fury

[analog tapir]

Imagine if it was a hotfix and buffs are live

[queen aspen]

I wish

[timid tide]

Yesterday struggled with topping a guarding tank in 15 aa!

[analog tapir]

I mean guardian is getting dmg nerf

Btw he’s doing 800-900k burst in time trials mdi

[zinc python]

Honestly ill take anything I can get at this point to close the gap a little bit

Warrior has been feeling pretty bad

[olive wraith]

Ravager is over hated

[modest cedar]

Just seen the buffs to warrior. Fury going to pop off now?

[brittle crow]

overhatema balls

[undone nexus]

Hello guys, do we have an estimate % for st and aoe with new buffs?

[olive wraith]

Pop off is extreme. But the buffs are good

[olive wraith]

Update channel

[modest cedar]

I prefer the play fury over arms, feels so clunky

[undone nexus]

Thank you

[worn yoke]

Slayer fury is back on the menu without being a meme. We will no longer be the bottom of the pack but we will not be a force to be reckoned with by any means

[spare jewel]

prob is arms colossus is also getting buffed by around 3%

[queen aspen]

Maybe raging blow is gonna be a decent button to press now

[hybrid cargo]

apparently you wont press it all that much more than you do now

[hushed ocean]

ARE WE BACK ?

someone plz tell me

[worn yoke]

It won't be priority. Therefore it'll be the same as now.

[olive wraith]

Yes

[hushed ocean]

ok, so we are back

[olive wraith]

It’s ahead of rend and throw now

[worn yoke]

We're not last anymore. That's a plus.

[zinc python]

sounds like we'll be close to middle of the pack now

[queen aspen]

Are we slowly closing the gap on arms ?

We are coming cleave abusers

As tb abusers

[worldly meteor]

yeah thats what I'm curious about - idk how much the fury vs arms gap is changing with these buffs

[white relic]

atm rend is on a higher prio then RB for a little gain. with that buff, you think, that those talent will swap the positions on the prio list?

[stoic star]

I guarantee we see a nerf in 0.7 if these buffs stay the same. whenever fury is high A tier / S tier we get nerfed i swear.

for as long as ive been playing since i came back in shadowlands ive never seen fury sit S tier the whole season but i could be wrong

[clever iron]

whoooo buuffffaas

[stoic star]

Fury: All Damage 5% - Execute 20% - Raging Blow 20% Slayer: Slayer Strike 40% + Reap the Storm 30% - Ground Current 50% w/ Thane.

HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE

[clever iron]

woooo finallly

[stoic star]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[brittle crow]

"A tier / S tier" lol

[clever iron]

very gooood morning gameeers

[brittle crow]

we got buffed from bottom 1 to lower mid

[odd agate]

we will 100% not be s tier for raid

[olive wraith]

Did we get nerfed s3

[brittle crow]

behave urselves

[stoic star]

I guess im mostly talking about M+.

Not raid St.

[analog tapir]

Even if u get a 10% buff ur not passing a devourer m8

[stoic star]

I have a 280 devourer and i hate it.

[brittle crow]

dev got a 5% nerf, we got a 10% buff, we still aint winning

[stoic star]

devourer will sit on the throne the whole season no matter what. its the new shiny spec.

[analog tapir]

From garbage to an actual spec that’s the change btw

[brittle crow]

dev hasnt been on the throne for a while now

[analog tapir]

No where near to broken

[woven valley]

huh? dev has been top dps by far for a lil bit now

[stoic star]

Aug is all fluff

hes saying aug is better

[brittle crow]

if u count padding as important yea

if u count ethical damage its just very good

[woven valley]

i mean damage is damage

no such thing as ethical damage on the meters kek

[spare jewel]

slayor fury would need to be something like 25% better to overtake collosus

[brittle crow]

bars

i always pad

[analog tapir]

I mean in paladins his doing more dmg than us

[stoic star]

im saying devourer is the most represented in all M+ groups along with unholy/aug. not throne as in the actual best among all

thats a whole lotta purp if you ask me.

[brittle crow]

prob not after the nerf

demo is gonna win in m+ now

over ddh

[stoic star]

i doubt it.

[spare jewel]

no more god dps to aug and aug nerfed meta dead

[analog tapir]

Devourer rn is the strongest spec in the game

[odd agate]

huh? demo isn't getting buffed

[analog tapir]

S tier for raid S tier for M+

[brittle crow]

cuz its been top 1 this whole patch

[stoic star]

i hope the nerf is actually catastrophic for unholy/devourer/aug and i say that as someone with a geared devourer ( doesnt matter that im dog shit at it 😉 )

[brittle crow]

its not

its 5%, ddh is fine

[stoic star]

where does it say Demonology buffs

[odd agate]

idk if their survivability is good enough for the absolute top keys to overtake the current meta

[heavy galleon]

How to use rampaging ruin well ?

[brittle crow]

demonology is the tankiest caster

and its not close lol

other than the other warlock specs

[analog tapir]

High chance devourer will be replaced with demo lock for high keys

[brittle crow]

id put money on it

[heavy galleon]

Balance is always like that, 3-4 specs are surrepresented on leaderboard

[analog tapir]

Cuz dk is not getting replaced

[urban thunder]

There seems to be a grand total of... 1 demo lock in that top-29 raiderio list. Compared to 27 devs and 20+ uh's.

[fair widget]

Mdi streamers did that a week ago already

[brittle crow]

yes, and then ddh gets nerfed

by 6%

making demo better for those people

[dense elbow]

Why sorry? This is all stuff I asked for

I simply keep winning atm

[fading sky]

Rb build funky?

[dense elbow]

soon

[olive wraith]

Reap?

[dense elbow]

I am happy with how reaps works atm

I dont want more reaps, just stronger reaps

It is known

[smoky vale]

i want s3

and df s3

and s2 uh

[dense elbow]

I am just worried about the huge DPS swings you can see on a fight to fight basis, based on procs atm.

Yet, that is the price you pay for them to be impactful

[verbal sluice]

We thinking slayer or thane after buff

[smoky vale]

arms

[full rampart]

For M+?

[verbal sluice]

No arms lol

[smoky vale]

for both

[dense elbow]

We probably will still play Thane. The Slayer crew just gonna slay more

And I will be too dps in my group and it wont even be close (till we get nerfed)

[smoky vale]

you already play it for bosses that matter

[vernal laurel]

Yo guys, does these numbers include the flat 5% increase in dmg as well?

[snow edge]

Yes

[smoky vale]

i assume so

[vernal laurel]

Ah ok, thought that MT would gain more from the ground current buff than 1%

[snow edge]

Not really, it makes up a small portion of overall damage

[vernal laurel]

Cause i assume that the change is the flat 5% + the dmg increase from the ground current buff

[signal falcon]

Is the RB buff enough for that side of the tree to be considered?

