#fury

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left peak
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Yeah that comes natuarlly, I dont think there are many times fury is in a situation where rage is a problem.

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Risk of overcapping is higher

earnest tiger
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I don't understand the question then,
if you follow the prio list, it is correct that you ramp below 100 rage - just because there is a line to prio ramp over 100 rage doesn't mean that it's bad when you are below 100 rage if the other higher prio abilities (dependent on spec/in vs out of CDs) are not available

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Like literally every situation is just covered by that list, if highest prio condition isn't met, go next on the list, until you press something

and ramp < 100 rage is not at the bottom of the list

brittle tinsel
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Hi, is there an Excel spreadsheet, website, or other way to compare the stats of two teams without having the team information? I understand that Raidbots exists, but I want to compare these two teams and understand why.

echo scarab
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Execute perfect rotation, still tank damage

left peak
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The question was if you read correctly, if there is something else behind the ''100 rage'' mentioned all the times besides rage management. Thought I missed a talent.

echo scarab
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😭

echo scarab
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It doesn’t explain why in any prior chart it just says DO IT

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And rampage costs 80 not 100 so it makes sense to wonder what conditional exists for it

earnest tiger
echo scarab
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It would be more clear if it said “rampage over 100 to prevent overcapping rage”

thorny pier
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Hi, stupid question here, sometimes in reck windows bloodbath procs like 3-5 times in a row without a real CD. Which talent is this tied to?

echo scarab
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But still tank damage

thorny pier
low marten
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Burst of Power to be precise

left peak
echo rapids
brittle tinsel
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585 / 474 crit
960 / 940 cele
922 / 1051 mastery

Left or right ?

rotund geyser
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what trinkets are they using

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left

echo rapids
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The answer is to sim your character and do what it says

brittle tinsel
digital mauve
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might switch ret, how is it compared to fury ? I dont wanna play arms

brittle tinsel
echo rapids
hushed walrus
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We love suffering not a single one fucking boss with slayer still 13 weeks spamming thunder clap before next suffering

tardy lark
fickle vector
tardy lark
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but theres no plug n play way to do it

echo rapids
earnest tiger
# brittle tinsel (Is literally comparation in stats in wowhead bis gear / maxroll bis gear )

The answer is to throw both sets of items in the sim and check

Kinda scuffed easy way to do it is just to manually add all the items in top gear, deselect all of your items, run the sim (for a couple fight styles), write down the numbers, do the same for the other set and compare - bear in mind you'll also need to know what setup they use for flask/potion/gems or also sim a variety of those

echo rapids
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Even thane is a little more complicated than ret and fury is straightforward

fickle vector
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💯

tardy lark
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you can set up a "wowhead" character and a "maxroll" character in an advanced sim, set their stats and the apl used to compare it if you dont want a roundabout way

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check out the simc documentation if thats your thing

supple glen
tardy lark
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if not, theres only the scuffy way Ceece mentioned above xd

echo rapids
supple glen
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lame

echo rapids
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Feels comparable to UDK

digital mauve
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Also everyone been telling me ret does more ST and MT than fury

echo rapids
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Ret is better damage than fury right now

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Although I feel like Ret is a perpetual middle of the pack spec

honest trail
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So is Reap on Rampage procs bugged or what atm?

brittle tinsel
digital mauve
echo rapids
compact siren
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@oblique trail state of warrior and Hosen status?

honest trail
echo rapids
oblique trail
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No hosen equipped rn though, my last pair combusted

balmy shore
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warrior feels bad to play in raid

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and i love warrior

tardy lark
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rorrior is ass to play regardless of build

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but that goes for most classes i feel

compact siren
supple tangle
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If you take rampaging ruin as slayer, what talent do you trade for it?

tardy lark
balmy shore
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hell yea

twilit harbor
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took a gamble and decided to hunt gloves with my rerolls

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first try ez

prisma abyss
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hi peeps is wowheads bis tier list relevant? in case of this finger

river nimbus
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sim it

fading sky
balmy shore
prisma abyss
tardy lark
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now they killed MM as well i hear xdd

river nimbus
echo rapids
frank dawn
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MM still has some bugs too, but less than they had on PTR

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well tested patch btw

echo rapids
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MM been asking for explosive shot back

frank dawn
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no sacrifice in quality btw

echo rapids
tardy lark
balmy shore
tardy lark
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wcyd

balmy shore
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yeah that’s kinda how i felt halfway through

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it feels bad

frank dawn
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tuning notes on friday for sure keks

balmy shore
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i always play warrior but even this tier i’m like… yikes…

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this is the least i’ve played fury

tardy lark
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i played 5 bosses as fury, 6th as arms and asked guild not to give me pity vaults rest of tier

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just let me afk or reroll

frank dawn
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Don't worry guys, they buffed all 5 of the meta comp classes. Makes total sense to nerf Fury as part of that.

vast token
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Rend gang rise up 🔥

languid willow
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well tbf i think the fury nerf was only for slayer

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but still unwarrented

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but im pretty sure the only boss you're going ST slayer on is legit voracius? even then there is an argument to playing thane for adds

frank dawn
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Thane is not good either tho lol

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unless you're in some random group that you get to solo adds or something on the bosses

languid willow
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my team knows i'll just do add duty and we leave our dev's/dks on boss dmg

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so its fine for me but i could see how in other teams that is not easy to tell them to leave adds to just locks and warrior

prisma abyss
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help out warrior brethren xD

languid willow
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sim plat band

fiery edge
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recommend rerolling to devourer

languid willow
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if not a dps increase then just take the free myth rerol

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but just ask the robot man

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it never lies

fiery edge
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only blizz lies

languid willow
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if you dont have a myth heart solarflare is a good replacment as well

prisma abyss
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ive got HC gaze and Myth puzzle

supple glen
languid willow
frozen nacelle
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what settings you guys use for sim for m+?

