#fury

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random shadow
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do you have myth weapon

sly merlin
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@grim lake do u need me re sim or anything or what we thinking sory for ping

random shadow
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sim it tho

grim lake
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Whirlwind now appies rend with on slayer spec

steep bough
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Yeah and a crafted 285 hunt

random shadow
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2 myth weapon would be sick

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low key

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andthen 4 weeks from now can just 298 them

edgy widget
steep bough
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Ive run a bunch of sims, but getting literally everything i want, only nets me 1500 dps on sims lmao

pearl trout
steep bough
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Myth weapon, myth heart and heroic gaze

alpine dew
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Anyone still thane fury in keys or what’s the shi rn

grim lake
sly merlin
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ok so ring should be fine then

steep bough
sly merlin
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ig i need a bit more haste

heavy folio
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anybody experiencing issues with strafing rn?

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strafing bugged, relogged, works again but stops after hitting a mob lol

jolly mist
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is this a shoulder angle?

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or bonus roll tokens

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lol

edgy widget
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depends, does the thing you wanna roll have a good chance of giving you shoulder anyway?

stone cedar
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Hey guys, how are you ? Just a question, do you think is fury specialization will be ok after the patch 12.0.5 in mm+ 14/15/16. Or we need to play arms now ? Thank you for your answers

tight roost
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Thane is same as before

daring badge
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coined the wrong trinket, next week! maybe

worn rain
edgy widget
worn rain
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ye because if we talk about chimps trinket

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it can be avoided

supple tangle
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Is reap the storm bugged? I havent seen it trigger once during a delve as slayer

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From rampage*

south lintel
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has to hit 3 targets i think

supple tangle
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Yep and I kept an eye out during 3 or more add fight but didnt see it go off once

daring badge
tepid beacon
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yo guys, quick q. I currently have night enders fists equipped but the stat on there is vers. I did a sim of both of these and it seems better that I would have the Crit stat (on the other gauntlets,) yet the night ends fists still came out on top when simming both at 6/6 hero track.... is it only simming like that because the first gauntlets have the T4 set bonus? I would've thought it would choose crit + mastery over vers

left peak
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Can you use both rolls on a single kill in raid?

fading bane
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no, and you also dont have enough to do so

left peak
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You get two this week no?

edgy widget
fading bane
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costs 2 to roll in raid

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1 in M+

edgy widget
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cause unless you're also adding legs somewhere, replacing the glove would go down to 3

lean heart
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the increased demolish cdr caught me off guard u get it back SO FAST now

sly merlin
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juiced up rn

worn rain
molten wing
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so whats the verdict for m+ we still go thane ?

sly merlin
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is it over for me

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i didnt think it matter

sly merlin
tepid beacon
sly merlin
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i mean do u have a cata u can use on smth else?

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to get 4p back

scenic kelp
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Where to use bonus rolls terrace?

south lintel
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weapon and ring

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sheeet

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hell yea

scenic kelp
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fye

sly merlin
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use on chim M if u don’t have gaze

forest wharf
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Was considering using cores to fish for a myth track weapon from magister's. Bad call?

limpid tide
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Can’t get a mythic gaze to save my life still on champ

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I’ve been killing it since 1st week mythic came out

fading bane
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Leveled my monk and got hc and myth gaze on it

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Before seeing any on warrior

compact knot
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i wish i got a beloren kill so i could save ilvl in vaults

fading bane
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Only 40 to max is nice

compact knot
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thats a bis arms warrior vault

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plume and ring both go hard

fluid heart
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giga chads is slayer better for keys now? please say yes

sick pagoda
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No

subtle lagoon
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It's worse

static nest
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as if

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still paying for the tww s1 week 1 crimes

vague stump
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fucked with RR slayer in a 17 seat

static nest
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"crimes"

vague stump
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kinda mid

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well very mid infact

fluid heart
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is it even ebetter for raid then

slender perch
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why is this not the bald version

vague stump
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I actually think there may be a bug where RR doesnt proc reap

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anyone else having a similar thing I just tested on dummy and I am getting alot more procs of reap without ruin?

abstract vale
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its OK to drop weapon craft for 2 weapons Vault Mythic ?

thorny sparrow
slender perch
fiery edge
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mf company is so aaaah at everything, now the server has to be in maint

boreal pebble
clever iron
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eny one else having problems whit elvui?

dry zephyr
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Are there going to be token usage guide incorporated into the class guides, or is it going to be a "do as the robot commands" situation?

lean osprey
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Slayer or collosus for 18 aa?

fiery edge
vague stump
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archi does that dmg breakdown look right for my seat?

lean osprey
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I feel like slayer right?

boreal pebble
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:X

vague stump
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feels like ruin isnt proccing reap

lean osprey
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Wrong chat kekw

fiery edge
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colossus fury? seramore

plush cypress
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How many stacks can the gaze gather?

boreal pebble
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holy fury

fiery edge
uneven path
fiery edge
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that's horrendous critcake

vague stump
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bruh when BS is top dps breakdown you know its bad

sour pollen
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anyone know why 3400 mount achievement not unlocking ? or do i need to npc

lone sand
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when you guys play now, doesn't the slayer feel very elevated?

native wadi
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gamer

thorny verge
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How behind are we in damage compared to arms in M+ Rampage

pearl lance
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Yes

vague stump
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25% in aoe

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god knows how much single

thorny verge
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Holy shit keks

boreal pebble
restive fiber
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25%

thorny verge
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What did we ever do to Blizzard lmao

fading bane
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After reroll

sick pagoda
cloud jungle
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We play colossus on most fights now rather than fury?

