#fury
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It really depends
yeah seems like dropping masc is the play
2k loss single and unchanged aoe
or basically unchanged
Cant do damage if youre licking the floor
is doing stormarian assault ever worth at this point?
Can too! We’ve got 5 bleeds 
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/bonus-rolls-–-what-happened-and-next-steps/617132
abuse early and often guys for the future
Hello! We want to follow up on our previous post about issues we encountered with the new Voidforge bonus roll system. The Voidforge system is a brand new system using new tech that enables players to earn their desired myth track gear utilizing a bonus roll currency called Nebulous Voidcores to improve the player experience of gearing during S...
Tldr
So free mythics for people who used roll already 
Wasn’t that cause it bugged on people and gave duplicates?
It was possible to get duplicate. Not everyone got it 
Ah well, what can you do
Free shit is free shit 
tbh I done the smart thing and rolled once in both dung I am targetting. does that mean everyone who rolled day on gets a free roll?
oh I do get a free one
giga
when?
they haven't he read notes
i know lol
yeah now I go MT to roll on 2h and ring
i run slayer for 1st, 2nd and 3rd boss in voidspire, rest is thane
I am so confused
why run slayer on 3rd and 1st? they have the best profile for thane out of all fights?
how's fury on M paladins ?
this just heroic ? I can see maybe imp but salad bar is kinda made for thane
nah, mythic
you get so much clap dmg from balls
as stated, they die within 1 bladestorm so
yeah tbh my DH players fucking griefing my add cleve
I feel like if you wasnt in early prog of those bosses now ur legit useless class
until you get to play arms on paladins
then back to the bench
@toxic jewel and the other raids? the 2 fury warriors running thane on mythic chim are doing bottom damage.
i run thane as well
just run in and cleave the adds when they spawn in
and dont forget wrecking throw on the big boy
yeah for like 2 globals until they insta die
tbh I think im done w raid this tier got my heart got gaze
the more I think about fury in raid its just so bad what we are good at we cant do because shit dies omega fast now because of better pad classes
i parsed a 93 on myth chim
did you get send down alone or what lol
no lol
my raiders are fucking padders asf looked at my logs I only get like 12% add dmg and other logs have like 20%+
They let you do dmg to adds ?
we run 2 dev dh, demo locks, boomkins, and mages. adds melt in seconds.
No Dev DH
Are we raiding in same guild or what ? xdd
^^^^^
I legit get 2 claps off
"small adds coming up"
great bye my dmg
cant hit smallies in upper portion either thats ranged job
may aswell be fucking sat
Down with hope, up with cope
I tolled my RL to just fucking bench me
He didnt
So now I have to pretend to do boss dmg
doing pure boss dmg when there is adds up to cleve grinds me like nothing else
no, but i do it anyway lol
right, small adds come up. Raid Lead "stay away from the markers!!*
yeah tanking the dude straight down the middle of the room too
the only boss I like is 1st and 3rd boss
because I actually get to do some kind of dmg there
outside of that fucking nothing until you get to paladins
cant even pad on dragons anymore either they die so fast
Just straight up shot him down
pallies it's never worth sending cds unless all 3 are active right? Like don't send if one is doing his ult
So like... I just rolled this should I stick prot till the sun comes out?
Rolled fury?
Warrior yes
Keys and raid
But this damage is making me sad
My 1t5m Sim for fury is 20k lower than my mage at same ilvl
Keys, fury is fine
"keys and raid" is about the least descriptive answer you can give to that question lol
Dadguild aotc lolol
15s and mythic man
I didn't know there was a phrase to so succinctly describe my guild
15s is still good for fury
Ya tough as nails
can always play arms in m+ if you dont like the damage fury is doing
it's one of the top aoe dps right now
I hate how arms plays i fear
There’s heavy repercussions for going prot
I dont think there will be punishment
There will be violent outburst
badum tss
Unfortunately I was cursed with a competitive spirit
Reroll to a uhdk already then
Fury is alright in keys but falls off in damage after a while to arms
Don't do this to yourself
Everything thats fun isnt good, cause Blizzard hates fun
Ok not title competitive, but I wanna be "good"
Im not a fotm reroller tho so I get sad when specs I like dont do well
Need one more 16 for 34 and then im good
Fury is totally fine for that
I just like topping meters tho hahs
You are in warrior discord brother people are not hopium sniffers here dw. But for what you described fury is fine yeah
I get its a team effort
I personally prefer it to arms
Well I pug so prolly not
i mean yeah fury is fine but you're also just doing 20% less aoe than arms
Pug is hard for most specs
is there any fury who is pushing 17+ keys? it feels like something is off for melee range
Pugging is playing your own key 99% of the time. Always has been, always will be. Unless you reroll fotm
Many, actually
Real...
