#fury

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vestal root
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might be right

sudden pier
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what are thunderclap procs

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Like when it glows?

olive wraith
olive wraith
sudden pier
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oh okay

oak crest
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yeah thunderblast

sudden pier
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Ima be real with yall ima ele main. Im jsut here cause my boyz doesnt like to ask things lol

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Im trying to help him

olive wraith
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In aoe you probably won’t be hitting bb very often

uneven path
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I think wowhead used to have if it was ppm

olive wraith
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You’ll have a lot of rage gen so it’s basically tc>tamp>tc>ramp

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If you ever have less that 100 rage then you can bb

uneven path
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@vestal root Do you have your dmg breakdown ?

sudden pier
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Thank you all for the help!

vestal root
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i reset them now im in raid already ill tell u later if i remember

sudden pier
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would yall say fury does good boss ST dmg in m+ while in M+ AOE talents?

smoky vale
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cluegi

uneven path
smoky vale
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its good but in some cases worse than arms

vestal root
spare flame
undone flower
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Fury lose nothing to be in AoE talent and it’s st is doggo

clever iron
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start of a pull in mythic raid when every one bursts and bl its just painfull watchin fury beein bottom of the list

abstract tulip
vestal root
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short sample

abstract tulip
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race changing to panda is a bigger dps increase than grinding voidclaw

undone flower
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Voidclaw is free

abstract tulip
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more than 30 seat 10+ runs

astral ice
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@fitchy you will get from vault mythic ones

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trust

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let me know

frozen scarab
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if im not attacking a mob what are other reasons for me randomly getting aggro

uneven path
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@vestal root Lura dead time to prog the Dragoons

sullen dove
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some mobs could also be like social aggroed by a tank and pull off a mob next to it being pulled but psure it technically has "0 threat" on tank still so maybe it just decides to hit whoevers nearby

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but hopefully in general tanks aoe every pack they run through/past where you have to follow behind, but if its like pulling multiple packs in a ring around the group to 1 location then yea 90% of those mobs prolly got 0 aggro and should wait a few sec and especially not be next to em

muted tulip
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pain and gain heal aggro maybe

sullen dove
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yea any kind of healing is also worth some aggro

frozen scarab
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it was like 2/3 packs didnt even feel like a lot

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just feels like it happens so often

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i just wanna know how to prevent it from happening xd

sullen dove
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yea idk ideally tank throws down like a thunderclap or equivalent spell on every pack he pulls

mossy fox
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any leech

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will do it

sullen dove
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but in general just dont be next to mobs and dont hit any of them that havent been fully like.. "gotten" yet by the tank

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yea leech makes sense too

frozen scarab
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i'll try standing very very very far away then...

sullen dove
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i mean just like idk 5-10 yards prolly fine

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enough time to notice if they go on you and you can run

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just not being like in the direct middle of an un aggro'd pack to be safe

uneven path
vestal root
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i mean lura dying

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i assume not a pug

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because pugs are clueless on that fight

fleet yarrow
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I can maybe actually burst now

uneven path
vestal root
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crazy

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im jealous

last fern
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So for fury its not bis to have 2 m track weapons ?

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You want a crafted one the whole patch ?

uneven path
odd crater
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Finally

uneven path
remote bobcat
abstract tulip
uneven path
odd crater
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Now to try 8 challenge ritual site

spare flame
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and then go 2x arcanoweave lining embellish

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methinks

vast gorge
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@odd crater i did it solo before I knew you could group for it

frozen scarab
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theres an item that allows u to brez right

graceful mural
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Engineering only

lime vortex
lime vortex
odd crater
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Lewl yeah 8 challenge is ez solo

runic violet
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good god my dps sucks balls

spare flame
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man this first windrunner spire pack sure fucks

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jesus

spark coral
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how you guys finding getting invited to 16 keys goes?

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lots of waiting in the queue boss?

runic violet
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people invite a warrior to 16 keys?

spare flame
spark coral
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good call

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probably get this 12 from the start of the week up there faster than getting in

undone flower
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16s was the easiest to get invites but i did few weeks ago

runic violet
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Just got 3k... I think I'm gonna be done with this after all 13s.

undone flower
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#fury message
here someone complained and I didn’t really understand

lime vortex
spark coral
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yeah im seeing a lot of devourer aug lock combos

regal marten
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Is Slayer finally better than Thane?

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With a good tank I feel it's more consistent

olive wraith
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No

wise wren
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wowhead still says mountain for most raid fights. Im doing child right now and it feels kinda bad

spare flame
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the thing is, fury is currently sucking hard in raid

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not much we can do

muted tulip
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invite 2 dks

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win

wise wren
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do you guys run arms in raid?

spare flame
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no cause i dislike arms

pastel geyser
stoic rampart
lime vortex
stoic rampart
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we’re moral support on every boss rn

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the skinniest least athletic spec in the game about to resign myself to the aug retirement home

random shadow
wise wren
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what are you guys doing overall dps against beloran heroic?

random shadow
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Even some 17s but I cba to pushers higher then 3450 since cool number

wise wren
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No lying

random shadow
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I think when I last placed fury I did 80-90k. And arms prog was 80k or so

unkempt oasis
random shadow
undone flower
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96 but overall dps doesn’t matter on beloren

random shadow
muted tulip
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bear does more damage to egg

undone flower
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Egg dmg is bis yep

wise wren
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I meant like in the fight not overall sorry

undone flower
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Well, in mythic , heroic it’s whatever

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Just 2 phase heroic okayge

muted tulip
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ppl only go for 1 phase tho

undone flower
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Rly ? What are they aftraid of ?

unkempt oasis
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everything

muted tulip
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their log

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lmfao

undone flower
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It’s the same as p1

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Repeated

modest condor
random shadow
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Is a shame I dont believe my guild can 1 phase the birdie smh

muted tulip
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they look egg damage and kick

undone flower
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Your guild is doggo bad if they tryhard 1 egg too much

random shadow
undone flower
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Yes I’m more pointing if you get pressured to do 1 egg while it is as free as 2

unkempt oasis
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They know who they are going to take their failure out on, and that is respectable to tell people upfront.

modest condor
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yeah

unkempt oasis
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wild lmao

frozen scarab
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got bis ring on 3k run peepoHappy

spare flame
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yeah i joined a 2/2/26 zerg bird group and it felt bad

