fury

[olive wraith]

Demolish exists

Eye beam exists

[dense elbow]

So does DH tho

[olive wraith]

Dev dh exists

There’s classes with low gcd cost high burst

I mean isn’t pally crazy rn

[dense elbow]

Nah, not crazy

Only crazy one is havoc

[olive wraith]

Tww their ashes hammer combo was pretty nutty I think

[dense elbow]

Ye, does good dam, but it is mainly from the billion of effects

[oblique thistle]

would you really classify eye beam and demolish in the same realm as OF > BS from its hayday though?

[olive wraith]

Demolish is pretty freakin beefy. Idk 100% about eye beam

[oblique thistle]

dev dh has insane burst too sure but that has a ramp up time before you can even get to it so its a bit different

[olive wraith]

What’s the set up for it

[oblique thistle]

getting to void meta

once you're in void meta yeah you're blasting but thats the whole point of the spec

[olive wraith]

I have 0 knowledge on the class

So can you not just get into meta before ad phase

[oblique thistle]

I imagine you can, I guess it depends on the exact timing of when you send void meta

Either way I get the point that other classes also have insane burst on adds too

and fast burst too

My point is that Fury's burst seemed like something else entirely at the beginning of TWW s1, and we got completely course corrected away from that across the board as a result

[olive wraith]

I think the real problem is Blizz has no direction for fury (probably arms too)

[oblique thistle]

That I can agree with

Arms kinda feels close?

But fury seems like a blank slate rn

[hushed gust]

they succeeded in making OF feel unsatisfying this season, which is very hard to do for me.

[olive wraith]

It’s been pretty unsatisfying for a while now

[oblique thistle]

Signature ability

[hushed gust]

well, at least in WWi, you could hit it with other buttons, making it feel like a cap-off to the cooldown combo.

[olive wraith]

It’s been replaced

By iconic rend

[oblique thistle]

the iconic rend (that we dont press) 😄

[olive wraith]

Iconicly passive rend

[oblique thistle]

my favorite rend, tbh

[olive wraith]

5 bleeds btw

[oblique thistle]

🐱

spot the difference

[olive wraith]

We have more bleeds

[hearty sapphire]

1

[smoky vale]

MEOW

[unreal onyx]

Furious fighter with untelenting spirit & 9 lives vs noodle

[fair widget]

TWO noodle

[worn rain]

TWO BIG NOODLES

[subtle lynx]

Vault bought bonus rolls doesn't count against season total?

[sullen dove]

yes

[dapper goblet]

@sullen dove voodoo upon your bucket

[sullen dove]

you will perish for your crimes

have 4 mythic raid buckets yum

(6/4/2/2 slot)

main needs p much nothing but pit weap n alleria neck big crest save so low bar anyway

[sly merlin]

3 18s done before 17 aa

[compact knot]

who remembers when fury had burst 🥀 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HP84LgnRN2pcy69A?fight=21&type=damage-done

(smolderon normal 🥀 )

[rare forum]

damn, didnt play that tier, but that looks juicy

[radiant plank]

lowkey miss tindral..

[lean heart]

oh yeh that was when we played spear

[rare forum]

I just remember fury draught of souls in legion 😅

[uneven furnace]

I mostly played Fury in raid. Now progressing crown Mythic.
Should I start training Arms Slayer for it or Fury is fine?
I'm new in Arms and I started to train colossus for Paladins but I don't feel as comfortable as Fury. Ty

[crystal pond]

i missed that season.. most of it.. actually i didnt liked the idea of spamming bt to have odyns and odyns to have bt, it sounded a bit boring, but i didnt played eneugh time to get 4 pieces, i have to take a break during that season, but came back in the end and it was actuall prety fun, and in season 4 people were using half season 3 and half season 4 gear just because it boosted odyns so much

[compact knot]

i thought it was peak gameplay

raging blow sucks

bad button

[crystal pond]

100%crit on bloodbath xD

[stoic rampart]

pressing raging blow is the dps meter equivalent of being in the game and then having to take a breather in the good boy chair

[hushed ocean]

play what you feel comfy with. Especially for pals, the hard thing isn't the dps requirement, it's dodging shit

[crystal pond]

aactually i like to have raging blow as filler in the rotation, but it has to mean dmg.. i remember there was a point in time we would do bt on cooldown cleaving and fill the other 3 stacks of the ww cleave with rampage (when rage), execute (execute fase or proc) and raging blow

sometimes you would do 1 bt 1 rampage and 2 raging blow and it shown as dmg on meeter, and at that time you coud actuall feel execute, and you would prio low hp targets to press more executes to keep buff to deal more dmg and get more rage to deal more dmg xD

btw people complain about power coming from item procs etc.. but this was actually fun to see and to feel

all those procs felt something, now you get 0.2% total dps from the gear procs

like wtf

[compact knot]

it was probably even more on other bosses

this boss was very bursty

[stoic rampart]

i'm not nostalgic for anything from shadowlands besides heroic painsmith and banner fury in sepulcher, i kinda wish they'd kept a lore friendly version of banner on warrior

[tiny seal]

augury was way higher at times that shit was busted

[compact knot]

ik it was a normal parse but it gapped 2nd place by 300k i think

like 35% dps diff lmfao

smolderon was a goated boss

[crystal pond]

if im not wrong i remember sometimes between 4 and 5%

[compact knot]

augury could high roll

also

i believe i saw like 10% on some logs

[tiny seal]

yea

sometimes even 10% it was hella rng but felt good anyways

[crystal pond]

now we got some sick gloves with a sick efect... does 0.2% overall dmg.. and a sick tier set of rings... does 0.6% xD

[compact knot]

@crystal pond https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7PVbtnx6Ryg3qjHW?fight=34&type=damage-done&source=267

here is a more normal log at the time

its lik

liek

20% of my damage

from trinkets/weapon/helmet enchant/ring

tbf this is also the end of the expansion during a for fun season

so this SHOULD kinda be how my dps looks like

but this is also kinda how it looked like in season 3 of DF anyways

[crystal pond]

Love all those procs dmg.. but then you cry looking at onsloght ravager and execute

[radiant plank]

yeah I love rng man

[crystal pond]

you know that the dmg isnt right when that happans xD

its not the rng, its actually feeling dmg from the items you have

but then doesnt make sence those 3 buttons dealing such low dmg

bring back infinit scalling execute

x

[compact knot]

both those trinkets where extremely RNG and it was pretty cringe from what i remember

[crystal pond]

xD

[compact knot]

i remember constantly complaining that i literally couldnt parse on this boss because the top log had 10% from signet brand and 10% from augury

meanwhile mine only do half that

but i know what you are saying

[radiant plank]

Extremely cringe

[compact knot]

trinkets doing damage instead of stat procs was nice

[radiant plank]

getting 1% augur vs 11% augur

[compact knot]

and stuff like fyralath which i know some people hated because of the cast time, i thought it was fine

big fan of fyralath

[crystal pond]

they hatted because they died while casting.. not preparing a good position when casting

[compact knot]

also this log was before you ran 2 piece 2 piece i think

[crystal pond]

and the rng will always be there, if theres a "%" chance of this or that thats rng

[radiant plank]

I rmbr cheesing my fyralath casts to get big boss dam on tindral

[compact knot]

its hard to remember, 2pc 2pc might have been better on aoe and worse on pure st

[radiant plank]

so the channel ends when roots are dead

[compact knot]

oh yeah it scaled with targets like that

that was tuff

[crystal pond]

at the moment you can start a boss fight pop all cooldowns and have 4/5 procs of execute a put 2x cds on bl or have 1 execute proc and take 5 or 10 secs longer to use cooldowns again

fyralac on warrior was so easy to deal dmg, just ww around and all the adds would get the burn debuff

and you coud use it whenever cuz it woudnt get affected by any buffs

[worn rain]

Draught of souls called and said rookie numbers

[uneven furnace]

On thanks. And on crown, fury is ok? Idk if Arms slayer is hard to learn for this boss. I'm struggling with colossus in m+

[hushed ocean]

same answer

in a world where SP, Hunt, Devour, Pals, and lock exist, play what you want, disable your details, and just enjoy the moment

[surreal token]

687K WIPE ON BELO'REN

BECAUSE THE FUCKING EPSTEIN ISLAND VISITOR THAT IS OUR CLASS DEV

REFUSES TO GIVE US ANY FUCKING BURST

[uneven furnace]

This Midnight seasonfeels super frustrating compared to what I felt during TWW. Playing hard and fighting to get mid rank on details

[surreal token]

THIS CLASS IS A PRISON

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[uneven furnace]

Anyone forgot burdt potion or rune?

