#fury

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uneven path
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Plus ER is much better vs rot dmg

olive wraith
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It really depends

vague stump
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yeah seems like dropping masc is the play

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2k loss single and unchanged aoe

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or basically unchanged

tawny turtle
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Cant do damage if youre licking the floor

fickle vector
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is doing stormarian assault ever worth at this point?

olive wraith
remote haven
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World of Warcraft Forums

Hello! We want to follow up on our previous post about issues we encountered with the new Voidforge bonus roll system. The Voidforge system is a brand new system using new tech that enables players to earn their desired myth track gear utilizing a bonus roll currency called Nebulous Voidcores to improve the player experience of gearing during S...

olive wraith
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Tldr

thorny verge
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So free mythics for people who used roll already keks

olive wraith
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Wasn’t that cause it bugged on people and gave duplicates?

thorny verge
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It was possible to get duplicate. Not everyone got it KEKW

olive wraith
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Ah well, what can you do

thorny verge
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Free shit is free shit Rampage

olive wraith
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Lose/lose situation for Blizz

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Maybe they should try having less bugs in the future

vague stump
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tbh I done the smart thing and rolled once in both dung I am targetting. does that mean everyone who rolled day on gets a free roll?

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oh I do get a free one

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giga

toxic jewel
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when?

vague stump
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they haven't he read notes

toxic jewel
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i know lol

vague stump
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oh I get 2 back

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fucking pog but now maybe I get dupes

thorny verge
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Go another dungeon

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: D

vague stump
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yeah now I go MT to roll on 2h and ring

toxic jewel
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i run slayer for 1st, 2nd and 3rd boss in voidspire, rest is thane

vague stump
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I am so confused

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why run slayer on 3rd and 1st? they have the best profile for thane out of all fights?

toxic jewel
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best add damage, sure

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but when everything melts within 1 BS

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lol

surreal linden
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how's fury on M paladins ?

vague stump
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this just heroic ? I can see maybe imp but salad bar is kinda made for thane

toxic jewel
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nah, mythic

vague stump
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you get so much clap dmg from balls

toxic jewel
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as stated, they die within 1 bladestorm so

vague stump
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yeah tbh my DH players fucking griefing my add cleve

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I feel like if you wasnt in early prog of those bosses now ur legit useless class

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until you get to play arms on paladins

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then back to the bench

vast gorge
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@toxic jewel and the other raids? the 2 fury warriors running thane on mythic chim are doing bottom damage.

toxic jewel
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i run thane as well

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just run in and cleave the adds when they spawn in

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and dont forget wrecking throw on the big boy

vague stump
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yeah for like 2 globals until they insta die

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tbh I think im done w raid this tier got my heart got gaze

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the more I think about fury in raid its just so bad what we are good at we cant do because shit dies omega fast now because of better pad classes

toxic jewel
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i parsed a 93 on myth chim

vague stump
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did you get send down alone or what lol

toxic jewel
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no lol

vague stump
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my raiders are fucking padders asf looked at my logs I only get like 12% add dmg and other logs have like 20%+

uneven path
vast gorge
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we run 2 dev dh, demo locks, boomkins, and mages. adds melt in seconds.

uneven path
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No Dev DH

uneven path
vague stump
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^^^^^

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I legit get 2 claps off

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"small adds coming up"

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great bye my dmg

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cant hit smallies in upper portion either thats ranged job

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may aswell be fucking sat

lusty jungle
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Down with hope, up with cope

uneven path
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I tolled my RL to just fucking bench me

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He didnt

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So now I have to pretend to do boss dmg

vague stump
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doing pure boss dmg when there is adds up to cleve grinds me like nothing else

toxic jewel
vast gorge
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right, small adds come up. Raid Lead "stay away from the markers!!*

vague stump
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yeah tanking the dude straight down the middle of the room too

vague stump
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the only boss I like is 1st and 3rd boss

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because I actually get to do some kind of dmg there

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outside of that fucking nothing until you get to paladins

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cant even pad on dragons anymore either they die so fast

uneven path
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I hate Dev DH

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They are what we couldve been in TWW S1

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They got another one

olive wraith
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<@&257983573498265600>

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Op

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Too fast

noble edge
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yeah yeah

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i got it

uneven path
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Just straight up shot him down

thorny zenith
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pallies it's never worth sending cds unless all 3 are active right? Like don't send if one is doing his ult

broken kiln
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So like... I just rolled this should I stick prot till the sun comes out?

olive wraith
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Rolled fury?

broken kiln
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Warrior yes

olive wraith
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Play whatever you think is fun

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What kind of content are you doing

broken kiln
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Keys and raid

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But this damage is making me sad

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My 1t5m Sim for fury is 20k lower than my mage at same ilvl

olive wraith
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Keys, fury is fine

modest condor
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"keys and raid" is about the least descriptive answer you can give to that question lol

olive wraith
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Fury has awful st rn though

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Big range to give vague answers to

modest condor
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i love my internet

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dc in the middle of a sentence

junior oyster
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Dadguild aotc lolol

junior oyster
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I didn't know there was a phrase to so succinctly describe my guild

olive wraith
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15s is still good for fury

broken kiln
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Prot is fun tbh

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I like how tough i get

olive wraith
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Ya tough as nails

modest condor
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can always play arms in m+ if you dont like the damage fury is doing

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it's one of the top aoe dps right now

broken kiln
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I hate how arms plays i fear

olive wraith
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There’s heavy repercussions for going prot

broken kiln
olive wraith
modest condor
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badum tss

digital ore
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All specs are good if you are a chill aotc enjoyer.

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Mythic is where it gets nasty

broken kiln
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Unfortunately I was cursed with a competitive spirit

olive wraith
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Well how competitive we talking

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Chasing title?

hot shell
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Reroll to a uhdk already then

digital ore
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Fury is alright in keys but falls off in damage after a while to arms

digital ore
hot shell
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Everything thats fun isnt good, cause Blizzard hates fun

broken kiln
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Ok not title competitive, but I wanna be "good"

digital ore
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What is good for you?

