fury

[winter shoal]

You should generally always be in ava if you're in reck, so it's kind of a moot point

but if you're in ava outside of reck, the logic applies

[hybrid cargo]

thats why i only referenced reck lol

[winter shoal]

Yes but my point is that reck doesn't affect the prio of exe or 1TB

Avatar does

Well, those two relative to each other

[hybrid cargo]

i mean sure it does reck modifys rage gain

i get what youre saying

[undone flower]

It does not modify priority

[winter shoal]

it does not

[hybrid cargo]

idk im just being clipped cuz i didnt specify that i meant reck AND avatar lol thought it was implicit is all im saying

[winter shoal]

I guess another thing since you said it was a dungeon, TB always takes prio over exe in aoe, regardless of cds or stack count

[hybrid cargo]

it was in a dung but we chatted after about non dung stuff 😛

but ty for the answers much appretiated

[sly merlin]

almost resil 18s.. 3 more big fury warrior gameplay coming when i get home

[dense elbow]

[edgy oasis]

Randomly. When running 15s i feel have cd up every pull. When I done 17s earlier packs lasted where the remaining 10-15% my cd came back up.

In 18. You getting best part of two cd per pull?

Maybe it was just the frost mage aoe dmg that meant the packs were living longer.

[radiant raven]

Was talking with a friend of mine and he was saying that i was complaiting too much and that warrior is perfectly balanced and fine.
Just did Crown HC.
i guess the definition of perfectly balanced is having to play amost perfectly to perform as well as all the other specs average joe

[gloomy orchid]

guys, what should i aim for stats, 40% mastery and 30% enough or too much??

[sly merlin]

kind of depends a bit but yeah often comes up again near the end of the pulls and i will hold it for next pull

sometimes like if a dk has army up or whatever for the pull he will just nuke it so fast u might not even have cds for next

generally everyone’s dmg should be strong enough to not have to pop again in the same pack so far even if they come back up

[frozen scarab]

i think it’s 40 mastery 20 haste

[bronze elm]

is there any UI thing that i can check to see what loots pec i rolled a raid boss on previously??

im in front of boss and dont know which spec i bonus rolled on last week

[gloomy orchid]

thanks arosu

and rest haste right?

[tepid beacon]

why does Archon.gg show blue items in the BiS list? or does it mean get these items but in mythic track

[olive wraith]

You don’t aim for specific %

Sims tell you what you need

[olive wraith]

No

[unborn delta]

this isnt a bis list this just is what most ppl have equipped

[olive wraith]

Ignore Bis lists, it’s only the best if you have every item on the list at max ilvl. I believe archon just does “popularity”

[tepid beacon]

ah fair, ty

[sullen dove]

and those items are just dungeon loot showing up as blue cuz of normal dungeons or whatever

[frozen scarab]

isnt mastery giga for fury

[olive wraith]

It is. But again sleep don’t aim for specific %. Sim always knows best

[frozen scarab]

robot does always know whats best

[sly merlin]

robot wants me to get crit and i am listening to robot

[uneven path]

@dense elbow sorry to bother but what do you sim for dungeons ?

[strange drift]

This. He has very big preference for crit for some unknown reason

[junior oyster]

I somehow just had this fuckload of mastery and now robot wants nothin to do with it. All crit and haste for me rn

[fickle vector]

This is backwards to what I have been gearing for… should we listen to robot?!?

[undone flower]

Yes

[strange drift]

I mean

Sims don't lie

Unless they do

[fickle vector]

[undone flower]

Would you be able to tell if now your next upgrade is that random crit haste belt by yourself ?

[modest condor]

does your sim have a big preference for crit or do you have a ton of haste and mastery on your gear so your crit is far behind and your sim is telling you to get some more?

[opaque wave]

would gloves be a bad craft?

want to just craft 285s since i have 243

[hybrid cargo]

yes get void claw

[opaque wave]

from seat right

[hybrid cargo]

yea

[odd crater]

Always trust robot, robot is key to success

[strange drift]

Yeah but then it goes into a circle

[odd crater]

Without robot I wouldn’t have 1359 mastery

[strange drift]

Oh u got more crit now? Ig u need haste/mast now

I still sim everything

I do ok damage so ig it works

[olive wraith]

It’s almost as if your stats change

Weird

[zinc plaza]

Yoo, how do you guys deal with pulling aggro? I wait until tanks has them grouped and focused on him, usually happens more with druid tanks but typically I pull aggro in the beginning of some packs when I do the charge reck/avatar odyns etc… also happens when fighting the mobs going to last boss on terrace that spawn little adds as well, only really happens to me in 16-18 keys (usually with TC)

[strange drift]

No intellect on gear really shows on me huh

[hybrid cargo]

depends on how you tank pulls if they are doing like AA pull and you start dpsing before he has them grped ur gonna die

ur also gonna miss out on a lot of damage

cuz they arnet grped lol

[zinc plaza]

Yeah bro I’m trying to figure out the balance of not dpsing to early and trolling and not going so late that it’s also trolling

I just don’t get it lol this is my first season on fury or warrior in general I swapped from ele shaman

I feel like I miss out on so much bc cuz of it

[hybrid cargo]

what a horribkle time to play fury lol, yea like it just depends on the tank unfortunately theres no catch all

[zinc plaza]

But when I go earlier I get fucked if I show have shadowmend

[strange drift]

Sorry to hear that twin

[hybrid cargo]

big pull generally = wait like 3-5 sec

[strange drift]

Of+reck-ava+tb makes me cream every time on aa

[hybrid cargo]

like hit a thunder clap or ww to get ur rend ticking

[olive wraith]

Tangent, but pop odyns before your Ava/rek

[hybrid cargo]

really? is it not modified by avatar damage amp? or are you just saying so it doent do mad aggro?

[olive wraith]

You generally don’t want to use the global on odyns during cd

[hybrid cargo]

huh

interesting

[olive wraith]

The initial damage won’t be affected by avatar, but the bleed damage will when you pop your cds

Then you can go off doing your tb/ramp spam

[hybrid cargo]

that makes sense

[lean heart]

shadow meld
all good

[strange drift]

Nelfs can't stop winning

[hybrid cargo]

i mean if hes in like 17s... he might be dead by the time he realizes he had aggro lol

[zinc plaza]

In ngl I’m loving it even tho I’ve see. Everyone dooming 💀 I’m new here tho so I never felt the prime lol

[olive wraith]

Na fury is fine for keys

[strange drift]

It is fun

[olive wraith]

It’s mostly raid doom

[hybrid cargo]

yup

[strange drift]

What he sayin^^

[zinc plaza]

Oooh I didn’t get why to do odyns first, is it cause of rage?

