#fury
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Thunder blast
oh okay
yeah thunderblast
Ima be real with yall ima ele main. Im jsut here cause my boyz doesnt like to ask things lol
Im trying to help him
In aoe you probably won’t be hitting bb very often
You’ll have a lot of rage gen so it’s basically tc>tamp>tc>ramp
If you ever have less that 100 rage then you can bb
@vestal root Do you have your dmg breakdown ?
Thank you all for the help!
which spec what
i reset them now im in raid already ill tell u later if i remember
would yall say fury does good boss ST dmg in m+ while in M+ AOE talents?
cluegi
The MT
its good but in some cases worse than arms
this was short though
i wouldnt say fury does good ST while in ST talents
Fury lose nothing to be in AoE talent and it’s st is doggo
start of a pull in mythic raid when every one bursts and bl its just painfull watchin fury beein bottom of the list
voidclaw is only 0,4% ? and that's why I am in seat jail??
short sample
race changing to panda is a bigger dps increase than grinding voidclaw
Voidclaw is free
if im not attacking a mob what are other reasons for me randomly getting aggro
@vestal root Lura dead time to prog the Dragoons
battle shout maybe
some mobs could also be like social aggroed by a tank and pull off a mob next to it being pulled but psure it technically has "0 threat" on tank still so maybe it just decides to hit whoevers nearby
but hopefully in general tanks aoe every pack they run through/past where you have to follow behind, but if its like pulling multiple packs in a ring around the group to 1 location then yea 90% of those mobs prolly got 0 aggro and should wait a few sec and especially not be next to em
pain and gain heal aggro maybe
yea any kind of healing is also worth some aggro
it was like 2/3 packs didnt even feel like a lot
just feels like it happens so often
i just wanna know how to prevent it from happening xd
yea idk ideally tank throws down like a thunderclap or equivalent spell on every pack he pulls
but in general just dont be next to mobs and dont hit any of them that havent been fully like.. "gotten" yet by the tank
yea leech makes sense too
i'll try standing very very very far away then...
i mean just like idk 5-10 yards prolly fine
enough time to notice if they go on you and you can run
just not being like in the direct middle of an un aggro'd pack to be safe
aintnoway
Mythic dragoons are kinda shit fest
Guild kill
So for fury its not bis to have 2 m track weapons ?
You want a crafted one the whole patch ?
Well cost is having to prog M now 
Finally
cg
nice milestone, 3.2k next
nice man, pos 15 before skyreach 11 is crazy
Chad move
Now to try 8 challenge ritual site
im pretty sure you drop the crafted weapon for double myth weapons
and then go 2x arcanoweave lining embellish
methinks
@odd crater i did it solo before I knew you could group for it
theres an item that allows u to brez right
Engineering only
Dont think you do
8/9HC 3/9M all with pugs, I'm personally not even thinking about touching lura with pugs, it's cancer, unless I run into a guild pugging for a dps
GZ!
Lewl yeah 8 challenge is ez solo
good god my dps sucks balls
how you guys finding getting invited to 16 keys goes?
lots of waiting in the queue boss?
people invite a warrior to 16 keys?
push your own
good call
probably get this 12 from the start of the week up there faster than getting in
16s was the easiest to get invites but i did few weeks ago
Just got 3k... I think I'm gonna be done with this after all 13s.
#fury message
here someone complained and I didn’t really understand
Getting invites to pugs got harder in .5 cause a lot of hunters switched to survival and pugs tend to not run 3 melees, at least that's been my experience so far, that's for pugging 14s-15
yeah im seeing a lot of devourer aug lock combos
No
wowhead still says mountain for most raid fights. Im doing child right now and it feels kinda bad
do you guys run arms in raid?
no cause i dislike arms
Only for dragons and paladins.
devastating truth nuke. guild did h beloren last night and I was thinking about the Kurt Cobain express the whole time
I feel like moral support doing HC beloren 2/2/22 
we’re moral support on every boss rn
the skinniest least athletic spec in the game about to resign myself to the aug retirement home
I get invited
what are you guys doing overall dps against beloran heroic?
Even some 17s but I cba to pushers higher then 3450 since cool number
No lying
I think when I last placed fury I did 80-90k. And arms prog was 80k or so

Ye 94k was my latest fury damage
96 but overall dps doesn’t matter on beloren
Reasonably correct
bear does more damage to egg
Egg dmg is bis yep
I meant like in the fight not overall sorry
ppl only go for 1 phase tho
Rly ? What are they aftraid of ?
everything
so if someone is low dps they kick the warrior? 
Is a shame I dont believe my guild can 1 phase the birdie smh
they look egg damage and kick
Your guild is doggo bad if they tryhard 1 egg too much
Guild no where near try hard. They dont have the numbers for it 
Yes I’m more pointing if you get pressured to do 1 egg while it is as free as 2
I didn't ask, but I guess?
