outlaw fucks
#fury
bitter palm
stiff maple
I mean you can say tgis for literally any comp/spec in the game
stiff maple
A physical based comp ALWAYS wants shaman anyways
olive wraith
In this tiny niche situation with warrior list it would be good
bitter palm
u will always see a rogue in phys
wide delta
Didn't they give condemn to hunters lmfao
jovial mauve
I mean you can say tgis for literally any comp/spec in the game
Sure, but I'm saying why not give warriors lust? You're saying why not give it to anyone as a counter part
stiff maple
Sure, but I'm saying why not give warriors lust? You're saying why not give it t...
Why not give ww lust? Why not give pally lust?
jovial mauve
A physical based comp ALWAYS wants shaman anyways
not true, Noxiv's comp doesnt' run sham and they're #1 phys comp no?
olive wraith
Why just give something for the hell of if it
jovial mauve
Why not give ww lust? Why not give pally lust?
idk they can make a case for it too?
pallid brook
warriors dont need lust tbh
bitter palm
not true, Noxiv's comp doesnt' run sham and they're #1 phys comp no?
idk monkseas had r1 maisara and some other r1 keys
jovial mauve
I'm saying it fits thematically with our shouts
wide delta
Why not give ww lust? Why not give pally lust?
I think theyre saying it makes more sense thematically
stiff maple
I dont think every class should have lust
olive wraith
I'm saying it fits thematically with our shouts
Lust fits thematically with any class
jovial mauve
ok, why not warrior
pallid brook
a banner system would be cool though
edgy widget
I think theyre saying it makes more sense thematically
anything can make sense thematically if you make a thematic argument for it
wide delta
Makes more sense than a hunter's pocket falcon
stiff maple
not true, Noxiv's comp doesnt' run sham and they're #1 phys comp no?
This group just plays whatever they want
Not necessarily full bis composition
jovial mauve
This group just plays whatever they want
They ran bear, rogue, fury, hunter, mist didn't they?
edgy widget
keep in mind that Bloodlust's alliance analogue is literally called Heroism, which is very easy to make Paladin-coded
stiff maple
Well that has lust
willow obsidian
Didn't they give condemn to hunters lmfao
Oh man I miss condemn.
stiff maple
I think warrior does have util when compared to other stuff now in midnight.
pallid brook
i want the abilites from shadowlands bk
willow obsidian
I wish piercing howl wasn’t randomly nerfed.
wide delta
keep in mind that Bloodlust's alliance analogue is literally called Heroism, whi...
Point taken and received, did little to erase my desire for a warhorn ability
stiff maple
I just dont think theres a case for warrior particularly to have lust, lots of stuff has lust now I think
olive wraith
Why not give warriors a bow spec
wide delta
Oh man I miss condemn.
Literal favorite part of SL
jovial mauve
yes, my point being why not? we scream at stuff, bloodlust is someone screaming really loud
lets go
olive wraith
yes, my point being why not? we scream at stuff, bloodlust is someone screaming ...
Warbows literally have “war” in them. We should’ve able to use it
edgy widget
but the more important part is that Warriors don't need lust, and it wouldn't do much for them either
what would happen is one of two things
- if Prot gets it, Prot 📈 and Arms/Fury 📉
- if Prot doesn't get it, Arms/Fury stay practically the same, since they're still competing with 4 other lust classes + drums
Instead what happens is a few weeks from now, after representation rates haven't changed one bit, Warriors start qqing about the next thing they "need"
The reality is only one thing really matters insofar as being invited to groups - damage
jovial mauve
Warbows literally have “war” in them. We should’ve able to use it
I think a bow warrior spec sounds cool
stiff maple
Because we dont need it, at a certain point you have to stop giving lust to everything. At that point just make drums the same effect as lust
wide delta
4th warrior spec is Gladiator, 5th warrior spec is ranger
6th warrior spec is brawler
jovial mauve
why don't we need it?
pallid brook
a warrior speck with bare knuckles would be cool
wide delta
Monk but with orange effects
stiff maple
What archi said summarises it better
olive wraith
Why can’t warriors have the monk phys debuff
olive wraith
Then you could run no monk phys comp
wide delta
Because we dont need it, at a certain point you have to stop giving lust to ever...
I would erase lust from hunters because I do not like the hunter in my guild he is rude
pallid brook
oly thing that i think would be cool for warriors is banners tbh
something like totems
stiff maple
But we have bshout and good stops in midnight, we are extremely tanky
wide delta
Banners 100%
stiff maple
Utility isnt what we are missing for invites or meta
pallid brook
banners would be fekin kewl
stiff maple
I would erase lust from hunters because I do not like the hunter in my guild he ...
Based
olive wraith
People overestimate how much utility means
wide delta
Warrior scream heal spec
Id actually learn how to heal
olive wraith
As if a mediocre damage with hella utility gets invites
pallid brook
warriors are some of the most invited in grps rn
jovial mauve
people save spots for lust regardless no?
pallid brook
i see them everywehre we have pretty heavy utility
vivid flame
Is it possible to use bladestorm in m+? As slayer or thane
pallid brook
i thankfully" dont struggle getting into keys atm
jovial mauve
lol so every lust class?
olive wraith
Is frost mage still giga
pallid brook
ye frost mae fuks
jovial mauve
what is not a 'good lust'
olive wraith
lol so every lust class?
What’s the other common denominator
Hint, they’re all tuned very high
stiff maple
what is not a 'good lust'
Mage
pallid brook
why are we pressed to having lust doe
jovial mauve
and the spot for lust would still exisit if a class wasnt tuned well
pallid brook
i dont want dat shi
jovial mauve
you would simply swap one out for another
stiff maple
Mage has lust, they are not getting invites
brittle crow
how come odyns is used after bladestorm in the opener?
stiff maple
Mage is a perfect example right now of lust will change absolutely nothing for you
pallid brook
legit everyone i know that has a lust class hates having it
olive wraith
Mage has lust, they are not getting invites
Real?
jovial mauve
Mage has lust, they are not getting invites
since when?
wide delta
Because mages are lame and use magic which is sad, pick up a sword
pallid brook
why get a mage when u can have a shammy with a better buff
thats why they get ignored
stiff maple
https://x.com/i/status/2046935175167136002 .1% break down from recent
X
wide delta
I adore a good shammy
sullen tendon
They should honestly just bring back skull banner and make it competitive with lust and maybe give it to o e other class for more representation. Put it on same sated cd as lust. Comps that want more crit take warriors comps that want more haste take lust.
jovial mauve
??? how are you saying mages aren't getting invites when they're #6?
olive wraith
Mage probably buffer for int buff if I had to guess
stiff maple
??? how are you saying mages aren't getting invites when they're #6?