sick pagoda
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Thanks for making my point 🙂

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We always play Fury

compact knot
thorny verge
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Two weapons, big damage Rampage

compact knot
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fury getting a st nerf means you never play it ever

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they dont care about the spec

cloud jungle
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for dragons, paladins u play colossus tho no?

drowsy citrus
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yeah im looking into how difficult it's gonna be to regear for arms right now, idk what they are doing but fury sint it

compact knot
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colossus on 1st boss voidspire, dragons and paladins, slayer on everything else

potent thicket
grave pike
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its fullsend arms all bosses now?

compact knot
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thats about it

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run both npx rings

fiery edge
compact knot
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but if you are in a like for fun or unc guild you can stay fury

grave pike
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soon 4/9 myth sodeadge unc iguess

compact knot
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not the worst

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think you can still play either though and it wont change much

grave pike
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ait ill try out arms, had 98/99 logs as fury and prob shit as arms

compact knot
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if you are 99/98

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you can prob just stay fury

grave pike
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i lied, 98/97

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yea i probably will

compact knot
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thats pretty much the same thing

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relearning a whole new spec mid prog might not be ideal when you are already performing at a exceptional level on your current spec

grave pike
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true true, only playing arms in m+ now tho and got a second set

fallen sedge
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logged a 95 for my ilvl in M vorasius yesterday!! wooooo

flat river
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guys

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WW isnt applying rend

fallen sedge
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lmao

compact knot
flat river
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wait mb

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debuff bugged out

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now works

compact knot
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W

stone cedar
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So fury is definitely over in mm+ ?

compact knot
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if by over you mean dead then no

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you can still play either to a pretty high level

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the high fury warriors arent far behind the arms warriors

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but arms is just better in m+ at pretty much everything

stone cedar
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So to mm+16/17 I can play fury and that will be ok ?

compact knot
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yeah

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you can play it until +20s probably

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then itll start to get very hard to get into keys and the dps checks become harder

stone cedar
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Ok thanks for your answer bro. I hope the pug will be continue to choose war fury and not only war arms to clean mm+

compact knot
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i dont think the +16 lvl is flooded with people so

quartz charm
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Im pushing +16 now and its hard to find keys, in general

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as khazix says, I dont think there is much of a choice

lilac plinth
stone cedar
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Ok 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

brittle tinsel
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What changes have they made to Fury Thane? I've noticed it hits for less than half the damage it used to.

strange drift
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they slaughtered my boy in every type of content i liked

compact knot
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you have the higher ilvl weapon in your offhand

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...

random shadow
compact knot
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-2k dps

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gg

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but uh

strange drift
snow radish
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Thats a bait 😂

random shadow
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warrior players are something alright

compact knot
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happens lmfao

strange drift
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Didn't noticed when i simmed i was fucking around with diff weps

random shadow
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but understandable, im also moving away from fury into arms

strange drift
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i have like 3 276 weps and was changing them

compact knot
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recraft your weapon to haste crit no embellishment

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then recraft cloak to arcanoweave haste crit

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and wrists to haste crit if they arent already

random shadow
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i could really use a haste crit myth weapon man

strange drift
strange drift
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however im still waiting for like 90% of addons to be updated since for some fucking reason when i enter the game i get a pinata of errors

wicked eagle
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Anyone else’s ww tracker crocked with new patch?

compact knot
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i disabled everything except the shit i needed

slim coral
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bro the enrage bar is insanely awfulright now

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my enrage bar was pretty much invis all of midnight falls prog tn

random shadow
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you know how it is

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give it a day or two

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i switched to arms for lura and then my UI blew up with errors and my bars froze

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was still pumping 7th or so KEKW

slim coral
strange drift
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vibe coded expansion i swear

random shadow
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you didnt enjoy todays 8 hour reset?

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fixed all the bugs we had

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frfr

compact knot
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we lost a hour of lura prog for no reason

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because of the bugs

strange drift
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biggest bug was not giving fury flat 10% damage increase

compact knot
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p3 lura isnt killable because of a bug

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constant dcs

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freezing mid pull

random shadow
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ye was dcing lots of folks during my mythic dreamrift pug

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it is what it is

compact knot
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our rl put a ready check out

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and it dcs 3 people

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like what did we do

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??

random shadow
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dont ready check

strange drift
random shadow
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duh

strange drift
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come on guys

random shadow
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youre using discord

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use what we call voice coms

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xD

random shadow
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at least 2 buckos

slim coral
strange drift
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im dipping ts once i see a legion classic (non-official) server

slim coral
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we hit the end of p2 knockbacks

crisp estuary
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¿trinket or gloves?

strange drift
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not even joking im not gonna look back

slim coral
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tomorrow is p3 for us as long as we dont regress

random shadow
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who wants to use that filthy trinket smh

compact knot
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hopefully we kill on thursday

slim coral
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next thursday?

random shadow
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ew

slim coral
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hopefully we kill sunday or monday

strange drift
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my guild is on alleria rn im benched since salhadar KEKW hope u having fun pals

terse ether
random shadow
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could pull the you coudl go arms route

terse ether
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weapon or mythic gaze ? 😛

slim coral
strange drift
compact knot
random shadow
strange drift
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on vanguard

compact knot
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we are very consistent in p1 now

random shadow
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screw the weapon or gaze