Just reroll hunter and get 2 daggers
ezpz
Idk if prot would be any easier tbh. Aren’t people too erect for brew rn
Nah. Prot or fury is literally no difference. In lower keys they dont care. Anything above 15 and chances are u wont get any invites for ages
why reroll hunter if you can also use daggers on fury
Brew is just sooo far ahead its like other tank speccs dont exist
dagger smf tech yo
Even on my mage sometimes hard to get invites lol
mage isnt meta right now
Ik
if you want free invites play aug
Never do such a thing
All non meta dps struggle with pug invites
Ugly Lil dragons
not happening
Play brewmaster problem solved. Less than 5s queuetime anywhere
This will not solve your issue, but you better have some ironhard Mentality
When life gets hard, I get harder
been doing a simming deep dive today to try and figure out how i can balance stats between fury and arms, and it is becoming apparent sims are liking crit over vers for fury, thoughts? in fact vers is responding very low on sims for both specs
Cause BS and BT love crit, basically
Arms whole Toolkit Revolves around passives that fervor crit.
Bloodthirst build also fervors around crit.
Vers% is hard to get for minimal gain, crit% goes critbleed goes happy fury
Tldr all stats good
this^
why am i just seeing weapons and trinkets? i thought you can loot anything from the dungeon?
i was concerned about not playing arms on fights like paladins so committed to heavily adjusting all my stats - not necessary in the big picture
this is the upgrade item (comes in 4 weeks)
ah i see, so right now to see the best place to use my rerolls. I just check with +10 vault i assume?
Sim but hardly worth changing
Do you really wanna minmax your race 
It’s like sub 1% diff
I just wanted to be bigger lol
Orc is the better model
Oh. So tauren it is
well Ap/haste is not bad
Panda mechagnome and voidelf are dps bis iirc
Aoe stop is good
And Tauren big
Plus you might have sync issues with on use radials
We like our racials like our trinkets. Passive 
So youre saying.. dwarf
The bis for what exactly
A stun removal every 3 minutes?
Just dodge stuff and its redundant
no
will to survive is 3 mins
its better in solo content
nelf is absolute bis in m+
Ah, well theres also an occasional mechanic you can use it to bypass
yeah
I personally use it on windrunner spire last boss
you can skip 2 knock up arrows
I think there’s been something human racial can cleanse every season since Df? For keys
Hell no. Humans got the most boring animations out of all them models
Maybe just my perception after playing them for 21 years tho
I play human myself , Nelf in m+ is just better 😄
It really doesn’t matter
Man, i miss the old animations. Those were good.
Shame wod killed em
Gnome 
Unless you’re title pushing
Gnome remove roots got slight nerf with fearless/berserker rage
Just remove all racials, problem solved
Agree
Chad
Why cant every fight bê like saladbar
30 secs cd with a shit Ton of adda
Damn that was fun
Saladbar would be the worst fight of this tier if vorasius didn’t exist, for me
Dragons and paladins both way worse
wat vorasius worst fight? opinion of all time, he's just a dude. it's a completely whatever fight
Vorasius would be way better if the walls weren't jagged
Like if they were straight and just appeared jagged
visual clarity on dragons and paladins is so insanely bad though
Making it the worst fight yes
not done alleria mythic yet but that looks like the worst fight(for melee) even hc alleria is oof....
My raid has like 7 melee
Im on alleria so i can’t say much rn
oof
it's nbd for me but our rogues are in hell
How many melees on paladin?
we got 3 melees in our paladin prog. still do not like the fight
I found it OK fight
6 it looks like
we have so many melee that me and our rogues have to be fully out of melee range during the execution sentences
I don’t like the raid overall at all in this moment in time
same
wat tell those rets and dks to fk themselves
they got long hands
I've BEAN sayin
We put dk/ret in a far soak
we really should but idk I wasn't gonna make a stink about it
we weren't dying to dps checks anyways
worst raid for melee i have ever done and i've played since MoP. tho only mythic raided since legion
last tier wasn't too bad for melee was it
ehh idk about that. usually it's been said for testing and then it turns out alright, this time it did not turn out alright at all
Dimmy hands 
I'd take dimmy hands over dragons wings every day of the week
tell me one fight designer playtested this as melee
personally found it fine. no fight where i got overly frustrated at being melee
You don’t fight it in front of them ?