[vernal laurel]

Really nice either way

[signal falcon]

Or BT still too strong

[vernal laurel]

Apparently not, but we will have to see

[fading sky]

Do fury gain 10% coz we go rb build?

Guess sims will show

Wait it was allready super close when rb was nerfed 10%?

As slayer ofc

[signal falcon]

I have no idea tbh

[fading sky]

Thane is bt

[olive wraith]

Archi said probably no talent swaps

[snow edge]

Archi already said it looked unlikely based on original assessment, but there'd be more testing to see

[olive wraith]

Tbd though

[snow edge]

Presumably that means those % figures are based on retaining current builds

[fading sky]

If not we get a way stronger filler

[signal falcon]

Slayer still likes BT talents a lot since Bladestorm benefits from it too

[fading sky]

Yup

[signal falcon]

But yeah hopefully enough that you actually cast cleaved RB’s now

[fading sky]

I mean or a buff to AA

Could help our st more

[vague stump]

hopefully slayer is cooking abit now will be fun to play slayer in some keys although I am not sure its enough to play over colossus

[fading sky]

As 10% of meh still meh

But furys st should out perform arms

[vague stump]

yeah with funnel it doesn't and u basically can pull funnel into everything

outside of like a few bosses

[fading sky]

We talkin raid

[vague stump]

oh for raid

sure

[fading sky]

Also funnel exist only in high end

And is pretty irrelavant for 90%

99%

Actually

[vague stump]

very true fury will be alot more popular in keys below 19 or so I guess

[fading sky]

Id sat prob is better specs got buffed as well

[fading sky]

Y funnel is fun but outside teams, or top tier u dont c

• sky reach has reduced it

[vague stump]

skyreach may possibly be one of the only keys now you may run slarms or even fury tbh will be nice to see what people cook

[fading sky]

Tbh.mby fury 2 firsr boss

Rest has 2 targets

Wait not robot man eitger hmm

Dno so 2 st 2 2t

[radiant raven]

whats the evidence?

[fading sky]

Well

Math

Outsimmed before

Arms where better coz of bug

Wasnt weighted in sims

Arms lost more. Got smaller buff

So i guess thats my evidence?

[radiant raven]

chill, im just asking to see the math

[chilly sapphire]

there's a lot of buffs to a lot of specs in those notes.

[fading sky]

Check updates then?

[radiant raven]

i know the updates, and i still think arms has better ST

hence asking for the math

[fading sky]

I mean the updates is the msth

arms outperformed sims by 5 3-5%

So sims were set 2 fit

Now arms gains 8 % fury 10%

[vague stump]

arms hasn't had better single target the whole tier. the reason arms out performs fury in M+ content and also some raid fights is the funnel

[fading sky]

Thank you lord

I mean slayer arms > thane fury ofc

[radiant raven]

sorry, im just thinking raiding

[fading sky]

Raid is same

[vague stump]

slarms and thane were like pretty much identical in numbers pre deep wounds nerf

[fading sky]

Only reason arms is above fury on poles is

Paladins

Dragons

[vague stump]

yeah and dragon because of sweeping

[fading sky]

Lura execute

[vague stump]

oh yeah and P3 lura

[fading sky]

And pala + dragon u play m+ col build

P3 lurs no longer btw

[radiant raven]

theres like.. 10 warrior logs in Lura.

[fading sky]

The 2 x dw was huge

[vague stump]

I would guess thane would out perform on lura in P1 now also so idk

[fading sky]

Arms was only thete for p3

10 public logs y

[radiant raven]

My understanding is that Arms presses a lot more on OP and Execute than fury presses RB and Execute.

[cedar crescent]

Bro looks like Jason Mamoa, I think Jason would have played a warrior

[radiant raven]

and we should wait to see which one is actually better in ST instead of building to much hopes

[radiant raven]

i get that a lot

[fading sky]

M8

We are talkin sims ofc. But 2 understand how arms outperformed in raid

Do u know?

[vague stump]

the OP buff isnt that big its ur 4th highest prio button in single target

[fading sky]

And do u realise arms did not in prog but only reclears

[cedar crescent]

Is it possible to sim next patch? Wana see if colo or Slayer is better in aoe

[fading sky]

M8

Its,colo

Dont need sim

[vague stump]

just run your own sims based on your gear theyre not really super transferable

well they are and aren't

but you deffo arent optimised if your running both if that makes sense

[fading sky]

I presume both are arms

[radiant raven]

Mythic vorasius, damage to bosses.
8% to 106 puts it at 114k
10% to 96k puts it at 105k

i still feel that Arms will be doing more ST

those are last 24h logs, so bugfixed

[bitter palm]

if fury goes full st it will do more st

[cedar crescent]

I rerolled arms all the way, fury feels less engaging.

[cedar crescent]

Slayer arms do more ST than fury

[radiant raven]

thats what im saying

im playing both extensively, im reading logs, im researching. all the evidence suggest the same

[sullen dove]

its probably a little better but its not like its 10% ahead still

the fury logs are just not doing boss damage

assuming u rlooking at boss dmg

ur leaping out and bladestorming a stack of like 4 blister creeps

[radiant raven]

its unlikely to have ALL the furys not doing boss damage

at least there would be 1 who would go full zug zug ST

[sullen dove]

not as many but yea some might be trying a little

is 96k the absolute highest or is that some average

[radiant raven]

so those would be parsing low, but outliers in boss damage

and i still dont find them

[cedar crescent]

But thats the thing, no one cares about add damage. Most of the time you have devs and locks exploding adds.

[fading sky]

But arms lives of em

[sullen dove]

theres also the like age old situation of "one spec is perceived better" so all the good players play the better spec and less good people play fury so as a result it just looks worse than it may be

[fading sky]

So go prog

[sullen dove]

type of shit happens all the time with other multi dps spec classes

like if fire is the best mage spec everyone plays fire and only bad ppl play frost/arcane so it looks alot worse in comparison than it is

[radiant raven]

fury is still 2x more played than arms at vorasius

[sullen dove]

im sure there will be way more fury gamers

[fading sky]

Vora adds succes as srms requires u to smack add and boss for free executes

[bitter palm]

arms is gonna fucking own on lura

[sullen dove]

yea quantity/quality type shit

[cedar crescent]

If you compare arms and fury on Beloren egg phase. Fury dels 4mil on average. Arms does 4mil to almost 6mil.