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these ppl pulling 200k+ dps on egg phase

odd crater
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Lewl, tried a 13 skyreach. Monk pulled entire first platform up to stairs, died immediately. "Shit healer", leaves

abstract tulip
wise wren
spare flame
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bro i'm a wrecking throw lover ngl

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so good

abstract tulip
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what is the worst key tank and why is it druid

random shadow
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Druids fine

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Once they hsve aggro

hot shell
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Cause blooddks are binary

spare flame
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i havent done a single key with a veng DH so far

random shadow
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Dks are lame. Too dlow

random shadow
hot shell
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Monk > Druid > Warr > DH > Pal > Blooddk

abstract tulip
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IT WASNT ME

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fuck that bear blaming me

spare flame
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if you dont wait like 3-4 seconds

abstract tulip
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kept pulling threat

spare flame
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you'll get meleed

random shadow
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I play arms in keys now. I charge rend. Get linked

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Bonked*

spare flame
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but when they have incarn

random shadow
spare flame
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they do like dps-like dps

subtle lagoon
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You have to be afk if you're playing with a guardian druid\

random shadow
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Have to wait a whole 15 secs for the whole gsther

hot shell
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Either you charged something that wasnt tagged or the bear forgot he has a spammable aoe dmg off cooldown that he can press during gathering

abstract tulip
abstract tulip
spare flame
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in my experience, feels like prot paladins are the squishiest tank

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they just die

random shadow
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Prots fine

hot shell
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Dh cause they are really bad on aoe aggro for most pulls and pals are just... Well, they get slapped

random shadow
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Dh is a rubber band tho

abstract tulip
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only downside of bdk I encountered was slow

random shadow
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Monk. Druid pally then dh and warrior then dk since ei dont see warriors often since we'll im a warrior

abstract tulip
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but I saw fast af engi dks too

random shadow
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No one wants 2 warriors in a comp at higher keys

abstract tulip
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the warrior tanks I had on my shaman and dk where pretty good

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less damage but sturdy and fast and held threat easy

random shadow
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Dks are good but man they're slow and have like no aoe aggro

hot shell
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Dk aoe aggro is fine

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But even as a dps i get heart attacks and have a permanent state of "bro is gonna die"

random shadow
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Eh i learn to not worry about them

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They have insane healing

subtle lagoon
abstract tulip
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monk > warrior > dh > pala > dk > feral in my experience

random shadow
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Ah yes feral tank

abstract tulip
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okay guardian

hot shell
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Id take a feral over any of those

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Putting a guardian so low is crazy. Group Utility, insane self AND grouphealing, extremely high aoe dps

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Idk why u dont like them

random shadow
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They judt hsve no aggro

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Id it

abstract tulip
hot shell
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I had more aggro issues with monks than with druids

abstract tulip
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maybe I just had THAT guy

hot shell
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Also, 10 out of 10 dev dhs i invite are trash

spare flame
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bro rogues now do this smoke effect on the ground

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cant see shit

subtle lagoon
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outlaws? yeah I died from that once

somber elk
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You guys think we will ever get buffed this Patch ?

hot shell
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I dont even know what that does. Anyone can explain ?

abstract tulip
hardy cargo
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they made it to where only rogue can see it now thank god

spare flame
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i think blizzard might increase our auto attack dmg and call it a day

fleet yarrow
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Huh, just had a 4man join my key *all around 2700 270ish item level and its a +12 nexus

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and they just

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did nothing, and none could hit above 50k dmg

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I then think they are doing a bit throwing my key for funsies so I join in, and then they start flaming me

odd crater
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Bruh @fleet yarrow, as in the same one from Tryhard?

fleet yarrow
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ye

odd crater
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Suuup dude, it's Telosky 😛

fleet yarrow
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my guyy

odd crater
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Fury Warrior chad, hell yeah

fleet yarrow
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Idk

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Pugs have been quite good but this one was just a

odd crater
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Gotta push buttons harder bro

fleet yarrow
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head turner

odd crater
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I think I might have too much mastery

fleet yarrow
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kek

molten venture
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Bruh

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Maybe cut down on vers and get more mastery

odd crater
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Smrt

olive wraith
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Or

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Listen to sims

oak raven
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Midnight Falls HC - what spec do we run there? thane or slayer? or does it even matter?

wise wren
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warcraft logs seemed like mostly slayer

odd crater
olive wraith
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Then you’re okay

oak raven
regal marten
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Any1 can tell me how much Thane is better than Slayer rn with current changes? I feel whirlwind is ~= TC but now Reap of Storms is crazy better

uneven path
somber thicket
regal marten
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With the ocasinal rng that drops it to 150k

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ST is close to Thane, sometimes better from what I saw or I need more haste.

regal marten
somber thicket
regal marten
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Maybe Maisara and PoS no

undone flower
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Magister

regal marten
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I feel Magister's is a hit or miss for colossus

random shadow
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.5 has arms play mainly col now i believe

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Slayer isnt that strong anymore

somber thicket
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All depends or tank its like 100k to 200k overal just by pulls

regal marten
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Oh fair yea

undone flower
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If I’m at 100k it’s bc it’s skyreach and I died 1 or 2 times

regal marten
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🤣

random shadow
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Shouldnt ever be at 100k imo

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Should be easy to get 120k+

regal marten
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Stupid Skyreach

undone flower
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That’s why I said it’s skyreach overall if I died multiple times

somber thicket
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Had a tank that puled 3-4 mobs on a 12 and i was like i use my CD or what😂

undone flower
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Use your cd on cd

regal marten
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I usually stay afk when he does that

somber thicket
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Sometimes i wrecking throw aditional mobs

undone flower
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You blink : colossus smash is back up

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Or demolish

regal marten
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Bring Slayer back 😭

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What goes through their mind to buff Devourer and Unholy even more

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When Devourer is already 20k dps above 2nd highest

undone flower
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Idk company mind stuff I guess

random shadow
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Slayer arms would be sick if they reverted changes

undone flower
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Slayer arms is sick

random shadow
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Not with the cnages

regal marten
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Yea that was fun too

somber thicket
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Let then show the 1% mount if its worth pushing. Got all 16 but i think i 1% will be 20-21

undone flower
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Which ones ?