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15s? Pushing further?

broken kiln
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Im not a fotm reroller tho so I get sad when specs I like dont do well

broken kiln
olive wraith
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Fury is totally fine for that

broken kiln
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I just like topping meters tho hahs

digital ore
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You are in warrior discord brother people are not hopium sniffers here dw. But for what you described fury is fine yeah

broken kiln
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I get its a team effort

hot shell
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Fury is fine for 18s and 19s still sooo

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The specc isnt horrid, just not prefered

digital ore
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I personally prefer it to arms

broken kiln
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Well I pug so prolly not

modest condor
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i mean yeah fury is fine but you're also just doing 20% less aoe than arms

olive wraith
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Pug is hard for most specs

lime cape
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is there any fury who is pushing 17+ keys? it feels like something is off for melee range

hot shell
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Pugging is playing your own key 99% of the time. Always has been, always will be. Unless you reroll fotm

fading bane
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ezpz

broken kiln
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I just like the animations for fury

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Surv hunt dw has shitty anims

olive wraith
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Idk if prot would be any easier tbh. Aren’t people too erect for brew rn

broken kiln
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Ive been doing my own key with prot

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Had a pug healer say they loved me after <3

hot shell
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Nah. Prot or fury is literally no difference. In lower keys they dont care. Anything above 15 and chances are u wont get any invites for ages

modest condor
hot shell
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Brew is just sooo far ahead its like other tank speccs dont exist

modest condor
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dagger smf tech yo

broken kiln
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Even on my mage sometimes hard to get invites lol

modest condor
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mage isnt meta right now

broken kiln
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Ik

modest condor
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if you want free invites play aug

broken kiln
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Never do such a thing

olive wraith
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All non meta dps struggle with pug invites

broken kiln
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Ugly Lil dragons

fading bane
hot shell
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Play brewmaster problem solved. Less than 5s queuetime anywhere

fading bane
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survival cranks tho

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topping lura

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every pull

broken kiln
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Oh well

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Ill prot till they buff fury (clueless)

hot shell
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This will not solve your issue, but you better have some ironhard Mentality

broken kiln
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When life gets hard, I get harder

worn yoke
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been doing a simming deep dive today to try and figure out how i can balance stats between fury and arms, and it is becoming apparent sims are liking crit over vers for fury, thoughts? in fact vers is responding very low on sims for both specs

hot shell
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Cause BS and BT love crit, basically

hot shell
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Arms whole Toolkit Revolves around passives that fervor crit.
Bloodthirst build also fervors around crit.
Vers% is hard to get for minimal gain, crit% goes critbleed goes happy fury

olive wraith
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Tldr all stats good

worn yoke
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this^

last cloud
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why am i just seeing weapons and trinkets? i thought you can loot anything from the dungeon?

worn yoke
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i was concerned about not playing arms on fights like paladins so committed to heavily adjusting all my stats - not necessary in the big picture

worn yoke
last cloud
hallow helm
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Orc or Troll for dps inc?

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haste or AP i should say

olive wraith
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Sim but hardly worth changing

hot shell
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Do you really wanna minmax your race monkahmm

olive wraith
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It’s like sub 1% diff

hallow helm
olive wraith
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Orc is the better model

hot shell
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Oh. So tauren it is

olive wraith
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Oh ya

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Tauren 100%

hallow helm
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well Ap/haste is not bad

hot shell
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Panda mechagnome and voidelf are dps bis iirc

olive wraith
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Aoe stop is good

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And Tauren big

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Plus you might have sync issues with on use radials

hot shell
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We like our racials like our trinkets. Passive okayge

olive wraith
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Or Defensive

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Unlike trink

hot shell
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So youre saying.. dwarf

olive wraith
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Nelf also good

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Humans are by far the Bis though

hot shell
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The bis for what exactly

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A stun removal every 3 minutes?
Just dodge stuff and its redundant

olive wraith
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More secondaries

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Plus best model

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Isn’t the racial 2mins btw

fringe citrus
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no

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will to survive is 3 mins

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its better in solo content

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nelf is absolute bis in m+

olive wraith
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Ah, well theres also an occasional mechanic you can use it to bypass

fringe citrus
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yeah

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I personally use it on windrunner spire last boss

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you can skip 2 knock up arrows

olive wraith
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I think there’s been something human racial can cleanse every season since Df? For keys

fringe citrus
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yes

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its nice but doesnt compare to Shadowmeld

olive wraith
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Nelf doesn’t get secondaries though

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And they’re wimps

fringe citrus
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they get 1% crit or haste 🙂

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alternating between night/day

olive wraith
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Humans get it all

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Archi will agree with me

hot shell
# olive wraith Plus best model

Hell no. Humans got the most boring animations out of all them models
Maybe just my perception after playing them for 21 years tho

fringe citrus
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I play human myself , Nelf in m+ is just better 😄

olive wraith
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It really doesn’t matter

hot shell
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Man, i miss the old animations. Those were good.
Shame wod killed em

undone flower
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Gnome purpleface

olive wraith
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Unless you’re title pushing

undone flower
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Gnome remove roots got slight nerf with fearless/berserker rage

fringe citrus
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well I am

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but am stubborn and do it with human

hot shell
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Just remove all racials, problem solved

undone flower
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Agree

modest condor
olive wraith
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Chad

charred flint
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Why cant every fight bê like saladbar

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30 secs cd with a shit Ton of adda

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Damn that was fun

undone flower
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Saladbar would be the worst fight of this tier if vorasius didn’t exist, for me

winter shoal
summer quail
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wat vorasius worst fight? opinion of all time, he's just a dude. it's a completely whatever fight

winter shoal
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Vorasius would be way better if the walls weren't jagged

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Like if they were straight and just appeared jagged

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visual clarity on dragons and paladins is so insanely bad though

undone flower
summer quail
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not done alleria mythic yet but that looks like the worst fight(for melee) even hc alleria is oof....