not sure what you mean but my orb drop position is basically inside the boss hitbox
I played extremely ethical colossus 2t build this week
Was giga piping bosses before I died to circles I physically couldn't see
who else were you giga piping
well warrior is dead i think
And currently fury on alleria, I will decide another day if I switch arms
can prob do whatever you want on alleria, you're just token battleshout
nah i like paladins
This was boss dam for dragons on one of our wipes
DRAGONS SUCK
I was doing 157k on our kill pull before I died to circles obscured by dragon wing
r1 boss dps is 125k btw
(not mad at all)
just dodge the circle smile
WHY, I need to send a pic of my pov
me when the shields, hammers, and senn's bubble are all the same color and happen at the same time
Demolish is a greedy cast I know
Yeah I think I need to 45 degree angle camera more
skill issue for sure
But also literally anyone who played the fight as melee could've told you the visual clarity would be ass
yo fellas is there a time when we want 2 mythic weapons and craft something else ? or is the crafted offhand bis ?
ye but dodge central i like that
cosmos sucks as melee
like hard ban
I don't mind dodging stuff I can see, but when the shields coming in are the same color as the boss bubble that's just fucked up
I actually kinda do mind bc I'm bad at it and it makes me mad, but I don't mind the concept
lolol
when we first got to it the shields were SO invisible
tbh i just die by the sword and leapt to avoid most of it
Yeah I usually just leap and pray
i got skill issue on paladins tho i was old asf on that pot
I have to save DBTS for the 5:00 execution sentence
because our healers are questionable
I realized yesterday that I've had TWW health pots on my arms bars all expac
i do the leap of faith too
I was about to say berserker rage on W is crazy work, but you're fr*nch so you use azerty layout innit
i was dbts the group soaks -> shields bc that was super sketch
yeah i think i like paladins bc it's just skill issue
it's on Z on your keyboard, or you have qwertz ?
the dragons are weird
cause
like
why do we have a 7 minute fight as the fourth boss of tier lmao
qwerty but I also don't bind anything to letter keys (except wrecking throw is ctrl+r)
throw this guy on your blacklist
okok big mouse guy ?
How tf
im too used to have all that on the left hand side
Nah I only have two side mouse buttons, I just use 1-5, mousewheel up/down, and side mouse buttons, and then ctrl/shift/alt/ctrl+shift mods of those
ctrl is diabolical
I use the side of my palm to press ctrl
don't @ me
using your pinky for ctrl is dastardly behavior
breaking hand behavior pinky ctrl
Any chance anyone here knows or heard if a fury buff is coming this reset?
you play with your hand crotched ?
I have no idea what you mean by that
pinky on shift, thumb on space, fingers on WAD
ctrl with the side of my palm
mb, english skill issue
like do you play with your hand slightly closed? bc i don't understand how do you press ctrl with your palm, i have 100% full size keyboard
like that
Kind of like this but shifted up+left
But yeah my fingers are like perpendicular to the keys instead of laying flat
Well they're normal to the keys because 3d space but you know what I mean
yy
i put the keyboard in a 45 degree angle like cs players
i play with hand full flat, so that's why i ask
That feels like I'd have to internally rotate my shoulder a lot more idk
I have like only my wrist on the desk tho
my forearms are on the arms of my chair
your arm/hand is naturally angled when on a desk, ur arms are never fully stretched so angling ur keyboard enhance ergonomics
for me at least
think bigger issue is they're buffed
and also bigger because they're buffed
i legit also play like cs players do lol
🙅♂️
it's so bad
Im only at p2 so i don’t really see the so bad
Well we saw p3s ofc but doesn’t count
Minus playing a dogshit spec
On the boss
its FUN
being able to solo half of the arrows in p2 is gigachad
the only time i think its supremely cringe is if tank like purposefully walks away from your obelisk when ur aiming down an add p2
but otherwise should have like 100% uptime contingent on ur prepositioning i thikn
Aiming the triple thingy at the add is annoying but it’s not that big
Gigachads leap last second to hit the add with the obelisk
???????the little adds in p1 die all around the big add
are u lose uptime like crazy
I find it fun tbf
surely can just dance around them
and/or they die in 1 tight ish stack
not in like a donut shape
think was almost always somewhere to stand unless again like melee baiting obby's directly under boss and circle covers his entire area
which which case melee prepositioning issue
cluegi
if it's a big dodge i usually can fill with a thunderclap and that's it
the logitech g6500 is great if you use control, cause you can use it all on the mouse lol
our healers and some rdps get aggro so they die weird sometimes
i taunt a lot of those
i did taunt demiar on a pull yes
whats the max you guys are willing to pay for someone to craft a jc for recipe for you
like 2k or something
if they dont ask for money i give them 5k lmao
if they do i just find soemoen who doesnt
yeah they didnt ask for money
how good is arcanoweave lining embellishment
good
is it like musthave
"We care deeply about this game, and we play it right alongside you. We will do better. " -blizz
clearly not 1 of them plays a fury war >.>
Anyone get their bonus roll refund yet
I intended to jump on the arms boat after reset, but im reading alot of complaints regarding the changes they made to the spec
so what is the way to go
depends on the type of content you are doing.