random shadow
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Pre .5 changes alayer was much better

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RtS on MS was great

undone flower
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It didn’t change gameplay at all ? Or I missed something

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Oh reap change is whatever

random shadow
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I mean it did effect ST bosses in keys and overall in aoe

regal marten
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For fury is kinda nice. Cause you can spam rampage more

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But I'd say make it 25% or per target

random shadow
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Tho i need a bigger sample size for arms sinc ei only did 2 key

random shadow
undone flower
worn yoke
random shadow
regal marten
random shadow
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Im used to doggo st as col in keys

muted tulip
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just invite 2 dk, nothing will matter

undone flower
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If it’s : bc it does more dmg, you can just say aura buff us daddy

worn yoke
# undone flower Why

because RTS is nice and being limited to proccing it in ONLY 3+ target situations is aids. Why NOT have RTS availability on single target? (outside of sudden death)

random shadow
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Tho ST bosses is 50/50

muted tulip
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invite better dks

random shadow
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But what if its not the DKs and im just a decent good player monkahmm

muted tulip
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well if you're on slayer fury like me they are just bad

worn yoke
undone flower
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For gameplay I say GG blizzard but please a small buff

muted tulip
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if a dk is below slayer fury they are terrible

undone flower
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I find all 4 war dps hero-spec to have very good gameplay

somber thicket
muted tulip
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its a shame we like melee dps and not ranged

vestal root
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pugging keys is torture at times i swear

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80k dps overall elemental shaman deadge

unkempt oasis
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Thats almost 81k

uneven path
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I am sure of it

vestal root
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i honestly dont care much about others as long we its a good run

earnest canyon
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whats his name

uneven path
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In that case fuck that guy

frozen scarab
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have u guys been trying slayer in raids this week

winter shoal
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He's not wrong tho

warm crag
vestal root
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gigachad

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bracers damaged from how much damage hes doing

uneven path
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I give up, I cant make the Rb build work on aoe

vestal root
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ofc

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i thought we made it clear its only st

uneven path
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But man slayer with 30% heast feels soooo smooth

vestal root
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haste good

uneven path
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This feels like correct stat distribution

olive wraith
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Nah

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Need more finesse

uneven path
abstract tulip
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damn

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I got voidclaw gauntlets

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on my dk

dim spindle
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A true warrior supremacist would never

abstract tulip
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imagine not multiclassing

dim spindle
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brb leveling my demo

dim spindle
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I don't see a DK option in my talents

hot shell
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Basically its like warrior but with more damage and range

abstract tulip
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its the part of the talent tree that deals st damage, has burst and gets invited into raids

dim spindle
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hmm

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good point

hot shell
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Now that you mention it... ive been the only warrior in pugs.. always. Right next to 4 dks

dim spindle
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Surely we will be tuned upwards soon

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Surely

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I was actually almost tied with a guildie UH as thane after I finally got a myth 2h. Was kinda pleased until I noticed they still have a heroic 2h 🙁

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Dark days, my brothers in fury. The 6 or 7 of you left

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Ouch

winter shoal
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Let he among us who has not run a dented sim cast the first stone

dim spindle
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*most of the gray parsers

hot shell
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Yeah, some are above me too.

dim spindle
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well now I get to be even more sad just before bedtime

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again

hot shell
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Ok holden

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Holdon

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Fixed.

dim spindle
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Caulfeld?

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Too late still sad

worn yoke
dim spindle
dim spindle
hot shell
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I didnt do anything

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If you want to feel good just play arms on vanguard okayge

dim spindle
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ehh

worn yoke
dim spindle
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I'm out of the raid game nowadays because work sucks. But yeah I have no issues with m+ so far, don't really plan on pushing bleeding edge keys or anything

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Maybe the filthy casuals were kinda right this whole time. Can't get too disappointed if you don't push top end content

worn yoke
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Fury single target increase and maybe a slight additional increase to slayer AOE (RTS damage? or RTS procrate?) and we're so fine. Slury has been coming home real strong in execute phases i've been finding.

hot shell
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Im not gonna burst your bubble again.
Anyways, fury is fine even for high keys. Just not a preferred class

dim spindle
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The most visible sad part about fury at all levels right now is moments like first pull in academy

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My epeen is very very smol at that moment

worn yoke
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take solace in beating the healer on DPS

fickle cedar
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i mean its not thaat horrible, you get to 700k~

worn yoke
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(buff odyns fury DOT by 300% would be salvation in times like this)

dim spindle
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I'm honestly not sure how high it spikes, too busy staring at the death ball I have to chase while avoiding circles of death. But by the time the pull is done it's definitely not 700k

worn yoke
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I've seen 560k as thane clappin and slappin as hard as i can. 700k fury is wild and i am jealous. (maybe aug diff)

dim spindle
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I'm pretty sure I'm sitting around ~350-400k once everything is dead. At most

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And I do know how to mash buttons

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But yeah aug would give that a significant boost, and I didn't have a myth 2h until literally yesterday. I'll have to look closer next time

rugged cedar
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's fine

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but on ST it's very bad

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so no reason to ever take it

abstract tulip
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its just bad compared to other dps

rugged cedar
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yes

dim spindle
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Not if the other dps is just bad

rugged cedar
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only play with terrible players and feel good about your class

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i like it

abstract tulip
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if youre topping meters your group is bad, if your group isnt bad you feel carried on your warrior

rugged cedar
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good strat

fickle cedar
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Farm a blast proc while the tank is packing, then stack on him, enrage pot reck blast avatar blast odyn etc, maybe i got lucky with procs

dim spindle
worn yoke
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it's actually good when you look at the overall picture. Fury ALWAYS has damage which is a great thing in 90% of the content. But the top 10% of content actually very strongly favours having an inconsistent damage profile with very high highs and low lows... (except some classes dont have the low lows either)

dim spindle
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If youj invite good players your ego is at risk. Can't have that

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Who cares if you don't time the key or down the raid boss, at least you're on top.