undone flower
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Im on alleria so i can’t say much rn

winter shoal
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it's joever

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p1 alleria is fine but we have to do some really cringe swapping stuff

summer quail
winter shoal
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it's nbd for me but our rogues are in hell

undone flower
summer quail
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we got 3 melees in our paladin prog. still do not like the fight

undone flower
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I found it OK fight

winter shoal
winter shoal
undone flower
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I don’t like the raid overall at all in this moment in time

winter shoal
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very poggers

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just lose 20s of uptime over the fight

summer quail
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they got long hands

winter shoal
undone flower
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We put dk/ret in a far soak

winter shoal
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we really should but idk I wasn't gonna make a stink about it

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we weren't dying to dps checks anyways

summer quail
undone flower
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Idk about that

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That phrase has been said in these halls every tier

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Since mop

winter shoal
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last tier wasn't too bad for melee was it

summer quail
undone flower
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Dimmy hands purpleface

winter shoal
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tell me one fight designer playtested this as melee

summer quail
undone flower
winter shoal
undone flower
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Orb dies in 2 gcd

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But maybe it’s bc I had 2 bdk we could do it in front

winter shoal
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I played extremely ethical colossus 2t build this week

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Was giga piping bosses before I died to circles I physically couldn't see

smoky vale
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who else were you giga piping

undone flower
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This pov is cursed I agree

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I played fury all bosses - paladins

smoky vale
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well warrior is dead i think

undone flower
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And currently fury on alleria, I will decide another day if I switch arms

summer quail
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can prob do whatever you want on alleria, you're just token battleshout

balmy shore
winter shoal
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This was boss dam for dragons on one of our wipes

balmy shore
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DRAGONS SUCK

winter shoal
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I was doing 157k on our kill pull before I died to circles obscured by dragon wing

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r1 boss dps is 125k btw

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(not mad at all)

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just dodge the circle smile

undone flower
winter shoal
undone flower
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Demolish is a greedy cast I know

winter shoal
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Yeah I think I need to 45 degree angle camera more

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skill issue for sure

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But also literally anyone who played the fight as melee could've told you the visual clarity would be ass

smoky wraith
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yo fellas is there a time when we want 2 mythic weapons and craft something else ? or is the crafted offhand bis ?

balmy shore
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cosmos sucks as melee

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like hard ban

winter shoal
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I actually kinda do mind bc I'm bad at it and it makes me mad, but I don't mind the concept

balmy shore
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lolol

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when we first got to it the shields were SO invisible

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tbh i just die by the sword and leapt to avoid most of it

winter shoal
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Yeah I usually just leap and pray

undone flower
winter shoal
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I have to save DBTS for the 5:00 execution sentence

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because our healers are questionable

winter shoal
undone flower
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i do the leap of faith too

winter shoal
balmy shore
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i was dbts the group soaks -> shields bc that was super sketch

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yeah i think i like paladins bc it's just skill issue

undone flower
charred flint
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the dragons are weird

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cause

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like

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why do we have a 7 minute fight as the fourth boss of tier lmao

astral path
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+15 AA

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10 seconds off completion

winter shoal
astral path
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throw this guy on your blacklist

keen kindle
undone flower
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im too used to have all that on the left hand side

winter shoal
# undone flower okok big mouse guy ?

Nah I only have two side mouse buttons, I just use 1-5, mousewheel up/down, and side mouse buttons, and then ctrl/shift/alt/ctrl+shift mods of those

undone flower
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ctrl is diabolical

winter shoal
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I use the side of my palm to press ctrl

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don't @ me

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using your pinky for ctrl is dastardly behavior

undone flower
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breaking hand behavior pinky ctrl

granite badger
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Any chance anyone here knows or heard if a fury buff is coming this reset?

undone flower
winter shoal
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I have no idea what you mean by that

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pinky on shift, thumb on space, fingers on WAD

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ctrl with the side of my palm

undone flower
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like do you play with your hand slightly closed? bc i don't understand how do you press ctrl with your palm, i have 100% full size keyboard

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like that

winter shoal
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Kind of like this but shifted up+left

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But yeah my fingers are like perpendicular to the keys instead of laying flat

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Well they're normal to the keys because 3d space but you know what I mean

undone flower
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yy

fringe vale
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i put the keyboard in a 45 degree angle like cs players

undone flower
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i play with hand full flat, so that's why i ask

fringe vale
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its sits more naturaly

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on your hand

winter shoal
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That feels like I'd have to internally rotate my shoulder a lot more idk

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I have like only my wrist on the desk tho

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my forearms are on the arms of my chair

fringe vale
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your arm/hand is naturally angled when on a desk, ur arms are never fully stretched so angling ur keyboard enhance ergonomics

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for me at least

sullen dove
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and also bigger because they're buffed

river nimbus
sullen dove
balmy shore
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it's so bad

undone flower
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Im only at p2 so i don’t really see the so bad

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Well we saw p3s ofc but doesn’t count

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Minus playing a dogshit spec

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On the boss

sullen dove
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being able to solo half of the arrows in p2 is gigachad

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the only time i think its supremely cringe is if tank like purposefully walks away from your obelisk when ur aiming down an add p2

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but otherwise should have like 100% uptime contingent on ur prepositioning i thikn

undone flower
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Aiming the triple thingy at the add is annoying but it’s not that big

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Gigachads leap last second to hit the add with the obelisk

balmy shore
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are u lose uptime like crazy

undone flower
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I find it fun tbf

sullen dove
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and/or they die in 1 tight ish stack

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not in like a donut shape

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think was almost always somewhere to stand unless again like melee baiting obby's directly under boss and circle covers his entire area

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which which case melee prepositioning issue

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cluegi

undone flower
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if it's a big dodge i usually can fill with a thunderclap and that's it

teal slate
balmy shore
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our healers and some rdps get aggro so they die weird sometimes

undone flower
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i taunt a lot of those

charred flint
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yeah this dragon fight

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doesnt feel very good huh

undone flower
hybrid cargo
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mages have to be the most trap class in the game

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thats inturpts in pit

frozen scarab
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whats the max you guys are willing to pay for someone to craft a jc for recipe for you

modest condor
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like 2k or something

charred flint
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if they dont ask for money i give them 5k lmao

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if they do i just find soemoen who doesnt

frozen scarab
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yeah they didnt ask for money

odd crater
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I couldn't break over 115k on L'ura