languid willow
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I just do 1 target 5 min

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and 8 target 2 min

spare steppe
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Sims

unreal onyx
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@dense elbow vault + ilvl check

prisma abyss
prisma abyss
unreal onyx
dense elbow
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I am 281 Hydrate fr fr

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After vault, new crafted item and bonus roll loot, I will likely not be lying

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LFR trinky soon gone yep

unreal onyx
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surely I get vorasius one today

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other than that, im at least full heroic

autumn harbor
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dumb question but are we still clapping in m+ or are we slaying?

unreal onyx
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clappa

autumn harbor
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ty

spare steppe
fiery edge
prisma abyss
honest dirge
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jo guys. are we still playing BT?

dense elbow
uneven path
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For me its more like 2% then 20%

dense elbow
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Not played it yet, just got off work

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From testing it feels fine

uneven path
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Hmmm kk

polar narwhal
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I miss BT proccing Reap :(

dense elbow
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You might want to slam on a dummies for 5 min, see if you got the right ish proc rate expected

Just remember to log it, and remember to not press execute

dense elbow
static mountain
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idk i feel like slayer fury is officially dead. aoe burst is higher. everything else is lower.

dense elbow
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Dead, nah. Could get a ST focused buff? For sure

Buff exe another 20% and we will get there ish

spare steppe
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Or RB

dense elbow
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Nah, RB isnt Slayer focused

spare steppe
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since RB is barely better than WW in aoe if st all

dense elbow
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Exe is

spare steppe
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Tbh RB isn’t good for either spec

static mountain
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and increase rts chance to 30% from ramp

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or make it per target hit up to 5 😄

dense elbow
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Nah

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Slayer is about burst moments, so SD and storm

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Feel free to increase reap dam tho

spare steppe
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Harder hitting executes would be nice though

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It’s such a wet noodle for an execute

dense elbow
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Yep

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Exe is the most neat fix they could do

spare steppe
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The real dream I have is the axing of anger management and buffing recklessness

dense elbow
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Nah, I like AM

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Reck atm is strong enough for a short CD ability

red berry
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buff deep wounds and buff execute

dense elbow
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Why deep wounds? We dont really need more AoE dam focus

rare garnet
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Both specs have the same and dog ST. Just buff AA by 900%. Fixed.

dense elbow
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That is a fix

rare garnet
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Not the best fix but the easiest

dense elbow
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Would also grants rb build more value

rare garnet
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And blizz isn’t gonna work on us

dense elbow
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I mean, safest for em is to just buff exe. Reinforces our niche as THE execute class. Ppl love executes hitting hard. SD procs are more exciting.

Wins all around

supple glen
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blizz trying to tell me something as fury

dense elbow
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I dont get the joke

supple glen
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new warrior classquest

dense elbow
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I dont get it

tight roost
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Is there any point in slayer at this moment?

vestal root
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fun and vibes

dense elbow
vestal root
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is there any point in fury?

dense elbow
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Fun

vestal root
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other than personal reasons

lucid solar
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Guys i need realy a help. After losing Weak Auras in Midnight expansion my DPS its a shit....

I dont want even talk about logs -.- my dps its about 3-6%

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1mwXH3AnYvjptgT6?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=18

Did i doing something wrong, missing or something i need help guys!

Everyone warrior its better than me...

What rotation i use?

Charge > Blodthirst or Rampage > Thunder Clap/Thunder Blast > Trinket + Flask > Avatar + Recklessness > Rampage > Bloodbath > Rampage > Thunder Blast > Odyns Fury and over again depend of RAGE and avilables.

I`m trying to not overstack the Rage and always use Bloodbath, Burst always used when avilable. Im trying to wath on Scent of Blood for Blodbath/Bloodthirst and Rampaging Berserker. And i always try to not lose a Enrage.

And thats all. Anyone can explaim me why im so pice of sh...?

paper hemlock
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is there any point in world of warcraft?

dense elbow
onyx belfry
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what are u guys craftin this week

dense elbow
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Neck, probs

onyx belfry
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sim says neck but crit mastery guess im doing that

spare steppe
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Probably neck since I’l get boots from chimaeras

dense elbow
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Buy BoE boots

lucid solar
dense elbow
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Gl

spare steppe
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I mean I’m gonna be using my rerolls to get trinket and it’s gonna fail twice

dense elbow
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Twice? Thrice! U forgot it gonna bug

spare steppe
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Don’t you put that evil on me

dense elbow
vestal root
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i wish i could try mythic chimaerus

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nobody wants me though

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m+ life it is

rare garnet
# lucid solar Guys i need realy a help. After losing Weak Auras in Midnight expansion my DPS i...

Tell tank to pull bigger. Yell at healer because you’re using globals on healing. Convince yourself everyone else is the problem and you’ll never feel sad about your performance. I would have parsed better if the tank pulled better. I would have parsed better if the healer would heal me. I would have parsed better if I had the right trinket. I would have parsed better but RNG fucked me. See. Feels good to be a gamer.

dense elbow
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Who is chinarus?

vestal root
dense elbow
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Is that the chicken thing, the dream god?

vestal root
dense elbow
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A mount, yuck

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Pass

spare steppe
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Chimmy is fun

vestal root
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i wish i knew, hc hell it is

spare steppe
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Well definitely kill him this week

vestal root
dense elbow
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Just make your own group, fill it with 280s

spare steppe
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If I could reach the ranged how to use their interrupts that is

lucid solar
vestal root
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considering it but i didnt do it yet even if 2 new mechanics look like something i dont care about

dense elbow
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Doesnt matter

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The others will carry

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Just divide raid in two, that is your only job. Then write "group 1 and 3 first"

