

the only thing you can do is go full ST and parse boss dmg

[drowsy heron]

GIVE ME RB SLAYER BACK

[visual vale]

i mean, there is people in thane with good logs on chim

Also i dont smack adds al lthe time, im in 1-3 group, so I aoe adds in otherworld, then I go back to real world and adds are on other side

[fast mural]

next xpac they gonna go back to rb dont worry

now rb is in the same place BT was

[visual vale]

sry if I worded it poorly

[fast mural]

and they gonna try making it worth pressing again

[visual vale]

other side i mean side where 2-4 group chillin

and usually i only can cleave big add a little

[dense elbow]

You can go Thane, but it is a bit late in the season. Adds blow up. The only thing you can do is snipe as much as you can with BS+OF

Or you can just pad pure boss dam

Then only boss dam matters

[fast mural]

intermission might be the biggest value for pad now

at least for melee

[fast mural]

cause my guild has the circle people in the same line adds move so melees usually dont go there

[dense elbow]

Nah, adds

[visual vale]

ended with 96k dps on chim, i guess its really low

[fast mural]

i did less on reclears

[fast sigil]

A slayer would then be better than a thane? :o.o

[fast mural]

my best parse came week 1 myth cause thats where add pad was real

[dense elbow]

No idea if it is better, but it is for sure easier

[pliant obsidian]

fury imo opens up in mid s2 to s3 until then go tank lol

[fast mural]

more ilvl is bad confirmed

[dense elbow]

need more ilvl

[fast mural]

*less

[dense elbow]

hmm, seems like once you go over 281

you rot

gotta go down 1

[sudden tusk]

funkykitty BLOW UP

[pliant obsidian]

very gear dependant class

[sudden tusk]

EXZPLODE POSTHASTE

(friendly explode)

YOO

that shit looks

SICK

[fast mural]

looks like a frost dk sword

[sudden tusk]

nah you dont see the vision

blue Vault of the incarnites set

[dense elbow]

looks good for a DK weap tho

[sudden tusk]

with that wep

[dense elbow]

a neat 1hander

[fast mural]

i saw that was hyped then i saw we dont know where its from and now i think its gonna be a shop item

[olive wraith]

[dense elbow]

.... warr... wa... gea... rrior... ear... ale... war... sca... ear.... WARRIOR SCALES WITH GEAR

⚔️

[woven valley]

I mean that can’t be true, we got worse as the season has gone on kek

[coarse nest]

🔥 🔥

[sullen tendon]

eugh

arms

[sullen dove]

w

[echo scarab]

guys wtf is this

give me a reason to NOT talent out of wrecking throw for my M+ build? rather run rumbling earth

[frozen scarab]

whats the best socket for neck?

[winter shoal]

You can drop other stuff for rumbling earth

WT very good

[echo scarab]

jsut realized it works for the affix

gang shit

[sullen tendon]

damn 20s are hard as fury

[olive wraith]

What’s an affix

[sullen tendon]

gery parse pally and dk doesnt help but itemization is starting to hit hard now

[marble apex]

Is slayer going to be better than mt on m+ after buffs?

[snow edge]

#updates-midnight message

[keen kindle]

unlucky

GG go next

[dim spindle]

Funky you did it again. Positive thinking brought about our buffs

Doomers BTFO

(had to look up what that actually means because I'm old and withered)

Surely we will skyrocket the charts come Tuesday. TO THE 🌛

[dim spindle]

Because a ranged interrupt is the bees knees? Plus the fact it's a silence so a straggler caster doesn't even have to be casting to get them to move their ass. AND the shield buster is no joke

Downside is it doesn't always work on big boi elites that are immune to silence 🙁

Rumbling earth is nice but since every other spec has stuns the DR hits right quick. Stop is nice but I'd say it's not worth vs wrecking

I've been considering dropping the +radius to TC but that's also nice when you have to run out of range now and then. You can still hit when on the very edge of big circles and whatnot

Also, also, uh... landing a KB with it on a mob at 1% at range scores a whole bunch of cool points

Anyway... another 5% aura buff when? Come on, blizz

[frozen scarab]

is fallen king also a bad parse for u guys i always have sht dmg on it

[floral frigate]

saladbar mythic is a great parse fight

non mythic ya im not great on it

[echo scarab]

where am i missing that its a silence?