[fading sky]

By shitters

[fading sky]

Burst

[sullen dove]

fury is def still horrible for beloren egg

but like ur not wiping to egg dmg anymore

if ur entire raid is alive

[radiant raven]

guess we just have to wait and see the end result

[vague stump]

like why we comparing a burst phase fury to slarms

[cedar crescent]

True

[fading sky]

Dno

[radiant raven]

im not

[sullen dove]

yea forgot this too

[fading sky]

And thats not prog

[sullen dove]

unlike fury arms has the potential to gain more boss dmg by correct placement of adds if u can sweep some exe

[vague stump]

I mean there isn't one fury log in the top 100 running single target talents and the slarms guys are

[sullen dove]

its not likely many arms are doing that

[fading sky]

Prog u go to mars

[cedar crescent]

Which boss?

[sullen dove]

but if comparing like absolute best arms log theres likely some of that going on

[fading sky]

All good logs are

[sullen dove]

sweep execute off an add doing more dmg to the boss

[vague stump]

vor

[sullen dove]

ya maybe just seems more troll/unlikely to ask guild "put an add on first set next to boss and no one else hit it so i can sweep executes off it on boss and then itll drop a puddle in the middle of our whole melee space"

that like 99% of the time probably never happens

on 2nd set sure cuz u kill before third

[cedar crescent]

Bust vor is like if you bladestorm smallies you get a good log.

[sullen dove]

but first set them shits are miles away

[fading sky]

Also as said good logs for arms is pre nerf to dw

So numbers have changes more thn the 10%

[vague stump]

if you sort via dmg to bosses but this is what I mean like the slarms guys doing boss dmg are in single target build

[sullen dove]

i mean st vs aoe build on fury is nonexistant difference

[vague stump]

and there isn't a fury log I can see that is playing pure single target in that fight lol

[fading sky]

So is fury😆

[sullen dove]

unless ur playing thane

actually 1 talent difference that no one ever bothers to swap anyway

[fading sky]

I mean u play powerfull swings most likely

[sullen dove]

swap iww for enraged regen poggers

idk what that is maybe theres some other dmg talent

[fading sky]

Nope

Id wager if rb side of tree is stronger

[sullen dove]

ya maybe can get somethin down there now

[fading sky]

Fury will be mpre consistent

[rotund steppe]

we going back to slayer bois?

changing my name finally?

[sullen dove]

for raid yea if you havent been already

m+ prolly still a little suske

but gap is closer

[vague stump]

I dunno why archi says anything about ruin fuck me that talent is absolute garbage

idk how I do less dmg with it but you do its crazy shit

I think it needs to do reduced damage past 8 then you have a very good reason to run it

but reduced past 5 its just like rampage but worse prio dmg lol

[rotund steppe]

nothing will be worse than that season when we had to play plate DH

[sullen dove]

it def needs a rework but i think was just comparing like sustained multitarget

not taking into account the turbo st loss

like slayer with ruin is on par on a 'big' sustained pull with thane

but you dont really get giga long sustained pulls in m+ anyway which the other point of the comment about thanes like cd alignment and stuff still just makes it noticably better

man its crazy i can gain over 2 ilvl next week

this myth of the dawn shit man

main could be 287 ilvl

still dont have a myth glove or belt to upgrade tho.. gg

[bitter palm]

happens when 🥄

[sullen dove]

nope

self made

0 spoon

[waxen vale]

🥄

[sullen dove]

just some good vaults

[vague stump]

what I would give to be given loot from raid

all goes to DK

although I will deffo get my weap from pit for my arms M+ stuff

which could be big

[fading sky]

Haha dk nerfed

[fading sky]

I reeealy cant complain

[desert cloud]

Where

[fading sky]

I got heart early. And bonus rolls + vault fixxed rest

[desert cloud]

What about dh or lock nerf

Aug too

[strange drift]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-2309046074574247983

Finally

[flat river]

Does this mean we will use RB again

[olive wraith]

Filler still

[flat river]

Fuck

[sand sand]

im sure i can still play fury thane and push right

ion like bladestorm that much

[flat river]

I'm talking about slayer fury

Will we use RB again

Or still filler

[ebon lantern]

I'm confused as to why Raging Blows was buffed

[stiff maple]

ye

[young swan]

cause it sucks

worse button than wrecking throw or rend

[odd agate]

Thane is likely still better in m+

[fading sky]

Coz if was horrid

Both slayer has a spot noe

I think its almost play what u like

[odd agate]

Might be dungeon dependant though, if we're talking about what's absolutely optimal

[fading sky]

I think multi and st sre so close now

Ofc i reckon if u can get 3t funnel mby slayer?

The ramp sd procs

I mean reap

Also doenst ww reap

Or was itnrempced

[young swan]

just ramp

no ww

[fading sky]

Oki

But still

Might make up for the wsted ww global st wise?

[floral bay]

are these changes gonna end up making fury a more attractive choice for keys? Feel like there's still prolly not gonna be much of a point taking us over other meele dps or even Arms for that matter

[young swan]

not much changes in regard to being a meta pick, we just arent dogshit anymore

[hot shell]

Man, if fury slayer might be playable.. i might play it

[flat river]

xan you were in my dream yesterday

[clever escarp]

Quick Question what is this about with the Cancel Aura Thing for Ruin? I maybe inting some Keys kekw

[young swan]

gotta learn to keep this stuff to yourself

[flat river]

we vced and had a chill time thats it though

[young swan]

if you dont have a cancel aura for your whirlwind cleave buff you are basically just losing 40% rampage damage on ST

but taking RR at all is pretty troll

[clever escarp]

That Sounds rly cool

[young swan]

as you're just giving up prio damage

[flat river]

Xan will RB be used as main in slayer

or still filler

[young swan]

still filler

[clever escarp]

Ye but had fun with it

[flat river]

😭

[young swan]

more power to you

just need 2 rampage buttons

[clever escarp]

I see

[young swan]

one with cancel aura, one without

[clever escarp]

Thats Little bit Sus tbh

[young swan]

yes its very dogshit

[flat river]

they should really do away with RR and just make improved WW hit 8 targets

[young swan]

the fact we can cancelaura the WW buff at all is legit a bug

or oversight

whatever you wanna call it

[clever escarp]

Blizzard isnt disapointing I can tell

[flat river]

i really want RB to be main ability for slayer

smh

[cerulean badger]

Wait thats still a thing ?

[young swan]

yep

[cerulean badger]

Fugg

[flat river]

what a surprise, i queued as fury no invites, i queued as arms insta invite

[cerulean badger]

What was the thing again?

You gain Rampage dmg in ST if you cancelaura the ww or something ?

[timid tide]

Its interesting to note that it says they are monitoring warrior and will add additions changes if needed. I mean, they don't have to say that, it's assumed for all classes, but it's explicitly stated for us

[timid tide]

More like, with RR talent you lose ST dmg for aoe with rampage. Cancel aura makes it a regular rampage

[copper parcel]

Fury
All damage increased by 5%.
Execute damage increased by 20%.
Raging Blow damage increased by 20%.
Slayer: Slayer’s Strike damage increased by 40%.
Slayer: Reap the Storm damage increased by 30%.
Mountain Thane: Ground Current damage increased by 50%.