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huuuuffffs copium

rugged cedar
dim spindle
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failing that, zug harder

frozen scarab
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what does zug mean 😭

modest condor
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it's german for train

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as in those things riding on rails

abstract tulip
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I got ring on my seat reroll, again no gloves on my warrior

worn yoke
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anyone else land BIS both their first 2 rerolls this week, and then get the extra 2 only for them to both miss (but reduce loot pool i guess). Cant complain. Early and often friends.

compact knot
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rerolled 4 times across 3 characters have hit some bullshit on everything

compact knot
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i still got 4 more

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can hit bullshit 4 more times

hot shell
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How many alts do u have bruv

compact knot
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3 lvl 90 rn and im trying to make a ddh

sullen dove
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tryina make a dih

compact knot
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diddy dh

strong monolith
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No Eddy schizo posting today?

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I just got unbanned from discord too

olive wraith
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who is eddy

strong monolith
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Sorry. Bobby.

olive wraith
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oh my obsession

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ohhhh eddy cause his pfp

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i gotchu

sage ridge
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I used both of my voidcores day one back to back and only got one back

bronze merlin
toxic jewel
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ok hear me out

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bring back juggernaut from legion

lone sand
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I have a question. I'm playing Slayer right now. What's the appropriate second stat? cri/hatse/mastery/ver

worn yoke
olive wraith
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Or

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Sim yourself

lone sand
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When I didn't do anything The stat is 17/27/37/1, is it okay?

strong monolith
olive wraith
quiet helm
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Where can I get a warrior sound pack for Resonance?

odd crater
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Whoever said Myth Chimerus was easier than H-L'ura, it sure isn't feeling like it in this pug

hot shell
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Myth chinaerus is easier than heroic lura

odd crater
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I had to swap to Prot just to keep the group together

hot shell
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The issue wasnt the Boss then but your tank

frozen scarab
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i hate raiding

sage ridge
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Want to know how to make a free 10m at the start of an xpac

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Make a blacksmith and spec into crafting alloys and multicraft

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Then when you go afk just craft them and sell them

frozen scarab
sage ridge
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boost people

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in m+ or something

frozen scarab
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lolz

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went insane trying to get 3k myself idk if i can boost

rugged cedar
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tough to boost on a warrior imo

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bosses are the hard part of boosting

sage ridge
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Really depends on the key level

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Not sure what levels are in demand since I don't

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Probably a lot more demand now tho with the new achievements

lean heart
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YEHHHH!!!

olive wraith
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Seriously could probably time a 10 if you pull trash into bosses and have 1 competent dps

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Or, tank

sage ridge
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You could easily

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When I ran the 10s to use my voidcores in pit I had dps doing like 50k and 80k dps

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Still easily timed them

spark coral
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should just change fury warrior to leper warrior the way im getting shunned from thse keys:P and yes i know run my own key up.

olive wraith
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Not just a fury issue tbf

sage ridge
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Also an Arms issue

strong monolith
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Warriors who apply to keys like getting thier balls stepped on.

spark coral
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yeah im just bitching to vent, its just disheartening when i see a guy do 25% more dps than me in a key and i felt like im pumping

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damn survival hunter being so chadlike

sage ridge
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And it's a dev dh

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That clicks 3 buttons

frozen scarab
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do people not pug heroic raids

worn yoke
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I tried pugging a heroic raid on my alt. It was awful. Never again.

frozen scarab
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😭

hot shell
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They do. They just expect you to have cutting edge for All 3 raids and 90+ Median Performance

frozen scarab
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i still need 4 hero raids for my vault fuck

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i tried this morning and afternoon but legit no1 was running any

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all normals

earnest canyon
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heroic is srs business

hot shell
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U playing on NA or something

frozen scarab
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yeah

hot shell
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See, thats the problem

frozen scarab
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yeah idk any timeslot this shit looks ded

smoky vale
frozen scarab
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holy

hot shell
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I havent had any problems finding heroic raids. Not at 2am, not at 5am, not at 1pm

sage ridge
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It's because no one cares about any boss besides the first 2 and Chim for the most part

wary salmon
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People shit on aff lock but it PUMPS. I do more on my lock than war but get more invites on war

sage ridge
#

And you can pug them pretty easily on mythic

hot shell
#

He was asking for heroics tho, mythic pugs are... not recommendable

sage ridge
#

Just saying why it's hard to find them

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But pugging mythic is pretty easy

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But if you parse bad in heroic people might not invite

odd crater
#

28 wipes later and the group I was in was not able to kill M Chim

sage ridge
#

First time I did it in 7 pulls and 4 2nd time

odd crater
#

Wish I could find groups like that

sage ridge
#

What's your ilvl?

odd crater
#

Getting into groups hasn’t been an issue, since 280ilvl and 85 parsing

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It’s just everyone else is shit at mechanics

sage ridge
#

Yeah just bad luck then ig

odd crater
#

Like I even switched to Prot to just try and get the group over the line when tank left

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But then DPS was lacking

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Just no winning

sage ridge
#

I mean if you're above like 5 pulls you can usually tell if your group can kill

odd crater
#

Yeah. I stuck around too long because it looked like they were making progress

sudden tusk
smoky vale
stiff carbon
#

is the only way we can be close to top of the meters is if we pad like crazy?

stiff carbon
#

ok

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feels bad

odd crater
#

Alternatively just group with people worse than you. Ez way to top

thorn hearth
#

I personally know the group is bad when I'm top dps

light grotto
#

I'm trying to figure out hotkeys to make it a bit easier to learn thane. I was slayer all of last xpac. Would it be possible to have a macro to show WW when I am Slayer and Thunderclap when I'm Thane? Both apply improved WW and I keep hitting WW by accident instead of TC

smoky vale
#

#showtooltip
/cast [known:436707] Thunder Clap
/cast Whirlwind

thorn hearth
#

You can make a macro to cast both with clap having prio

covert blaze
thorn hearth
#

Yeah that

light grotto
#

Thank you

frozen scarab
spark coral
smoky vale
#

yeah its complete aids

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i legit just sit in lfg

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and i play 1 key a day

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so i play bad

smoky vale
olive wraith
inland flame
#

Yeah just move thunder clap to where you normally have ww love

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On your thane bars

sly merlin
#

18WS

lean heart
#

arms or fury for crown

light grotto
olive wraith
#

I’d suggest having separate bars, if you run a macro and press it while is still on cooldown you don’t really wanna be casting ww

ember narwhal
#

It shouldn't ever cast ww if done correctly

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Idk about the above one though