[lean heart]

raid you just play arms highk

fury giga bin

[zinc plaza]

Exactly what I needed lowkey lol

[strange drift]

U still can top damage in raid btw just not on like 7 bosses give or take

[hybrid cargo]

alos shockwave is your friend

and the tanks friend

[lean heart]

[olive wraith]

Nah not for rage gen. It is nice it enrages you for your first tb though

[zinc plaza]

I have it but I need it more lmao

[lean heart]

you odyns first cus you want to get it on CD immediately

for cdr

[hybrid cargo]

i mean same with reck

and ava

[zinc plaza]

Yeah I use it as a kick if it’s down or to get aggro off me

[dense elbow]

Generally I sim 1t 4min, 5t 4min and if I feel I need AoE 8t 4min

Generally I sim to answer a question. Usually a "how do I increase my prio dam", but this season... yeah... so I just do 5t sims, as meh, at least I do consistent dam.
edit: Only sim buffs you know you will bring, dont raid sim.

[zinc plaza]

Ooooh thanks g

Ngl yall helped a lot

[strange drift]

I reck charged so much at the begining of the season 😭the muscle memory was hard

[zinc plaza]

I’ve been very hesitant in recent keys with going all out with my damage sometimes afraid of trolling from the aggro

Especially in 16-18s it’s been way more damage lol

[lean heart]

yeh i had to swap out my reck charge macro

[hybrid cargo]

if its that frequent you have really bad tanks

[zinc plaza]

I’m still kinda new to WoW as well my first real season I played ele for like 3 weeks in war within that’s as far as my knowledge goes lol

[olive wraith]

I mean you can’t pop cds when they’re gathering

[undone flower]

And you can’t farm cdr if it’s a big gathering

[zinc plaza]

Nah I don’t, I wait until I see the dps on my group on the charts sky rocketing just to be safe that’s how paranoid I’ve become

[lean heart]

basically once the tank stop moving youre probably good to bust

[uneven path]

Thank you G

[undone flower]

Or you can follow the tank and hit for 1 gcd what he is hitting

[lean heart]

granted its also good to know the dg like for example "oh i know people typically pull these 3 packs for this pull"

[hybrid cargo]

hitting the mobs first wont really help you out damage an unholy dk or dev dh, fury isnt burst focused

it plays like it should be....

but ya know

TuNiNg

[zinc plaza]

Honestly I love how it plays, I like big damage but I also like the consistency the class brings

Class/spec*

Like I did notice for sure in raid it’s weaker but still enjoy so far we killed a few mythic bosses as a guild, granted we aren’t the most competitive more of like a friends thing but it hasn’t felt terrible either, on first 2 bosses for void & chim

Full on single target in raid feels ass tho lol

[sly merlin]

also pretty safe to hit things tank has keg smashed if u have brew tank

[zinc plaza]

Tangent? Sorry I’m a noob

[olive wraith]

Tangential to the convo

[hybrid cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/secant-line-converging-to-tangent-line-animation-gif-18716967

[olive wraith]

Basically off topic but semi relevant

[hybrid cargo]

fury warrior on the meters in raid, colorized

[dense elbow]

I dunno, play with casuals, you will dominate

[hybrid cargo]

every time im one of the top performers in raid i get really nervous ngl lol

[dense elbow]

Same, you know the raid is shit

[sly merlin]

same but i pug raid only rn

[zinc plaza]

Appreciate y’all’s help def makes me more confident handling those situations more just need the live practice now

[sly merlin]

when u pugging and u see the devo dh below u it’s over

[zinc plaza]

I’ve been pushing my limits on learning this spec

Either goes real good or real bad 😂

[hybrid cargo]

in all honestly you dont wana play TOO risky in a raid cuz if it bite you youre not worth the rez in most ppls eyes

its sketchy af

sick when it pays off though

[zinc plaza]

Tbh in raid I feel hella comfortable with mechanics and most of the rotations, more about consistency for me, if my rotations gets clunky when I lost flow lol

M+ I’m pushing decently high keys but I def don’t feel nearly as comfortable strictly cuz of the aggro issue I explained beforehand

[hybrid cargo]

certain things like uptime on Vorasius while either hes casting the adds or they are being gathered are HUGE for a parse, same goes for when you get spikes on salsdar. my current team wont eve let us stay on boss till the last sec with spikes

its aids

or even at all

[sly merlin]

i haven’t had any aggro issues in higher keys

only one time

[zinc plaza]

Damn bro what am I doing wrong lol, I feel like I’m doing what ppl have been telling me to try 🥲 I did get a lot of advice rn so I’m gonna apply all that, which I’ve been doing essentially but now that I got some reinforced feedback I’m gonna double down on it

[zinc plaza]

Yeah I noticed you def have to take advantage on those windows for sure for parse wise

[sly merlin]

just wait for gather and hit the add that matters it’ll usually be the one w the most threat

sometimes you can pull a bit of aggro on things still coming in or chained but if it’s like 1 or maybe 2 mobs ur usually gonna be tanky enough to live a hit or two

but i’m assuming u mean ur ripping like 4 mobs n getting onetapped

u just gotta wait a little bit for me maybe easier because i have to waste 2 seconds using puzzlebox on every other pack lol

[zinc plaza]

Oh shit lol, Is puzzle bis on M+ or it’s just what you got type shit? & I appreciate the tips ngl I’m gonna apply all this tn wish me luck 😂 gonna attempt another 18 tn hoping I don’t fall over, we timed the last one but had a couple deaths I want to be cleaner as a unit and that includes me not trolling the aggro

[zinc plaza]

I’m gonna be heavily focusing this in case then

I need all advice I can get it’s been a major change for me going from ele shaman to this, while learning the game itself feels a bit overwhelming but having fun so fuck it, just part of trying to push “harder content”

[echo rapids]

We have 2x guardian Druids as our tanks, it’s been rough aggro wise

Chimeras adds are just not fun

[sly merlin]

it’s just what i have rn sadly ripping aggro and dying is really bad bc it’s a full waste of ur cds + pot sometimes + run back + death time loss

[sly merlin]

i like bears but monk tank is just way better plus better for physical comp anyways

[zinc plaza]

Yeah bro I’m ngl the aggro thing never happens to me with monk only mostly with bear basically

[zinc plaza]

Yeah it feels terrible when you die and just popped reck-ava 💀

[echo rapids]

The curse of a casual guild without FOTM rerollers

[jolly wind]

how bad is crit for fury

[spare flame]

guys i'm in love with female orc bloodthirst animation holy shit

[jolly wind]

i main arms but if i wanted to play fury offfspec i would have a lot of crit

[wicked eagle]

when are you guys using cds on dragons

[jolly wind]

ik fury is haste/m,as

[coarse nest]

You won’t be fully optimized ofc but you can still play the spec

Just don’t expect to screenshot the highest overall you’ve ever seen and post it here

[honest tundra]

sim it?

