#fury
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@grim lake do u need me re sim or anything or what we thinking sory for ping
sim it tho
Whirlwind now appies rend with on slayer spec
Yeah and a crafted 285 hunt
there's a #updates-midnight channel
Ive run a bunch of sims, but getting literally everything i want, only nets me 1500 dps on sims lmao
oh perfect, thank you!
Myth weapon, myth heart and heroic gaze
1.5k is alot
tho
Anyone still thane fury in keys or what’s the shi rn
I couldnt see anything wird with it tbh
ok so ring should be fine then
Get to go from 91.3k to 92.8k lmao
ty i was kinda just a bit confused why mainstat wouldnt be much better than ring w same substats but diff distribution
ig i need a bit more haste
anybody experiencing issues with strafing rn?
strafing bugged, relogged, works again but stops after hitting a mob lol
depends, does the thing you wanna roll have a good chance of giving you shoulder anyway?
Hey guys, how are you ? Just a question, do you think is fury specialization will be ok after the patch 12.0.5 in mm+ 14/15/16. Or we need to play arms now ? Thank you for your answers
Thane is same as before
coined the wrong trinket, next week! maybe
which one?
if only you read #updates-midnight...
Is reap the storm bugged? I havent seen it trigger once during a delve as slayer
From rampage*
has to hit 3 targets i think
Yep and I kept an eye out during 3 or more add fight but didnt see it go off once
if only boss!
yo guys, quick q. I currently have night enders fists equipped but the stat on there is vers. I did a sim of both of these and it seems better that I would have the Crit stat (on the other gauntlets,) yet the night ends fists still came out on top when simming both at 6/6 hero track.... is it only simming like that because the first gauntlets have the T4 set bonus? I would've thought it would choose crit + mastery over vers
Can you use both rolls on a single kill in raid?
no, and you also dont have enough to do so
You get two this week no?
live and learn for next time!
(and also check id:customize to get an alert when there's a new update)
are you breaking 4p?
cause unless you're also adding legs somewhere, replacing the glove would go down to 3
the increased demolish cdr caught me off guard u get it back SO FAST now
juiced up rn
so whats the verdict for m+ we still go thane ?
yes I would be, probably best not to then thinking about it!
Where to use bonus rolls terrace?
fye
use on chim M if u don’t have gaze
Was considering using cores to fish for a myth track weapon from magister's. Bad call?
Can’t get a mythic gaze to save my life still on champ
I’ve been killing it since 1st week mythic came out
Leveled my monk and got hc and myth gaze on it
Before seeing any on warrior
wtf
i wish i got a beloren kill so i could save ilvl in vaults
Only 40 to max is nice
giga chads is slayer better for keys now? please say yes
No
It's worse
fucked with RR slayer in a 17 seat
"crimes"
is it even ebetter for raid then
why is this not the bald version
I actually think there may be a bug where RR doesnt proc reap
anyone else having a similar thing I just tested on dummy and I am getting alot more procs of reap without ruin?
its OK to drop weapon craft for 2 weapons Vault Mythic ?
sadly the bald one is just a png rather than gif

mf company is so aaaah at everything, now the server has to be in maint
eny one else having problems whit elvui?
Are there going to be token usage guide incorporated into the class guides, or is it going to be a "do as the robot commands" situation?
Slayer or collosus for 18 aa?
bro 
archi does that dmg breakdown look right for my seat?
I feel like slayer right?
:X
feels like ruin isnt proccing reap
Wrong chat kekw
colossus fury? 
How many stacks can the gaze gather?
holy fury
you better get ur aaaah back here
It does, just feels like 2% instead of 20%
that's horrendous 
bruh when BS is top dps breakdown you know its bad
anyone know why 3400 mount achievement not unlocking ? or do i need to npc
when you guys play now, doesn't the slayer feel very elevated?
you did 6 myth with 3 chars?
gamer
How behind are we in damage compared to arms in M+ 
Yes
Holy shit 
25%
What did we ever do to Blizzard lmao
yeah we need to keep this inferior Arms yapping out of here.. Its been running wild lately
We play colossus on most fights now rather than fury?
you play slayer arms
Two weapons, big damage 
for dragons, paladins u play colossus tho no?