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the neck is nice

compact knot
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is ur rl

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still forcing you to play fury

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lmao

slim coral
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yeah but its ok

compact knot
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you should play the cleave arms build

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it shreds

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the boss

slim coral
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it lets everyone else go st

compact knot
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in p1

last vessel
slim coral
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fuck it

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our damage on bossi is more than fine ngl

compact knot
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ill be doing 110k boss dps in p1 tomorrow

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while cleaving

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hmmmm

slim coral
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we at 55 percent 1 minute before knockback

compact knot
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yeah thats enough

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just live and boss dies

slim coral
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we actualyl are really good at p1 now

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not too bad

strange drift
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how's lura rn btw on mythic

slim coral
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its fun

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its pretty much a waiting simunlator tho

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on how fast your crystal people pick it up

bitter palm
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play khas build i watched him play he is actually doing real damage now

compact knot
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you sac like

bitter palm
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or everyone from his guild is suddenly doing 20% less damage

compact knot
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3% st for 20-30k p1 boss dps

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i think

fading bane
slim coral
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yeah I mean without cyyrstals tho

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this fight would be so free

fading bane
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Ye its like 90% of wipes

slim coral
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so it makes sense on why they added it

compact knot
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having to take care of a child is hard

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leave your child in a beam and it blows you all up

slim coral
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its ok we all kill this week and then we can secure all the good loot on farm with rerolls

strange drift
compact knot
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the arms cleave build is pretty fun cause you can use the termination crystals for funnel damage

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massive p1 funnel

slim coral
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yeah I'll have to try that before the big fury buffs

compact knot
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both our hunters are going BM also

terse ether
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1.3% for weapon 0.7% for trinket

compact knot
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which does 0 crystal damage

terse ether
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but the chanceof getting myth gaze >??? I dont know

compact knot
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so i get to use my cleava more

compact knot
strange drift
random shadow
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So i meann

compact knot
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1/3 if you go prot loot spec

uneven path
compact knot
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since salhadar

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what

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dragons and paladins are like the only 2 good warrior bosses

strange drift
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trial raider life

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what can i say

heavy dock
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interesting

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/gquit and go next

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thats what i would do

earnest tiger
# strange drift what can i say

you could say fuck this shit, i'm playing a game, and i'm a human being, and I don't deserve to be yelled at regardless of circumstance

and then yeah find a better guild

heavy dock
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but bothering with retail guilds u havent been a part of for multiple years seems painful so im glad im not bothering with that

dry zephyr
compact knot
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you could take wep craft cloak embellishment

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would be giga dps

dry zephyr
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In that sim I am crafting belt embellishment

compact knot
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that makes more sense actually

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i wouldnt take a hero alnseer

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personally

random shadow
compact knot
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mythic version is very easy to get and you can get much much better long term upgrades

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id take socket over a hero alnseer personally

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i think you can grab 2nd wep tho

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not the worst stats

heavy dock
strange drift
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rant over, fury bad im gonna cry in my warrior corner with my funny cap with a spinny thing on

random shadow
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Im also happen to be a top pumper in guild which is both a good and bad thing lmao

astral path
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man

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i think slayer might be back in m+

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at least for me

heavy dock
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yea tbh doing splits kills me too :D

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doing more than 1 char too

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tbh

strange drift
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getting CE doenst require that

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tbh

random shadow
strange drift
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u are 100% fine just having 1 main lol

random shadow
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Meant more like hof or early ce

strange drift
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oh yeah

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but thats diffrent

random shadow
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I dont really like mid to alte ce either

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Dont wanna raid that late into season and for many days

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Just doesnt feel right imo

strange drift
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its like comparing a class b player in football to premier league/championship footballer

frail escarp
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if i pick the boots from my vault, will i then have a 50% chance of bonus rolling the trinket? Or can i still end up bonus rolling the boots?

muted tulip
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I think bonus roll is bugged rn I wouldnt send

random shadow
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Raid is fine to send

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Its keys thats bugged

heavy dock
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anyone on EU managing to log in?

native wadi
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im in yup

random shadow
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You have ge tthe boots from the rolls in order to not get the boots again

frail escarp
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Ah okay got it

abstract vale
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who update trincket and weapon after clear void quest forge ?

compact knot
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because they hate us

abstract vale
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wtf..

compact knot
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same reaction

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i really wanted a 298 weapon

random shadow
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Blizzard doesnt want us to have 298 trinks and weapon thidbesrly

abstract vale
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and clear saison on may..

random shadow
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Im fine eith weapon not being out. I need to get the crit one

compact knot
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i wouldnt even really mind the charges being time gated and its like 1 per week

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but i think its going to work the same way as the manaflux

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who knows

random shadow
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Like its 2 rn. Next week goes up to 4. Are we only getting 2 next week or can we get 4?

compact knot
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2 every week

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itll work the same as sparks

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except 2 every week instead of 1

random shadow
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Swear I read about limit somewhere on wowhead

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Something about 2 increase every week

compact knot
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idk man nobody in my guild knows wtf is going on

random shadow
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But ya know blizzard wording

compact knot
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im just making shit up based on the knowledgeable and intelligent people in my guild

strange drift
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turboboost but better basically

random shadow
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So like

compact knot
random shadow
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Increases by two every week

muted tulip
strange drift
random shadow
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Is it hard capped. Soft. Reset. Or

compact knot
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it probably wont work like you get 2 this week then 4 next week

random shadow
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4 weeks in the cap would be 8 total. Is it resetting to 0

compact knot
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that seems pretty stupid

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they will just do the same system as sparks

random shadow
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Ic

compact knot
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you can probably save them though

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so like if you dont wanna spend this week for whatever reason you can have 4 next week

random shadow
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Dont see a point in saving

compact knot
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yeah

random shadow
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Just full sending it

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Not like I havw the crests anyways

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Next week gonna be the have more gear then crests

compact knot
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i need to bedge i think

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430 am

random shadow
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2 21 I have to be awake in 4 hours

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I bedge. Already kissed xan good night

vague stump
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is there a season cap on the rolls do we know?

