fury

[random shadow]

I've seen lots of prot warriors so idk about that

[odd crater]

Yeah I ended up tanking when I did it

[fleet yarrow]

Huh

Immediate invite into 1st one I applied for

[dense elbow]

Not a single warrior in sight

[random shadow]

See ez pz

[coarse nest]

Nobody invites warrior

[dense elbow]

They invite me

wdum

[random shadow]

No one invites fury. Arms gets invited

[odd crater]

I get invited

[random shadow]

You're him

[odd crater]

I was fury

[dense elbow]

Doomers gonna doom, I gonnna win

[coarse nest]

Bro I was straight up in a 12 farm key waiting for a 3rd dps pick and I watched the guy click invite on the demo lock and then remove me a few seconds later

People are stupid

[fleet yarrow]

whats difference between mythic and heroic dream?

[dense elbow]

That is what you get for not being funky enough

[odd crater]

Stuff

[coarse nest]

[random shadow]

Dont touch friends

And kicks

Is all

[vague stump]

yeah I purely switched to arms because fury doesnt get a single invite

[fleet yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pepo-g-peepo-gif-22945943

[vague stump]

not even into phys comp lol

[random shadow]

Col arms is also lots of fun rn

But fury do be rough rn

[odd crater]

Don’t go near people in other phase, or you fuck em up pre much

And kick casted adds

[vague stump]

idk its fun ish

[dense elbow]

Room is divided in two, you stay on your side.
Once in a while when downzone, you get a debuff: go to marker, stand there till you go topside, join topside till suckin. Then go to your own group again.
Interupt fear add.

[vague stump]

but kinda boring too

[dense elbow]

That is it

[odd crater]

And maybe side into Berzerker shout for the fight

[vague stump]

demolish is a fun button

[random shadow]

Acting like fury isn't as boring

[dense elbow]

Fury is fun

shooo

[random shadow]

They nuked slayer arms tho

[odd crater]

Slayer is most fun spec I’ve played between thane, slayer, and colo arms

[dense elbow]

Good, only Slayer Fury

no slarms

[random shadow]

I should do a fury key again. Haven't in a while

[undone flower]

Tuning wise yes but still 100% fun

[random shadow]

I have 2 myth weapons now

[vague stump]

tbh if slayer fury was even abit viable in 19s I would probs play it

but I get gapped enough as thane lol

[undone flower]

Congratulations

[uneven path]

Feels like slarms was shot in the head with 12.0.5 update

[random shadow]

Idk slayer fury feels kinda weird

Then ahain my sample size is 1 key since .5

[vague stump]

it was shot in the head it aint even the single target spec lol

so I did run it in AA

but now its like no viable at all

less aoe same single

[odd crater]

Idk man I’m over here parsing 85’s on Belo with Slayer fury

Just gotta push buttons better

[random shadow]

I mean

[vague stump]

but if I was running 15s I would probs just play slayer

[odd crater]

Other specs would be more fun is Avatar was any kind of exciting to press

Compared to BLADESTOOOORM, it’s just so weak ass to push

[random shadow]

Gotta love the base 20% increased fps

[vague stump]

tbh I can see puzzle BS on belo being kinda good tbh

[random shadow]

Ye on egg burn phase

[odd crater]

I don’t have puzzle tho

[random shadow]

I would attempt if I had a myth version but I dont

[vague stump]

yeah a puzzle slayer in single target build may slap tbh

[undone flower]

Even a thane one

[vague stump]

I done 95k w thane puzzle in burn phase

only heroic tho

so I guess slayer would be over 100k

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-community-good-J8FZIm9VoBU6Q

[undone flower]

If only you were

[fleet yarrow]

we wiped immediately lul

[frozen scarab]

is it true the evoker discord closed 😭

[undone flower]

No it’s just discord servers bugged yesterday

Skyhold included

[lapis rose]

guys what is it ? why i cant sim crafted item now

[lapis rose]

ty

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/why-so-serious-christian-bale-the-dark-knight-NcE2q0J7sfgl2

[random shadow]

I mean I've hit 90k something on hero without box so

[vague stump]

I mean I probs fuck shit up like I normally do no 100 parcer here I just parced a mere 92

[random shadow]

I mean 90 ish k is 99% in hero or at elast when I did it

[random shadow]

Ah thats cause thats 84k. My 99 was 94k

[vague stump]

I am very happy that I dont need to do it again and probs wont on myth either ill just ride the bench just like cosmos

[random shadow]

Cosmos bench on hero or myth?

[warm crag]

if youre getting benched on hc you should find a new guild

and get a grip

[vague stump]

naa

I killed heroic cos

I'll probs ride the bench but lets see should kill paladins tomorrow

[dense elbow]

This is facts:

Benched on HC, this late

[quiet osprey]

benched on hc at all tbh

[dense elbow]

1st week, the sitters sit

this is allowed

week 2-3 they get carried

[unkempt oasis]

Technically we are all sitting

[strange drift]

Anyone using an MMO mouse ? (or just a mouse with a lot of buttons) and wants to give me a recommendation? i've been looking into and the corsair scimitar looks good but idk would like to hear yall opinions

[dense elbow]

I was told fury was bottom feeder in raid

https://giphy.com/gifs/google-im-reddit-BIZkwFtu2xDlS

you liers

[uneven path]

Paid actors

Not real

[dense elbow]

I blame my extremely bad gear

[strange drift]

holy fuck is that a recount skin for details

[dense elbow]

That is just bog standard default details, in all its glory

[unkempt oasis]

What fight is that?

[covert coyote]

I use the Scimitar, it's BiS. just setup the software that comes with it and it's good to go. the program used to suck but it's improved a lot. lasts like 4 years longer than a Razer naga does.

[strange drift]

pog nice im def. getting the wireless version then :)

[covert coyote]

I don't have anything to offer about wireless mice. I've always used wired, feel like there could be some input lag but maybe tech has come far enough that it's not a problem now. wireless headphones are a game changer though.

only thing I'll warn is that it takes a couple weeks to get used to the thumb buttons. (or it did for me) But now I couldn't play WoW without them.

[celest halo]

yeah the input lage on wireless (as long as it's a decent one) has come a long way

I used one for a bit, but I always forgot to charge it when I was done, so I had too many times where it would die mid key/raid

[honest tundra]

wait you're the goat...

so its just skill issue all along

[tardy lark]

dont check the log for boss damage

[thick finch]

ye olde chim pad

[warm crag]

good chim logs are just self reports ngl

[radiant plank]

@smoky vale

[dense elbow]

Already got my boss dam log

[warm crag]

can i macro guidon to wb/ava or should i press that shit myself

[dense elbow]

Btw, the real MVP for a good log = the tanks

[radiant plank]

Ravager

[smoky vale]

ravager

just press it inbetween gcds in st

[vale shore]

Hey guys, friendly Bear tank here. I just posted a log in the review channel for my friends Fury Warrior. He is struggling a bit compared to our groups regular DPS / any pugs we pick up. Damage seems low for his ilvl and I wanted to see if we can get any help as we're starting to push some more challenging content.