They know who they are going to take their failure out on, and that is respectable to tell people upfront.
yeah
wild lmao
got bis ring on 3k run 
yeah i joined a 2/2/26 zerg bird group and it felt bad
these ppl pulling 200k+ dps on egg phase
Lewl, tried a 13 skyreach. Monk pulled entire first platform up to stairs, died immediately. "Shit healer", leaves
youre just there for shouts anyway
That pull is Hella fun
I had this same thing happen but he got bopped by wind right when he got to the end and we all watched him go flying off the edge
what is the worst key tank and why is it druid
Cause blooddks are binary
i havent done a single key with a veng DH so far
Dks are lame. Too dlow
They're still good. Saw one tank 5 stacks of first pull in academy on a 15
Monk > Druid > Warr > DH > Pal > Blooddk
I KNEW IT
IT WASNT ME
fuck that bear blaming me
if you dont wait like 3-4 seconds
kept pulling threat
you'll get meleed
but when they have incarn
Shirs longer then 5 secs lol
they do like dps-like dps
You have to be afk if you're playing with a guardian druid\
Have to wait a whole 15 secs for the whole gsther
Either you charged something that wasnt tagged or the bear forgot he has a spammable aoe dmg off cooldown that he can press during gathering
as do palas, while holding threat
crazy take, why dh and pal so low?
Prots fine
Dh cause they are really bad on aoe aggro for most pulls and pals are just... Well, they get slapped
Dh is a rubber band tho
only downside of bdk I encountered was slow
Monk. Druid pally then dh and warrior then dk since ei dont see warriors often since we'll im a warrior
but I saw fast af engi dks too
No one wants 2 warriors in a comp at higher keys
the warrior tanks I had on my shaman and dk where pretty good
less damage but sturdy and fast and held threat easy
Dks are good but man they're slow and have like no aoe aggro
Dk aoe aggro is fine
But even as a dps i get heart attacks and have a permanent state of "bro is gonna die"
No one feels that way more than healers
monk > warrior > dh > pala > dk > feral in my experience
Ah yes feral tank
okay guardian
Id take a feral over any of those
Putting a guardian so low is crazy. Group Utility, insane self AND grouphealing, extremely high aoe dps
Idk why u dont like them
thats kinda huge for a tank
I had more aggro issues with monks than with druids
maybe I just had THAT guy
Also, 10 out of 10 dev dhs i invite are trash
outlaws? yeah I died from that once
You guys think we will ever get buffed this Patch ?
I dont even know what that does. Anyone can explain ?
nah you will have to be a decor duel main now
they made it to where only rogue can see it now thank god

i think blizzard might increase our auto attack dmg and call it a day
decrease
Huh, just had a 4man join my key *all around 2700 270ish item level and its a +12 nexus
and they just
did nothing, and none could hit above 50k dmg
I then think they are doing a bit throwing my key for funsies so I join in, and then they start flaming me
Bruh @fleet yarrow, as in the same one from Tryhard?
ye
Suuup dude, it's Telosky 😛
my guyy
Fury Warrior chad, hell yeah
Idk
Pugs have been quite good but this one was just a
Gotta push buttons harder bro
head turner
I think I might have too much mastery
kek
Smrt
Midnight Falls HC - what spec do we run there? thane or slayer? or does it even matter?
warcraft logs seemed like mostly slayer
That's how I got into this situation
Then you’re okay
noticed yeh, but it looks like it was only around 4-5k dps difference between thane and slayer
Any1 can tell me how much Thane is better than Slayer rn with current changes? I feel whirlwind is ~= TC but now Reap of Storms is crazy better
I tried slayer on a +14 and did 150k overal. So its playable and more funn to me
It's a bit rng. I feel I'm doing something wrong but I got a feeling you can maintain 250-300k per pack of mobs
With the ocasinal rng that drops it to 150k
ST is close to Thane, sometimes better from what I saw or I need more haste.
If this is true you can technically compete with colossus. I need more testing
No chance i suck at arms and easy did 170k overals
Maybe Maisara and PoS no
Magister
I feel Magister's is a hit or miss for colossus
All depends or tank its like 100k to 200k overal just by pulls
Oh fair yea
If I’m at 100k it’s bc it’s skyreach and I died 1 or 2 times
🤣
Stupid Skyreach
That’s why I said it’s skyreach overall if I died multiple times
Had a tank that puled 3-4 mobs on a 12 and i was like i use my CD or what😂
Use your cd on cd
I usually stay afk when he does that
Sometimes i wrecking throw aditional mobs
Bring Slayer back 😭
What goes through their mind to buff Devourer and Unholy even more
When Devourer is already 20k dps above 2nd highest
Idk company mind stuff I guess
Slayer arms would be sick if they reverted changes
Slayer arms is sick
Not with the cnages
Yea that was fun too
Let then show the 1% mount if its worth pushing. Got all 16 but i think i 1% will be 20-21
Which ones ?