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I'm in shambles

frozen scarab
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how good is arcanoweave lining embellishment

odd crater
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good

frozen scarab
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is it like musthave

quiet geyser
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"We care deeply about this game, and we play it right alongside you. We will do better. " -blizz

clearly not 1 of them plays a fury war >.>

fluid cedar
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Anyone get their bonus roll refund yet

rare fjord
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I intended to jump on the arms boat after reset, but im reading alot of complaints regarding the changes they made to the spec

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so what is the way to go

river nimbus
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depends on the type of content you are doing.

rare fjord
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m+

river nimbus
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both specs easily can go to like +17's

jovial pine
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just random and would love some help, im coming over from arms back to fury for better prog in raid, anyone have decent arc ui i can base it off of? ❤️

grave lantern
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Do we get a catalyst next week?

sweet shard
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hey guys, im in need of a little help

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i cant crack 40k dps

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am i just crap?

visual vale
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Hello!
Im sorry If that question already was asked(tried to search but havent found)
Currently playing M+ Thane Build

Icyveins/method guides a little bit confusing for me(low int)

  1. one guide states "use odyn before ava/reck" other says "use ava/reck then odyn"(opener). What is the difference and what is correct? I was using odyn after ava/reck on pull(feels like right to buff it by ava)

  2. I do understand general prio(do not overcap fury/never keep thunder at 2 charges/keep enrage/ww) stacks. Its ok.

But I cant understand where should be in prio procced execute/or execute on execute phase.
Like, bloodbath/bt->rampage->execute?
Or Bloodbath/bt->execute->rampage?
Should Ive use it immediately off cd, or only if I cannot use bt/rampage/thunder charge?

Sorry if I've made confusing post.

south lintel
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Wait we got two more void cores

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Just woke up xd

south lintel
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Charge, odyn, avatar reck, clap, ramp, clap, bt, clap etc

visual vale
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so odyn lands unbuffed by avatara?

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at pull

south lintel
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I just send it

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I care more about avatar claps

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Aoe huge pack thst shit slaps

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Oh I goy a video

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1 sec

south lintel
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Oh for raid

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Warriors suck in raid unless aoe

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Ill send you a dm

visual vale
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sure thx

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also I know warrior isnt a best pick for raid, i just want to play thane and improve my perfomance

sweet shard
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so is MT much better than slayer?

south lintel
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Its easier

sweet shard
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gotcha

visual vale
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also many adds in raid

south lintel
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I think its slightly lower on dps

sweet shard
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im doing shit dps with both 🙁

south lintel
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Welcome to fury war

sweet shard
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lmao

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i switched from arms

south lintel
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Arns I think is safer

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Not as punishing up time

visual vale
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i did 47k on normal salhadaar in 236 ilvl warrior(its alt)

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dunno if its good or bad, i guess in good ilvl i can do 80-90

south lintel
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I sent you a friend reques5

vast gorge
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i made a hunter and spent about 3 days gearing it and im already doing as much damage as my 280 fury warrior

sullen dove
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why are you pinging me

vivid pollen
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bro is busy

smoky vale
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(he isnt)

sullen dove
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gio is not busy

smoky vale
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help the guy out man

vivid pollen
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bro is not busy

smoky vale
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you are yellow

sullen dove
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running down keys

smoky vale
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i am not

sullen dove
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typing in discord

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you are pink and red

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clown

smoky vale
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wrong

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i am helping a dh in exchange for gold

sullen dove
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right

smoky vale
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i lowered my eky too far

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oops

compact knot
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eky

sullen dove
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oh no it takes doing 2 keys to boost it up 6 levels

smoky vale
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i have a 12 instead of a 13

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hi khazik57

sullen dove
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you may not even hit a sudden death at all during thane cooldowns on aoe

smoky vale
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wow ty swordish the yellow

sullen dove
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stop typing

frozen scarab
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getting declined by 2.1k dogs Rampage

sullen dove
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do your little baby key

sudden tusk
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wow ty swordish57 the yellow

velvet wasp
#

Anyone playing that can join and stream? Would love to see proper rotations.

sullen dove
#

could maybe see if any of the 3 live ppl in top right are playin your spec

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looks like noxiv on fury and gio presumably on arms in m+

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and khaz raiding as presumably arms

gleaming siren
sullen dove
#

actual yappington 5000

magic prairie
#

did you guys notice the sound effect of each skill is like... gone or got clanky?? or is it just me

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its like when I Rampage, the sound it made was way less impactful

dense torrent
pulsar quest
#

Ty

smoky vale
#

i wish that eddie57 guy streamed

pulsar quest
#

Droplets excluded after 12.0.5

smoky vale
#

downtime for damage

pulsar quest
#

Big padders smh...

pulsar quest
#

Maybe when I start my title pushing again

velvet wasp
#

What is the new right rotation?

smoky vale
#

thats a very loaded question sir

#

but the answer can be foudn on wowhead

smoky vale
#

please its a 12

sullen dove
#

or actually nvm dps is too different too seems weird

#

was gonna say parse number could go down because if its like day 2 of a patch and you do a lot better than ppl that killed bosses on tuesday which isnt a lot compared to later raid days, it may look like a parse on the 2nd day of the patch shows as a 95 for example cuz it is a 95 in comparison to all of the logs from only the day before, but when more ppl kill it on wednesday it re-ranks compared to all the ppl that killed on 2nd day too

#

that might somewhat explain the number but tbh have no clue why everyones dps just goes down by like 50%

smoky vale
#

erm

sullen dove
#

like losing void drop pad isnt worth that much

smoky vale
#

did you read what eddie said

sullen dove
#

and removing intermission downtime should boost your dps not reduce it

smoky vale
#

im pretty sure the drops are

#

giga dam

sullen dove
#

the mage is not doing 60k overall fight dps to droplets

#

you are on crack

#

if you think that

#

unfiltered dmg he does 133k

#

rly not sure why he goes down from 180k to 120k

#

and even despite that this kill is still from this wednesday 1-2 days ago like droplets shouldve been excluded in the first picture too