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There you go, 3min kill

vestal root
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🫡

dense elbow
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Well, mythic i gonna PuG this week, wish me luck

terse ether
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I still dont understand how we get the bonus rolls 😄

vestal root
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weekly quest from decimus

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once finished 6 times you get option to pay one way to get 2 rolls

terse ether
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ah, it seems I already did that

spare steppe
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I would recommend not using it at dungeons this week

rare garnet
spare steppe
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Cuz blizzard did blizzard things

scarlet swift
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warriors only orange parse when aoe goes in their favor, thats all it is

vestal root
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i mean you can orange parse anyways but your orange can be lower than a devourers grey parse

fringe vale
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St is cursed for warriors

spare steppe
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If there’s more than 6 mobs you should be heavily prioning TC

terse ether
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and we cannot use voidforge yet so the 2 quests are waiting for nextt week

fringe vale
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And your guildies need to be conscious about it for adds positioning in certain fights so you can blast dmg

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If your guild doesn’t care about you getting better parses

valid pulsar
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crazy how dogshit slayer is

fringe vale
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Ure cooked, ask for it on rekills of uber-farmed bosses

fringe vale
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Even the gameplay feels ass

valid pulsar
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i just hate the rng behind it

fringe vale
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Like thane feels great compared to slayer

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In any content

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Demo feels great compared to d’ayer for arms in any content also

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Slayer is just doodoo

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Redesign that shit

valid pulsar
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yeah they really did slayer dirty this tier

fringe vale
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Im not talking dmg wise just how it plays

valid pulsar
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exactly

fringe vale
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Thane plays great and so does demo

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Slayer is ass dog

sly eagle
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I find the slayer gameplay a lot more fun than thane

valid pulsar
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what

sly eagle
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so the trash damage really sucks

valid pulsar
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singletarget its fine still feels ass crack if you dont get any proccs

vestal root
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arms slayer feels better

echo rapids
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All 9 mythic bosses have a devourer DH in the top 5 parses

vestal root
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buff them

echo rapids
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That’s kinda wild

vague stump
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I know whats a real smart idea guys lets nerf slayer fury and buff unholy DK and dev DH

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sounds omega smart no

vestal root
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it is smart

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who gives a fuck about warriors

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we keep playing and dooming

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we dont unsub or reroll

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like beaten wives we come back

vague stump
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im even worse because I refuse to play arms

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I am thane enjoyer for the whole season it seems

vestal root
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many refuse to

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its fine

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if thane can clear +20s you good

fringe vale
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Compared to demo playability

vestal root
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demo lock?

vague stump
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yeah should be able to do 20s by the end of the season

fringe vale
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Demolisher/colossus mb

vestal root
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colo is even more jank

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3 cds that arent aligned

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lol

vague stump
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I think AA is the hardest by a a mile

fringe vale
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It feels more fluids

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I just don’t like not having ava on slayer

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Its ass

vestal root
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rend is mandatory, rage starvation can happen

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like, defo not fluid

rare garnet
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I don’t mind slayer arms in ST completely. I’m still a slam hater and their aoe feels gross to me.

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Like if I just tunneled boss in ST I could probably fuck with it

vestal root
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on arms you kinda do most times

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you dont have pad CDs except bladestorm

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most raids i play ST arms i ignore lot of small adds on some fight why bother

vague stump
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when my G asks me to play arms for paladins I am gonna tell them to get another hunter and ill sit on the bench

vestal root
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they get deleted anyways

supple glen
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you sound like someone with a guild

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pug raiders cant afford to play properly

vestal root
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me or rekzw? my guild is just few friends i pug most times

supple glen
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you

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still

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ok fair

odd crater
vestal root
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i mean if you wanna be playing properly you wont play warrior this tier

supple glen
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but i need to pass the logcheck

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i dont tbh bc i want to actually kill shit

vestal root
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you can get orange on warrior, and still be bottom of barrel dps

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thjats the issue

vague stump
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1 button it

odd crater
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I'm just a sucker for bladestorm, I love me some twirls

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And I out-performed our Thanes, but got beat out by our Arms warrior

vague stump
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I mean its the probably only fight now you could maybe play slayer

vestal root
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which fight

vague stump
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pallys

vestal root
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on fury you defo go thane

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arms ehhhh sure i guess if you are just not comfy with colo? but like colo is so much more dmg

vague stump
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oh deffo but I mean thats legit the only fight you could do it without omega griefing

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I dont play arms

vestal root
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thane is way better though because sustained aoe

cedar geyser
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This season may get me to finally reroll a healer

vestal root
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if i ever have that thought im quitting wow

cedar geyser
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Based

lapis breach
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If I use a bonus roll in heroic raid will I get myth track or hero? 🫠

odd crater
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I just rolled Prot and slowly going that route. lewl

vague stump
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meanwhile we have ret paladin

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great aoe great single

vestal root
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ret is just such a snoozer

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genuinely boring

supple glen
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they dont want to exclude ret players

desert dirge
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This spec is such a joke 💢
the difference in parses is how much did you fucking pad. Thats all of it.

supple glen
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ret is tuned to be good with one button rotation

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so if you play properly its insane

supple glen
scarlet swift
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Well fuck me for playing the game...they nerfed it already...

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never again, those are tough as fuck

desert dirge
supple glen
scarlet swift
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It was yesterday

supple glen
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dang

odd crater
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Delves go higher than 11 now? When tf did that happen

scarlet swift
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no point in doing that shit again, too tough for hero, unless its the whole loot table

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who gives a fuck about a 6/6 garbage trinket

supple glen
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my hero heart sims better than my mythic shit but obviously not delve loot

spare steppe
burnt oxide
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Heart always sims better than liver, but similar to lung

low marten
# left peak If you don't understand what I meant it's fine. I was maybe unclear or you don't...