[snow edge]

Javelineer talent

[echo scarab]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nehuyaneponyal--k01KQR7JYG3B2WMSE7SGNFCP73R

i cant read

[sly merlin]

just onetapped bonus rolled my npx ring i needed to finish my set on myth track

we so up

[echo scarab]

W

I just back to backed bonus rolls on some crazy shit

voidclaw into whirling voidcleaver

[heavy yacht]

eyyy

i just hit 3k

[echo scarab]

GZ

[late shore]

its rough when you start lfging 16+ fury almost get auto declined.

i would swap but blizzards in game io tracker sucks and only shows your io on the spec you did it on.

[heavy yacht]

idk since playing fury i cant play anything else...everything feels slow and clunky

[late shore]

well problem is they nerfed thane badly in the last tunning patch and a lot of our damage came from thunderblast and clap. On top of out ST being ass its why we are getting declined.... 🙁

[bold bear]

? the thunderclap nerf didn't go through

[late shore]

not the 40% one of whatever but they did nerf it a bit still.

think the 40% one was for prot i think?

[heavy yacht]

ST sucks but overall i'm doing pretty good damage...like since I took time to understand rotation and prio i'm top dps most of the time

[bold bear]

I'm pretty sure that's not true

[undone flower]

Yes that’s totally fakenews

[modest condor]

the only nerf that happened to thane is the bugfix to deep wounds

[undone flower]

You can press N to verify

[young swan]

they didn't nerf anything for thane

[oblique trail]

Blow up

Explode

Disintegrated

[covert blaze]

banezi hiiiiii

[sullen tendon]

What even was it

The bug

[young swan]

just did double damage

[sullen tendon]

Oh

I thought it was like an actual bug

Unless it was double dipping from bloodborne or something

[modest condor]

every execute applied deep wounds twice instead of once

and since new applications just add their damage, that means it did double the damage

[sullen tendon]

I don’t mind bleeds moving over to fury. I’d like something similar to that but that lets you amp up your bleeds more the longer you’re in a fight.

[stoic loom]

this could be cool

by the time ure in execute the boss has a massive bleed

[sullen tendon]

It would be cool if we had a choice node ability for reckless abandon that let you spec more into bleeds and it increases the potency of bloodborne more but also adds an execute effect that randomly applies debuffs while in execute and all your bleeds are up. So like it could blind them but cutting their eyes or it could trip them by cutting their legs or make them do less damage by cutting their arms or take more damage by cutting their bodies. Playing into the wild berserker angle of fury where it’s not really about precision as much as it is about hitting fast and wild.

To kind of simulate bleeding on the body

Reck would probably still be better for st but that talent would excel at aoe.

[oblique trail]

Balls

Hello

[hybrid cargo]

raiding in slayer tonight to prep for new patch, wish me luck

timings are gonna be ass XD

[tawny sonnet]

Are training dummies a more reliable way to optimise than sims? Ive been getting better results with the dummies

Results*

[snow edge]

What do you mean optimize? Dummies are good for practicing your rotation, sims are good for deciding on gear (simplified)

[young swan]

also depends what you mean by "better results", there are all sorts of things that could be getting skewed in different directions

[keen kindle]

So what are you doing

Are you getting new pieces and testing them on dummies first?

[odd crater]

Haven’t touched a dummy once

I sim and yolo

[sullen dove]

@hallow sphinx

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[hallow sphinx]

💋

[river willow]

is the fury dream alive on tuesday in keys

[winter shoal]

Yeah if you want to

Don't have to though

[potent thicket]

Slayer fury 👀 yes plsss

[vital fractal]

So what will be better on higher keys fury or arms?

[fiery edge]

hopefully the buff will pull me back to Slury

[vital fractal]

Ngl arms seems more logical to me fury kinda messy 🤷🏼

[clever plover]

Hi guys, What do you guys think, in mythic key which will be better salyer fury or thane?