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or does intermission being treated as downtime mean they are now being counted in overall dps and were being excluded before? think that would make no sense if thats the case but tbh idk what they mean when they word it like that but again, still a wednesday kill

smoky vale
#

yo no sabo

lone sand
#

i have a question. If I take the Rampaging Ruin trait, it looks like the damage is higher on simc. Is it the right choice to take this?

fading sky
#

No

#

Not unless u wanna play a loy around it

sullen dove
#

it may be higher aoe dmg on many targets but you lose a lot of single target which is one of the few things we're somewhat reasonable at in m+ retaining ok st dmg and getting lotta aoe in return

fading sky
#

And i presume as slayer

lone sand
#

thx guys

tiny seal
#

Still no bluepost for buffs deadge

vagrant garden
#

are we on a worse situation this season or back in undermine season? (as fury

compact knot
#

in m+ i forgot cause i didnt play fury ngl, but fury isnt bad in m+ right now but is overshadowed by arms but still playable

smoky vale
#

what was teh rotation for that tier

compact knot
#

like always

#

it literally was like the same thing the whole expansion in raid

#

you just push raging blow, rampage and execute

#

sometimes bloodthirst

tiny seal
lusty moss
#

How bad would I be throwing if I played slayer fury on mythic paladins

compact knot
#

very throw

#

could just go slayer arms instead

#

think even with the fob bug both arms hero talents are better then both fury hero talents

#

slayer arms and mt fury might be close idk

lusty moss
#

True. I just hate mt fury some how I am bad at it

rare fjord
#

is the nexus point ring set at mythic better than having 2 other rings with priority stats? The rings always amount for 0,4-0,9% overall

compact knot
#

in raid its very good

#

nexus point ring set is bis until you can get myth l'ura ring

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which the majority of the playerbase will either not get or take very long to get

rare fjord
#

is it worth blowing bonus rolls for voidclaw gauntlets if i dont need trinkets or weapon?

compact knot
rare fjord
#

do tell

worn rain
#

fuck seat

#

amount of worthless loot is abysmal

compact knot
#
  1. We can try and trust blizzard when they say they fixed the duplication bug
  2. You could get it in your vault next week.
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I feel like it's better used

rare fjord
#

2 can be applied to any item at any time

compact knot
#

Yes

#

Do you not need gear from other places?

#

Like myth tier for example

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Or jewelry from certain dungeons

#

Hunting for 1 item for a medium dps increase when you could send them in a different dungeons with 5 items are also medium increases

#

As of right now I think its better to focus on amount of gear > hunting 1 specific piece

stable lion
#

is it just Thane always for M+?

#

or is there ever a reason to do slayer?

worn rain
#

you can do both

compact knot
#

If I know the full context of your character it'll be easier to tell obviously

stable lion
worn rain
#

+15 is still level where you can play any spec

#

at least I feel it that way

limber fractal
#

in what lvl do you think its not worth it?

worn rain
#

0.1% push I think

rare fjord
worn rain
compact knot
#

but uh

#

let me check

rare fjord
#

i mean its not only supposed to be a 2h dung

compact knot
#

yeah

#

ik

rare fjord
#

something that ideally can cover the hero pieces i have

#

in case of a flopped roll

compact knot
#

exactly

#

which is why droptimizer is really good

#

let me check journal tho

#

you ideally want something with leggings

worn rain
#

ye for bonus roll that feature is mvp

sudden tusk
#

prob MT

rare fjord
#

i did a quick journal glance and they all have alotta dead weight

sudden tusk
#

legs/ring/wep

rare fjord
#

also i cant figure if getting a mythic ring would be acceptable for breaking the nexus point set

compact knot
#

magisters seems real good

#

for you

#

it has weapon, legs, cloak boots and a great fury statted ring

#

5/7 items are a hit for you technically

rare fjord
#

i have the first boss chest off a vault

#

does that negate the chance to drop from bonus roll

compact knot
#

no

rare fjord
#

ofc it doesnt...

compact knot
#

id take the 5/7 > a 1/9 of whatever it is in seat

rare fjord
#

oh yeah, i dont have em equipped, but i do have mythic boots in bag. just with worse stats

worn rain
#

1/10

#

lmao

compact knot
#

the boots from magisters have great fury stats

#

seat items like all have vers

#

which isnt great

#

the rings are bricks, the trinket is a brick, boots and belt are a brick and the neck/helm are bricks

#

i think your most efficient dungeon with rerolls right now is 100% magisters though

#

5/7 chance for something good with good stats vs a 2/10 from seat

rare fjord
#

alright then, MT it is

compact knot
#

you want to work on the biggest slots which you have most of them filled in except for legs and weapon which magisters has

#

meanwhile seat has some medium and low tier items like gloves and wrists

#

just cross your fingers and pray

vivid pollen
#

pit of saron is a good one if u arms

#

but this is the fury channel

#

I'll see myself out

compact knot
#

i lost a 5/8 roll then a 5/7 roll from pit as a arms woyer

#

good thing im getting refunded though xdd

rare fjord
#

got crit mastery mythic boots from chimerus. Just wont have the crests on them for a while

compact knot
#

those are aight

rare fjord
#

and i was on the fence whether the ring was worth breaking the nexus set bonus

#

hence why MT didnt seem like such a slam dunk at first

compact knot
#

its really a sim question

#

if you sim a droptimizer itll just tell you upfront which dungeons are the most efficient for you

rare fjord
#

what kind of boss and fight length should i run it with

copper topaz
#

What kind of refund are you talking about guys?

compact knot
rare fjord
#

am i doing something wrong or does droptimiser only considers weapon and trinkets

#

because it competely ignores any leg and ring drops in the comparison

compact knot
#

can you send me your simc string

#

the thing you copy from ingame when you type /simc @rare fjord

#

i can do the sim for u

rare fjord
#

sent

nova vessel
#

just used a bonus roll on npx and got the cloak rip

hasty rover
#

I used mine on chimerus -- the boots dropped, didn't get them -- but got them on the bonus roll

#

No trinket for mee

somber elk
#

are you guys also having problems with patching battlenet?

brave thorn
#

Did they give back the x2 bonus rolls to everyone who spent them before Thursday morning already?

south lintel
#

With rng you could be full mythic

jolly ingot
#

Eu bonus rolls refunded?