I tried using the compare function on warcraft logs but I just don't really know enough about the class or spec to address or understand any serious issues other than kinda comparing total casts and stuff like that, so I came here for help.

Thanks in advance if anyone has time to look it over, feel free to delete this comment if cross-posting outside of the log channel isn't allowed.

🐻🤝⚔️

[smoky vale]

i looked at it he needs to press tc and tb a lot more

[radiant plank]

i looked at it he needs to respec arms

if he wants to stay fury, reading the wowhead guide is a good start looking at his rotation

[past pivot]

Why didn’t he post himself? He may have bigger issues than dps charts if he needs that much hand-holding.

[vale shore]

You guys are fast compared to druid server lol. ^ I was just looking over stuff while I had some downtime today and figured I would do him a favor.

So really there are just some fundamental major issues with his rotation/priority then.

[radiant plank]

yes

skimming wowhead guide and then practicing his ST and AOE rotation on tdummies for atleast 30mins each is a good start

he can sim himself vs tdummy and try to hit that dps

then run some keys and ask again, but he is playing fury so dont have crazy expectations about his dps

https://www.youtube.com/@noxiv you can use this guy as a reference to see how a r1 fury performs

[covert coyote]

I was gonna link a log of mine for a seat for you to compare # of casts but WCL is bugging out rn. yes he needs to thunderclap way more

[olive wraith]

He can also upload logs into wow analyzer

[radiant plank]

wowa not good for m+

[olive wraith]

Is it not? No target count detection or something?

[remote bobcat]

wowa is not optimizied for niché target situations yea

Also m+ requires thinking ahead, holding some cds depending on packs etc

Wowa doesnt know anything about it and will actively red-flag you holding CD

[dense elbow]

I just press CDs when CD is ready, I do fine

[olive wraith]

I figured it just compares it to the apl. Til

[dense elbow]

BiS trinky achieved

[vale shore]

Noted, I appreciate the quick responses. I'll relay the information/links and see if we can rebuild him lol. Hopefully I'll be back in a few weeks with some better logs. GGs

[trim moon]

No one has said this yet to you "just people duuurrrrrr chim pad duuurrrrrrr shoulda rolled arms duuurrrr insert butthurt statement" but NOICE BRO! Keep representing!!

[dense elbow]

trinky actually fought quite well vs alnseer

If you lads dont got an alnseer yet, might be worth getting the trinky roll

[uneven plaza]

=
=

[dense elbow]

=

[uneven plaza]

=

[willow obsidian]

What addon did you use for your GCD visualizer bar?

[dapper goblet]

⚔️ 🐟 =🐷

[serene socket]

It broke after the 12.0.5 update and it seems sporadic whether it works on every gcd or not 😔

I will get the name next time I'm at my computer and let you know either way

[sullen dove]

🔴 🤺 = 🐖

[fading bane]

im out of prison

[vague stump]

gratz

[modest condor]

grats

[young swan]

gratz

[dense elbow]

Gz

[remote bobcat]

Gg, I hope to get there soon too

[fading bane]

We were running it down so hard tonight

but its dead

[uneven path]

+ =

[dense elbow]

🐱 🙂 👍

[smoky vale]

"swordish equals pig", old man

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-souljaboy-soulja-boy-huh-soulja-boy-tyga-gif-4086522772699119831

[dapper goblet]

i'll accept that

chud spec

[slim coral]

hell yeah grats bud, we saw p4 last night so surely it dies tonight

[dapper goblet]

why did you just @ some random guy

[fading bane]

We saw p4 8 times total

and we were megagriefing

legit on the kill

2ppl were bugged

getting stacks of the dark

but we pumped them with healing and they lived

[slim coral]

idk how that got there

what the

[dapper goblet]

uh huh

[smoky vale]

im calling you old

OLD MAN

[misty edge]

thats rude

[smoky vale]

who are you

[heavy yacht]

I really need help with my dps. since yesterday i just can't seem to do any. my group just disbanded in a key and after first boss my overall dps was 96K while the ret pally had 135. prot pally had 80k. I don't know what I am doing wrong. the last few weeks were good, and now nothing works. I checked my build...nothing changed (mountain thane). I use consumables, I'm geared (279). I know priorities. I don't know if anyone has tips or something because i'm a bit discouraged and it's taking away the fun right now as i get frustrated.

[astral root]

Whats your toon name?

so i can look it up rq

[heavy yacht]

rennsy on thunderlord us

[smoky vale]

are you press thunderclap on cd

[heavy yacht]

yes

[smoky vale]

and you would probably have to review your rotation a lot

are you pressing your cds on cd

[heavy yacht]

i ran some sims on my toon and it was better than some arms warrior yesterday who completely obliterated me dps wise lol

[astral root]

Jas, what is your Mastery rating

%

[heavy yacht]

let me check

37%

[astral root]

thats really low

[heavy yacht]

how can i make it higher?

[smoky vale]

sim never are and will never be an indiction of live performance

are you using consumables

those help

[heavy yacht]

yeah i realize that i was just desperate to find out what's wrong lol

[smoky vale]

are you doing your opener correctly

[astral root]

better gear, that will make it better. Boots from Maisara or MT

[heavy yacht]

yes i am

[astral root]

if you wanna look up the gear i have

Vordristasz, MG

[heavy yacht]

thanks

[astral root]

I can typically hit an overall of around 130 or higher depending on pull sizes

One big warning, Fury has what may be about the worst ST in the game comparitive to other classes

so your overall will more reflect AoE over ST

[ornate gust]

which is better in m+, slayer arms or MT fury?

[frank dawn]

Fury is currently dog shit

next question

[slim coral]

dps wise they are both pretty close if you look at top logs

[heavy yacht]

i can't find you on raiderio

[modest condor]

dont fixate on secondaries, they would maybe make you go from 80k to 83k or something

[astral root]

https://raider.io/characters/us/moon-guard/Vordristrasz

[modest condor]

what matters is ilvl and rotation/cooldown usage

[sly merlin]

trve

[modest condor]

and ofcourse how the tank pulls

[sly merlin]

i’m such a fat chud

[slim coral]

The rank 1 arms compared to rank 1 fury in keys is like 30k diff

[astral root]

@heavy yacht Have you gotten your 4 voidcores, 2 from last week, 2 from this week?

