Not sure
#fury
uneven path
olive wraith
That version would pair with thane very well
uneven path
Yeh I know, idk I am just big fan of Slayer I guess
Sad they shot Arms slayer into head
I was ready to swap
olive wraith
Current slayer is better than s2 Df imo
olive wraith
Fury as a whole does lol
indigo arch
olive wraith
Bring back mfe
uneven path
Like I was playing Demo lock.... like why does that thing has good singel/prio and cleaves like crazy
unkempt oasis
We don't need tuning. We need a deathwing onesie. Obviously.
uneven path
But they are scared to buff our singel
olive wraith
We don't need tuning. We need a deathwing onesie. Obviously.
Deathwing onesie fucks so hard though
edgy widget
We don't need tuning. We need a deathwing onesie. Obviously.
don't you dare malign the deathwing onesie
I will not stand for that kind of slander
olive wraith
But they are scared to buff our singel
I don’t think they’re scared. They’re just lost on what to do with is imo
Think that’s a common opinion but idk
unkempt oasis
flat river
olive wraith
Who’s got death wing onesie weapon mog ideas
uneven path
Who’s got death wing onesie weapon mog ideas
The small mace ?
olive wraith
Lost me at small
olive wraith
I’ll probably run it with asscandy or gorehowl at first
uneven path
I’ll probably run it with asscandy or gorehowl at first
This ?
olive wraith
Meh kinda don’t like maces in general honestly
uneven path
Wait so what weapon are we talking about ?
uneven path
Oh
dim spindle
Wowhead
These "people" are awful and should feel bad. I'm getting the damn DW onesie asap and I'm not even into transmog
worn yoke
Deathwing onesie the world.
edgy widget
holding out for the irl version
fresh jasper
Not running gurthylax weapon mog with a deathwing onesie is treason
smoky vale
whats the deathwing onesie
snow edge
whats the deathwing onesie
smoky vale
oo
dim spindle
Who’s got death wing onesie weapon mog ideas
How about some claws of some kind
There has to be claws of a darker shade
dim spindle
Good point, why no 2h claws Blizz?
They just have to be huge
Nonsensical I know but... rule of cool
keen kindle
Wowhead
Lemee do you one better
(I assume M+ templates are M+ gear templates kinda like what pvp had in bfa)
...I do agree with bringing back scrolls thou
seriously please
keen kindle
Scrolls are items that granted slightly watered down versions of raid buffs
So like
if you have a physical comp without a warrior you can pop a shout scroll, but it's like 2% weaker then the real deal
keen kindle
Basically yeah
They were only added for BFA and then shot for Shadowlands
But fuck man they were convient, espically for keys
I'd genuinely kill for a skyfury scroll
olive wraith
Idk I feel like that wouldn’t really fix anything
warm crag
victory at last
slim coral
daring badge
Yup
bold carbon
lean heart
ALHAMDULILLAH
keen kindle
Those fury buffs are YUGE
olive wraith
Not bad. I’ll take it
balmy shore
HELLO
olive wraith
This kinda gives us status quo. Thane good aoe slayer good prio
undone flower
narrow kiln
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
uneven path
@olive wraith Slayer so back
olive wraith
Sorry @dense elbow
lean heart
REAP DA STORM 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
olive wraith
Maybe slayer can finally play rb talents
uneven path
Maybe slayer can finally play rb talents
And exe should be giga now right ?
uneven path
SD ?
fleet garden
buffs let's goooooooooooo 
turbid spruce
my feelingcraft is saying that fury will do more dam than arms again, 5% all is a lot.
modest condor
30% reap buff is wild
stoic loom
WE ARE SAVED
olive wraith
Wonder if this puts exe higher than bt
tulip tundra
there is a god
fleet garden
olive wraith
my feelingcraft is saying that fury will do more dam than arms again, 5% all is ...
That’s not even the big part lmao
uneven path
30% reap buff is wild
Interesting choice
olive wraith
5% aura is typically like 3-4% overall
drowsy heron
LETS FUCKING GO, BUFFS!!!!!!!!!!
hot chasm
im so back
drowsy heron
Does the RB buffs mean RB is back?!?!?!?!?1
olive wraith
Does the RB buffs mean RB is back?!?!?!?!?1
Surely
fickle dirge
Ok I need sims asap
drowsy heron
hope this means Slayer can go RB build
limpid tide
we are so back
olive wraith
Ya it’ll be nice to have rb prio slayer
visual vale
eh
balmy shore
uneven path
@olive wraith Wait
drowsy heron
RB build = Surge is back which means more ST damage
uneven path
Hear me out
west parcel
uneven path
RB build = Surge is back which means more ST damage
THey bufed slayers strikes by 40%
So more attack speed
Is more SS
olive wraith
Ya
uneven path
Wait are we gonna do singel now ?>
lean heart
the 30% reap buff is crazy
olive wraith
Pretty sure rb is back
olive wraith
the 30% reap buff is crazy
Facts lmao
uneven path
Reap will get shot next week
spare steppe
I’m curious to see how much the RB buff shakes stuff up
lean heart
Reap will get shot next week
mods kill this guy
uneven path
drowsy heron
Reap will get shot next week
it was already shot with the 12.0.5 changes lol
olive wraith
30% is kinda of a lot isn’t it
drowsy heron
this is just bringing it a little back to life
olive wraith
it was already shot with the 12.0.5 changes lol
Not really
quiet geyser
so like, do we just play slayer for everything now lol
that seems absolutely massive for slayer
drowsy heron
idk
spare steppe
I’m super curious to see the numbers though
olive wraith
Idk man
drowsy heron
doubt it but its possible
olive wraith
I’m not smart
drowsy heron
i definitely think this makes it better for Raid tho
fleet garden
The programmers will get it done in a few days, let them coooook
olive wraith
Waiting on Archi
uneven path
I love me some slayer
quiet geyser
we go back to RB build on slayer, with huge execute buff, and huge slayer strike and AoE buff
dude
slayer is gonna be busted
AND IM ALL FOR IT
upper mica
Its all early game... but RB build possibly back
drowsy heron
fuck i REALLY hope this means RB Slayer is back
upper mica
Yeah its not live yet... give it time
quiet geyser
fuck i REALLY hope this means RB Slayer is back
it does
uneven path
AND IM ALL FOR IT
If we have good gamba on SD, we will go nuts
quiet geyser
fuck i REALLY hope this means RB Slayer is back
with BT no longer being tied to reap, theres legit nothing making slayer want to press BT except it doing more damage
which shouldnt be the case anymore
wind token
its so back
drowsy heron
well, i hope we still press it occasionally
sullen dove
devourer nerfed
drowsy heron
wouldnt want a button to be COMPLETELY ignored
lean heart
they should nerf DDH another 7 times to make sure
drowsy heron
my motivation to play has SKYROCKETED with these patch notes
nova vessel
slayer rampage rng still bad tho
wind token
?