[edgy oasis]

any one else finding it impossible to make a group? let alone find one? I am 16/15 keys and everyone signing up is under 3k....who is signing up for other people if im not being picked! I dont have alot of time to play so when i do, sitting for 10-30mins forming a group is painful.

[worn rain]

10-30min

that is good number btw

[edgy oasis]

well fuk me sideways. I say 10-30...but currently i am on 25 mins forming a group....

[worn rain]

only solution is friends and pre-made groups

having a tank helps a lot

[edgy oasis]

this resi key we all thought we wanted has diminished tanks...

[worn rain]

or there are some discord servers that are used to find group at diff levels

but I never tried those

but yeah

lfg is pain

always has been

[loud sky]

Hey guys, why are you sticking with Fury? Aside from it being fun, is the damage gap between Fury and Arms really that big in +15s and higher?

[thorny basin]

I just dont know how to play arms and I feel like id just int trying to figure out on the fly

[real wedge]

I like fury more but I don't like it enough to do 20K+ less in keys

[rare forum]

Zugzug fun. Mainly playing fury in raid but Arms in keys, coz its strong.

[loud sky]

Yeah, I’m down to learn Arms, but with the time I have, I don’t really know how to manage gear since they use different stats. Any tips on gearing for both Arms and Fury?

[real wedge]

Isn't it weird we have choice between Improved WW / 10% DR / and Frenzied Regen?
Like Regen is dogo popoo def and we cant even use it having only Spell Reflect and Def Stance

[real wedge]

Arms is not that picky on stats u want crit haste so just learn it and change gear over time you will still blast

[slim coral]

not that massive no

[rare forum]

Just need to build up two sets with time. Best to start with rings/neck to crit/haste for arms, can still rock some mastery from fury gear, isnt thaaat big of a deal.

Kinda annoying with crafted items tho...

[unreal onyx]

Loot gear and get 2 sets, trinkets are the same for both mostly

If you have crests spare you can craft something like a neck or similar

Rings are sonewhat easy to come by atp

I will potentially re-craft my embell weap on cloak next reset to be able to use max ilvl weapons as fury and arms

Tomorrow is my last myth vault until alleria is dead

At least I get 3 slots, surely I will get the vorasius trinket

[native wadi]

You just need two rings and a neck

[weak condor]

Is it possible to get the same weapon twice with bonus roll for fury?

[rare forum]

If you bonus rolled it once already, no.

[weak condor]

Aight

[vague stump]

does puzzle box sim better for alot of you guys over gaze/hunger?

[weak condor]

Not for me

[native wadi]

Nope

[vague stump]

I wonder if its because I dont have alot of mastery hmm sims 1.7% better than hero gaze/myth hunger and 2.5% in 8t 1.30 sim

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pGXPMjA3xbuM7jfgRDoZRN

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/drcqveNHF43aSZB1QBHn5R

[native wadi]

Sim 6m

With 3m sounds like bl+box very high value

While raze goes down

[vague stump]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9vmJWLzRkZUcFqPE2MTfd5
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vk72M4NAgVDKvSZh3wh9xN

no bl only BS still better

pls bliz dont make me play that awful trinket but its quite alot of diff

[tiny seal]

the value of an on use trinket with eg 2 min cd goes up the shorter fights are

for example if you just sim it for 1 quick pump it is likely to sim higher because its a big stat increase for short bursts

[bitter palm]

its also just

[tiny seal]

instead the other trinkets are more consistent

[bitter palm]

overstat as fuck

[vague stump]

I mean makes sense but makes me think for M+ maybe puzzle is just better

I really dont want to play it but like 2% is quite alot of diff

[native wadi]

Thats another 3m sim

Why u simming 3'

Hahaha

Ofc puzzly is so much better

[vague stump]

I mean generally bosses in my keys are like 3-4 min fights

[tough basin]

use trinket (standing still for 2 seconds) Kill me

[vague stump]

guess I could sim 4 min

[red berry]

of course its going to sim really well, its frontloaded

[native wadi]

For m+ is better and you are simming before pull

So its going to get more value

[tiny seal]

It is a very good trinket if youre pulling big for example and you know you get box up for those pulls

[vague stump]

tbh making me want to play it abit more I do generally play it in seat and nexus because of extra dmg amp burst phase

but I feel like I have to hold cds for like 10 seconds or whatever to lign up puzzle w cds so idk I guess we cant sim for that but simming like 2% more in packs is kinda big deal and makes me think I should run it more

[tiny seal]

theres always couple of seconds in m+ where you move from a to b and can plan accordingly for those cds

just try it out on similiar pulls etc if you dont trust sims

or dummy it with the same buffs

[chilly rover]

Is DPS warrior buff copium?

[heavy ether]

Rejoice, fellas! I'm going to give in and use my bonus rolls for Arms gear. Fury buffs are guaranteed.

[terse ether]

is there a place with aoe dummies that dont die fast?

[rare forum]

same >D

[spare steppe]

I don’t even know what dungeon you can reliably roll for fury whereas everything in pit screams arms

[tiny seal]

you can reliably play fury on every dungeon except maybe mc, pit and mostly spire

[tight roost]

I take it playing arms with fury is still not great?

[past hazel]

are Voidclaw Gauntlets still being used heavily? or could I replace heroic Voiclaws with Myth tier gloves

[snow radish]

Ilvl > proc

[vague stump]

puzzle fucking cranking on 1st pull AA was from 19 attempt but haven't seen dps like that in 1st pull

[rare forum]

gotta go arms

[vague stump]

yeah nty

[coarse nest]

Unironically arms kind of suffers on first AA pull depending on tank movement anyway

[trim moon]

Advice on fury channel. "Go arms" Advice on Arms channel. "Go Fury"

Pick something and have fun lol. Thane shits for me in keys and the ST isn't horrible. People will just complain about anything if they aren't a broken meta.

[languid willow]

I think on that AA pull I’m usually peaking like 500-550k dps but I’m using gaze and heart

[dry fable]

Why does the Wowhead guide say that Slayer is best for ST Raid and Multi target Raid when no one in the top 10 on all bosses in Mythic plays Slayer?