m+
both specs easily can go to like +17's
just random and would love some help, im coming over from arms back to fury for better prog in raid, anyone have decent arc ui i can base it off of? ❤️
Do we get a catalyst next week?
Hello!
Im sorry If that question already was asked(tried to search but havent found)
Currently playing M+ Thane Build
Icyveins/method guides a little bit confusing for me(low int)
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one guide states "use odyn before ava/reck" other says "use ava/reck then odyn"(opener). What is the difference and what is correct? I was using odyn after ava/reck on pull(feels like right to buff it by ava)
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I do understand general prio(do not overcap fury/never keep thunder at 2 charges/keep enrage/ww) stacks. Its ok.
But I cant understand where should be in prio procced execute/or execute on execute phase.
Like, bloodbath/bt->rampage->execute?
Or Bloodbath/bt->execute->rampage?
Should Ive use it immediately off cd, or only if I cannot use bt/rampage/thunder charge?
Sorry if I've made confusing post.
I use of on opener every pull
Charge, odyn, avatar reck, clap, ramp, clap, bt, clap etc
I just send it
I care more about avatar claps
Aoe huge pack thst shit slaps
Oh I goy a video
1 sec
yeh, its normal but still
sure thx
also I know warrior isnt a best pick for raid, i just want to play thane and improve my perfomance
so is MT much better than slayer?
Its easier
gotcha
also many adds in raid
I think its slightly lower on dps
im doing shit dps with both 🙁
Welcome to fury war
i did 47k on normal salhadaar in 236 ilvl warrior(its alt)
dunno if its good or bad, i guess in good ilvl i can do 80-90
I sent you a friend reques5
i made a hunter and spent about 3 days gearing it and im already doing as much damage as my 280 fury warrior
@sullen dove
why are you pinging me
bro is busy
(he isnt)
gio is not busy
help the guy out man
bro is not busy
you are yellow
running down keys
i am not
right
eky
oh no it takes doing 2 keys to boost it up 6 levels
odyns is not that crazy strong of a button so doesnt really matter when you press it your dmg wont change in much meaningful way, dots are most of the dmg and get buffed when u use cds after odyns, and execute is after bloodbath/thirst and rampage in prio in just about every scenario (as thane)
you may not even hit a sudden death at all during thane cooldowns on aoe
wow ty swordish the yellow
stop typing
getting declined by 2.1k dogs 
do your little baby key
wow ty swordish57 the yellow
thank you!
Anyone playing that can join and stream? Would love to see proper rotations.
could maybe see if any of the 3 live ppl in top right are playin your spec
looks like noxiv on fury and gio presumably on arms in m+
and khaz raiding as presumably arms
????
actual yappington 5000
did you guys notice the sound effect of each skill is like... gone or got clanky?? or is it just me
its like when I Rampage, the sound it made was way less impactful
yo warcraft logs reset our parse? last week it was most poeople within 90s and 80s+ then one week later its down to 30s and 29s and the dps changed? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6JbyR1CpY4xB27jL?fight=12&type=damage-done
very knowledgeable yellow sword 57
Ty
i wish that eddie57 guy streamed
Read the text in the middle of the screen
Droplets excluded after 12.0.5
downtime for damage
Big padders smh...