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But you can put both in the same line like
/Cast [known:Thunder Clap] Thunder Clap; Whirlwind

light grotto
#

If I press the macro while thunderclap is on cd it doesn't do anything (i.e., ww isn't going on cd).

ember narwhal
#

Will only ever cast one or the other
Unless you talent clap as slayer ig, but can use a thane talent instead of clap also or w/e

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Well, it will still only cast clap then, just it won't switch then obvs, but also like
Yeah

brittle crow
#

first key as resto shaman am i doing enough healer dps

compact knot
#

looks good

keen kindle
keen kindle
frozen scarab
#

idk gonna have to farm some ores and plants tmr

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make a quick 3k gold keks

brittle crow
#

thats it i think lol

keen kindle
#

Well

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Can't do shit about that

scarlet swift
#

Guys, do i buy AMD calls on the morning? Or Hood? I’m thinking Hood

remote bobcat
olive wraith
scarlet swift
night dune
#

Does slayer need to be built differently from MT to work or what

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I hit rock-bottom on charts trying it in ST or aoe compared to just going MT burst booboo blast on a given encounter

hybrid cargo
#

is there like a trick to boss damage on chimeras as fury... just got sat for low output on him and im like idk what to do im in first down group.... im hitting the buttons hard whenever im on him

sly merlin
#

log?

remote bobcat
sly merlin
#

2nd down is better for us too

hybrid cargo
#

also being told not to pad small adds, really only hitting em with OF when hitting the big guy

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but like we didnt really even get a full P1 in ppl kept dying

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its like irrealevant to me being sat i already have trinket but like if theres something i can be doing differently id like to know

smoky vale
#

@frozen scarab do you need 12 aa still

frozen scarab
#

nah i got it this morning

brave thorn
#

Now i can afford food buffs

frozen scarab
#

wicked

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i got omega shafted and lost 3 hours of my day

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and all my gold

hot shell
#

Why make money with BoE if you can just need everything and sell it

hybrid cargo
bleak topaz
fair widget
#

Look at dhs doing add damage and look at yourself

hybrid cargo
#

legit being told "dont hit the small guys"

fair widget
#

If dhs are the raid leads harem then its time to find a new raid lead

hybrid cargo
#

nah rl is tank lol

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and their complaint is boss dam. im like unless im missing something.... this is just the way it is man

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tbf i woulndt bring a warrior to this comp if i were in charge,

brave thorn
#

I wouldn’t bother with small adds if you have 2-3 devourers in ur raid. Not worth it just blast it on cd

sly merlin
#

it is kind of just the way it is

hybrid cargo
#

word yea i figured i just wanted a 2nd opinion

fair widget
#

Dhs do less on boss than you but pad 100x times as hard

hybrid cargo
#

atleast i dont have to sit in there while they face bash through intermission prog XD got mine ¯_(ツ)_/¯

fair widget
#

Just pad as hard as you can on the adds, whoever is telling you to not pad obviously cant read the logs

#

But this is a people issue not a rotation or talents issue

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And solving those usually is rather inconvenient and painful

hybrid cargo
#

i think hes just a bit oblivious to the state of war atm. oh well

fair widget
#

Im like 99% sure that the next time whoever it is that tells you not to pad tells you that and you say "it's passive" they wont be able to tell

hybrid cargo
#

so like. me specifically is not being told that i am padding, its just a geranl message to everyone

fair widget
#

But id be already in another guild based on that log and what youre telling here

sly merlin
#

yeah i mean if they want the spec with the lowest dmg to bosses this tier so far to not hit adds

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what can u do

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also m chim isn’t really a dps check at this point i think it’s only got 300m hp and even pugs i’ve been in r doing the tank suicide to burn boss now

hybrid cargo
#

yea idk i killed it in a pug a week ago

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theyre in overtime anyway. i get to go snooze XD

light grotto
# olive wraith In thane it will cast ww wouldn’t it? (Clap on cd)

It didn't cast ww at all. I think it's the [known] tag. If thunderclap is known then it remains thunderclap even when thunderclap is on cd. If the macro had triggered ww then the gcd would've been triggered, but that did not happen. Without the [known] tag it would've likely cast ww and the gcd would've been triggered. I've logged for the night at this point, so I can't check right now to see what happens if the [known] tag is removed.

olive wraith
light grotto
# olive wraith Just figured as thane since you know both spells the macro would be able to cast...

Gotcha. I see what you're saying. The way I see it behaving in game is that I know thunderclap as thane and I don't know it as slayer (the condition that it looks for), even if I know ww regardless. When that condition is met, Thunderclap being known, then the macro will use Thunderclap. If I don't know Thunderclap, then it turns into ww. I haven't done much with writing macros either and do make typos when I try. My theories are based on what I know from learning programming languages in college and what I observe when I try things in game.

short pivot
#

Hi Guys
returning player from TWW
quick question as Fury Warrior MT
Do i need to keep stacking or prioritize berserk buff?
or just focused on Enrage

hybrid cargo
#

They way fury plays the only thing you really have to manage is not overcapping your rage everything else kinda sorts itself out

spice wind
hybrid cargo
#

If your playing MT make sure youre extending avatar as long as possible with clap charges

olive wraith
supple glen
#

do i somehow waste voidcores on alt if i also took vault coins but didnt get into 10s yet

somber elk
burnt oxide
supple glen
#

im 264 monk i have trouble getting into 7s kek

burnt oxide
#

Skill issue

supple glen
#

its true

burnt oxide
#

WW is not that hot rn

supple glen
#

but they dont know

burnt oxide
#

Or they see your name and cringe KEKW

supple glen
light grotto
# burnt oxide I just wonder why tho, it is a default thing of the ui <:monkahmm:13825906004396...

It’s easier to maintain one set of bars than multiple, especially for the same hero tree. I noticed when I started tanking less many years ago that I’d moved skills around as fury and forgot to update my prot hotbars. That was the start of me getting annoyed with multiple sets of hotbars. For example, I’ve had thunderclap in multiple positions as I figure out what works best for me as thane. I don’t want to have to go updating multiple sets of thane hotbars or have abilities in different positions as slayer than I do as thane.

It’s been very rare for me to have a situation where abilities are so drastically different between builds that they don’t fit on one set of hotbars. Maybe once on spriest back in the day. I always disable build specific hotbars because they’re such a pain. Macros work when there’s a conflict and it’s less work than maintaining multiple sets if hotbars.

languid willow
#

is there a good d stance addon out there?

