fury

[real wedge]

Still super bad on overall logs

[spare steppe]

No ones disagreeing on that it isn’t doing well, just a boss thats still counted and relevant

[abstract tulip]

FINALLY

GAUNTLETS

43 runs, both rerolls, out of seat jail

[quiet geyser]

Low mid? That's a compliment tbh fury is dog shit

[strange drift]

holy fuck fury is maybe trash number wise but im not playing arms hell nah 😭🙏 ts so boring

just tried out the rotation to get a feel of it and immedietely went back to my comfort zone :3

playing trash class in this tier anyway might aswell enjoy what i like

[delicate rock]

thats the biggest problem atm.

fury is just dogshit but plays good in raid

arms is less dog but plays like giga dogshit in raid

L patch boys.

[strange drift]

hotfix with a 15% dmg buff to fury inc

[delicate rock]

[vestal root]

[delicate rock]

sadly we are not DKs that get fixed in 2 days

[quiet geyser]

A straight aura buff definitely isn't needed lol. Tc/tb, bladestorm, odyns are all fine.. its our main rotational abilities that are just dog shit

Rb/execute/bt need love

[strange drift]

joking around, but yeah i agree totally

just make slayer viable more than 1-2 fights

fuck even then i dont play slayer becouse it feels clunky to me compared to thane which is just streamlined

[abstract tulip]

the trick is to reroll

[strange drift]

delete rend

[delicate rock]

well they kinda did, you just press WW as fury

[strange drift]

there's literally no reason for this spell to exist tho

[sullen tendon]

What level keys are you guys doing

[strange drift]

other than being rotation clutter

[spark coral]

tryijng to fill my 16s

[delicate rock]

noone would miss a random dot with no interactions in our kit ye

[sullen tendon]

I would be more inclined to play arms if I didn’t have to deal with rend and slam.

Fervor of battle was the only thing making it bareable to play

[abstract tulip]

big problem is also public perception, you just dont get invited to group cause people think fury is turbo bad

[delicate rock]

worst thing is the rage, specially without a shaman in m+

[night marlin]

hotake..... delete bleeds altogether from the class and start over

[strange drift]

hard agree

[keen kindle]

Yall are so fucking overdramatic about bleeds

[delicate rock]

s2 can only get better 🙂

[strange drift]

i want to be THE execute class

[keen kindle]

You act as if rend killed your dog

[sullen tendon]

I like gushing wounds and odyns and deep wounds but I want more interactions with them

[keen kindle]

Ohb wait this is fury

Nevermind

[sullen tendon]

Rend used to be annoying but it’s fine now hat it’s passive

I’d like more interactions with bleeds that activates something like an aoe skullsplitter

[abstract tulip]

I know how to fix fury

make puzzle box instant only for warriors

[sullen tendon]

I think blizzard tries to put too much reasoning into warrior instead of just making them cool. So we end up with all of our abilities looking like glorified auto attacks

[strange drift]

never used puzzle box for more than 3 days during week 1 this season, am i missing out ?

for context

got this 1-2 week

[sullen tendon]

Just make bladestorm explode everything. Why does it do this? I don’t fucking know but it looks cool.

[olive wraith]

Well they did just add a button to fury for no reason

[strange drift]

this

[olive wraith]

Would be different if rend actually did anything with our kit

[olive wraith]

Hi king

[sullen tendon]

Puzzle box is shit and these trinkets are fine

[keen kindle]

Yeah I thought this was arms cuz I just woke up

No I agree rend on fury is an abomination

[olive wraith]

Kek

[sullen tendon]

My biggest obsessor

Trinkets like the vial from under rot are fine

Puzzle box is annoying

[olive wraith]

If rend did anything interesting people wouldn’t hate it probably

[abstract tulip]

king shit

[sullen tendon]

They need to make more trinkets like discordant chorus

That shit looked cool and activated constant

And was passive

Perfect trinket

Move away from stat shit

Stat trinkets are boring

But they always perform better than proc trinkets

[olive wraith]

Some proc trinkets are good for st

[sullen tendon]

Discordant chorus should be a glyph for arms warriors

I forgot when it was, maybe legion or bfa, but they changed trinkets so they no longer scale with stats and it kinda killed damage trinkets after that. Combined with them never making good damage trinkets anymore

Maybe it was mastery and not just stats. Because there was some antorus trinket or something that scaled with fire mage mastery or some shit

[olive wraith]

Scaling with mastery would be very unhealthy wouldn’t it?

[coarse nest]

I understand the idea behind why they made stats not effect trinkets but like it is a supporting item to your class idk id just let it be op on some specs more than others if that’s how the cards fall who cares lol

[olive wraith]

You can still stack vers I guess

[random shadow]

Rend itself is. Even on arms i dont wanna click rend man

[keen kindle]

I genuinely don't mind it on arms

[random shadow]

Bake it into cleave ez pz fix

[keen kindle]

Ew no

Press cleave in ST disgusting

[frozen nacelle]

I glad to see im not the only one who thinks arms rotation is pure dog water

[random shadow]

I mean bake it to MS

But im talking about aoe pulls in keys

[olive wraith]

Why do people want to make it passive

[sullen tendon]

The effects of this change have been felt ever since because before different specs may have a cool interaction with their master and a trinket and it would be bis for only that class or spec but now it’s just everyone wants the same exact trinkets no matter what class or spec you are. Everyone wants alnseers, everyone wants feathers

[olive wraith]

If it’s entirely passive it needs to be deleted

[keen kindle]

because people hate maintence buttons

[random shadow]

Wouldn't mind rend getting deleted

Slam should get deleted as well

[sullen tendon]

All other trinkets are useless after the first few weeks because everyone just runs the bis main stat trinket

[keen kindle]

How tf did we move to talking about arms

sigh

Yall say slam should get deleted

so you want to afk more

[coarse nest]

Yeah and this is just really bad in my opinion

[olive wraith]

I have no issues with slam tbh. It’s just another button no sweat

[sullen tendon]

No I want to not have 3 seperate buttons for aoe and 3 seperate buttons for st

[coarse nest]

It sucks when 25 dps specs want the same trinket

[sullen tendon]

This is the problem that enhancement had

[random shadow]

All roads lead to arms

[keen kindle]

That's a fucking lie though

You HAVE ONE DEDICATED AOE BUTTON

ONE

[random shadow]

But we hsve bonus rolls

[sullen tendon]

Fervor of battle solved this problem by baking slam into whirlwind

[keen kindle]

evreything else is used in both

[random shadow]

Too many

[keen kindle]

Oh so you just want arms to be fury

[random shadow]

Let me 1 button like unholy dks

[keen kindle]

Get out

[olive wraith]

Sweeping strikes considered a second button?

[random shadow]

And not lose any dps

[coarse nest]

We do now yes, we’re talking about how trinkets are no longer effected by character stats

[keen kindle]

Okay 2

[random shadow]

Ic

[keen kindle]

But is that really the end of the world?