[coarse nest]

Add spawns

[surreal wedge]

It seems like most the high people are rocking arms, but I've really never vibed with it, is it troll to roll fury in M+ instead? Not sure how much of it is being outclassed or just better profile

[fading sky]

Nah do what u like

[maiden ingot]

Grab more Arms weighted Neck+Ring from just plain ol' M+ HC Track and swap em in. Rest of the Fury Gear should generally be largely the same of what Arms wants anyways, since like Half of it is Tier anyways and you have no choice.

[fading sky]

Arms deffo stronger

[echo rapids]

Thane is just fine in m+, especially if you are just going for like 3400 for the mount

[surreal wedge]

[echo rapids]

Your tanky AF, have cooldowns every pack, etc

Arms defiantly starts to feel better in like 16s

But thane is still fine

[spare flame]

the problem with arms is that you have to play arms

bloated ass spec

[echo rapids]

🎉

[spare flame]

huge

[undone flower]

I got the belt in my bonus roll

[fringe vale]

Grats!

[ripe shore]

Yo dumb question - are weapons unique equipped from M+?

[young swan]

nope

[ripe shore]

I assume not seeing as the bis would be 2x the same weapon... But if we can't bonus roll the same item twice

[young swan]

bis uses a crafted weapon

[ripe shore]

orly

But with no embelish?

[young swan]

with an embellish

[ripe shore]

Welp

cheers man 😄

[young swan]

fwiw

the difference is very small between all variations of "bis"

just use what u got

[ripe shore]

Oh yeah I was more asking for future ref, got a crafted already so I can safely upgrade it later

[jolly wind]

why is thane better than slayer for fury

in mplus

[young swan]

cause it does more damage

real answer is that slayer doesnt have a reliable and consistent way to do damage past 5 targets

you just have bladestorm and reap

you can take rampaging ruin to shore up the overall aoe difference but it sacrifices a ton of your prio damage

[olive wraith]

And the st difference isn’t a large as before

[young swan]

which is just generally bad

[brittle crow]

yo i might be able to ditch sensei resource bar next patch?

now just let me center align it so my ui can be entirely stock

Please

[olive wraith]

Haven’t looked at the .7 ui stuff

But should be able to see once it’s on ptr

[brittle crow]

also the $75 housing bundle is crazy

oops i said a bad word sorry skyhold

[olive wraith]

Based self report

[brittle crow]

according to the warning message the mods can see it anyways

i am simply expressing remorse

[jolly wind]

so do u just use odyns whenever since it doesnt line up with ur cds anymore

it comes back faster than ur cds

[brittle crow]

it does line up with cds

you should get 2 odyns per avatar and 1 inbetween

[jolly wind]

yeah one in between

ok i gotcha

u press thunderblast in st ?

the proc

[undone flower]

cds are around 45 sec, OF is around 20 or so

[brittle crow]

u press it as filler, or as prio above bloodthirst when 2 charges

[jolly wind]

ok

i wish slayer was good

i love slayer for arms and fury

[frank dawn]

if they would fix Bladestorm lining up with reck, and let the spec actually do fuckin damage I think Slayer is great

but bladestorm rng is frustrating and spec is just absolute turbo dog shit atm

[shut bone]

do i want to use reck pot outside of Heart of Ancient Hunger proc?

[dapper goblet]

https://www.twitch.tv/bazefacee/clip/TiredResilientFungusGrammarKing-eonp-P3CS5mBVEkh

gotta target the boss to hit him lil bro..

[compact knot]

holy shit

[slim coral]

yeah I saw that

Apparently its a bug in p4

[dapper goblet]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

[slim coral]

your character can stop targetting the boss

dratnos told me

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-gif-2218387369813418815

[slim coral]

I mean you can see it stops taretting it

I just didn't know it was a thing

[dapper goblet]

the rare bug of only happening to bazeface on the kill

[slim coral]

[sullen dove]

its called hitting the escape key

1 singular tab press bring it back B)

[slim coral]

well this was my first time doing p4 cause I got melee'd on our 2nd try and then our shaman dcd on the first try and kill me with a blaze line

so I was just focused on not fucking up

[sullen dove]

ya prolly still more dps just being alive

[slim coral]

yeah just sucks

cause I didn't know

[sullen dove]

happens

some of ur melee were like in the front of the circle that def looked a bit sketch

[young swan]

u know this dude is like an infamous troll and loves to fuck with people right

[sullen dove]

but ig its fine with the way the stars are oriented

i presumed it was the circle holder being too far back but yea not targetting the boss probably more significant

[slim coral]

I'll never forget

Gally

[sullen dove]

@sudden tusk honkai man

[slim coral]

The bombs do no damage!

[compact knot]

he has such a innocent facade

[slim coral]

also melee cannot get the beam mechanic on them

holy fake info

[sudden tusk]

im fighting a bug

[sullen dove]

bug man

story quest bug now yes

talking with banjo cat jello woman

[sudden tusk]

she fed me weird stuff

[sullen dove]

yea just some casual drugging no worries

[slim coral]

I got somethign I can feed you

[sullen dove]

?

[slim coral]

[willow cradle]

gulp

[fleet sorrel]

wow

Beast mode clip

[compact knot]

https://www.twitch.tv/khazixzuljin/clip/ArbitraryUglyWaffleSuperVinlin-GltH571sd2eRNdc-

[young swan]

log on genshin

[sudden tusk]

i just got the wolf of silver she is weird

seen other peoples do like super extended ult durations mines probably just weakly

[slim coral]

What an insane heroic hop

[misty edge]

solid leap. not as good as baze spamming his keyboard into the void with no target

[slim coral]

hey man it happens

[sudden tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311936702352330825/1491059955485380679/trim.363895D5-E5E0-444C-A085-F0C1AE90FCD2.gif

[compact knot]

i did it on my first pull also

[fleet sorrel]

Can’t believe the tanks griefed him into being out of range

[slim coral]

well we were out of range when running but then it randomly stopped targetting the boss which I've never seen happen my entire wow play time

[sullen dove]

yea e2 gives her 1 or 2 extra turns but that also very heavily depends on other elation teammates

for you right now her ult duration isnt that out of the ordinary like u wont make it any longer without simply pulling 2 more copies but the main issue is her stack generation is just much lower without more elations and she'll just do way less damage

which is why i sort of suggested you can swap to elation tb early to make her somewhat better

but if shes still killing content dont have to worry about it

[sudden tusk]

ah okay

[sullen dove]

so like ult buildup is slower and damage ceiling is alot lower because of less characters, but it should still function the same as anyone else's once youre in it, just doin alot less dmg than the average independant of your like account level

[wicked eagle]

free from puzzle box hell amen

[sudden tusk]

yippie

[wind hedge]

hello, best dungeon for fury to use bonus rolls?