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I just did my 18 WS with dstance on for 17 min

burnt oxide
burnt oxide
languid willow
#

th

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thx

rare flame
#

You’re a full grown man getting into a defensive stance. Revaluate your decisions

light grotto
burnt oxide
#

Your healer was not relaxed wokege

rare flame
#

Honestly fury is pretty tanky

languid willow
#

true and real

rare flame
#

Spell reflect is up permanently with constant dr

burnt oxide
#

Ye fury survives alot by existing

rare flame
#

And u get perpetual rush recharges

languid willow
#

eya but when you get hit with back to back glavies on MT

rare flame
#

Ive scarcely had to d stance, even in 16+ and up

languid willow
#

and you're butt ass naked

#

doesn't hurt

rare flame
#

As every class

languid willow
#

yea so just like make it hurt less idk

rare flame
#

Holy shit that runic glaive be bending me over something fierce

burnt oxide
#

Me taking stance mastery but rarely changinf

languid willow
#

put the dstance condom on

rare flame
#

Spell reflect should parry the glaive

languid willow
#

i wish

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and should parry the bosses glavie

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right after too

#

make us just dks

burnt oxide
#

How is a physical object flinged at you a spell monkahmm

languid willow
#

its runic

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its like

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magic blade

burnt oxide
#

It is a magic infused blade

#

Still a blade

#

Not a blade out of magic

west mango
#

taunting bosses and spell reflecting massive abilities

rare flame
burnt oxide
#

You could still on seat

west mango
#

I'll quietly shill shadowlands warrior

rare flame
#

On the bright side berserker rage is pretty good this season guys!!!

sadge

unreal onyx
signal falcon
#

MBG + Spear crit amp ❤️

#

When we were allowed to have some burst 💔

uneven path
#

Just needed RNG and arms conduit

river loom
#

for real we hit like 2 years old kid ?

#

can we close discord ?

#

Please ?

light tapir
#

Lets close it so they think we act like 2 year olds too KEKW

river loom
#

but.. bu... ret paladins did that

tiny seal
#

we dont matter

river loom
#

but DK works XD

dense elbow
clever iron
#

we deserve 2-3% nerf for this!

river loom
clever iron
#

😄

river loom
#

and then BANG

dense elbow
#

Cause ppl hate fun

smoky vale
#

i hate funky

uneven path
#

Fun = bad
Suffering = good

#

Fury warrior 101

wicked flicker
#

I got a 70 something parse for mythic vorasius while a paladin doing about 5k less than me got a gray parse, so either paladin is just amazing or warrior sucks

dense elbow
dense elbow
vestal root
#

Class shouldnt be so hard diffed by lower effort classes its a balance issue

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The fact that you can sweat your balls off and still be behind lock or devourer who are half afk is bad design

dense elbow
#

Nah, you can chose to pick up their design

#

Bad design would be if you had to play warrior over dev to MinMax dam, cause warrior had the harder gameplay

#

If both are equal, even if gameplay is different, players can at least chose their poison

vestal root
#

But they arent equal

#

And skill gameplay is also balancing act, sure prefering to play harder spec over easier is preference but fact is that raids and endgame content is designed in a way where you dont wanna focus on your class gameplay and more around the mechanics present

dense elbow
#

My point is that the argument about how hard it is to play is moot

Not that they should be equal

vestal root
#

Hard to play = subjective thing

dense elbow
#

Sure, but my point remains the same. Even if we argue not ideas but semantics

vestal root
#

But ceiling will be easier reached on easier classes, and they will be tuned better because blizzard wont have to dig into a class discord to figure out their balancing

dense elbow
#

So sounds like you argue for all to be easy, in the name of perfect balance monkahmm

#

I am out of time to bait tho, time to work. Hf catman

vestal root
#

No i argue that blizzard should reward more "difficult" specs

clever plover
#

As a warrior main, I’m saying I’m not playing this class anymore. I started playing two years ago, but all I’ve gotten every season and every patch is nerfs, while Devourer DH keeps getting buffs…

proven hornet
#

Close the channel deadge

river loom
#

ye close it

unreal onyx
heavy dock
#

fury is padding class so u gotta show add dmg too :D

unreal onyx
#

Adds r irrelevant atp

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And even to burst adds fury isnt the best

heavy dock
#

true but that wont stop fury being what it is

#

when are we getting rework like paladins did in dragonflight

unreal onyx
#

My guess is never, since every tweak you do to fury impacts the overall performance a lot

#

Aoe multiplier

river loom
lost saffron
compact siren
#

True

lost saffron
#

No fury no future

tiny seal
#

fury nerfs and economy crumbles

#

huge

tight roost
#

Whats all the dooming about?

burnt oxide
#

Standard procedure

heavy dock
#

what in the ai slop :D

native wadi
#

Welcone to the club brother

#

Wait till you are OP in HC dungs and get nerfed into D tier because of it

#

That was peak dooming

idle pond
#

Okay, quick question. Nothing to do with buffs/nerfs.
I just came back to wow, last time i played was legion. Rn im struggling hard with day to day performance. One day im having parses around 70-85. Another day like yesterday im around 40-50. I dont feel like im doing something different. Wasnt used to this in legion. Ik warrior has bugged and delayed animations, sound and dmg numbers, bit that shouldnt be the reason. Anyone else having same issues or maybe a solution? 😅

native wadi
#

If you wsnna parse

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Speacilly in mm

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You have to Pad adds

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And tell your dhs to afk

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If you are 281-283 and have problems in hc to do over 90

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Then is skill issue and maybe you can upload some logs

#

So we can ser

marble apex
#

hi guys! what SpellQueueWindow did you recommmend me, with 40ms - furywarr?

idle pond
#

Its not just about the logs and parse. For example AA first pull +14s. On good days doing peak 600k dps an end up at like 300-400. on a shit day, gameplay also feels sluggish bit still good ping i end up at 220k. Yee maybe it is a skillissue but maybe not, so i was asking if someone else having same issues day to day

blazing acorn
jovial dagger
#

more clappa , more unga bunga less overthinking ^^

undone flower
#

If tank moves randomly, it’s his fault but it’s not the point

shy knot
#

Is there even a boss now fury pumps over arms ?