[vital fractal]

But i guess thats the charm of fury

[sullen dove]

thane

[sullen tendon]

resil 19s tomorrow then 20s

[olive wraith]

Coordinated groups doing like 20+? Maybe Colo for the funnel

[young swan]

prob wont matter

maybe colossus in organized groups like kalaiath said

[vital fractal]

Gotcha

[smoky vale]

@fleet sorrel @sudden tusk

[sudden tusk]

yippie

[surreal linden]

Fury looks like its performing better in M beloren

Wonder how it’ll be for Lura on tuesday

(Prepping because i thinkwere gonna get crown done this week with the nerfs)

[pearl sequoia]

p3 execute for lurra is pretty crazy for arms thats kinda why u bring one

[surreal linden]

Oh i see

[pearl sequoia]

buuuut the more dam people get not like it will be needed

so fury anyway

hehehoho

[fleet sorrel]

crazy stuff happening

beast mode cas

[compact knot]

looks like it hmm

its better for p1 boss damage sure

worse on the egg

[cedar crescent]

Not really, worse egg damage

[compact knot]

egg dps matters the most

[cedar crescent]

Do more add damage

Killed it yesterday as arms

[compact knot]

pretty sure arms can play a cleave funnel build and do more p1 damage and egg damage

but arms is the ethical spec

[cedar crescent]

You dont go cleave/funnel

[compact knot]

i mean

if you are parsing you will

[cedar crescent]

Don't need it, you want full ST dam

[compact knot]

i am aware

im just saying you can spec cleave and just do more p1 damage and egg damage still

xdd

the 2 cleave talents are like a 5% st loss for a pretty big funnel gain

[cedar crescent]

Technically if you really want to pad, you could colo and keep two birds on the egg.

[compact knot]

nah wont be possible

[cedar crescent]

If you REALLY want to pad

It is possible

[compact knot]

hypothetically it is

but realistically no

[cedar crescent]

You do it in second egg phase

You have two adds on egg

[compact knot]

yeah but you do no egg damage in the first burn

and then the 2nd egg you have execute

as slayer

[cedar crescent]

But colo does more dam if with Slayer execute on 3x targets.

[compact knot]

not when the egg will die in 10 seconds xdd

the egg might die in the first burn with the nerf they did

and the gear we are getting

also most guilds did not funnel the birds on the 2nd burn

[sullen dove]

fuck you

[fleet sorrel]

?

[sullen dove]

wtf even is that

sloppy toppy 5000 investments

[fleet sorrel]

3 star silver wolf

[sullen dove]

yea

[fleet sorrel]

so epic

[sullen dove]

never gotten that shit

[fleet sorrel]

i had the refresh 7 times to get the same cost in the shop

[sullen dove]

u just gotta get lucky no

[bitter palm]

five seven

[fleet sorrel]

yeah

mostly

[dry yarrow]

so are we playing thane or slayer next reset ?

for M+

[quasi fractal]

Everytime im forced to play currency wars i want to die

[fleet sorrel]

:/

i like it

[quasi fractal]

To each their own im glad they made DU and CW share the weekly reward so i can never touch it again

[signal falcon]

I think they’ll be close enough that you can just go with preference, but Slayer will have the edge in ST/prio damage

[solemn wagon]

hey guys how much % is the buff for fury this week?

[undone flower]

#updates-midnight message

[signal falcon]

Even playing Slayer now this reset it doesn’t feel that far off MT

[dry yarrow]

i see yeah i might just test both

to compare ig

[quartz wharf]

nice that fury will be less dogshit in raid now that theres an actual reason to pick slayer

[smoky vale]

bro wtf is this game how do i get to this

[fleet sorrel]

currency wars

should unlock early ish on with a skip feature

its like tft

[smoky vale]

im busy rennovating my room

because im going down my sidequests down one by one

i like the balatro mini game

[fleet sorrel]

down to rush curency wars

[smoky vale]

ill get to it oson

after i go through 20 side quests

[fleet sorrel]

down to rush seal slammers

[smoky vale]

no way there is yuri of her

...