Two things about rampage and its usage:

  1. Enrage: You use it asap only when you are missing enrage or enrage is about to drop, because its only button that can enrage you without a chance, excluding Fresh Meat. If you are enraged, other buttons are much likely to be better because:
  • Those can proc stuff, that rampage cannot do
  • Those are buffed from additional modifiers than just enrage, via talents, bringing them much closer or higher DPE than rampage.
  • Enrage can be sustained with BT for some degree, and other buttons generate rage for rampages (the ones in the future, after the one you have just got resources for).
  • Juggling enrage uptime becomes the bigger priority on overall dps than sending highest DPE ability.

Rampage when comparing plain tooltips to other buttons (tooltips, which dont show all modifiers) might seem better button to press asap, but if that means you drop enrage later on or leave it to chance, you will lose lots of damage later. Rampages strength ultimately is that it grants you enrage, which is your biggest damage modifier for your overall dps.

  1. Rage : The 100 rage threshold exists because its sweet spot where average player is least likely to waste rage. At 100+ rage you can still press other abilities outside of CD's, if you wont drop enrage or wont waste rage by capping. BUT with CD's up you are very likely to overcap rage if you use other abilities at 100+ rage. Keep in mind that min maxing the 100-130 rage area is very very minor dps gain, most likely you make mistakes and lose dps because you waste rage or drop enrage. And as I said above, the rage you generate after 80 just goes towards higher enrage uptime, but it does not get "wasted". Spending the rage asap causes lower enrage uptime on average.
summer quail
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chat gpt ass

queen owl
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What should i roll for ? alnseer ?

burnt oxide
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I am not going to read that critcake

low marten
supple glen
burnt oxide
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Both deals maxhp in damage to yourself

vestal root
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is this new warrior main activities?

burnt oxide
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Breathing?

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Yes

rare garnet
burnt oxide
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Through mouth

vestal root
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no stopping breathing

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after reading patchnotes

burnt oxide
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Happens

wraith sentinel
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How much crit is too much crit

burnt oxide
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Yes

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If you have to ask, most likely you have to nuch

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But else, sim it

wraith sentinel
cursive ruin
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Is slayer worth running for M+ now?

grim lake
lunar urchin
supple glen
frank dawn
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has there been any maintenance for NA since yesterday or is the game still full on bugs

scarlet swift
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both

spare steppe
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Gaze is a silly trinket

fading bane
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Maybe my reroll isnt killed. Ret is 283 and a human with hands

supple glen
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why do queues always pop early, only for someone to decline and still taking 10min

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i also can never zone dreamrifts

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always encounter in progress

dense elbow
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Minmax OF damage ✅ , gotta move fast! ✅ I win ✅

shut pivot
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vault finaly blessed me with a stick

floral wasp
dense elbow
dense elbow
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boom, snap back to reality

floral wasp
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didnt scan others prob irrelevant

spare steppe
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Ayyyy we beat arcane to the bottom of damage to bosses

floral wasp
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damn..

raven notch
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The hand or the trinket 🤔

spare steppe
modest condor
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yeah i agree

raven notch
modest condor
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hands means you dont have to waste all your rolls on seat

spare steppe
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Also chimmy will give you boot and chest upgrade

modest condor
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trinket only takes 2 rolls anyway

spare steppe
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So all 3 rolls will be useful

spare steppe
modest condor
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3 rolls idk

spare steppe
modest condor
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for some reason i just blocked the tier piece from my mind

raven notch
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ok gonna take hand ... thx guys ❤️

spare steppe
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There’s like 12 things in seat, shits wild

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If not more

floral wasp
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any good fury player wanna see my logs and give me advice?

spare steppe
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What about bad fury giving you advice

terse ether
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😄

spare steppe
terse ether
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Describe "good"

ancient olive
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After the update today is thane or slayer the move for raid today

floral wasp
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thane

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slayer is dead to me

spare steppe
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I’ve been doing thane because the ST is even closer and it’s just more reliable aoe

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But also Slarms

floral wasp
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slayer forcing u to go BS instead of avatar is cancer imo

spare steppe
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I love spinning

ancient olive
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Not played arms in raid other than vanguard

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Been maiming arms in m+ tho

spare steppe
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arms is better than fury rn in raid

ancient olive
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Oh okay

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Arms it is then

spare steppe
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And slayer arms BS is actually bursty

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But if play what is fun

sullen falcon
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Guys for the best in slot weapon (blood knights warblade) what Reagents should i put when i craft ?

unreal onyx
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am I tripping or did they change the movement

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I swear I was able to freelook and press W and D at the same time to walk front right

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while holding RMB

inner shuttle
vestal root
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bugged

unreal onyx
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bruh

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yea it started when I went in a delve

vestal root
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happens when no QA

unreal onyx
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real

unreal onyx
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how would joining a delve even slightly intervene with the literal default controls deadge

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I thought my stuff was cooked, I re-bound everything and it still didnt work

vestal root
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they dont have money for QA

hot olive
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If it's the delves with the mirrors, it's bugged and disable strafing on your char right now, relogging fixed it for me, but somes need to swap character and relog

unreal onyx
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bruh thats crazy

supple glen
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my ui anchors get moved around when entering combat sometimes

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iiwii

valid pulsar
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Just read the updates. How can blizzard introduce like 20 bugs with a small patch keks

outer lagoon
oblique thistle
frank rover
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do people use cooldowns on cooldown in raid?

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for first 3 bosses

rare garnet
frank rover
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thats what i'm getting from this

valid pulsar
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abp

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Always be padding

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That is how i use my cooldowns

outer lagoon
#

I've noticed that mine tend to line up pretty closely with add spawns, so I try to line them up

sly bobcat
#

rampaging ruin the play m+???

olive wraith
#

You can if you want for big pull keys

left sage
#

Warrior Spellbook be like:

icy whale
#

how good is fury doing after the patch?