[sullen dove]

could we not just... move backwards

or does the beam have a max range

[wicked eagle]

Terrace imo

[sullen dove]

assume its pretty far tho

[compact knot]

in the heat of the moment

[sullen dove]

truth nuke

[compact knot]

i saw the glaives stacked ontop of eachother

and didnt see they where splitting apart

[sullen dove]

yerp, didnt realize they tick so fast

like u can live one if it touches you but you gotta like move out instantly

[wicked eagle]

But sim it, weapon and ring are close to bis in terrace afaik

[compact knot]

also i kinda wanted to see if you can leap out of it

or

over them

[sullen dove]

if ur in it for like even a second u just kind adie

you maybe can if it wasnt 2 or if your leap was like "more distance"

[sudden tusk]

go my chud son

[sullen dove]

the whole reaches point a to b in the same amount of time so your leap is much faster distance traveled if it goes farther

[wind hedge]

i'll check - thanks for the answer

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/silver-wolf-sw999-silver-wolf-999-silver-wolf-lv999-pac-man-gif-10636194097577501592

[misty edge]

just no outplay

[regal marten]

I do all of them on PoS: belt ring chest and neck

[sullen dove]

what is 30 casts on the environment the helly

we out here hackermanning?

[coarse nest]

[regal marten]

The shield thingies

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/i-realized-i-had-been-hacked-jamie-zhu-hacked-computer-hacked-loss-of-information-gif-17018956

[misty edge]

untargetted abilities like ww and of and shit like that

[sullen dove]

is this yoda chud in method now? or thats just for like the key team or something

[fleet sorrel]

Content team as a streamer

[sullen dove]

epic

[compact knot]

this still exists

lmao

[slim coral]

explain

[worn yoke]

so are we going to have to wait until 12.0.7 to get any sort of tuning to not have all of our DPS specs be on the bottom of the pool?

[quiet geyser]

Tbh, .7 patches dont usually have tuning involved

Usually just random slop content

[echo mica]

Hey do i save the sparks for a weapon or do i craft a cloak without and embilishment because i have 2 already im confused

whats end goal two crafted weapons?

[quiet geyser]

No

Either 2 mythic weapons and a crafted embellished cloak and bracers

Or 1 crafted embellished weapon with a crafted embellished bracers or cloak

[echo mica]

ok so i have weapon and bracers now

do i hold on to the sparks

[quiet geyser]

You can just freely use them for upgrades then for your weaker slots

If you still have any hero or lower stuff

[echo mica]

ok so goal is a mythic weapon along with the crafted

[quiet geyser]

Correct

[echo mica]

dude thank you

[quiet geyser]

Make sure to put mythic weapon in MH once fully upgraded (higher ilvl)

[echo mica]

oh ok thank you

[compact knot]

disgusting cock

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cock-calling-you-gif-18569393

[coarse nest]

[fickle vector]

Hey I have another clarifying question in this topic. I have a mythic level crafted embellished weapon as well as mythic crafted embellished bracers. Should I use my extra sparks on crafting a cloak potentially? (That would be an upgrade from a hero track non bis cloak) Or will I need these sparks for void forge to further upgrade my crafted weapon?

[olive wraith]

Weapon recraft doesn’t take sparks

[surreal wedge]

question without looking through all of them, are all teh guides linked in faq basically teh same?

[coarse nest]

Once you use sparks on a item they are good to go forever you only can change the crest type

[fickle vector]

Ty so much

Other question, if I want to craft higher PVP gear, do those require sparks of radiance or do the PvP crafts take a different item?

[undone flower]

omg !!!

[radiant raven]

huge, congratz!

[sullen dove]

yeah

[surreal wedge]

.

[sullen dove]

probably

wowhead and icyveins written by same guy

[uneven path]

CG nay good loot ?

[sullen dove]

maxroll/whatever another one if there is one is made by diff ppl and probably at liberty to be less up to date but could be ok reference to compare to the first 2 mentioned which typically are way more up to date and informative

[undone flower]

I lost every transmog rolls

[uneven path]

[compact knot]

this happens so often on a lot of bosses that are super fast

happen on the pull of l'ura like 1/20 times

[sullen dove]

happened once on fatescribe to me

took a literal 90 degree turn path through 2 orbs

instead of just straight to boss

magnificant kill cam

[surreal wedge]

ty for the answer

[compact knot]

icyveins better for pvp typically

[terse ether]

Nice

[echo scarab]

god damn can they get rid of the whirlwind 4 stack and make it a timer like every other ability that grants cleave

[icy whale]

👀

[odd crater]

Just count to 4 and reapply

Ez

[echo scarab]

i try but theres a weird input delay when the last stack is off and its hard to always keep track esp during new fight prog

[odd crater]

Also know that stack doesn’t visually drop until rampage is done so account for that

Even though it’s consumed on start of rampage cast

[fickle vector]

rapamging rruin worth taking for mythic+?

[young swan]

nah

[tribal goblet]

for the trash before the first boss in seat is there anything i can do as a warrior abnout those chains?

[sullen dove]

charge removes it as slayer with that 1 talent

maybe the berserker rage 30 sec cd talent

remove movement impairing affects

[winter shoal]

fearless is actually some sauce this season

[keen kindle]

Oh charge

Never change

[random shadow]

berserker rage removes it every 30 secs

bladestorm also removes it

[keen kindle]

This is fury

Brain ded

[slim coral]

you can bladestorm

[lost reef]

If u play nightelf you can meld them also

[elfin harbor]

man i just get instantly kicked out of keys when they see i play fury.

That sucks man

[dim spindle]

Not that we really need it but I can 110% confirm that nexus ring set is proccing on random mobs in narnia in m+. 2 or 3 times per run

Tanks love me

I'd advise dropping the set bonus for keys that matter just in case, though the potential for much laughs is certainly there

[dim spindle]

Where's her clothing? She must be chilly 🙁

Someone get her a nice warm jacket

[sullen dove]

eh she got like 20 gallons of mtndew in her veins she's prolly fine

[dim spindle]

Oh what a relief

[spare steppe]

you can just use berserker's rage with fearless

which im now seeing swordish already said

[sullen dove]

game

[unique wyvern]

Guys, can someone help me understand why i did a super low grey parse on Salhadaar Mythic, please? ❤️

Here is the log:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PtfBbQKRY9d6zAMC?fight=last&type=damage-done

Am I pressing less bloodbaths than everyone else?

[elfin harbor]

I would say you just missing the chima trinket. To be at the level of people with same ilvl ^^

[sullen dove]

def alot more than just that going on

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/PtfBbQKRY9d6zAMC/VBmc6gWfYN9q8Gwb?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=1%2C240&start=1026037%2C4752039&end=1371183%2C5098155&targetclass=Boss

you vs a top 10 log, he had a little more add dps than you but honestly not by much so difference there isnt as crazy but the boss dmg gulf which i linked is nuts

more clear to see casts not used on boss

[worthy yarrow]

WWWWW

[sullen dove]

he has almost double the number of rampages

and like 15 less bloodbaths on boss

would just look at other cast differences

[modest condor]

there's something wrong with that link

if you look at his kill normally he has 92 rampages

[unique wyvern]

rly? crazy

[unique wyvern]

oh

[sullen dove]

just like rly focusing on adds maybe? idk why only showin 42 when i click just all bosses

bit weird maybe

[modest condor]

oh wait you're on bosses only?