yeah im looking into how difficult it's gonna be to regear for arms right now, idk what they are doing but fury sint it
colossus on 1st boss voidspire, dragons and paladins, slayer on everything else
not very,m just crfit back, rings,
its fullsend arms all bosses now?
recraft to crit haste, find a crit haste neck, catalyst boots and belt (both are crit haste)
thats about it
run both npx rings
ye more like dump into the trash can
if you want to prog more efficently i would say arms on every boss
but if you are in a like for fun or unc guild you can stay fury
soon 4/9 myth so
unc iguess
ait ill try out arms, had 98/99 logs as fury and prob shit as arms
thats pretty much the same thing
relearning a whole new spec mid prog might not be ideal when you are already performing at a exceptional level on your current spec
true true, only playing arms in m+ now tho and got a second set
logged a 95 for my ilvl in M vorasius yesterday!! wooooo
lmao
are u talented into the talent lil gup
i did
wait mb
debuff bugged out
now works
W
So fury is definitely over in mm+ ?
if by over you mean dead then no
you can still play either to a pretty high level
the high fury warriors arent far behind the arms warriors
but arms is just better in m+ at pretty much everything
So to mm+16/17 I can play fury and that will be ok ?
yeah
you can play it until +20s probably
then itll start to get very hard to get into keys and the dps checks become harder
Ok thanks for your answer bro. I hope the pug will be continue to choose war fury and not only war arms to clean mm+
i dont think the +16 lvl is flooded with people so
Im pushing +16 now and its hard to find keys, in general
as khazix says, I dont think there is much of a choice
Ya if u get invite
Ok 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
What changes have they made to Fury Thane? I've noticed it hits for less than half the damage it used to.
i assume i can just ditch the non crafted wep ? or? couse im fucking done with fury
they slaughtered my boy in every type of content i liked
should always main hand the higher ilvl
oh shit yeah 
Thats a bait 😂
warrior players are something alright
happens lmfao
Didn't noticed when i simmed i was fucking around with diff weps
but understandable, im also moving away from fury into arms
i have like 3 276 weps and was changing them
you can move off from hunt
recraft your weapon to haste crit no embellishment
then recraft cloak to arcanoweave haste crit
and wrists to haste crit if they arent already
i could really use a haste crit myth weapon man
cheers mate <3 kinda sad since i hit a 97 on mythic averzian nd was happy im finally parsing okay on mythic but ig it's just over with 0.5 patch
however im still waiting for like 90% of addons to be updated since for some fucking reason when i enter the game i get a pinata of errors
Anyone else’s ww tracker crocked with new patch?
i disabled everything except the shit i needed
bro the enrage bar is insanely awfulright now
my enrage bar was pretty much invis all of midnight falls prog tn
you know how it is
give it a day or two
i switched to arms for lura and then my UI blew up with errors and my bars froze
was still pumping 7th or so 
<3 wa prune
give it a few days addonsw ill be fixed at some point
vibe coded expansion i swear
biggest bug was not giving fury flat 10% damage increase
dont ready check
you cannot excpect much from a smal company and a f2p game
duh
come on guys
multi dollar company
at least 2 buckos
hey atleast we get an extra day to catch up now
im dipping ts once i see a legion classic (non-official) server
we hit the end of p2 knockbacks
¿trinket or gloves?
not even joking im not gonna look back
tomorrow is p3 for us as long as we dont regress
box is probably the go but like its box
who wants to use that filthy trinket smh
we adding sunday
hopefully we kill on thursday
next thursday?
hopefully we kill sunday or monday
my guild is on alleria rn im benched since salhadar
hope u having fun pals
dam even on vanguard?