For the 1% breakdown, not the .1%
olive wraith
Aug is already there
stiff maple
Warrior has better representation
And even for the 1% warrior is pretty close to mage
jovial mauve
Those are all comps that people are pushing in groups, not random keys people are pugging to get to that point
stiff maple
I have pugged to that point
wide delta
I dont know how people pug high keys man
stiff maple
If youre complaining about lower than that, its not a warrior issue
wide delta
Job application simulator
jovial mauve
What do you mean? It's literally just saying 'we should have lust so we get invited to more keys'
the counter is 'no'
stiff maple
What do you mean? It's literally just saying 'we should have lust so we get invi...
It wont get you invited to more keys
sullen tendon
im so tired of the m+ division of magic vs physical. I miss when you could just play with any spec and buffs were just bonuses and not requirements
stiff maple
Is my point
jovial mauve
it would though?
sullen tendon
Mystic touch and chaos brand are problems
olive wraith
It would get prot invites to more keys
stiff maple
it would though?
If you want to believe so 🙂
jovial mauve
I'm not applying to .1% keys, I'm applying to 5 keys at a time and hoping they don't need a lust spot filled
olive wraith
Mystic touch and chaos brand are problems
Disagree. It’s their buff
hardy roost
For those who have an mmo mouse. Do you keep main rotation abilities on keyboard or on the mouse? I feel like my thumb is getting worn out lol
sullen tendon
im finishing up 17s moving onto 18s and since i hit hte 15 tier I have rarely gotten into a group with anything other than phys comps
any group with devourer or mage is off limits
wide delta
My beloved g502
sullen tendon
they dont invite anyone whos not magic dam
jovial mauve
like if the argument is, 2 dps classes and a non-lust healer need a lust, warriors will not get invited
sullen tendon
last expac it was hte same but it was veng instead of dev
jovial mauve
it is only a net positive for the class to have lust
stiff maple
Its only a net positive for battleshoutvto become 20% ap
jovial mauve
that's a balancing issue, not a lust access
olive wraith
You’re so close
jovial mauve
lust doesnt make us stronger, it gets us access to a group need that we dont have
= more invites
hardy roost
My beloved g502
Main rotation on the mouse buttons?
olive wraith
You know what else gets us more invites
wide delta
No, 1-5 and shift 1-5 for rotation. All my oh shit buttons on my mouse
jovial mauve
if we have more damage, and the group needs a lust, we'd still be declined no?
wide delta
Might be a mutant idk
sullen tendon
battleshout is good for any melee or phys damage calss becuase it increases AP but unless you have a monk as well you arent as likely to get invited to anything because there are jsut more specs that do magic damage and there are a way higher population of mages and demon hunters than warriors and monks
olive wraith
Why are dks getting invites
sullen tendon
most groups run either mage or dh for hte past few expacs so we inherintly are less valued
stiff maple
if we have more damage, and the group needs a lust, we'd still be declined no?
Are you forgetting about the 4 other slots?
jovial mauve
Would a DK be invited if the group needed a lust?
wide delta
They'd already have a dk
stiff maple
What is your point then, that every class should have lust?
jovial mauve
Are you forgetting about the 4 other slots?
no? I'm saying I want to be included in the slot that uses lust
sullen tendon
peple argue that you dont need lust in your group and drums are fine but that is just flatout wrong. 99% of groups will never invite you if they need a lust class even if drums are an option
jovial mauve
Sure, why not. It's a requirement for M+ at this point as much as tanks/heals
stiff maple
I think you just want warrior to be overly strong
wide delta
Give lust to warrior, remove from hunters and mages because they dont need it and I dont like them
spare steppe
Phys comp is strong though
sullen tendon
the only time people invite is regularly is when we have a season such as TWW s3 where we do high damage
spare steppe
And warrior is a key part of it
olive wraith
peple argue that you dont need lust in your group and drums are fine but that is...
Ye they’d kick the lowest dps for a good lust class
sullen tendon
if we dont do that during a season people have 0 reason to invite us
stiff maple
Sure, why not. It's a requirement for M+ at this point as much as tanks/heals
Well fair enough then I guess. I dont think you should be saying warrior should get lust though. You should be saying you wish drums were buffed
sullen tendon
which is most seasons
jovial mauve
Well fair enough then I guess. I dont think you should be saying warrior should ...
Maybe if I didnt have to spend thousands of gold to keep them in supply?
olive wraith
Most season warriors are tuned around middle of the pack
sullen tendon
even if we do good damage in aseason you are always competing with other specs who are uncapped and can still do more damage with you
than you*
stiff maple
Warrior uncapped isnt really terrible now
olive wraith
Fury is uncapped
sullen tendon
its not even close the same level as truely uncapped specs
olive wraith
Because we are tuned lower
sullen tendon
feral druids and dev dh bursting for 1.5 mil on AA first pull while we do 500-600k
we are like bottom of the barel uncapped
stiff maple
its not even close the same level as truely uncapped specs
Thats just cus its not tuned amazingly, nkt because it isnt uncapped
Also idk if youre talking strictly fury, but colossus aoe is pretty strong
jovial mauve
what got uncapped?
sullen tendon
Thats just cus its not tuned amazingly, nkt because it isnt uncapped
yea exactly. So if we arnet tuned to do absurd damage we will never get invited over a class like feral who arguably fills hte smae role as fury
physicla damage dealer WITH a brez AND a group buff
stiff maple
Tclappington is uncapped
wide delta
The classes favored by the AI will naturally do more dps than those it scorns
sullen tendon
Tclappington is uncapped
ok bro go try to compete with any other spec in uncapped
jovial mauve
it's still 5 soft no?
sullen tendon
its not even out uncapped that lacks. Its out st and 5 target as well
we do grea ton 5 taget but we still get beat out alot evne though we are supposedly the kings of that
stiff maple
Yea I dont particularly disagree
olive wraith
Most aoe is soft capped is it not
stiff maple
Im just telling you our class can do uncapped aoe
olive wraith
That sounds wrong
brittle crow
jovial mauve
nah pop that shit
unkempt oasis
You'd drop so many casts of bladestorm since they drift
stiff maple
You are bein killed. Goodbye
olive wraith
Goodbye fellow 57
olive wraith
It’s not listed in the bottom that’s why
jovial mauve
he's wondering where BS is on that prio list outside cds
olive wraith
It’s probably considered a cooldown in this case
olive wraith
Y?
olive wraith
brittle crow
warrior main
strong monolith
Damn straight
stiff maple
I'm pretty sure you only bladestorm in cds but I havent played fury since w1
strong monolith
Proud of it
astral path
strong monolith
Pop reck cast BS
olive wraith
warrior main
Send on cooldown unless rek is close to being available I’m 90% sure
strong monolith
Fury can do less DPS as a tank and Id still play it
jovial mauve
we are ahead of bugged afli and udk we are crushing it
frozen scarab
😭
jovial mauve
its fine, vast majority of players cant play as well as those logs
radiant heron
Hi ¡ one question, Have you also noticed that the sound of Fury strikes being very weak (like the sound of the last hit from Rampage is missing), Bloodthirst sounding very faint, and it feels like we’re hitting enemies with limp noodles?