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no more thane? :<

oblique thistle
#

Thane still

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Unchanged

royal ermine
#

imagine it getting nerfed while being the bottom feeder

oblique thistle
#

Dont have to imagine

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It did (for slayer)

supple glen
#

its your fault for not checking out their great reworks and new specs

oblique thistle
#

I did check out devourer

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I fucking hated it

royal ermine
#

aye, it needs even more buffs to be on auto-play

supple glen
#

:)))

#

dk is fucking awful too

oblique thistle
#

Dk at least feels fine to play

outer lagoon
#

Don't worry. Warriors will be good in another tier or two.
I also checked out Devourer and it was so boring. Max level devs are either amazing or absolutely terrible

oblique thistle
#

Its just boring

supple glen
oblique thistle
#

Ok

modest condor
left sage
#

lmfao

dense elbow
#

I am still 1 ilvl behind

echo rapids
unreal onyx
#

depending how the loot in raid is looking

outer lagoon
#

But Devourer is like a 3 button rotation.

dense elbow
#

Nah, Fury is perfection, 5 buttons is a lot better than 3!

muted pecan
#

finally i can game

dense elbow
#

you can indeed game, gz

outer lagoon
#

Big fax. I wish I had seen that they reverted the thane nerf before raid last night. Slayer feels god awful and I was miserable

gloomy loom
#

i must complete the quest for the bonus roll this week before i do raid to get the loot right?

random shadow
outer lagoon
#

I think if they made Anfer Management reduce BS cooldown as well, slayer would be fine

brave thorn
#

does the tier from raid bosses count from the bonus roll table or nah?

dense elbow
supple glen
#

they want everyone to be 2 buttons so they can get away with their awful ui that limits every bit of skill expression

gloomy loom
#

and whats the best item to upgrade with the forge? gaze or weapon?

outer lagoon
icy whale
random shadow
dense elbow
distant spindle
#

hey guys, would you craft a 2nd weapon if vault was trash and took tokens or take rolls for m+ and if which dung it worth to bonus roll on

icy whale
supple glen
#

this game isnt for actual gamers, dont forget. its for the average person

random shadow
#

But its almost always weapon

gloomy loom
#

i get the versa mastery weap from vault -.-

icy whale
random shadow
dense elbow
random shadow
#

Replace the 276

echo rapids
#

I’m not convinced the changes made to fury intentionally shifted us away from RB to BT

icy whale
#

i have hc gaze and no chest yet, so chimaerus would be great target for me i think, sadly got boots already on mythic

random shadow
#

Take weapon then bonus roll gsze

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Ez pz

icy whale
#

yeaaah, chest would also be big

random shadow
#

I got chest last week then rolled gaze this week. Neve have to touch rift ever again unless guild prog

icy whale
#

platinum star band is tempting, but realistically will never be bis for me until like 3rd last week

gloomy loom
echo rapids
#

I think if you can use all 3 chim drops then it’s a no brainer

icy whale
#

last week i skipped voidclaw gauntlets too which i kinda regret now xd

random shadow
#

Voidclaw is kinda meh imo

icy whale
#

yeah, but seeing all my bis items flashing by

random shadow
#

Its never above 1% of my damage

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For both dps specs

icy whale
#

kinda makes me think, maybe i can reach bis quicker than expected oh well

random shadow
#

I mean

gloomy loom
#

u can get a drop freom chima + use the bonus roll to get 2 items ina row?

icy whale
#

yeah i picked the omission of light on mythic instead

icy whale
#

gave me more dps than the voidclaw

#

especially bc i already have myth tier gloves

random shadow
#

Its like blizzard knew

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Then gives me guidon

icy whale
#

i saw all trinkets already on mythic except gaze

#

well and heart

random shadow
#

Id still like heart but guidon probably will just be my trink for the rest of season

supple glen
#

sorry were nullaeus crests excluded from cap or just gilded stashs

gaunt latch
#

Are there any changes to m+ ralents today or mountain thane is still king

olive wraith
lean heart
#

has anyone TTS's reminders been super faint since the patch started

frozen scarab
#

nothing is working properly 😭

pale sentinel
#

Arms is pumping... Fury is ded are we cooked chat?

lean heart
#

no way to tell which sound channel theyre on i thought they were dialogue but theyre not i turned dialogue to max but that just made the boss' dialogue giga loud lmao

sly merlin
olive wraith
lucid solar
floral wasp
modest stirrup
icy whale
#

+2% from the vault weapon for only 20 crests

rare garnet
#

Blessed is the balancing

frank dawn
sage rune
#

guys did fury get buffed this patch?

rare garnet
#

Fury and arms real close together.

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That’s solid. And the rest of the chart. Nothing to see there. It’s perfect.

young swan
#

well

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slayer got a small buff in aoe and a small nerf in ST

sage rune
#

but does this mean anything for slayer or is it still poopoo

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for m+

sterile hearth
#

I ran Thane in heroic voidspire and got some blue parses for the new patch numbers. Felt good but mileage may vary

sullen dove
random shadow
gloomy loom
#

Do you get a guaranteed item from bonus roll in raid or u can still get only golds?

sly merlin
#

bonus roll time

#

u get an item

digital mauve
#

is the neck worht crafting? I can't loot a good neck...

drowsy heron
random shadow
#

is free

lucid solar
random shadow
#

just 8 trianing grounds

#

haste and like 200 mastery

#

for just 8 training grounds

somber elk
#

where would you use rerolls if you kill chim mythic and you need a myth weapon?

somber elk
#

more important than myth gaze? I have hc gaze tho

random shadow
#

would be a sim question

#

but its probably gaze then MT for ring and wepaon then nexus for other ring

somber elk
#

well m gaze sims +1,4k and weapon 2,8k (both 298)

random shadow
#

then it seems like weapon is the move, gaze is easier to get tho since 3 rolls instead of 1/8

digital mauve
random shadow
digital mauve
#

The 4 quest requires 8 training ground each?