could pull the you coudl go arms route
weapon or mythic gaze ? 😛
dont worry I say from alleria all the way until midnight falls
we had total of 5 melee including tanks
this thursday
the neck tho
on vanguard
we are very consistent in p1 now
yeah but its ok
it lets everyone else go st
in p1
we at 55 percent 1 minute before knockback
how's lura rn btw on mythic
its fun
its pretty much a waiting simunlator tho
on how fast your crystal people pick it up
play khas build i watched him play he is actually doing real damage now
you sac like
or everyone from his guild is suddenly doing 20% less damage
Feels like shit at this stage
Ye its like 90% of wipes
so it makes sense on why they added it
having to take care of a child is hard
leave your child in a beam and it blows you all up
its ok we all kill this week and then we can secure all the good loot on farm with rerolls

*if the rolls actually work
the arms cleave build is pretty fun cause you can use the termination crystals for funnel damage
massive p1 funnel
both our hunters are going BM also
1.3% for weapon 0.7% for trinket
which does 0 crystal damage
but the chanceof getting myth gaze >??? I dont know
so i get to use my cleava more
1/3 if you go prot loot spec
50% you either do or don't
I bonus rolled it today
So i meann
1/3 if you go prot loot spec
Can't wait for next week's slury buffs 
time to find new guild
you could say fuck this shit, i'm playing a game, and i'm a human being, and I don't deserve to be yelled at regardless of circumstance
and then yeah find a better guild
but bothering with retail guilds u havent been a part of for multiple years seems painful so im glad im not bothering with that
Would you guys recommend Gaze or a 2nd 2H weapon? Looking at this sim:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sygxdo2arTyY4ZP29XpDGc
cant you craft a cloak embellishment
you could take wep craft cloak embellishment
would be giga dps
In that sim I am crafting belt embellishment
Fr. My guildies asking me why I dont join a ce guild or higher im like I dont like the commitment and stuff like that
mythic version is very easy to get and you can get much much better long term upgrades
id take socket over a hero alnseer personally
i think you can grab 2nd wep tho
not the worst stats
yea i could mythic raid no problem but i dont wanna spend 4h every few days , already did that with mop throne of thunder and will prob do it for siege too, but on retail i just dont want to tbh
rant over, fury bad im gonna cry in my warrior corner with my funny cap with a spinny thing on
Id like decent players snd do mythic raiding but like I just wanna play game. Dont wanna do splits. Or whatever else
Im also happen to be a top pumper in guild which is both a good and bad thing lmao
My guilds chill. They do more hero reclears then I like snd is struggling on prog but its whatever. When mythic progging comes well attempt it snd see how it goes
u are 100% fine just having 1 main lol
Not wrong
Meant more like hof or early ce
I dont really like mid to alte ce either
Dont wanna raid that late into season and for many days
Just doesnt feel right imo
its like comparing a class b player in football to premier league/championship footballer
if i pick the boots from my vault, will i then have a 50% chance of bonus rolling the trinket? Or can i still end up bonus rolling the boots?
Not how it works
I think bonus roll is bugged rn I wouldnt send
anyone on EU managing to log in?
im in yup
Bonus rolls has its own table
You have ge tthe boots from the rolls in order to not get the boots again
Ah okay got it
who update trincket and weapon after clear void quest forge ?
that happens in 4 weeks counting this week
because they hate us
wtf..
Blizzard doesnt want us to have 298 trinks and weapon thidbesrly
and clear saison on may..
Im fine eith weapon not being out. I need to get the crit one
i wouldnt even really mind the charges being time gated and its like 1 per week
but i think its going to work the same way as the manaflux
who knows
Is bonus rolls resetting each week or
Like its 2 rn. Next week goes up to 4. Are we only getting 2 next week or can we get 4?
Swear I read about limit somewhere on wowhead
Something about 2 increase every week
idk man nobody in my guild knows wtf is going on
But ya know blizzard wording
im just making shit up based on the knowledgeable and intelligent people in my guild
turboboost but better basically
worse imo
Increases by two every week
more gamba
Is it hard capped. Soft. Reset. Or
it probably wont work like you get 2 this week then 4 next week
4 weeks in the cap would be 8 total. Is it resetting to 0
Ic
you can probably save them though
so like if you dont wanna spend this week for whatever reason you can have 4 next week
Dont see a point in saving
yeah
Just full sending it
Not like I havw the crests anyways
Next week gonna be the have more gear then crests
is there a season cap on the rolls do we know?
or is it like from now until end of the season?
i mean this makes more sense, that was a very early turbo boost :D
how do we getbonus roll ?
what damage source is this
well its word of recall of course
isnt that a hearthstone
yep
it probably is attributing something to a hearthstone cast
another reason to ignore the ingame damage meter!