austere lake
#

Came back to midnight few days ago, how much better is thane fury compared to slayer?

sullen dove
#

and pit is still a 5/8

pearl sequoia
#

we stay losing

fading sky
brave thorn
#

I’m going to be frank, 3 shit vaults, cloak and boots bonus roll ( already had mythic boots) no gaze no mythic weapon, im not mad at a refund with this shit rng.

tiny seal
#

Dont the guys who spend after the "fix" get ultra fckd tho? KEKW

#

because people who spend on wednesday or before the fix get double the rolls

smoky vale
#

grr

sullen dove
#

they at worst are like even with the people who get the worst luck but yeah in general it’s like 90% negative if u didn’t spend anything

tiny seal
#

glad i blasted mine out on wednesday

sullen dove
#

the bad case for if u did spend some, is you try to roll whatever you spent your early coins on and you might still get the same item(s) you rolled again

tiny seal
#

surely i wont get cloak after i 3 rolled pos

#

with 2 bonus again

sullen dove
#

but the better and frankly more likely case probably is you just get something different and you just have extra rolls to try

#

absolute best case scenario tho is using ur roll and winning whatever item u wanted the first time

#

u spend 2 coins to get mythic gaze out of raid? Gratz u get 2 more coins back and get a free trinket

tiny seal
sullen dove
#

pretty big disparity between the winners and the losers

#

there was nothing to reset cuz it was never being tracked

#

that was the issue

tiny seal
#

ugh

sullen dove
#

they have no way of telling who got what for the last two days

smoky vale
#

there probably was

#

just too much work to do so

#

like no one wants to do that shit

sullen dove
#

yea they’d have to do their job for more than like 5 minute so unlikely

tiny seal
#

wat?? how do they not know who got what the last days

#

wtf

smoky vale
#

but why would they

sullen dove
#

Feel like it should show up on item restoration and could make inferences or something

#

but that was in their post

smoky vale
#

if they can be lazy and do this instead

sullen dove
#

It wasn’t properly linked to a database it was supposed to

#

cuz live wow is diff than testing server wow

smoky vale
#

can you pls answer my dm gup

sullen dove
#

I am not answering some meaningless dm man

#

sim if you want to waste crests I don’t care

brave thorn
#

Myth crest is still capped anyhows, it’s not that disastrous

tiny seal
smoky vale
#

i asked a srs question

tiny seal
#

so if i spend 3 rolls do i get all 3 back or just the 2 from the quest

#

3 would be insane

smoky vale
#

you get nothing back

#

too late to do anything now

sullen dove
#

if you spent them before the bug fix u presumably get all 3 but maybe it’s just capped at two to not be so op

tiny seal
#

yea thats what i meant

sullen dove
#

I think return of 2 more than fair

#

3 would be kind of absurd

tiny seal
#

yea think so too

smoky vale
#

or give everyone including those who didnt spend 2

sullen dove
#

but everyone that didn’t spend one should prolly also just get +1

#

significant disparity

smoky vale
#

nah give everyone 2

tiny seal
#

but my greedy ass still thought about it

sullen dove
#

No cuz now the people with 4 this week are ahead

smoky vale
#

otherwise there is a disparity

sullen dove
#

cuz they get 4 unbugged rolls

smoky vale
#

what

sullen dove
#

where early spenders can use 4 rolls and get 2-3 of the same item

smoky vale
#

wouldnt my way make it so everyone is even

#

make it so everyone has 4 instead of 2

sullen dove
#

You spend 2 before bug fix, get 2 algethar rings

#

after fix, return two rolls, do alg again, you could get another ring

#

you let someone with 4 rolls do alg now they will only get 1 ring

#

4 unbugged too strong but 1 extra is fine to make it 3 I think

smoky vale
#

just let me go to a vendor and get full bis ty

sullen dove
#

Basically what u be sayin

tiny seal
#

full bis still 15k behind dh

sullen dove
#

But I think 1 extra for non spenders is an ok middle ground

#

make up for ppl that can win hard on the rng with 4 rolls this week but some ppl that have 4 will also just lose really hard still

#

But even “losing” with 4 rolls you’re still almost guaranteed better off than just having 2 unbugged rolls going forward

#

Just 1-2 extra myth pieces for fun

#

Regardless they said what they’re gonna do so doubt non spenders will get an extra roll anyway

#

just think it would make sense/be the most fair

cursive sierra
#

did they give the rolls already

sullen dove
#

prolly not imagine it’ll take a few days

cursive sierra
#

ok ty

vestal root
#

good morning i hope everyone is looking handsome n cute today

granite badger
#

yo gm lads, any chance anyone here knows if we gonna get any buff this reset or week or anything? any leaks? as fury? i am so so sad about our situation.

zenith bridge
#

Hello everyone. I just finished leveling my warrior is it still good to craft a weapon or is it to late now, and I should craft any low level item instead?

tiny seal
#

everybody is ranting on comments etc but dunno if blizz cares tbh

#

as you can see with dh dk buffs keks

worn rain
granite badger
#

fury needs desperately a buff like a big one....outlaw gains 13% and its capped at 8 (soft cap) we are at 5 and SOME abilities at (soft cap) 8 like idk...

dusty flicker
#

we could use a minimum of 4% buff

#

but blizz thinks devourer and uh needs buff

granite badger
#

i am thinking of more of a 10%

tiny seal
#

i also thought of 10- max 15%

#

to make us competitive

#

especially in higher keys like yuki plays

#

but of course mainly in raid where we are horrible as we know

slim coral
#

its never too late really

#

bonus rolls however do give you a pretty good chance at myth track weapon once you do a +10 as an fyi

sick pagoda
zenith bridge
sick pagoda
#

bonus rolls best thing since sliced bread for non mythic raiders

slim coral
zenith bridge
sick pagoda
#

I think this is the way yes

#

still a mystery? how many of the upgraded thingys we will get and how we will get em? so upgrading offhand is maybe not the highest prio?