olive wraith
It’s the same as bt lol
hushed walrus
frail prism
drowsy heron
It’s the same as bt lol
i thought BT was like 30%? Ramp currently is 20%
olive wraith
i thought BT was like 30%? Ramp currently is 20%
No
upper mica
Let theorycrafters cook guys.... but this bodes really well
untold shale
i cant wait to do hella dmg to open world content now cuz i already benched my warrior and swapped
quiet geyser
slayer is going to be juiced.. like i actually think this might be a lil too juiced lol
drowsy heron
Too juiced is better than no juice
fleet garden
As long as Thane doesn't catch any strays we have a good backup plan
modest condor
definitely not too juiced
vernal mulch
afaik the deep wounds bug did not affect sims so arms was doing more damage than sims
i think bis to bis mt fury 1t5m is a bit higher than slarms
@olive wraith
drowsy heron
As long as Thane doesn't catch any strays we have a good backup plan
Thane got a tiny buff
static bison
CAN I PLAY FURY ON KEYS NOW? FUCK ARMS DUDE I HATE IT SOO MUCH
sullen dove
beloren and crown also shot
modest condor
i mean the thane specific buffs arent big but with the 5% aura buff on top it's still respectable
sullen dove
its actually wildly impressive how 1 single line makes beloren like 2x easier
balmy shore
wish they waited on raid nerfs by 2 weeks
sullen dove
yea
uneven path
i mean the thane specific buffs arent big but with the 5% aura buff on top it's ...
RB buffs will also help a bit right ?
frozen scarab
was there tuning announced?
fleet garden
Thane got a tiny buff
Yeah, I meant if blizzard has an aneurysm at seeing warriors doing good with Slayer thane can be the backup
sullen dove
i just killed this week
balmy shore
til hof close at least
sullen dove
dont let people kill it easier
i mean hof beloren is over technically over 200 for that
lura still untouched
xeos when he lies
visual vale
CAN I PLAY FURY ON KEYS NOW? FUCK ARMS DUDE I HATE IT SOO MUCH
isnt thane good for M+ rn?
modest condor
its actually wildly impressive how 1 single line makes beloren like 2x easier
33% more time to dps the egg lol
visual vale
i dont like arms gameplay too
modest condor
literally impossible to fail the dps check now
drowsy heron
isnt thane good for M+ rn?
Thane is basiaclly good in everything atm, cause Slayer isnt that much stronger ST
visual vale
actually i really love fury thane, and i dont like syncing problems with fury slayer(bladestorm and reck)
or there is no sync problems and im doing smth wrong?
teal slate
isnt thane good for M+ rn?
I'm only 3350 io but still doing alright ish as fury
frozen scarab
where do you guys find these 😭
slim coral
where do you guys find these 😭
wowhead
teal slate
Bluepost tracker is also a good site
I remember using mmo-champ for all my blue post needs
stoic loom
hell yeah buffs
rich flame
Can't wait to slay next week 💅
stoic loom
altho does anyone else find it funny that mm wasnt great for one week and it instantly gets buffed again?
uneven path
@vestal root Our RB build is back on the menu
frozen scarab
did mm hunter need those buffs wtf
sly merlin
yea
spring fox
Raging blow buffs!!!
echo rapids
Are we back!?!?!
spare steppe
<@159738042859520001> Our RB build is back on the menu
Wait is this the one with the AA damage
uneven path
Wait is this the one with the AA damage
Yeh I was fucking around with RB builds like 3-4 days ago
stoic loom
Yeh I was fucking around with RB builds like 3-4 days ago
did u manage to make it hit for more than 20k?
hybrid cargo
LETS GOOO BOIS
frozen scarab
we can have fun now
uneven path
did u manage to make it hit for more than 20k?
Nope xdd
hybrid cargo
slayer gonna be crazy now yea?
stoic loom
slayer gonna be crazy now yea?
probably not going to go crazy
but i feelycraft its gonna be playable
hybrid cargo
but like vs MT
mint moat
how much does ground current make up for dmg?
hybrid cargo
on st
stoic loom
but like vs MT
ye this should close the gap a lot
with slayer pulling ahead on ST at least
uneven path
@stoic loom I was thinking that the RB needed like 20 more % for the build to be actually good
hybrid cargo
at lest they will have deffinitive identitys slayer RB mt BT
red berry
i mean the thane specific buffs arent big but with the 5% aura buff on top it's ...
im late but the indirect buff to thunder blast is nice on top of the 5% yeah
shy bronze
Yeha, the nerfed RB way too much at the start of the xpac
red berry
not that 50% to ground current is big but
shy bronze
Im happy to get that ground current buff for tanking. Every little bit helps
stiff carbon
Back to slayer? 😄
shy bronze
Might actaully change the prot build to take the execute cleave again
quiet geyser
Back to slayer? 😄
considering adds blow up so fast at this point anyways, yes. Slayer will be most likely the go to for everything
shy bronze
thane should still be better in aoe, but it wont be too far off with the rend and reap changes
thorny sparrow
With the buff to RB is it back in the rotation priority? I hit it often enough anyway as it's often the only button left but now it won't feel like a button left maybe?
shy bronze
Yay! TWW rotation is back!
thorny sparrow
I was including Thane there as RB is the very last in the priority list still but we avoid as many RB talents as possible but it may no longer be efficient
At least I'm asking if this means RB talents are no longer to be avoided too and talent trees need a rehaul
balmy shore
magic prairie
WARRIOR BUFFF RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
kind halo
I'm an arms enjoyer but i secretly hope Slayer fury will be ahead of Slayer arms so i can use it in some keys
gusty plover
olive wraith
Yay! TWW rotation is back!