[warm crag]

@dapper goblet thoughts on 45 minute match

[sly merlin]

m+ score updated for my old aa17 to give me points as if i timed it with the new change but didn’t give me resil 17

so i have to go time it

gggggg

[heavy yacht]

no i am just finding out about this lol

[dapper goblet]

stat padding match

[astral root]

Jas, absolutely you need to catch up on that system. You can then grind Myth level gear from your BiS Dungeons. I recommend throwing probably all 4 at Magisters Terrace. 2h wep, ring, boots, chest, and legs are all BiS (As you can turn chest and legs into tier)

and when you get one of these items this way, you cannot get it again (assuming blizz actually fixed that bug

just gotta make sure you run them and spend them on +10 or higher

[heavy yacht]

i think i already got my bis weapons

we have the same

[astral root]

you also NEED Gaze and either Heart of Ancient Hunger (Voracious) or Radiant Plume (Belo'ren)

those 3 trinkets are wildly better than anyt of the other ones

[astral root]

if you spend a voidcore on a +10 it gives myth track loot

so higher ilvl

[sly merlin]

puzzlebox is fine too it’s just annoying to use

[astral root]

for sure, and if getting myth track heart/plume is not possible for you, then a myth puzzlebox is the play

[sly merlin]

myth heart should be pretty easy i’ve just been unlucky myself

[heavy yacht]

yeah i don't raid

[astral root]

but hero track Gaze sims better than any other trinket at any other item level for Fury. So you 100% need one

[sly merlin]

last week and this week the group imploded after vor

[astral root]

a lot of your best gear comes from raid

[sly merlin]

i mean u should raid at least first 2/3 voidspire m

[astral root]

expect your DPS to suffer if you dont.

[sly merlin]

it’s easy and good loot for us

[warm crag]

first 3 voidspire and chim is piss easy and gives you 2 vault

gives you all the trinkets you need

[heavy yacht]

do you just pug those raids? lol

[sly merlin]

yes

[dapper goblet]

you know i got my bis trinket yesterday 2 hours before we killed the boss

[sly merlin]

i do

[astral root]

im in a guild, personally

[dapper goblet]

bucket is a scam

[astral root]

but you do what you gotta do haha

[heavy yacht]

idk i'm kinda discouraged lol

[astral root]

also, @heavy yacht Enchant your gear

[astral root]

not everyone plays at the top level

otherwise there wouldnt be a top level

play the game, have fun, enjoy yourself

its a game

[heavy yacht]

i don't really wanna be top level i just dont wanna suck in keys haha

[sly merlin]

then def enchant

[astral root]

def enchant haha

[sly merlin]

go sim the leg enchant things vs not having them kinda crazy

for 4k

[astral root]

enchant your gear, fix your stats, get better trinkets (SERIOUSLY, these are actually really important)

[earnest tiger]

chest/leg/weapon/ring enchants are pretty universally infinitely better time investment than anything else you can do in the game

significant dps upgrade for some gold you can get in a couple hours of world quests and whatever else

[astral root]

Your fiber trinket is like... really bad

[dense elbow]

prob should also throw uptime in there. You be suprised how many shoots themselves in the foot by low uptime

[astral root]

solarflare prism isnt terrible

but killing Heroic Chimaerus in a pug is generally easy

[heavy yacht]

yeah i have prism

[astral root]

and again, 276 max level Gaze from chim

[sly merlin]

heroic gaze is better than most trink

[astral root]

is better than EVERY other trinket, no matter the item level

[sly merlin]

i’m pretty sure

[dense elbow]

Mythic Chim, is basically a HC boss, so do that too

[sly merlin]

yeah it’s super easy

[astral root]

it is better

[smoky vale]

not to put you on blast but i clicked on a random log and you pressing raging blow

...

[sly merlin]

only gonna get better

no bt…

[astral root]

ooooooooooooooh, yea that'll do it too

[dense elbow]

To be fair, RB got a cool sound effect

[astral root]

@heavy yacht Fury doesnt like Raging Blow anymore

[sly merlin]

i press raging blow too but only when i cant press like anything else

[smoky vale]

so uh

[astral root]

literally lowest prio button

[heavy yacht]

ah 🥲 lol

[smoky vale]

need to review your rotation

[astral root]

Jas, you on rn?

[modest condor]

damn 0 bloodthirsts 100 raging blows

[heavy yacht]

yes

[smoky vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZyYVvCF4jKGar7hx?fight=8&type=casts&source=512&view=timeline

[astral root]

un momento

[heavy yacht]

but not for long

[astral root]

thats fine, i dont need long

[earnest tiger]

I know it's kinda irrelevant and I can just check manually, but the Lu'ra Ring/Neck not having 2nd gem slot in droptimizer is kinda funny, thought it would have been fixed by now - I guess it's some weird limitation on their end

[spare steppe]

Sometimes I have no buttons left and I have to push rb and it makes me think of last season

[astral root]

Ladies and gents, i am happy to say with a simple rotation fix, Jas seems to be doing quite a bit better damage wise

[smoky vale]

big

[willow obsidian]

Of course it broke. 😂 thanks for looking it up for me!

[silver moth]

Allo o/
Our Fury warrior has been struggling with DPS most of this season, he is new to retail and I am trying to guide him, but I have no experience with Fury. I would appreciate if someone take a look at this Kill (and/or the wipes) on M-Vorasius and let me know how I can best guide him to finding more success. Thank you Fury discord!
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qBD4YhcVFvdfTabw?fight=17&type=damage-done

[unkempt oasis]

Are they trying to get better or are you trying to make them get better?

[silver moth]

lol its legitimately both

Good guy with a good attitude and seems very open to learning and feedback

we like this one

Last thing I want to do for this guy's sake is try and examine his logs vs another players and give him bad/ignorant advice

[sly merlin]

i didn’t really look too hard ngl but dosent look like he’s really trying to parse his boss dam looks okay/good for fury i think? and hes not trying to nuke adds for big parse

could be a little wrong just a quick glance

[sullen dove]

seems like pretty low bloodbath

as a main thing

[unkempt oasis]

It is decent but low bt.

[sullen dove]

dont think its really incorrect to do a compare to a top log and at minimum look at cast differences

obv cant like solely compare cuz one might be padding alot more on adds but even just looking at boss dmg vs boss dmg

only like 14k behind on boss from one of the top logs so not that horrible probably but just in general guy on the right has 10 more bloodbaths and he killed the boss a minute faster

bb should be like number 1 or 2 button you press during cooldowns

[modest condor]

he seems to like pressing multiple rampages in a row even when he's not above 100 rage

[sly merlin]

i have that problem myself sadly

[unkempt oasis]

Rampage is a fun button to hit

[sly merlin]

trying to rectify it myself it helps a lot

[winter shoal]

I would not trust pug tanks on salhadaar

[sly merlin]

yeah i know ..

[nova zenith]

Keep in mind that something could happen beyond their control such as getting targeted with a mechanic that forces them stop DPS to address, such as running out to drop a puddle during Crown, made all the more sucktacular because they just popped Recklessness/Avatar.

[silver moth]

Hey all, thanks for the quick look! this is some data and guidance I can bring back to him

[royal copper]

Stupid question:

If i craft two weapons; is it possible to stack this embelishments? On main and off

[woven valley]

You don’t wanna craft two weapons

But yes it can stack iirc

[cerulean badger]

Is there any reason to Play fury over Arms on crown myth ?