idk why didnt they just push their own damage meter to be the best and having all of the info but that's beyond my comprehension probably
claude vibe coded it and thats how it works
wow stole a lot of shit from dnd
new slayer buffs? 👀
idk i swear blizz tried to make the worst dmg meter possible
like details before was so cool
color coded dmg types, how much dmg on each target and all that
now u get: damage.. and thats it
nothing else
also you could hmmm idk make it look like ANYTHING
that u want
from 1 addon
i loved to be able to see what i spell reflected and how much dmg it did esp as now that im plaiyng tank
i think its reap the storm
but now i have to guess
ok fols, Rampaging ruin does not trigger Reap the storm
altho its fun to relfect 3rd boss in sot and last in skyreach, their cast do insane dmg
Oh hohoho huehuehue
Please be true
That would be especially hilarious
no way
gimmie your talent string
that's bullshit if I dont press Sudden DEath execute for Reap, Rend does more damage than Reap ....
i tested not presssing SD just to see rampage reap triggers
and it;s even worse with Rampaging Ruin
so folks Reap procs only when Ramapge finishes it's cast not on every rampage hit
so now it's even worse than being procced on BT haha
okay rampaging ruin procs reap but holy shit it's so low % it's useless to use
WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS
dont use ruin its shrimple
Yo guys what if we tried to stray away from the target cap of fury
That won't end poorly
even w/o ruin, purely off rampage reap will basically do auto attack damage almost lol
Should just commit to the 5x target cap
better not let any SD goto waste now
ngl this patch seems really buggy on multiple sides
Dev DH is a mess
blizz QA when
Ddh is buffed by bugs rn
When AI can do it
Never
Uhdk is nerfed by bugs
costs money
need more booba milk
my hotbar has the gryphons on side all the time even when i disable it
🗿
I mean, it is quite logical to not hire QA, when you got ppl paying you the company monthly to do it
they are gonna fix that and suddenly they sim 170k
I think it works in the sim
It just doesn't work in game
Warrior is above Arcane, as such needs a nerf
Arcane getting noting pmo

Both arcane and slury were good on tww s3
Might delete the mage if arcane stays as boring as it is now
friend says his procs would randomly light up on hotbars and he doesnt even use any addons for such stuff
xdd
I hate phone
Seems the phone hates you too
i hate my phone too
Not as much as blizz hates warrior thoe
what did warrior do to deserve having so much flak
can we close the discord for like a week
generational hate towards warriors
Arms aint that bad
And nothing will happened
this is a ~ 2min dummies run testing Rampage Reap procs. For science i ignored every SD Execute
Fury is pretty shitty
lovely
tbh hard to say how it would look like with bt
i can already see a massive difference with yesterday even on dummies
warrior = bad becouse it has war in the name
Why would you ignore SD... When SD is the power gain of the spec and what Reap is supposed to be built around

"~ 2min dummies run testing Rampage Reap procs"
Question is if you were using SD or not
yea doing standard rotation
SD goes crazy, like when I pressed it reap was like second in dmg
Should've tested just pressing bt yesterday
execute back on the menu
Was never off the menu
true ig but i miss old execute
the old animation
I think maybe the point is to prove that Reap does less overall dam BT vs Rampage
Tho it is very irrelevant
wish they glyphed that
I think massacre adds the animation
You can try to remove it and see if it helps, though I really like the animation of condemned
condemn with the red trail ooooof
here's a full rotation test, Reap should not be that far below, it was always 2nd or first damage before the patch
odyns is beating it hmmm
Well had fun for one season, then it was kirin prison
And we got the spear cuz of it
yeah our single is so cooked
Fucking out of touch blizzard
spear being unused is a shame it replace ravager with spear and just give spear the cleave buff on arms
Just remove it already
bring back condemn
I second it
so we get nerfed because "oooooo warrior good in execute!"
Can i get voidcores for the last level of voidforge from lfr?
I just dont know what on what planet they buff col single and just leave fury
like???