Nah it’s not
brave thorn
20% rb is still trash
kind halo
Yay! TWW rotation is back!
sadly you need the bonus set for that
balmy shore
holding until someone tells me numbers :3
modest condor
holding until someone tells me numbers :3
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
uneven path
Like the 5% aura, exe, reap and SS buffs should be kinda big hopium injection for slury
modest condor
any other numbers you want me to tell you?
robust widget
any other numbers you want me to tell you?
yes please
modest condor
6 7
thorny sparrow
I'm an arms enjoyer but i secretly hope Slayer fury will be ahead of Slayer arms...
It's probably going to be fury as arms doesn't get the flat all damage 5% buff that Fury is getting and the percentage gap is less than that already and with fury ahead in cases
balmy shore
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
yes the warrior ones thank u :3
spark coral
mah god we're eating good
twin hazel
Time to put the noodles away
hybrid cargo
time to fire up the slayer build and hit a dummy XD
olive wraith
time to fire up the slayer build and hit a dummy XD
Next week
vernal mulch
how much overall % buff did slayer fury get ?
drowsy heron
i just wanna know if its going to change our build for slayer, I WANT RB BACK
vernal mulch
like everything combined what does it add up to
olive wraith
how much overall % buff did slayer fury get ?
Wait and see
vernal mulch
oh do we not have the numbers yet
jagged plover
lets lvl up a war i guess
fleet garden
oh do we not have the numbers yet
The programmers need time and snacks. Please hold 🥓
fickle dirge
We need to check the rb build and new rotation but I am just guessing %12 st for slayer fury
vernal mulch
Pretty sure they have to check rb build
lmao? without tww tier and so much of our kit revolving around bt i doubt it changes
gusty plover
Buffs are happenig on reset day
vernal mulch
We need to check the rb build and new rotation but I am just guessing %12 st for...
12% god damn
lmfaoooo
wind token
just geared for arms last 2 weeks xdd dont really care which as long as warrior owns
olive wraith
lmao? without tww tier and so much of our kit revolving around bt i doubt it cha...
It revolves around bt cause rb was nerfed to the ground
gusty plover
Arms is also getting buff
quiet geyser
20% rb is still trash
its not at all
olive wraith
whats our RB build look like?
Dunno yet
gusty plover
thorny jewel
Yay for buffs! RB buff is fine, but I almost never use RB this season, everything else sounds great.
olive wraith
Yay for buffs! RB buff is fine, but I almost never use RB this season, everythin...
Because it’s bad rn lol
vernal mulch
The programmers need time and snacks. Please hold 🥓
how does the process work? is it like going to the sim and updating the number values and rerunning?
echo rapids
Yay for buffs! RB buff is fine, but I almost never use RB this season, everythin...
I mean we do still cast a good number of raging blows even as thane
fleet garden
how does the process work? is it like going to the sim and updating the number v...
They play around with ability priority, talents, numbers, etc. it's more work then you'd think
echo rapids
At least outside of reck
wind token
yeah we get a decent rb buff as mt
vernal mulch
They play around with ability priority, talents, numbers, etc. it's more work th...
is it like altering numbers on the api and rerunning the sim? to get the % number increase with the current talent/rotation prio
undone flower
You don’t know if there is a new rotation or not
shell parcel
are we back? or is it still joever?
wind token
You don’t know if there is a new rotation or not
the only diffy will be the instead of wrecking throw and rend uptime you just send rb
thorny jewel
I mean we do still cast a good number of raging blows even as thane
Just got my first Heroic Falls kill, RB and CB was 7% vs 18% for BB/BT
fleet garden
are we back? or is it still joever?
We are at least eating a lot better then this week
vernal mulch
i assume the programmers have to recalculate rotation prio with the changed numbers?
vernal mulch
They play around with ability priority, talents, numbers, etc. it's more work th...
yea ofc. im curious how the process works cuz i have no idea 🙂
echo rapids
What’s the thane ST napkin math? 5% flat, half a percent from RB and execute each?
echo rapids
Just got my first Heroic Falls kill, RB and CB was 7% vs 18% for BB/BT
I mean it doesn’t hit hard but it’s a moderate amount of our global
fleet garden
Someone said 5% aura typically only ends up as 3 to 4% actual
vernal mulch
You don’t know if there is a new rotation or not
well i assume its something the programmers will have to run a few tests and calculate right? but yea i dont know that yet. just said that responding to ppl saying shit about having to recalculate the rb build
echo rapids
Someone said 5% aura typically only ends up as 3 to 4% actual
How’s that?
fickle dirge
Someone said 5% aura typically only ends up as 3 to 4% actual
That generally happens because there are some damage that is not caused by our abilites
magic prairie
when will they make Rampaging Ruin be available on m+
fickle dirge
For example the seat hands and ring set
modest condor
auto attacks arent affected by aura buffs for one
echo rapids
Auto attacks? Procs?
modest condor
neither are cantrip effects, enchants and trinkets
vernal mulch
auto attacks arent affected by aura buffs for one
o interesting
toxic pivot
can we play slayer m+????
echo rapids
So maybe 6% st?
olive wraith
So maybe 6% st?
More if I had to guess
echo rapids
I have no idea how much ground current does
echo rapids
Yeah
modest condor
thane 5% slayer a bit more than 10%
echo rapids
Scenes when the RB buff lets slayer go back to RB talents
echo rapids
thane 5% slayer a bit more than 10%
Oh that’s more than I thought for slayer
uneven path
Slayer RB, Thane BT.... world is healing 
modest condor
execute and slayer strike are big
uneven path
execute and slayer strike are big
Will the exe buff move with prio for MT ?
echo rapids
execute and slayer strike are big
More power in the RNG side of slayer?
olive wraith
Will the exe buff move with prio for MT ?