[radiant plank]

??

tf u mean noway

newgen doesnt know of r34

[quasi fractal]

real ones were on for aetherium wars

[smoky vale]

i need another gacha to play while i play this one

[quasi fractal]

the makings of a gambling addict

[stiff maple]

there's yuri everywhere for those with eyes to see

[fleet sorrel]

You know Genshin is on the same launcher

[smoky vale]

something i can idle in or somethign

[bitter palm]

??

tf u mean noway

newgen doesnt know of r34

bayboy say

[paper pond]

Am I fucking myself over too hard by going slayer for dungeons?

[signal cave]

Are there any buffs that I should be tracking as fury?

[sullen dove]

flame

[undone nexus]

Raidbots havent implemented the buffs to both specs right? Cuz when I sim weekly/nightly/latest they all say pretty much the same number

[tardy lark]

they arent on the live game, so why would raidbots present incorrect information

[fleet yarrow]

No ur being a chad

[undone nexus]

they usually implement changes from PTR for people to simulate them on the nightly version

[tardy lark]

No. They are implemented on the day the changes are implemented. If its PTR stuff, raidbots has a beta branch called mimiron.raidbots or you can add ptr=1 as additional settings when simulating. The numbers from the updates channel is gotten by using overrides.

[undone nexus]

Thanks!

[compact siren]

@warm crag wake up

[smoky vale]

@gleaming siren wake up

[signal falcon]

With the Nihilhammer thing that comes out in a few weeks

That let’s you upgrade weapons and trinkets

Do we know if there’s a max amount of charges for the season

[humble lark]

how are fury looking with upcoming buffs? are slayer gonna be the play in keys?

[snow edge]

#updates-midnight message

[kind crystal]

#updates-midnight

[clever plover]

#updates-midnight

[fleet yarrow]

But yeah these are very nice buffs

me happy

[autumn otter]

New to the class and spec - for Slayer-Fury; I’m looking at the wowhead rotation guide and Bladestorm is in the opener; am I not using it unless I’m in Reckless?
Also the guide talks about optimising it (holding / not holding) what am I thinking about there?

For Raiding this is

[frank rover]

is any of u having ANY fun on arms

[loud sky]

I tried it, it's not bad in M+. You might enjoy it, but I switched back to Fury right away after trying Arms in a raid 😂

[frank rover]

i was moreso reffering to raid sorry

i feel like

they have a very complicated rotation with a lot of buttons

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

to do jack shit with

it's not to say that they should remove buttons but it feels so bad to play

[fleet yarrow]

You typically want to always use them together

as recklesness buff in dmg to it is insane

and they share very similar cd

[frank rover]

fury feels fine

[dull wedge]

u mean tomorrow

[frank rover]

they keep tweaking the rotation

for no reason

but it still feels simila

[fleet yarrow]

I wasn't aware that a rampage not even at 100 fury is > upgraded crushing blow

thats just sadge

[frank rover]

where as trying frost mage

not only they do crazy damage

thy don't need an action bar

it feels unfair that they do so much

while not doing anything

[bitter palm]

that's the difference

between midnight class design

and dragonflight class design

[frank rover]

it feels even worse than before, in tww i felt like we had our 5 seconds of glory

[bitter palm]

although tbh fury is a lot less hindered than arms for example

[frank rover]

now it's just the same dps the whole fight

[bitter palm]

arms suffers very hard from outdated design

most specs drop 1 2 irrelevant st talents to pick up all of their aoe

[frank rover]

i hate rend

[compact knot]

you could be like dev dh

[frank rover]

what an unbelievably unfun ability

[bitter palm]

at least u dont care about it anymore

[compact knot]

and you play the same talents on every raid boss (except mythic l'ura) and same talents in m+

[bitter palm]

ye

midnight design

[frank rover]

on fury you don't

[compact knot]

(they literally have the same talent page on every fight its insanity)

[bitter palm]

most classes lose very very little

for aoe

but arms

...