strong monolith
Yo what happened to UDK I thought they were nuts
jovial mauve
as long as you're competitive in your guild is all that matters for raid night
supple glen
Yo what happened to UDK I thought they were nuts
bugged to hell
they will be top melee again soon enough dw
strong monolith
Guess thats what happens when you feed the patch through AI
supple glen
blizzard said sorry, dont be mean
frozen scarab
Yo what happened to UDK I thought they were nuts
aflic and udk omega bugged
aflic still sniffing our asses tho
jovial mauve
turns out we are omega bugged too, we're doing 80% damage. Incoming mega bfufs
sullen tendon
starting to feel the fury life again. It was nice while it lasted getting invited to things. You cant get invited to 18 keys becuae you arent 3600 but you cant get 3600 without doing 18s. Love it
frozen scarab
if it makes u feel better i got declined for a +12 by a 2100
spare steppe
How would you know you got declined for a 2100?
astral path
starting to feel the fury life again. It was nice while it lasted getting invite...
what addon is this
compact knot
if it makes u feel better i got declined for a +12 by a 2100
u prob arent getting declined
frozen scarab
addon shows their io score
compact knot
there is just a sea of people signing up to 12s
they dont see you
im like 2.8k 283 ilvl signing up to 10s
jovial mauve
they probably need a lust Kappa
frozen scarab
idk man it showed declined in red letters
spare steppe
Literally 50+ every time
compact knot
still takes me awhile to get accepted into 10s
spare steppe
I’ve just accepted the prot life unless I run with guildies
sullen tendon
what addon is this
astral path
ty
spare steppe
I think the only tank that would get accepted less than dps is DH
sullen tendon
all/most of the groups in 17+ tier are Brew unholy dev and they wont accept anyone other than an aug
or ret pally if they cant find a dk
olive wraith
I rest my case
compact knot
all/most of the groups in 17+ tier are Brew unholy dev and they wont accept anyo...
i mean with resto druid or rsham being locked in
its like 50/50
you can slam a arms warrior into any group with a rsham and its very very very good
not the same for fury though
sullen tendon
I cant even get invited to a brew resto rogue hunter group because they are waiting for an arms warrior to que becuase it does uncapped damage
bitter palm
@covert blaze hello goat
sullen tendon
even the people with lower scores than me who happen to have an 18 wont invite me
bitter palm
time to get my ddh boosted
broken kiln
Hey, I might be a sillybilly but why dont we take enraged regen?
compact knot
i cant play my ret because i dont want to spend money to name change it
olive wraith
I cant even get invited to a brew resto rogue hunter group because they are wait...
Does more uncapped damage *
ftfy
compact knot
it does not have a great name LMFAO
pastel spoke
cant i remember correctly ? i am 90% sure they said a whirlwind that hits 3 or more targets triggers reap the storm did they wreck that or did i read incorrectly
bitter palm
i cant play my ret because i dont want to spend money to name change it
watching random videos and waiting for timewalking queu
cba leveling man
sullen tendon
Does more uncapped damage *
theres ia big difference between fury uncapped damage and real uncapped damage
bitter palm
i cant play my ret because i dont want to spend money to name change it
xaaxaxa
covert blaze
<@235857431492558848> hello goat
hello conus
sullen tendon
we are barely uncapped
olive wraith
theres ia big difference between fury uncapped damage and real uncapped damage
Because?
We are tuned lower
Hope this helps
broken kiln
Hey, I might be a sillybilly but why dont we take enraged regen?
is this just for people that have a set grp for running?
bitter palm
hello conus
zhaius does crusading strikes work with skyfury
covert blaze
joining the dark side i see
stiff maple
we are barely uncapped
Thats not how it works brother
jovial mauve
we are barely uncapped
we have 1 uncapped skill in each tree
bitter palm
it used to not work
sullen tendon
Hope this helps
youre really obsessed with this huh
broken kiln
? I asked once lmao
bitter palm
but in this timewalking dungeon i swear i noticed getting more hp
sullen tendon
? I asked once lmao
meant ot reply to the other guy
broken kiln
oh ok
olive wraith
youre really obsessed with this huh
With the truth? Ya
bitter palm
man arms should be like ret on god
compact knot
uncapped damage literally doesnt matter idk
bitter palm
wake of ashes is so juiced
broken kiln
but actually guys i am becoming obssessed with it. why dont we run regen
bitter palm
wish cs was just as juiced
stiff maple
You should always be running enraged regen in any real content
sullen tendon
uncapped damage literally doesnt matter idk
it matters whe nyou are trying to get invited ot anything
jovial mauve
but actually guys i am becoming obssessed with it. why dont we run regen
its in a weird talent tree spot
stiff maple
Its more dps to not run it
broken kiln
You should always be running enraged regen in any real content
guys say no take
stiff maple
guys say no take
Because its more dps to not run it, that is the optimal dps build
broken kiln
oh so guidewriters want me to DIE
smoky vale
You should always be running enraged regen in any real content
cluegi
olive wraith
it matters whe nyou are trying to get invited ot anything
Are you playing thane
sullen tendon
people take arms war right now for hte same reason they took arms war in s2 of tww becuase it does more uncapped damage and not awful ST damage which fury had over it before.
smoky vale
i never felt scared
broken kiln
what do i just press dstance instead
inner zinc
Do you guys think fury is likely to get buffs? Either slayer or thane
smoky vale
and reflect
stiff maple
You can take it for a defensive you aren't required to spec out of ER
smoky vale
and victory
jovial mauve
Do you guys think fury is likely to get buffs? Either slayer or thane
yes
broken kiln
what i drop for it, massacre?
smoky vale
yes
olive wraith
have you read the tooltip how it says 5 targets
It only does damage to 5 targets?
stiff maple
what do i just press dstance instead
Reflect for most things
olive wraith
TIL
stiff maple
Dstance is good too though yes
broken kiln
Reflect for most things
20% magic dr?
sullen tendon
if we had 8 target uncapped we would be in a more favorable situation
stiff maple
20% magic dr?
Yer
broken kiln
idk it gets sussy sometimes
sullen tendon
and we did
broken kiln
ty
covert blaze
zhaius does crusading strikes work with skyfury
yes
sullen tendon
TWW S1 is calling
broken kiln
and i used to complain that my mage had no defensives
stiff maple
If youre scared just run ER, its not gamebreaking or anything
bitter palm
wishing for shaman jail continues
molten plover
no class changes 🙁
sullen tendon
do we have 0 uncapped? no do we have severely limited uncapped? yes
most if not all other specs dont have the limitations we do
spare steppe
You should always be running enraged regen in any real content
Am I supposed to have it for raid
stiff maple
Uh
spare steppe
Cause I dropped that shit
sullen tendon
thunderclap is so strong right now becuase its the only spammable uncapped we have
spare steppe
ZUG ZUG I use defensive stance
broken kiln
but dstance make less damage :(
spare steppe
Dead is even less though
stiff maple
I more meant, if you are scared you can play ER. It doesn't make the game unplayable
jovial mauve
if you dont get hit you dont need dstance
broken kiln
thing hit all
stiff maple
but dstance make less damage :(
Dying is even less optimal for dps
broken kiln
healers fault if it hapens
spare steppe
I wish I could take stance mastery without losing javelineer
jovial mauve
thing hit all
tell your hpal to beacon you
spare steppe
Reduce the number of throughput talents pls
broken kiln
ok so i will skip ER, its never my fault
jovial mauve
ok so i will skip ER, its never my fault
now you're thinking
stiff maple
Beast mode
edgy widget
i never press bladestorm outside of cds, right?