Maybe
modest condor
Will the exe buff move with prio for MT ?
doubt it
modest condor
it's already fairly high prio
brittle crow
finally i get to play annihilator again welcome back dragonflight s2
unkempt dagger
can we play slayer m+????
im pushing resi 18 and i play exclusivly slayer in m+
magic prairie
can we play slayer m+????
hoping
echo rapids
Yeah the “play what you want” threshold is a lot higher this season
unkempt dagger
exactly
its more like, push with group instead of pugging type of season sadly
i mean for me its not sadly, its lovely, found a nice group to run with
keys went from 120 blood pressure to like 60 and laughing
olive wraith
finally i get to play annihilator again welcome back dragonflight s2
S3*
drowsy heron
im pushing resi 18 and i play exclusivly slayer in m+
you pugging or in a M+ group?
unkempt dagger
m+ group
unkempt dagger
i got to resi 16 full pug tho, thats when i met the people i play with rn
olive wraith
Oh rip rb build
lusty jungle
Down with wizards up with barbarians
balmy shore
thank u archimtiros
surreal wedge
it's already fairly high prio
am I looking at the wrong guide then? WoWhead shows exe as prio only over raging blow for MT
sorry, that's in cooldowns, it' only above RB and thunderclap lol
modest condor
the only abilities that are higher are bt (obviously), thunderblast (which is a proc) and rampage with the right conditions (duh)
scarlet swift
Guys what does it say, I’m on mobile
modest condor
it says you can fit the whole family
spare flame
maybe with those buffs we wont be rock bottom dps in ST? 🙏
olive wraith
Guys what does it say, I’m on mobile
surreal wedge
maybe with those buffs we wont be rock bottom dps in ST? 🙏
poor shamans might have gotten their buff overwritten by a bug fix so
floral wasp
my first cutting edge
high echo
@edgy widget in the #updates-midnight does 'Ruin' mean Rampaging Ruin talent?
undone flower
GG
floral wasp
at 4am on a workday mind u
unkempt dagger
my first cutting edge
lets fuckin GO BRO
olive wraith
<@61282228017041408> in the <#1234949058121171069> does 'Ruin' mean Rampaging Ru...
Yes
floral wasp
a pug group with no curve
unkempt dagger
LETS FOOOOKEN GO
olive wraith
at 4am on a workday mind u
Not na
floral wasp
EU brother
warped bone
my first cutting edge
Congrats dude!
olive wraith
EU brother
Where is Blizz
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> in the <#1234949058121171069> does 'Ruin' mean Rampaging Ru...
what else would it mean?
undone flower
<@61282228017041408> in the <#1234949058121171069> does 'Ruin' mean Rampaging Ru...
Yes
olive wraith
high echo
what else would it mean?
I was curious because its not picked in any of the fury aoe builds as far as im aware
thin scroll
i hope this will push fury closer to arms in viability
olive wraith
Good news
thin scroll
really hated rerollin to arms
olive wraith
They’re both viable already
edgy widget
I was curious because its not picked in any of the fury aoe builds as far as im ...
cause it's more trouble than it's worth
drowsy heron
damn so no RB builds?
floral wasp
my first cutting edge
35wipes
thin scroll
They’re both viable already
noone invited me on fury sadly
opaque mortar
I dont hate arms now that im playing it more, but fury is def my preference
olive wraith
noone invited me on fury sadly
Doesn’t make it not viable
thin scroll
ppl just look at tierlists
opaque mortar
fury just feels smoother
olive wraith
Tier lists are fake wcyd
thin scroll
but if i need resil i wont spam and reroll other 17s whole time
undone flower
unless own keys
thin scroll
took me like 2 hrs to get into 17 alge even tho i got all others on 17 already
sad life
olive wraith
Dps is the hardest role to get invites
thin scroll
with UH and Aug its pretty simple :p
drowsy heron
took me like 2 hrs to get into 17 alge even tho i got all others on 17 already
PUGing as Warrior in a nutshell lol
past flax
Im 4/8 on 17s and I do struggle getting invited as well
floral wasp
yea cuz its fucking crowded, we gotta cut the population of dps's in half
drowsy heron
@edgy widget RB changes dont change the talent builds at all?
marble trench
Hey uh, are these buffs going ot make Slayer viable? I really do not like Mountain Thane
olive wraith
Hey uh, are these buffs going ot make Slayer viable? I really do not like Mounta...
It’s viable pre buffs
drowsy heron
BIG SADGE
thin scroll
imo thane fury is most fluent / fun feeling spec tbh im definitely gonna swap back next week
arms is just giga sleep
demolish kinda tingles something in the brain
odd star
guys, im not playing warrior rn sorry for being giga clueless but is slayer gonna be the go to for ST now?
thin scroll
but also shit to use
drowsy heron
guys, im not playing warrior rn sorry for being giga clueless but is slayer gonn...
i hope so but not sure
keen kindle
guys, im not playing warrior rn sorry for being giga clueless but is slayer gonn...
...it wasn't before?
undone flower
Not after .5
modest condor
guys, im not playing warrior rn sorry for being giga clueless but is slayer gonn...
yes
spare oriole
I feel like this is kinda big for M+, but meh for raid. The ST buff, while nice, doesn't seem like enough.
magic prairie
unkempt dagger
imo thane fury is most fluent / fun feeling spec tbh im definitely gonna swap ba...
of this is wild take tbf
unkempt dagger
i think thane is prolly the most boring out of all warrior specs, just feels so, MEH, no excitment
marble trench
I'm stuck between outlaw or Fury warrior right now lol
undone flower
bc it’s been 20 years
stoic loom
i think thane is prolly the most boring out of all warrior specs, just feels so,...
Its ok to be wrong
unkempt dagger
name me more boring spec
thin scroll
the fact that my cds dont allign as satisfyingly with the reduction as with thane
drowsy heron
wish BS and Reck would sync up better
thin scroll
also triggers me
teal granite
Boys, are we back after these buffs?
sullen dove
bladestorm would feel better if you didnt have to play mickey mouse cdr game with it
and it can desync
fury's pretty back fo sho
thin scroll
exactly
unkempt dagger
it is tru tho, that is annoying that it can be desync
stoic loom
bladestorm would feel better if you didnt have to play mickey mouse cdr game wit...