[frank rover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205267724696031273/1407563922780717130/sideyeing.gif

from bottom to bottom

[radiant plank]

You will spend 9 points for relevant AOE that force you to drop your core ST talents

[compact knot]

i wanna try the light cleave build on beloren and l'ura

me thinks it is good

[radiant plank]

what

cleave + collat?

[compact knot]

no collat

[radiant plank]

cleave + powerful

or plain cleave

[compact knot]

cleave + powerful

[radiant plank]

powerful

[compact knot]

and perhaps

[radiant plank]

one cleave press before the adds are dead on lura

[compact knot]

u do it on the termination crystals

no bladestorm

[radiant plank]

which one does more dam

[compact knot]

u bladestorm after the crystals die

[radiant plank]

1 cleave or 1 bs

[compact knot]

BS on the adds is a dps loss on the boss

so

[radiant plank]

true

what about your beloren tech for this

[compact knot]

its just pad

[radiant plank]

just play colo sT atp

[compact knot]

lmfao

but like you lose very lil st for it

oh man i cant type that word i forgot

i need to see slayer fury on beloren

[gleaming siren]

I've been awake for 6 hours

[compact knot]

i feel like its way stronger on the egg during lust > thane

with pre stacked bs stacks

filthy pad spec

[radiant plank]

Probably

[bitter palm]

the first step is to just remove cleave and make ms do aoe and we are chilling

[warm crag]

Hello

[radiant plank]

Legion

my beloved

[bitter palm]

no ww no cleave

[compact knot]

whirlwind just like shouldnt be a arms button anymore and cleave is just baseline

[radiant plank]

yerp

[compact knot]

but nope

[bitter palm]

ss makes ur ms do 100 % to primary 75% to secondary and 30% to everyone else

[burnt oxide]

Legion has WW tho

[compact knot]

lets add 15% whirlwind damage to practiced strikes

because that is just what we needed

[radiant plank]

precisely

[bitter palm]

op has dn already

[radiant plank]

I can press WW as a filler now

:cluegi

[compact knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1005641995949195364/1105443256529068104/attachment.gif

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-levrone-gif-3030246508126460083

me presssing WW

[compact knot]

my favorite part is that it like consumes your whole rage bar to do maybe 500 damage

if you crit

[bitter palm]

me pressing exe on 1s left of sd as colo in m+

just to see my rage bar disappear (sd ran out)

just to rage starve for the next 30 seconds (i dont have skyfury)

[compact knot]

might as well just hearth without skyfury

not timing the key anyways

[radiant plank]

they should nerf skyfury and give us opportunity strikes as mastery again

[bitter palm]

lowk might be a fury angle for me

[compact knot]

opportunity strikes owns

[bitter palm]

after buffs

[compact knot]

should also reset colossus smash like in cata

that would be fun

[radiant plank]

fuck exe sd's

[bitter palm]

that would be too engaging

[radiant plank]

cs is where its at

delet AM

[compact knot]

permanent 100% cs uptime

hmm

[radiant plank]

not really

its like 50% in cata

[tame dove]

im preparing my fury warr guys, what dungeons to use reroll are the best?

[radiant plank]

ok 80%

i lied

[compact knot]

yeah it was like 80%

[radiant plank]

atleast looking at my lgos

from cata classic

[compact knot]

nah it was like

40%

https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2gBDfbTnrJKqm6pG?fight=21&type=auras&spells=debuffs&hostility=1&ability=86346&source=174

i like how in this tier

your damage was based purely off a weapon proc

[fleet yarrow]

Oh my god bfa times

I loved them

[compact knot]

like i got a 99 on this kill just because gurthalak did top dps

[fleet yarrow]

I missed azerite gear

[compact knot]

and MS crit chance was 50%

[fleet yarrow]

where someone got their procs off and u didn't and suddenly they did triple ur dmg

[radiant plank]

from my nefarian kill

overall CS uptime

[tardy lark]

give me legion ToS arms with CS resets buffing MS/Exe

[compact knot]

think its higher in mop

let me check

like 50% in mop

[gleaming siren]

Hello!