I miss executing at 100-80% range of boss
who tf cooked this 12.0.5 shit w slayer is fucking garbage
Tbh the rampage iteration of reap proc should be same as on tww s1
20% per target
On 5 target you would have 100%
issue is atm rage is kinda dumb on warrior you either play fury or rage starved arms
also skyfury existing is annoying
You rage starve in exe phase
Begging demo locks for some spare dps
that is not how that works though im pretty sure
It doesn't
buff locks? ok
Used to on tww s1
you never had 100% reap proc
You did, s1 bt, s3 rb
Guys what do you think occlusion of void myth or myth weapon what is more worth it
on 5 targets at 20% chance each, the probability of a proc is 67%
It wasn't probability back then
yes
It was additional 20% per target, not 20% on target
Reap procs after rampage finishes hitting and it seems that it does not take into account the targets
it worked that way in S1 and same in S3

it was the reason BT was a good button above 6 targets as fury until S3 tier set
and exercebated by the change the tier received week 3 or 4
if we trust ingame tooltip the talent literary says, if you hit 3 or more targets rampage has 20% chance period. not 20% change per target
so 1 rampage cleaving 5 targets will only have 20% change to reap
what has the highest chance of giving me sd on arms @frigid zealot
in general never trust tooltips with regards to mechanics, but in tww it was tied to BT (and later RB)
but there's smth fishy with reap currently
BT hitting 5 targets rolled the 20% on each target, but for the S3 tier set RB didnt behave the same way. The week 3 or 4 change to the tier set made RB behave the same way as BT with regards to Reap
So everything you pressed procced reap, making sustained aoe giga good
doesnt it proc from auto swings
idk
passion at an all time low this tier
Found this for s3 tier set, but I swear to God s1 bt was additive not individual
That never was the case. The S3 tier change was to make BT and RB behave the same way
Then it was changed to 67% on 5 target
You never had a 100% chance to proc reap
One thing I recall form S1 was the triple nerf
If you care to, you could prolly find some Critcake S1 keys and see what i mean
Nah I will trust you
thank god cause i cba finding the crit videos
But the 20% felt feels like shit,
everything feels like shit this xpac
this
Which is funny since they had slayer formula in s3
Just make SD proc slayer strikes and RB reap (with some DMG buffs for RB) and we are set.
i find it funny every time fury gets going and gets good gameplay
they move away from it
"oh you guys are having fun and enjoying this version? fug you im taking it away"
thanks blizz
Yeh, fuck us I guess
Love them changing the talent for rampage resetting RB
Like surely this will make us pick it 
I love how they solved issue of making BT more appealing to press by shooting rb in the head
issue is thta crushing blow also is lowkey ass
we went from cb being giga good to this
CB scales of RB numbers
i feel like prio got completely reversed from tww lol
Like at this point to buff our singel they just have to buff RB
Yeh, RB was oppressive due to rampage being ass without at least two or three stacks of SS
as much as i love fury
it also needs a rework because i think blizzard is clueless on what to do with it
granted apparently MM got a mini rework this patch and MM players are saying its scuffed
so i think perma doomed
Hey, but like what pisses me most about fury, its almost good
Like one good patchnote away from being fun and almost meta
i think a numbers touchup would be nice until they can do anything significant
ive bitched about it enough but i really hate that thunder blast has been made so
nothing
I want to play slury, I enjoyed it so much on TWW s3 even thou the RB spam was kinda annoying for like 10th season in row
But it had insane aoe sustain dmg
Great singel target
same
It was just a treat to play
The rend change is really good
Makes slury much more fluent, but holy shit the "20%" on rampage to proc reap is hoax
Feels like 4% maube 2%
maybe the % is scuffed internally
i know cleave on arms works well
get it often enough
Yeah the rotation itself is fine, probably just needs a flat % aura buff and even that wouldn't need to be much
it wouldnt do much unless number was real high
fundamentally AM and some other choices keep our flat dmg profile wack
I guess the trouble with buffing fury ST is they risk making the AOE too overpowered, but it all feels a bit too weak at the moment
what op aoe bro have you seen what some classes do in aoe
Yeah none of it is strong at the moment, our AOE is tied to ST damage though which is what I feel like they're having trouble tuning
man i cant even pad anymore there are classes bursting aoe so fast i dont even see adds
So, is it time to switch to Arms for both Mythic+ and raids?
you could buff the shit out of thunder blast to maybe make us comparable to them but you'd have to do something nasty for that. if you just buff the core abilities like bloodthirst. execute. raging blow and all, we'd see improvements on cleave fights where mobs have a lot of health but
if pepos can do +20s on a fury so can you
devour dh is just fury warr pre nerubarr nerf
well they almost nuked thane yeah lol
but it isn't gonna make us big
getting good is a large part of that though
Think I might swap from arms to fury for keys ngl, doing trash st is kinda ass
Esp in pugs
just do all the aoe damage and only invite BM and paladins to keys
I am saying this for two weeks, the dev dh is fury
just better
and ranged
yeh the 8% fore meta class on aoe and singel was deserved
tyty
@vestal root btw isnt colossus arms now just strait up better then slayer ?