This
thin scroll
good im not the only one hating it for that reason
unkempt dagger
i wish there was like an internal MUST happen SD proc
sullen dove
like the only real reason to hate it yeah i mean its pretty not important on single target
keen kindle
Man screw that
sullen dove
like holding it is cringe on st but doesnt really affect you
keen kindle
I'll be happy to play thane
sullen dove
if you dont have it up in time for an add set or something its just sad
unkempt dagger
but i dont mind it, slayer ftw
thin scroll
i mean im not raiding
keen kindle
i mean im not raiding
same
harsh lava
Slayer has its problems but spamming Thunder Clap every 2 seconds as Thane really doesn;'t feel fun
floral wasp
Agreed
olive wraith
but when u get that reap the storm proc
Tb>reap
unkempt dagger
i really wished that they let u have like 8 stacks of improved whirlwind when ur in ur cooldowns
that is currently what gets me as slayer
blazing acorn
At least now fury slayer = thane for m+?
spare oriole
Does anyone know if this makes our Execute-phase damage actually reasonable now? We were kinda behind on that.
floral wasp
fury is only thane for now...
molten beacon
Is fury gonna be better then colossus arms in m+ too ?
sullen dove
helps it a bit but fury wasnt exactly crazy in execute anyway
almost certainly not
gap alot closer tho
floral wasp
it was simpler
undone flower
I might not play ww monk on beloren after all
sullen dove
yea dude beloren is actually just payphone
spare oriole
Makes Massacre even more compelling as well I suppose.
sullen dove
you simply just need to survive 2nd p1
dump all resources into doing that can probably even commit alot more dps cds to making sure eggs die
since main egg is so much more lenient
undone flower
yea dude beloren is actually just payphone
I was kinda excited to min max the window but now I’m just gonna come as fury
visual vale
I just hope I could play thane in both raid and m+
sullen dove
ya
blazing acorn
Thane will remain better then slayer for m+?(
modest condor
yes
visual vale
i do like thunderclap 
spare oriole
I was kinda excited to min max the window but now I’m just gonna come as fury
min-maxing the egg was depressing as Fury. Just piss damage compared to everyone else. xD
undone flower
min-maxing the egg was depressing as Fury. Just piss damage compared to everyone...
I meant minmax as ww monk
sullen dove
@sudden tusk you may vicariously live through shmio doing content you were doing half a week ago now
spare oriole
I meant minmax as ww monk
ohhhh, yea that's fair then.
safe granite
does this make fury better than arms in m+?
unkempt dagger
does this make fury better than arms in m+?
no
fathom stirrup
does this make fury better than arms in m+?
yes
unkempt dagger
depends
compact knot
lmao
safe granite
does this make fury better than arms in m+?
maybe?
spare oriole
fury is not better then arms in anything
It has way better style.
unkempt dagger
if u dont like arms dont play arms, ur play better as fury if thats what u love
compact knot
disagree
fathom stirrup
fury is not better then arms in anything
single target???
safe granite
i just cant stand arms awful ST man
compact knot
single target???
especially not
dusk knot
player that pick up fury tomorrow is prob better than arm player of 10 years in terms of dps
undone flower
u might be stuck doing 10s
????
spare steppe
u might be stuck doing 10s
lol what
keen kindle
player that pick up fury tomorrow is prob better than arm player of 10 years in ...
Doubt it lol
keen kindle
You seriously underestimate people who know evrey intricate detail of a spec
unkempt dagger
player that pick up fury tomorrow is prob better than arm player of 10 years in ...
i have a phd and i dont udnerstand what you wanted to say
thick finch
u might be stuck doing 10s
pin that
dusk knot
i have a phd and i dont udnerstand what you wanted to say
even im confused
unkempt dagger
hahahahah
fathom stirrup
lol im trolling relaxxx
compact knot
in m+ arms prob has worse st yeah
weary schooner
I think you gonna keep changing specs base on if your getting funnel on bosses or not in dungeons no?
compact knot
it had worse st even before this change
keen kindle
Not a hard goal
compact knot
yup
undone flower
Unless tank pulls 2 mobs
keen kindle
Well
safe granite
tank damage ST
keen kindle
that's not SINGLE TARGET
is it
lol
that's funnel
hmm actually
I'm curious
If fury becomes better in AA then arms
modest condor
i mean you're probably not gonna get funnel in a weekly +10, but if you're pushing and your tank doesn't take into account arms strengths and weeknesses he's kinda trolling
weary schooner
Thats the only dungeon i would think of
keen kindle
i mean you're probably not gonna get funnel in a weekly +10, but if you're pushi...
But chief I got told that tanks are just there to complete the dungeon and shouldn't care about what dps need to perform 
Still salty about that trash take
woven gulch
GUYS YOOOOOOOO
safe granite
so were looking at like 3.5% ST buff.
which means we will do 3.5% more than tanks now, sweet
wise geyser
time to reroll from devourer to warri
undone flower
For slayer
sullen dove
fury did not lose 7% from deep wounds
scarlet swift
It’s 10% but we need 20% to be relevant?
safe granite
im taking into account DW yea
compact knot
idk you just play thane in raid anyways
keen kindle
wait really?
sullen dove
what boss r u even allowed to
undone flower
Yeah I doubt it changes raid choice
sullen dove
like 2
rest u get like 2 seconds of pad per add set
most curious about lura viability
dont want baze's statement to come true but it could
compact knot
what did he say
misty edge
baze also made fury look unplayable. he'd need a 40% buff
dapper goblet
not his fault he got hit with the bug
sullen dove
apook only like 10%ish behind kha's log
but also kha turbo high rolling crit rng
and dw bug
dw would affect fury too
but not as much i think
its probably close
robust forum
Think im swapping back to fury from arms
misty edge
baze closer to a tank in damage than the next lowest warrior
sullen dove
in his defense prot is op
sullen dove
cluegi
compact knot
but also kha turbo high rolling crit rng
im also the goat of arms
sullen dove
lil bit of a and b
fickle dirge
baze closer to a tank in damage than the next lowest warrior
Now that prot is going to get buffed too maybe they can get him
sullen dove
truth supernova?