Am now on lunchbreak

[burnt oxide]

Mop crit for ms is around 42 rn in bis, it does not have a crit mod

[compact knot]

idk what it is rn

i killed my warrior

windwalker only now

i was tired of being a skull banner loser

[burnt oxide]

Arms is the worst dps rn

[tardy lark]

how hte mighty has fallen

[burnt oxide]

Well frost dk kinda close

[compact knot]

im not surprised

nah good fdk's kinda do good boss damage

atleast the one i play with does

[burnt oxide]

They dont in comparisson

[compact knot]

if you count skull banner arms and fury are 1 and 2 though

but the specs themselves dont do damage

[burnt oxide]

Fury is is actually good now with close to 100% enrage uptime

[compact knot]

i think itll be fine when you have 100% bt crit

[burnt oxide]

Nothing can beat affli tho

[compact knot]

happens late next tier i think

[burnt oxide]

Never happens

You max out at ~96

[compact knot]

u sure?

pretty sure im at like 43% rn

[burnt oxide]

You see

[compact knot]

you only get +5% from full bis?

[burnt oxide]

Crit supression

[compact knot]

yeah but even then

full bis next phase has 51.68% crit

in the sim

oh

i see what you mean

hm

its not actually 100% crit chance

[burnt oxide]

51,6 would be 100 tbh, did not check bis for awl while

You need 51.5

[compact knot]

it should be 100% but the results page only shows 97.7%

i assume this is something to do with it being a skull mob

idk classic well enough to say though

trinkets next phase are nasty

gross amount of main stat

[fleet yarrow]

I have noticed

[burnt oxide]

Mastery and mainstats get better with high crit, so its nice

[fleet yarrow]

an influx of people getting mad and rage ruining keys now that im trying 15's

[burnt oxide]

Well there is one constant in your keys....

[fleet yarrow]

First pull academy

our shaman didn't bl

when I asked

[burnt oxide]

[fleet yarrow]

*the pull was fine

[burnt oxide]

Just use bl next key

[fleet yarrow]

true

[burnt oxide]

I would suggest having a short brief before keystart on bl usage and pulls

[fleet yarrow]

Well its more he just, didn't like the way the tank did the inital pull?

It seemed perfectly normal to me

[burnt oxide]

Does not matter if he likes it

You get what you have

The pull has already started, try to make the best out of ir

The shaman philosophy was: it was a bad pull we might brick key, so lets make sure we definitely brick it

[fleet yarrow]

but like it was perfectly fine, I literally could not see the issue with it

I do see why people don't like tanking tho because maybe he didn't do it 100% optimally and would MAYBE have costed us like 10 seconds??

And then people brick the key off it

[fleet yarrow]

will say tho Im always depresso

seeing DH dmg compared to me in any big pull

[burnt oxide]

Welcome to fury life

[fleet yarrow]

[burnt oxide]

Looks better at the end of the key

But big pulls we sad

[fleet yarrow]

yeah 5 man targets is that gucci spot

I just enjoy how much of the dmg is just rend

[burnt oxide]

Well it is an iconic ability

It should

[digital mauve]

Warrior buff effective tomorrow?

[burnt oxide]

On reset, so for NA, yes

[dense elbow]

Not for EU, I gotta suffer for 1 more day

[burnt oxide]

Vault is filled, raid is done, no need to suffer anymore for this week

[low crypt]

so salyer can be considered in raid ß

[burnt oxide]

Will suffer next week looking at this myth raid signup

[merry lotus]

People don’t just get to switch back to warrior

[pearl sequoia]

what guild are u in wtf lmao

[burnt oxide]

Just a random mix of mop players who decided to dabble into mythic, we already had ~15 players and 3 warriors before, but someone added another

I might need to swap to balance for raid

Second raidweek. First was unga bunga melee comp, we had to use warriors for madness on chin

[merry lotus]

I mean we are getting buffed but idk if it’s that good of a buff lol

[burnt oxide]

It is never good enough if you cripple yourself with way too much melee dps

[pearl sequoia]

even with the buffs warriors still just gonna be a pad machine

fury anyway

not really much incentive to bring multiple

[native wadi]

Warr is 1 per raid

Facts

More is not optimal bcs we re trash and as soon as everyone is geared and adds are padd

We done

[burnt oxide]

Could not even pad if you do madness

[native wadi]

Dooming

[hardy cairn]

Hey guys,

I need help.