[olive wraith]

Not at all

[keen kindle]

That's literally like average

[random shadow]

Sweeping strikes should come off the gcd

Frfr

[sullen tendon]

On top of having to switch rotation a shit ton in aoe vs on arms you also have to track like 5 buffs

[olive wraith]

I actually really like sweeping strikes as a concept

[keen kindle]

Okay I can agree there

[sullen tendon]

Overpower stacks exe stacks sweeping strike stacks might stacks your bleed timers ect

Cancer

[coarse nest]

I stopped tracking master of warfare

Less clutter

[random shadow]

Sweeping strikes should be baked into something somehow

[olive wraith]

You don’t track might I thought

[random shadow]

Dont really need to tbh

[keen kindle]

I kinda just don't think it needs to

[random shadow]

Doesnt affect your rotation

[coarse nest]

I also stopped tracking might stacks

[olive wraith]

It’s perma 10 stacks after opening

[sullen tendon]

Sweeping strikes is stupid right now because you just always have it up so why even make you press it

[random shadow]

Not wrong

[coarse nest]

I just fish for a sweep mortal strike crit on opener before sending cooldowns

[keen kindle]

Wooo boy yall cannot handle anything maintnece related

[coarse nest]

It’s better to get demolish on cd asap so you can cdr it back

[olive wraith]

Sweeping strikes is basically iww

[sullen tendon]

No it’s annoying and people don’t like it

[keen kindle]

I genuinely think

[sullen tendon]

I want to focus on gameplay and not managing my buffs

[keen kindle]

????

[olive wraith]

I mean that’s a type of gameplay dude

[random shadow]

Lol

[coarse nest]

Managing buffs is a playstyle

I like that about arms

[random shadow]

Dont play a dot clsss then

[sullen dove]

We just making some shit up lol tf you tracking literally any of these for

[sullen tendon]

Hitting things vs making sure my 12 buffs are on the right moon cycle to activate my next ability

[sullen dove]

sweep only thing that matters to add

[keen kindle]

Managing buffs is needed for a lot of specs in wow

wtf are you on

hell

[sullen dove]

and absolutely not needed for arms very heavily lol

[sullen tendon]

So you just throw smash whenever?

[sullen dove]

I mean when it’s up and there’s adds hell yeah why not?

[warm crag]

need an option to start a vote ban for when the rage bait quality is too low

[sullen tendon]

You don’t re apply Rend when it runs out?

[warm crag]

i'd be out in a week

[sullen dove]

I can pretty easily see rend

Notice how you didn’t say rend on the message I replied too

[sullen tendon]

You don’t get over power stacks for mortal strike?

[sullen dove]

and am instead calling out “op stacks”

[proven hornet]

are we not closing channel but instead just speaking about arms only now?

[sullen dove]

No that doesn’t even exist anymore I don’t think

[coarse nest]

You need to track these items

• Rend duration
• colossus smash duration
• sudden death procs
• heroic strike procs
• collateral damage stacks (2T scenario)
• sweeping strikes
• executioner precision stacks (during exe)*

Nothing else I can think of matters enough to track

[warm crag]

it does but it works differently and still doesnt matter i think

[sullen tendon]

The point stands

[sullen dove]

and even if it did irrelevant

[sullen tendon]

It’s too much shit to track

[stiff maple]

There's the talent that makes slam and op increase ms damage

But its irrelevant

[keen kindle]

Talking about arms is better then being as big of a dumbass as the paladins

[sullen tendon]

On top of constantly changing rotation

[stiff maple]

And not needed to be tracked

[keen kindle]

Half of this shit can be tracked by your bars lol

[olive wraith]

Arms isn’t for you then and that’s okay

[sullen dove]

idk the point of 3 of these

[proven hornet]

brother what they did literally worked, there is nothing dumb in that maybe funny because they cry a lot

[sullen tendon]

Yes really innovative gameplay when you hit slam at 100 to 35 then cleave from 35 to 20 then exe to 20 to 0

[keen kindle]

Just put your bars in a visable place. GG you can see all of this

[sullen dove]

who cares how much collat you have you either have it or you don’t it’s like basically always up no

[stiff maple]

You dont do this anymore

[olive wraith]

Stop this lmao. Ret closing discord didn’t do anything

[keen kindle]

If you genuinely think them closing the discord "worked", you're dumb and don't understand how blizzard, or any company, works

[sly merlin]

you don’t cleave in 35 anymore

[sullen tendon]

Your argument is “you can just ignore all that”

[keen kindle]

They didn't emergancy put it in

[sullen tendon]

Yes that means you do less damage if you ignore it

[sullen dove]

it doesn’t

[stiff maple]

No it doesn't

[coarse nest]

Well you track collateral on 2T because you press cleave on 2T at 3x CD stacks

[sullen tendon]

lol

[keen kindle]

I'm so fucking tired of people thinking blizzard actually gave a single shit about what happens in any class discord

[olive wraith]

Seriously

[stiff maple]

Youre doing less damage by paying attention to things that dont make you play different

[sullen tendon]

Just ignore your class design

[olive wraith]

I get it’s a meme. But people act like it’s true

[sullen tendon]

Fuck it

[sullen dove]

there are some things to track but acting like u gotta track all 15 diff buffs arms has is chopped

exe/op stacks literally who cares

You are hitting buttons in the same order regardless

[coarse nest]

Yeah I mean define “tracking” for a class

[sullen dove]

heroic might stacks also irrelevant unless you’re like on Beloren

and even then you will just naturally have 5 going into egg

[stiff maple]

I think you might want to track exe precision but

[coarse nest]

Every single ability has to be tracked technically so you know when you can press it

[stiff maple]

I think that and rend are literally the only debuff you care about

[sullen dove]

idk I just hit exe twice and neuron activate im allowed to hit ms now

[stiff maple]

My brain doesn't work I need the icon to keep track of if

[olive wraith]

Does fury have a similar amount of trackable buffs?

[odd crater]

What are we arguing about today

[keen kindle]

rend

[olive wraith]

Berserk, bloodcraze, iww, the 3 buttons that buff other buttons

[keen kindle]

And maintence buffs

[sullen tendon]

Arms has the same problem that enhancement has in that it’s cancer to track maelstrom like stacks and buffs. The spec design should be about using abilities and not maintenance

[stiff maple]

It is about using abilities

[keen kindle]

...I'm gonna be honest man

If you think that, wow isn't for you

[sullen tendon]

No it’s about tracking buffs and bleeds

[keen kindle]

Hell no, the MMO genre isn't for you

[stiff maple]

You track 1 bleed and 1 buff

[keen kindle]

Evrey class tracks shit

[sullen dove]

bleeds

[sullen tendon]

Rend maintenance is stupid

Remove it

[coarse nest]

I can’t think of a class/spec that doesn’t utilize the cooldown manager 😂

[sullen dove]

And it’s something both specs shared until this last week

[stiff maple]

I dknt disagree really but its also not a lot to keep track of

[sullen tendon]

Bring back fervor of battle whirlwind

[odd crater]

Keeping up a 20sec DoT is hard?