random shadow
late flame
#

Is Slayer Fury currently better than it was before the patch?

digital mauve
young swan
#

bit worse on ST, bit better on aoe

late flame
#

but nothing bugged or something?

digital mauve
#

Where can I buy Nebulous Voidcores ? I'm in front of Decimus, he ask me to 3 elemetary voidcore shards

young swan
#

not that I know of

young swan
#

weeklies*

digital mauve
drowsy heron
#

they should give avatar back to Slayer

young swan
#

they should just remove avatar

undone quartz
drowsy heron
#

or just bake it into Reckless

vestal root
#

seeing ingame fury players dooming is funny

digital mauve
#

wtf so I can't have bonus roll for my guild raid tonight?

young swan
#

oh u still havent completed the 6th week

vestal root
#

fury is still good in m+ and useable in raid aswell

young swan
#

u can, u just have to run 3 dungeons

digital mauve
young swan
#

or bountiful delves at level 1

digital mauve
#

don't have time

young swan
#

those are also very fast

undone quartz
#

3 bounty delves 3 lfr bosses

digital mauve
#

gonna do lfr boss

young swan
digital mauve
#

after that quest I'm good I wil lhave 2 bonus rolls?

young swan
#

the day I can make my rotational button bar 5 buttons again will be a good day

undone quartz
#

ya you can buy em with gold marl or vetty crests

random shadow
pastel olive
#

Is it normal that guidon sims that much better then heart in dungeon slice?

random shadow
#

but guidon is a good trink

elfin vortex
#

is eyes of the eagle good for fury after the buffs?

undone quartz
#

m+ slayer still put focus into BT before RB?

compact knot
#

i think it was already good for fury prior to the buffs, its probably just the best now by a mile

sullen cloak
#

my northern sky raid tools voice alert volume is now so quiet i cant hear it....has this happened to anyone else?

olive wraith
#

Rotation hasn’t changed

frank dawn
#

Are there any updates/info for Reap and the reports it wasn't working properly with rampage? My reap damage seems low, but I haven't had much opportunity to mess around outside the target dummies, and weird shit happens with procs on dummies all the time on new patches.

kind bolt
#

does execute still do reap the storm or my idea?

frank dawn
#

sudden death still does

#

that part is working fine

elfin vortex
vague violet
#

I noticed during my m+ that my reap is doing much less than it used to

pale sentinel
#

Slayer Fury is ded sadly for M+

young swan
#

its more alive now than it was before

pale sentinel
#

you go MT fury or Arms Slayer/Col

#

That wasn't being said yesterday

#

literally half the chat was stating Arms > Slayer Fury

#

loooooooool

young swan
#

yes thats correct

#

but current slayer fury is better now than it was in 12.0.1

heavy galleon
#

just wait 12.1 for slayer

undone flower
#

friday

heavy galleon
#

thanks god, thane is still decent

summer quail
young swan
sick pagoda
#

anyone know if the has been any update on the bugged bad luck protection for bonus rolls?

young swan
#

if bottom 2 dps warrior specs is decent then yes

young swan
vale solar
young swan
#

it just treats each key level as its own loot pool

#

from what ive heard

young swan
runic violet
#

I'm attempting +13s this week. Should I go slayer or thane

sick pagoda
runic violet
young swan
#

thane is next bess choice tho

lofty seal
vale solar
#

Play what’s fun. Your spec won’t matter till way higher keys man

young swan
bold carbon
#

where you guys spending ur voidcore stuff? just curious what ppls personal bis looks like now

sick pagoda
lofty seal
#

Huge , valuable info, if its proveable

sick pagoda
#

Also how are we expected to keep track of what key provided what if that was the case, there is no info ingame about the pool afaik

vale solar
#

It’s been proven by people get shafted. Just don’t loot roll different key levels for the same dung

#

Ezpz

young swan
random shadow
#

i used mine on gaze

young swan
#

you should really just rip a couple droptimizer sims tho

lofty seal
#

Yea but is there enough verifiable data from people who have documented loot rolls from both different key levels and same key levels

sick pagoda
random shadow
#

then ima use mine in pit, but most fury players should probably do the raids then/or MT and nexus?

vale solar
sick pagoda
#

seems that M Gaze is what alot is going for, assume you have access to it

young swan
random shadow
#

id rather not do seat for gloves till much later

#

it isnt that worth over the other upgrades imo

young swan
#

theres still a mythic helm and chest

heavy galleon
olive wraith
young swan
#

which, if you dont have access to mythic loot, is a good spend of rolls

sick pagoda
random shadow
#

last night was so bad server wise

#

each pug had lots of folsk dcing

#

was a rough time but got the kill and roll so works out

vale solar
random shadow
#

tho my parses are kinda dookie

#

but it is what it is

sick pagoda
#

yeah I was just not in the mood to spam groups I guess... 🙂 lazy me

#

Will for sure chase that going forward

random shadow
#

think about the long run and rewards, is what made me wanna do it

sick pagoda
#

just sucks to sit on a ton of mythic crests

random shadow
#

now i dont have to touch rift anymore unmless guild progs

random shadow
sick pagoda
#

I picked HC trinket from vault a week as well so got behind on mythic gear

random shadow
#

like next week ima send my rolls in pit, thats 2 + 1 vault items for total of 3 myth

#

i dont have enough crests to upgrade 3 items in a row lol

sick pagoda
onyx spire
#

I took the risk and used a roll on seat, paid off and got the gloves

random shadow
#

good issue ot have, my guild leader was complaining about that

grave pike
#

what do we roll in mythic raid now? arms, fury, slayer?

young swan
#

arms

random shadow
#

i wasl ike this is a good issue to have then he said something about hero item at that point will be better then myth since we dont have crests