Currently, my guild is playing Vorasius Mythic and my damage is terrible.

Between 65-70k

I'm currently using Thane and I see in videos people beating the boss much more than that.

I don't know if my stats are wrong, if I'm missing mastery, rotation, whatever... something's wrong...

[loud sky]

pad when the ads spawn

[languid egret]

most of Damge comes out from last adds if u skip mech and tunnel boss

u may pad adds in last phase before brsk

[hardy cairn]

my simc

[languid egret]

Vicrot r u fammiliar with russian lng ?

u can share u guide pretty cool one

[hardy cairn]

what is "pad" ?

[languid egret]

aoe adds

[hardy cairn]

no, what is this ?

[languid egret]

i dm u

check private

[hardy cairn]

Ah, I understand.
The big problem is that the damage is low, and when we get to phase 3, the boss still has a lot of HP and we wipe.
And when I check my damage in the details, it's 65k.

[uneven path]

Oh yeh, only reason to bring the fury to that fight is for us to kill adds

and we are not even that good at that

[novel rivet]

pad usually means doing damage to something you don't need to or sacrificing too much prio target damage to get higher on the meter before short lived adds die to a more efficient cleave done by the whole raid, "pad the meter"

[fading sky]

I mean do u have 100% boss uptime victor

Like most guilds on reclears, let melee have that by switchin sides. So u have adds diein closer 2 boss from the start if that is not ya strat dmg ofc will suffer

[hardy cairn]

Ty

[hardy cairn]

When i see the rogues dps, and he’s hitting 100k…
I get really bothered thinking about what to do to improve my dps

[supple glen]

what spec does the most dps while being played badly after the fix

[fading sky]

I presume u mean overall?

On voracious

Well u can at add spawn leap out and clap + aoe em

Or play slayer and try and bladestorm em

Didnt manage 100

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xrNCDjLQGHf9av2T?fight=33&type=summary&source=17

But u can check my kill id u like

[drifting token]

Realistically the easiest thing you can do to improve your dps is just wait for tomorrow and it'll instantly shoot up

[fading sky]

Facts🤣🤣

[restive edge]

Looking to start working on a warrior dps alt. With the changes coming tuesday which will perform better arms or fury? Im indifferent and enjoy both specs just want to play whatever is better.
(Have mythic 2 ton hammer and can craft a 2nd off hand if fury is better)

[warm crag]

Probably Arms but if its a for fun alt you should try both and See what you prefer

[restive edge]

Thats what I was thinking but if I can avoid sending a craft on an offhand that wont be needed I probably should. It started as prot to tank keys for my guild so ive already wasted 2 crafts on sword / shield

[burnt oxide]

You can opt for a hero offhand if you find one

Would be fine to start with

[drifting token]

"Better" is also extremely vague, specifying what content you wanna focus on would help

[warm crag]

Idk i think its col Arms for m+ and slarms for raid either way

[restive edge]

Sorry I should have. It would be for alt raids / heroic sales

[warm crag]

Raid is moving into piss easy bring what you want territory anyways

[spare steppe]

Unless it’s required to do mechanics and even big dps wont save you

[warm crag]

You skip mechanics by hitting hard

[spare steppe]

Tell that to the people who need to kick for saladhar 🙁

[sullen tendon]

Are you guys still spamming thunder clap in pulls between 6-8 targets without avatar up or do you focus on bloodbath and rampage

I’m trying to figure out why nox and statikk have so much higher clap damage than me in similar keys but with similar cast amounts within 10-15 cast difference.

And I don’t want to chalk it up to pure itemization

Not even 6 -8 it’s more like 5-7

[lusty jungle]

blasting to extend avatar

[opaque mortar]

If it's similar numbers of casts can you check the #of mobs hit? Are they just getting bigger pulls to clap?