sullen dove
https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-homer-dance-gif-23875943
i believe we were promised some lura nerfs?
can we get a fact check on a certain message typed in a certain stream last night
dapper goblet
well there were going to be nerfs
but they didnt because guilds would cry again
so tnext week
sullen dove
what guilds are crying about world like.. 80
who gaf about them
world 5 through 8 sure makes sense
feelbad for them
pigs killing it now are irrelevant
undone flower
Pig life
dapper goblet
self pigging
sullen dove
had a really funny glaive pattern
like five of us got hit with the german bread slicing machine
undone flower
xeos in a nutshell
sullen dove
in between 2 as they spawn and a far one just perfectly runs right through the middle of that gap
dapper goblet
xeos in a nutshell
about a 67% chance i'm right most the time
fringe scroll
The thane blast buff is prot only right?
viral folio
Are we at least playable now?
sullen dove
yes
more than before 
and no boss is hard enough anymore to be like "YOU MUST SIT DPS WARRIOR RAAAH"
drowsy heron
really sad that RB builds arent coming back yet
sullen dove
last 3 were the only one that had somewhat of an argument against it and even then only beloren was like actually ever reasonable crown and lura comp completely insignificant after week like 2
jagged plover
undone flower
Glad I killed alleria yesterday
stoic rampart
are we back?
undone flower
Never left
visual vale
can someone explain me this:
I tested on a raid dummy and its not even remotely close for Bladestorm in reality
stoic rampart
we didn't even have to shut the server down
sullen dove
click the dropdown on bladestorm
probably half of that dmg is unhinged bloodbath/bloodthirst
sullen dove
same with execute has reap hiding behind it
compact knot
still losing 5k dps somewhere, cannot exceed 60k
dont worry about it much
if ur within like 5% of the sim your doing good
sullen dove
yea i mean 2min sim subject to a lot more variance with buffs/procs and stuff but you could also not be playing at 100%
and yea thats adequate enough
meager lion
guys are we so back?
sullen dove
but could be a situation of u get 2 bladestorms in 2 min or you could get 3
significant difference
pretty damn unlucky to not get 3 in that time but not impossible
surreal token
guys are we so back?
Sort of, gonna have to see if slayer fury actually has good value over arms
sullen dove
ya thats good assuming its within like 30s of reck's cd yeah
mystic echo
i love dev dhs melting down over a 5% nerf (after there 5% buff), which will still be above fury even with a 10% buff (after a 3% nerf) :3
sullen dove
ashen geyser
So the 5% fury buff worth?
sullen dove
the 10% fury buff is yeah
undone flower
And you hold bs that long only in st
visual vale
thank you for assistance Khazix and Swordish
ashen geyser
Is it 10%? The notes said 5%
sullen dove
🫡
mystic echo
Is it 10%? The notes said 5%
its 5 Flat Overall to everything + individual buffs that add 5 more
sullen dove
theres more than just 1 buff
surreal token
Is it 10%? The notes said 5%
Read the update channel, that's all u need to do
ashen geyser
I can't read I'm a fury warrior
surreal token
Smart ppl crunched the numbers
ashen geyser
Reading is for smart people
surreal token
undone flower
BT or BB during reck incident
ashen geyser
Books are scary
surreal token
Maybe 5
surreal token
I have a cheat sheet taped on the bottom of my monitor
sly merlin
so r we gonna keep thanemaxxing in keys
surreal token
But my motivation to wipe on L'ura 600 times wont
edgy widget
so r we gonna keep thanemaxxing in keys
generally yeah, but Slayer should feel a lot closer (rng notwithstanding)
sly merlin
fire i might b the only person that likes thane so that’s chill
silk wharf
can someone explain me this:
I tested on a raid dummy and its not even remotely ...
I dont see that anyone answered you. If you hit that dropdown on raid bots you will see that it is combining bladestorm and unhinged into one damage line. Whereas, in game, the damage meter does not.
edgy widget
Sword answered it 2 messages down 😛 but you are correct
silk wharf
I must have scanned too quickly 😛
worn ibex
What would it look like if they took the 5 and 8 target caps off for fury? would it make much of and impact?
edgy widget
it'd look like big nerfs, that's what
worn ibex
lol
worn yoke
Slayer fury is back boys. Let's. Fucking. Go.
odd agate
What would it look like if they took the 5 and 8 target caps off for fury? would...
We would get nerfed so bad we would be doing healer st damage 😂
brittle crow
how come so many servers had admins named "dont ping" who are on do not disturb im looking at u dh discord
why tf u an admin then bitch !!
do ur damn unpaid job
teal granite
Anyone got the numbers on hows these buffs look for single target?
surreal token
how come so many servers had admins named "dont ping" who are on do not disturb ...
DHs big mad, spam ping, annoying
Luckily our guys are quick w the numbers
And archi does a good job of providing info
surreal linden
placid palm
Probably not but a little closer maybe?
vagrant garden
are we BACK??
woven valley
Anyone got the numbers on hows these buffs look for single target?
Refer to the updates channel (think it said around 10 percent)
olive wraith
We are back
worn yoke
It's enough to put us middle of the pack. Finally allowing for some skill expression to bring us closer to the top rather than being right down the bottom no matter how well we play
Aka if we 99 we should be near the top of the meters now rather than 99ing and losing to a 25
worn yoke
Correctamundo.
worn yoke
Maybe the 52 will need to be a 78 at least now
odd crater
I love parsing highest in a pull and being middle of the DPS
It’s engaging and keeps me coming back
inner zinc
does slayer have better ST than thane in M+ with these buffs?
worn yoke
Yes. By a decent margin
inner zinc
oh im def switching to slayer then. AoE might be a bit worse off but ill take boss dmg any day of the week
woven valley
The blue post did say they would watch warrior if it needed more changes so at least they know they fucked us for a while
inner zinc
dont mean shit lmao
spare steppe
I’d love if the buffs to RB made us less likely to use rend in ST
woven valley
Means more than not saying it
inner zinc
blizz says a lot of stuff
ebon lantern
I was doomin so hard then I saw the patch notes
kind bison
what does use of ruin mean? rampaging ruin? sounds annoying af to use lol
winter shoal
Yeah if you want to use it, you have to use a cancelaura macro for single target to not accidentally nerf yourself
Very cringe talent
olive wraith
I’d love if the buffs to RB made us less likely to use rend in ST
Surely this is enough
sudden tusk
<@110993922691477504> you may vicariously live through shmio doing content you w...
lmao
vagrant garden
I mean, can we really trust blizz devs? TB buff to prot might "accidentally" apply to fury thane as well?? maybe maybe? lol
queen panther
How does ruin work again?
worn yoke
Yeah if you want to use it, you have to use a cancelaura macro for single target...