[sullen tendon]

Abilities should feed into more abilities

Not feed into buffs

[stiff maple]

What

[undone flower]

The only buffs I track is : CDs, sudden death and rend

IWW for ww

[odd crater]

I just track WW stacks lewl

[undone flower]

Sudden death is just to give me dopamine, I put a sound each time I get a stack

[sullen tendon]

Arms is just cancer man I don’t know how else to explain it

[coarse nest]

Right turn
God I want condemn back so badly

[novel rivet]

it's ok not to like things

[warm crag]

shrink

[stiff maple]

If you dont like it that's okay but I think part of you not liking arms is that you're tracking super unnecessary shit

[stiff maple]

And also they made the rotation better with the .5

[odd crater]

Gotta play solely off vibes

[keen kindle]

I'd joke ret but even I know I'm, wrong

[odd crater]

This is the way

[keen kindle]

Condemm deserved to die

🙂

[stiff maple]

I think the only thing I hate about arms is rage

Feels like it needs a rework. I want a real builder

[novel rivet]

it's a balancing nightmare but deadly calm condemn spam on pull was fun for some time

[undone flower]

Delete rage on arms, give them a shiny charge thingy like ret and forget

[novel rivet]

brown charges

[keen kindle]

I do think arms needs a rework

But I...kinda don't want it to become an extremely generic builder spender

Fury is already that

warrior dosen't need 2 furies

[coarse nest]

The spec feels so much better when it is not juggling rage starving

[stiff maple]

Arms is actually so cbt without a shaman man

[keen kindle]

Agreed

[undone flower]

arms rn is very good gameplay just…. rage is

Not fun

[coarse nest]

It is not skill expression esk

It’s just bad

[keen kindle]

I'd rather rework rage into something impactful

Rather then just feast or famine

[undone flower]

Or.. do like fury, rage is meaningless but don’t get on your way

[keen kindle]

I mean

I wouldn't say rage is meaningless on fury

Fury is more so just using rage to fuel enrage

[coarse nest]

Arms should be able to rage starve its self with horrible gameplay but it should not be able to rage starve if you are spending your op charges and ms on cooldown

[novel rivet]

make it famine, but buttons hit super hard

[coarse nest]

Like yes hur dur execute and no other button for 35% of the bosses health should not work

[sullen tendon]

I just want fury to be viable because it’s my favorite spec. I reluctantly play other things as alts when fury is completely dog shit like in s1 and s2 of tww. It just sucks so much when you get to the point of higher end content where you spend more time applying to things than actually playing purely because your spec is limited in useful utility and damage.

[novel rivet]

so the challenge is correct prio

[coarse nest]

But if I weave in my ms and op constantly I should have enough rage to always press execute when the other two are not available

For example

[sullen tendon]

Arms is good right now but it’s cancer to play.

[stiff maple]

I think you should give it another go with the .5 patch and tracking less useless shit

tbh

Also I wouldn't say fury is unplayable

[sullen tendon]

It’s not unplayable

It’s just impossible to get invited to m+ as fury

Because arms is better right now

Also our st is awful

[teal slate]

I'm still getting invites to 17s as fury 🤷 it's slower but they are there

[coarse nest]

Just do the switcheru on pull timer

[sullen tendon]

Wait until you have to fight 700 dks and dhs in 18s and 19s

[coarse nest]

Fuckem dude fotm people are so annoying

[abstract tulip]

arms isnt even better

[stiff maple]

Im ngl I dont think your avg guy is looking at whether your arms or fury but maybe im cooked

[abstract tulip]

they do

[sullen tendon]

I gave up trying to apply after spending 4 days and 500 applications to 18s and just started upgrading my own key then failing because pugs die to dumb shit

Then upgrading again

[coarse nest]

Well correction* wanting to play the best class is fine but the people who refuse to invite anyone that isn’t fotm are the ones I find annoying.

[sullen tendon]

Then depleting becuse the whale dies to aoe

Then upgrading again

[stiff maple]

Augmentation Devourer Unholy

Every group

[abstract tulip]

just gonna start playing prot on my warrior soon

[sullen tendon]

The depleting encoder mage falls over dead on boss

[abstract tulip]

bis gear is almost carbon copy of fury anyways

[olive wraith]

Fury is viable though

[quiet geyser]

Hate the V word

Every spec in the game is viable in any given patch

Doesn't make it good though

[random shadow]

Arms much better then fury currently tho

[sullen tendon]

Being viable doesnt mean it will make people invite you

[olive wraith]

Correct

[sullen tendon]

Fury can do decent damage in keys but people won’t invite fury because arms does more uncapped aoe.

[coarse nest]

It’s just modern gaming

Nothing we can do about it

[sullen tendon]

You are basically 4th in line to be picked

You have to hope the stars align

[olive wraith]

Refer to this

[keen kindle]

Welcome to literally 99% of the specs in the game

[sullen tendon]

Nihilism is awful

[sullen tendon]

Bullshit lol

[coarse nest]

A brand new game comes out and the top google search for it is “what is the best class to play in X game”

[keen kindle]

It's not

[sullen tendon]

It is

[coarse nest]

[keen kindle]

Go play literally any other class that isn't meta

[random shadow]

Correct

[keen kindle]

Or dosen't have lust or a CR

[random shadow]

Folks gotta and like to optimize everything

[keen kindle]

Tell me if the experience is any different

[random shadow]

Incohding game

[novel rivet]

even in single player games lmao

[sullen tendon]

You are describing like 3 or 4 other specs and they all get invited over us

[olive wraith]

Hey do you think destro lok gets same invites as demo

[coarse nest]

It’s actually so sad guys

[sullen tendon]

Rogues get invited over us becusee they do more damage

[random shadow]

Do they tho?

[coarse nest]

We had it absolutely made in the 360/ps3 era (including pc stuff of that time)

[olive wraith]

It depends

[coarse nest]

We’re cooked

[sullen tendon]

Yes

[keen kindle]

I play a rogue

the invite game isn't much better

Ya know what

[sullen tendon]

At what level

[keen kindle]

I should bring back my fucking stats

[random shadow]

I dont thjnk ive seen a rouge out dps me

And I've seen many

[novel rivet]

that's why people fotm reroll btw

[stiff maple]

I dont think rogues are getting many more invites lol

[sullen tendon]

What’s your ilvl and what’s your spec

[keen kindle]

13s. Even there people are obessed with meta

Outlaw

278

[sullen tendon]

Omfg

[keen kindle]

Lmao

[sullen tendon]

Lmao

Dude

[random shadow]

Lmao

[sullen tendon]

Come on

[coarse nest]

Outlaw gamer 🫡

[random shadow]

13s a chill keylevel

[keen kindle]

Keep in mind

[stiff maple]

I think if you are not aug, devourer, unholy, maybe demo lock

Youre in the same boat

[coarse nest]

Arms/outlaw are my favorite

[sullen tendon]

I’m talking about 18 and up keys

[keen kindle]

So?