You can see it in logs

[wind ether]

it can be the tank

really good tanks will micro stutter mobs so they all stack together

most average tanks don’t do this

[spare steppe]

Not just micro but also move them on top of ranged for any adds that leap or charge

[sullen tendon]

I want to blame the tank and pull routing but I also want to judge my own ability first. The difference in total damage at end of key was around 13k from my parse to statikk and noxivs. Which doesn’t sound like a few more thunderclaps would make up for. Which is why I lean more towards a routing issue.

It may also just be itemization. They have a lot more mythic raid gear and better stats

[spare steppe]

Cd timing could be a factor too

[sullen tendon]

Maybe

[spare steppe]

If the tank is pulling around their cooldowns etc

[sullen tendon]

I did more boss damage than their logs

[wind ether]

to answer your question yes you do blast in all pulls

[spare steppe]

Or monk buff/shaman/etc

[wind ether]

lightning strikes from thunder blast make your next 2 bloodthirst do way more dmg

[sullen tendon]

But also logs display boss dam weird

[sullen tendon]

Obviously you send tblast I’m talking regular tclaps without avatar

[wind ether]

lightning strikes happen form t clap too

[sullen tendon]

It’s just such a huge difference in parse damage

[wind ether]

it might be mastery

[sullen tendon]

I’m not online so I can’t check mine right now but I think it’s hovering around 45-55

[compact siren]

spongie is a tank

[wind ether]

from the simc apl

actions.thane_aoe=odyns_fury
actions.thane_aoe+=/recklessness
actions.thane_aoe+=/avatar
actions.thane_aoe+=/thunder_blast,if=buff.thunder_blast.stack=2
actions.thane_aoe+=/thunder_blast,if=buff.avatar.up
actions.thane_aoe+=/thunder_clap,if=talent.improved_whirlwind&buff.whirlwind.stack=0|(buff.avatar.up&active_enemies>6)
actions.thane_aoe+=/rampage,if=buff.enrage.remains<gcd|rage>=100
actions.thane_aoe+=/bloodbath
actions.thane_aoe+=/rampage,if=buff.recklessness.up
actions.thane_aoe+=/thunder_clap,if=buff.avatar.up
actions.thane_aoe+=/bloodthirst
actions.thane_aoe+=/thunder_blast
actions.thane_aoe+=/execute
actions.thane_aoe+=/thunder_clap
actions.thane_aoe+=/crushing_blow
actions.thane_aoe+=/rampage
actions.thane_aoe+=/raging_blow
actions.thane_aoe+=/whirlwind

without avatar looks like rampage > tclap if you have reck up, overcap rage, or losing enrage buff, otherwise tclap > rampage

[sullen tendon]

What target count is this

[buoyant geode]

With the next tuning, on Lura mythic, do you think fury slayer gonna be better than arm ?

[wind ether]

more than one

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/midnight/ActionPriorityLists/default/warrior_fury.simc

the full apl is here with single too

[sullen tendon]

Well yea but if it’s a 10 pack pull you’re going to hit non avatar tclap but if it’s 6 targets your going to hit bt/bb

[warm crag]

nah

[wind ether]

simc apl doesn’t seem to care

[buoyant geode]

Ok thanks

[warm crag]

the lines account for target count

the tc line in like 5 or whatever checks for >6 enemies so everything else is vaguely target count appropriate

[sullen tendon]

So this is a sim for around 6 targets

[warm crag]

its a sim for more than 1 target

[wind ether]

if you look at the first tclap where it says active_enemies>6

that one is specifically higher prior

but since you’re asking no avatar it’s not used

[sullen tendon]

Do you read this from top to bottom as a priority list or is that not correct

[wind ether]

that’s correct

the conditions are basically like

[sullen tendon]

Ok so it’s saying with 6 targets up and avatar up press tclap. And if avatar isn’t up tclap is below execute

[wind ether]

yeah looks like it

or if you have no whirlwind stacks

tclap higher prio to maintain those

[sullen tendon]

So this would change if it was pit or something with lots of aoe packs and with 12+ mob pulls