I'm actually amazed they didn't just fix this so it only does the damage reduction if you have IWW up AND your rampage was going to actually hit another target. They know it can be worked around with a macro
fickle dirge
I'm actually amazed they didn't just fix this so it only does the damage reducti...
The problem is it is not bugged technically this is how they intended it to work
woven valley
hoping for more buffs than this is just down right greedy lol
I don’t care I am greed incarnate
modest condor
I'm actually amazed they didn't just fix this so it only does the damage reducti...
you would still lose significant prio damage while aoeing so it wouldnt make it good
olive wraith
The problem is it is not bugged technically this is how they intended it to work
I really doubt they intended for cancel aura to be a thing
olive wraith
I mean, can we really trust blizz devs? TB buff to prot might "accidentally" app...
Tb should be stronger imo
fickle dirge
Not the cancelaura but the single target nerf part
floral bay
Slayer keys prolly still not back on the menu?
undone flower
Not the cancelaura but the single target nerf part
Idk how they didn’t thought about us cancelling the aura, or the fact they think it is finely tuned talent if we don’t cancel aura
surreal wedge
with rerolls now, the "bis" weapon is probably the magisters 2h no?
olive wraith
It’s whatever sims the best
surreal wedge
I just meant as a starting target
undone flower
Starting target is any myth weapon
surreal wedge
since it gives a bunch of haste and mastery, plus has a good ring and boots
olive wraith
Droptimizer sim
worn yoke
you would still lose significant prio damage while aoeing so it wouldnt make it ...
What I mean is that it should be designed to only do less damage if you would instead be cleaving. It would be a neutral st effect and less damage on lower target count but then more damage on higher target count. Anyone with a singular brain cell should be able to agree that's how it should work right ?
olive wraith
And pick whatever got good upgrades
olive wraith
What I mean is that it should be designed to only do less damage if you would in...
It’s okay for talents to have pros and cons imo
undone flower
What I mean is that it should be designed to only do less damage if you would in...
Blizzard = incompetent if they don’t know we WW sometime in ST
and just thane.
somber elk
Damn tuning, really curious if we play slayer in keys now
sand sand
any1 got sims for the new patch buffs?
olive wraith
No
olive wraith
Damn tuning, really curious if we play slayer in keys now
Can already. Prio is gonna be better now
royal oxide
Does slayer take ruin currently?
frozen scarab
is it worth to invest 80 myth crests and a cat charge on a back just for a +690 dps increase?
somber elk
is it worth to invest 80 myth crests and a cat charge on a back just for a +690 ...
690 is alot
frozen scarab
o
mental nexus
80 crests cause youre upgrading or 80 crests cause youre crafting?
frozen scarab
upgrading
ember leaf
need more buffs, not enough
frozen scarab
man im grateful for a buff in general
olive wraith
Does slayer take ruin currently?
No
ember leaf
need more number go up
ember leaf
50/50 chances they will
olive wraith
The old were not good enough unless over tuned
rancid drift
frozen scarab
WE are all switching to slayer
sand sand
so slayer better now in m+ and raid?
frozen scarab
fuck mt
deft palm
Is raging blow actually a button now
hybrid cargo
so... ive been hitting th dummy.... maintaining rend in ST in full RB is so obnoxious
young swan
We finally eating good fam?
not really just not eating shit
pallid brook
I mean
young swan
will def be a nice bump
pallid brook
Thats better than 0
young swan
bout the only thing i think is dumb is buffing slayer strike raw damage instead of proc rate
pallid brook
Some of them seem significant enough
frozen scarab
from bottom to middle of the pack 🔥
ocean ore
The shit cake we have been eating now is sprinkles with shit oreos
frozen scarab
i do also love being in middle
pallid brook
Its just right
young swan
"loving" being in the middle is just cope
pallid brook
Nah
odd agate
Middle in raid, probably going to be above middle in m+ I feel
young swan
you will still get nerfed if your gimmick is too strong and then you are just actually dead
frozen scarab
at least blizz acknowledges us
pallid brook
Being at the top for some period then getting the whole house thrown at you is the worst part
frozen scarab
was worried we'd end up on the rogue path
young swan
idk if you've played wow recently but they dont really do that
pallid brook
Considering how much we creep up with gear is all good
frozen scarab
Being at the top for some period then getting the whole house thrown at you is t...
mages pepelaugh
young swan
okay u just havent played warrior since mop
brittle crow
holy fuc why are 220 boes so expensive
how else do i quickly gear a fresh 90, the ritual sites? delves?
pallid brook
Delves
frozen scarab
world quests
wheat lantern
rare equipment is warband
stiff barn
Delves can drop champion track gear at renown 8 or something
olive wraith
so... ive been hitting th dummy.... maintaining rend in ST in full RB is so obno...
Huh
pallid brook
Can get hero if youre level 9 in delves
frozen scarab
been sitting here getting perma declined for 10s
pallid brook
Fr?
frozen scarab
3k io is useless 
wheat lantern
warrior is make your own key class
winter shoal
I'm actually amazed they didn't just fix this so it only does the damage reducti...