Protection
Execute damage increased by 20%.
Mountain Thane: Thunder Blast damage increased by 30%.
Mountain Thane: Ground Current damage increased by 50%.

thunder blast dmg, here is also applies to fury too right? since there is not spec wise difference in hero talent?

[remote bobcat]

No.

The Thunder Blast buff only applies to Protection Warrior, not Fury Thane

[gilded granite]

What is RR?

[mossy pelican]

"we don't want warrior to be literally so bad that they all quit the game but we do want to be mindful that it doesn't become a good class"

[signal falcon]

Rampaging Ruin

[gilded granite]

Nvm found it.

So you cancel it when you want more prio? Or is it bugged and you do less dmg st always?

[young swan]

the bug is being able to cancel aura at all, you use the cancel aura so that you dont do 40% less rampage damage on ST

you will always lose prio damage in aoe with rampaging ruin

[gilded granite]

Ok thx, never knew. Guess that is what I get for not joining here sooner.

[dry yarrow]

it's painful ... i made a uhdk to actually be able to play the game kinda sad

[signal falcon]

Tbf you should never use it anyway so not really missing out by not knowing about it 😛

[timid tide]

No one runs RR anyway. And even if you do you basically cancel aura for the most part and use the RR aura on very big packs.

[dry yarrow]

like iam getting invite in legit 0 keys with thane fury

and i don't want to play arms

[signal falcon]

I just do my own keys on Warrior

[dry yarrow]

people rlly only care bout the meta

i can understand but yeah

it sucks

[timid tide]

I think I get invited as Thane just because I'm 3.2k RIO. Then they add the blasters Frost, Havoc, Uhdk, etc. and my dmg looks bad. Yesterday I got asked if warrior sucks that bad

[dry yarrow]

bro iam 3K5 xdd

+17 is the max i can do

legit getting 0 invites now

need to do my key

[timid tide]

I occasionally get invited solo. I mostly stopped doing runs with guild, so I pug with a friend healer, resto druid, so get invites more often that way

[dry yarrow]

if they rework the lfg system one day

i'll be happy

imagine you pay 13€/month but can't play the game unless you are a metaslave or like to waste 2-3h finding a key

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-meme-notyouraverageflight-notyouraverageflight-meme-not-your-average-flight-gif-15102885231826256493

[timid tide]

I like suffering in the trenches to be honest, going solo in the chaos. Whatever score I get, I known it's 50% me, 50% the pugs. Don't rely on coordinated group, communicating on discord to get 3.4k and brag about it

[copper parcel]

Thunder blast is hero talent which was the same thing like the Storm surge, thats why i asked, got it ty

[fading sky]

Keys are np

13 euro are nothin

2.5cup of coffee

[remote bobcat]

tbh 13 euros used to be a shitton but nowadays its just one fast food meal

[fading sky]

Here itd less

[south kayak]

Good thing the subscription price never went up to account for inflation

[vagrant garden]

i mean with the amount of bugs occurred this expansion, we can certainly hope for it lol, in blizz dev we trust

[compact knot]

why have none of you padding losers played slayer on beloren yet

sorry thats toxic

[frosty axle]

Wasn’t allowed to pad

Needed to kill the boss

[lusty jungle]

Great acting everyone, lets widen the gap

[compact knot]

i feel like this is cope on a boss like vorasius but

2 hour necroposting btw

like the top boss damage log on vorasius is apook who pretty much only hit the boss and light cleaved the adds and only did 99k boss dps

meanwhile the rank 1 thru 10 arms warriors are all like 109k avg boss dps and light cleaving adds as well

[regal marten]

Slayer

Is so back

I knew it

This is gonna be S tier for sure

Just a bit more hotfixing

Just a bit more

[teal tapir]

will be this buff enough to start playing slayer again ? kinda new to warr so i personaly dont have any clue if its enough but i dont like mountain in raid 😄

[compact knot]

boss dependant probably

[regal marten]

Thane feels weird. I played it for a long time, takes some time to master maybe but I'm saying AoE in m+

Since Reap is capped at 8 targets it should technically be better than thane if it procced more often

[teal tapir]

basically my biggest dps lost iam not using thunderblast/clap correctly during ST so basiccaly slayer is more friendly for me as newbie

[regal marten]

Above 35% you kinda just Execute->Rampage->TB->BT->RB. Below 35% you can do Rampage->BT->Execute->TB->RB

But it's not that much of difference if you mess it a bit I think

It's kinda dependent on that 35% increase BT dmg, I found it Slayer is more consistent ST

[fallen ginkgo]

archi literally said thane will still probably be better in m+ cuz of consistency of cds and slayer will only be like close to thane

slayer will be better yes

but still not good enough to overtake thane

and we are more tanky as thane

[regal marten]

I mean it is more consistent yet but depending on route and timing I think Slayer is better

[teal tapir]

so it will take a time to see after the patch and US betatesters upload some logs if slayers is really back in the game

[compact knot]

loboz build inc

[regal marten]

I just got 175k overall on Magister's some days ago which is 20k below Noxiv Thane's. Overall is not the best way to measure it but that's how I look at it

So the Reap of Storms increase in dps and Slayer's Strike could close this gap

By 5-10k at least

[compact knot]

is that details vs wcl overall

[regal marten]

Wcl

[compact knot]

ic

[regal marten]

In game I think I had 180k but some was padded cause why not

Whirlwind 20 targets baby

Thane feels kinda weird to play I still don't know the rotation on it to this day

[compact knot]

its very cluttered in cd with the rampage rage reduction

that apex talent blows

[regal marten]

No cds just TC>4 targets, when targets below 35% health maybe prio it but depends on how many mobs

With CDS same thing

[compact knot]

i like when rampage consumes your whole rage bar and that talent ruins that feeling

[regal marten]

I mean that's why I like it. In Recklesness you just spam 50 rampage and proc Reap of Storms

[honest trail]

ALLELUIAH

[regal marten]

Wait

[regal marten]

Wdym?

[compact knot]

you have random tblast procs, random bt procs, rampage costing like 0 rage inside recklessness

[regal marten]

Oh

[compact knot]

just makes the rotation feel cluttered

too many moving parts that literally like dont matter the order you push them in

[regal marten]

Yea that feels weird cause some stuff overalps. I have times when I don't even cast my 35% increase dmg BT to just Rampage->TC

[regal marten]

Or other times where I neglect my Rampage totally cause I do BB->TC when targets below 35% health

[sour pollen]

is this on everyn thunderclap or no

[lean haven]

Ok, I've read the patch notes. Is it possible, that slayers can have actually working RB builds?

[compact knot]

its on every thunder blast, not every thunder clap

[sonic finch]

boys real question: is rampaging ruin worth it in some specific high keys? or is it just legit padding for overalls ?