It didn’t change gameplay at all ? Or I missed something
Oh reap change is whatever
I mean it did effect ST bosses in keys and overall in aoe
For fury is kinda nice. Cause you can spam rampage more
But I'd say make it 25% or per target
Tho i need a bigger sample size for arms sinc ei only did 2 key
Idk if yoy spam more. Its kinda the same amount since BT and BB just does lots of deeps
You don’t need reap to not be doggo in st
agree but give back RTS on mortal strike and bloodthirst as well as the cleave and IWW+Ramp changes
You're just him
I mean outside of Recklessness yea. But during you kinda spam rampage
Why
just invite 2 dk, nothing will matter
If it’s : bc it does more dmg, you can just say aura buff us daddy
because RTS is nice and being limited to proccing it in ONLY 3+ target situations is aids. Why NOT have RTS availability on single target? (outside of sudden death)
I've pumped more then majority of the dks I've played with so shrug
Tho ST bosses is 50/50
invite better dks
But what if its not the DKs and im just a decent good player 
well if you're on slayer fury like me they are just bad
slayer fury is pumping and is also supremely fun at the moment. Only falls behind MT on keys with larger longer pulls
For gameplay I say GG blizzard but please a small buff
if a dk is below slayer fury they are terrible
I find all 4 war dps hero-spec to have very good gameplay
If a warrior player would play Dk they would do more DPS and got the class nerfed😂
its a shame we like melee dps and not ranged
Thats almost 81k
Buddy did his best
I am sure of it
yknow what i wouldnt be even upset if halfway they didnt call for abandon
i honestly dont care much about others as long we its a good run
whats his name
Oh
In that case fuck that guy
have u guys been trying slayer in raids this week
He's not wrong tho
what do you think of the guy who posted a droptimizer sim with the dented bracers
I give up, I cant make the Rb build work on aoe
i had to try one last time
But man slayer with 30% heast feels soooo smooth
haste good
This feels like correct stat distribution
Fuck, completely forgot about armour pen
imagine not multiclassing
brb leveling my demo
What is this, D&D?
I don't see a DK option in my talents
Basically its like warrior but with more damage and range
its the part of the talent tree that deals st damage, has burst and gets invited into raids
Now that you mention it... ive been the only warrior in pugs.. always. Right next to 4 dks
Surely we will be tuned upwards soon
Surely
I was actually almost tied with a guildie UH as thane after I finally got a myth 2h. Was kinda pleased until I noticed they still have a heroic 2h 🙁
Dark days, my brothers in fury. The 6 or 7 of you left
Ouch
I'm unfamiliar with the source material so I will not comment
Let he among us who has not run a dented sim cast the first stone
*most of the gray parsers
revel in the cope, King.
I was but then Dracz had to hit me with the reality hammer
The best cope is I can still top meters in random weekly pugs. That's something... right?
ehh
same honestly fury aint that far behind anything in keys, but raid / ST performance is........ sadge.
I'm out of the raid game nowadays because work sucks. But yeah I have no issues with m+ so far, don't really plan on pushing bleeding edge keys or anything
Maybe the filthy casuals were kinda right this whole time. Can't get too disappointed if you don't push top end content
Fury single target increase and maybe a slight additional increase to slayer AOE (RTS damage? or RTS procrate?) and we're so fine. Slury has been coming home real strong in execute phases i've been finding.
Im not gonna burst your bubble again.
Anyways, fury is fine even for high keys. Just not a preferred class
The most visible sad part about fury at all levels right now is moments like first pull in academy
My epeen is very very smol at that moment
take solace in beating the healer on DPS
i mean its not thaat horrible, you get to 700k~
(buff odyns fury DOT by 300% would be salvation in times like this)
I'm honestly not sure how high it spikes, too busy staring at the death ball I have to chase while avoiding circles of death. But by the time the pull is done it's definitely not 700k
I've seen 560k as thane clappin and slappin as hard as i can. 700k fury is wild and i am jealous. (maybe aug diff)
I'm pretty sure I'm sitting around ~350-400k once everything is dead. At most
And I do know how to mash buttons
But yeah aug would give that a significant boost, and I didn't have a myth 2h until literally yesterday. I'll have to look closer next time
i think it needs better ST. it feels like middle of the pack to me on aoe and that
's fine
but on ST it's very bad
so no reason to ever take it
its just bad compared to other dps
yes
Not if the other dps is just bad
if youre topping meters your group is bad, if your group isnt bad you feel carried on your warrior
good strat
Farm a blast proc while the tank is packing, then stack on him, enrage pot reck blast avatar blast odyn etc, maybe i got lucky with procs
Pro strat for sure
it's actually good when you look at the overall picture. Fury ALWAYS has damage which is a great thing in 90% of the content. But the top 10% of content actually very strongly favours having an inconsistent damage profile with very high highs and low lows... (except some classes dont have the low lows either)
If youj invite good players your ego is at risk. Can't have that
Who cares if you don't time the key or down the raid boss, at least you're on top.