I am too washed too stream now
Maybe when I start my title pushing again
What is the new right rotation?
i mean this kill looks like its on wednesday right, and im assuming those 2 screenshots are on the day of on the left and today on the right
or actually nvm dps is too different too seems weird
was gonna say parse number could go down because if its like day 2 of a patch and you do a lot better than ppl that killed bosses on tuesday which isnt a lot compared to later raid days, it may look like a parse on the 2nd day of the patch shows as a 95 for example cuz it is a 95 in comparison to all of the logs from only the day before, but when more ppl kill it on wednesday it re-ranks compared to all the ppl that killed on 2nd day too
that might somewhat explain the number but tbh have no clue why everyones dps just goes down by like 50%
erm
like losing void drop pad isnt worth that much
did you read what eddie said
and removing intermission downtime should boost your dps not reduce it
the mage is not doing 60k overall fight dps to droplets
you are on crack
if you think that
unfiltered dmg he does 133k
rly not sure why he goes down from 180k to 120k
and even despite that this kill is still from this wednesday 1-2 days ago like droplets shouldve been excluded in the first picture too
or does intermission being treated as downtime mean they are now being counted in overall dps and were being excluded before? think that would make no sense if thats the case but tbh idk what they mean when they word it like that but again, still a wednesday kill
yo no sabo
i have a question. If I take the Rampaging Ruin trait, it looks like the damage is higher on simc. Is it the right choice to take this?
it may be higher aoe dmg on many targets but you lose a lot of single target which is one of the few things we're somewhat reasonable at in m+ retaining ok st dmg and getting lotta aoe in return
And i presume as slayer
thx guys
Still no bluepost for buffs 
are we on a worse situation this season or back in undermine season? (as fury
in raid way worse and its not close
in m+ i forgot cause i didnt play fury ngl, but fury isnt bad in m+ right now but is overshadowed by arms but still playable
what was teh rotation for that tier
raging blow probably
like always
it literally was like the same thing the whole expansion in raid
you just push raging blow, rampage and execute
sometimes bloodthirst
we were fine in undermine season
How bad would I be throwing if I played slayer fury on mythic paladins
very throw
could just go slayer arms instead
think even with the fob bug both arms hero talents are better then both fury hero talents
slayer arms and mt fury might be close idk
True. I just hate mt fury some how I am bad at it
is the nexus point ring set at mythic better than having 2 other rings with priority stats? The rings always amount for 0,4-0,9% overall
in m+ probably not
in raid its very good
nexus point ring set is bis until you can get myth l'ura ring
which the majority of the playerbase will either not get or take very long to get
is it worth blowing bonus rolls for voidclaw gauntlets if i dont need trinkets or weapon?
You could play it safe and save them until next week for a couple of reasons
do tell
- We can try and trust blizzard when they say they fixed the duplication bug
- You could get it in your vault next week.
I feel like it's better used
2 can be applied to any item at any time
Yes
Do you not need gear from other places?
Like myth tier for example
Or jewelry from certain dungeons
Hunting for 1 item for a medium dps increase when you could send them in a different dungeons with 5 items are also medium increases
As of right now I think its better to focus on amount of gear > hunting 1 specific piece
if you fan of slayer
you can do both
If I know the full context of your character it'll be easier to tell obviously
like, even if 15+?
in what lvl do you think its not worth it?
0.1% push I think
2 bonus rolls. Which dungeon would you spam for a 2h?
I would go for droptimizer
it would be easier to droptimizer
but uh
let me check
i mean its not only supposed to be a 2h dung
exactly
which is why droptimizer is really good
let me check journal tho
you ideally want something with leggings
ye for bonus roll that feature is mvp
prob MT
i did a quick journal glance and they all have alotta dead weight
legs/ring/wep
also i cant figure if getting a mythic ring would be acceptable for breaking the nexus point set
magisters seems real good
for you
it has weapon, legs, cloak boots and a great fury statted ring
5/7 items are a hit for you technically
i have the first boss chest off a vault
does that negate the chance to drop from bonus roll
no
ofc it doesnt...
id take the 5/7 > a 1/9 of whatever it is in seat
oh yeah, i dont have em equipped, but i do have mythic boots in bag. just with worse stats
the boots from magisters have great fury stats
seat items like all have vers
which isnt great
the rings are bricks, the trinket is a brick, boots and belt are a brick and the neck/helm are bricks
i think your most efficient dungeon with rerolls right now is 100% magisters though
5/7 chance for something good with good stats vs a 2/10 from seat
alright then, MT it is
you want to work on the biggest slots which you have most of them filled in except for legs and weapon which magisters has
meanwhile seat has some medium and low tier items like gloves and wrists
just cross your fingers and pray
pit of saron is a good one if u arms
but this is the fury channel
I'll see myself out
i lost a 5/8 roll then a 5/7 roll from pit as a arms woyer
good thing im getting refunded though xdd
got crit mastery mythic boots from chimerus. Just wont have the crests on them for a while
those are aight
and i was on the fence whether the ring was worth breaking the nexus set bonus
hence why MT didnt seem like such a slam dunk at first
its really a sim question
if you sim a droptimizer itll just tell you upfront which dungeons are the most efficient for you
what kind of boss and fight length should i run it with
What kind of refund are you talking about guys?
idk patchwerk 1 target 5 mins is pretty solid
am i doing something wrong or does droptimiser only considers weapon and trinkets
because it competely ignores any leg and ring drops in the comparison
can you send me your simc string
the thing you copy from ingame when you type /simc @rare fjord
i can do the sim for u
sent
just used a bonus roll on npx and got the cloak rip
I used mine on chimerus -- the boots dropped, didn't get them -- but got them on the bonus roll
No trinket for mee
are you guys also having problems with patching battlenet?