[sour pollen]

thanks

[sonic finch]

like in pit or MT maybe

[regal marten]

TB has also 100% chance to cast it

[regal marten]

You lose some ST dmg for more AoE

[sour pollen]

i'm dogshit at arms so anything for mplus i'll take

[regal marten]

Someone that uses it answer this warrior friend

Arms feels weird. It's good on maybe 10+ targets sure

Cause their cds regenerate faster

[sour pollen]

yes maybe its also weird cause i have 0 hours into it and a gazillion into fury

[regal marten]

Same

😭

I tried it I can't

[sour pollen]

its defo bis for 18 +

[still silo]

Same here however the switchover was quite easy

[honest trail]

With the RB buff are we going to play some adrenaline again?

[still silo]

Took maybe 3 days

[regal marten]

Idk but doing 250k dps as Arms in PoS is not easy

Like wtf is that

255k Maisara

[still silo]

That also depends on your tank

And pulls

[regal marten]

It does but still

[sour pollen]

u need to keep that thing on 10 between pulls and shit thats what i hate

forgot what its called

[regal marten]

Demolish

[sour pollen]

yee

[compact knot]

they made it even harder to play in .5 patch btw

[still silo]

The timer is super long so it’s not bad if your zooming

[regal marten]

I don't think. BT still heavy hitter atm. Unless they say: Reap of Storms on RB cast then not yet

[compact knot]

it has so many small optimizations that all add up as well

spec is stupidly hard for no reason

[regal marten]

It made it easier. Demolish resets faster

[still silo]

Naaaah I wouldn’t say it’s hard at all

[sour pollen]

i timed 19 pos with 150 k overall ass fury but rest 200 k dps ;L

[still silo]

It just has more than 2 buttons

[compact knot]

you would think that makes it easier

[regal marten]

sob

[compact knot]

but it most certainly does not

[regal marten]

Well I tested a bit it aligns almost perfectly with Smashing thingy

[compact knot]

it did on aoe prior to the change

which is the issue

now its TOO fast

[still silo]

Sometime you can get 2 demolish off in one smash window

[compact knot]

^

[sonic finch]

i did a couple MT's with it today 17-18 and it was more overall

the ST was definitely worse

but it wasnt like i was beneath the tank either

[regal marten]

I mean ST is where you lose time so you can let other classes do AoE

[sonic finch]

thats not a good example though because free haste and lots of pad in that dungeon

[sour pollen]

i think in keys the shitty ST drags down overall

[regal marten]

Or you just cancel the Rampaging Ruin after each Whirlwind

[sour pollen]

and first pull dmg also

[regal marten]

Yea

[sour pollen]

i mean i cant play arms in 18 without learning first i'm to half assed

i tried +13 looking at bars entgire dungoen lol

[regal marten]

Idk my worst Arms is my mid Fury play

It's so stupid

[still silo]

Arms is definitely buffed more here for ST as they greed execute on slayer

I just can’t stand BT prio

[regal marten]

Stop the arms talk in #fury 😭

Everytime I come here I see arms

This spec is dead or smth

[subtle lagoon]

arms is cringe af

[still silo]

But so is fury right now

[regal marten]

Tbh the biggest hype I get from playing my Slayer is I have like 15% speed and after War Machine I run so fast like I'm prepped for Bladestorm

[still silo]

Warriors just feel cringe :’(

I am sad

[subtle lagoon]

I'm referring to the spec itself rather than performance

[still silo]

I might recraft and try fury again after the buffs though

I miss fury

[honest trail]

Are the changes on Mimiron yet?

[still silo]

Not sure

[compact knot]

i thought the same as you once

[still silo]

Saaammeee

[compact knot]

i thought arms was cringe

then i experienced a single execute phase with lust on mugzee

and i changed my mind instantly

[remote bobcat]

dude arms on rashanan

💯

[compact knot]

lust execute st...

chills

[fleet yarrow]

If I get bladestorm back super quick with recklnessess still on 30seconds cd, do I hold or just blade storm it?

[hearty geyser]

Imagine we will play again slayer and spam rb

[still silo]

Don’t I would cry so hard

Happy tears

[frank harbor]

Don't do this

[hearty geyser]

Why

[frank harbor]

don't give us hope

[hearty geyser]

its giga pump

aa

aaaaaaa

[steel shard]

How many buffs have execute gotten now since launch

like 4?

4 15-20% buffs

[still silo]

S3 TWW slayer fury was just OH FUCK YEAH

[fleet yarrow]

Good old Dragonflight season 1 fury...

[hearty geyser]

its can be 100%

[steel shard]

🤡

[frank harbor]

but yeah the up is really good for slayer 😄 hope to see in mm+ what it done

[fleet yarrow]

Where your entire rotation was

rb, rb rb rb rb, rampage, rb rb rb

[still silo]

Yes this is good, this is zugzug

[hearty geyser]

they buff rb and maybe then will be another tuning and we will play slayer

[honest trail]

k changes are not on mimiron yet, they sim the same

[finite forge]

slayer > colosus yes?

[still silo]

Rb will never be good unless they give it reap procs

[pearl sequoia]

colosus fury is pretty mid

[fleet yarrow]

It feels so bad that its literal bottom priority next to whirlwind

[compact knot]

it actually got nerfed going into tww s2

[hearty geyser]

yep

[compact knot]

lol

[fleet yarrow]

like rend single target is higher prio on it thats sad

[compact knot]

its been a couple now though

[still silo]

Yeah we get 2 charges but cannot use it 😂

[honest trail]

Not with next week's tuning anymore

[fleet yarrow]

ye I saw da buff

20%

[honest trail]

& I already pressed RB over Rend

[still silo]

Buffs looks great, but I think they will impact arms more

[honest trail]

It's barely 0.5% dps loss

[still silo]

Because of execute

[pearl sequoia]

20% polish the turd

[fleet yarrow]

my muscle memory is too engrained in raging blows that I keep fucking up using rend instead

[still silo]

Hey at least rend is AoE now

Imagine if it was like before

[honest trail]

But then you just press WW

[gleaming crag]

We back boys 5 percent aura!

[still silo]

What is ground current damage

[digital mauve]

So both fury and Thane ST will still be at the bottom if ST chart ?

[still silo]

That’s confuses me a bit

[still silo]

Looks that way, big ST increase for arms, not so much fury

[south kayak]

It's the AoE portion of Lightning Strike

[still silo]

Ahhhhhh

Ty

[south kayak]

Well, it is actually a bigger increase for fury than arms

[still silo]

How so?