[sullen dove]

it does say 50 rampages on adds when other guy had like 20 something

[modest condor]

maybe just cleaving off of boss vs cleaving off of adds

[sullen dove]

yea maybe

[unique wyvern]

damn, double? how the fuck

[sullen dove]

well just on boss

but looks like u have alot more if ur main targetting adds

ig wasnt thinkin that most people would do that

but maybe if ur group needs to like prio them

he has double your tcs tho minimum

[unique wyvern]

damn

so he has double my rampages on boss and double my tcs

[sullen dove]

the rampage thing is less real i guess you seem to be main targetting adds more

but just in general boss dmg alot lower

[brittle crow]

what do i need to go going into m dragons

[sullen dove]

while add is a little lower still but not by as much

if u have less tcs tho its probable youre not cleaving as much as you could like.. cleaving boss when targetting an orb

also assumes ur tanks tank it nearby

if boss on other side of the arena and ur focusing a ball its kinda gg

[brittle crow]

also my guild is 3 tanking m dragons r they stupid or is that the strat

[sudden tusk]

we did the same on prog

extra bdk for grasp

[unique wyvern]

thats exactly what happened

boss is on the other side of arena far far away from balls

[bitter palm]

why do guilds do that

what the helly

i pugged and we just dragged the boss but you could basically always cleave from boss

or swap to it in exe cause powerful momentum

[modest condor]

sometimes guilds try to "play it safe" but in doing so just make it harder

my guild played magmorax terribly, they constantly had the boss like 40 yards away from the fire puddles so you had giga downtime running over there even as ranged

because otherwise we might have the boss take stacks from standing in them

[bitter palm]

i mean surely with current gear the add just gets exploded

[gleaming crag]

when you copy vorasus it gives slayer lol

[drowsy heron]

wait, slayer is better for Lura?

[mint moat]

is wrecking throw on paladins a dps increase

[mint moat]

orbs

[winter shoal]

@slim coral will say it is

for heroic it doesn't really matter, play whatever

I think it's probably a slarms angle if anything tho for mythic

[winter shoal]

Yes

[smoky vale]

gm

[mint moat]

ty

[brittle crow]

when the f do i use cds on m dragons

[winter shoal]

Play ethical colossus arms build and just cd on cd

#fury message

ignore adds embrace boss dam

[slim coral]

I think thane is now

After the nerfs

[brittle crow]

im incapable of playing arms

raid lead forbids it

[slim coral]

Plus thane doesn’t rely on rng

[winter shoal]

I mean at that point just play slarms no

[slim coral]

Nah

[winter shoal]

if you can't nuke crystals in 3s

[slim coral]

That minus 5 percent is a wrap

Gg

[winter shoal]

Like your job as slurry is just to bladestorm crystals p1 right

[brittle crow]

can i use fearless to break dragons grip

[winter shoal]

there's no reason to play slurry otherwise

[brittle crow]

or do i need to get out

[winter shoal]

yes

wait

the tether no

the fear yes

[brittle crow]

damn

[winter shoal]

you don't need fearless to break the fear though, just regular berserker rage

[brittle crow]

ik that 1

[smoky vale]

???

[modest condor]

W raid lead

[brittle crow]

i was too shit so he was like U are playing fury

and im like ok dad

[smoky vale]

what else is there for you to learn on the boss

[brittle crow]

no learning, only parsing

(as fury)

[slim coral]

Idk thane does it too

Just as good imo

It honestly felt like you can play whatever you want ngl

Even on mythic we killed it with plenty of Lee way

[winter shoal]

I don't trust my guild to be ethical so probably a slarms angle for me when we get there (in 2 months)

surely we get more ST tuning by then right

[slim coral]

W when it gets the giga buffs

[winter shoal]

I can't wait to absolutely sauce on alleria after not seeing myself on the meters yet

I had a perfect p1->p2 transition yesterday, full HS and immdem stacks carried over into lust+pot+cds

still didn't even hit #10 on meters

gg

[brittle crow]

having cooldowns for 2nd adds feels rng as thane

might be skill issue tho

[sullen dove]

feel like 0 reason to ever do fury on lura

unless group somehow has absolutely 0 add dps

[bitter palm]

surely exe buff on reset to compensate right

[sullen dove]

do it

[sly merlin]

surely

[sullen dove]

wym u cant keep heroic might up in intermission

unless you like.. bank a heroic strike and hit her mid intermission as ur getting sucked towards her

tried it like 2-3 times shit was awful

30 second buff just falls off for fun

teehee

[slim coral]

Well Druid tank and blood dk are insane

Plus if you look at boss damage fury isn’t that far off in p3

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-get-uhhh-uh-uhh-uhhhh-uhhhhh-gif-16027964425850179471

[sudden tusk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-meme-wilfrosty-mr-fresh-wr7oA0rSjnWuiLJOY5

[misty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/anyway-conan-obrien-hot-ones-first-we-feast-whatever-gif-5423600098184846410

[frozen scarab]

its so over bro

[sullen dove]

yea idk they did something to repairs last expansion or two i feel like

this shit is not normally

maybe just dont recall so many like instant wipe bosses

but literally 2k gold repair every 30 minutes of raid

[slim coral]

I blew through like 10k of repairs first 3 nights of Lura cause we had 70 pulls p1 first night

[frozen scarab]

yeah i blew all my gold on repairs 😭

[brittle crow]

holy poor

[frozen scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-steam-steam-sad-gif-9524752141311518885

[sullen dove]

yea zawg needs to pop a world quest

do some delves for gold or sum shit 😭

[brittle crow]

i see people popping cds 10 sec before void howl

but are u just single targeting to not waste ur claps?

or are u only spending 1 clap and hoping for a refund

[sullen dove]

is that adds

probably cd early to have a chance to get it back for future add set

cuz its not like tclap is that much worse than tblast

ofc youd rather get a lucky tblast on em

but not like making or breaking

and also more of it during lust for more ethical boss dmg

[brittle crow]

idc about being ethical

i care about parsing on prog

[sullen dove]

yea good luck xd

but first reason still holds

if u ava the moment adds spawn almost guaranteed u dont get it back for 2nd set p1

[brittle crow]

our monk hit #1 parse on our first chimmy kill xd

[sullen dove]

maybe you can

no one else doing add dmg i guess

tragic

sposta steal from him

[brittle crow]

its rng

sometimes u do sometimes u dont

[slim coral]

[undone flower]

boss dmg parsing right ?