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or is it like from now until end of the season?

heavy dock
compact knot
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also agreed

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this was very early

terse ether
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how do we getbonus roll ?

dense elbow
kind bolt
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what damage source is this

strange drift
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well its word of recall of course

heavy dock
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its old

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grandpa damage

strange drift
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dont u know it lol

compact knot
strange drift
compact knot
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it probably is attributing something to a hearthstone cast

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another reason to ignore the ingame damage meter!

strange drift
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claude vibe coded it and thats how it works

kind bolt
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now its a tongue attack

strange drift
strange drift
heavy dock
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like details before was so cool

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color coded dmg types, how much dmg on each target and all that

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now u get: damage.. and thats it

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nothing else

strange drift
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that u want

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from 1 addon

heavy dock
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i loved to be able to see what i spell reflected and how much dmg it did esp as now that im plaiyng tank

kind bolt
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i think its reap the storm

heavy dock
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but now i have to guess

sand thistle
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ok fols, Rampaging ruin does not trigger Reap the storm

heavy dock
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altho its fun to relfect 3rd boss in sot and last in skyreach, their cast do insane dmg

dense elbow
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Please be true

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That would be especially hilarious

heavy dock
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i can see it being true

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blizz monkey crew at their best

strange drift
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gimmie your talent string

sand thistle
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that's bullshit if I dont press Sudden DEath execute for Reap, Rend does more damage than Reap ....

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i tested not presssing SD just to see rampage reap triggers

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and it;s even worse with Rampaging Ruin

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so folks Reap procs only when Ramapge finishes it's cast not on every rampage hit

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so now it's even worse than being procced on BT haha

strange drift
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okay rampaging ruin procs reap but holy shit it's so low % it's useless to use

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WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS

sand thistle
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yea, i overreacted a bit

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but the proc is loooooow

vestal root
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dont use ruin its shrimple

compact knot
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Yo guys what if we tried to stray away from the target cap of fury

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That won't end poorly

sand thistle
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even w/o ruin, purely off rampage reap will basically do auto attack damage almost lol

compact knot
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Should just commit to the 5x target cap

sand thistle
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better not let any SD goto waste now

dense elbow
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You never should have already

vestal root
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ngl this patch seems really buggy on multiple sides

dense elbow
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Dev DH is a mess

vestal root
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blizz QA when

compact knot
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Ddh is buffed by bugs rn

dense elbow
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When AI can do it

uneven path
compact knot
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Uhdk is nerfed by bugs

uneven path
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costs money

vestal root
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need more booba milk

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my hotbar has the gryphons on side all the time even when i disable it

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🗿

dense elbow
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I mean, it is quite logical to not hire QA, when you got ppl paying you the company monthly to do it

tardy lark
compact knot
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I think it works in the sim

vestal root
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maybe they should "fix" warrior with some buffs

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thank

compact knot
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It just doesn't work in game

dense elbow
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Warrior is above Arcane, as such needs a nerf

compact knot
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Arcane getting noting pmo

vestal root
uneven path
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Both arcane and slury were good on tww s3

compact knot
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Might delete the mage if arcane stays as boring as it is now

vestal root
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friend says his procs would randomly light up on hotbars and he doesnt even use any addons for such stuff

compact knot
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It was so fucking good in twe

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Twe

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FUCK

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Tww

uneven path
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xdd

compact knot
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I hate phone

uneven path
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Seems the phone hates you too

vestal root
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i hate my phone too

uneven path
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Not as much as blizz hates warrior thoe

strange drift
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what did warrior do to deserve having so much flak

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can we close the discord for like a week

vestal root
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generational hate towards warriors

compact knot
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Arms aint that bad

uneven path
sand thistle
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this is a ~ 2min dummies run testing Rampage Reap procs. For science i ignored every SD Execute

compact knot
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Fury is pretty shitty

sand thistle
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lovely

uneven path
sand thistle
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i can already see a massive difference with yesterday even on dummies

strange drift
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warrior = bad becouse it has war in the name

dense elbow
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Why would you ignore SD... When SD is the power gain of the spec and what Reap is supposed to be built around

strange drift
dense elbow
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Yeah but he already did that

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We know it procs

uneven path
sand thistle
uneven path
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Should've tested just pressing bt yesterday

strange drift
uneven path
strange drift
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the old animation

dense elbow
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I think maybe the point is to prove that Reap does less overall dam BT vs Rampage

Tho it is very irrelevant

strange drift
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wish they glyphed that

uneven path
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You can try to remove it and see if it helps, though I really like the animation of condemned

vestal root
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condemn with the red trail ooooof

sand thistle
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here's a full rotation test, Reap should not be that far below, it was always 2nd or first damage before the patch