[languid willow]

I play thane exclusively for pad and parsing, but if I’m doing boss prog I go slayer for my raid so I have more ST dmg

[heavy ether]

This is a Pad tier. Thane is better for padding

[undone flower]

If tank moves opposite side on that puddle drop oh oh tank might die bc he killed my dps

[languid willow]

But just do what you’re more comfortable with

On crown tho, outside of the first 2.5 min, that last phase you’ll do fuck all dmg if you’re thane imo

[dry fable]

Last time I simmed ST as thane vs slayer the damage difference is extremely small

I think its straight up wrong to suggest slayer in raid, at the very least for multi target

[vague stump]

yeah thane and slayer single target is like 1k diff

and massively better in aoe

its legit nothing with the reap nerfs slayer single is basically thane

[dry fable]

yeah

[vague stump]

I peaked over like 700k or something this pull was crazy I would normally avg out around 375-380 ish at the end but to see over 400 is mad

puzzle seems to get omega value in large pulls over everything else especially w lust but it just doesn't lign up great w pulls and cds sometimes

[fading sky]

Keep in mind gap is 3% at best

So any time theres 2 targets or more thane does more st

As clap isnt as waste a gcd as ww

• if avatar // reck aligns easily, thane's easier 2 play

[vague stump]

slayer single is reliant on SD procs if you get unlucky your basically gigga fucked

where as thane is just more consistant dmg even if you get unlucky w BB resets during rek window

[undone flower]

I think fury slayer after .5 is pure int in prog

Before, I can see the vibe

[vague stump]

100% I just don't see the beneifit of slayer 1 bit tbh I even think playing thane in anything past paladins is inting aswell either ride the bench or play slarms

[frozen scarab]

😭

[tepid beacon]

what combat pots are you guys using, I know light's potential is most recommended, any of you use recklessness pot?

[fickle vector]

I agree whit this. I’m just sending full thane for raid until there is some tuning change to slayer ST that pushes me otherwise.

I went slayer in vorasius last night in raid and felt like I should have just went thane lol I just don’t like slayer either tho

[oak coral]

To quickly check which flask and pot combination is best for your current character and gear:
• open up the advanced tab on Raidbots https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/advanced,

• go ingame and type /simc (you need the latest Simulationcraft addon for this), then copy and paste this simc output into the advanced tab,

• add the following below your simc output, and then run the sim:

potion=disabled
flask=disabled

# Mainstat Potion + Flask
copy="LightsPotential + MasteryFlask"
potion=lights_potential_2
flask=flask_of_the_magisters_2
copy="LightsPotential + VersatilityFlask"
flask=flask_of_thalassian_resistance_2
copy="LightsPotential + CritFlask"
flask=flask_of_the_shattered_sun_2
copy="LightsPotential + HasteFlask"
flask=flask_of_the_blood_knights_2

# Secondary Potion + Flask
copy="Recklessness + MasteryFlask"
potion=potion_of_recklessness_2
flask=flask_of_the_magisters_2
copy="Recklessness + VersatilityFlask"
flask=flask_of_thalassian_resistance_2
copy="Recklessness + CritFlask"
flask=flask_of_the_shattered_sun_2
copy="Recklessness + HasteFlask"
flask=flask_of_the_blood_knights_2```

MasteryFlask = Flask of the Magisters
VersFlask = Flask of Thalassian Resistance
CritFlask = Flask of the Shattered Sun
HasteFlask = Flask of the Blood Knights

[dense elbow]

So what you guys are saying is that Slayer should get TWWs3 tier (2) as a passive instead of the haste buff?

[uneven path]

Hell yeh, would be banger

Would bring so much more aoe and singel, but that won't happened due to how executioner works now

[rare forum]

Just do a top gear sim on Raidbots and select all flasks/pots etc. on the bottom! No need for advanced sim.
I use recklessness as arms and lights as fury.

[hollow owl]

how are y’all pull this much dps on this pull. I think i’ve peaked at like 270k with all cds going and thunderblast/clap on cd

[uneven path]

@dense elbow I think for p2 TWW s3 to come back they have to move BS to AM and remake the CDR part of slayer

[frank dawn]

Sold. Do it

[oak coral]

Oh, cool. I don’t recall seeing that before - has it always been there?

[undone flower]

midnight thing

same time as simc input becoming a code box

[uneven path]

Sec just gotta get job at blizzard as warrior dev

[rare forum]

that position prolly doesnt even exist

just some intern throwing in random changes once in a blue moon

[uneven path]

Copilot is our developer now

[rare forum]

would actually really like a deep drive from blizz on who and how class design is being done

for the different classes/specs

[uneven path]

I know some of the riot balance guys do this for league

[frank dawn]

Blizzard hates communicating to begin with. The absolute last thing they want to talk about is how class decisions are made.

[strange drift]

Esta real?

I don't feel like a bottom of the barrel spec

[rare forum]

Yea, becoz it would prolly be bad pr, judging by the frequency of changes to certain classes

[frank dawn]

Yes our damage to bosses is the worst in the entire game, but overall damage isn’t much better lol

Fury is good guys

[tardy lark]

🙂

[strange drift]

Oh it's to bosses

Shit

Makes sense ig

[rare forum]

zero burst, zero sustain, great kekw

[strange drift]

Who needs burst when u don't deal enough damage to begin with

😭🙏💔

[frank dawn]

because if everyone is bursty...no one is

[uneven path]

yeh we are not getting buffed

[abstract tulip]

how is sv so high, Ive never seen one

[hushed ocean]

if they don't buff us, please nerf a lil bit others

[dense elbow]

We are mid, mid is fine

[tardy lark]

very small very dedicated playerbase

often means people are pretty good at the spec (its 3 buttons)

[uneven path]

Surv hunter ?

[tardy lark]

slightly more complicated than ddh

[rare forum]

barely mid, and that with super heavy pad involved. such a bad profile

[dense elbow]

mid is mid

[stiff barn]

Makes you miss S1 tww

Good profile

[uneven path]

It pretty much feels like blizz usually looks at overall picture and balances around it

[tardy lark]

MM was at least allowed to have that profile for more than a week

but we didnt get a rework while they did

[abstract tulip]

how? by buffing devourer??

[uneven path]

So if spec has like two fights where it excels they wont get anything

[uneven path]

New spec, they got quota to hit

[hushed ocean]

u're wrong. They get a nerf. remember Ansurek an rashanan

[uneven path]

We don't talk about TWW s1

[tepid beacon]

ah fair will do ty

[hushed ocean]

=> "remember"

[uneven path]

I only recall Blizz removing fury from game for S1

[twilit crag]

Because Claude AI think it s more fun to up s tier class it s easy to reroll for this xpac. Then next plan is to delete old class war/rogue to add new class more fun to play

[uneven path]

Most unrealistic thing about this is them using Claude

And not being forced into Cockpilot or ChatGPT

[twilit crag]

Haha 😂

[abstract tulip]

next expansion will allow characters to multiclass 🙂

[vague stump]

alot depends on the tank is they insta kite you cant get any cleve dmg onto mobs alot of it down to the tank tbh

[tired bane]

Multiclass warr arm + warr fury ?

Still low tier dps

[frozen scarab]

hope the next class they release is released with 2 tank specs

[stoic loom]

Cope

[twilit crag]

Multiclass DH and War fury

[candid sorrel]

Honestly fury havoc would be fun af

[edgy oasis]

Is there an addon for folliwing the double proc BB/BT ?

[sullen tendon]

Poor paladins dhs and dks have to suffer while fury warriors get all these changes. How greedy can warriors be…?

[night dune]

Goddammit we're back on the micromanagement life

Hate this thing

[formal hedge]

Hellow fellow warriors, i wanted to ask with thane build do we need to use WW or just TC?