[summer quail]

more survivability i guess. but that's about it

[woven valley]

Honestly just play what you’re more comfortable with. Arms and fury are both kind of stank atm

[odd crater]

Vibes

[cerulean badger]

Im just gonna suffer for the Rest of the Prog, right ? 🥲

[delicate rock]

If we dont See buffs next week , yes

[cerulean badger]

Make fury Great again

This feels Like tww season 1

[heavy yacht]

yo @astral root i enchanted some gear and repracticed with your advice and i hit higher numbers and was able to maintain it. my issue really was rotation. i still had TWW muscle memory

[olive wraith]

Nowhere close lmao

[earnest tiger]

Post nerf S1 yes

But we didn't even get hard nerfs this time we just were mid and slowly dropped to below mid

[warm crag]

post nerf s1 you still had a reason to be brought to prog

this is something else ye

[earnest tiger]

It's never gonna be better though, there are simply too many specs in the game, already 27 dps specs vs 20 raid spots total, someone (read: ~10-15 specs) have to be the loser

And its 2026, people will never ever be not meta-brained ever again

Best case to combat this they would just have to stealth-homogenize like literally 10-15 specs to be effectively the exact same numbers/rotation/etc with different spell names/visual effects/sounds - and even that sounds ridiculously hard / if not completely out of reach of current day blizzard budget priorities

[supple axle]

Should I be using thunderclap instead of whirlwind while running thane cleave or AOE? Is there a macro to use that would choose one or the other based on if it is available?

[oak peak]

In thane you essentially never press whirlwind

[sly merlin]

i don’t have ts bound on thane

just clap

[undone flower]

You should unbind whirlwind as thane

And put thunderclap on the same bind

[astral root]

hell yea 🙂

[supple axle]

ty guys

[brittle crow]

can you get into parhelion plaza below lvl 90?

the door is shut

lmaoooo im a dumbass

[odd crater]

Don’t worry I did the same shit lol

I already know what door you tried to get into lol

[keen kindle]

To go off of this, make sure shared action bars are off

[tepid beacon]

saw a guide and one of the rings they recommended was a gem for +16 vers, don't you want to focus mainly on mastery + haste? I thought Vers was a low prio stat

[snow edge]

Gear (including gems) is always dependent on your own individual setup

BiS / recommended gear lists are just a rough guide - always sim your own setup

[tepid beacon]

ahh fair

ty

[gritty locust]

in raid with bloodlust and all buffs pots going on, is it bad to spam rampage twice or even 3 times in a row if possible when you don't have rage problems?
It feels like rampage does more dmg then mixing it with a execute/raging blow for example

[tepid beacon]

yea I usually sim tbh, just wondered as was wondering why they'd add vers

[sullen dove]

for the 0.15% crit effect per gem color diamond

[tepid beacon]

but you made a good point

[sullen dove]

can sim if its good

but prolly not crazy

[serene socket]

Its called "Frogski's Instant Cast Bar". Youll need to manually add any of your "abilities that replace other abilities" to the addons "spell base gcd override" list in the addon menu. Things like thunder blast, bloodbath, etc. Game code lists them as 0 GCD so it messes with the addon otherwise

[smoky vale]

its only good if you have like 5 slots or something

does my evoker become schnappi or gio67

@eternal sundial

[shadow crater]

What do both dps warrior specs cds look like with anger management reduction? Actual cd?

[smoky vale]

45

well kinda

idk it depends

[frail prism]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

Still waiting patiently for that blue post that says fury getting giga buffed

[faint gazelle]

is it just me, or do the sims not reflect actual in game performance for fury? maybe it is bugged and needs a fix rather than a buff

my sims say my gear does wild things compared to whats happening in game

[upbeat cedar]

generally wont reflect actual in game performance for any spec because its under the perfect conditions

[warm crag]

if you think the sim is bugged or does not model the game properly you can try gathering some proof in logs

[faint gazelle]

yeah but my arms sims are pretty close to actual game performance, not perfect, but like 20-30% closer than fury

[upbeat cedar]

the margins is where u decide if its due to whats actually happening on the fight or if its you

[faint gazelle]

and i am playing fury just as well, if not better than arms

[warm crag]

what are you actually comparing? target dummy sims?

[faint gazelle]

guru dungeon routes

[olive wraith]

Drop a sim and a log

[warm crag]

is that those sims that model a dungeon route

[faint gazelle]

yes

[olive wraith]

Never heard of guru

[warm crag]

yea i mean those were never reliable to begin with

[visual vale]

RAidbot shows me 63k dps as 276 fury on a 5 min patchwerk no raidbuffs(only battle shout)
I cant understand why im doing 57k on a raid dummy.
or its normal fluctuation?

also it shows me 225k on a 5 targets with no raid buffs same, when I do 250k
wtf

[warm crag]

unsure if the raid dummy can parry but that wont account for a 10% difference

[visual vale]

all tests are done on silvermoon dummies

[faint gazelle]

I will run a dungeon tonight with the same simmed route from keystone guru and we can compare

[warm crag]

you could be looking at variance since your sample size is literally 1 (or low 10s which isnt enough) or you are straight up misplaying your rotation

[visual vale]

for 15, 30 and 50 mil dmg done

[faint gazelle]

just feels like there is some issue with the sims on fury compared to a lot of other specs

[warm crag]

i mean are you actually sure you're doing the same thing as a guru route

[faint gazelle]

you can create it exact

[warm crag]

theres a reason dungeon slice sims aren't maintained for most specs

[faint gazelle]

to a degree

ill run the dungeon and replicate it best i can

[warm crag]

no i know you can tell the sim to face x enemies for x time but you cant tell the sim to hold cds for this pack or hold them a tiny bit for executioner sentence (or whatever the cleave execute talent is called)

[olive wraith]

Does it follow the apl correctly

[warm crag]

or rather you can tell it to do that, but you gotta write your own APL for that

[visual vale]

also 276 ilvl even with raidbuffs optimal raidbot shows only 86k dps, isnt it too low for such ilvl?