[brittle crow]

thumbs down react

pregnant man react

chicken react

[frozen scarab]

whats up with people making groups then going afk for 40 mins

[worn yoke]

hey i didnt know the 19 other raiders in my group were in this disc too, hi there

[winter shoal]

I don't track that shit idk I just used HS and SD right before vorelus died

[sullen dove]

yea imminent demise will stay ofc cuz 1min buff

but ur losing heroic strike buff every time

very fun

ty buff uptime design

[winter shoal]

I mean zdps on that fight anyways no matter what

[sullen dove]

fatal mark took like 3 duration buffs on raszageth

cuz you would lose it early on in intermissions

cant be bothered to do this simple shit the same for us

[mint moat]

on pallys what can we spell reflect as a dps anything?

[edgy umbra]

As someone that’s looking to actively improve, is there anyone I could talk to, exchange logs, some gameplay etc to see if there’s anything I could be doing better?

[worn yoke]

use it for magic DR on the group soaks as a priority and anything else in between if you wont have it on CD for soaks.

[brittle crow]

wtf is our windwalker doingggggg

hes top dps on every fight and its not even close 😭

[winter urchin]

its WW they just do that

[brittle crow]

but ww isnt meta

unless it is xd

[winter urchin]

its literally just WW they just do that, its not a bit, kind of a brain dead class imo

[worn yoke]

and now show parses / boss parses. and see who's padding

[bitter palm]

insane in raid

[brittle crow]

im TRYING to pad

ofc he's padding, hes #1 parse in world

but im TRYING to pad to keep up

[frank dawn]

isn't ww like us except they actually have burst aoe so they can still look good on meters

but still pretty bad boss damage

[winter urchin]

idk my experience with ww is theyre good even if you legit narcoleptic. source my ww is narcoleptic and he tops dps its actually exhausting lmfao

[jade tree]

chat are fury warrs cooked?

[winter urchin]

im beating tf out of my rotation and im cuddling witht he tank rn

its so sad

[worn yoke]

aren't we all... 🙁

[frank dawn]

tuning tomorrow guys

yep

fr fr

[worn yoke]

[frail prism]

trust

[brittle crow]

how many pulls is dragons supposed to take

[gilded dune]

why tease

one day 🙁

[undone flower]

Middle boss dmg

[wispy thistle]

if only fury had burst to be able to pad

[undone flower]

20-40

[brittle crow]

we're getting to intermission consistently 30 pulls in

🥹

[undone flower]

Which intermission

[brittle crow]

1st...

[undone flower]

3 tanking ?

[brittle crow]

yea

[undone flower]

What goes wrong

[brittle crow]

idk

after intermission ppl just shit the bed

[woven valley]

Dragons is fun if your team doesn’t step on each others toes constantly

[stoic star]

First Week I got Mythic Gaze with Voidcores on Tuesday -> got refunded 2 more and got mythic boots > 2nd Week I get Mythic Heart 🙂

[winter urchin]

hey myth raiders, what are your secondary stat %s?

tryna make sure im not a moron

[winter shoal]

stat %s don't matter, just use whatever raidbots top gear says

[winter urchin]

rip

[winter shoal]

the relative value of stats compared to one another is dependent on what gear you have equipped and what gear you have available

[rugged cedar]

ww has incredible pad right now

[brittle crow]

yea, i see that by looking at the logs

we're parsing the same and im doing 3-4 mil less

😭

[rugged cedar]

you get 3 stomps in zenith

[winter shoal]

the most accurate way to know what stat distribution is best for you based on the gear you have available, is to sim the gear that you have available

[rugged cedar]

i want to see my monk v bran in a key

[undone flower]

Im ww monk on beloren

[winter urchin]

traitor

[undone flower]

Blizzard is the traitor

My monk who spent myth crests on 2 items does 50k more dps on beloren

33% more

[winter urchin]

that is so incredibly frustrating

is WW easier?

[undone flower]

Idk, it’s not hard

[winter urchin]

considering the sheer damage output

its annoying as hel

[undone flower]

The sheer output is basically bc beloren is 30 sec dmg window

And ww monk just bust

I was considering getting a puzzlebox on my war but at this point I just proposed to try my monk

[winter urchin]

is puzzle box out performing gaze or heart?

[tawny sonnet]

Gaze

[undone flower]

I would guess heart on a 30 sec window

[sullen dove]

@fleet sorrel first 0turn anomaly boss poggers

baby's first diamond border

[fleet sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/silver-wolf-sw999-silver-wolf-999-silver-wolf-lv999-pac-man-gif-10636194097577501592

woo

looking low on hp

[sullen dove]

eh its ok

[fleet sorrel]

now what

[sullen dove]

idk

tried to get e2 firefly but cursed with e2 fuxuan

i deserved it tho after getting 3 silverwolfs in like 150 pulls

so prolly just suffer and hold like scrooge to see if yaoguang is insta rerunning next patch then have to get her

if shes not tho could keep trying for ff!!

surely enough pulls left in the patch for stuff to just get her ezpz

apparently ppl 0t that guy with like e0s0 sw and like perfect play lol but i aint doin allat

[tribal goblet]

ty

[odd crater]

1/9M now for my guild

Only 8 more to go

Just shy of 100k as Slayer on Imperator.

[sullen dove]

big

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-gif-26479397

[brittle crow]

we got 4/8 tonight

and by we i mean not me

[flat river]

poggers

[brittle crow]

cuz i was benched for salhadaar

xd

[flat river]

moral support

[brittle crow]

i wasnt even in the mf call i was leveling a ddh

[frozen scarab]

this is hsr?

[sullen dove]

yes

[brittle crow]

i think im getting benched a lot because ive gotten stupid lucky w gear

myth heart myth alnseers gg

so i dont get to reclear anymore

[modest condor]

[frozen scarab]

5 mythic runs no loot

[clever plover]

dmg to boss look pretty nice 🥺

[keen kindle]

Boss damage dosent matter in a pad tier

[clever plover]

Sorry, I forgot this.🤡

[fading sky]

I mean issue is like. Fury lowest ok if pad gods

Arms should be a lot higher on boss dmg

Coz paladins and dragond

Sadly the 2t god isnt a god

[keen kindle]

I remeber getting told this

[fading sky]

And furys burst aoe does not exist

[keen kindle]

During first weei

[fading sky]

But like arms imho tuninf should havr em top 5

Due to how spec is

And fury should at least be mid

In boss dmg

Arms has little flexibility. And only reason its ahead of fury is those 2 bosses

At least after dw fix that hurts arms boss dmg a lot in any 2t add encounter

[frozen scarab]

ddh MIGHT need another buff

[fading sky]

Y ddh isnt op showed.here

Top overall top 6 boss dmg

[oblique thistle]

I have the answer

nerf arms

[fading sky]

Nono nerf furu

Accidentally nerf arms

We just had oppositw

[oblique thistle]

nerf fury but put arms in the patch notes

[fading sky]

Yees

Gettin there

[compact knot]

nerf arms but instead nerf fury and prot at the same time

(that just happened)

[oblique thistle]

surely we will get tuning

for now this weekend I am getting gear for my purple guy

[compact knot]

me too

[compact knot]

i was lvl 83 8 hours ago

have made some solid progress

[brittle crow]

i will also be gearing my purple this weekend..