[south kayak]

Check the updates-midnight channel

[gleaming crag]

5 percent aura gain

[south kayak]

And Fury just has more buffs

So it's very obvious

I don't know how you missed that lol

[digital mauve]

They say they gonna monitor war so maybe we'll get more

[still silo]

It’s more execute phase for slayer arms is gonna feel great

With the buffs but yeah I see that now

[floral belfry]

rage starved

[still silo]

Yeah indeed but it’s not horrendous

[ornate gust]

It will not help alot because of the flat damage profile.

[digital mauve]

Well they could further buff RB, BT or Exécuté more

Or 10% aura buff

[still silo]

Just give RB reap procs at 20%

[south kayak]

How is that not gonna help

[still silo]

ez

[compact knot]

if you arent doing 500k dps in cds and 200k dps outside of cds are you really winning

[still silo]

Turn off your details and have fun

😂

[onyx belfry]

so what do we think slayer will outperform mountain ?

[compact knot]

fury and arms certainly will not look so bad on beloren egg damage though

which is nice

[still silo]

You’ll do more than tank at least

[compact knot]

well...

i think guardian is just a perfect spec for that fight

[ornate gust]

You know many of us forced to rerolled or got benched! This of how bad the situation is!

[still silo]

Guardian getting massive nerfs

[compact knot]

other dps struggle to beat guardian

[digital mauve]

Btw reeolling for ret is a good idea no ? Ranges, more ST, equal MT, utilities ?

[still silo]

Ew

[compact knot]

ret isnt really ranged btw

[fallen ginkgo]

i will never reroll

[compact knot]

you have to melee things

[molten cloud]

@compact knot any ide why all my dmg is gone?

context

[digital mauve]

More than war for sure

[molten cloud]

am in highmounted on 73

[gusty fern]

i forced to play ele ...

[still silo]

Ngl if my guild tried to force me to reroll I would leave

[compact knot]

do you have a 2nd weapon equipped

[molten cloud]

yes

[compact knot]

uh idk

you should be doing like more dps in open world as fury

[molten cloud]

hiting like 7 or 50 dmg

[ornate gust]

True. I didn’t play this season and our other warrior switched to Ret

[molten cloud]

singel digdget

[compact knot]

1 digit at lvl 73

does not seem right

xdd

[molten cloud]

nope

feel like am tat squiz a bit to hard

[digital mauve]

I feel if they dont further buff fury in the next couple of days I'll switch to ret

[compact knot]

lol...

[digital mauve]

But I still wanna hit 3.4 rio with my fury

[molten cloud]

malay and ebbi is carryin my ass

[compact knot]

ret baiting people

good to see

[still silo]

Raid teams should be able to pick up the slack of one low ST warrior

And not have them reroll at this point in the season

Sure maybe 2 3 weeks ago

[onyx belfry]

so what do we think slayer will outperform mountain in m+ ?

[compact knot]

if you arent in a top 50 guild you can just play whatever you want

[still silo]

Yeah basically

[warm crag]

why perform like shit when you could perform well in a quick reroll

[steel shard]

i would just reroll unh dk

(i am)

[warm crag]

but yeah play what you want unless you are constrained by guild wr needs

[still silo]

Because then your part of the problem

[warm crag]

define the problem

[still silo]

The problem of class switching for meta purposes

Ruins the game

[steel shard]

how

does it ruin the game

[molten cloud]

all good now @compact knot was to hard stat squiz at 73 but all good at 74 lol

[still silo]

Because it’s then expected

[molten cloud]

from 12k hp to 49k hp

[steel shard]

yea?

[still silo]

Are you in a hall of fame guild?

[steel shard]

i mean if you want to do the highest keys/best damage

you have to fotm reroll

fame is top 200 thats nothing

[still silo]

So are you?

[gleaming siren]

A bit more than a HoF guild

slightly

[warm crag]

whether you're in a hof guild or not doesnt change the drive of players to want to contribute the maximum they can contribute

[still silo]

I don’t have a clue what that guild is but yeah if you are in a HoF guild then yes meta matters

[steel shard]

i am not lmao i am just a social in there for guild crafts

i have not raided since idk

[still silo]

Yes and no, everyone has something they bring regardless of dps

[steel shard]

dragonflight aberrus

[warm crag]

its fine that you don't have that drive but its weird that you assign value to others goals

[steel shard]

now i just pug mythic with friends

[gleaming siren]

If you think 'meta' doesn't matter outside of HoF you're either misinformed or just wrong

[steel shard]

i think it is weird to reroll if you are like above the middle

[still silo]

It does in M+ sure

[steel shard]

but warrior is arguably

the WORST class in the raid atm

[warm crag]

okay but if i bring more as one class than the other then i will bring the other if it means my impact on my guilds progress is bigger

[gleaming siren]

Having better classes also matters in world rank narnia but maybe you're not ready for that conversation yet

[still silo]

It is, but their buff and utility is nice to have I guess, if you don’t have a prot warrior that is

[compact knot]

if guardian and resto where not so fucking op i would say druid

[gleaming siren]

Boomie is highkey not bad

[compact knot]

dps classes druid probably beats us slightly at being shit

boomie seems fine

sometimes

[gleaming siren]

Nah Boomie is actually just

pretty good

[still silo]

Boomie is just really good atm

[compact knot]

a couple of spread cleave fights

[still silo]

For padding

[steel shard]

like honestly

if you think rerolling from the worst class for the raid is bad

[worthy yarrow]

meh

[steel shard]

idk what to tell you

[worthy yarrow]

rogue

[still silo]

I just hate rerolling culture tbh

[steel shard]

you are activly

making the raid performence worse

[still silo]

Zugzug or uninstall

[warm crag]

you are free to hate it but its still weird to tell people they're problematic for it

you are free to enjoy the game however you want as anyone else is

[still silo]

Trueee

[tight flax]

You just want to do the best for your friends and team.

Its sort of that simple.

[steel shard]

das right

[tight flax]

Because, at least in my case, there are people around me that I care about that I play with.

[still silo]

Same here, but my warrior isn’t the reason we wipe 😂

[tight flax]

And I have to ask myself, am I being selfish playing what I like when 10, 20, whatever people are around you playing better classes that can further the groups goal.

[tight flax]

I mean, that IS true, that's fair.

But I, as a person, have a hard time reconciling with the fact that I could be doing better, and that my choices on class is a weight.

Maybe that's a bit dramatic, I'm not sure.

But it feels like that.

[still silo]

Fair enough we don’t have crazy speed times, but every class can easily finish this tiers content

Just not at maximum efficiency

[warm crag]

if you're under wr whatever 2 digit number you wanna come up with the answer is no

[tight flax]

I don't think Blizzard should sit there and be like "Well, a lot of warriors feel like a burden, but that's okay."

I feel like that's a bad plan, lol.

[steel shard]

sure but warrior is getting mega boosted on the last 2 bosses

like you dont even know how bad it is

[still silo]

Oh yeah I bet

[tight flax]

Also, I'm sorry Jake I don't want to be yet another person piling on you, lmao.