- Carefully managing BS timing in and outside of Reck is a ~0.05% dps optimization
- Only using BS during Reck has better burst, higher priority damage, and is much easier to time
- Just using BS strictly on cooldown is only a ~0.25% loss in sustained combat, but realistically, most dungeons aren't sustaining the same number of targets the whole way through though either
jovial mauve
when I popped my cds in s1 TWW (rip heroic week incident) it was my healers fault when I pulled aggro from tank and died
compact knot
and i used to complain that my mage had no defensives
mage is in a much worse spot defensively, its like not close xdd
jovial mauve
now they have macros on me like good healers
broken kiln
mage is in a much worse spot defensively, its like not close xdd
i dont understand this lol
compact knot
i guess you know that though if you are playing it anyweays
compact knot
frost is fine sure
edgy widget
most dungeons have the greatest number of targets and the most dangerous ones (meaning you want to concentrate damage to get through the danger quicker) at the start of a pull, it's not consistent combat the way a sim is
brittle crow
- Carefully managing BS timing in and outside of Reck is a ~0.05% dps optimizati...
so carefully managing it isnt worth, using it on cd is a loss, and using it during reck only is a free middleground
sullen tendon
let me into your competetivo key come on
broken kiln
frost is fine sure
ohh the off meta specs are struggling ur saying
compact knot
well they are offmeta for a reason
broken kiln
:D\
compact knot
i think you can play arcane in m+ but it dies to a light breeze xdd
jovial mauve
if you turn off details you never struggle in keys
broken kiln
if you turn off details you never struggle in keys
wait this is tuff
but my parses tho
sullen tendon
if you turn off details you never struggle in keys
turnging off details doesnt get me invited ot groups or erase the tier lists and charts that people base their entire group making decisions on
edgy widget
so carefully managing it isnt worth, using it on cd is a loss, and using it duri...
pretty much; when the differences are this small, concentrating burst tends matter a lot more than hypothetical throughput in actual dungeons
broken kiln
I was alive the whole fight btw :)
compact knot
@bitter palm imma buy a lvl boost to 80, que with my ddh
jovial mauve
turnging off details doesnt get me invited ot groups or erase the tier lists and...
if you get invited its a divine miracle, if you get declined they're racist report them to blizzard
brittle crow
pretty much; when the differences are this small, concentrating burst tends matt...
what would "careful management" even entail?
compact knot
in like 10 mins or so
bitter palm
<@692035495718551564> imma buy a lvl boost to 80, que with my ddh
come eu then
xaaxxaax
bitter palm
ye XDD
compact knot
shucks
sullen tendon
when i complain to my guildies about not getting invited i call it anti-warrior discrimination.
compact knot
didnt even cross my mind
jovial mauve
when i complain to my guildies about not getting invited i call it anti-warrior ...
this is what I've been doing all expac
compact knot
🐐
smoky vale
what do you drop for stancemastery on fury
jovial mauve
I just do my own keys at this point or nothing at all
edgy widget
if you look at all three of them, the overall damage diff isn't that pronounced, but look at how much more BS during Reck peaks
sullen tendon
what do you drop for stancemastery on fury
your hopes and dreams
smoky vale
but its a bigger loss on fury than arms no?
brittle crow
if you look at all three of them, the overall damage diff isn't that pronounced,...
i meant what do u actually have to do to get that 0.05% increase
not like im gonna bother
broken kiln
oh also, am i trolling if i run slayer keys or is it close
brittle crow
but im curious what the optimization is
olive wraith
oh also, am i trolling if i run slayer keys or is it close
What level
broken kiln
What level
15
olive wraith
Not trolling
broken kiln
when is the trolling breakpoint
olive wraith
Maybe like 20
olive wraith
Idk
broken kiln
opinions differ
jovial mauve
depends on the route of the tank too no?
broken kiln
I just like BS :/
edgy widget
what do you drop for stancemastery on fury
Assuming you mean Slayer
- in single target dropping Barbaric basically free
- in multitarget dropping Crushing Force is ~0.5% but you also have to give up Javalineer's ranged interrupt. Giving up Barbaric is more like -1%, but you keep the throw
jovial mauve
thane is just much more consistent
broken kiln
spinny spin
olive wraith
Then play it
broken kiln
Then play it
I do :D
olive wraith
Isn’t that a common abbreviation
languid willow
fury feels good in seat
compact knot
rare assa rogue
jovial mauve
it could feel better
compact knot
spotted in the wild
compact knot
not that bad tbh
jovial mauve
what UI are you guys running, I've been going raw and not a fan
languid willow
random shadow
I keep my simple
edgy widget
i meant what do u actually have to do to get that 0.05% increase
basically just using Bladestorm when Reck has >30s on CD, which sounds simple enough, but the way variable timers works it means sometimes your BS is going to come up at the start of Reck, sometimes the middle, sometimes you'll be agonizing over getting the last SD proc right as Reck ends
languid willow
i used to have my bartender bars in the middle of my screen but i used cdm this season and i like it
teal granite
What is everyone using your bonus rolls on trying to get?
random shadow
Buttons on the bottom with the shape of mouse buttons since I use mmo mouse. Ww tracker and Tage bar eith number the my buffs tracker and thats it
jovial mauve
What is everyone using your bonus rolls on trying to get?
whirling voidcleaver and gaze
languid willow
Buttons on the bottom with the shape of mouse buttons since I use mmo mouse. Ww ...
thats how i would do it lmao my brain thinks the same way
sterile hearth
used a bonus roll on MT and gotmyth haste-mastery boots so I'm satisfied with that
brittle crow
basically just using Bladestorm when Reck has >30s on CD, which sounds simple en...
sounds like something thats easy enough on paper and gets fucked on as soon as any mechanic or walking between packs gets involved
random shadow
What is everyone using your bonus rolls on trying to get?