#

Mainhand -> trinkets -> ? offhand or major amor piece?

vague stump
granite badger
lost reef
#

I think you will be only able to upgrade trinkets and weapons

#

not major armor pieces

sick pagoda
#

Ah

tiny seal
# granite badger bottom on dps fak me

fury shines in cleave and consistent add fights, problem is that everyhting dies in 1 sec because everybody is overloaded and also fury is kinda bad on dmg

#

raid feels horrible

granite badger
vague stump
#

yeah was saying this yesterday the one job fury can do we cant because of dev DH pretty much

tiny seal
#

lura eg

sick pagoda
#

there are like a ton of better add killers than us in raid

tiny seal
#

progged yesterday and the crystal just fcking die in 3 sec

sick pagoda
#

if we had a way to just go all in ST and be OK at that it would be the way

tiny seal
#

and you cant even ramp your dmg up because of mm hunters, dh etc

sick pagoda
#

but sadly we cant

vague stump
#

although I do expect some RB aura buff

#

which will make no diff at all but I expect it

granite badger
#

i think we need buff flat 10% aura on all abilites and such that would make us really okish

sick pagoda
#

our parses also suck since we are compared to kills where warrior got to pad

granite badger
#

do we know when they will tune?

vague stump
#

lol I was saying this yesterday unless you were one of the early prog furys ur logs are shit

tiny seal
sick pagoda
#

If you have some S tier deveourer and balance people in the guild and also devs I thikn? good luck getting pad

#

blink and you miss it

tiny seal
#

usually things are announced on friday for the next reset but can also happen any other time we dont know

vague stump
#

like I was looking at my chim log yesterday and I had 12% dmg to adds look at rank 1 log he had 22% dmg to adds

stoic loom
vague stump
#

I legit get 2 globals then smallies come up and up top phase I am not allowed to hit them

#

because of cross over dmg

#

fuck off man lol

south lintel
#

The apm is kinda crazy

#

I feel like an idiot hitting 90 buttons a minute to do 50k dps

south lintel
#

Jk not thst low in just qq

vague stump
#

carpel tunnel for boss dmg is a great trade off

south lintel
#

Lmfao

vague stump
#

tank dmg sorry*

sick pagoda
#

I mean what can they do to just fix ST though? Auto Attack dmg? would ffeel bad man

vague stump
#

the thing is the way the class is played its completely fucked

#

because if they give us the single buff we need

sick pagoda
#

or if only hitting one target gains x% dmg

vague stump
#

aoe is busted

tiny seal
#

they nerfed our auto attack dmg in midnight prepatch so

vague stump
#

we are just fucked until something gets reworked

sick pagoda
#

I mean at this point they could just remove RB and take the CD of BT and tune accordingly and make it do more dmg when hitting 1 target or something

#

and maybe make the RB talents into some ST stuff

#

so you can balance

normal forge
#

Is crucible good as a starter trinket until gaze ?

sick pagoda
#

Id go delve

#

HC delve trinkets are quite good

vague stump
#

yeah we aint getting a rework until new season at a minimum I expect some RB aura buff and maybe reap chance up to 25% for slayer

south lintel
#

Yo let's buf dk and dh aoe some more

#

So they can time 24z

normal forge
#

I want to try fury but i dont have good gear for it (1k crit 800 haste and 400 mast) what should i farm ?

sick pagoda
#

for m+ its fine

#

for raid we are dog

vague stump
#

those are arms stats if I have ever seen them

normal forge
#

Yeah i play arms but in M+ we dont have sham

south lintel
#

Has anyone gotten there void orbs yet

vague stump
#

so if ur arms then stay arms

#

25% extra aoe for abit less single is omega worth

normal forge
#

What your ST like ?

#

I'm averaging 55k-60k without sham

#

As arms i mean

sick pagoda
#

IMO arms is overrated for regular players.. People just look at biz and think this is arms

#

its not

#

getting good damage as arms is way harder than fury in m+

vague stump
#

in keys normally 75ish boss dmg overall

normal forge
#

15-20k more is nothing to scoff at

vague stump
#

but I am like 280

normal forge
#

I'm 273, i dont have all the good gear yet

vague stump
#

tbh col arms is kinda hard to play agree but the demo change does change quite alot and makes it easier

#

as you just send on CD now rather than 10 stacks only

normal forge
#

True true, still feels a bit clunky especially in ST

#

Aoe i'm a god, ST? sykes

young needle
#

guys, we using crit haste?

sick pagoda
#

we using simcraft

vague stump
#

yeah single is hard to optimise but tbh just gap so much in aoe and build comps around boss dmg thats what I do when I play arms

#

ill just ele sham instead of resto and get rogue instead of ferral

normal forge
#

Which rogues is the best in ST ?

#

Assa or sub? I know outlaw are more like consistent AOE

vague stump
#

think assa is good no?

normal forge
#

I'd say yeah

#

But without sham buff i'm soooo behind in ST as col arms

#

Its insane tbh

#

When i have the buff i'm 65k-70k

vague stump
#

you need sham for warrior

#

even fury skyfury is too big to not have one

normal forge
#

Mmm

#

Hope i get a sham to play with me then

stoic loom
vague stump
#

just get ur healer to play resto if not pug ur own keys and build phys comps

stoic loom
#

aura buff our damage by 10% but reduce cleave damage by 5%

vague stump
#

would 10% even be enough at this stage tho

#

I think its 15%

stoic loom
#

10% would be a start

vague stump
#

which aint ever gonna happen

stoic loom
#

and make us at least a little competitive

#

15% would probably not make us broken tho

#

seeeing as im currently beating the rets and warlocks in guild for boss parses but still being 20-25% damage behind

bitter palm
#

ye i mean cause they are padding

#

they outsim u by 15%

#

on st

stoic loom
#

like on chimaerus i got a 96 with 54k boss dps

#

and my ret homie got a 90 with 64k

shut tusk
#

how far is slayer bheind thane in keys?

vestal root
#

both are playable its a lot about how the tank pulls

#

thane is the safer choice

fringe citrus
#

I started playing around with slayer in 15s

#

I dont think its any closer to thane

patent sun
#

@fringe citrus

tribal dagger
#

gaze heroic worth trying to roll? i mean its still better than everything on mythic, but 2 mythic upgrades from keys sounds better no?

fringe citrus
#

do you have it in lower tier?