For aoe yeah not st
Overall m+ they’re better pretty sure
anyone got slayer m+ build ?
in overalls and higher keys yeah they are better because tanks will funnel
if you pug id still rock slayer
just asking out of curiosity
I cant get behind arms
I am just too deep into fury I guess
slayer works well ngl its quite fun except execute is rage starvation supreme
I have 280 ilvl and 3100 rating, I am not getting invited to 10 keys by 2400 rating pugs as fury cause influencers said its not meta
feels bad man
colo is messy cd management but top 3 aoe in the game
When I tried it this was depresing
Its more fun to watch paint dry then wait for rage in exe phase on arms
if it only didnt reduce your st dmg
You play slayer or colossus arms xan?
slayer mainly but i gotta practice more colo
I’m just trying to hit 3400 and struggling to get invites atm, I’m almost 3300io, 3 off
you higher than me then
granted i dont take this game too seriously but still
we are not meta and people watch youtube/streamers too much
im 3350 atm and i don't pug too much. when i have the patience to play queue simulator
but id rather inv a warrior than a paladin/devourer
because those 2 good chance terrorists
It’s just jarring because you really don’t need an optimal team to hit 3400
Just you wait, till you get me on Slury with RR
True key terrorist attack
It’s mainly tank dependent from what I’ve seen as long as dps know how to press buttons and defensive
if you are EU id take you anyways i respect that
tanks can giga grief your keys
or giga carry
Yeh I am EU pleb
colo arms depends on tanks heavily which is why i rarely play it
question for the NA gamers does anyone know
Chimareus for prot drops gaze boots and mythic tier chest
I already have mythic tier chest does it count to the loot pool for the reroll system?
Isnt it now more forgiving with the more aggressive CDR on demo ?
it is but still need funneling, need to suffer with ravager being a skill to use
Holy yeh
Real af 🙁
Colo uses ravager xdd
Might just go fury and actually have fun, arms slayer is dope but colossus just feels clunky
Fury actually feels fluid to play
im too deep with crit haste gear for that nowadays
slayer arms is gucci though
being up there on ST feels good for once
I’m the same hahah, gives me something to work towards jsut gonna slowly sidegrade
Yeh I would give arms bit more tries, if my gear wasn't heavily centered around fury
I am thinking of dropping every ounce of crit on my fury and just going full heast mastery
whatever the bot says man
I think bot is trying to sabotage me
So anybody tried the new fury in higher keys? (Slayer)
Pushing me full haste on fury, not carying about other stats
I only have like 3 mythic crit haste pieces and 3 crafted so I can sort out 3 by recrafting and just sidegrade the rest
i mean i got belt and boots catalysted so i wouldnt be swapping them anyways but the resti could recraft or sdwap to mastery
but yeah not worth it, just so i can get depressed seeing fury st
Why would you get rid of all crit?
Isn’t fury st better than arms?
Not anymore
It seems that the bonus loot roll system is entirely separate so having a piece already won’t eliminate it from the list until you get it via rolling. But it’s also really buggy right now
Oh shit, slayer arms then, it’s actually fun compared to colossus imo
I love the real the storm animation
*reap
not at all
arms slayer is quite decent in ST nowadays
now even better
and in m+ still good just 1 talent change now
Kinda sad the slayer arms lost 7% on sustain aoe 
"sustain" but with bladestorm buff we burst aoe well now
Yo fk arms, how does fury look now MT/Slayer nerf or buff whats going on
And does the arms still have to press the rend ?
yeah but rend is not that high on prio for slayer as it is for colo
Can tell me some1 how now sim fury thane/slayer for m+?
MT still better
No, Imean how to sim ?:)
raidbots
dungeon slice/single target 5 min or 8target ?
btw @vestal root 3 min test on dummies with full rotation
why is RR seperate instances
yeah, it was simming lower for me too. but i also don't have as much crit as i could have
im very fury-geared
Ask blizzard
ok time to pop monster some zin and do terrorist attack with RR slury on some 15s
I already have alnseer, mostly care about M+ rather than raid performance.