[night dune]

Just TC/TB

WW is only ever going to see use if you genuinely have nothing else to press for a GCD

[formal hedge]

Thanks for the info

[sullen dove]

it feels so weird to not automatically take myth items on alts cuz u could just get a coin and coin the exact same item

[night dune]

Wait we actually got changes? Where

[sullen dove]

see one of the 2 nexus rings on my evoker and im like "oh shit sick" then like "waaaait..."

[night dune]

All I saw was warlock hunter and a couple other WHO classes

[thorny arch]

TC/TB take WW off your bars as MT

[formal hedge]

Thanks

[hybrid cargo]

i got a myth weapon on the wrong character ;-;

why has god forsaken me

[abstract tulip]

your sign to reroll

[hollow owl]

fair, i’ve had the tank pull in the opposite direction of where i’m headed for the ground shit

[marble apex]

when we got some buff? 😄

[fallen ginkgo]

doing mythic chim is funny when you have same dmg as other warrior but he is padding the fck outta the fight lol

[hybrid cargo]

i mean that sign was our ornage parse being most other classes 75

[wicked eagle]

Have a 50% chance to be free from this satans box piece of shit this week

[wise wren]

I have hero track puzzlebox and champion track gaze for my trinkets right now. I have a myth track puzzlebox and hero track heart of ancient hungerer in my vault. Which one would you guys take? I do have enough re rolls this week to roll on either the gaze twice or the eye of midnight twice or both once this week

Sims replace the hero puzzlebox with the hero heart and keep the champion gaze lol

[abstract tulip]

question answered

[hybrid cargo]

premium raidbots is nowhere near enough iterations XD

[ember apex]

is it true that if ur first attack on rampage misses the rest do?

[hybrid cargo]

why in gods name would you ever miss? this isnt classic

[ember apex]

cant you miss when not enraged

[hardy cargo]

yes, but I dont think it can "miss" it has to be parried

[shy knot]

Got it on my monk

Too good on my monk

[hardy cargo]

autos only, dual wield classes have a miss chance on their autos which for fury is negated by a talent

[ember apex]

ok b/c the simc engine for warr has an exception for this in the rampage dmg calcs so i was wondering

[hybrid cargo]

casting rampage enrages you lol

[ember apex]

what if first hit misses tho

[hybrid cargo]

before the strikes go out

[ember apex]

the buff affects autos like the guy said

bad crop but u get the idea

[hybrid cargo]

idk i dont think i have ever misswhen not under the affects of an ability that makes you miss more, if those even exist anymore

[ember apex]

i had a sim yesterday that churned oiut w/ my first rampage doing 0 damage and i thought it was a simc glitch but its intentionally programmed as a possibility

i just never heard about it before

[sullen dove]

yea i mean its prolly just parry

psure misses are like a complete impossibility now

[ember apex]

ok

[sullen dove]

unless you somehow like move out of melee range like at some perfect insane time of when you hit the button then leave

[ember apex]

maybe miss in this context just means an attack not landed

via any method

[sullen dove]

prolly

[ember apex]

ok sry for the derail

ty for info

[sullen dove]

we def not farming hit rating anymore B)

[ember apex]

fr fr

[bitter palm]

if it gets parried u get nothing from rampage

like old RA

u just didnt get ra if ur first hit got parried

[smoky vale]

arms rework

[bitter palm]

more like bozopack now

armsrework is done...

[smoky vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288285056795803680/1498708392309428434/image.png?ex=69f22475&is=69f0d2f5&hm=e4183edaeab0c39147d530d4dce099fe0b01e08d58d168822b7219abd49a2ea5&

[bitter palm]

HOOOOOOOLY

hoooooooooooooooly

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY

[smoky vale]

armsrework died for this

[bitter palm]

VESSEL OF TORTURED SOULS

[smoky vale]

bis trinket

[bitter palm]

for parsing 0s

type shi

[smoky vale]

i aint ever played a good comp

shut up

nevr have balanced damage

never funnel

[coarse nest]

League main wcyd

[ember apex]

league of legends? the free game?

[bitter palm]

giofiveseven

obtained powerful trinket

man theyshould make

raid gear max ilvl in vault

6/6

[ember apex]

100%

[bitter palm]

if they want to keep this cringe cap

on crests

[ember apex]

punish those mythic plussers

[coarse nest]

Just imagine the crying

[bitter palm]

me when i actively choose not to participate in end game content

then complain about being lower character power than people who do

[olive wraith]

I mean it’s not always a choice though

[coarse nest]

😂 real

That’s exactly what they do too

[ember apex]

what's harder? mythic raid boss or a +69 Xalatath Jacuzzi M+ dungeon

[bitter palm]

i mean

i dont raid cause i cba with the schedule

but im not complaining

i just wish we had good trinkets in m+

but bis trinkets being from early bosses is good too

[ember apex]

the fact that all dps specs are chasing the same 4 trinkets is super bad game design

[coarse nest]

That’s the saving grace this tier

Just kill vorasius and chim to be set

And aver ofc for arms chads

[ember apex]

i had new arms right now

hate*

rend is the worst button in the history of warrior

[olive wraith]

I can’t raid cause I can’t be online at a reasonable time

Some people can’t log on for 2-3 consecutive hours sometimes

[ember apex]

u can raid with the euros like i did when i was in college and my day was done at like 10AM

[olive wraith]

I think it’s good m+ gives end game gear in vaukt

[bitter palm]

i mean i could raid

[olive wraith]

I can’t

[bitter palm]

i just dont want to

[olive wraith]

I’d probably have better luck with Oceania

[ember apex]

wtf is that like hawaii?

[bitter palm]

australia

new zealand

[ember apex]

oh

[bitter palm]

and fuckass islands around them

[ember apex]

like easter islands with those stone heads

[jagged silo]

type shit

[ember apex]

might be fun to raid w/ those guys

"so i hear u guys are really big on banana leaves"

[olive wraith]

I’m in Hawaii, we are NA

[ember apex]

hawaii is kinda poggers

[olive wraith]

Not for wow lma

Time zone is ass

[ember apex]

move to socal, it's the same thing

[jagged silo]

hawaii still like an hour behind cali i think

[ember apex]

3 hours but yeah

[jagged silo]

i did not know it was that far

[ember apex]

its a 6hr flight from orange county

[jagged silo]

thought u meant orange county florida for a sec

and questioned ur numbers

forgot there are multiple

[ember apex]

blizz hq in irvine in oc

[undone flower]

[olive wraith]

It’s really not but ok

[frozen scarab]

is there a site to check the most played specs currently

[ember apex]

for raid its warcraft logs

[stoic rampart]

Raider.io has a class/spec distribution graph for keys too iirc

[ember apex]

yeah but its % based not raw #s

[stoic rampart]

That’s what I thought

[ember apex]

nvm im cap

it skirts it by saying samples

which is fair

[frozen scarab]

i expected way more ddh's wtf

[stoic rampart]

Id always seen it presented in weekly articles in percent of keys at whatever level and didn’t really look much further, I just knew they had the numbahs in some form

what’s the ddh purrsent

[fluid cedar]

are a 10 and 12 on different "loot tables" for bonus rolls - for example i use a bonus roll in a 10 pit of saron and get the barbed ymirheim choker - could i use a bonus roll in a 12 pit of saron and still get the choker?

[hollow elk]

what is the crafted cloak we go for? arcanoweave?

[frozen scarab]

simmed my entire vault and the best item from it gives me -1331

who did i upset at blizzard

looking like tokens 2 weeks in a row

[astral path]

if we get double myth wep does that mean we craft a new armor piece?

[winter shoal]

yes

[winter shoal]

Crafted weapon in offhand still probably better, but you can sim it

[twilit harbor]

depending on your gear set double Arcanoweave lining (cloak+wrists) with 2x 289 2Hs can be marginally better, especially with good itemized 2Hs.