#

Chimaerus?

vestal root
#

Ehhh

tiny seal
heavy dock
#

love how arms was basically unplayable then buffed to being insane while fury stayed the same

#

in fact it nearly ate a huge nerf lol

#

for no reason

#

good thing it was reverted

shy knot
#

“Insane”

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We middle bottom bro

#

Insane is devo, demo

supple glen
#

waiting for invites drives me insane

burnt oxide
supple glen
#

demoralized war

shy knot
#

Lmao

tired bane
burnt oxide
#

Someone reflected the demo shout back to us sadge

cobalt sapphire
vestal root
#

arms still jank

#

even though i rly like slayer arms

native wadi
#

I get beaten by monk and druids in bosses quite often as arms....

#

Still dont get how they do 65-70K while we struggle to keep 60 in pure single

#

How is that being insane

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Hahahaahahaha

heavy dock
native wadi
#

Ragebait

heavy dock
#

its not a single target spec

#

arms should not excel at single target ;D

#

its 2-3 target cleave spec and good in uncapped aoe

supple glen
#

so much less work than fury too

#

i dont mind arms st being bad when you have crazy aoe capabilities with the right comp. but fury has neither lol

heavy dock
#

i feel warrior is one of the few classes overall that has kept majority of its buttons

#

prot especially has prob some of the most buttons still

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out of any spec

supple glen
#

thaty why its bad, please try the reworked classes

heavy dock
#

meanwhile other classes press 3 buttons

supple glen
#

fury mostly presses 2-4 buttons too

hidden kite
#

how far is fury below arms in M+

supple glen
#

12

supple lotus
#

Far enough where you will spend significantly more time in que for push keys on fury

supple glen
#

not a lot on average but you can really funnel into arms and then you cant compete

#

did the community already pick that up tho?

lusty jungle
#

we just a couple of pimps no ho's

supple glen
#

or do they just see all warr specs as subpar. if you apply to a phys comps they prob know but the average group?

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most grps dont even have shamans

supple lotus
#

Phys comps are really rare though

#

At least around 18s

native wadi
golden mural
#

Do you think they will buff fury this week.

#

Praying for a blue post today

supple lotus
#

they won't

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they should

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but they won't

supple glen
#

unlikely

heavy dock
#

Buff fury? keks

#

Best they can do is a random nerf

supple glen
#

although, i dont think they wanted to nerf fury damage, just not have ramp/tclap spam the bis rota for aoe during cds.. and would have probably adjusted damage afterwards

heavy dock
#

Prob another buff to devourer while theyre at it

supple glen
#

heavy copium tho

lusty jungle
#

3% buff to rend damage

burnt oxide
#

They will increase the required targets for reap to 5 and increase the chance to 25, calling it a buff

golden mural
#

You think they are hesitant because they don’t wanna make us OP in AOE?

heavy dock
#

They dont even have the excuse that fury is one of the easiest specs anymore cuz all specs are super ez to play rn

golden mural
#

My copium is it’s getting a rework so they aren’t buffing it

supple glen
#

no they just wanted a better rotation than tclap,ramp,tclap,ramp,tclap,ramp,tclap,ramp,

heavy dock
#

Haha sure

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But most specs rotations look like that so whats the issue

supple glen
#

xd

#

fair

heavy dock
#

Maybe one extra button

supple glen
#

but its kinda bad design still

#

who knows what their prio is

heavy dock
#

Meh its a given with how they made our apex

supple glen
#

especially when you rotation outside cds is more complex

heavy dock
#

Thats the issue

#

I think its fine to have simpler rotation during cds

supple glen
#

if that wasnt the case they might not care

heavy dock
#

Have u seen enha sham rotation in cds? Lol

supple glen
#

becoming bongo cat sucks tho

heavy dock
#

1 button deadge

supple glen
#

nice

bitter palm
#

holy mods watching the channel???

heavy dock
#

Spam stormstrike

#

Maybe crashing thunder

supple glen
#

maybe theres a filter, i saw that crypto post a lot lately

heavy dock
#

Its the main scam currently

#

Well tbh its been for the past 2 years it feel like lol

burnt oxide
#

I hope for 100% live nude women to return

supple glen
#

this post with the 4 icons?

#

ye i prefer my bunny girls

heavy dock
burnt oxide
#

Make a bot that bans the user if he uploads a picture with the exact filenames they post with okayge

#

I doubt they switch them up

crystal pond
#

Guys, hear me out! We need to give slayer the Ancient AftershockAftershock from Shadowlands, CondemnCondemn with the tacking at least up to 15 stacks and rampage proc Reap The Storm fom 20 up to like 30 or 35%.. Whos with me?? Slayer coud be so much bether Pedro

supple glen
#

slayer lame

crystal pond
#

Slayer is fun... MT is just bether because of Avatar and the procs of BT..

supple glen
#

something like condemn would be cool actually

#

slayer is passive damage and bs is do nothing for a few sec

crystal pond
#

I would bring the Reap the storm proc from BT with a 20% chance in each target, (rolling 5 dice and if 1 procs it procs)

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as it is Reap the storm competes with Odyns fury in dmg most of the time

#

but Ancient aftershock would be nice to have a bit more cc as warrior, now that they dont get imune to cc, it satys on the floor giving mini stuns

#

i dont want it to be top dps, just make it viable

#

high haste high mastery and spin to win

supple glen
#

pressing something during bladestorm to extend the duration would be hot

#

but then its just old rushing jade wind lol

burnt oxide
#

Just call it ravager or smth

crystal pond
#

as it is if you loose uptime is really punishing in keeping dmg, but if you do it clean you end up with less 10 to 20% less then other classes playing mid and relaxing

supple glen
#

ppl want ravager at player i saw

burnt oxide
#

Did never really matter that nuch

#

Nice qol tho

supple glen
#

okay, you have to spam one button really fast during bs to extend it by 2s

#

gameplay 🔥

burnt oxide
#

Let us press whirlwind during bs

#

Gotta reap the storm while being the storm

crystal pond
#

MT is a way more slow and relaxed playstile, i like slayer cuz your always pressing something and with high haste is fun. pressing stuff during bladestorm is just dumb...