[warm crag]

pile on @oblique trail

[tight flax]

😂

[still silo]

I don’t mind haha

It’s a friendly discussion

No hate here

[tight flax]

I've heard that the class balance team is actually small, but I can't confirm it. Its a little shocking to me, because I think on average people's biggest attachment to WoW is through their class.

The fact that so many classes, not just ours, is so out of whack it feels a little odd.

Like, I would place these sort of class things as a high priority over there, because if you feel worthless then everything tends to fall down with that.

[warm crag]

tends to happen at the company that fires all their qa

[oblique trail]

8% strength for 15 seconds

many more words

4p bonus

[still silo]

Blizzard is a small indie company what you on about

They don’t have the resources

[tight flax]

Its true

[still silo]

😂

[tight flax]

I don't know, I'll remain hopeful but I am very attached to my character, and my character is a fury warrior, so I am hard pressed to swap, its a weird hangup I have.

But I know that sort of harms my guild at large sometimes and it sucks.

Even if they say its fine.

[still silo]

The only thing I did this season was learn arms and switched because it felt cleaner than MT

[warm crag]

either your guild is good enough to build a roster that sits you or it doesn't matter for your level of progression

[still silo]

But now slayer might be back

So I might switch back

[split elk]

definitely on st

[tight flax]

We're for the most part fine, We push to +17's each season, we get AoTC, and that's good enough for us.

[split elk]

in m+ we will see

[warm crag]

oh yeah then your class choice quite literally does not matter

click which characters you enjoy and blast away

[tight flax]

But it does emotionally. I think you're disconnecting player feeling from like, the raw mathematics of clearing content.

You don't want to sit at the bottom even if it doesn't matter, it feels bad, its hard to pull that "I could be doing more" out of some peoples heads.

[warm crag]

hc and the level of keys you are doing are not constructed in a way to require meta comps or even good performance

[sour pollen]

is class changess live wednesday EU ?

[warm crag]

ye

[sour pollen]

ty

[tight flax]

I get it, I guess

[still silo]

Warrior sucks even harder in HC because the adds die too quick

It feels bad that we rely on adds

[eternal sundial]

the only way to parse HC is boosts anyways

[lucid bloom]

adds die quick in mythic nowadays

[eternal sundial]

idk dawg

[mystic kayak]

Is fury gonna be better than arms now again? Seems like Arms is still gonna be a bit better since they are already better and fury only getting a 2%ish stronger ST buff compared to them

[still silo]

In raid or M+?

[mystic kayak]

Raid

[still silo]

Fury was always better in raid

[split elk]

in m+ its arms for sure

[still silo]

Unless you colossus greed on bosses

[split elk]

in raid its probably gonna be a bit better fury, depends on boss

[mystic kayak]

I don't think logs prove that

on most boss fights arms is above fury

[still silo]

Yes because they greed colossus

They will have paid for that

I wouldn’t take that as gospel, colossus does outperform on 2 bosses

[warm crag]

ever since the myth? week buffs you probably shouldve been playing arms on everything

but also "everything" means you are benched after paladins so

not too much discourse on what you should play after that when most good players rerolled or are sat

[still silo]

I believe we will see more buffs HOLD THE LINE

I BELIEVE

[warm crag]

wouldnt be too optimistic

these buffs are probably "good enough" until .7

[still silo]

hey at least we didn’t crumble like the hunter class discords 😂

[tight flax]

Listen, just need to roll Diablo 4 Barbarian

Get your fix in for fury that way

[still silo]

You mean PoE2 right?

Diablo doesn’t exists

[tight flax]

Oh come on, latest expac is good haha

[warm crag]

im already playing pink class but i can't find tyrael's jurisdiction

[still silo]

😜

[tight flax]

SoonTM

That said Spongie is right I am really enjoying fury so I'm sticking with it since we're clearing the content we do

[still silo]

100%

[tight flax]

But that doesn't help people who push further, lol

[still silo]

If you enjoy it, you play it

Yeah but we are getting weekly raid buffs now so it will become a non issue

Don’t die and do mechanics and you’ll be alright

[tight flax]

click buttons until the angry man lights up

[still silo]

I’d always rather have a good warrior who listens and does mechanics, than a UHDK that does 200k dps but fucks up

Remember

IF IT GLOWS IT GOES

[tight flax]

[red berry]

tbh the buffs we got aren’t small so

idk if we’ll get more

[still silo]

I mean uhdk and devoured got ten percent buffs while they were already top dps

So I wouldn’t rule it out

In the last patch anyway

[red berry]

weren’t they technically just bug fixes

[still silo]

No they get proper buffs then they did a bug fix

[clever belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-fbi-police-police-cat-fbi-cat-gif-1256429038097351888

[south lintel]

My warrior feels good when bladestorming oh wait wrong game

[oblique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-fbi-police-police-cat-fbi-cat-gif-1256429038097351888

[tiny seal]

Atleast were doing good in one game

Spin2win in diablo hella fun too

[south lintel]

For real!!!

[idle island]

Are the buffs to slayer going to make it a lot better than Thane?

Currently I prefer thane but just curious if anyone knew.

Edit: I just saw the warrior update channel. That is helpful.

[lone goblet]

feels like these buffs with the bugfix won't change much we're still gonna be benched for most bosses

but it's a step in the right direction I guess

[still silo]

Prefer thane 😧

[slim coral]

Use corrupted ashbringer instead

[odd agate]

You can definitely do more than 150k with current tuning in a 19 pos.

[steel shard]

if i invited a warrior and i saw he was fury i would insta kick ngl

[coarse nest]

wtf!? This looks so sick dude!

[dim spindle]

We still dooming?

scrolls up

We still dooming.

Looks pretty good to me. My hopium stash has been replenished a bit

[stoic echo]

Yeah just buff #500

Still not #1 DPS so dooming

[warm crag]

arms buff might make it ok for raid but prog is kinda over so

[dim spindle]

That seems to be it

[stoic echo]

And once we're #1 people doom

Can't win over the doomers

[dim spindle]

And top specs got nerfed a bit... yeah I'd say these are pretty reasonable adjustments for the moment

But I'm also speaking as an m+ enjoyer/retired raider

[vague copper]

Servers fucked?

[coarse nest]

Arms lura p3 ownage

[bitter palm]

huge for lura no

arms was already gapping

[warm crag]

huge for lura (bring someone else)

[coarse nest]

Overpowering Finish goes hard

[steel shard]

bring another unh dk

[dim spindle]

I'd bet at least 2 dollars that UH discord is dooming right now

[stoic loom]

the unh dks in my guild certainly are

apparently blizzard hates unh dk mains

[dim spindle]

But we'll show them. We can out doom ANYBODY!