[oblique thistle]

nice

I leveled a healer recently and got to 270 in like 3 days lol

gearing is so fast now

[compact knot]

its gonna be even more insane in the .7 patch also

cause that raid drops warband mythic shit

well just warband shit in general but

[oblique thistle]

yeah thats nuts

[compact knot]

i wonder how rerolls will work on that boss

possibly you like

can reroll warband stuff for your alts

idk

[oblique thistle]

bonus rolls seem to be untradable soulbound

perhaps it will work the same for the flex raid?

[compact knot]

yeah but might be diff for that boss

[oblique thistle]

sure

[compact knot]

one can hope

[oblique thistle]

tbh tho by the time it comes out our alts will have so much myth stuff from vault and bonus rolls

[fading sky]

Bonus rolls are brilliant catchup ngl

[oblique thistle]

ya they're really cool

[fading sky]

Ppl complaining are dumbasses

[tawny sonnet]

Im doing some optimisation atm. How much crit do i actually need? Is it increase mastery as much as possible, keep haste at about 1100 and crit 350-450 ? Trinkets are heart and gaze. Im sick of running sims

[fading sky]

Its a better system than weve had 4 bad guilds

[fading sky]

Only choice sim it

[oblique thistle]

sim unfort

[fading sky]

If u wanns optimize

Or just get bis list

And smile

Like u could i guess find bis list calculate the stats

Do a % nerf dependin pn ya gear and try 2 hit its exact breakpoints

Most likely worse han just sim🤣

I saw 30th hot fix 100% certain we wouldda gotten a patch note

Like warrior is super dog in st. We are lookin into it

To me, the lower the burst the higher overall st u should have

A 100% uptime should reward with great numbers

[tawny sonnet]

Paladin noobs are kicking my ass in st. Its not funny anymore. APM out of the ass and barely top 5

[oblique thistle]

put down the sword

call john felguard

[fading sky]

Top 5 in raid?

Id take that

[tawny sonnet]

Yea

[fading sky]

We got dks, dhs, augzug, rets

Oh y monk

Warlocks

Mages

[tawny sonnet]

Fucking frost

[fading sky]

Fdk also cranks us

[tawny sonnet]

No

[fading sky]

Ppl just play uhdk coz its evwn better

Yesh they do m8

Fdk sims 122k

[oblique thistle]

fdk boss damage is actually p good

[tawny sonnet]

St only ?

[fading sky]

Problem is 90% of good dks ofc play uhdk

Its ranged

No uptimw issuws

Lile uhdk has no downsides

[oblique thistle]

also I'm sure it does less pad which is why its lower on the overall stats

and yeah uhdk has infinite uptime

[tawny sonnet]

I'd be kicked without pad

[fading sky]

Its also a very select amount of ppl that play it

Y imagine gettin pad

U must have bad raid

[oblique thistle]

my raid loves to pad on adds

[fading sky]

My ddh knows how to

And mage and locks

Shit i never c shit get 2 melee nearly🤣

[oblique thistle]

you dont even have to think about lock cleave

your rotation just does it for you naturally basically

[fading sky]

Pets pad

[oblique thistle]

yea

[tawny sonnet]

Tried arms of desperation. Felt worse, despite the tier lists

[fading sky]

M8 arms is veeeery dependant

[tawny sonnet]

Out of*

[fading sky]

Its horrid

[surreal wedge]

do y'all save CD's for going down if you're in first group

[fading sky]

No

Never

[oblique thistle]

nah

[fading sky]

Send boss

Only boss matters

[tawny sonnet]

No

[oblique thistle]

the adds are going to explode anyways

[fading sky]

Adds get deleted by ddhs

[surreal wedge]

fair nuff

[tawny sonnet]

Arms rotation feels unclean

[surreal wedge]

I'm not used to having control of my CD's

[sage ridge]

It honestly feels fine imo

[surreal wedge]

since I maind ddh

I just go when I get it lol

[fading sky]

Rotation is fine

But its more 2 get bigger potential than fury

[oblique thistle]

thats kind of how fury is most of the time because of anger management

[tawny sonnet]

Maybe its just me. I never vibed with arms

[fading sky]

U need 2 tank shit correctly

[surreal wedge]

true, deciding on how to try and allign reck and storm

[fading sky]

I mean its clunky coz of lack of rage

[surreal wedge]

we do still sue slayer in raid yeah?

[oblique thistle]

you can always save certain things for specific things, like holding bladestorm for a particular set of adds on a boss or something if you're playing slayer

but yeah generally you just slam your shit on cd

[fading sky]

Tbh

U can play thsne np

Gap is minimum

[tawny sonnet]

Thats why i switched. I keep hitting ceiling with fury

[oblique thistle]

honestly every fight is basically a thane fight

maybe not saladbar?

[fading sky]

Ofc salad

Million adds

U gey 2 clap

[oblique thistle]

ah true

[fading sky]

Even super thabe

Even vors

If u are always on boss rsnge and clap adds

[undone flower]

I played slayer on vorasius until .5 but whatever boss so

[frozen scarab]

bro why is ret pal pumping so much

[undone flower]

Tuning

[frozen scarab]

what do they even do

[undone flower]

Lots of dmg

[drowsy heron]

anyone else losing the motivation to play with how bad Fury is atm?

[undone flower]

Im surprised im still not raid logging

[frozen scarab]

idk being low on dps meter makes me sad

[fading sky]

I mean being low is 1 thing

2 me its more

So many good encounters for fury

But we still dont do dmg

Like first 5 should be decent fury fights?

6 tbh

[undone flower]

If sustained cleave is current fury thing, first 5 should be decent fury fight for 2 weeks

[frozen scarab]

how do i cope with a shit bonus reroll

[fringe vale]

Ddh exists

There’s that

Every other class does better than any spec of warrior currently

[timid tide]

Copium. I had a duplicate bonus roll last week

[frozen scarab]

goodness

wait what dungeon are u guys using ur rerolls on

[timid tide]

It should be mgt mostly

[frozen scarab]

whoops

did one on aa

[timid tide]

At least I need th voidcleaver on mythic, coz I'm running the heroic version

[fading sky]

I mean go look at dubgeons

Npx for rings

Id say if u are good on myth track items in gen

[timid tide]

I'm barely pushing out of 120/130k in keys right now, being 282 ilvl 🙁

[fading sky]

Tbh m8 hero offhand isnt issie

[frozen scarab]

not worth rolling for plat star band?