But tbh your crests are better spend upgrading myth track pieces, you should have no shortage of them now that the bonus roll tokens are available.

also remains to be seen what the 298 weapons scale like, i think ilvls are still speculated

[frozen scarab]

tokens can be exhanged for bonus rolls right?

[spare flame]

do we know if we'll be able to upgrade both weapons and both trinkets to 298 ilv or do we have to pick one?

[undone flower]

When you sim the difference between the two you need to count the fact you gain ilvl on the item you craft, so you need to do offhand crafted +1 craft non-embellished vs 2 myth weapon + additional lining

[olive wraith]

I thought they typically removed crest cap with the .5 patch

But this .5 seems pretty early comparatively

[merry zinc]

Do you guys like to sim Dungeon slice or pref patchwork adding bosses for aoe sims?

[winter shoal]

5t 5m patchwerk

[olive wraith]

Dslice isn’t that good

[merry zinc]

Okay sweet good to know, thanks!

[smoky vale]

hey bigbowwl when are you ever hitting 5t for 5m

[winter shoal]

I mean never but it's close enough

if you want to sim 1t 3m + 8t 90s (no lust) + 6t 75s (no lust) then be my guest but like

Who cares

[smoky vale]

wow thank you bigbowwl

🙂

[pulsar quest]

dont be rude

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ojmdfBQL3P7nBSiWEuRfSS 90k gang with tier gloves

[fading sky]

90k at 280

Dang warrior life rough

My dk after fixxin oversimmin is 105 at 270😅

[woven valley]

Warrior need big buffs

Fury at least

[tame gorge]

Is arms the play now in raid? I see people insisting it is but other than vanguard is there that big of a rift?

[serene socket]

overall they are right on top of each other. pretty sure fury still beats out in raw single target but its not like either spec is doing amazing. just play what youre most comfortable with that will likely get you best results

[olive wraith]

Both specs could use moderate ST buffs

[woven valley]

i mean just go look at boss damage

fury is rock bottom by a lot

[kind bison]

Is it slayer fury that’s out doing ST? I was under the impression slayer arms is our best option for ST(which doesn’t actually exist in the raid ofc)

But idk every week there’s less adds to pad on Sadge

[sullen tendon]

I am generally in the top 1-5 dps in my raid and by the end of most boss fights I’ll have the same or less boss damage than someone on the bottom of the meters or who died

[serene socket]

damage to bosses - mythic - over 1 week:

oof i did not realize just how bad it was

[sullen tendon]

I did the dinosaur boss in voidspire the other day and I was at like 22m st while everyone else was at like 25 or more

[delicate rock]

You Sound like a blizzard employe

[tame gorge]

So if we dont pad on adds it’s a gray parse

[olive wraith]

Yes

[thorn hearth]

They do not check it

[delicate rock]

Seems like it

[spare flame]

yep our ST is ass

[serene socket]

yeah my b I hadnt realized how large of a shift the 12.0.5 changes made. I see a lot more arms now in the top parses (although i still think this raid tier parses are all over the place I dont entirely trust them for average recommendations)

[static shuttle]

we have ST dmg?

[fickle vector]

Are tier gloves bis over voidclaw from seat?

[fading sky]

This metric is horrid

And skewed arms has equally bsd st

Carried by 2t bosses

[woven valley]

i mean the meters in raid show it too

fury not good

[fading sky]

I feel like thane was good early in hc🤣, then ppl got 4p and learned fights

And ddh steals a lot of furys overall dmg

Id like 2 c a statistic for last 3 bosses combined

[carmine crescent]

[woven valley]

we just arent designed well for how fights are made in raid. there are no 5 target sustained aoe fights lol

[signal falcon]

Sad part is, even if there was a fight like that idk if Fury would be on top lol

[lean heart]

remember when we dominated nerubar heroic week

then caught 7 nerfs in a row

[fading sky]

.8 dev

Every range

[signal falcon]

Like meat cleaver may be capped at 5 but idk if we’re actually that exceptional on 5

[fading sky]

Aug

We are not

Coz its based on our st

Like s3 we were strong

[lean heart]

if theres 5 targets up constantly lowk you just play colossus arms

[fading sky]

Coz we were top in actual st!

Just burst was more important

[modest condor]

s3 we were strong because reap the storm did giga damage

[fading sky]

Our st was also top 3

[lean heart]

god that was nice wasnt it

the constant SD procs as well

[fading sky]

If we did 15-20k more st

Our 5 t cleave would fuxk

[dense elbow]

Just have better RNG, then you get that diff

[frank dawn]

I mean would it tho really

plenty of classes beating us in boss damage and aoe in M+ atm

[chilly fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413197405561819256/reaptech.gif

Never forget

[dense elbow]

never bring back, too

[iron portal]

Lizard

Lizard

Lizard

[dry hawk]

Idk I took gloves. Didn't know seat might have better

[past pivot]

Can you catalyst Seat gloves and keep the effect?

[twilit harbor]

no

[weary mango]

I remember sadly it’ll only exist in our memories

[ornate gust]

it is always like this.. we are bottom in single target

[fading sky]

Fr if we could just get the amouny of sd procs we had

Id be so happy

[dense elbow]

[fading sky]

Sd procs now are even more fun as its main reap

So let us have loads of em?

[dense elbow]

Could even balance the increase of SD reaps, by removing Ramp reaps

maybe buff each individual reap a bit

[fading sky]

I mean hear me out

Our st suck

Our aoe suck

We can afford the buff?🤣

Without a nerf on the dide

[dense elbow]

Problem is, if we perform above mid

[fading sky]

Nerf time

[dense elbow]

Yep

[fading sky]

I mean luckily

Ddh

Will kill our pad

So never fear

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/oink-piggy-gif-11331137068844485809

@sullen dove

[frank dawn]

huge

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-sucking-melon-kirby-sucks-a-melon-kirby-is-sucking-a-melon-kirby-suck-melon-kirby-sucks-gif-3725262895535054211

[sullen dove]

what is he doing to that watermelon

[dry hawk]

I'd get hero if I looted a neck

[civic osprey]

Any tips for simming Fury for M+? Wondering if there are specific Raidbots settings I need to toggle or if the default is fine.

[dry hawk]

But gratz on all myth pieces

[spare steppe]

5T 5M 1T 5M and 8T 2M is what I like to do

[past pivot]

You can usually get away with the default sim and swap out trinkets for burst. Many others do 5t/5min. Read above. Bigbbowll commented on it an hour or 2 ago

[ruby scaffold]

Does anyone know if the bonus roll BLP works for items you already have in your bags? Like if I have a mythic ring from a dungeon that I looted from vault, and bonus roll, can I get that ring from a bonus roll still or is that eliminated from the loot pool?

[modest condor]

no afaik it's only against items from bonus rolls

[hollow owl]

do y'all think it's worth crafting the 285 cloak for a 250 dps increase? I already have the weapon and bracers crafted

[undone flower]

it works only for bonus rolls items

[ruby scaffold]

Alright, RIP lol

Just trying to decide what I want to grab from vault

[hollow owl]

also wait, can you dual wield the 285 crafted weapons?