Did they give back the x2 bonus rolls to everyone who spent them before Thursday morning already?
With rng you could be full mythic
quite unfair)
Eu bonus rolls refunded?
Came back to midnight few days ago, how much better is thane fury compared to slayer?
You mean you lost a 5/8 and a 5/8
and pit is still a 5/8
we stay losing
if they did i want my fucking 3 stupid bad vaults back ^_^
I’m going to be frank, 3 shit vaults, cloak and boots bonus roll ( already had mythic boots) no gaze no mythic weapon, im not mad at a refund with this shit rng.
Dont the guys who spend after the "fix" get ultra fckd tho? 
because people who spend on wednesday or before the fix get double the rolls
grr
yes
they at worst are like even with the people who get the worst luck but yeah in general it’s like 90% negative if u didn’t spend anything
glad i blasted mine out on wednesday
the bad case for if u did spend some, is you try to roll whatever you spent your early coins on and you might still get the same item(s) you rolled again
but the better and frankly more likely case probably is you just get something different and you just have extra rolls to try
absolute best case scenario tho is using ur roll and winning whatever item u wanted the first time
u spend 2 coins to get mythic gaze out of raid? Gratz u get 2 more coins back and get a free trinket
oh so did they even reset the whole saved items which you got already?
pretty big disparity between the winners and the losers
there was nothing to reset cuz it was never being tracked
that was the issue
ugh
they have no way of telling who got what for the last two days
yea they’d have to do their job for more than like 5 minute so unlikely
they do
but why would they
Feel like it should show up on item restoration and could make inferences or something
but that was in their post
if they can be lazy and do this instead
It wasn’t properly linked to a database it was supposed to
cuz live wow is diff than testing server wow
can you pls answer my dm gup
I am not answering some meaningless dm man
sim if you want to waste crests I don’t care
Myth crest is still capped anyhows, it’s not that disastrous

so if i spend 3 rolls do i get all 3 back or just the 2 from the quest
3 would be insane
if you spent them before the bug fix u presumably get all 3 but maybe it’s just capped at two to not be so op
yea thats what i meant
yea think so too
or give everyone including those who didnt spend 2
but everyone that didn’t spend one should prolly also just get +1
significant disparity
nah give everyone 2
but my greedy ass still thought about it
No cuz now the people with 4 this week are ahead
otherwise there is a disparity
cuz they get 4 unbugged rolls
what
where early spenders can use 4 rolls and get 2-3 of the same item
You spend 2 before bug fix, get 2 algethar rings
after fix, return two rolls, do alg again, you could get another ring
you let someone with 4 rolls do alg now they will only get 1 ring
4 unbugged too strong but 1 extra is fine to make it 3 I think
just let me go to a vendor and get full bis ty
Basically what u be sayin
But I think 1 extra for non spenders is an ok middle ground
make up for ppl that can win hard on the rng with 4 rolls this week but some ppl that have 4 will also just lose really hard still
But even “losing” with 4 rolls you’re still almost guaranteed better off than just having 2 unbugged rolls going forward
Just 1-2 extra myth pieces for fun
Regardless they said what they’re gonna do so doubt non spenders will get an extra roll anyway
just think it would make sense/be the most fair
did they give the rolls already
prolly not imagine it’ll take a few days
ok ty
good morning i hope everyone is looking handsome n cute today
yo gm lads, any chance anyone here knows if we gonna get any buff this reset or week or anything? any leaks? as fury? i am so so sad about our situation.