Can't really decide lmao
Plume sims slightly better but marginal
Can you use this if u already have sword and bracer with embelishment on both ?
ah nvm u cant
blind ass dident see toptext
its same for me and im slarms geared but in actual ST in raids and dungeons arms always pulls ahead
i dont have a good answer
Do we ever press raging blow? Or is that at the bottom of the prio still for both mt and slayer?
It dead at the bottom of the river
Roger that. One less button to worry about
You press it if there is 2 or 1 target and you have nothing to press
I think 3 or 4+ its better just to spam ww
toptext doesnt actually tell you, it just says that its an embelishment and (limit =2)
but u cant use more than 2 yes :D
so how r u guys enjoying slayer fury?
My theory for raid is that fury keep cd for add, so less dmg on boss so less overall than arm
i mean in raid arms rarely has CDs for adds
i play ST build on almost everything except vanguard
fury pads a lot on adds arms doesnt get to do that
its obvious in logs
when you check proper fight like Vorasius, Arms is ahead
on crown hc i also perform way better on arms, from p2 and onwards im often in top 5 compared to fury
I'm looking through the top logs and trying to figure out when to use mt vs slayer in raid. Trying to find a rhyme or reason but I'm not seeing it. When do you use either of the hero talents? When raiding as fury (I know some fights are good for arms like the vanguard)
Seems like the top raiders are all over the place with which spec or hero talents they are using at any given time
honestly, if u dont care about top parsing, and not running in full premade group that can support u
thane logs are way stronger with TB hitting many, while slayer you should try to bladestorm pad at times or rng dependant
just play what you like
I'm just trying to bring my best DPS to my weekly heroic raid nawmsayin?
Feels good to be at the top of the meters
in heroic, i dont see that big use of thane
everything dies too fast for it to be worth
devourers, hunters, locks
they exist
my lock guildie half asleep fucks up his rotation and still pumps like crazy meanwhile i sweat my balls off
Just go arms and play full st
Pointless to bother with people not doing their actual roles
U have 17 devourer dhs in ur raid bro gl
They're holding collapsing star for 3 mobs
just play whatever you like 😄
Yeah it's hc raid just have fun
I practiced arms in hc for a few days before I sent mythic
i just enjoy it more than i enjoy thane
Ok so the question is when to use slayer vs MT not how does fury compare to devourer and warlock. Y'all pull your panties up and quit cryin
i literally told you
We're saying at hc level it doesn't matter
Adds evaporate
dont go thane, unless ur team is gonna let u pad with tclap
if ur team does any sort of aoe mehanich
There's a good chance the mt logs ur seeing are old/parse logs
it will not be better than slayer
You're probably better off sending slayer all bosses unless ur raid players r just bad
If you want a non human answer go ask chatgpt, kinda rude saying that after not reading what we responded.
MT on vanguard if you dont wanna go arms colossus
Is arms slayer single target better than fury slayer? Assuming adds die too fast to pad with aoe
Fury is more uptime dependant
So if u lose uptime often arms will be better
I haven't simmed fury in a while tbf but back when I did arms was like only 5k behind
Interesting okay. I like fury for raid because of the survivability but if the adds are gone too quick to pad with (y'all are right about that) then maybe arms is stronger DPS?
If you have to run around sometimes to do mechanics anyway and lose uptime because kill times are longer than those top guilds
thing is that sims on fury vs arms are kinda scuffed for me
slayer fury sims like 7k more on full arms stats but when i got dummy or st boss its never the case for me
arms is just as tanky, even more
if you wanna stick on the boss arms is better choice, arms doesnt get to pad a lot
You think so? Fury has a lot more self healing
IF you take enraged regen and stuff, but so does arms
Bloodthirst tho
arms also gets die by the sword
True
arms has Fueled by Violence
yall think slayer is just rng bugged or it just works that way,?
use cookie,healtpot and you're good
slayer is 100% rng dependant on your SD procs
but both specs seem to have some bufs atm
bugs
btw they did something to tts voluem
yeah i feel like rampage just does not trigger reap the storm at all? or did i read that wrong
triggers on multiple targets
might be just a feel thing but it def doesnt feel like 20%
but not the reap the storm?
i tried like just using rb whirlwind and rampage
and i might lie but around like 5 min test(dont quote me on that, i think i did like 15-20 rampages)
i did not proc a single time
i have a meeting rn so cant link the picture but i will be able to test it more after the meet
rampaging ruin is a meme
wont catch me using that until they make it so you dont have to worry about aura cancels n shit
i dont use ww on st either way so im gucci 😄
hey is there any change on the thane build for dj?