[fading sky]

Id say npx sre top rings

[timid tide]

Most fury warriors rock the rings for npx

[frozen scarab]

is wowhead lying to me wtf

[fading sky]

No

What is 1st ring on bis list?

What is 2nd

[fading sky]

Do u got acces 2 midniggt falls

Mythic ring?

Im guessing no🤣

[frozen scarab]

[fading sky]

So for 99% of the game u use npx rings

No doubt

[pearl sequoia]

its prorbbaly not a big difference either

[frozen scarab]

i do npx then

aa lowkey depressing anyways

[fading sky]

Yeye

[timid tide]

I did dreamrift last night on heroic, just for the sake of it and slacking on dmg and got the gaze of the alnseere with 95 roll, so that's good

[fading sky]

Y ofc

[timid tide]

Don't you hate it when the DPS that's there just for the ride gets your bis? 😆

[fading sky]

Always happens. But im pretty decked out

From bonus rolls

Got heart and gaze

Myth track weap

Fully myth track tier

Just need bis myth weap from pos

[edgy widget]

only myth items I'm still missing are chest, which I'll get next week from Pit since there are only two items left on its table, and gloves

technically ring too, but I'm using Heroic Eye of Midnight, which won't be replaced until the mythic version anyway

[fading sky]

Out sims 2 x m npx rings?

[undone flower]

Seat gloves

[somber thicket]

MGT+14 1 dead slayer fury fck the meta and nerfs.... zug zug

[dawn crater]

+14 is not where Dh shine 🙂

[somber thicket]

The point wasent to show i beat a dh but to show that you can do 160k overal with typicaly worst spec in m+

[fiery edge]

What is even a warrior atp

[lofty delta]

how does the Seat-L'ura spell reflect tech work as a dps?

you taunt the boss during the spinning beams, take the first hit after and then the tank taunts back?

[valid pulsar]

whats the addon that says my kick marker is X at the beginning of key or is this just a macro

[remote bobcat]

exwindtools or some QoL addon

like ItruliaQoL

[valid pulsar]

alright thanks

[eternal sundial]

MDT can also do it

[terse ether]

can I roll twice in 1 dungeon run>?

[eternal sundial]

No

[native wadi]

I did 205K same run as arms, thats why slayer falls back 🤣

For 15 even 16 fury its fine

[somber thicket]

Yeah wanna see your dps on demo on a non add bos

[native wadi]

Doesnt matter

If you are doing 200K overall who cares what you do in boss

And many bosses have padding or cleave

If you really wanna push 17+ not going demo is just griefing

And as fury I always fall behind in overall

Vs people who know what they are doing ofc

[somber thicket]

Pugs 99% dont pull adds to bos i got all 16 with 3-5m on fury

[native wadi]

Which 14s normally is not even the case

That yo can do it

Doesnt mean that demo is not better

If you wanna go fury go fury bro, you can do it

But is just not as good

The doble demolish per pull just destroys fking everything

[somber thicket]

Didint say its worse. Demo is the most bloated and clunky spec in the game. Slayer arms and fury is most funn to play

[native wadi]

Demo is fun as hell

With demo cd going so down now

Is really fun

Fury is just braindead and full W

True zug zug

Thats why its fun

But lets be real thane has 0 skill and gets boring quick

[somber thicket]

Yeah true.

[honest tapir]

Any one else having alot of success with rampaging ruin in mythic + . For pit and magister, any higher keys with big pulls I ahve been a lot more effective overall damage wise. Anyone have the same result?

[somber thicket]

Are you using cancel aura?

[honest tapir]

What would I be canceling?

[somber thicket]

Rampagin ruins aura on single target when you use ww

[honest tapir]

Interesting. I already use two keys for rampage, I can make one for single target. Good call!

Cause whirlwind is preferred over rend single target too. Makes sense

[somber thicket]

i think you use it below 5 targets

if they could do that rampaging ruins do 100% dmg to your main target would be great

[honest tapir]

Now I disagree with that I would say only single Target did you do that because you’re just losing Cleve damage cause I believe rampage ruin isn’t its own aura so you just be gimping yourself. Single target for me tooltip is 23k, rampaging ruin, 14

[honest tapir]

maybe if the targets aren’t close enough to be in front of you I would say that’s the case

[somber thicket]

Thane m+ build with vantus 283 slayer full st only 700 better....

[native wadi]

Fake sim

Hahaha

What are you simming to go 100K

[somber thicket]

5m 1 target lol

[native wadi]

Ah thats why you stop roght after cds

I sim 96k with all relevant bis but I go 6m and no vantus thats why probably

[somber thicket]

5m no vantus is 95,835 for thane

[native wadi]

Holy shit vantus is 5K?

Huge

[somber thicket]

Still our top St build its almost same as m+ build whats its just stupid design. but i think Dh dosent change anything betwen st and aoe. Slayer full st 96.458

[worn rain]

they buffed amount of vers into midnight

[honest tapir]

You’d miss out on reap the storm procs if you cancel on 2-5 targets , in addition to being a dos loss, barring all targets are in front of you in the cone of rampaging ruin.

[tepid beacon]

hi all, can anyone crit my gear? been simming, pretty much following guides and using sim... at this point can you recommend anything, as for the most part anything that drops from Mythic + it recommends the Algethar puzzle box, but I know some here don't use that. I am in the process of raiding now to go for BiS

[spare steppe]

Don’t trust us, trust the sims

Though you should do eagle eye ring enchant

[tepid beacon]

the description says "increases crit strike effectiveness by 0%" dafuq 😄

wouldn't that mean it does nothing

[spare steppe]

It’s 2% was buffed in last patch

Used to be 0.75 and 1.5 but got buffed to 1 and 2 which makes it pretty strong for most specs

[tepid beacon]

ohhh ok just description threw me off

archon showed most players using zul'jin mastery, but I'm gonna check Eagle eye now ty

and sim ofc

[spare steppe]

Archon is just popular it doesn’t necessarily mean good just fyi

[tepid beacon]

no worries ty

[old prairie]

morning guys, Murder Row Fleet Feet count as embelishment? or i can make and use with my bracer and weapon embelishment?

or i can craft and use with my bracer and 2h sword with embelishment?

[torpid dragon]

yes they count. anything that says unique-equipped: embellished counts toward the cap of 2

[timid tide]

I have both light/void fingers on hero 6/6 and a bifurcation band on mythic 6/6. Simming says I should combo bifurc. and void ring. Void is crit/haste while light is haste/mastery. Shouldn't the light be better?

withouth flask and food i'm at 40% mastery and 29% haste

[odd crater]

Robot knows best

[timid tide]

#skynet

[frozen scarab]

is 3500 all 16 keys?

[unreal onyx]

are there any restrictions if I wanna have my guild carry a friend that started wow after 4 years through heroic for my friend

hes lvl 90 250 ilvl

like story barriers or smthn

[lofty seal]

+16 in all keys i think is 3400