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odyns is beating it hmmm

uneven path
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And we got the spear cuz of it

vague stump
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yeah our single is so cooked

uneven path
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Fucking out of touch blizzard

vestal root
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spear being unused is a shame it replace ravager with spear and just give spear the cleave buff on arms

vague stump
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I have been playing some keys I cant get over 75k single

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278ilvl

vestal root
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bring back condemn

uneven path
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I second it

vestal root
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so we get nerfed because "oooooo warrior good in execute!"

plush cypress
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Can i get voidcores for the last level of voidforge from lfr?

vague stump
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I just dont know what on what planet they buff col single and just leave fury

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like???

uneven path
vague stump
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who tf cooked this 12.0.5 shit w slayer is fucking garbage

uneven path
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20% per target

vague stump
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it feels like it never procs

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like the only reap I feel I get are from SD

uneven path
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On 5 target you would have 100%

vestal root
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also skyfury existing is annoying

vestal root
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fury is starved in general, poverty spec

uneven path
tardy lark
uneven path
vestal root
uneven path
tardy lark
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you never had 100% reap proc

uneven path
tardy lark
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no

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thats not how probability works

rancid crag
#

Guys what do you think occlusion of void myth or myth weapon what is more worth it

tardy lark
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on 5 targets at 20% chance each, the probability of a proc is 67%

uneven path
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It wasn't probability back then

tardy lark
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yes

uneven path
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It was additional 20% per target, not 20% on target

tardy lark
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my man

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the chance is 20% on each individual target

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roll that 5 times

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= 67%

sand thistle
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Reap procs after rampage finishes hitting and it seems that it does not take into account the targets

vestal root
tardy lark
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it worked that way in S1 and same in S3

vestal root
tardy lark
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it was the reason BT was a good button above 6 targets as fury until S3 tier set

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and exercebated by the change the tier received week 3 or 4

sand thistle
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if we trust ingame tooltip the talent literary says, if you hit 3 or more targets rampage has 20% chance period. not 20% change per target

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so 1 rampage cleaving 5 targets will only have 20% change to reap

smoky vale
tardy lark
sand thistle
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but there's smth fishy with reap currently

tardy lark
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BT hitting 5 targets rolled the 20% on each target, but for the S3 tier set RB didnt behave the same way. The week 3 or 4 change to the tier set made RB behave the same way as BT with regards to Reap

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So everything you pressed procced reap, making sustained aoe giga good

tardy lark
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idk

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passion at an all time low this tier

uneven path
tardy lark
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That never was the case. The S3 tier change was to make BT and RB behave the same way

uneven path
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Then it was changed to 67% on 5 target

tardy lark
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You never had a 100% chance to proc reap

uneven path
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One thing I recall form S1 was the triple nerf

tardy lark
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If you care to, you could prolly find some Critcake S1 keys and see what i mean

tardy lark
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thank god cause i cba finding the crit videos

uneven path
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But the 20% felt feels like shit,

tardy lark
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everything feels like shit this xpac

strange drift
uneven path
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Which is funny since they had slayer formula in s3

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Just make SD proc slayer strikes and RB reap (with some DMG buffs for RB) and we are set.

vestal root
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i find it funny every time fury gets going and gets good gameplay

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they move away from it

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"oh you guys are having fun and enjoying this version? fug you im taking it away"

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thanks blizz

uneven path
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Yeh, fuck us I guess

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Love them changing the talent for rampage resetting RB

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Like surely this will make us pick it clueless

vestal root
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yep RB

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our pride and joy

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we want to press it more often

uneven path
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I love how they solved issue of making BT more appealing to press by shooting rb in the head

vestal root
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issue is thta crushing blow also is lowkey ass

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we went from cb being giga good to this

uneven path
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CB scales of RB numbers

vestal root
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i feel like prio got completely reversed from tww lol

uneven path
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Like at this point to buff our singel they just have to buff RB

vestal root
#

go away aaaaaaa

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how is this bugged

uneven path
vestal root
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as much as i love fury

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it also needs a rework because i think blizzard is clueless on what to do with it

uneven path
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Rework wont help

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If they dont know what they are doing to begin with

vestal root
#

granted apparently MM got a mini rework this patch and MM players are saying its scuffed

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so i think perma doomed

uneven path
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Hey, but like what pisses me most about fury, its almost good

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Like one good patchnote away from being fun and almost meta

red berry
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i think a numbers touchup would be nice until they can do anything significant

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ive bitched about it enough but i really hate that thunder blast has been made so

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nothing

uneven path
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I want to play slury, I enjoyed it so much on TWW s3 even thou the RB spam was kinda annoying for like 10th season in row

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But it had insane aoe sustain dmg

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Great singel target

vestal root
#

same

uneven path
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It was just a treat to play

vestal root
#

slury is my fav warrior

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but atm slarms bangs

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hard

red berry
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slayer is a blast to play

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slayer arms is very fun too

uneven path
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Makes slury much more fluent, but holy shit the "20%" on rampage to proc reap is hoax

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Feels like 4% maube 2%

vestal root
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maybe the % is scuffed internally

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i know cleave on arms works well

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get it often enough

red berry
#

i honestly feel like arms gets a lot of SD procs too

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less so on furry

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fury

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.

ashen swallow
vestal root
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it wouldnt do much unless number was real high