Is the experience of invs truly different there?

[sullen tendon]

You do not get invited at all as a fury war

[sullen tendon]

Yes

I see rogues all the time I my 17 keys

Assess and outlaw

[keen kindle]

Ya know what else I have to say right?

The dreaded advice to avoid all of this invite nonsense?

[stiff maple]

Survivorship bias, you are much more likely to be grouped with a rogue to keys you get invited to

[olive wraith]

My anecdote is truer than your anecdote

[novel rivet]

get friends

[keen kindle]

Run. Your. Own. Key.

[stiff maple]

Because people are building for physical composition

[keen kindle]

And stop complaining about invites

[sullen tendon]

I do

And people still fuck it up

[random shadow]

Running own keys kinda suck higher tho. Getting a key back up to 17 then bricking then repeating is annoying

[sullen tendon]

Healers that die 5 times

[random shadow]

Getting more pugs to time the 16 to get a chance to attempt 17s kinda suck

[sullen tendon]

Shamans that don’t purge

Tanks that fall over dead on first lust pull

[stiff maple]

My fotm reroll brew will find new procs to brick the key every time

[olive wraith]

It’s annoying but probably still the lesser of 2 evils

[keen kindle]

Ya know what else I'm gonna suggest?

make friends

There are solutions to these problems

[olive wraith]

Bobby I’ll be your friend

[stiff maple]

Sometimes its annoying to run my resil 18 seat of the triumvirate and brick it to the 3rd or 4th boss like 4 times in a row

[olive wraith]

Since I’m obsessed

[random shadow]

That's what I did for 15-16 resi lol

[stiff maple]

Just 2 hours Gone

[keen kindle]

If you aren't willing to do it, then don't complain about the evil you've inflicted on yourself.

[sullen tendon]

I tried doing my 18 seat last night and the hunter died fucking 8 times and we still almost timed it. Then the fucking healer died to aoe on the last boss and I was back to a 17

[random shadow]

Idc to push higher as much i want to for 3500 or resi 17s

[olive wraith]

Totally fair. But it’s kinda the same as q for an hour, wipe on fist pull “gg nt” then q for another hour

[stiff maple]

Yea but at least I just sit there and play runescape or scroll Twitter while I queue on the side

[abstract tulip]

I just did one 14 as colo arms and wanted to kms

the 2k dps diff isnt worth it

[stiff maple]

Tbh I haven't had a horrible time getting invites

[olive wraith]

Uh oh

Don’t tell Bobby

[random shadow]

Should be more then 2k unless you're judt playing wrong

[warm crag]

yeah what the fuck are you pressing for it to only be 2k

[abstract tulip]

the hyperbole

[random shadow]

Nah bro arms is pumping way more then fury

[stiff maple]

Maybe it really is all in the arms differential but I've been able to pug up to 19s/20s

[random shadow]

Can play fury perfectly fine if you enjoy it and is good. But arms overall in general is judt more damage

[abstract tulip]

slayer fury is the true hidden tech

[olive wraith]

lol what

[graceful mural]

No it is not

[olive wraith]

It’s not but okay

[random shadow]

[stiff maple]

We are ALL playing slayer fury in our keys

[olive wraith]

If you find it more fun knock yourself out

[random shadow]

Jokes on you. Im enjoying col arms

[warm crag]

hidden tech 🗣️ 🗣️
keep it hidden 🗣️ 🔥

[stiff maple]

Colossus is pretty fun but god i hate demolish

[abstract tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[keen kindle]

Demolsih omega overhated

[coarse nest]

I specifically enjoy demolish

[stiff maple]

Ive been a hater since day 1

[keen kindle]

Going from lowest

[olive wraith]

Demolish overhated
Bs over liked

Hot take

[bitter palm]

you listen but you dont hear...

[keen kindle]

To immediately fucking deleting the meter

Is so satisfying

[abstract tulip]

I had super awkward moments with demolish, if only you could move

[stiff maple]

Yea but id like to not be cc'd for 2 seconds every 15 seconds in aoe

[warm crag]

i will be demolishing the forseeable future thank you very much

[keen kindle]

Leap exists

[coarse nest]

Arms owns

[keen kindle]

🤷‍♂️

And you can hold demo if there's aoes

Use your brain

[stiff maple]

It is a satisfying ability but frontal cone and not super mobile during it is cringe

[sullen tendon]

The fucking arms snakes crept in here and sowed discord all around us! Get out! This is a place for fury to complain about fury!

[olive wraith]

What’s a brain

[sullen dove]

[keen kindle]

God damn it

[stiff maple]

.>

[keen kindle]

[lyric harness]

Waddup Chat. Any slayer enjoyers here? Why the fuck is my damage better with slayer and not with thane? Is my brain cooked?

[stiff maple]

I understand how to use demolish

[sullen tendon]

Slayer shit don’t play

[olive wraith]

Raid or keys

[lyric harness]

Keys

[sullen tendon]

Read above message

[odd crater]

Slayer are the true chads

[olive wraith]

You’re doing something wrong as thane

[abstract tulip]

playing slayer is a major key

[lyric harness]

Nah you thane betas just can’t slay

[olive wraith]

Oh wait

What key level

[lyric harness]

14+

[olive wraith]

Slayer has better burst

Hmm maybe not that then

Ya you’re playing thane wrong most likely

[odd crater]

What is your Slayer DPS

[lyric harness]

My dps pp is small I don’t wanna tell you

[odd crater]

If DPS is small just find group with small hands to have it look big

[lyric harness]

[keen kindle]

It's okay

Mine is too

[stiff maple]

If youre doing piss on thane you probably just aren't clapping enough on aoe

I would guess

[lyric harness]

It depends on dungeon and pulls but I range around 140-160k, don’t know if that’s good. My best was almost 200k but that was a +6 farming the haste mastery 2h

As slayer

[random shadow]

Do higher keys

Fixed dps issue

[lyric harness]

As thane though right? I try to push 14 keys and feel like I suck with thane. Slayer is so much more fun too haha

[lyric harness]

But I guess that might really be the issue

[olive wraith]

Thane is better but if you enjoy slayer more that’s fine too

[stiff maple]

I mean if youre enjoying slayer just play it

[olive wraith]

Ye

[lyric harness]

Nah I want biggest pp on meter

[olive wraith]

Reroll then

[random shadow]

Then arms

[olive wraith]

[random shadow]

Or reroll

[stiff maple]

It was pretty weird to implant in my brain that im clapping every other global in aoe during cds

[lyric harness]

[olive wraith]

Alternatively you could run RR in the dungeons with massive pulls

Might help your overall slightly

[timid tide]

Well, if you want to get some points on the DPS meter, you should. Feels like Thane burst is Clap, rampage, ramge, clap, rampage, BT, rampage, Clap, BT, rampage

[lyric harness]

Yeah feels pretty wrong tbh

[olive wraith]

Or just get better at thane

Any one of these will work

[lyric harness]

What’s RR again? My brain is cooked from escape from tarkov. RR=red rebel to me

[terse ether]

I have seen people are getting notifications on when they should use their cooldowns. is that an addon or personal note timers from NRST ?