[warm crag]

it will its just a sim with a certain enemy chain

[visual vale]

ST

[sly merlin]

no

[warm crag]

with shit itemization and trinkets yeah thats plausible fury just does shit ST

[sly merlin]

prolly not

[olive wraith]

Genuinely never heard of this thing so was just curious

[visual vale]

i do have only one good trinket(heroic heart) other is chim shit trinket(not the good one)

[warm crag]

idk if this is the exact thing i saw but it just takes the log of an m+ key and creates an advanced sim that has the sim fight the same "route" of enemies you fought

there exists no APL that optimizes for this sort of thing

[visual vale]

actually i tested Arms ST slayer build and i did same ST dmg in full fury gear( i dont have arms gear yet)
maybe its just as it is

[faint gazelle]

even if its not 100% correct, if you use the same 'route' for both arms and fury, they get almost identical results in terms of dps, but in game, there is a 20% difference in dps

[warm crag]

how are you accounting for user error

or the dungeon taking a different pacing due to your different damage profiles as fury or arms

[faint gazelle]

i cant imagine that would contribute to the large difference in actuals, but it is a factor for sure

warrior brain cells not big enough to figure it out, it just feels very off

[warm crag]

idk man i consider myself a really good player and top m+ers will shit out 20-30% more dps than me

[faint gazelle]

im not comparing myself to other classes, im comparing the sims

feels like the arms sims are a lot more accurate than fury atm

[warm crag]

okay but your only data point is your own performance here

[faint gazelle]

hence why im looking if there is a fury bug and the sims are giving bad data

[smoky vale]

sims are and never will be an indication of real world

[faint gazelle]

correct, thats why i asked if anyone else is getting the same feeling about this as me

[smoky vale]

and how does the sim account for other actors in the route

like

[faint gazelle]

the actual route isnt as relevant as that though, you can use any other type of default sim

[smoky vale]

just sim your guy for st and move on

[olive wraith]

I think the main point here is that there’s not much validity in this type of sim

[faint gazelle]

fury seems to be 'keeping up' with arms for example

but in reality its not

[warm crag]

the only inconsistency ive seen is that arms technically sims worse than fury in 5-8 target aoe iirc

but ive chalked it up to the sim not being able to properly extract value from that cleave execute talent

[smoky vale]

how do you sim for prio damage that arms is doing

that fury isnt

which lets you chain faster

and do more damage

[sly merlin]

i notices this too

didn’t know why doe

[faint gazelle]

maybe this is it tbh

[slim coral]

its fucking dead

lets FUCKING GOOOOOOO

[spark coral]

Gz

[slim coral]

@dapper goblet FUCK your voodoo boss dead

[dapper goblet]

looking bottom right

[bronze merlin]

1

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

sorry I'm not a dk or dev dh or warlock

[dapper goblet]

didnt stop the other dps warriors from being on the meters

[slim coral]

yeah well we stood kind of out of melee of the boss in one part of p4

unlucky

[dim spindle]

Surely he's at a nice comfortable and well balanced #9

[blazing acorn]

under bloodlust or just high haste i can't see cooldown of my abilities correctly, just random pew pew.( what to do? i tried spellqueuewindow 300 didn't help.(((

[dapper goblet]

riiiiiiiight

[dim spindle]

Let him have this one, Mrs. Spice

sorry... Miss Spice

[slim coral]

you can see in the vod

I'm spamming to ht boss but cant hit

[dapper goblet]

uh huh

[slim coral]

see how abilities greyed out

litearlly cannot hit anything

[sullen dove]

cuz they're on cooldown?

[slim coral]

I tried

?

[sullen dove]

nothings grayed out but ur cds

[slim coral]

execute is not on cd

[warm crag]

does combat reset in p4 or why are you trying to pull up 2 gcds where you dont have reach

[dapper goblet]

press w and move up to hit the boss challenge

[slim coral]

execute

tardis

[sullen dove]

raging blow and bt not grey..

.hmm..

[summer quail]

can you not just walk up a little bit

[slim coral]

idk I was just staying pixel stacked

not really worth greeding when you do more damage just living

[dapper goblet]

so bt and rb have longer range than execute huh..

[sullen dove]

truth nuke

every live person = 450k dps for existing

[slim coral]

truth nuke for sure

[sullen dove]

healer dps huge

[slim coral]

true

[summer quail]

i guess fury does no damage anyway

[dense elbow]

How to avoid Fury being bad dps. Dont play with the 1% be happy

[slim coral]

the real truth nuke

[sullen dove]

"you are not playing arms get on fury" 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[misty edge]

wtf is this

[sullen dove]

mickey mouse p4

why is the bear doing no dmg tho?

[slim coral]

well you see I had one spot I couldnt dps from

This ring is kinda of op tho

might equip it

[sullen dove]

mid ring

[warm crag]

didnt bonus roll to make prog easier

self report

[sullen dove]

nexus 2pc better

[slim coral]

I had all my bis on myth track tbh

[warm crag]

clearly you didnt have nexus 2p

[slim coral]

I do

[misty edge]

one spot you couldnt dps from? for what 6 minutes? wtf does that mean

[woven valley]

Dragons down wooo just 4 bosses left for the tier

[sullen dove]

gz

[vast gorge]

how much better is mythic gaze if i already have heroic version? Im thinking of using my bonus rolls on m+ loot and just wait for loot council to give me the trinket from raid.

[warm crag]

have you simmed it

[vast gorge]

i can, just wanted to see what you guys thought

[warm crag]

i think the sim will give you a good answer

but also almost your entire raid will want gaze and everyone else will be a better target than you

[vast gorge]

we had like 7 people get trinket this week so theres less competition for it now

[warm crag]

assuming proper loot councelling you should probably bonus roll it so someone else can get the gaze

warr is just not that good rn y

[woven valley]

Hero to max upgrade myth gaze was 800 dps for me but yeah sim always always

[vast gorge]

yeah we had 3 warriors including myself. one rerolled and myself and the other are either swapping for each other or getting benched.

we arent doing bad either, we just arent doing the same numbers as the other classes

[toxic jewel]

fury gettin buffed or what

[spare flame]

lol

[olive wraith]

🔮

[toxic jewel]

archi needs to give them the mean face

[winter shoal]

that one?

[toxic jewel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/annoyed-angry-4--k01KQDZHXS5FM4GHY0EZBHQ2RJ6

this one

[olive wraith]

Only Archi had that much weight in balancing

[toxic jewel]

ok but hear me out

make bladestorm work with AM again

as it is on hte same choice node

[gleaming crag]

can't we just shut down the discord and demand buffs?

[fiery edge]

Slowly liking outlaw

[south lintel]

Next season boys

[toxic jewel]

season 3

we always gotta wait til the last season lol

[spare steppe]

rolled successfully for a mythic heart!

[merry lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[gleaming crag]

uh oh

cant even jump ship to arms X-D

[coarse nest]

[odd crater]

Imagine leaving fury

Who would do that

[spare steppe]

where are yall spending your bonus rolls once you have both mythic trinkets?

[faint gazelle]

weapon first, then npx, then seat

[gleaming crag]

I had to get a myth track weapon so I did mgt, then been trying for the myth hands with shadow dmg.

[reef merlin]

Does it matter if we set out loot spec to arms or fury?

[spare steppe]

nah

yall targeting the double rings in npx?

and yeah I guess i'll look for a second myth weapon

[gleaming crag]

fury will get you 1h possibly

[unkempt oasis]

Why do you want a second myth weapon?

[modest condor]

no

[gleaming crag]

since when ?