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fundamentally AM and some other choices keep our flat dmg profile wack

ashen swallow
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I guess the trouble with buffing fury ST is they risk making the AOE too overpowered, but it all feels a bit too weak at the moment

vestal root
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what op aoe bro have you seen what some classes do in aoe

ashen swallow
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Yeah none of it is strong at the moment, our AOE is tied to ST damage though which is what I feel like they're having trouble tuning

vestal root
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man i cant even pad anymore there are classes bursting aoe so fast i dont even see adds

wary pilot
#

So, is it time to switch to Arms for both Mythic+ and raids?

vestal root
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you are 2 weeks late

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but also if you enjoy fury you shjould keep playing it

red berry
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you could buff the shit out of thunder blast to maybe make us comparable to them but you'd have to do something nasty for that. if you just buff the core abilities like bloodthirst. execute. raging blow and all, we'd see improvements on cleave fights where mobs have a lot of health but

vestal root
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if pepos can do +20s on a fury so can you

red berry
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and they're not going to touch thunder clap or thunder blast

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or reap

pearl sequoia
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devour dh is just fury warr pre nerubarr nerf

vestal root
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well they almost nuked thane yeah lol

red berry
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but it isn't gonna make us big

tardy lark
vestal root
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indeed

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which is why i suck at this game and will never do that key level :D

tulip otter
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Think I might swap from arms to fury for keys ngl, doing trash st is kinda ass

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Esp in pugs

vestal root
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play slayer?

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slayer is really good on ST

tardy lark
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just do all the aoe damage and only invite BM and paladins to keys

uneven path
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just better

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and ranged

pearl sequoia
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yuh lol

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stolen identity

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but better

vestal root
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buff em

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they need it

uneven path
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yeh the 8% fore meta class on aoe and singel was deserved

uneven path
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@vestal root btw isnt colossus arms now just strait up better then slayer ?

tulip otter
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For aoe yeah not st

vestal root
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slaya still better ST, and way easier to play

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just smaller gap

tulip otter
#

Overall m+ they’re better pretty sure

somber eagle
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anyone got slayer m+ build ?

vestal root
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in overalls and higher keys yeah they are better because tanks will funnel

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if you pug id still rock slayer

uneven path
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just asking out of curiosity

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I cant get behind arms

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I am just too deep into fury I guess

vestal root
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slayer works well ngl its quite fun except execute is rage starvation supreme

abstract tulip
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I have 280 ilvl and 3100 rating, I am not getting invited to 10 keys by 2400 rating pugs as fury cause influencers said its not meta
feels bad man

vestal root
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colo is messy cd management but top 3 aoe in the game

uneven path
vestal root
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honestly id play fury but on arms i get to compete on st at least

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"compete"

uneven path
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Its more fun to watch paint dry then wait for rage in exe phase on arms

vestal root
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with fury im just depressed

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also Cleave is just giga strong

uneven path
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Yeh

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Cleave is what RR could've been

vestal root
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if it only didnt reduce your st dmg

tulip otter
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You play slayer or colossus arms xan?

vestal root
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slayer mainly but i gotta practice more colo

tulip otter
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I’m just trying to hit 3400 and struggling to get invites atm, I’m almost 3300io, 3 off

vestal root
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you higher than me then

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granted i dont take this game too seriously but still

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we are not meta and people watch youtube/streamers too much

red berry
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im 3350 atm and i don't pug too much. when i have the patience to play queue simulator

vestal root
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but id rather inv a warrior than a paladin/devourer

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because those 2 good chance terrorists

tulip otter
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It’s just jarring because you really don’t need an optimal team to hit 3400

uneven path
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True key terrorist attack

tulip otter
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It’s mainly tank dependent from what I’ve seen as long as dps know how to press buttons and defensive

vestal root
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if you are EU id take you anyways i respect that

vestal root
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or giga carry

uneven path
vestal root
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colo arms depends on tanks heavily which is why i rarely play it

shell parcel
#

question for the NA gamers does anyone know
Chimareus for prot drops gaze boots and mythic tier chest
I already have mythic tier chest does it count to the loot pool for the reroll system?

uneven path
vestal root
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it is but still need funneling, need to suffer with ravager being a skill to use

uneven path
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Holy yeh

tulip otter
uneven path
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Colo uses ravager xdd

tulip otter
#

Might just go fury and actually have fun, arms slayer is dope but colossus just feels clunky

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Fury actually feels fluid to play

somber eagle
#

anyone with new slayer build for m+?

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or is it the same as before

vestal root
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slayer arms is gucci though

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being up there on ST feels good for once

tulip otter
uneven path
vestal root
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thing is

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arms is ok with fury gear

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fury with arms gear not that much

uneven path
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I am thinking of dropping every ounce of crit on my fury and just going full heast mastery

vestal root
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whatever the bot says man

uneven path
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I think bot is trying to sabotage me

left peak
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So anybody tried the new fury in higher keys? (Slayer)

uneven path
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Pushing me full haste on fury, not carying about other stats

tulip otter
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I only have like 3 mythic crit haste pieces and 3 crafted so I can sort out 3 by recrafting and just sidegrade the rest

vestal root
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i mean i got belt and boots catalysted so i wouldnt be swapping them anyways but the resti could recraft or sdwap to mastery

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but yeah not worth it, just so i can get depressed seeing fury st

left peak
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Why would you get rid of all crit?

tulip otter
#

Isn’t fury st better than arms?

loud trout
echo rapids
tulip otter
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I love the real the storm animation

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*reap

vestal root
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arms slayer is quite decent in ST nowadays