[bitter palm]

rampaging runin

ruin

[olive wraith]

The rampage sofcap talent

[stiff maple]

Ya I know how to play the spec, I was just saying it didn't feel natural to me when I learned it

[keen kindle]

I think it's tell me when

[lyric harness]

Ahhh ty ty

[timid tide]

Are people using RR? I have the cancelaura macro, but just see no benefit of it (the talent)

[olive wraith]

Very few afaik

They all swap to thane or arms mostly

[lyric harness]

No no I should’ve worded differently. I mean it feels wrong to me haha but yeah ape is the way it seems

Aoe*

Appreciate the input everyone

[timid tide]

RR is stil a talent you can take as Thane

[lyric harness]

I guess I will clap more cheeks in dungeons to get bigger pp

[olive wraith]

Warrior on brother

[olive wraith]

It’s way more cringe as thane tbf

[timid tide]

Just make sure to clap even on 2-3-4 mobs, to get the WW buff so you hit them with your bloodthirst/bath/Blow/Exe

[winter shoal]

RR extremely cringe no matter what

[lyric harness]

Well that I know at least haha

[olive wraith]

I mean you clap over rb in those cases anyways don’t you

[lyric harness]

One more question chat. How much dps do you average? In general as thane. Above 10+ keys

[timid tide]

Sometimes on ST you can use RB, just coz it refunds more rage

[olive wraith]

That’s not 2-4 mobs

[timid tide]

Really depends on the key and tank. should be close to 120-150

[timid tide]

ah yes. I meant on ST you can skip normal clap

[olive wraith]

Clap is still higher if avatar is active iiirc

[random shadow]

Correct

[abstract tulip]

depends on group comp, 120 to 140

[random shadow]

More then the other 2 dps id the correct answer here

[abstract tulip]

if I do more than the other 2 my group was bad

[random shadow]

As long you do more and gap the other 2 dps you win

[timid tide]

I've had cases where in Windrunner the tank would position packs in such way, where the poison would prevent me from doing dps for a few seconds here and there, so that'll bring your overall down

[abstract tulip]

unironically

[random shadow]

Not fully true

[sullen tendon]

They are afraid to make it activate in addition to rampage because then it might make fury able to keep up in mass aoe.

[gloomy loom]

Slayer is going to be good with the new buffs? Or thane still better

[olive wraith]

What new buffs

[random shadow]

but but theres no buffs

[gloomy loom]

Arent those reworks a buffs?

[olive wraith]

From last week?

[random shadow]

like a 2 % st nerf and like some what aoe buff

[gloomy loom]

Rend on ww etc

Oh they are already live?

[olive wraith]

Yes that’s last weeks stuff. Thane still ahead

[gloomy loom]

Didnt even notice lol

[random shadow]

its been live for a week

[olive wraith]

Yes it’s live lol

[random shadow]

what have you been doing since last tuseday

[gloomy loom]

I only farmed myth raid first day and didnt play for the rest of the week

Going to freeze probably

Not even filled the m+ vault lol

[prisma raft]

hey people, whenever i'm in full burst or w/e, and have rage for 3 rampages do i ever press bloodbath? if yes when or what do i do? do i press thunderblast over rampage/blodbath

i feel like i should just stick to my monk xd

[verbal hill]

I believe its rampage top priority over 100 rage. otherwise, thunderblast is top priority if 2 stacks, and otherwise BB top priority always

you really want to keep BB on cooldown as much as you can. but you don't want to waste rage or the chance of generating TB charges

[prisma raft]

so in principle, Rampage over anything else generally, i'm confused sorry

[fickle vector]

When do blue posts usually come out?? Think we will see any tuning changes??

[fading sky]

Check wowhead

It rly is the best visual aid

[verbal hill]

I like to think of it as "keep rage under 100 over anything else". and rampage is just your tool for doing that. but if you have 50 rage then no rampage is not your top priority

[fading sky]

Havoc up 5% u heard it here first

[verbal hill]

the other exception is if enrage has worn off then yeah you rampage to get that buff back up

I'm also fairly new to this version of fury so I'm probably missing some edge cases

[prisma raft]

and in AoE situations do you spam Thunder clap or just whenever ww stacks fade?

[verbal hill]

but its helped me get my rotation down better to just think of 3 things: "Keep rage under 100, Keep BB on cooldown, Keep TB stacks under 2"

[sly merlin]

6tar+ u spam clap ifaik

been working for me too so i think that’s correct

[prisma raft]

@sly merlin do i squeeze any bloodbaths in aoe? cause so many times i'm swiming in rage and spam rampage+clap

or bloodthirsts even*

[sly merlin]

i think i’ve seen noxiv throw in some bloodbaths

[sullen tendon]

Cast bt to keep bloodborne up

[modest condor]

at 7 targets on higher you just ignore bb for as long as you can rampage

below that you press bb

the wowhead guide tells you the priority for both st and aoe

[sullen tendon]

It depends on what your doing too

It’s probably Better to throw off empowered bb on a priority target like the subjegators in seat Than press tc

[grizzled light]

Hey, i havea question about dungeon Triumvirate can we break the chain in war fury? without storm talent

[modest condor]

berserker rage with the talent that removes slows

[sullen tendon]

Yes

[undone flower]

Fearless

[grizzled light]

this?

[sullen tendon]

Yes

[grizzled light]

Thanks u , so break all the chain for group?

[undone flower]

The other talent in that choice

[sullen tendon]

It works on the seer circles in nexus too

[modest condor]

i cant read french but that looks like you're hovering over the wrong talent

[sullen tendon]

No only you

[grizzled light]

wow ok right talent

[undone flower]

Yes he is hovering the group fear dispel

[grizzled light]

Thanks u !

[toxic pivot]

Beyond Noxiv who are other streamers/yt people i can watch for Fury?

[sullen tendon]

They all play arms now

[spare steppe]

They’re missing out

Fury is a blast

[opal finch]

is darkmoon trinket a solid craft if no access to mythic trinkets?