[sullen dove]

this expansion when they killed smf

[modest condor]

since we dont have smf anymore

[blissful delta]

rip

[inland flame]

cosmetic SMF isnt too bad a deal tbh

[sullen dove]

yea smf fans were just actual liars

classic is right around the corner

but tmogging it is chill now if u want the look

[inland flame]

last time I did it for real was Throne of Thunder and I don't even remember if it was actually good

there are benefits to using two 1-handers but honestly it's not too bad rn with Valorstones gone n how upgrades work and stuff

[spare steppe]

double arcanoweave + double mythic should theoretically be better

[unkempt oasis]

Did it sim better for you? I got a second myth weapon, but I'm not using it because it simmed worse.

[hybrid cargo]

i mean doesnt that gaurantee over capping ur top stat?

[winter shoal]

stat caps aren't real

[woven valley]

just sim yourself

[winter shoal]

but also double myth weapon probably isn't real

[woven valley]

thats honestly the game these days

[spare steppe]

gonna do some sims

[hybrid cargo]

then why is half our raid bis hav crit on it when there are hast mastery options??

[spare steppe]

realistically ill get the pit 2h for arms

[woven valley]

because eventually crit is slightly better than mastery cause you hit the soft cap

there are soft caps but they never decide exactly what you want

[winter shoal]

"stat caps aren't real" in that you don't need to worry about how much of a particular stat you have now or want to have in the future; the value of your stats is influenced by how much of other stats you have

in either case, you just equip the gear that sims the best with what you have available

[woven valley]

its always based on what you have and what you need more of at that exact moment in time

[winter shoal]

BIS lists assume you have that entire set of gear exactly

[woven valley]

yep what big said

bis is just a rough guide

do a droptimizer and see whats the biggest percent ups for you

and go for those

[hybrid cargo]

i was just curious cuz crit items already sim better

for me

thats all

[woven valley]

also main stat is goated this xpac

so if its higher ilvl itll be better a lot of the time

[hybrid cargo]

yea i jsut mean in the vein of double arcano weave idk seems like it shouldnt be that good compared to another embishment you get full value out of

[wise wren]

what is the goal mastery/haste % for fury mountain thane?

[winter shoal]

see previous discussion

the goal amount is however much raidbots dot com slash topgear tells you

[woven valley]

isnt arcano main stat?

[winter shoal]

it is

[woven valley]

main stat is good, you can never go over main stat cap cause that doesnt exist

[woven valley]

no "goals" just sim items or run a overall droptimizer, i am at 283 ilvl and im sitting at 19/24/48/1 respectively to the stats

but you may want different stats based on what gear you have

[hybrid cargo]

i must be confusing it something else 😛

[woven valley]

the weapon embel is side stat

that must be the one youre thinking of

[thorny jewel]

So.... since 12.5 has already out, we're just fucked for the rest of S1 right? 🙁

[woven valley]

probably

but you never know it seems they are focused on bug fixes first cause they fucked so much with the .5

[bitter palm]

got nerfed

dont worry

[woven valley]

after that they may do some tuning

[unkempt oasis]

arms flew to close to the sun

[sly merlin]

halfway done my 18s as fury we are going up

[thorny jewel]

Arms is not doing great either.

Oh, in M+ we are decent, and that's good, but we are absolute dogshit in the raids

[woven valley]

yeah the raid this time is like designed to be anti fury

[thorny jewel]

I don't think we've ever been absolute bottom

[woven valley]

not to this degree

[unkempt oasis]

we are pretty decent in some fights

[woven valley]

we have been close

[sly merlin]

m+ is pretty ok but it soft requires at least half a physical comp lowkey

[woven valley]

i mean mplus requires your tank pull a lot but not A LOT

to do well as fury

too slow and you do no damage

too much and you also do no damage

[frozen scarab]

too much u randomly get all the aggro and get touched

[woven valley]

yeah for how borked our damage is we take aggro way too easy lol

[regal aurora]

turns out this whole time fury couldnt shine because theres some secret threat bug that blizzard cant fix so we're forced into mediocrity

[spare steppe]

welp double 2h isnt real

[thorny jewel]

Yeah, doing an AA, tree boss room, with lust, all pots, flasks, food etc. Unholy pulls over 1million, I do 400k.

[spare steppe]

boo

[sullen dove]

???

[woven valley]

i feel your pain. i think the highest ive done is like.....450k? ish and other classes can sleep and do more

[winter shoal]

Send in a ticket so that claude can tell you to kick rocks in 5 business days

[sullen dove]

thats actually like

astronomical no

[thorny jewel]

Yeah, and yes, to repeat, we are decent in M+, where there have been too many past seasons where we have been garbage in keys. But we need something in raids. Buffs to ST damage.

[sullen dove]

1/6 bonus roll... like 2/5 to get chest loot and 1/6 it being that staff, then whatever % chance getting a warbound item times also another 1/6 being that staff

or wait u can get any piece as warbound right? not just for your spec?

[winter shoal]

yeah

[sullen dove]

i could get like random plate warbound true or no as evoker

idr

[sly merlin]

this is da overall from the 18mt i jkust did

[thorny jewel]

Not complaining about m+

[woven valley]

slayer needs so much love

[cinder oasis]

man, I am glad I am heroic raider these days cause this tuning is sad

[woven valley]

like the desync of our cds is bad bad. they need to reign that in otherwise they have to make each cd be way stronger to make up for it

[cinder oasis]

got a 95 on bird cheese strat on heroic and still was like dead last during the egg phase

[jovial mauve]

my guild is starting to prog m vorasius and that shit is depressing

[woven valley]

OH dont worry it gets worse

[thorny jewel]

Yeah, I have shit parses on bird, because I have never killed it in one phase. But ST we are at the bottom. Your 95 is only vs other fury wars

[jovial mauve]

I know it does

[thorny jewel]

M Vorasius is another absolute terrible fight for fury wars

[cinder oasis]

yeah I am considering learning Arms just to make farm kills more consistent

[jovial mauve]

our dps is incredibly tight for that fight which means if I'm going to be a good team member I need to swap to arms if I'm going to help get us closer

[spare steppe]

i did arms for vorasius

[jovial mauve]

its super unfortunate

[spare steppe]

but fury is at least better than arms for saladhar (where we just started)

[thorny jewel]

I might do arms, I have played all specs plenty over the years, but arms is not great either

All warrior dps is pretty crap in raids right now

[woven valley]

im sticking with fury cause its what i know

[jovial mauve]

I just dont understand why blizz is so afraid to just give us a blanket buff right now

[woven valley]

i havent played arms since DF borked it

[jovial mauve]

we're so behind we need it

would love to talk to a class designer at blizzard just to understand what goes on in the thought process of a spec being in the dumpster for months at a time

[woven valley]

we havent had a proper class dev in years

[unkempt oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-margarita-ville-stock-market-wheel-headless-gif-17896977

[woven valley]

like the fact warrior hasnt had a remake in like a full decade should tell you that we arent a priority. we are a Wrath class with 7 layers of paint on us

[dawn dawn]

yo, would you ever craft the darkmoon card's in myth? they seem to sim pretty well, but are there any obvious downsides?