#

im like bruh what

grave pike
#

arms colo for 1st, dragon paladin, and slayer rest iguess?

sick pagoda
#

Was nice to get hero crest done on main.. all my alts got turbo boosted 😄

young swan
#

if you want to play fury, just play thane for everything except alleria

random shadow
young swan
random shadow
#

just blade storm

#

assuming adds die quickly

frozen scarab
#

lmaooo

young swan
#

or almost the same

#

just no reason to ever play slayer

young swan
sick pagoda
#

"if" ?

random shadow
#

Boomie second is interesting

heavy galleon
#

so we have to wait a new item for craft +10Ilvl on weapons right ?

young swan
#

yeah u got 4 weeks

vale solar
#

Yes

random shadow
echo rapids
heavy galleon
#

said +10 for crafted

sick pagoda
#

Ooo is it?

heavy galleon
#

and +9 for loot

echo rapids
#

And present in the top few parses on everyone

sick pagoda
#

so hc and myth is 9 and crafted10?

#

nice

random shadow
#

Still better to get myrh then crafted tho

echo rapids
#

I can’t recall a dps being this busted in raid for a while

sick pagoda
#

Whenever a rare mythic weapon comes my way (vault) its verse/verse

vale solar
grim lake
echo rapids
young swan
vestal root
vale solar
grim lake
#

Yall had me excited lol, im atbwork and thougjt i missed a hotfix or sonething

vestal root
#

hey look at it this way

#

arms has a bugged talent so you can say fury is closer now

heavy galleon
#

As often, warrior is not on a VERY good spot but not on a very bad too

young swan
#

we're in a very bad spot right now

echo rapids
#

It’s got a modern design, great mobility, and big aoe and single target burst

vestal root
#

it has jank which lot of modern designs dont have

vale crown
#

hi guys

echo rapids
#

It has blizzards new 4 button plus a cooldown ethos

vale crown
#

how i get moar damage plz

sick pagoda
#

Is there any info on how these upgrade charges will be handed out? 1 per week for how many weeks? or can it drop like catalyst charges? Or dont we know anything?

vale solar
#

Again, war isn’t top by any means but we are last. We are doing fine

vestal root
vale crown
vale solar
#

Play it watch streams look at parses. We are fine lol

supple glen
vale crown
#

stap sayin troo

vestal root
#

prot dont got oozing

supple glen
#

eeeh

echo rapids
#

Big L

supple glen
#

not that you said it i remember reading something

#

now

#

big l indeed

heavy galleon
#

we are fine, maybe they'll buff our ST a bit

sick pagoda
#

Its a gift to the blood god, you will be blesses with crazy loot and class buffs now

#

thanks

somber elk
#

do we know if the reroll duplicate bug is fixed?

sick pagoda
#

we dont

#

as per usual

#

like the crafting shit

vestal root
#

i had a feel to go back to fury but i doubt it would be a smart thing to do lule

vale solar
wooden lagoon
digital mauve
#

decimus ask me to get 3 more

#

wtf

vestal root
#

3% buff to raging blow

digital mauve
#

no one told me to get the shards before the reset

echo rapids
compact knot
#

hunter?

#

we are rerolling ddh

vestal root
#

i aint rerollin shit

echo rapids
#

Yeah but blizzard wants that

vestal root
#

its more because i started warrior on fury so ill always love it

echo rapids
#

I can’t get past rage coming from auto attacks

vale solar
echo rapids
#

Maybe arms warriors generate rage from attacking because they only have 1 weapon?

#

Is it a jealousy thing?

vestal root
#

rage is generally fine on arms except execute

#

especially if you got shaman in party

undone flower
#

Except no shaman yes

vestal root
#

colossus defo feels worse there

echo rapids
#

20% more primary resource if a specific class is in your party, nice

vestal root
#

think both ret and warriors suffer from this

random shadow
supple glen
#

ye i saw deadge was just hc anyway

#

copium

random shadow
#

Why bonus roll hero tho

#

Should only use it in mythic

supple glen
#

bc its a big upgrade

random shadow
#

Would ve even more if it was mythic

supple glen
#

yea im not killing mythic dreamrift this week

random shadow
#

I believe in you

vestal root
#

i tried today

#

nobody wants me

#

:)

vague stump
#

super puggable

supple glen
#

my left hand is fucked i cant play properly

#

gonna get kicked after first try

random shadow
vestal root
#

😳

#

3rd time someone is flirting with me on this discord server today

#

somethings in the air today......

late flame
#

What is currently best to play in Mythic+ and raids?

compact knot
vestal root
#

is it?

#

ill believe you

compact knot
#

4

pastel skiff
#

is it still slayer for ST?

odd crater
#

Everyone will tell you to play Thane, but Slayer is where the real fury players live

vestal root
#

tanking is for people who can lead

#

im no leader im a killer, murderer, also stupid

odd crater
#

Oh, I just over pull and then blame DPS for no kicks

rare garnet
random shadow
random shadow
vestal root
#

yo

#

theres that neck from that pvp quest

#

how long does it take to finish that quest

#

can i do it all in 1 week

tranquil sentinel
#

yep

#

u can do it in training grounds 2

narrow kiln
#

is fury or arms better now

uneven path
vestal root
#

whatever you prefer to play

vestal root
narrow kiln
vestal root
#

no but warrior is shite atm and unless you are pushing 20s or mythic progging atm it doesnt matter

#

you will perform better with what oyu enjoy

#

arms is better but harder

#

fury is completely fine for all content atm and still cooler because 2 2h

plain nacelle
#

They ever plan on doing anything about rampaging ruin?