Hello everyone. I just finished leveling my warrior is it still good to craft a weapon or is it to late now, and I should craft any low level item instead?
if nothing is posted this weekend as tuning post looks rough
everybody is ranting on comments etc but dunno if blizz cares tbh
as you can see with dh dk buffs 
they definitely care ... about our dh overlords
idk man i am struggling so much on my 21s.....
fury needs desperately a buff like a big one....outlaw gains 13% and its capped at 8 (soft cap) we are at 5 and SOME abilities at (soft cap) 8 like idk...
i am thinking of more of a 10%
i also thought of 10- max 15%
to make us competitive
especially in higher keys like yuki plays
but of course mainly in raid where we are horrible as we know
you can go ahead and craft it
its never too late really
bonus rolls however do give you a pretty good chance at myth track weapon once you do a +10 as an fyi
big w
So the Weapon emb isn't stronger then the 3 item level I suppose?
bonus rolls best thing since sliced bread for non mythic raiders
having one crafted weapon and one myth track weapon is still best choice as far as I know
Ok so I got one from Vault and the second one I would craft then with the emb. Thanks a lot sir
I think this is the way yes
still a mystery? how many of the upgraded thingys we will get and how we will get em? so upgrading offhand is maybe not the highest prio?
Mainhand -> trinkets -> ? offhand or major amor piece?
yeah you'll still want hunt and its more than likely advisable when gear boost is available to boost your crafted off hander
bottom on dps fak me
Ah
fury shines in cleave and consistent add fights, problem is that everyhting dies in 1 sec because everybody is overloaded and also fury is kinda bad on dmg
raid feels horrible
prob is also people looking for arms not for fury....so i am giga alone rn to game...
yeah was saying this yesterday the one job fury can do we cant because of dev DH pretty much
lura eg
there are like a ton of better add killers than us in raid
progged yesterday and the crystal just fcking die in 3 sec
if we had a way to just go all in ST and be OK at that it would be the way
and you cant even ramp your dmg up because of mm hunters, dh etc
but sadly we cant
although I do expect some RB aura buff
which will make no diff at all but I expect it
i think we need buff flat 10% aura on all abilites and such that would make us really okish
our parses also suck since we are compared to kills where warrior got to pad
yep
do we know when they will tune?
lol I was saying this yesterday unless you were one of the early prog furys ur logs are shit
If you have some S tier deveourer and balance people in the guild and also devs I thikn? good luck getting pad
blink and you miss it
usually things are announced on friday for the next reset but can also happen any other time we dont know
like I was looking at my chim log yesterday and I had 12% dmg to adds look at rank 1 log he had 22% dmg to adds
I love getting a 98 boss damage but 44 overall, hell yeah
I legit get 2 globals then smallies come up and up top phase I am not allowed to hit them
because of cross over dmg
fuck off man lol
The apm is kinda crazy
I feel like an idiot hitting 90 buttons a minute to do 50k dps
Jk not thst low in just qq
carpel tunnel for boss dmg is a great trade off
Lmfao
tank dmg sorry*
I mean what can they do to just fix ST though? Auto Attack dmg? would ffeel bad man
the thing is the way the class is played its completely fucked
because if they give us the single buff we need
or if only hitting one target gains x% dmg
aoe is busted
they nerfed our auto attack dmg in midnight prepatch so
we are just fucked until something gets reworked
I mean at this point they could just remove RB and take the CD of BT and tune accordingly and make it do more dmg when hitting 1 target or something
and maybe make the RB talents into some ST stuff
so you can balance
Is crucible good as a starter trinket until gaze ?
yeah we aint getting a rework until new season at a minimum I expect some RB aura buff and maybe reap chance up to 25% for slayer
I want to try fury but i dont have good gear for it (1k crit 800 haste and 400 mast) what should i farm ?
No its dog
those are arms stats if I have ever seen them
Yeah i play arms but in M+ we dont have sham
Has anyone gotten there void orbs yet
IMO arms is overrated for regular players.. People just look at biz and think this is arms
its not
getting good damage as arms is way harder than fury in m+
in keys normally 75ish boss dmg overall
15-20k more is nothing to scoff at
but I am like 280
I'm 273, i dont have all the good gear yet
tbh col arms is kinda hard to play agree but the demo change does change quite alot and makes it easier
as you just send on CD now rather than 10 stacks only
guys, we using crit haste?
we using simcraft
yeah single is hard to optimise but tbh just gap so much in aoe and build comps around boss dmg thats what I do when I play arms
ill just ele sham instead of resto and get rogue instead of ferral
Which rogues is the best in ST ?
Assa or sub? I know outlaw are more like consistent AOE
think assa is good no?