[vast saffron]

Hey, can y'all lock the Arms/Fury channels until Blizzard buffs DPS Warrior? Pretty please? Because my guild's warrior is giga depressed on L'ura rn

(/s obviously but good lord it's miserable)

[jovial mauve]

we're all miserable

[regal aurora]

okay so whats wild is my internet cut just as you asked that and ong I thought it happened. the scream i scrumpt

[winter shoal]

show them @compact knot log

[compact knot]

hi

[vast saffron]

Hey hey, grats on your kill.

[compact knot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bkfrpjDQFw796d3c?fight=17&type=damage-done

[woven valley]

im depressed and im only on pally fight lol

[compact knot]

just give it a bit of time

and they will think it is their favorite boss

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-white-rabbit-gif-13308924322367947549

[thorny basin]

so I just gotta play arms got it

[compact knot]

yeah dont play fury

cringe spec

[vast saffron]

Nah he's playing Arms

[slim coral]

Much better name btw

Than Triple whatever it was

[compact knot]

i kinda disagree

but uh

2 months

[vast saffron]

I guess we'll get there eventually, but we're 158 pulls deep and barely seeing P2 because P1 is pure insanity.

[compact knot]

i can make it better

xdd

[slim coral]

FuryFeralFreak or whatever it was

[compact knot]

something something something

[slim coral]

I'm just so glad to be free man

[compact knot]

i need to relink on discord

[slim coral]

1 rank behind you now

gotta lock in

[compact knot]

gg

[slim coral]

did you see what happened when we killed it?

[compact knot]

nah

what happeend

lvling diddy demon hunter

with 1 monitor

[slim coral]

well you were watching leadros hhow did you miss it xD

but for some reason our warlock was like visually skipping around cause of desync

[compact knot]

oh wait

he is the same guild as you

yeah i did see that

idk someone linked it and i just like opened it and tabbed out

then they killed it

lfg

[slim coral]

yeah he is

[wheat lantern]

choker decent once stats are evened out ? atm sims are neck piece

im fishing for nexus rings so im not gonna take legs

[frozen scarab]

are bonus rolls charascter or warband locked

like the voidcores

[pearl sequoia]

character

[frozen scarab]

yippie

[upper drum]

hey my fury DPS has been rlly bad lately, anyone care to give me some tips. In raids specifically.

Im putting CDs off cooldown, and doing this prio. Im using slayer most of the time. Understand fight to fight is slightly diff. But just based off 2nd boss of voidspire. Im doing.

Ramp > BT/BB > RB > Exec

[faint gazelle]

timing odyns and padding on adds is how you get good logs unfortunately

[drowsy heron]

Exec above RB

RB is pure filler now

TB and TC in Avatar are stronger than RB atm

oh your playing slayer

still, RB pure filler

[upper drum]

do u recco using MT?

[drowsy heron]

yea Thane is just generally stronger in almost everything atm

[upper drum]

damn

cld u share a prio for MT?

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[dawn dawn]

thane winning ST :o?

oop sorry wrong reply

[drowsy heron]

the wowhead has a decent one

[dawn dawn]

we thane maxxing for all content rn?

[drowsy heron]

i think slayer is SLIGHTLY ahead of Thane in ST, but its not enough to warrant running it over Thane in current content

[upper drum]

i thought slyaer multi is better than MT in raid?

based off this as well

[winter shoal]

If the adds live like 2-3 seconds

[drowsy heron]

pretty sure the numbers are close enough to run either one

[regal aurora]

For clarity, you're saying slayer > mt for multi if adds live 2-3 seconds?

[drowsy heron]

plus Thane tends to pad better so the meters are going to favor it most of the time

[winter shoal]

Slayer gets out its aoe burst faster, but it generally bursts a little lower, so if adds would only surive a very short period of time, slayer can have better aoe dps in practice than it would on paper relative to thane

But also for heroic raid like who cares just play whatever you want

[regal aurora]

Gotcha. Adds die stupid fast in my raid.

[upper drum]

ya

that being said, im 276 with Crit: 16%, Haste: 23%, Mastery: 44%, Vers: 4% and im still not top 10 dps

everyones around the same gear score

[woven valley]

you wont be top 10 if everyone is same ilvl in your raid

fury bad

[upper drum]

worth the change to arms?

[woven valley]

i mean the diff is not that big sadly

arms and fury are both stank atm

but arms is better on paper

[vast gorge]

arms is not good enough for me to regear from haste/mastery to crit/haste

[woven valley]

pretty much my stance

too much time sink for not enough reward

[frank dawn]

tuning notes on friday for sure

fooooooor sure

[woven valley]

i wish lol

[frank dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/matt-amodio-amodio-wink-sly-wink-jeopardy-gif-11576521946337722760

[verbal garden]

During CDs do you worry about capping rage to get more BBs in or no? Looking at other peoples logs I'm not getting nearly as many BB in even though I prio it and I think its because I'm trying not to cap?

[frozen scarab]

low rated relaxed keys holy shit avoid at all costsd

absolute melts

[sullen dove]

yea ngl that relaxed title is like 90% of the time signifying "this key is not being timed"

and its not like i care about not timing keys for the sake of io or anything but i just simply do not want to spend 35 minutes in a +12

[frozen scarab]

i mean i blame the person who made the grouo

inviting a 803 tank for a 9 key lmao

1 pack andy

these guys dont even know the mechs

[bitter palm]

i put relaxed always

3 chested a 10 algethar with big timmas

[frozen scarab]

meanwhile my tanks dont move out of pools

[bitter palm]

tank drought...

just play prot warr and press shield block

and u can tank a 10 at lvl 80

[frozen scarab]

i dont even bother typing to them

one word and they prob just leave xd

[sullen dove]

yea i end first adds at like 170-180k maybe if lucky and i see the shaman peak like 400k

very cool

2nd adds tho it evens out alot more tho

[bitter palm]

colo does 300k

imagine if colo full st at 283 was outsimming my 264 ret pala

tuning would make sense maybe

[frozen scarab]

44 min ws just for no loot lets go

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

44 min hooooooly

[frozen scarab]

not a single one of tghem

kinew the mechs

+9.

how do u guys play on alts lol

this shit reeks

[spare steppe]

My alt is a healer

Otherwise I always be zugging

[frozen scarab]

maybe its just a late night thing 🙂

[dry halo]

This

Need gear just take up that shield and hold down W key

[grand vale]

What is this, off spec bashing of your own class? That's kinda low isn't it

[compact knot]

when prot can play colossus itll be cool again

otherwise thane sucks

[grand vale]

it can wtf

Especially after 12.0.5 it's perfectly viable

[compact knot]

you could but that doesnt mean its optimal

[sly merlin]

barely failed my mc18 on last boss of all things

fuccc

[thorny basin]

and as everyone knows if youre not playing optimally you might as well not play at all

[queen aspen]

When will fury be competitive against Devourer DH ?