vestal root
#

hopefully remove it

odd crater
#

We're starting Mythic tomorrow, still gunna play Slayer

vestal root
#

it is what it is man

#

colo arms has even worse st lule

#

slayer fury just send it brother

uneven path
#

Hard to imagine

plain nacelle
#

I simmed higher in ST on MT vs Slayer earlier today for reasons....

uneven path
vestal root
#

well, i dont think it matters if you are a good player

#

you will do enough dmg

uneven path
#

Yeh

vestal root
#

and i will glaze you for playing well

#

sinpl

uneven path
vestal root
#

not to mention

#

on arms you get greedy on boss dmg

narrow kiln
#

youre making me realize id rather shit in my hands and clap than play arms

vestal root
#

and do 0 on adds in raids

narrow kiln
#

continuing to play fury it is

native summit
#

yeah fuck that trinket, I'm taking the pity tokens for bonus roll

narrow kiln
#

only thing now is mountain thane really way better than slayer or nah

vestal root
#

generally its better but slayer has its niches

odd crater
#

Play slayer, have fun

vestal root
#

real

#

bladestorm bejsd

plain nacelle
#

well yeah I think slayer was the higher ST spec and MT was supposed to be the AOE spec which was pretty much true most of last expansion and when it was introduced but now I dunno. I like playing both tbh slayer feels faster than MT IMO.

odd crater
#

Slayer is the embodiment of Zug Zug

uneven path
#

RL decided to take another dev DH...

#

two of those clowns ready to full send any adds

vestal root
#

nop i mean

#

on arms you play at MOST 2t build usually

narrow kiln
#

so is slayer and mt pretty close in m+?

vestal root
#

but other than that you st

#

mt is better overall and easier for m+ but depends on pulls

plain nacelle
#

it's kinda dependant on how the tank pulls and your RNG XD

uneven path
#

Btw the RR is so weird to play

vestal root
#

you mean shit

dim spindle
#

Praise the gamer lords I decided not to run any m+ and use my cores last night

#

Also... wtf blizzard. Cray cray

young swan
white portal
#

after the warrior nerfs, ive 100% unsubscribed.

dim spindle
#

"How many bugs can we pack into one mid season patch day" is not a challenge they should strive to meet

white portal
#

until warrior is rebuffed, i won't be playing WoW at all or giving blizz my money

dense elbow
#

Yeah, but can Thane spin to win? No.

So, by default of not being able to win. Slayer is the superior spec.

young swan
#

slayer has to play rampaging ruin to keep up and thats very janky and its still less effective than just playing thane

young swan
dim spindle
dense elbow
#

The forbidden tech

dim spindle
#

And we can also still whirlwind. tyvm

uneven path
young swan
#

i dont blame you for unsubbing, game kinda sucks bad rn, but should at least be unsubbing for the right reasons

dim spindle
#

We just don't because we're um.. cooler or something

dense elbow
#

I mean, any reason, is good enough of a reason

#

have fun on the WoW vacation

white portal
#

will do lol

vestal root
white portal
#

there are other games and summer is here. gets me off the computer and reason to quit the game entirely

vestal root
#

its good to take breaks

dim spindle
#

If you're not having fun nothing wrong with unsubbing. If you decide to come back, maybe.. just maybe it'll be fun again

void wave
#

guys do you have sound effect problem on your spells, especially rampage?

dim spindle
#

But I'm not gonna lie... there's some pretty legit reasons to be upset with the game/blizzard right now

#

Not even counting warrior problems

narrow kiln
narrow kiln
dim spindle
#

Like that bonus roll core thing... if they don't make good on that for those who got duped then it's beyond inexcusable

#

"The tech just isn't there" yeah nah

vestal root
#

forgive them

dim spindle
#

Put those interns to work

vestal root
#

indie company

#

they made the game yesterday

dim spindle
#

Seems it

small tinsel
#

any 1 know which audio setting controll sthese pls ?

dim spindle
#

You can use track humanoids to autowin the decor battle thing... like what? I don't care about that content but it's just a perfect example, sadly

elfin harbor
#

raidbots still uses the wrong food as standard on fury profil :x i always forget to change that

void wave
dim spindle
#

It would be even funnier if it did

void wave
dim spindle
#

"To address the balance issues, we have applied a -5% damage done and +5% damage taken modifier to all players in M+"

#

Oh btw guys, fury is top again according to a Reddit post. Above arms in mythic raid

#

Reddit has spoken

dense elbow
woven valley
dim spindle
young swan
#

yeah im gonna wait until after people raid with unholy unnerfed

dim spindle
#

Ah that's right, that's the even bigger news. Fury stonks UP, UH DOWN baby

dense elbow
young swan
dim spindle
#

I'll take what I can get, okay

young swan
#

it will be back on top tomorrow

dim spindle
#

That's very unRedditlike of you

dapper goblet
#

one of the bugs

young swan
#

beast

olive wraith
#

Are people still seeing ramp reap issues

dense elbow
#

I havent seen any - what would the issue be?

dim spindle
#

Ooo, is there warrior bugs, too?

modest condor
#

there's a bug with arms at least

dense elbow
#

There was a disproven "ruin doesnt activate reap", thing

dim spindle
#

Rockin

lean heart
dim spindle
#

Someone should play around with talents and see if there's anything broken we can abu- er, utilize

#

I would but I'm far too lazy

merry lotus
#

The warrior bug is that it’s even an option to play im pretty sure

unkempt dagger
#

🤣

woven valley
unkempt dagger
#

I love how everyone here shares my opinion 1/1

cerulean badger
#

on crown mythic, would you send cds on pull or wait for some stacks?

dim spindle
#

You guys are harshing the vibes, man

#

You can't make me come back to reality damnit

unkempt dagger
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One day we will be meta, do devo dh dmv

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One day

vestal root
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we were at times though

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its just that atm it feels bad becuase not only are raids and dungeons bad for melees, warrior is the worst melee

fickle cedar
cerulean badger
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ty!