I'd say yeah
But without sham buff i'm soooo behind in ST as col arms
Its insane tbh
When i have the buff i'm 65k-70k
the easiest way wwould be to use meat cleaver as a tuning knob
just get ur healer to play resto if not pug ur own keys and build phys comps
aura buff our damage by 10% but reduce cleave damage by 5%
10% would be a start
which aint ever gonna happen
and make us at least a little competitive
15% would probably not make us broken tho
seeeing as im currently beating the rets and warlocks in guild for boss parses but still being 20-25% damage behind
im talking about boss damage parses
like on chimaerus i got a 96 with 54k boss dps
and my ret homie got a 90 with 64k
how far is slayer bheind thane in keys?
@fringe citrus
gaze heroic worth trying to roll? i mean its still better than everything on mythic, but 2 mythic upgrades from keys sounds better no?
Just do mythic, that boss flops over with PuG groups
It is basically a HC boss on mythic
yeah i was sideeying some mythic raids, but everyone only wants ce
I've seen guides, and this boss should be pugable
I got in with 1/? HC, you will be fine
okay ill save my rolls then and look out for it this week
There's like 1 different mechanic and with that one you just stand on a mark
Yo, is it a good idea to spend voidcore for a second myth weapon and replace my crafted weapon to a crafted neck ?
That's gonna be the play for me next week i think
Recraft embell on cloak or whatever is my lowest, hold until I roll a 2nd weap from m+ or vault
if you can pick whatever to put crests towards, going from 289+285crafted to 2x 289 and then crafting a low budget slot like cloak isnt that good. If you can put crests towards myth track chest/legs/helm or trinkets its probably better
you can figure out your choices and test them out in a top gear sim
Okay, i see, thanks
Fury st is better than arms st for beloren ?
not really no
beloren is st/2t which is great for arms slayer
mythic i dont know
im sure someone here can tell me whos actually good at the game unlike me
warrior ok on l'ura, especially after MM was killed and UH DK is bugged to shit 
yep just need other specs being bugged we can compete trust
warriors own

arms is pretty good on L'ura even before specs were bugged af
Buffs Inc today boys, dont worry. The AI balancing Team is cooking something big for us
everyone is getting buffed
Dear Claude, I wrote you a letter
return to sender + pipe bomb
Idk what's worse. Fury this season or that one season in DF where we only got to do damage like every 1min30sec
Burst just feels good
problem is that arms is "better" but still shit
so you cant even swap specs and feel better about it
yeah colo owns in aoe for m+ but ST is criminal
- arms plays like dogshit, specially without a shaman
thats true
Oh god the shaman is so needed
Ye...
wrong arms is better
It’s 12% damage for colossus, it’s wild
And even Arms Slayer felt like shit
yeah ravager is big lame but bs isnt great either..afk for 3 sec big gameplay
Better than Colo but still ass
bro ur afk
Bs is boring from a gameplay perspectiv but it feels good and thats all that matters in the end
True lmao
you aint pressing shit during demolish either
like the argument is wack
its a channeled ability that deals nice dmg
spamming cleave during ravager isnt much of a gameplay either
when is that voidcore refund suppoed to happen btw
maybe reset?
So glad I held mine /s
abuse early abuse often bro
tbh i fucked up this time by not reading a guide too
xdd
I already got burned on crests so I didn't want to risk it 🙁
didnt know it fucking takes two so i threw in a cheeky HC gaze roll.. in fury spec..got vestige. was embarassing
i got gaze luckily
it woulda been gaze on prot 100%
Close discord ?
never gonna happen
warrior players love suffering
we cant even agree on what would a rework be like
doomed class
Next season, ST to the moon. Zero aoe
ya complaining is half the fun
tbf i just played retail warrior bc i always played it in classic
its quite different but the complaining and neglection of the class is universal
i mean its not garbo garbo
like id love to make one myself but im nowhere near as good to write a big post about all the issues and fixes
saying classic warrior is neglected is a wild statement
getting invites is a bit harder bc its not meta
Well my both chim mythic rolls where duplicates
I also want refund
you should get em no?
it kinda said everyone who spent them already
I still wanna complain bad rng
can we get archi to do a wowhead news post about fury boss dmg
I got a chest i had, and feet i had. Sadly bonus roll only depends on rolls not items allready in inv
then maybe wow dev sees it and we get a buff
after open hatred towards the players and the class in wotlk and sod? sure bud
nah cata and mop was fine ur right
but it was fun to see warriors complaining in mop classic when they are the best class if you add banner dmg to their bar on logs
Hey Guys. Im a little confused about crafting. I can see in guides that for Fury they prefering a polearm and for arms the sword. What should i craft if i want to play both spec?
Sword
the type doesnt matter
Always
weapon types doesnt matter as damage ranges are normalized