I used mine in dreamrift. Now I will full sending pit
teal granite
I used mine in dreamrift. Now I will full sending pit
Why pit?
random shadow
thats how i would do it lmao my brain thinks the same way
Your current ui says otherwise
edgy widget
sounds like something thats easy enough on paper and gets fucked on as soon as a...
yeah pretty much, because you know AM means that 30s on Reck isn't really 30s
languid willow
Your current ui says otherwise
yea but i dont use a mmo mouse 😛
random shadow
yea but i dont use a mmo mouse 😛
Its time to get one ez fix
thorny zenith
goddamn pug gods blessed me
brittle crow
yea but i dont use a mmo mouse 😛
theyre cheap get a scimitar
sterile hearth
Basilisk has treated me well
edgy widget
yeah pretty much, because you know AM means that 30s on Reck isn't *really* 30s
this is also one of those areas where I firmly believe that simplifying the rotation results in playing cleaner, which turns into its own kind of DPS increase because you're not spending as much brain power thinking about lining up timers instead of what's actually happening in the fight
brittle crow
do not give razer ur money 💔
random shadow
I had the mouse for ages and its served me well currently
spare steppe
this is also one of those areas where I firmly believe that simplifying the rota...
Does AM not overcomplicate rotations due to the variability?
edgy widget
Sure it can, which is why I said that not having to do mental math on whether two different forms of variable CDR will align or not simplifies things for you
you don't really need to worry about Reck timing alone - when it's up, you use it - that's pretty simple
but when you're trying to match that with Bladestorms alternative form of CDR, yeah that can get confusing in a hurry
brittle crow
Sure it can, which is why I said that not having to do mental math on whether tw...
what about taking opportunities when they come up? like if theres a nice fat stack of 5 orbs on salhadaar
that i gotta bs without waiting
edgy widget
that's a different situation because now you're talking about hitting multiple targets vs hitting one target
if Reck won't come up before those orbs are gone, yes it's worth much more to Bladestorm them (assuming they'll live long enough to take all the damage anyway)
Dragons would be a better example of this, but if Reck will be up by the next add spawn and you can put Bladestorm + Reck into them, then it's typically better to hold the reck for the bigger burst
edgy widget
what UI are you guys running, I've been going raw and not a fan
my own (also there's a #ui-addons-manager channel)
brittle crow
tbf dont u go thane for parsing dragons
edgy widget
you do for Saladbar as well, but that's not really the point
brittle crow
my own (also there's a <#365419450054344704> channel)
wheres da rest of it
also what helmet is that
edgy widget
hidden cause I don't need to see extraneous shit on my screen
brittle crow
and i thought i was doing good about having a minimal ui
uneven path
Tried RB build in m+.....
brittle crow
olive wraith
Tried RB build in m+.....
Fool
jovial mauve
as it should be
brittle crow
"rb build" u got punked wtf
uneven path
"rb build" u got punked wtf
Wanted to try and see
brittle crow
OH ok it shows up in combat
i thought u legit only had the action bar
but, this is somehow more disturbing
edgy widget
people love to overcomplicate UIs with shit they don't need to see
then wonder why they can't keep track of what's going on and make mistakes
brittle crow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1494180163615719626/1494539197485416599/i...
thats what im saying thats why i made mine like this
where do u look at ur defensives
and cc
unborn delta
people love to overcomplicate UIs with shit they don't need to see
My ui has my heartrate and the DOW + S&P and scrolling news text at the bottom
edgy widget
where do u look at ur defensives
in the picture
jovial mauve
My ui has my heartrate and the DOW + S&P and scrolling news text at the bottom
thank god you have a ticker, what if you need to sell
unkempt oasis
It is a tricky balance to get the right information and not have it be overwhelming.
brittle crow
chatgpt ass response
unkempt oasis
I am chatgpt
sterile hearth
How do I know if I'm playing well or if other people are just playing not-as-well? (MT +10 run)
spark coral
am i crazy or does wrecking throw not interupt the bat 2nd boss of seat
unborn delta
How do I know if I'm playing well or if other people are just playing not-as-wel...
didyoiutime this woah
unkempt oasis
32 minutes...
frank dawn
the ret is definitely not playing well, that's about all I can be sure of
sterile hearth
Other warrior was a decently geared colo arms
broken kiln
How do I know if I'm playing well or if other people are just playing not-as-wel...
Ilvl?
sterile hearth
274
broken kiln
The other players were really bad i fear
boreal aspen
does wrecking throw work with improved whirlwind?
spare steppe
No meters?
broken kiln
Combination of you doing well and others not
sterile hearth
I want to climb higher but LFG treats me like a leper with aids
jovial mauve
push your own keys
olive wraith
does wrecking throw work with improved whirlwind?
No
jovial mauve
go into mythic night with this bad boy
bitter palm
No meters?
i dont think he wants to look at meters
broken kiln
Pushing ones own key is the only way to succeed
broken kiln
You want to be the employer not the employee
sterile hearth
Yeah I'll likely go down that route.
spare steppe
i dont think he wants to look at meters
Thats why I always have mine on interrupts
civic hemlock
They didn't change anyything with rotation in the .05 patch, right?
unkempt oasis
2x as much rend
vivid flame
What is the use case for rampaging ruin?
olive wraith
They didn't change anyything with rotation in the .05 patch, right?
Correct
modest condor
What is the use case for rampaging ruin?
open world content or something
olive wraith
What is the use case for rampaging ruin?
Planned massive pulls. You use a cancel aura macro on st
vivid flame
I thought it was only in effect after you used whirlwind? Don’t you not press whirlwind in single target?
modest condor
you press thunderclap which applies whirlwind buff
but there's currently no competitive content where rampaging ruin is the correct choice so it's not a concern anyway
olive wraith
I thought it was only in effect after you used whirlwind? Don’t you not press wh...
Ww is a filler
Honestly better to ignore it
sullen tendon
i really wish they would finally seperate the 0.1% title by class
stiff maple
that talent was such a disappointment man lol
covert coyote
i really wish they would finally seperate the 0.1% title by class
the dream
sullen tendon
everyday I spend 4+ hours queing for dungeons and barely gainn any score now
tanks fall over or healer cant heal the bosses
and people rot
meanwhile aug dh dk is increasing the title cutoff every da
i spend 10x more time queing than I do actually playing hte game
spend 2 hours queing to get into an 18 and then the tank dies on first pull and everyone gg nts
plush maple
i spend 10x more time queing than I do actually playing hte game
The problem with M+ and why I hate it
Even M+ as a seperate game "Fellowship" has same problem
real cape
spend 2 hours queing to get into an 18 and then the tank dies on first pull and ...
kind of funny how you can just do this as tank
because until really high takes like 2 mins to find a group
plush maple
How the fuck do you fix this without M+ becoming a queue system (Which I think should be explored)
real cape
how do you make people play with each other
sullen tendon
kind of funny how you can just do this as tank
for real. They just are running around ripping keys and getting into a new one 2 minutes later
real cape
coordinating 3 man queues is rough is even worse
sullen tendon
tank shortage is becomeing even worse becuase peopel are tired of fotm rerollers being bad at tanking lol
real cape
does your group comp work are you same skill level are you compatible socially
wispy thistle
am i crazy or does wrecking throw not interupt the bat 2nd boss of seat
its not considered an interupt but a silence, If the mob is immune to silence it wont work
olive wraith
I think a Que system would make things more toxic than it already is
strong monolith
i spend 10x more time queing than I do actually playing hte game
Stop queuing then. My experience has gone up 10x by making my own groups
fringe vale
to get early rating just play prot
then make ur own keys
if you happen to have friends that play heal or tank
ure golden
if not, ure gonna wait a long time lf keys as dps
hybrid cargo
Stop queuing then. My experience has gone up 10x by making my own groups
Until you have a healer spike your key on the last boss.... like jfc how can you do a whole dungeon totally fin and just not do your job on the last boss
sullen tendon
Stop queuing then. My experience has gone up 10x by making my own groups
What level keys
tepid warren
hows fury doing atm good or is arms better
hybrid cargo
Fury is quite possibly the most undertuned spec in game atm
And I still flatten meta spec pugs lol
So take that for what its worth
olive wraith
hows fury doing atm good or is arms better
Arms is better. Fury is down bad in raid but okay in keys
olive wraith
Until you have a healer spike your key on the last boss.... like jfc how can you...