[teal rose]

Hello new to this page and have been for a little bit. Sorry if this is to long but I’m curious so im hoping someone can explain

So when I look at logs it shows the rotations and how much apart said attacks are being pressed so some are being pressed let’s say 1.653 seconds after they pressed the last attack. A second goes by quick

When playing furry are you just spamming attacks or is it quick and casual if that makes sense?? im not saying wait a minute to press the next attack but I think part of my issue is im just going way to fucking nuts on the pressing my attacks for rotation

My charts have got better my uptime is getting better. Im noticing that on analyzer my biggest thing it said im not pushing rampage enough but I felt like I was. So I may be stumbling over my attacks and not giving that full second to finish

I know this is stupid but im just stuck on the small shit and it’s just fine tuning at this point

[serene cloud]

With more familiarity, Ive noticed that taking the time to think / evaluate the next attack results in an overall better flow. Yes, can mash the abilities can be fine, but paying attention to amount of enemies and if my cleave is up or not, makes my damage higher

[hybrid cargo]

so your spells should be pressed as soon as the GCD allows for it, some ppl spam some ppl dont. the number one thing you should always ensure is not over capping rage and rampage is not only your only spender but your best source of being enraged as well as recucing the cooldown of recklessness (and avatar if you are playing mountain thane)

[undone flower]

Your next gcd does not mash your rampage no

[hybrid cargo]

during recklessness rampage will more often than not be cast every other GCD

[teal rose]

Okay good to know

[undone flower]

When your gcd allows a spell to be press : your spell queue window (400ms by default before the actual cast)

[hybrid cargo]

if you over cap rage not only are you missing out on potential rampage casts youre also missing out on CDR

[teal rose]

Im not over capping I fixed that problem.

[supple lotus]

you could also be over rampaging

if you are pressing rampage at 50 rage with say bloodbath up thats damage loss

[hybrid cargo]

that too

[supple lotus]

if you are unsure about what you are doing wrong best course of action is to go and either compare everything cast by cast to one of the top logs or run a quick sim and compare what it is doing for casts to what you are doing for casts

[teal rose]

Okay that makes sense

[spare steppe]

If you can time 10s you have access to mythic trinkets. Realistically though heroic gaze and heart are both better than any mythic trinket

[fleet yarrow]

even box?

[undone flower]

Maybe not heart of hunger

[spare steppe]

Ehhhhhh probably not but box makes me mad

In a coordinated group heart is better

[undone flower]

Heroic heart prob don’t beat mythic box

[spare steppe]

Nah

But I imagine it’s pretty close

[fleet yarrow]

I just have heroic heart + box atm

[undone flower]

yep it’s 0.4% diff

On my char

[smoky vale]

@frail bloom why overlord in keys

[frail bloom]

not a thing

[unborn delta]

i just use heart + gaze

[spare steppe]

Easiest way to go

AM makes stat sticks feel awful imo

[olive wraith]

How so

[undone flower]

We just are 45/1min30

That’s it

[sullen tendon]

I love stats! Never give me a cool trinket again as long as I get more stats blizzard!

Let’s go back to arcano crystal!

[chilly fractal]

I wouldn’t mind relaxing and farming Arcane Crystals in Classic WoW

[fading sky]

Its opposite

[runic violet]

Man.. I hate my fury's dps is so low while my alt ret is just wrecking everything

[smoky vale]

what do you think keys are gonna end up as

[fading sky]

Was gonna say its a u problem

But ret is beastly atm🤣

And fury is not

Sadly when based.

On st dmg

And st dmg isnt top fury wolø suxk

[abstract tulip]

slayer fury actually sims the highest for me right now in my current gear

[fading sky]

Ofc but like

Slayer fury should sim 115-120k compensatin for the flat profile

All this would mean the 65% cleave would do more as well

[olive wraith]

That’s too strong clearly

[dim spindle]

It's actually a pretty decent trinket but the main issue is it counts as an embellishment

[fading sky]

That was s03 fury

[dim spindle]

If it wasn't for that I'd say it's definitely worth a craft if you haven't gotten a BiS

[olive wraith]

They can’t possibly let our st be good and lower the iww value

[fading sky]

Dont need 2

[olive wraith]

Way too strong Blizz says

[fading sky]

That would still make us just near.meta

Arms could use another 10k st as well

[vague stump]

guys dw we are getting a 10% rb buff soon dw gonna fix all our single target issues 😂

[fading sky]

Would affect aoe less and balance specs

[fading sky]

I mean tbh

10% rb and some aa dmg

Could help a lot🤣

[dim spindle]

I'd be happy with even a simple AA buff at this point]

(not the academy)

It would have to be a pretty big boost to get our ST up to par, though

[vague stump]

I mean we have to get a buff soon but I do expect it so be some small rb buff or some weird aura buff even though we need alot more

[olive wraith]

I’m still an advocate of lowering reap/clap damage and improving our iww/st prio niche

[dim spindle]

lower clap damage? Blasphemy

HERETIC

[vague stump]

idk man we already get omega gapped in aoe let alone go even more into prio

[spark coral]

Across the board 10% dmg buff

[dim spindle]

A buff to our snap mass aoe would be nice but apparently that's not our class fantasy

We just have to live with being near unviable for certain upper level keys

[spark coral]

Throw us a lust spell too

[olive wraith]

Nah

[dim spindle]

But only for ourselves

[vague stump]

I would actually give my left nut for a good rampaging ruin rework

[spark coral]

Lusty shout

[vague stump]

like the talent should be good

[olive wraith]

Lust boring

[vague stump]

in theory but its just horrible

[dim spindle]

How about lust but instead of haste % it's mastery %. Or hell, even vers. Would be pretty nice for m+

Or no lust, but something, ANYTHING, to move us up closer to the other specs. Surely it's on the horizon

Surely?

[vague stump]

idk bro we have arms so in bliz eyes we have 1 kinda good spec

[worn rain]

maldraxxus banner incoming

[vague stump]

so fury just gets nothing

[dim spindle]

(the horizon is one of those you see where the more you mvoe towards it the further it moves away)

[dim spindle]

Arms is weak af in certain situations too

I'm running low on hopium, guys... anyone have a good plug?

Archi has cut us off recently 🙁

[vague stump]

my hopium ran out when we didnt get a balance note change on Friday

maybe this week

but I aint holding hope tbh

[dim spindle]

discord shutdown when?

And we do it for real, the entire server. Not just the fury channel

[vague stump]

and even if it happens it will be so small it wont matter anyway

[dim spindle]

Surely blizzard would HAVE to listen

[vague stump]

idk man we haven't even had a wowhead post

[fading sky]

Both warripr specs needs a decent st buff

[dim spindle]

Truly the brownheaded stepchild

[fading sky]

Baseline being this bad in st while havin low burst is madness

[frozen scarab]

they’re cooking up a recklessness/avatar 30 cd nerf brotatochip

[fading sky]

Heck this dmg profile should sim top 5

Imho st

Any downtime we are cooked

[dim spindle]

I'm already top 5, every single time

in M+

[fading sky]

Trueth

[dim spindle]

But I'm just that good, so

[olive wraith]

In utility?