#

if not you should gamble yes, its turbo bis

dense elbow
#

It is basically a HC boss on mythic

tribal dagger
#

yeah i was sideeying some mythic raids, but everyone only wants ce

#

I've seen guides, and this boss should be pugable

dense elbow
#

I got in with 1/? HC, you will be fine

tribal dagger
#

okay ill save my rolls then and look out for it this week

unreal onyx
#

There's like 1 different mechanic and with that one you just stand on a mark

wary thistle
#

Yo, is it a good idea to spend voidcore for a second myth weapon and replace my crafted weapon to a crafted neck ?

unreal onyx
#

That's gonna be the play for me next week i think

#

Recraft embell on cloak or whatever is my lowest, hold until I roll a 2nd weap from m+ or vault

tardy lark
#

if you can pick whatever to put crests towards, going from 289+285crafted to 2x 289 and then crafting a low budget slot like cloak isnt that good. If you can put crests towards myth track chest/legs/helm or trinkets its probably better

#

you can figure out your choices and test them out in a top gear sim

wary thistle
#

Okay, i see, thanks

vestal root
#

bruh did hc beloren onephase p2

#

bruh fury st

#

im surprised i wasnt kicked

twilit crag
#

Fury st is better than arms st for beloren ?

vestal root
#

not really no

#

beloren is st/2t which is great for arms slayer

#

mythic i dont know

#

im sure someone here can tell me whos actually good at the game unlike me

fickle abyss
#

Aleria beloren lura

#

= warrior on bench

vestal root
#

warrior in coffin more like

tardy lark
#

warrior ok on l'ura, especially after MM was killed and UH DK is bugged to shit ratge

vestal root
#

yep just need other specs being bugged we can compete trust

lusty jungle
#

warriors own

vestal root
tardy lark
#

arms is pretty good on L'ura even before specs were bugged af

delicate rock
#

Buffs Inc today boys, dont worry. The AI balancing Team is cooking something big for us

vestal root
#

everyone is getting buffed

lusty jungle
#

Dear Claude, I wrote you a letter

vestal root
#

return to sender + pipe bomb

fickle stirrup
#

Idk what's worse. Fury this season or that one season in DF where we only got to do damage like every 1min30sec

fading sky
#

This

#

Having burst owns

delicate rock
#

Atleast beeing op every 1.30m is a niche

#

Beeing shit all time is not

fading sky
#

This

#
  • burst always bettrt
spare steppe
#

Burst just feels good

vestal root
#

problem is that arms is "better" but still shit

#

so you cant even swap specs and feel better about it

#

yeah colo owns in aoe for m+ but ST is criminal

delicate rock
#
  • arms plays like dogshit, specially without a shaman
vestal root
spare steppe
#

Oh god the shaman is so needed

delicate rock
#

Ye...

supple glen
#

wrong arms is better

spare steppe
#

It’s 12% damage for colossus, it’s wild

delicate rock
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Without a shaman your just gambling for rage

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Peak design

supple glen
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gameplaywise*

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the rage thing is true

vestal root
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🗿

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ravager sure does rock wow....

fickle stirrup
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And even Arms Slayer felt like shit

supple glen
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yeah ravager is big lame but bs isnt great either..afk for 3 sec big gameplay

fickle stirrup
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Better than Colo but still ass

vestal root
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bs is cool though

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nice audio nice visual

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big

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spiiiiiiin

supple glen
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bro ur afk

delicate rock
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Bs is boring from a gameplay perspectiv but it feels good and thats all that matters in the end

supple glen
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thats true it beats ravager

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but bar is low

delicate rock
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True lmao

vestal root
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you aint pressing shit during demolish either

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like the argument is wack

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its a channeled ability that deals nice dmg

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spamming cleave during ravager isnt much of a gameplay either

supple glen
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when is that voidcore refund suppoed to happen btw

vestal root
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maybe reset?

robust viper
supple glen
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abuse early abuse often bro

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tbh i fucked up this time by not reading a guide too

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xdd

vestal root
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i held mine and i dont care that i did

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people whining about it now is funny

robust viper
supple glen
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didnt know it fucking takes two so i threw in a cheeky HC gaze roll.. in fury spec..got vestige. was embarassing

vestal root
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i got gaze luckily

supple glen
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it woulda been gaze on prot 100%

molten plover
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Maybe we need to do shitstorm like dks

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?

vestal root
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they are bugged

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we are just shit

molten plover
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Close discord ?

vestal root
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never gonna happen

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warrior players love suffering

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we cant even agree on what would a rework be like

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doomed class

brave thorn
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Next season, ST to the moon. Zero aoe

supple glen
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ya complaining is half the fun

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tbf i just played retail warrior bc i always played it in classic

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its quite different but the complaining and neglection of the class is universal

vestal root
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there are big posts about dk, hunters, etc

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none about warriors being so garbage

supple glen
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i mean its not garbo garbo

vestal root
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like id love to make one myself but im nowhere near as good to write a big post about all the issues and fixes

modest wave
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saying classic warrior is neglected is a wild statement

supple glen
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getting invites is a bit harder bc its not meta

fading sky
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I also want refund

supple glen
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you should get em no?

fading sky
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2 chsrs

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🤣

supple glen
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it kinda said everyone who spent them already

fading sky
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I still wanna complain bad rng

vague stump
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can we get archi to do a wowhead news post about fury boss dmg

fading sky
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I got a chest i had, and feet i had. Sadly bonus roll only depends on rolls not items allready in inv

vague stump
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then maybe wow dev sees it and we get a buff

supple glen
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nah cata and mop was fine ur right

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but it was fun to see warriors complaining in mop classic when they are the best class if you add banner dmg to their bar on logs

sour thicket
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Hey Guys. Im a little confused about crafting. I can see in guides that for Fury they prefering a polearm and for arms the sword. What should i craft if i want to play both spec?

vestal root
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you can make whatever 2h it doesnt matter

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most ppl make 2h sword

fading sky
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Sword

fading sky
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Always

tardy lark
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weapon types doesnt matter as damage ranges are normalized