Literally anyone can kill a key
strong monolith
What level keys
12-14s
strong monolith
If i go higher I'd still make my own groups
sullen tendon
Good fuckin luck
Hope you like timing the 16 key you already have times to get a 17 then have the tank rip your key on pull and have to do the 16 again and repeat for 10 keys
This is why no one runs their own key
gloomy trench
yeah lol
strong monolith
Oh thats ok. Just how the cookie crumbles.
gloomy trench
im trying to do 17's 100's of apply's no invite
sullen tendon
Running your own key works when you can just brute force everything
sullen tendon
Go apply to 2500 groups and report back
random shadow
This is why no one runs their own key
But how would I apply to folks keys if they do their key
Dont*
random shadow
I think it depends
strong monolith
Shame they dont want me to shit on them in damage on thane
gloomy trench
im 3407 rn, i need AA 16 for resi, then do 17's, can't get an invite for my goddamn life holy, gonna make a group titled "AA Your key" atp
sullen tendon
If you are 100-150 score over the key you are trying to do yes you will get invited but that’s not going to happen in higher keys unless you are just fucking around
strong monolith
Well I just make my own keys. Always do.
sullen tendon
I’ve got all 17s timed except AA and I keep getting in tank rip groups or healer dies on 3rd boss groups
random shadow
Doing own keys gets annoying in higher keys tho
gloomy trench
any of you playing fury cus arms is bugged`?
random shadow
Trying to being key back up to 17 form 16s annoying
strong monolith
And if someone wants to be a dented moron it's just gg go next
sullen tendon
I play fury because I hate arms
strong monolith
I play fury because I hate arms
strong monolith
There is no other DPS spec than FURY
random shadow
In what sense
gloomy trench
bm hunter maybe kekw
sullen tendon
And if someone wants to be a dented moron it's just gg go next
This is the outlook of someone who hasn’t had to do any real work yet
strong monolith
I dont understand
random shadow
Fistinator id only 3100 he said
strong monolith
I just play the game
random shadow
He haven't had to deal with 3400. Or 16 keys and up yet
sullen tendon
You are optimistic because you are getting invited to low end keys that you are hundreds of io over for
gloomy trench
he's just trolling you, don't take it serious, it's just whatever
strong monolith
I make my own groups
sullen tendon
Yea
strong monolith
Always
sullen tendon
It’s sad
strong monolith
??
sullen tendon
It’s delusional
sullen tendon
It’s like seeing those Reddit posts about people proud of completing 3k finally after years
random shadow
I wanna get some 17s in for 3500 but I cba currently
gloomy trench
im re-rolling until my duo tank is playing again ig
random shadow
im re-rolling until my duo tank is playing again ig
Must be nice having a duo tank
random shadow
Better then not
strong monolith
You seem like the guy who would freak out over something that doesnt really matter.
Even when I get up there, we are not the same.
gloomy trench
ye for sure, makes life much easier when we play
low folio
wonder when they will fix this patch, my game has been fucked since tuesday
gloomy trench
wonder when arms is finally get fixed, cus fuck man
random shadow
I've been fine since Wed. Tuseday had mistakes
olive wraith
What’s bugged about arms
random shadow
The slam from fob or whatever its called isnt proccing deep wounds
low folio
im gettings 30 fps when flying around the zones now, which is very drastic drop in fps
random shadow
Check #updates-midnight
gloomy trench
yeah its deep wounds not applying from cleave crit ig
olive wraith
Rip
gloomy trench
someone asked bis if it was right that it was 5.5% aoe loss, and if i remember right, he said probably more
biz* sorry
random shadow
I was still pumping with the bug so its not to bad even with bug
gloomy trench
yeah well arms be pumpin in aoe regardless ig
but, don't want to play it when i know i could probably be worth more on fury when it's fucked
but noooo invites
gloomy trench
yeah big depresso
spark coral
im furioous
gloomy trench
don't want fury
gloomy trench
or idk, anyways i gotta feed my addiction, killing my lungs
vestal root
warrior rocks actually
gloomy trench
ofc, most fun class, just beautifull
random shadow
but, don't want to play it when i know i could probably be worth more on fury wh...
i dont understand this, whats the issue tho, you can still play arms perfectly fine
i mean i climbed from my 14s to resi 16s since reset with arms perfectly fine
gloomy trench
yeah but just feels terrible
strong monolith
fury lighten up!
For real
random shadow
the bug being fix doesnt change anything rotational wise tho
strong monolith
these wow players hate seeing other people having fun fuck em!
Youre a troll if you like playing the game!
random shadow
biz and folks still timing 20-21s
vestal root
ngl if we got buffed tmw guys it wouldnt matter we dont bring lust and you only get in for physical comps
its just how it is!
not to mention warriors got bad rep
gloomy trench
breh the issue is your losing a bunch of aoe and fury hasn't, that's pretty much it, when you aren't 0.1% of warriors right now, you probably won't pump as much. Also considering some of these guys play in coordinated groups and a lot of us don't
vestal root
arms, especially colossus, is unplayable if your tank isnt synced up
well thats too harsh
but really hard, and doesnt pump
fury can just wing it, doesnt care about pulls
woven valley
At least we don’t have “shut your class discord down” bad rep
gloomy trench
yeah true
vestal root
At least we don’t have “shut your class discord down” bad rep
we should, unironically
gloomy trench
holy shi
modest condor
arms does more damage than fury if your tank has their monitor on
random shadow
breh the issue is your losing a bunch of aoe and fury hasn't, that's pretty much...