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now even better

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and in m+ still good just 1 talent change now

uneven path
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Kinda sad the slayer arms lost 7% on sustain aoe sadga

vestal root
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"sustain" but with bladestorm buff we burst aoe well now

left peak
#

Yo fk arms, how does fury look now MT/Slayer nerf or buff whats going on

uneven path
vestal root
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yeah but rend is not that high on prio for slayer as it is for colo

pallid basin
#

Can tell me some1 how now sim fury thane/slayer for m+?

uneven path
vestal root
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i like thane but dang do i hate its rotation being TC TB basically, whyyyyyyy

pallid basin
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No, Imean how to sim ?:)

vestal root
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raidbots

pallid basin
#

dungeon slice/single target 5 min or 8target ?

uneven path
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btw @vestal root 3 min test on dummies with full rotation

vestal root
#

why is RR seperate instances

tiny seal
#

why tf is slayer arms siming lower in st then mt fury

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atleast on me

red berry
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yeah, it was simming lower for me too. but i also don't have as much crit as i could have

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im very fury-geared

tiny seal
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i have 31% but only 20% haste

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but thats not justifying 5k difference

uneven path
vestal root
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they will give me AI generated reply

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so why bother

uneven path
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ok time to pop monster some zin and do terrorist attack with RR slury on some 15s

vernal patio
#

I already have alnseer, mostly care about M+ rather than raid performance.

Can't really decide lmao

Plume sims slightly better but marginal

sour pollen
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Can you use this if u already have sword and bracer with embelishment on both ?

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ah nvm u cant

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blind ass dident see toptext

vestal root
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i dont have a good answer

reef merlin
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Do we ever press raging blow? Or is that at the bottom of the prio still for both mt and slayer?

uneven path
reef merlin
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Roger that. One less button to worry about

uneven path
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I think 3 or 4+ its better just to spam ww

heavy dock
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but u cant use more than 2 yes :D

static mountain
#

so how r u guys enjoying slayer fury?

hybrid wharf
vestal root
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i mean in raid arms rarely has CDs for adds

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i play ST build on almost everything except vanguard

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fury pads a lot on adds arms doesnt get to do that

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its obvious in logs

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when you check proper fight like Vorasius, Arms is ahead

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on crown hc i also perform way better on arms, from p2 and onwards im often in top 5 compared to fury

rotund ginkgo
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Imagine not rerolling arms

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@vestal root gospel preacher

vestal root
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i love both

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too bad blizzard hates us 🥰

reef merlin
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I'm looking through the top logs and trying to figure out when to use mt vs slayer in raid. Trying to find a rhyme or reason but I'm not seeing it. When do you use either of the hero talents? When raiding as fury (I know some fights are good for arms like the vanguard)

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Seems like the top raiders are all over the place with which spec or hero talents they are using at any given time

unkempt dagger
vestal root
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thane logs are way stronger with TB hitting many, while slayer you should try to bladestorm pad at times or rng dependant

unkempt dagger
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just play what you like

reef merlin
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I'm just trying to bring my best DPS to my weekly heroic raid nawmsayin?

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Feels good to be at the top of the meters

unkempt dagger
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in heroic, i dont see that big use of thane

vestal root
#

warrior is never gonna top

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im sorry

unkempt dagger
#

everything dies too fast for it to be worth

vestal root
#

devourers, hunters, locks

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they exist

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my lock guildie half asleep fucks up his rotation and still pumps like crazy meanwhile i sweat my balls off

rotund ginkgo
#

Just go arms and play full st

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Pointless to bother with people not doing their actual roles

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U have 17 devourer dhs in ur raid bro gl

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They're holding collapsing star for 3 mobs

unkempt dagger
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just play whatever you like 😄

rotund ginkgo
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Yeah it's hc raid just have fun

unkempt dagger
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atp its just what you enjoy

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i play slayer even if its suboptimal

rotund ginkgo
#

I practiced arms in hc for a few days before I sent mythic

unkempt dagger
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i just enjoy it more than i enjoy thane

reef merlin
#

Ok so the question is when to use slayer vs MT not how does fury compare to devourer and warlock. Y'all pull your panties up and quit cryin

unkempt dagger
#

i literally told you

rotund ginkgo
#

Adds evaporate

unkempt dagger
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dont go thane, unless ur team is gonna let u pad with tclap

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if ur team does any sort of aoe mehanich

rotund ginkgo
#

There's a good chance the mt logs ur seeing are old/parse logs

unkempt dagger
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it will not be better than slayer

rotund ginkgo
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You're probably better off sending slayer all bosses unless ur raid players r just bad

unkempt dagger
#

If you want a non human answer go ask chatgpt, kinda rude saying that after not reading what we responded.

vestal root
#

MT on vanguard if you dont wanna go arms colossus

rotund ginkgo
#

Yeah I guess the only bosd u can safe mt is paladins

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Maybe cosmos

reef merlin
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Is arms slayer single target better than fury slayer? Assuming adds die too fast to pad with aoe

rotund ginkgo
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Fury is more uptime dependant

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So if u lose uptime often arms will be better

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I haven't simmed fury in a while tbf but back when I did arms was like only 5k behind

reef merlin
#

Interesting okay. I like fury for raid because of the survivability but if the adds are gone too quick to pad with (y'all are right about that) then maybe arms is stronger DPS?