My boy sending litteral cosmic stars while I clap the floor loudly

[olive wraith]

Next expac maybe

Blizz gotta cater to the new spec

[queen aspen]

[echo rapids]

Surely there will be some tuning this week

[compact knot]

never

ddh is just a better fury warrior

better, cooler, more mobile, tankier, more satisfying to play

ranged

[bitter palm]

doesnt have kill or be killed

so its not cooler

👍

[compact knot]

apook should have taken that for the l'ura kill

so he could be a 2nd bdk

chills

[simple mural]

5 voidcore rolls into algethar and no puzzlebox. At least theres only two more possible items. Should I take the myth helm in my vault since I only have a hero helm right now, knowing I can get myth puzzlebox gauranteed next week with the voidcores, or take a voidcore from my vault rn and roll one more time

[echo rapids]

Are you doing any mythic raids?

Dreamrift

[unkempt oasis]

You can't win at gambling if you don't play

[echo rapids]

Someone in my team forgot to get their roll tokens before Chimearus and couldn’t roll, would have been the guaranteed gaze drop. I thought they were gonna rage quit

[queen aspen]

What would be the correct way to buff fury warrior atm
Even more rampage damage ?

[simple mural]

no mythic raids, i wanted to start trying to pug mythic dreamrift tho

[eternal sundial]

Schnappi

167%

[echo rapids]

Buffs to our individual single target abilities

[smoky vale]

youd have to nerf meat cleaver

[worthy yarrow]

hmm

do i use BR on magister first?

for myth weapon

[indigo arch]

can start with making rampaging ruin not a joke talent that needs a macro to be used, at least m+wise

buff odyn's fury to not be anemic trash

or idk, revert us to tww s3

[supple lotus]

yep

[indigo arch]

literally anything but this shit

fuck arms

wanna play fury

[echo rapids]

-5% or-10% to meat cleaver, ramp/execute/BT buffed by 20%

[bitter palm]

would you tho

[smoky vale]

yes and buff ms by 100%

[worthy yarrow]

@smoky vale

im like 250 ilvl

wiht 5 BR

[lost saffron]

Sim and use it on biggest upgrade

[smoky vale]

sim raid and m+ droptimizer

give me a sec

i send a webite

[lost saffron]

Gio57 teaching moment

[smoky vale]

wghen lura die

https://dropr.thaudal.com/voidcore

put in the droptimizers here

idk how itll work if you have to dodifferent for raid or m_

[lost saffron]

That seems wild

[smoky vale]

why its organized prretty

[lost saffron]

Oh it tells you when to bonusroll

thats useful

[sly merlin]

what’s the rampaging ruin macro purpose

like what it do

[worthy yarrow]

ty ill check aftyer dunbg

[smoky vale]

@lost saffron

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

[lost saffron]

Just looks like raidbots

[smoky vale]

ig

[lost saffron]

but the ability to give you ingame reminder is nice

[smoky vale]

but cant do raid and m+ together

like have to move tabs

[lost saffron]

Yeh i mean its nice

useful

[smoky vale]

when lura die

[lost saffron]

Sunday

I want to adjust my cooldowns

[smoky vale]

what you are

[lost saffron]

But im not sure if its better

[smoky vale]

playhing

red?

[lost saffron]

Ret yeh

[smoky vale]

that spink

[lost saffron]

We also have 2 warriors

doing kicks

[smoky vale]

rip spongie

you guys are 2d 2 split 7h ?

[lost saffron]

no split

But like 2.5 days

some weeks its 3d

[smoky vale]

i mean still good

esp for your prog

i was watching xeph today

good radio

[worthy yarrow]

oh i need raidbots premium for this right?

[smoky vale]

maybe

fuck it just dm me your simc

illd o it for you

[worthy yarrow]

ty kind sir

[raw bone]

Hey guys! on paladins MM, do you save OF for when the 3 are together? or do we simply use it on CD, hitting usually 2?

[lost saffron]

You specc arms

[fair widget]

Do you save bladestorm then for when the 3 are together

[lost saffron]

idk i dont play warrior

[compact knot]

you dont use bladestorm on that fight as either spec

xdd

[smoky vale]

^^^

you press ms and cleave

thats it

[fair widget]

I thought the clueless emoji would be recognized as sarcasm but warriors do get hit in the head a lot lol

[lost saffron]

Tough words coming from someone who doesnt know the difference between sarcasm and irony

[fair widget]

I specifically wanted to mock the spec arms in a fury channel, qualifies as sarcasm by the definition

[lost saffron]

Kinda weak mocking when you dont even know what youre mocking

[fair widget]

Let the man play fury and just tell him to onlyfans on cooldown, warrior is only brought for the raid buff anyways

[dense elbow]

Trolls trolling Trolls with a bit of troll is always fun to see

[fair widget]

No need to grief if we're in this state already

Spec prot would've been more on topic with the prot tech

[lost saffron]

warrior is actually brought for damage on vanguards

[compact knot]

can check lorrgs

^

my guild had 2 prot warriors and still brought me

arms shreds on that fight

[dense elbow]

Your guild needs help

[lost saffron]

arms fucks

[fair widget]

Im real happy for you buddy, what do they do with the rest of the lockout

[ornate gust]

😂

[compact knot]

full clear it

[lost saffron]

idk need to ask spongie about that

[compact knot]

then midnight falls

[compact knot]

it was good cause of spell reflect xdd

[lost saffron]

arms actually fucks on midnight falls too

unironically

[compact knot]

i think prot is the highest dps tank

[lost saffron]

does good dam

[compact knot]

i high rolled on my kill

[lost saffron]

Nah bear

[compact knot]

idk if its that good

[dense elbow]

On that fight only, surely

[compact knot]

its not good anymore cause of the deep wounds nerf

[lost saffron]

well bear for burst

[compact knot]

on lmidnight falls

[lost saffron]

which is all you need on lura and beloren

bear is straight up middle of the pack on egg damage

(of the dps)

[compact knot]

every log with a bear + dps warrior on beloren

the bear beats the dps warrior on the egg

there might be a arms log that beats bear

idk yet

[dense elbow]

Sounds like you should replace the warrior

[lost saffron]

if you play dps warrior on beloren

you either dont have a choice

or are inting

[compact knot]

idk bear + guardian seems very good for midnight falls

and u play for last boss

ok

not bear + guardian

bear + bdk

[dense elbow]

At this point of progress tho, you should be able to carry the "handicap"

[lost saffron]

I think thats a bad way of looking at it

[raw bone]

ok, guess i'll have to learn arms then

[lost saffron]

the worse a guild is the less they can carry bad classes

[dense elbow]

Bad guida aint on that boss either way

[smoky vale]

you bug abused!!!

[compact knot]

i did not do anything like this

??

even so without the bug abuse

[smoky vale]

Deep Wounds applied by Execute no longer deal double the intended damage.

[lost saffron]

yes but good guilds with less time wont waste time on carrying bad classes

[compact knot]

its still 183k dps according to swordfish

and i trust swordfish