[vague stump]

tbh at this stage I wouldn't even be surprised with a nerf just kill the spec off completely we can go back to the arms meme but fury at the start of the season

[fading sky]

Tbh arms is same in raid

[dim spindle]

Ok, correction... top 5 any time I'm not in a group with a demo lock

[fading sky]

Arms carried by col

Then pet beats u

[vague stump]

yeah true for like 1 fight

[dim spindle]

I guess we just have to continue substituting our hopium with disappointium a while longer

[gleaming crag]

why cant they just make slayer reach 10 stacks again like TWW

I feel just reverting the changes they did to slayer would fix the spec

[olive wraith]

Of overwhelmed?

[dense elbow]

urgh, how about no

Now, they want to beef up Slayer ST?

TWWs3 (2) set

[gleaming crag]

thats what 6% aura?

[dense elbow]

I rather just take a 20-30% buff to execute dam

make our exe phase great again, make our ST better, just makes everything better

[echo rapids]

I want a grim reaper animation when I sudden death execute

[olive wraith]

Just pick a niche honestly

I don’t wanna be bad at everything

[dense elbow]

You dont like execute?

[echo rapids]

What’s cringe about that

[dense elbow]

You should go play something else

[gleaming crag]

not when it has a cd

[echo rapids]

We are the original execute class

[gleaming crag]

I've played warrior since tbc

[echo rapids]

Day 1 wow baby

My warrior is as old as the game

[dense elbow]

Same, same

[olive wraith]

It’s okay for execute to be different between arms and fury

If execute lost its cd and costed rage I think fury would be worse overall

[echo rapids]

I gotta bust out the original epic arctic wolf mount to style on the kids

[gleaming crag]

it feels like they want arms to be more about armor pen again, and maybe they should explore that while giving all the bleeds to fury.

[echo rapids]

I think we feel ok in execute gameplay wise, just doesn’t hit hard enough

[olive wraith]

They already gave us all the bleeds

[echo rapids]

It’s not “oh hell yeah execute”

Please no to bleeds, it’s bad

[halcyon harness]

On chim do you reck on pull if youre soaking first?

[echo rapids]

I got a 75 parse just recking on CD

made me give up any CD planning

[halcyon harness]

Lmao k i guess adds die too quick rn to justify it

[echo rapids]

Everyone steals the little add damage too fast

I think as long as you have reck for first intermission adds it’s fine

[dense elbow]

just go for boss parses

adds die too fast either way

[loud field]

👋

hey folks what up

[echo rapids]

I went down with the Druid tank, the aggro on the adds isn’t fun

[loud field]

did anything change with slayer vs thane in raid? or not really

[olive wraith]

No

[loud field]

so mostly thane still if you need add damage, slayer if you're just ST pumping?

[fading sky]

Fury doesnt rly need execute niche imho as much as arms

[olive wraith]

Ya idk why you’d want it to be the same as arms

[echo rapids]

Slayer isn’t a huge ST increase but sure

[loud field]

oh is it not

[olive wraith]

Nah it’s not

[sullen tendon]

They changed like one thing for slayer

[loud field]

fair enough, ty for info

[olive wraith]

It does have a bit better add burst

So you could try stealing some padding. But you probably won’t be very
successful

Awwww Bobby enters as I’m talking

Don’t be coy

[fading sky]

Same

Id rather fury gets stronger cds in gen and a lesser leap during exe

Slayers main adv is if bladestorm aligns with.a burst

[olive wraith]

I mean I’d also like if execute did a bigger portion of the breakdown as slayer

Extra prio damage or something

[fading sky]

I mean i dno man

[olive wraith]

I kinda like that bt is our chunky <35% button

[fading sky]

So many modifiers for mediocre dmg

Still think slayers terrible design

When forcin both specs into exe

Is mad

[olive wraith]

I think this is a fury problem

[fading sky]

M8

Arms is same

[olive wraith]

Too many this button buffs that button

[fading sky]

Its more in talents as fury

[olive wraith]

I don’t know arms well enough

But it’s not a slayer issue imo, it’s the spec

[fading sky]

Well

U force design into exe across vastly

Different spec designs

Pigeon holing shit

Like idiots

[compact knot]

both specs have the same boring talent design.

they made something cool with kill or be killed, it just hasnt had a use yet, they tried with rampaging ruin but it was implemented poorly

those are like the only 2 talents that where interesting

[fading sky]

Like theres a reason why best solution is like

Bdk

I meant fdk - uhk

[sullen tendon]

When I press execute I want to see a chunk of the enemies health bar disappear

[fading sky]

They share 1 totally passive tree

[fading sky]

If u are arms yes

[sullen tendon]

No in fury

[vague stump]

I wish ruin worked

[fading sky]

Then u are wrong

[vague stump]

I really do the idea is great but its just bad

[fading sky]

In fury its there for ok dmg, while providing more rage by a.mile

Which increases ramps

And gives.exe feelin

Of an increased dmg

[sullen tendon]

Fury should do everything arms should but better. Because fury is what warriors should be and arms is for paladins pretending to be normal

[fading sky]

In arms u increase rage spenditury which aligns with.a chunky hit

[olive wraith]

I disagree. Buff our other aoe instead

[fading sky]

Ah so u are just spouting foolishness

I mean idea is fine

[sullen tendon]

I don’t want execute to buff other skills

[olive wraith]

I liked the idea of mfe

[sullen tendon]

I want to press execute and kill things hard

[fading sky]

Then play arms

[vague stump]

70% improved ww would slap tbh

[sullen tendon]

Execute is a fury ability

[fading sky]

U cant have a builder doing big dmg

[olive wraith]

Bladestorm is an arms ability

[fading sky]

Its not never truly was

[vague stump]

rampage to 8 targets and 70% improved ww

[sullen tendon]

Bladestorm is also a fury ability

[vague stump]

goat spec for M+

[sullen tendon]

Arms can have heroic throw and slam and cleave

[fading sky]

Bladestorm works better on fury in modern wow

[vague stump]

if it hit harder sure

[fading sky]

As again arms is a proc based spender class

Bladestorm in st makes littlr sense

Carried by not loosin st via 4p

Without 4p as armd idno msn

[olive wraith]

Fury shouldn’t channel for 2 seconds

[fading sky]

I mean fury could channel for 5 sec

Would still feel fine if dmg was app

[olive wraith]

Nah that doesn’t feel fury

[fading sky]

As it matters little

For fury.