[celest halo]

Yes

[celest halo]

This depends on what the rest of your gear looks like honestly. Everything is relative. “Is it worth it” doesn’t make sense unless you/we/the sims know what your other options are that you’re choosing that over

[olive wraith]

I would suggest not crafting a second wep

That’s a lot of wasted crests

[hollow owl]

I was looking at Archon builds and it's showing that the majority of Fury Warriors are using the crafted in both MH and OH. But since it's a data aggregation tool, I can't tell if it's because there's an even split of folks using it in the MH/OH but not both, or because folks are using it in both

[past pivot]

If you can do a +10, you should have a chance at a myth track weapon, Especially with bonus rolls

[hollow owl]

I'm basically sitting on 80 Myth crests atm and trying to spend them wisely. I don't have any Myth track gear I can spend them on right now so was looking at the crafted cape

I need hero crests but I haven't hit Myth crest cap yet so none of the keys I'm running are giving Hero crests

[olive wraith]

It’s a split between people using it in either slot, not because they have 2 equipped

[hollow owl]

That's what I did last week in MT and I got the belt and the ring. Belt was a nice upgrade, but the ring isn't worth it for me since I'm using the cantrip ones from Xenas

[hollow owl]

makes sense, thank you!

[olive wraith]

No worries

[hollow owl]

this might be a silly question; the sims are suggesting differnt enchants for weapons/rings than what the BiS lists have. Which should I take as the source of truth? Does it matter?

My current thinking is that I'm no where near Mastery/Haste Stat DR so I should just prio haste/mastery enchants until I get there. Is that the right way to think about it?

[hasty root]

if i don't pick my vault for this week, im not home yet, haven't gotten to it this week, will i lose the loot from this week or will i open 2 vaults tomorrow?

[celest halo]

You have bonus rolls though right? Use them to get some myth pieces

Spending the 80 crests asap is less of an issue, even though you haven’t capped, the cap is still a thing. So unless that cloak craft will help you with your content goals right now, you’d be better suited using some bonus rolls and getting some myth gear that you can put them into

[thorny zenith]

how much am I trolling if I use the draught of rampant abandon pot that leaves puddles for a 0.4% gain compared to LP

[hollow owl]

I have 2 for this week yeah, but won't be able to use them before raid. There's a very slim chance I'll be able to run MT

[past pivot]

Depending on what vault offers, you can also take 6 tokens from it and buy a 3rd bonus roll

[hollow owl]

I got Myth track Heart of Ancient Hunger 🙏

[celest halo]

oh shit! big!

[keen kindle]

Ja

Clappin

[hollow owl]

yeee I am v excited. Got to upgrade from its Champion track version

[void yoke]

I thought we pulled a ret pally move for a minute there. Discord just disappeared.

[sullen dove]

yea still kinda buggin out it seems lol

[sterile hearth]

No revolution. Today.

[spark coral]

should i take the belt if i already have a myth belt with the wrong stats? or go for the reroll token

[void yoke]

We cata belt anyways, no?

[spark coral]

wellll. what about MORE mastery

simming right now

[limpid tide]

for the long game u probs cata ur belt and take socket

[dim spindle]

Probably reroll or socket depending on how many myth pieces you already have

[dim spindle]

Skyreach wasn't available on my 'cord until like 5-10 minutes ago

And it took forever to load

[olive wraith]

Sims>bis list

Bis is only the best if you have literally every piece at max ilvl

[spark coral]

7 atm, not enough crests to level em all up atm

and 2 crafted 285s

[honest tundra]

thats kinda slightly scary, you could be stuck at a local minimum if you know whaat i mean

like theres no incremental selection that gets you to bis

[olive wraith]

I don’t know what you mean

[honest tundra]

gg

[olive wraith]

That’s what simming does.

[honest tundra]

thats not my point but wtv

[vague stump]

I thought we finally shut down the discord for some buffs was sad to see that was not the case

[wispy thistle]

if only we were that lucky

[sly merlin]

got my last piece of myth tier in vault

[olive wraith]

Elaborate?

[quiet geyser]

I legit wonder how many warriors actually thought this lmao

[safe carbon]

is reap the storm bugged on slayer? it is not proccing at all from rampage

[smoky vale]

its only in aoe if that makes a difference for how you were expecting it to proc

[quiet geyser]

Are you hitting 3+ targets?

[olive wraith]

Log it the report back

[keen kindle]

tbh all the class discords I'm in went out lol

It was kinda funny

[olive wraith]

Blizzards bugs infected wow class discords

[safe carbon]

yep

even went to the dummies and it is still not proccing

ran a +10 to check, no procs again

[olive wraith]

Log it

And drop the log

Don’t press sd on dummies

[safe carbon]

relogging fixed it for some reason, I relogged for an addon

but without pressing SD the proc rate is really sad, just realised

[wispy thistle]

^^ its defo the proc rate

[olive wraith]

20% isn’t a lot

[safe carbon]

i really hoped it would be 20% per target

should be

xd

doing 1 min on the dummies and reaps only from rampages sit below auto attacks in the meter

[queen sorrel]

chat I need your guys' opinion

[wispy thistle]

rend does more as well

[queen sorrel]

my vault has myth boots, Vers Mastery. My current boots are hero with Haste Mastery. Is it more worth while to just take the myth boots or do I instead exchange for the extra void core

[olive wraith]

Rend gets boosted by bt tbf

[olive wraith]

Can sim it. Haste mastery isn’t best in all scenarios

[wispy thistle]

you really gotta sim it tbh, but if its not that much of an upgrade you could voidcore if you are targeting pieces

[olive wraith]

Higher ilvl is probably generally better

[olive wraith]

^

[astral moss]

I believe catalyst boots are bis anyway, but simming is the only way to know

[olive wraith]

Sim catalyst boots and regular boots

[queen sorrel]

also now I am slightly annoyed, the boots in my vault are from Seat. Could've given me the voidclaw gauntlets instead :(

[wispy thistle]

gauntlets could be so good but they really arent that great

.3% of damage

[olive wraith]

It’s still “free” damage

[lavish sierra]

I have the option to grab a mythic 2h from vault. But do we play fury in raid still

[sly eagle]

i think the vast majority of fury players are playing fury

[compact knot]

you can play either but arms is probably just better

on like every boss except nexus king and chim

which are fake bosses

[supple glen]

no i am living fury

[olive wraith]

Arms isn’t far enough ahead for me to play it

[lavish sierra]

So would I use the crafted 285 or use my fully upgraded new weapon

[compact knot]

when you spec into st and just ignore adds as arms to shit on bosses

if you do that as fury you dont really get close to arms st

[lavish sierra]

Hm

[olive wraith]

For arms?

Honestly no clue if emb is better than higher ilvl

[terse ether]

We getting wep upgrade this week?

[craggy river]

2 more weeks

it's a 4 week questline

[rare forum]

What is the quest even? I didnt do anything the first week lol. He just gave me bonus rolls and didnt want anything done for the weapon quest.

[terse ether]

it was to do the roll i think

[hybrid cargo]

Help

XD

[scarlet swift]

Thank god i rerolled Hunter

[compact knot]

looks solid

below arcane

LMFAO

[lavish sierra]

Sims depressingly lower. Do we get bonus rolls this week? Or no

[hybrid cargo]

Dear lord idk if I've ever played when fury was this fucking bad lol

[olive wraith]

For raid?

[hybrid cargo]

Yes

This is damage to bosses so thats something to consider but still

[olive wraith]

Totally means fury gets buffs this week

[hybrid cargo]

3% aura never hit so good

[olive wraith]

Honestly still surprised they didn’t buff rb after the hack n slash change

[hybrid cargo]

What if.... we just buffed bloodthirst by like 200%XD and play melee frost mage

[olive wraith]

Thane would be gigantic

[hybrid cargo]

Wide

[dim spindle]

We dooming?

[dim spindle]

We dooming.