Yeah same idk
I never felt like I did fury St correct this season
And it's like wtf can u fuck up on it lolc
im just assuming its procs and various other things
and executes and
idk
but slayer arms defo better on st
Feels more consistent for sure
I just hate current fury rage gameplay
Everything overlaps
I enjoyed the hype and then I felt like it's just not as smooth
bring back last season slayer so we can all have fun
amen to that
💯
they hit the feel of slayer just right back then, why change it....
Ik
It's why I went arms
Last season slayer was in fact goated
it just feels wack thta fury needs 200% uptime to even be visible and has no burst
and look what they did smh
its so punishing getting any kind of rng bad mechanic
not to mention the pop rampage above 100 rage is so counter intuitive to many players trying to learn the spec properly
That's what I mean
They mske rampage cost less and u think ok my play is rampage spam to stack apex
Nope
Thats a dps loss
Sending 5 rampage in a row feels amazing
Doing no damage with them does not feel amazing
Buff ramp to be highest prio at all times
And it's somewhat better already
like i was so confused when i came back and read that rotation info at first
why what how
Yea , u cant be having the spender as lower prio than builder , just bad design
Testing RR bit on 3 target and feels like it comes down to rng if regualr rempage or rr is better at this point
gamba gameplay yummy
Yeh, just comes down to if I proc more SDs when using the RR or Rampage
is there a general consensus whether arms or fury is better for m+ after patch?
If you enjoy both spec go arms
ty
but if you prefer fury and play better on it stay fury
Bruh there was so much arms glazing happening in here today I decided to try it out
There is something wrong with people who enjoy this crap
REAL
agree
Arms have 1 dungeon that drops like 4 really good items 
I dont want to farm bloody MT. Theres nothing except weapon there , damn it
damn orange parses equal same dps and mid blue parses for other classes right now. how enjoyable....
sound effects on, I get to feel good every time I press TB, who cares where I am on the meter compared to other specs if I'm slapping a boss and feelin good 😎
Fundamentally I prefer the way fury interacts with rage vs arms
slapping the boss with a wet noodle though
Having everything build rage and then spending it when you get enough just feels right
yeah idk, i didn't try for long but arms just feels like playing a weird game of wack-a-mole, where none of the buttons on their own feel good to press, but you do damage somehow
Idc if it's 25% more damage it feels 1000% worse every single second of it
Arms being a builder spender where your resource generation is entirely passive AND dependent on boss uptime feels awful
At least energy classes get back on the boss with a full bar when they go do mechanics
Should we go slayer now?
always go slayer
Why is rampage to be spent above 100 range and not before?
😂
if you have nothing else better to press you spend it below 100 rage as well
To avoid pressing RB
if you send rampage below 100 rage when you have e.g. BB/BT available then you're 'wasting' that time that it could be used and on cd and coming back off cd again
Sure, thought there was something else behind it like a talent, but i would say 7/10 times you have to prio it anyways to reset enrage
It’s because over capping rage is technically bad since you always want to be pressing the most valuable button
i feel like 90+% of the time if you just follow the prio without even thinking about enrage then enrage stays up anyways - at least for MT, I haven't played slayer at all this tier maybe it's different 🥲
I just double checked one of my logs where I know for sure I not once pressed ramp because of enrage falling off, and it was 100% up outside of mechanics causing it to drop
Yes, enrage is automatic but there a situatiuns when its running out and ur below 100 rage, where you ''could'' use RB, still jumps in prio becuase of enraging
RB is lower prio than ramp even below 100 rage
read the prio list properly
That's what im saying my friend
Im saying that in most cases you will use ramp even below 100 rage
Rage dumping under 100 can put you in situations where the only thing you can press for 2-3 global are your lowest prios
Keeping it high typically helps you flow better through your rotation imo
Even in a perfect scenario though it wouldn’t make a massive difference
We still need a buff lolll 😭