[stoic loom]

(ignore the fact unh dk been meta for 2 years)

[dim spindle]

Ok, maybe not Pallies

And the regulars on the OFFICIAL wow class forums are stiff competition, but we can do it!

They break down in tears sooner than we will. because we RAGE

[eternal sundial]

1.6% 😭 im crine

[dim spindle]

DK no dmg

Someone should make a fresh DK casket meme for them

We can loan it out, museum style

[supple glen]

ARE WE BACK

[dusty cove]

Are the upcoming changes likely to change much in terms of which spec is better for certain fights?

[supple glen]

no you still have to put up with fury gameplay

[dusty cove]

😂

[glad hill]

Any TLDR on what we should be bonus rolling for if we dont myth raid?

[wise cave]

What droptimizer tells you to.

[fresh cave]

with the upcoming buffs will we go back to raging blow spam or will we keep bloodthisting ?

[hazy girder]

thats some sexy buffs coming for us

[abstract tulip]

did we manifest the buffs

[floral bay]

any (mythic) fights that we are likely to see slayer on next reset?

[supple glen]

pit of saron gives very nice gear for arms and doesnt have any real shit items for fury at least

[abstract tulip]

I told all of you that slayer fury is the hidden tech, you thought I was wrong, you hated me

[bitter palm]

rb is still dogshit

[fresh cave]

[lusty perch]

Magisters Terrace for fury, Pit for Arms

Then Seat after you get what you want from those

For the gloves from seat. IMO

[fresh cave]

seat is pretty decent imo , gloves and myth track pieces that can be converted to tier

[surreal linden]

Slayer for raid next week?

[spring fox]

Probably still thane for sustained MT like paladins. Probably slayer for burst adds

[fresh cave]

so, no slayer lmao

[spring fox]

Most bosses don't have constant adds. Quick burn down then focus on boss

[tranquil chasm]

Are there any estimates yet on the overall size of the buff in keys? On slayer vs MT in keys? (I prefer the slayer play style of last season over the MT one of this season).

[lofty seal]

voracious and drags for sur slayer

[fresh cave]

dragons line up pretty good for thane cds tho

and it's pretty much constant cleave

[surreal linden]

You can argue beloren for slayer too

[quiet geyser]

Belo for sure slayer

[undone flower]

I think anything on beloren

After reset

Just survive second bird phase whatever dogshit comp

[jagged sorrel]

So, i have a weird question idk if anyone properly looked at this

does wrecking throw "overflow" damage if a shield breaks with it ?

like, target has a 10k shield and wrecking throw is hitting for 500k~ normally so will it just deal 490k to his hp ?

or does the dmg to hp gets reduced to normal non-shiielded value ?

[shell parcel]

I haven’t looked at logs or anything like that but from my experience no it does not

I hit the gargoyle a a bunch of times in pit when the shield was low enough and it didn’t chunk the hp as it chunks the shield

[jagged sorrel]

yeah thats exactly the kinda cenario i'm trying to figure out, if it's worth using on shields that have little remaining

but its hard to properly test this

[maiden ingot]

Never paid attention to it. But I wouldn't be surprised if it only chunks the Shielded portion of health as necessary and normalize the rest. Blizzard, afterall, hates when you can use your brain to maximize things apparently.

Should be very easy to practically test with the help of a buddy on a Class/Specc with sizeable absorbs available though. Same behavior between PvE/PvP afaik

[wise cave]

From my experience, that damage amp ONLY applies to the shield, and does not carry over.

That's probably testable easily in those new obelisks, tons of little mobs that toss up big shields.

[echo scarab]

were people already number crunching this tuning?

[maiden ingot]

There's probably always somebody doing so personally or people trying to do it in here. As for "official" Skyhold/Theorycrafter crunching, think Archi mentioned they'll possibly do it over the Weekend. Either way, we'll have that info before it goes live.

Also there's the usual preliminary assessment in Updates.

[echo scarab]

oh right ima dumbass

[radiant plank]

@echo scarab

[echo scarab]

bless

[scarlet swift]

Still not worth, still a thaniac

[coral kite]

hello there would like to ask do you think guys that fury will be better from arms with the upcoming patch?

[distant spindle]

guys can someone explain me that

Mountain Thane: Ground Current damage increased by 50%.

what does ground damage mean? i don´t get it

[scarlet swift]

Google exists

[frail kernel]

if M+ team doesnt have a shaman, is Fury better than Arms?

[surreal linden]

The million dollar question everyone wants to kno

[coral kite]

true

[vestal root]

So anyone got any good m+ runs with rampaging ruin or still a meme?

[vestal root]

No they will still have different playstyle, you can play both, arms still has higher ceiling probably even after buff

I dont think fury can still hit colo arms overalls

[coral kite]

but which one is noob friendly?

[vestal root]

Fury

Slayer arms is pretty easy too though

Thane fury is braindeadge mode

[coral kite]

but thane is better i think for m+

[vestal root]

But slayer fury and arms are similar in difficulty i guess

[vestal root]

General play? Yeah

[uneven path]

Surely I will manage to get one

[vestal root]

Never gonna happen laazy we know that

Your RB build boutta pop off

[uneven path]

Yeh can't wait for Wednesday

So RB boss tunnelling as slury

[vestal root]

Slur them hard, bossman

[fiery edge]

yo are we back?

[dense elbow]

We never left

[fiery edge]

nvm, arms is more back

wait rampage ruin

[dense elbow]

Meh, I still gonna top dps in my keys after the buffs, so it is fine

[random shadow]

not sure about arms being more back since its more slayer buffs for arms then col

[lament bison]

when do buffs go live?

[random shadow]

why does prot warrior thane get the damage buff but not fury thane smh

[random shadow]

tuseday

[dense elbow]

Same time as every time, Jug

Wensday

[random shadow]

ok you filthy eu

[lament bison]

lawl

ty

[dense elbow]

NA scum

[random shadow]

go back to your pond

no, go to bed

[tardy lark]

its like, early evening in eu

[random shadow]

exactly go to bed

[dense elbow]

Pond?

What is funny is that ppl say EU, but I aint EU, I am living in Europe tho. Not part of the silly EU tho silly EU ppl, only sweeds and Danes are silly enough to join

[turbid spruce]

The buffs in raging blow will affect the priority list?

[fickle dirge]

Archi says he doesn’t expect it to change

[random shadow]

20% of a wet noodle is still a wet noodle

[vestal root]

colo didnt really need that much buffs its still the strongest warrior m+ spec

arms still gets OP dmg increase nevertheless

[random shadow]

ST buffs would be nice

MS buff wouldve been sick, exe doesnt do much for COl anyways, OP isnt bad but MS nice

[vestal root]

execute and OP are bit of ST buff but i get ya

[random shadow]

wasnt hoping for CS cdr to be increased to 5 ssecs for the memes or anything