huuuuffffs copium
amen i like the way you think
no think only zug
failing that, zug harder
what does zug mean 😭
thanks for specifying
I got ring on my seat reroll, again no gloves on my warrior

anyone else land BIS both their first 2 rerolls this week, and then get the extra 2 only for them to both miss (but reduce loot pool i guess). Cant complain. Early and often friends.
rerolled 4 times across 3 characters have hit some bullshit on everything
How many alts do u have bruv
3 lvl 90 rn and im trying to make a ddh
tryina make a dih
diddy dh
who is eddy
I used both of my voidcores day one back to back and only got one back
I have a question. I'm playing Slayer right now. What's the appropriate second stat? cri/hatse/mastery/ver
No target %. Sim yourself
all stats are good
Prio haste / mastery equally at this stage. Crit is not as bad as it once felt, and vers is not that far behind mastery in terms of stat for stat gain that it feels bad (however if you have the option choose mastery)
When I didn't do anything The stat is 17/27/37/1, is it okay?
Huh
Oh are you a troll too since you enjoy playing the game?
I’m a troll cause I respond to people
Where can I get a warrior sound pack for Resonance?
Whoever said Myth Chimerus was easier than H-L'ura, it sure isn't feeling like it in this pug
Myth chinaerus is easier than heroic lura
I had to swap to Prot just to keep the group together
The issue wasnt the Boss then but your tank
i hate raiding
Want to know how to make a free 10m at the start of an xpac
Make a blacksmith and spec into crafting alloys and multicraft
Then when you go afk just craft them and sell them
that's racist
is there a method for now
Really depends on the key level
Not sure what levels are in demand since I don't
Probably a lot more demand now tho with the new achievements
YEHHHH!!!
Seriously could probably time a 10 if you pull trash into bosses and have 1 competent dps
Or, tank
You could easily
When I ran the 10s to use my voidcores in pit I had dps doing like 50k and 80k dps
Still easily timed them
should just change fury warrior to leper warrior the way im getting shunned from thse keys:P and yes i know run my own key up.
Not just a fury issue tbf
Also an Arms issue
Warriors who apply to keys like getting thier balls stepped on.
yeah im just bitching to vent, its just disheartening when i see a guy do 25% more dps than me in a key and i felt like im pumping
damn survival hunter being so chadlike
do people not pug heroic raids
I tried pugging a heroic raid on my alt. It was awful. Never again.
😭
They do. They just expect you to have cutting edge for All 3 raids and 90+ Median Performance
i still need 4 hero raids for my vault fuck
i tried this morning and afternoon but legit no1 was running any
all normals
heroic is srs business
U playing on NA or something
yeah
See, thats the problem
yeah idk any timeslot this shit looks ded
holy
I havent had any problems finding heroic raids. Not at 2am, not at 5am, not at 1pm
It's because no one cares about any boss besides the first 2 and Chim for the most part
People shit on aff lock but it PUMPS. I do more on my lock than war but get more invites on war
And you can pug them pretty easily on mythic
He was asking for heroics tho, mythic pugs are... not recommendable
Just saying why it's hard to find them
But pugging mythic is pretty easy
But if you parse bad in heroic people might not invite
28 wipes later and the group I was in was not able to kill M Chim
First time I did it in 7 pulls and 4 2nd time
Wish I could find groups like that
What's your ilvl?
Getting into groups hasn’t been an issue, since 280ilvl and 85 parsing
It’s just everyone else is shit at mechanics
Yeah just bad luck then ig
Like I even switched to Prot to just try and get the group over the line when tank left
But then DPS was lacking
Just no winning
I mean if you're above like 5 pulls you can usually tell if your group can kill
Yeah. I stuck around too long because it looked like they were making progress
yippie
@bitter palm
is the only way we can be close to top of the meters is if we pad like crazy?
Pretty much
Alternatively just group with people worse than you. Ez way to top
I personally know the group is bad when I'm top dps
I'm trying to figure out hotkeys to make it a bit easier to learn thane. I was slayer all of last xpac. Would it be possible to have a macro to show WW when I am Slayer and Thunderclap when I'm Thane? Both apply improved WW and I keep hitting WW by accident instead of TC
#showtooltip
/cast [known:436707] Thunder Clap
/cast Whirlwind
You can make a macro to cast both with clap having prio
big fan
Yeah that
Thank you
wdym pretty easy 😭
You gice me hope
yeah its complete aids
i legit just sit in lfg
and i play 1 key a day
so i play bad
:3
Do you not have different action bars for each spec?
uniroinclly did 1 key all day today at least i timed it ho
18WS
arms or fury for crown
I do not.
I’d suggest having separate bars, if you run a macro and press it while is still on cooldown you don’t really wanna be casting ww
It shouldn't ever cast ww if done correctly
Idk about the above one though
But you can put both in the same line like
/Cast [known:Thunder Clap] Thunder Clap; Whirlwind
If I press the macro while thunderclap is on cd it doesn't do anything (i.e., ww isn't going on cd).