supple glen
crystal pond
#

WTF HAHAHAHA

burnt oxide
#

Mt is not slow

#

Not rn

supple glen
#

brotherman, theyre the same spec

crystal pond
#

i dont want to go back to shadowlands when you pressed bladestorm and then just spam 20 ww

supple glen
#

ww has another icon and gets a proc

crystal pond
#

and do double the dmg then everyone else

burnt oxide
#

You always press something, if not, problem is somewhere else

hardy cargo
#

mbg in slands owned

crystal pond
#

we would deal a shit tone of dmg but it was just, bladestorm with all cooldowns and spam ww because of bone grinder

#

with spear on the floor

bitter palm
#

didnt u hold spear for mbg

#

i dont remember

hardy cargo
#

when comparing that to how fury played outside of that and arms

#

it owned

crystal pond
#

In shadowlands i had a macro where i would place spear on me and activate Recklessness and with the legend it coud proc bladestorm or avatar, and you even had bladestorm who would do the same

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so if you were lucky you would proc bladestorm, then spam ww and bladestorm again and spam ww again

supple glen
#

getting some 2s bstorm procs would be something for slayer

crystal pond
#

that would be fun

#

but we would need to be abble to press rampage in the midle of it

burnt oxide
#

Tbh reap is just bs in disguise for one second

crystal pond
#

or you would be flooded with rage to spen

supple glen
#

but youd feel the bs

#

reap is legit just a passive

#

its just there on the meter

burnt oxide
#

Would bs be aswell if you could cast during it

supple glen
#

no im went away from such complex propositions

burnt oxide
#

*and jt being a proc

supple glen
#

just have bs fire randomly

#

i argue its different from passive reap

burnt oxide
#

Yes, make it impossible for me to move for a few seconds

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Randomly

crystal pond
#

yeah but in the begining was a nice average of procs when you coud cleave bt to proc it, then was just Dumb with the tier set, you would just spam raging blow to proc it, now it barely procs

burnt oxide
#

I gonna freaking die alot keks

supple glen
#

oh yeah i heard you cant cancel?!

hardy cargo
#

as slayer u cant xd

supple glen
#

kek

burnt oxide
#

Never tried tbh

#

It is very fast to beginn with

crystal pond
#

you can always move when using bladestorm or reap the storm

burnt oxide
#

But having it randomly would be a death sentence

supple glen
#

its just a bit more haptic feedback

burnt oxide
#

Yes move, but not charge or leap

crystal pond
#

ho

burnt oxide
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You can leap>bs but not bs>leap

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The good ol leap bs helicopter

crystal pond
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if we can use stormbold, why not also allow to use shockwave?

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stormbolt*

burnt oxide
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Stormbald

crystal pond
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that coud help with aggro

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xD

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i will do some paint foolishness of changes for the talent tree and then i present to you guys so you can laught, flame and also think about it

burnt oxide
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Dont forget the talent right in the middle

undone flower
burnt oxide
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Omw taking everything that includes raging blow peepodrive

tiny seal
real wedge
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I am also spam refreshing wowhead news

red berry
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don't worry they'll announce buffs for all of the classes they've neglected or fucked up

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like marksmen :)

merry lotus
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Yeah we’re missing our definitely happenings buffs and what not hopium

tiny seal
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next bluepost is gonna be a long scroll down to warrior node and reading a 2% rampage buff as compensation

real wedge
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No we will get another dev and dk buffs

crystal pond
fading sky
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Its an fix of talents

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That magically makes em ever bettrr

abstract tulip
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frost mage will get a buff

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you will see

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posted it here first

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trust my uncle works at blizzard

fading sky
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Where as when we get that, we get shafted

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And qol we get reduces dmg

vestal root
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arms isnt even acknowledged as bugged yet right?

real wedge
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Imagine they wanted to Nerf Thunder clap okayge

fading sky
bitter palm
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its just low on prio cause we lose way less

fading sky
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Tbh cant find it

turbid gate
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boyz should i go fury or arms for crown mythic?

undone flower
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Doesn’t really matter on that fight

fading sky
undone flower
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Both doggo on crown so play what you prefer

fading sky
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Ofc arms superior

undone flower
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Ofc fury superior

vestal root
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ofc (insert class here) superior

trail bane
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As arms on crown you can at least tell yourself you are being helpful by dealing big dam to the simulacrums in p3

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I am by no means a giga blaster as arms but i ended up being 5th in dmg in p3

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(dont look at dmg to bosses)

vestal root
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i do well on arms on crown

undone flower
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That’s the question we had

vestal root
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full ST and then SS for adds or anything else

undone flower
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Does simulacrum dmg reflect on boss in p3, like in heroic ?

trail bane
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I dont think it does

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Since its at 1/millions in hp with a huge barrier

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DPSing the barrier didnt affect boss hp in heroic either

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Maybe that one damage you deal to it after the barrier breaks is dealt to boss as well

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But our dmg to simulacrum looked like this in p3

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I dont think it actually matters, but its the only copium i could come up with

undone flower
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I have more warlocks and mm hunters

trail bane
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Before .5 the logs i looked at warriors didnt even hit the first and third adds in p3 because hunters just nuked them

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But since mm is kinda in the toilet right now we can fill the gap by doing 2 target cleave on the voidspawn + simulacrum

undone flower
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If they still are nuked / bc raid buff + ilvl, I prefer to stay on boss ngl

trail bane
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Yea

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My thought was basically that my single target isnt great so if i can do dmg to adds which im kinda good at then someone whos better att killing boss can kill boss

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And i think it might be beneficial for other specs to swap from adds to boss rather than an arms warrior doing it

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If you are overkilling the adds

undone flower
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That’s a good thought but is it really what is happening? Always need to check

trail bane
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We werent really overkilling our adds, they died roughly when they were supposed to

ebon arrow
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Fury feels kinda low mid in raids rn, feels like everyone else has way better burst windows

delicate rock
real wedge
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Ur are just less overall as DPS warrior in raids unless u Are on pad boss

delicate rock
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2 bosses were you can still pad 🔥

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no wonder blizz wont give us a buff

real wedge
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Since overall logs Is only thing they look at as it seems

delicate rock
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well overall we are bottom 7 and with lura logs in the future we go for bot 5

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i think they are not looking at anything atm

spare steppe
real wedge
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Than what? Arms ye
But chim Is Meaningless boss

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Just trinket farm