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If you have to run around sometimes to do mechanics anyway and lose uptime because kill times are longer than those top guilds

vestal root
#

slayer fury sims like 7k more on full arms stats but when i got dummy or st boss its never the case for me

vestal root
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if you wanna stick on the boss arms is better choice, arms doesnt get to pad a lot

reef merlin
#

You think so? Fury has a lot more self healing

vestal root
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IF you take enraged regen and stuff, but so does arms

reef merlin
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Bloodthirst tho

vestal root
#

arms also gets die by the sword

reef merlin
#

True

vestal root
#

arms has Fueled by Violence

nova vessel
#

yall think slayer is just rng bugged or it just works that way,?

eternal nebula
#

use cookie,healtpot and you're good

vestal root
#

but both specs seem to have some bufs atm

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bugs

uneven path
#

btw they did something to tts voluem

unkempt dagger
#

yeah i feel like rampage just does not trigger reap the storm at all? or did i read that wrong

vestal root
#

triggers on multiple targets

unkempt dagger
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yeye i was testing on dummies

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rampaging ruin was there

static mountain
unkempt dagger
#

but not the reap the storm?

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i tried like just using rb whirlwind and rampage

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and i might lie but around like 5 min test(dont quote me on that, i think i did like 15-20 rampages)
i did not proc a single time

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i have a meeting rn so cant link the picture but i will be able to test it more after the meet

vestal root
#

rampaging ruin is a meme

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wont catch me using that until they make it so you dont have to worry about aura cancels n shit

unkempt dagger
#

i dont use ww on st either way so im gucci 😄

woven sky
#

hey is there any change on the thane build for dj?

rotund ginkgo
#

I never felt like I did fury St correct this season

#

And it's like wtf can u fuck up on it lolc

vestal root
#

im just assuming its procs and various other things

#

and executes and

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idk

#

but slayer arms defo better on st

rotund ginkgo
#

Feels more consistent for sure

#

I just hate current fury rage gameplay

#

Everything overlaps

#

I enjoyed the hype and then I felt like it's just not as smooth

void pasture
#

bring back last season slayer so we can all have fun

carmine pasture
vestal root
#

💯

void pasture
#

they hit the feel of slayer just right back then, why change it....

south lintel
#

fury is not smooth ata ll

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all that work

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for 50k dps

#

st

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LOL

rotund ginkgo
#

It's why I went arms

#

Last season slayer was in fact goated

vestal root
#

it just feels wack thta fury needs 200% uptime to even be visible and has no burst

eternal nebula
#

and look what they did smh

south lintel
#

its so punishing getting any kind of rng bad mechanic

vestal root
#

not to mention the pop rampage above 100 rage is so counter intuitive to many players trying to learn the spec properly

rotund ginkgo
#

They mske rampage cost less and u think ok my play is rampage spam to stack apex

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Nope

#

Thats a dps loss

#

Sending 5 rampage in a row feels amazing

#

Doing no damage with them does not feel amazing

#

Buff ramp to be highest prio at all times

#

And it's somewhat better already

vestal root
#

like i was so confused when i came back and read that rotation info at first

#

why what how

bleak harness
#

Yea , u cant be having the spender as lower prio than builder , just bad design

vestal root
#

game is telling me to spend it?

#

but i should hold?

bleak harness
#

Yep

#

Bad design , for real

uneven path
#

Testing RR bit on 3 target and feels like it comes down to rng if regualr rempage or rr is better at this point

vestal root
#

gamba gameplay yummy

uneven path
#

Yeh, just comes down to if I proc more SDs when using the RR or Rampage

rare fjord
#

is there a general consensus whether arms or fury is better for m+ after patch?

uneven path
rare fjord
#

ty

vestal root
#

but if you prefer fury and play better on it stay fury

earnest tiger
#

Bruh there was so much arms glazing happening in here today I decided to try it out

There is something wrong with people who enjoy this crap

strange drift
#

how i be feelin castin ts

onyx mountain
#

REAL

thorny verge
#

Arms have 1 dungeon that drops like 4 really good items sadge

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I dont want to farm bloody MT. Theres nothing except weapon there , damn it

south lintel
#

and ring

#

unless arms

fluid heart
#

damn orange parses equal same dps and mid blue parses for other classes right now. how enjoyable....

earnest tiger
#

sound effects on, I get to feel good every time I press TB, who cares where I am on the meter compared to other specs if I'm slapping a boss and feelin good 😎

echo rapids
fluid heart
#

slapping the boss with a wet noodle though

echo rapids
#

Having everything build rage and then spending it when you get enough just feels right

earnest tiger
echo rapids
#

Arms being a builder spender where your resource generation is entirely passive AND dependent on boss uptime feels awful

#

At least energy classes get back on the boss with a full bar when they go do mechanics

idle pagoda
#

Should we go slayer now?

rotund geyser
#

always go slayer

left peak
#

Why is rampage to be spent above 100 range and not before?

earnest tiger
uneven path
earnest tiger
left peak
#

Sure, thought there was something else behind it like a talent, but i would say 7/10 times you have to prio it anyways to reset enrage

echo scarab
#

It’s because over capping rage is technically bad since you always want to be pressing the most valuable button

earnest tiger
left peak
earnest tiger
#

read the prio list properly

left peak
#

That's what im saying my friend

#

Im saying that in most cases you will use ramp even below 100 rage

echo scarab
#

Rage dumping under 100 can put you in situations where the only thing you can press for 2-3 global are your lowest prios

#

Keeping it high typically helps you flow better through your rotation imo

#

Even in a perfect scenario though it wouldn’t make a massive difference

#

We still need a buff lolll 😭