Will only ever cast one or the other
Unless you talent clap as slayer ig, but can use a thane talent instead of clap also or w/e
Well, it will still only cast clap then, just it won't switch then obvs, but also like
Yeah
first key as resto shaman am i doing enough healer dps
looks good
Rich in crests, poor in gold
Did anyone die is the real question
our warlock got knocked off the map on boss
thats it i think lol
Guys, do i buy AMD calls on the morning? Or Hood? I’m thinking Hood
Whatever it is you do, never buy $FURY, $ARMS or $WARR
In thane it will cast ww wouldn’t it? (Clap on cd)
I don’t do penny stocks
Does slayer need to be built differently from MT to work or what
I hit rock-bottom on charts trying it in ST or aoe compared to just going MT burst booboo blast on a given encounter
is there like a trick to boss damage on chimeras as fury... just got sat for low output on him and im like idk what to do im in first down group.... im hitting the buttons hard whenever im on him
log?

2nd down is better for us too
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/m3aFAZTxc8gwNMhB?fight=33&type=damage-done bestish pull, the comp does not call for a warrior i will say theres like 5 dps that benefit from shout
also being told not to pad small adds, really only hitting em with OF when hitting the big guy
but like we didnt really even get a full P1 in ppl kept dying
its like irrealevant to me being sat i already have trinket but like if theres something i can be doing differently id like to know
@frozen scarab do you need 12 aa still
nah i got it this morning
Was at the same boat till yesterday, got a heroic lura neck some maniac offered 500k, Ez.
Now i can afford food buffs
anything popping out to ya?
Went only to Vorasius for the Heart and got it with a 45 roll lol
Gotta pad on the adds buddy
Look at dhs doing add damage and look at yourself
legit being told "dont hit the small guys"
If dhs are the raid leads harem then its time to find a new raid lead
nah rl is tank lol
and their complaint is boss dam. im like unless im missing something.... this is just the way it is man
tbf i woulndt bring a warrior to this comp if i were in charge,
I wouldn’t bother with small adds if you have 2-3 devourers in ur raid. Not worth it just blast it on cd
it is kind of just the way it is
word yea i figured i just wanted a 2nd opinion
Whoever is giving that complaint likes feet
Dhs do less on boss than you but pad 100x times as hard
atleast i dont have to sit in there while they face bash through intermission prog XD got mine ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Just pad as hard as you can on the adds, whoever is telling you to not pad obviously cant read the logs
But this is a people issue not a rotation or talents issue
And solving those usually is rather inconvenient and painful
i think hes just a bit oblivious to the state of war atm. oh well
Im like 99% sure that the next time whoever it is that tells you not to pad tells you that and you say "it's passive" they wont be able to tell
so like. me specifically is not being told that i am padding, its just a geranl message to everyone
But id be already in another guild based on that log and what youre telling here
yeah i mean if they want the spec with the lowest dmg to bosses this tier so far to not hit adds
what can u do
also m chim isn’t really a dps check at this point i think it’s only got 300m hp and even pugs i’ve been in r doing the tank suicide to burn boss now
yea idk i killed it in a pug a week ago
theyre in overtime anyway. i get to go snooze XD
It didn't cast ww at all. I think it's the [known] tag. If thunderclap is known then it remains thunderclap even when thunderclap is on cd. If the macro had triggered ww then the gcd would've been triggered, but that did not happen. Without the [known] tag it would've likely cast ww and the gcd would've been triggered. I've logged for the night at this point, so I can't check right now to see what happens if the [known] tag is removed.
Just figured as thane since you know both spells the macro would be able to cast both. I’m not a macro dude so it was more of an inquiry than anything
Gotcha. I see what you're saying. The way I see it behaving in game is that I know thunderclap as thane and I don't know it as slayer (the condition that it looks for), even if I know ww regardless. When that condition is met, Thunderclap being known, then the macro will use Thunderclap. If I don't know Thunderclap, then it turns into ww. I haven't done much with writing macros either and do make typos when I try. My theories are based on what I know from learning programming languages in college and what I observe when I try things in game.
Hi Guys
returning player from TWW
quick question as Fury Warrior MT
Do i need to keep stacking or prioritize berserk buff?
or just focused on Enrage
They way fury plays the only thing you really have to manage is not overcapping your rage everything else kinda sorts itself out
Just replace ww with tc on your bars! No need for a macro. Or do your bars not change depending on spec? No need to have ww on bars as thane.