still think its fine, its probably not as much aoe dps loss then just playing thane fury
vestal root
arms does more damage than fury if your tank has their monitor on
thats asking too much
gloomy trench
paladins are def something
random shadow
so idk what youre really on about
you can still out pump the other 2 dps in 16s with the bug
gloomy trench
yeah maybe
random shadow
probably would be a bigger aoe loss playing thane fury over col arms tbh
modest condor
the bug doesnt even affect aoe? it affects funnel
gloomy trench
don't think its much less overall
gloomy trench
yeah ig so
random shadow
from fob proc
vestal root
it affects 3+ target scenarios
modest condor
you're losing like a couple % prio target dps if you have 3+ targets
gloomy trench
yeah i heard about that, but i've also heard it was an aoe problem. But it's prob funnel
random shadow
its legit funnel
gloomy trench
or it is funnel, but isn't aoe also affected
fringe vale
or it is funnel, but isn't aoe also affected
the funnel aint funneling, its a funne-ral
modest condor
at most it would be a sweeped slam crit
gloomy trench
slam or heroic strike does aoe when sweeped no?
woven valley
I’m confused guys, do we funnel the ravager aoe? Or do we ravager the funnel?
vestal root
slam or heroic strike does aoe when sweeped no?
hs gets consumed on 3+ targets by cleave
gloomy trench
yeah ik
undone flower
It is capped funnel
random shadow
your thinking of the loss from funnel making you to play fury then the arms spec youve been enjoyed due to the bug is not that big imo
and its clear youre not enjoying fury as much as well
gloomy trench
yeah true, do we actually know the real numbers then?
random shadow
that small funnel/prio damage loss is not that big to affect you
espically if you dont do like 20s
fringe vale
what a rollercoaster has been this season so far
gloomy trench
yeah just starting on 17's soon if i can get invited
random shadow
bigger dps loss to switch to another spec you dont enjoy playing lol
muted tulip
funnel is from colossus passive
gloomy trench
sure yeah but i really thought it was worse than fury if don't play like a god
so ig mb for not knowing, even when i got told this was the case
anyway need to go out side now im dying
normal forge
how is fury compared to arms in pug groups? better or worse?
sullen tendon
If they made rend automatically apply like prot and fury I’d consider trying out arms again as off spec but it’s still bloated to shit with bleed maintenance and buff maintenance and 7 buttons for the aoe rotation. Just not appealing to play.
vestal root
how is fury compared to arms in pug groups? better or worse?
fury=arms slayer>>>>>colossus
sullen tendon
Slam is still a problem
Slam annoying as fuck
Slam and rend bog down arms for me
olive wraith
how is fury compared to arms in pug groups? better or worse?
Arms performs better. Fury does oka
random shadow
Col arms is pumping in keys rn in overall and st if funnel
normal forge
in pug groups it does better?
random shadow
I've been fine on col arms in pugs
normal forge
like without skyfury?
olive wraith
Pretty sure ya
random shadow
Its fine without. Very nice tho
woven valley
Fury just needs damage buff. Our single target is cheeks and our aoe isn’t op
random shadow
I've only met like 3 or 4 total shaman do
olive wraith
But realistically play what you want unless you’re going for title
craggy kraken
anyone know how to fix elvui to display rage numbers and not %?
my shits not working right
gloomy trench
try biz's new algeth'ar build for the st
normal forge
try biz's new algeth'ar build for the st
thats how i did 60k 🥲
normal forge
i think so? tbh i felt rage starved a lot on this boss
normal forge
no
gloomy trench
yeah, i also feel rage starved a lot in st
bitter palm
sim it
woven valley
Eyes is simming poorly for me. But yeah 👍 sim it as it’ll be different per person because of gear
gloomy trench
exactly
static bane
eyes sims at a 759dps increase in ST
earnest gate
is it wrong to craft two 285 weps for fury?
olive wraith
It’s kinda troll
gloomy trench
no idea, is arcanoweave prio for fury?
static bane
Do I have too much or not enough of any particular secondary stat?
olive wraith
Sims will tell you
static bane
how do I sim that
olive wraith
Droptimizer/top gear
last lichen
Just timed a 19 AA and got the old "play arms" treatment lol
Fury clearly has better aura so im neva doing that 😛
uneven path
Just timed a 19 AA and got the old "play arms" treatment lol
Can you shar your overall ?
static bane
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4W4vbiKSGk3Sotw78FTWee
whats this telling me I need in terms of secondary stats? More crit?
earnest gate
why play spec that has 1 weapon when you can play spec that has 2
unborn delta
kinda
serene socket
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4W4vbiKSGk3Sotw78FTWee
whats this tellin...
Seems like its saying you could use a bit of crit but probably just on one of your accessories. If you simmed all your gems they would probaly come up as crit right now
unborn delta
they need the 2nd ring from xenas
static bane
and swap out my crafted haste mastery ring or swap out the omission of light?
static bane
set bonus cant possibly be better than just recrafting my ring to crit haste
or crit mast
undone flower
You can droptimizer dungeons or topgear -> give you the item
static bane
simming it now
undone flower
And your sim of all raids just tells you need ilvl on bunch of pieces, sim same ilvl if you are looking at things you can farm
static bane
ring from nexus gives a 0.4% dps increase so ill go ahead and recraft my ring to crit mastery and then ill farm the neck from pit
wise mulch
ez
undone flower
ring from nexus gives a 0.4% dps increase so ill go ahead and recraft my ring to...
Get one thing, then redo a droptimzer, or you can give yourself the item in topgear and do a droptimzer with that
Sim the free PvP haste mastery neck too
static bane
0.0 what
serene socket
Looking for opinions on how to use voidcore rerolls:
Current have Hero Bifurcation Band, and Myth Platinum Star.
Do I go for the Nexus rings with a high chance for duds, or do I roll on Magisters terrace where nearly every drop is a guaranteed upgrade, but its really just main gear pieces of catalyst stuff.
compact knot
<@232249410103279616> are you alive
dude
smoky vale
bro
compact knot
and i cant que timewalking now
compact knot
ok
smoky vale
also if it was calamitous you could spam
but its not
i legit almost wanted to throw up
why i did i show up to jiu jitsu
after not going all week
compact knot
lmao
smoky vale
instantly start fighting
worn yoke
Anyone else been playing slury in keys and having an absolute blast ? I'm on par with thane despite Sims, maybe less in some of the dungeons with larger target count to be fair. God I hope they give some fury ST buffs and something slightly more to Slayer so I can continue on this path
last lichen
Can you shar your overall ?
Nah my logs got cooked, thnx blizzard
fringe vale
Nah my logs got cooked, thnx blizzard
i stoped caring about logs
knotty lynx
Any1 elses damage lower this week for no reason
dim spindle
Any1 elses damage lower this week for no reason
Not that I've noticed (thane)
I'm an m+ enjoyer so it's kinda hard to judge, way too variable. Especially when your group/tank changes frequently
worldly gulch
What is haste cap %?
dim spindle
But I've seen nothing out of line
dim spindle
What is haste cap %?
No cap, but DR starts at about 30%
worldly gulch
Thank you
dim spindle
~1200 rating... 1 sec there's a chart somewhere
knotty lynx
raids, Thane
dim spindle
What is haste cap %?