[hybrid cargo]

Its called a cry for help

[dim spindle]

plz help. somebody. anybody. :(((

Alexa play Hurt by Johnny Cash

[hybrid cargo]

Maybe 298 weapons will help? cope cope cope

[dim spindle]

Surely!

That has to be it. Blizzard knows we'll back in brown town as soon as the +ilvl boosts hit

[hybrid cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/josie-josie-martinez-jo-martin-sheep-sheep-xing-gif-9793182163226288557

[sly merlin]

cope cope sahur

[dim spindle]

If they buffed us now we'd be too strong after the boost. Kilidk, I think you solved the puzzle

Blizzard isn't neglecting us after all, they're simply making sure the game stays healthy. yeah... yeah!

This is some primo copium, damn

[past pivot]

If half the browns crying doomed re-rolled, we'd be buffed crazy good to make us an entcing spec to play. Maybe roll lock to nerf them on way back up

[stoic loom]

wheres that guy that said fury is fine?

[spark coral]

i knew i could trust blizzard, i just knew it!

[stoic loom]

this just happened in my mythic raid

[dim spindle]

We'd rather you didn't play Fury - Ion, definitely

[olive wraith]

Is anyone saying fury is fine in raid?

[stoic loom]

funkykitty was here saying fury is middle of the pack and that's good enough

[dim spindle]

I think they meant it as in "damn, u fine"

Because we are the sexiest class by far. No debate

[olive wraith]

Wasn’t he referring to keys

He doesn’t raid afaik

[dim spindle]

Funkykitty is my spirit animal

I would agree, though... we are (borderline) "fine" for keys. With the exception of the very peak of the key meta/level and stuff like the first pull in AA which is just depressing

Weekly keys more than fine assuming you smash buttons good

[olive wraith]

Don’t we even out somewhat as the key progresses

Being flat and all

[dim spindle]

Yeah but it's still very epeen shrinking until you slowly catch up

[olive wraith]

If class balance was determined in opening pulls the game would be very poorly balanced

[dim spindle]

The main issue is it's very much a net negative when you get to a certain level, but that would be part of the "exception"

[olive wraith]

Wdym

[dim spindle]

Those flowers need to die asap

[olive wraith]

What’s a net negative I mean

[dim spindle]

As in it's damaging to the success of the group to invite us over any other class/spec that can burst those damn flowers down quick

But before that level I really don't think it matters. But... meta > fun I guess

tbh I'm just huffing that copium atm. we're FINE

Ok time to go open my vault so hopefully I get a nice upgrade so I can be even more "fine"

Thoughts and prayers, brothers in fury

[quasi fractal]

me when my new bis item from vault makes me do 17 more dps

[olive wraith]

These are the big flowers right

[hybrid cargo]

Si

The bleedy bois

[unkempt oasis]

Look at Mr. big dps over here

[olive wraith]

The lashers don’t bleed?

[hybrid cargo]

Im going for 3400 and then gonna chill till they buff us tbh. I got a geared uhdk for keys

[unkempt oasis]

Plants don't have blood

[olive wraith]

What is sap if not plant blood

Checkmate atheist

[undone flower]

Heartless plants

[unkempt oasis]

Damn... gotten..

[stoic loom]

i do keys with a brew homie

and bro is legit dodging AA cos he knows that first pull is gonna be ass with a fury warrior

[gentle badge]

that 2h weapon from march is pretty insane in aoe for my sims lol it beats out 2 289 myth weapons in aoe by 5k lol but wins in ST by ~900 dps

[stoic loom]

we did it on 18 and now hes legit refusing to do 19 xd

[undone flower]

March wep is a dps loss for my current char

[pliant jackal]

feelsbadman when your alt does more dps than your warrior

can you even call it an alt now

when its 5 ilvl lower

[compact knot]

all 3 of my characters will like be higher ilvl then my warrior when i get the crest reduction

interesting mechanic

[gentle badge]

what stats are your weaps? mine are vers/mast and crit/haste

[undone flower]

You would need my full gear to have the picture

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8vNf7dyBxP73rEdzZWZiCr

[hybrid cargo]

Like my warriors gear is kinda nuts all things considered, myth gaze, myth void claw, 3/4 myth teir and myth chim boots

[undone flower]

I have masara weapon which is basically paladins weapon

[hybrid cargo]

Its just a waste to put raid items on a warrior if others need it

Thank God for bonus rolls

[gentle badge]

oh ok makes sense

crazy lol im keeping the higher ilvl weap because i simmed for 10 mobs in aoe so to me its kind of just pad at that point and id rather do better boss dam

[undone flower]

For raid I always sim 1 boss

It’s the only dmg that matters

[dim flint]

here but only in M+

[pliant jackal]

aoe sim is kind of a meme

[undone flower]

And I would just pick AoE talents/trinket if there is AoE, but still sim in st

Yes on paladins I simmed 2-3t

[undone flower]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8QC1XgGiWP3dejppdMCUKu
10t it's = my weapon

[keen kindle]

what boss

[stoic loom]

boss damage on mythic azertian

[trim moon]

It cycles between fury chat and arms chat. Fury is the emoest loudest because 2 weapons i think

[keen kindle]

Oh

Yeah gg

[stoic loom]

got plenty of those tho

got the same boss damage log as my ret homie while doing 25% less boss dps

depressing to look at

[gentle badge]

interesting

[heavy yacht]

did fury get nerfed really bad?

[rancid tendon]

are the nexus point rings simbait or am i just behind on whats BIS

[spark coral]

i have them and they avg about 1% of my dps from the proc

[woven valley]

They are good, but haste is such a big increase for us that we want that raid ring that’s pure haste

[rancid tendon]

bc im looking at my vault with platinum star band and wondering if its more worth for extra voidcore or take star band and see if i got the ring from midnight fallls

[undone flower]

they are likely the best rings if you cant kill myth lura

[woven valley]

Also what’s good for you now will be different based on what you’re wearing right now

[rancid tendon]

i mean yeah i just have myth of the omission and the bifurcation band and the other set ring and simmed which was better and it told me set was better just wondering if i was getting baited or not

[mellow smelt]

Which of the pinned guides/sites is recommended? A clear best or any to avoid?

[trim moon]

For the hard core people pissed because not meta. Yes. For the min maxers that look to raiderio for comp. Yes
For people that play with a family guild that sometimes dip into mythic raid. No we have fun.

Did decent in a 10 arak

[dim crypt]

For only as far as mythic raid as concerned is there a clear winner in dps between arms and fury warrior? been looking at warcraft logs and so far it doesn't seem worth it for me to farm entirely new gear with substats as from what i read arms wants crit and fury wants mastery

[heavy yacht]

i'm doing keys and like...i did less dps than the tank lol and i used to be top 2 ish before it's just not really fun

[dim crypt]

im geared for fury right now

[trim moon]

Thane and thunderclap brother!

[heavy yacht]

i have a thane build with thunderclap 🙁

[olive wraith]

Thane wasn’t changed at all

[heavy yacht]

skill issue i need to get good

someone told me in a key thunderblast was nerfed by 40%

[modest condor]

someone was lying to you

[heavy yacht]

[trim moon]

Brother with the way all the specs are for all classes. Warrior has to work twice as hard to get middle of the pack. There are some FREAKS on here that find a way to shine but know that they are working hard to get those numbers.

[smoky vale]

kill warrior

[heavy yacht]

i'm noticing that now that i got into a bit higher keys. i even use consumables

[wispy thistle]

always come in and read the updates channel, tells you everything you need to know

[unkempt oasis]

But then you have to read. Not very warrior like of you.