If your playing MT make sure youre extending avatar as long as possible with clap charges
Original persons bars don’t change
do i somehow waste voidcores on alt if i also took vault coins but didnt get into 10s yet
just use them when youre doing 10s
I just wonder why tho, it is a default thing of the ui 
im 264 monk i have trouble getting into 7s kek
its true
WW is not that hot rn
but they dont know
Or they see your name and cringe 

It’s easier to maintain one set of bars than multiple, especially for the same hero tree. I noticed when I started tanking less many years ago that I’d moved skills around as fury and forgot to update my prot hotbars. That was the start of me getting annoyed with multiple sets of hotbars. For example, I’ve had thunderclap in multiple positions as I figure out what works best for me as thane. I don’t want to have to go updating multiple sets of thane hotbars or have abilities in different positions as slayer than I do as thane.
It’s been very rare for me to have a situation where abilities are so drastically different between builds that they don’t fit on one set of hotbars. Maybe once on spriest back in the day. I always disable build specific hotbars because they’re such a pain. Macros work when there’s a conflict and it’s less work than maintaining multiple sets if hotbars.
is there a good d stance addon out there?
I just did my 18 WS with dstance on for 17 min
I understand between fury, prot and arms but between slayer and thane it is so similar that i never saw that need
The baseline cdm has it included - addons using it can use jt. I personally track it with arcui
D stance is for beta soyboys who aren’t confident in their ability to survive
You’re a full grown man getting into a defensive stance. Revaluate your decisions
Me in a +4 "competitive"
Exactly. There’s no need for multiple sets of hotbars when the abilities all fit on one set of hotbars. There’s the occasional macro with talent swaps, but that’s about it.
Your healer was not relaxed 
Honestly fury is pretty tanky
true and real
Spell reflect is up permanently with constant dr
Ye fury survives alot by existing
And u get perpetual rush recharges
eya but when you get hit with back to back glavies on MT
Ive scarcely had to d stance, even in 16+ and up
Yeah but this just hurts so fucking bad
As every class
yea so just like make it hurt less idk
Holy shit that runic glaive be bending me over something fierce
Me taking stance mastery but rarely changinf
put the dstance condom on
How is a physical object flinged at you a spell 
I miss when spell reflect was amazing in shadowlands
taunting bosses and spell reflecting massive abilities
We dont talk about what we used to be in shadowlands on this chat
You could still on seat
I'll quietly shill shadowlands warrior
On the bright side berserker rage is pretty good this season guys!!!

Mbg my beloved
Just needed RNG and arms conduit
Lets close it so they think we act like 2 year olds too 
but.. bu... ret paladins did that
mm rework and dk bugs are more important
we dont matter
but DK works XD
Gotta look at overall, not boss dam 
We are mid, mid is fine, Fury never be more than fine
If we are, we get nerfed to the ground
we deserve 2-3% nerf for this!
7% - 10%
😄
but why cant we be legion fury warrior we do shit till execute phase ?
and then BANG
i hate funky
I got a 70 something parse for mythic vorasius while a paladin doing about 5k less than me got a gray parse, so either paladin is just amazing or warrior sucks

Grey is just the floor, just tells you that it is a fight that is easier for ret than warr to perform on
A warrior doing 50k low, 100k mid, 150k max. Will look worse than a pala doing 75k low, 125k mid, 150k top
Even if potential is the same
Class shouldnt be so hard diffed by lower effort classes its a balance issue
The fact that you can sweat your balls off and still be behind lock or devourer who are half afk is bad design
Nah, you can chose to pick up their design
Bad design would be if you had to play warrior over dev to MinMax dam, cause warrior had the harder gameplay

If both are equal, even if gameplay is different, players can at least chose their poison
But they arent equal
And skill gameplay is also balancing act, sure prefering to play harder spec over easier is preference but fact is that raids and endgame content is designed in a way where you dont wanna focus on your class gameplay and more around the mechanics present
My point is that the argument about how hard it is to play is moot
Not that they should be equal

Hard to play = subjective thing
Sure, but my point remains the same. Even if we argue not ideas but semantics
But ceiling will be easier reached on easier classes, and they will be tuned better because blizzard wont have to dig into a class discord to figure out their balancing
So sounds like you argue for all to be easy, in the name of perfect balance 
I am out of time to bait tho, time to work. Hf 
No i argue that blizzard should reward more "difficult" specs
As a warrior main, I’m saying I’m not playing this class anymore. I started playing two years ago, but all I’ve gotten every season and every patch is nerfs, while Devourer DH keeps getting buffs…
Close the channel 
ye close it
And even for that, arms is carried by paladins
shadow priest #1? ;o
fury is padding class so u gotta show add dmg too :D
true but that wont stop fury being what it is
when are we getting rework like paladins did in dragonflight
My guess is never, since every tweak you do to fury impacts the overall performance a lot
Aoe multiplier
DH and Drakie doin a lot more and faster
True
No fury no future
Whats all the dooming about?
Standard procedure
what in the ai slop :D
Welcone to the club brother
Wait till you are OP in HC dungs and get nerfed into D tier because of it
That was peak dooming
Okay, quick question. Nothing to do with buffs/nerfs.