We shouldn't really have to worry about DR too much until next tier unless you've been stacking hard on any 1 stat
With the exception of weapon enchants and such
btw I don't know if it's common knowledge and I somehow missed it until now, but protip - using a regular feast will refresh hearty feast buff keeping the hearty status
Probably has to be the same feast, not sure about that part
broken kiln
any minute now they're gonna drop tuning notes
uneven path
As far as I know it has to be, but some times it bugges out not sure what are conditions
dim spindle
As far as I know it has to be, but some times it bugges out not sure what are co...
I would guess it's not intentional in the first place
But it's quite the gold saver while it lasts
Did it work that way in TWW?
uneven path
Not that I am aware of
dim spindle
Yeah I doubt it's intended. Exploit early and often my brothers in fury
uneven path
I would guess it's not intentional in the first place
Yeh, the bug bugs
dim spindle
Unless it's egregious and will get you banned. But those are pretty rare
All I know is I'm regretting not just going ahead and using both my rerolls. But hey at least I'm getting 1 freebie whenever they go out
warm crag
how many crests get wasted if i myth craft a ring?
wdym
brittle crow
wdym
like rn i have a myth ring and a champ ring
if i myth craft to replace
so i have 6/6 myth and myth crafted
and then i get a 2nd myth ring
how much can i upgrade it for free
summer quail
waste 20 crests then
fossil reef
anyone got a warrior interested in filling in on my guild's mythic raid? doing first 2-3
us-realm
drowsy heron
windrunner 15, think i did pretty good
hushed walrus
imagine having a class named warrior being last dps to boss
quiet geyser
happens quite often actually
frank dawn
Tuning notes on Monday for sure guys
frank dawn
hushed walrus
yes but imagine a priest has more damage to boss than a warrior
hushed walrus
https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-g...
6th xpack xD just amazed with a little semantic
fringe vale
yes but imagine a priest has more damage to boss than a warrior
well, accurately they have done more dmg overall irl than actual warriors so
olive wraith
hushed walrus
so that means a warrior is best priest than a priest
fringe vale
waxen adder
hushed walrus
cause we all praying for a real tuning that will never come
wide wren
We need to not just threaten to shut down the warrior discord, but to actually shut it down perhaps for them to maybe give 1 10th of attention to us
olive wraith
If only that did anything
hushed walrus
if someone can go to california to understand wtf they're doing ot not doing given the absence of balance
hushed walrus
We need to not just threaten to shut down the warrior discord, but to actually s...
or crylike mage always top 3 spec each patch but i can't cry for this shit
lusty jungle
Close the strait
hushed walrus
dire
knotty lynx
fury is in dire straights shut it down and save us
hushed walrus
warrior for nothing
knotty lynx
prove its not paly privilege
lusty jungle
At least we blast chim, was gapping em gray parsers with my 99 (1k dps more)
hushed walrus
hard to 99 if you don't padd on this boss
hushed walrus
you are first on adds by far ? or you have competition ?
knotty lynx
#shutitdown
little gust
hey fellas, is it better to spend vault tokens on voidcores or the jewel settings? whats the better strat?
hushed walrus
always sim
little gust
how am i going to sim a voidcore though? it depends on casino
hushed walrus
sim every slots of the dung you need then do the same with the jewel setting and weigh pros and cons
little gust
And how do I factor in the fact that it removes stuff from the loot table for future rolls...
reef cape
i am but a loathsome peon. can someone show me an overall and breakdown of a well executed key. i just did a MT and ended at 150, and i know i played like shit
hushed walrus
if you think you need a weapon and a cloack just sim both even if you don't have it with rolls at least you have an idea of how much you could gain
olive wraith
i am but a loathsome peon. can someone show me an overall and breakdown of a wel...
Keys have a ton of variables
Better to upload a log yourself
little gust
if you think you need a weapon and a cloack just sim both even if you don't have...
thanks - i can tell which gear will give me what kind of change in dps compared to a gem slot... but what im struggling to calculate is the probability of getting said gear when accounting for changing loot tables over time.
I need to get a number on that to compare the value of a nebulous voidcore with a gem
reef cape
Better to upload a log yourself
ah true, i guess i could just reverse engineer someone's run
i just know my damage is very low compared to what i could be doing
snow edge
thanks - i can tell which gear will give me what kind of change in dps compared ...
You are mega over-thinking it - most likely gear is going to be a bigger upgrade than sockets, and ultimately you'll get both anyway
little gust
yeah fair... i just thought there would be a giga brain out there thats worked it out... at least heuristically
I imagine that for instances where the valuable loot:all loot ratio is high, its worth it, but otherwise maybe not. So once we have picked those low hanging fruits it might be better to go for the gem slot.
reef cape
oh wow. so, TC is just prio'd to all hell in big pulls
that explains a lot looking at my goat noxiv https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vpqzM64cmfxKrFJj?fight=5&type=damage-done&source=12
frank dawn
yeah at 6+ targets its your highest prio button besides rage cap rampage
stoic rampart
give it to me straight boss is it over, are we over
frank dawn
seeing as no tuning notes have produced themselves, we're pretty fuckin dog shit!
stoic rampart
the most perfect tuning
modest ravine
Give me a few reasons why i should play fury over arms warrior.. coming from prot warrior and trying to decide what dps spec to play now that i hit 3k io
stoic rampart
there is none atp
frank dawn
the sad, but real, truth
modest ravine
heard fury is very zug zug and braindead, arms is kind of a dance with all the cd's
but everyone says fury is way more fun
frank dawn
I definitely think fury flows better and is more fun in general. The spec does not play poorly by any means (imo). It's just tuned like total shit
and slayer might as well not exist atm
modest ravine
can both specs be competetive in m+ and raids or is arms just the answer at this point?
stoic rampart
fury is rotation intensive and you're rewarded for being on top of your coolies but the tuning is so god awful that it's a lot of work to watch a frost mage shatter do more damage than 80% of your abilities
modest ravine
trying to hit 3.4k io this szn
stoic rampart
I definitely think fury flows better and is more fun in general. The spec does n...
this is the truth nuke and also why blizzard refuses to tune fury correctly i think
arms flows like molasses but does much better
spare steppe
that explains a lot looking at my goat noxiv https://www.warcraftlogs.com/report...
He’s not playing slayer???
frank dawn
slayer is just too far behind man, especially at the key levels he's doing
fury is bad, slayer is just turbo dogshit worthless
knotty lynx
never felt more discourged to play fury than this week
stoic rampart
dude fr. i have raid tomorrow night and i don't even want to show up, the gap gets bigger every week
knotty lynx
raided tn and was doing less than i was the week before
with more gear
make that make sense
stoic rampart
i had the same thing happen and i actually started tweaking trying to figure out what i was doing wrong/differently, and it was all the same
reef cape
He’s not playing slayer???
we mourned slayer together, its just not good :c
slayer has immaculate vibes but loses to stompy war
ivory monolith
wanted to ask is playing fury at 100 ping a good idea on cd i feel the my abilities are not hitting as it should be or like the youtube pov
i have to spam to make it happen