I mean just make it work like dreadnaught and everyone's happy
BEAN saying that
pallid brook
warrior is make your own key class
Nah cap
frozen scarab
my key is a 13 skyreach 😭
brittle crow
Can get hero if youre level 9 in delves
teehee
frozen scarab
need nexus
brittle crow
world quests not a bad idea tho
hybrid cargo
Huh
i threw a raging blow build together just to see how it would feel if we ended up putting all the points on that side and hitting ww to keep rend up on the target feels awful. i know we dont have numbers yet im just messing around
unkempt oasis
How are they justifying their sadness?
frozen scarab
thought all uhdk players were just meta hoppers
vestal root
apparently "yoyo balancing they will feel shit again"
???? like bro you will still do crazy dmg
unkempt oasis
That is a little valid
vestal root
yoyo balancing is WoW though unfortunately
unkempt oasis
With the bug they went to bottom, then went to top
edgy widget
RB is still weaker than BT and doesn't have as much enrage benefit, so I think any kind of RB build is unlikely
vestal root
slayaaaaaa
unkempt oasis
Playing slayer gonna be hype
vestal root
slayer believers redeemed yet again......
unkempt oasis
I swap between the two, but slayer is bae
hybrid cargo
so we still just put all our points into BT thats kinda ass
unkempt oasis
You just said the raging blow build felt like ass
hybrid cargo
the rotation felt way better hitting BT/BB every 5th/6th global
dry ether
Guys, so does that mean fury will be switching to slayer on reset?
unkempt oasis
We don't know
olive wraith
They’re closer then ever play what you want
frozen scarab
^
frozen scarab
means we wont be tied down to mt
unkempt oasis
I want to buzzsaw packs again
orchid crag
Only problem with Slayer on fury is it feels clunky
orchid crag
yeah wish they would clean that up a bit
orchid crag
Thunder Thane feels great.. but I really hate seeing STomp / rampage / stomp / rampage all the time lol
steep flax
Thunder Thane feels great.. but I really hate seeing STomp / rampage / stomp / r...
zug zug
stoic star
JUST SAW THE BUFFS LFG!!!!
drowsy heron
Thunder Thane feels great.. but I really hate seeing STomp / rampage / stomp / r...
yea that gets boring really quick, just wish RB was strong enough for the full RB build
edgy widget
"RB build" is never going to be a thing for Thane
at least as long as BT -> Thunder Blast exists
drowsy heron
i mean for Slayer, shoulda split that message up better
edgy widget
it could work for Slayer if they tune the damage up enough, but you still have this irreconcilable issue of not having enough GCDs to use both BT and RB together
you're only ever going to be able to build for one or the other
def feels like we're heading in a good direction though
timid tide
Slayer fury feels like it lacks an ability to press, compared to Thane
drowsy heron
I personally prefer RB, but i understand that BT is a lot of what people like
olive wraith
Slayer fury feels like it lacks an ability to press, compared to Thane
Bring back slam 
drowsy heron
Bring back slam <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
please never
just buff RB a little more so slayer can go full RB build
with all the resets we should barely ever have to press anything else lol
olive wraith
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GI...
It’s funny you like this but hate thane
drowsy heron
It’s funny you like this but hate thane
i think RB feels like a better button to press to me, probably the animation
thats one of the reasons i dont like BT, animations for most races suck for it
humble plover
idk BT can enrage you, heals you, and gens less rage. no reason it should also do more damage than RB
thats been my confusion between them
hybrid cargo
BT in thane essentially becomes raaging blow with the proc tbh lol
regal aurora
BT for Thane I actually enjoy pressing, it feels right. But I much prefer RB. I’m actually struggling this season because I’m unable to break my habit of RB spam.
edgy widget
idk BT can enrage you, heals you, and gens less rage. no reason it should also d...
the reason is because Blizz wanted to put emphasis back onto Bloodthirst and overcompensated, leaving RB in the gutter
hybrid cargo
i mean if thats te case take a charge off RB
edgy widget
but nature is healing
hybrid cargo
like if we arent supposed to press it we dont need 2 charges
edgy widget
it's not that you're not supposed to press it, it's just more of a filler now
humble plover
only time ive enjoyed BT over RB was bfa with the strong version of CSHB so it felt really strong to hit lol
edgy widget
keep in mind BT has a 2 GCD cooldown, so RB having two charges is actually good for those times where you need to fill both GCDs for want of rage to cast Rampage
hybrid cargo
yea but the way fury is built there are so few oppertunities to hit RB more than once at a time
its just bait
edgy widget
I mean not so much
not as Slayer anyway
yes, there are times where you're pressing something else that's procced, but there are also times where you don't have SD procced or don't have enough rage to Rampage
zinc python
Omg guys I just saw the news! Are we good again?!
edgy widget
also keep in mind that you'll no longer be hard casting Rend or using Wrecking Throw ahead of RB
hybrid cargo
i mean dont we just ww now anyway?
humble plover
bless
edgy widget
i mean dont we just ww now anyway?
RB is a much better button than WW, so that is not ideal
hybrid cargo
i meant to refresh rend
edgy widget
not in single target
currently, it's better to hard cast Rend than to use WW to apply it
gilded granite
Can I play Slury without using bladestorm?
edgy widget
Rend doesn’t cost fury right ?
it doesn't cost rage for Fury, correct
though it doesn't generate either, so in a sense it does have an opportunity cost of lost rage during that GCD
edgy widget
Can I play Slury without using bladestorm?
you could, but not particularly well
its kind of their whole identity
brittle crow
people willingly using ravager
edgy widget
can't even do that as Fury!
analog tapir
Is fury funnel still working where u get more rage from WW when there is more targets ?
brittle crow
still
edgy widget
u would be the type to use sad baby reaction gifs
no sad babs allowed
gilded granite
Sorry
zinc python
It feels like warrior got the biggest buffs
analog tapir
Dw we are only getting buffs cuz we are kinda garbage in raid
brittle crow
"kinda garbage" bottom 1 in boss damage btw
we exist only to pad
and we lose to most classes on that
analog tapir
we exist only to pad
And we are not even the best at that 😂😂😂
brittle crow
And we are not even the best at that 😂😂😂
do u know how unreasonably upset i get when i parse 1 higher than my windwalker monk and he finishes the fight having done 4 mil more overall
analog tapir
Yeah it’s sad
gilded granite
my pala with like 9 ilvl lower sims the same as my warrior
analog tapir
Getting 99 log and seeing urself as 7 or 8 in the dps meter
queen aspen