I just came back to wow, last time i played was legion. Rn im struggling hard with day to day performance. One day im having parses around 70-85. Another day like yesterday im around 40-50. I dont feel like im doing something different. Wasnt used to this in legion. Ik warrior has bugged and delayed animations, sound and dmg numbers, bit that shouldnt be the reason. Anyone else having same issues or maybe a solution? 😅
If you wsnna parse
Speacilly in mm
You have to Pad adds
And tell your dhs to afk
If you are 281-283 and have problems in hc to do over 90
Then is skill issue and maybe you can upload some logs
So we can ser
hi guys! what SpellQueueWindow did you recommmend me, with 40ms - furywarr?
Its not just about the logs and parse. For example AA first pull +14s. On good days doing peak 600k dps an end up at like 300-400. on a shit day, gameplay also feels sluggish bit still good ping i end up at 220k. Yee maybe it is a skillissue but maybe not, so i was asking if someone else having same issues day to day
250 is ok, less is dangerous, may lose ur gcd
that 600k to 300-400k can be team comps , forgetting to press BT as much as u should , pressing too much RB , comparing yourself to others will just ruin your overall in general cos u will feel bad abt urself so dont do that
more clappa , more unga bunga less overthinking ^^
If you think you do the rotation, it’s position, like on first puddles if you separate yourself with the tank, eta gg
If tank moves randomly, it’s his fault but it’s not the point
Ehhh

love how arms was basically unplayable then buffed to being insane while fury stayed the same
in fact it nearly ate a huge nerf lol
for no reason
good thing it was reverted
waiting for invites drives me insane
Just call yourself demo war 
demoralized war
Lmao

Someone reflected the demo shout back to us 
you think arms was buffed to be insane? lol have you even played it? still mediocre at best
I get beaten by monk and druids in bosses quite often as arms....
Still dont get how they do 65-70K while we struggle to keep 60 in pure single
How is that being insane
Hahahaahahaha
compared to what it was when mdinight launch id say its a very big increase
Ragebait
its not a single target spec
arms should not excel at single target ;D
its 2-3 target cleave spec and good in uncapped aoe
just press fists of fury as monk, idk, dmg just happens i cant explain it
so much less work than fury too
i dont mind arms st being bad when you have crazy aoe capabilities with the right comp. but fury has neither lol
i feel warrior is one of the few classes overall that has kept majority of its buttons
prot especially has prob some of the most buttons still
out of any spec
thaty why its bad, please try the reworked classes
meanwhile other classes press 3 buttons
fury mostly presses 2-4 buttons too
how far is fury below arms in M+
12
Far enough where you will spend significantly more time in que for push keys on fury
not a lot on average but you can really funnel into arms and then you cant compete
did the community already pick that up tho?
we just a couple of pimps no ho's
or do they just see all warr specs as subpar. if you apply to a phys comps they prob know but the average group?
most grps dont even have shamans
No one said excel, but I sim 70K while my dk unholy 15ilvl less sims 100K
unlikely
although, i dont think they wanted to nerf fury damage, just not have ramp/tclap spam the bis rota for aoe during cds.. and would have probably adjusted damage afterwards
Prob another buff to devourer while theyre at it
heavy copium tho
3% buff to rend damage
They will increase the required targets for reap to 5 and increase the chance to 25, calling it a buff
You think they are hesitant because they don’t wanna make us OP in AOE?
They dont even have the excuse that fury is one of the easiest specs anymore cuz all specs are super ez to play rn
My copium is it’s getting a rework so they aren’t buffing it
no they just wanted a better rotation than tclap,ramp,tclap,ramp,tclap,ramp,tclap,ramp,
Maybe one extra button
Meh its a given with how they made our apex
especially when you rotation outside cds is more complex
if that wasnt the case they might not care
Have u seen enha sham rotation in cds? Lol
becoming bongo cat sucks tho
1 button 
nice
holy mods watching the channel???
maybe theres a filter, i saw that crypto post a lot lately
I hope for 100% live nude women to return
Yea i saw it so many times lol
Make a bot that bans the user if he uploads a picture with the exact filenames they post with 
I doubt they switch them up
Guys, hear me out! We need to give slayer the Ancient Aftershock
from Shadowlands, Condemn
with the tacking at least up to 15 stacks and rampage proc Reap The Storm fom 20 up to like 30 or 35%.. Whos with me?? Slayer coud be so much bether 
slayer lame
Slayer is fun... MT is just bether because of Avatar and the procs of BT..
something like condemn would be cool actually
slayer is passive damage and bs is do nothing for a few sec
I would bring the Reap the storm proc from BT with a 20% chance in each target, (rolling 5 dice and if 1 procs it procs)
as it is Reap the storm competes with Odyns fury in dmg most of the time
but Ancient aftershock would be nice to have a bit more cc as warrior, now that they dont get imune to cc, it satys on the floor giving mini stuns
i dont want it to be top dps, just make it viable
high haste high mastery and spin to win
pressing something during bladestorm to extend the duration would be hot
but then its just old rushing jade wind lol
Just call it ravager or smth
as it is if you loose uptime is really punishing in keeping dmg, but if you do it clean you end up with less 10 to 20% less then other classes playing mid and relaxing
ppl want ravager at player i saw
okay, you have to spam one button really fast during bs to extend it by 2s
gameplay 🔥
MT is a way more slow and relaxed playstile, i like slayer cuz your always pressing something and with high haste is fun. pressing stuff during bladestorm is just dumb...