[ember otter]

Easy, press buttons faster and make number go up

[quasi fractal]

Just hit the buttons harder

Damage scales with irl rage

[worn rain]

don't hit

smash

[cinder viper]

the harder you smash ur keys the bigger ur dps is

legit

it does correlate

[quasi fractal]

Gotta get the auxiliary rampage button

[cinder viper]

where do i buy that right this second?

[coarse nest]

bro wtf!?

LOL

that is incredible

[quasi fractal]

I think the novelkeys site is the one that sells them

Not sure how much stock they keep since its a meme tho

Or how functional they are lmao

Gotta get a set of 7-8 of em and just put the pictures of all the abilities on em

[golden mural]

Just need one. Single button rotation.

[quasi fractal]

Cant afford to lose even more damage on this spec in this day and age

[keen kindle]

You cannot kill what is already dead

[undone flower]

do like snoredih, get lootfed on war so warlock main gets myth crest reduction

[sullen dove]

[warm crag]

had enough of swordish

[sullen dove]

wtf

[warm crag]

[undone flower]

tbf the joke of swordish yellow begin to be too long

[spark coral]

can you berserker rage out of the gargoyles in pit? if you've talented fearless?

[undone flower]

No it’s a root

Bladestorm works or gnome racial

[spark coral]

bah

[hot shell]

What about voidelf racial

[tepid solar]

So I have a mythic puzzle box in vault, but mythic boots - trap jammers (vers/mastery) is swimming higher. Thoughts?

I have hero trinkets, does puzzle box not always sim well?

Simmer lower than Heart of Wind trinket

[wary salmon]

Looooool. That mouse is dope btw. Ive had mine for work about 8 years now

[olive wraith]

Not the best st sim I think

[polar narwhal]

Puzzle Box is better in AoE/Cleave and only when used right.

[quasi fractal]

Ditched mine today, cast time on a warrior? Cringe.

[olive wraith]

Like bladestorm?

[polar narwhal]

More like Demolish because you can't move

[bitter palm]

nah

swordish for blue

🥄

[olive wraith]

You can leap in demolish

[bitter palm]

preach king

come eu we are 4k in a week

[smoky vale]

@bitter palm

[spark coral]

man fury is so shunned people wont even join my 15 key

[cerulean shale]

what two dungeon trinkets are best for fury in m+?

[vast gorge]

any fury warrior tips for mythic Chim and first 3 mythic bosses in VS?

[pearl sequoia]

fight for pad

[celest hearth]

5 bonus rolls in nexus evertything but the 2 rings

at least i know whjats dropping on the next 2 runs

[vast gorge]

do you guys hold cds for adds?

[worn rain]

next week ring from vault

[summer quail]

can someone ban this guy

[bitter palm]

how are you higher ilvl

im 260

lowk getting 0 drops

from m+

[surreal token]

do the world boss, u might luck out and get the crit stat stick trinket

it's fat while ur pre-bis

[smoky vale]

watchout for when i get gloves and an offhand

@bitter palm

[quasi fractal]

Crest achievements so ridiculous my mage will go from 230 to 276 in like 2 days

[bitter palm]

holy 🥄

[fast crest]

is the trick for gaze bonus rolls to do it with prot loot table?

[quasi fractal]

ye

drops off the other trinket

[brittle crow]

what group do i wanna be in on m chimmy

1st and hold or 2nd and send on pull

[warm crag]

@smoky vale

[quasi fractal]

1st gets to do a second set of ads in phase 2

assuming your group is doing the sac the tank strat

[smoky vale]

if you are in group 1 you hold

if you are in group 2 send on cd basically

[brittle crow]

but what do i WANT to be in

[smoky vale]

1

but i got rank 1 as 2

shit dies too fast anyways

just hit the things and go back

[compact knot]

1 gets to go down twice which is good for fury

[brittle crow]

1 it is

[smoky vale]

i got to hit the guys from 1 while up

as they spawned up

it was very chill

[brittle crow]

wont u explode from the opposite group

[quasi fractal]

pug groups ive been in were anal about only ranged hitting those to not dissonance

[brittle crow]

if u go to the adds while theyre up

[smoky vale]

just open your eyes

[steady oak]

what should i take from vault? fresh 260 any advice plz?

[smoky vale]

and dotn walk on people

[brittle crow]

our raiders dont have eyes

best not risk it

[quasi fractal]

i dont trust the other people not to walk onto me

[smoky vale]

you are better off taking a bonus roll and using it in +10s

i mean i did it in a pug

one person needs to have eyes

[steady oak]

thats some good comms actually wtf

ty

[smoky vale]

the big thing is not killing the people who are doing madness

not the random bozos who should be on their sides

[brittle crow]

rate the stats

[smoky vale]

worse than mine

[brittle crow]

idkkkkkkkkkkk

[quasi fractal]

the arms warrior build

[olive wraith]

3/10

[charred flint]

GOD HAS BLESSED US

BOTH BIS TRINKETS IN A WEEK

[indigo arch]

is evens or odds better for m chim?

trying to optimize this dumpster fire of a fight

[worn rain]

doen't matter that much

[indigo arch]

used to think it was odds to immediately send cds into adds, but idk anymore

[worn rain]

rdd overlords still gonna take their share of pad

[indigo arch]

but guild I am doing this with lusts off the rip so

thinking maybe evens and sending into lust

[acoustic cairn]

oops wrong chat sry

[toxic jewel]

is slayer arms doin more dam in raid over fury?

[spare steppe]

PRAISE BE

[brittle crow]

whatever man i got my myth gaze

[frozen scarab]

hero lura is the same as normal right

[charred flint]

how do i sim

where to spend rerolls

best gear?

[worn rain]

droptimizer

[west kraken]

M Chimaerus, if we are not trying to be pad whores, send cd's on pull? or wait for first phase, as thane feels like dmg is utter shit this raid

[worn rain]

if you are on top - yes

[west kraken]

first soak

[brittle crow]

our windwalker got #1 parse on myth chimaerus

[worn rain]

inside maybe you can hold for big boy but dunno about that

[brittle crow]

what the fuck!!

im having inferiority issues

[wise wren]

For M+ mountain is it pretty much Avatar + Reck, Thunder Clap (or bolt), Rampage at 100 or more rage, Thunder clap (or bolt), Bloodbath (or bloodthirst), Thunder clap etc..?

I always feel like I just end up doing rampage, clap, bloodbath, clap over and over but idk if theres something im missing

[olive wraith]

The other 6 ww haven’t raided yet

[brittle crow]

i only parsed 90 :(

[worn rain]

he's build diffirent

[brittle crow]

why is he in our guild

our 3/9m guild

[olive wraith]

For aoe?

[wise wren]

Yes

[hot shell]

Crazy how he got 15k dps more than in your dpsmeter and you got 6k less

[brittle crow]

didnt even pay attention to that lol

fucked up

im abt to just turn that shit off idk

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

me when i dont have a dps meter on

[hot shell]

At this point i have no idea what blizz Meter is actually counting

[worn rain]

because it is easier to pad with underperforming raiders

duh

[brittle crow]

fire theory actually

whats my excuse then

why cant i parse higher :(

[worn rain]

git gud

[brittle crow]

i have bis trinkets.. i pressed the right buttons..

[kindred belfry]

You're the underperforming raider mentioned

[brittle crow]

i didnt parse on adds as they came up tho

[thin scroll]

damn that ww tho

[hot shell]

Cause only elitists play warrior

[worn rain]

oof

[brittle crow]

😭

inferiority complex

im #2 dps and thats the gap i have to bridge?

im cooked

[thin scroll]

XD