[olive wraith]

Need to be casting on gcd

[fading sky]

1.5m cd that.made u spin for 5sec

Id take it, if it was proper bursy

[olive wraith]

Nah make of better

[fading sky]

If u hit.bladestorm and u could c it on detaiøs

Of 's cd is 2 short.sadly

[olive wraith]

Make 2 casts = your beefy bs

Easy

Idk, TLDR I’m just annoyed that we have stuff like rb makes next bt press better, execute makes next ramp better, etc

[frozen scarab]

does arms use champions spear

[compact knot]

no

[olive wraith]

Maybe next season

Secret nokhud tech or something

[compact knot]

been saying this was awful talent design

[cobalt sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[frank dawn]

if only my irl fury for the spec situation could be channeled into the game

I'd be top dps for sure

[olive wraith]

Also I really love that rb and bt take turns being ignored in the rotation

[frank dawn]

imagine having 80% of the talent tree dedicated to nothing but those two abilities, and still not being able to make one not be ignored

[compact knot]

was pretty good in DF

until s3

[olive wraith]

Meh

S1 you didn’t really like bt that much iirc

S2 you pressed bt every like 15 seconds

S3 slam=rb

S3 was a bit static though

[terse ether]

can some1 share the spell reflect spreadsheet pleas e? 🙂

[olive wraith]

It’s pinned in prot

[winter shoal]

it's also pinned here innit

#fury message

[olive wraith]

Oh so it is

[modest condor]

it's also in the dps faq

[keen kindle]

So guys

Should I off spec fury?

[olive wraith]

Choice is yours friend

I’ve never enjoyed arms>fury

Even s2 tww

[keen kindle]

I main arms but

this xpack is the one time I stop being a one trick lol

[olive wraith]

If you main arms do that lol

[keen kindle]

Might grab a log because I don't think I do that well as fury

[olive wraith]

Afaik they’re about equal in raid but arms> for keys

[fading bane]

75 more minutes, can die can die

[modest condor]

surely

[subtle nova]

so is slayer good on fury in m+ now?

[keen kindle]

I know that's true, fury isn't unplayable in keys right?

[olive wraith]

Nah it’s fine

[olive wraith]

^

Thane better, but slayer is okay

[fading bane]

this is with 2 dead dps all p4

next one next one

[sly merlin]

playable af but goodluck getting invites in higher keys

it’s chill if u have friends or a physical comp

[keen kindle]

I already don't

so

nothing chanegs lol

[sly merlin]

ouggh

i’m going for more 18s this week and it’s been horrible getting into keys

[keen kindle]

I haven't pushed as high as I should

[dense elbow]

Pro tip:
Join a tank mate duo

[sly merlin]

my tank friend on vacation

gg

[keen kindle]

WEll then

just don't play the game

get crests and gg

[dense elbow]

Time for a vacation for Stephen

[sly merlin]

already capped and i did a bunch of 17s and two 18s without him

i need him back

[keen kindle]

reset tomorrow

just

[dense elbow]

No changes ftw

[sly merlin]

hoping for m heart in vault

at least..

[dense elbow]

I hope for Aln, so I can throw two bonus rolls for the rings

[sly merlin]

i bonus rolled my gaze

so lucky

[dense elbow]

I failed my 50/50, but i needed boots

[keen kindle]

I would kill for any trinkie at this point

I have myth weap

[sly merlin]

i got boots from normal drop same kill i bonus rolled gaze

[dense elbow]

Who doesnt

[keen kindle]

Still have a trash hero sapor paw

[dense elbow]

I have LFR gaze

[sly merlin]

i’m gonna be crest locked for like weeks now lmao i have 3 myth pieces to upgrade and no crests

[keen kindle]

I have uhh

6 myth?

no 4

I'm behind on crests so I need giga crests

[dense elbow]

Remember you can turn the old useless crests to good crests

[sly merlin]

i need more 18s…

[sly merlin]

yeah but they’re capped so

afaik

[dense elbow]

Heh, I got the same AA prog as you

U slacking

[sly merlin]

dude i spam queued 17 aa since fucking friday

and got in like 2

so cooked

[keen kindle]

Bricked on first pull?

[sly merlin]

ye

[dense elbow]

Just ask the tank to just perma kite

Works like a charm

[keen kindle]

I hate how I knew

[sly merlin]

they will still die

sad bc last week i failed a 17aa by 30 seconds

[dense elbow]

Btw, this will help, when tank goes back in, remember to stun the flies

[sly merlin]

have been generally

sometimes u just can’t win

[olive wraith]

Is it the bleed that kills the tank

[dense elbow]

Cant win em all

[keen kindle]

at this point

[sly merlin]

usually yeah

[keen kindle]

I might just go farm hero crests

I genuinely might craft a neck and gloves just to outgrow hero

[dense elbow]

Dont underestimate the dam of enraged flies tho

[sly merlin]

i have crafted neck

[keen kindle]

It was so nice to be a rogue and dispell that shit

[dense elbow]

Rogue tech for shroud skip at the end

[keen kindle]

That too

When people do it right

[sick badger]

Hey team, coming back to fury after a very long time, seemes like the Wowhead tells me not to use whirlwind, tho specced into it as 4 attacks will cleave ? are you guys only using thunderclap ?

[spark coral]

Yes

[compact knot]

use tclap if your thane, use whirlwind if your slayer

dont recommend playing slayer on anything aoe rn though

[sick badger]

and when leveling use both ?

[compact knot]

use whirlwind while lvling cause you dont have hero talents unlocked

[sick badger]

Yea, cool, thanks m8 ❤️

[compact knot]

when you get these 2 hero talents

you start using tclap though instead of whirlwind

(im slayer in this picture just ignore it)

as max level its very easy to remember though

if you are thane = use tclap
if you are slayer = use whirlwind

[sick badger]

thanks buddy, really appriciate this 🙂

[compact knot]

np

[inland coral]

I’ve only had one toon, a fury warrior, for my entire wow career

This tier finally pushed me over the edge to roll a mage to stay useful and competitive in raid

Couldn’t take 90+ parsing and falling short of one button roto fotms.

[frank dawn]

totally gonna post tuning notes for tomorrow here in a few hours

and fury will totally be on that list

and fury will totally have buffs

[olive wraith]

What’s the betting market

1. aura buff
   2)reasonable buff to st/rb
   3)no changes

[languid gate]

guys isn't that a little over dramatic fury is not garbage or anything we're solidly middle of the road

[inland coral]

We got nerfed last time for no reason so my money on 3

[hushed ocean]

3% aura buff, i bet it

[olive wraith]

For raid? Nah

[modest condor]

dont worry guys the 0.5 changes are just rebalancing damage profiles, tuning will come after

[inland coral]

We’re quite literally bottom 3 for raid

[sullen dove]

just about the worst possible spec in raid yeah

low mid in m+ but playable

[languid gate]

we've had worse

[sullen dove]

doubt

[inland coral]

My love and passion is fury warrior. It pains me. Still maining fury for m+

[compact knot]

guys i found technology that makes fury warrior crazy

no joke