WTF HAHAHAHA
brotherman, theyre the same spec
i dont want to go back to shadowlands when you pressed bladestorm and then just spam 20 ww
ww has another icon and gets a proc
and do double the dmg then everyone else
You always press something, if not, problem is somewhere else
mbg in slands owned
we would deal a shit tone of dmg but it was just, bladestorm with all cooldowns and spam ww because of bone grinder
with spear on the floor
In shadowlands i had a macro where i would place spear on me and activate Recklessness and with the legend it coud proc bladestorm or avatar, and you even had bladestorm who would do the same
so if you were lucky you would proc bladestorm, then spam ww and bladestorm again and spam ww again
getting some 2s bstorm procs would be something for slayer
that would be fun
but we would need to be abble to press rampage in the midle of it
Tbh reap is just bs in disguise for one second
or you would be flooded with rage to spen
Would bs be aswell if you could cast during it
no im went away from such complex propositions
*and jt being a proc
yeah but in the begining was a nice average of procs when you coud cleave bt to proc it, then was just Dumb with the tier set, you would just spam raging blow to proc it, now it barely procs
I gonna freaking die alot 
oh yeah i heard you cant cancel?!
as slayer u cant xd
kek
you can always move when using bladestorm or reap the storm
But having it randomly would be a death sentence
its just a bit more haptic feedback
Yes move, but not charge or leap
ho
Stormbald
that coud help with aggro
xD
i will do some paint foolishness of changes for the talent tree and then i present to you guys so you can laught, flame and also think about it

Think about a rotation then do the tree, if you really want to be in the shoes
Omw taking everything that includes raging blow 
yo its monday were missing some #updates-midnight posts 
don't worry they'll announce buffs for all of the classes they've neglected or fucked up
like marksmen :)
Yeah we’re missing our definitely happenings buffs and what not 
next bluepost is gonna be a long scroll down to warrior node and reading a 2% rampage buff as compensation
No we will get another dev and dk buffs
Im heading to work but i Will think about it. 
Its never a buff
Its an fix of talents
That magically makes em ever bettrr
frost mage will get a buff
you will see
posted it here first
trust my uncle works at blizzard
arms isnt even acknowledged as bugged yet right?
Imagine they wanted to Nerf Thunder clap 
it is
Not per bluepost
its just low on prio cause we lose way less
Tbh cant find it
boyz should i go fury or arms for crown mythic?
Doesn’t really matter on that fight
What do u prefer
Both doggo on crown so play what you prefer
Ofc arms superior
Ofc fury superior
ofc (insert class here) superior
As arms on crown you can at least tell yourself you are being helpful by dealing big dam to the simulacrums in p3
I am by no means a giga blaster as arms but i ended up being 5th in dmg in p3
(dont look at dmg to bosses)
i do well on arms on crown
That’s the question we had
full ST and then SS for adds or anything else
Does simulacrum dmg reflect on boss in p3, like in heroic ?
I dont think it does
Since its at 1/millions in hp with a huge barrier
DPSing the barrier didnt affect boss hp in heroic either
Maybe that one damage you deal to it after the barrier breaks is dealt to boss as well
But our dmg to simulacrum looked like this in p3
I dont think it actually matters, but its the only copium i could come up with
I have more warlocks and mm hunters
Before .5 the logs i looked at warriors didnt even hit the first and third adds in p3 because hunters just nuked them
But since mm is kinda in the toilet right now we can fill the gap by doing 2 target cleave on the voidspawn + simulacrum
If they still are nuked / bc raid buff + ilvl, I prefer to stay on boss ngl
Yea
My thought was basically that my single target isnt great so if i can do dmg to adds which im kinda good at then someone whos better att killing boss can kill boss
And i think it might be beneficial for other specs to swap from adds to boss rather than an arms warrior doing it
If you are overkilling the adds
That’s a good thought but is it really what is happening? Always need to check
We werent really overkilling our adds, they died roughly when they were supposed to
Fury feels kinda low mid in raids rn, feels like everyone else has way better burst windows
dont worry, you have less burst, less st dmg and less dmg overall!
Ur are just less overall as DPS warrior in raids unless u Are on pad boss
Since overall logs Is only thing they look at as it seems
well overall we are bottom 7 and with lura logs in the future we go for bot 5
i think they are not looking at anything atm
I think Chimaerus fury is better


