fury

[granite crown]

I guess it would be even higher EV than multiplied by 2 since your first roll will exclude the item for your second roll?

Or how do the stats shake out idk

[undone flower]

It doesn’t matter, you are supposed to roll until you get the item

You calculate those probs by taking the maximum roll needed to 100%

[rare forum]

dont overcomplicate it, just roll

[strong monolith]

Rampage and Bloodthirst are too much fun to press. Nothing else makes me feel that way.

[granite crown]

That's definitely not true for M+ as there will be multiple items of different values

Getting a mid-value item might make another dungeon more valuable

[charred flint]

holly shit

8 hour maintance

how is this allowed

[tardy lark]

thanks for beta testing mate

[charred flint]

damn, we're actually getting our single target nerfed hahahahaha

this must be a yoke

[undone flower]

Yes, so you will pick the dungeon with the longest list of upgrades vs the wish of that unique item

you will need to think about it

[tardy lark]

we were too close to 100k so better take fury st down a bit

let hunters have the add deletion niche as well why not

[undone flower]

Like here, I pick seat bc i thought about it real hard

[quiet geyser]

I mean, every .5 class change was all design changes, no real tuning.

If i had to guess, decent size tuning patch for next week

[true tangle]

i'm just coping on the fact that they've held off on balance for the last couple of weeks waiting to see a week's data on the .05 build

so surely we get some buffs next week

[granite crown]

What's your logic for picking seat there btw, hands too good despite other dungeons having more upgrades?

[undone flower]

Choice is for my char : seat, nexus point or pit

I eliminate pit bc I have too much gain from droptimzer to go on arms journey

Seat or nexus : I get a random ring (or craft) I don’t want nexus anymore

ofc my vault of tomorrow will surely change my decision

[rare forum]

get double nexus rings as fury, they blast

[granite crown]

But then also surely if you send one into Seat and you get gloves that'll change your position heavily right? MT looks a lot better if you're not planning to craft boots?

[undone flower]

If I get gloves I start to roll in nexus

That’s it

[rare forum]

Why would you ever keep crafting with this bonus roll economy? wasted crests for sub-optimal 285 item.

i plan to not craft anything on any char after the patch

[undone flower]

I raid + you might get doggo rolls

[rare forum]

you get 3 myth items every week

vault and 2 m+ rolls

[unborn delta]

You need to craft wrists + cloak anyways

[rare forum]

yea well, we already got those 2 crafted by now

[unborn delta]

and you might never get good rings I think crafting a 285 ring is ok so you can recraft it to swap between fury/arms

[undone flower]

Yes, if I don’t get 3 wearable items next week I have 80 crests on me

[unborn delta]

but I’d rather upgrade my myth primary stat stuff

[rare forum]

but then you might get 2 wearable ones the one after that 🥸

• raid loot

[unborn delta]

I’m prob just rolling for alnseer tbh it’s 1 in 3

[rare forum]

crests too important to waste on craft (after embellishments)

[undone flower]

The last remaining items I get are the worse I need

Bc you pick the best first

The last items you pick in vaults are the ones you gain the less dps

[unborn delta]

hm maybe I should just spam roll xenas to try to get the rings

[undone flower]

I don’t need to save crests for a 289 cloak

[rare forum]

i mean its still somewhat up to rng, true. if you get super fkd with rolls, go ahead and craft

[undone flower]

ofc, it’s after rolling and reclear

[rare forum]

if you are unlucky week 1, your chances skyrocket week 2, remember

[unborn delta]

Isn’t myth uncapped with turbo boost anyways 🤔

[rare forum]

so having crests saved up might not be bad

there is no turbo boost, wat.

[undone flower]

The turbo boost use another currency

Not crests

[unborn delta]

I’m gonna buy a gally boost so I can use dinars on ring

[undone flower]

On alts yes, on my war no since I raid

I want to be maxed possible every week, some exceptions exists ofc

[unborn delta]

after we killed pallies I got a forced vacation until they kill l’ura 🙁

[rare forum]

i want to be maxed for lura push, not mid tier boss , but my raid is slow af anyway LUL

[undone flower]

Im on alleria

[rare forum]

we still on palas

[undone flower]

I did 1 pull of pala as fury

Just to verify my doggo arms skill beats my fury

[rare forum]

haha. i learned arms 1 day before we started palas and now use it for m+ push, kinda dig it there

[slate light]

maybe everyone is holding crest thats why you slow KEKW

[rare forum]

im actually not holding anything, got lucky with drops 😅

just not plan on crafting if i get unlucky next week, might hold one more week then

[unborn delta]

🥄 🐖

[stoic galleon]

Is there a cap to the ascendant voidcores?

[rare forum]

just hope to get seat gloves in vault so i can spamroll nexus for rings and pit for arms stuff

[candid falcon]

anyone here know how puggable mythic chimaerus is?

aka should I save my rolls for it, as a heroic raider

[hybrid wharf]

Stupid question : I know that slayer arm do more damage overall than mountain fury on ST.

I optimized my stuff for fury and when I sim I got a Little more dmg as fury than arm.

Should I play fury or arm for full mono ?

[split elk]

i guess we want to upgrade only myth track items with voidcore? or it upgrades hc to same as myth?

[random shadow]

very

[void yoke]

Gearing has been pretty free this expansion, but I think it's a wild assumption that using an Ascendant Voidcore on a 6/6 Heroic item will push it to 298.

[candid falcon]

neat ty

[random shadow]

its just +9 ilevel

hero will just be +9 to the current max

is all

[fresh mango]

do we know already how many voidcores we get this week? 2 + 1 optional or more?

[abstract tulip]

its still so weird to see mm hunters bursting 700k and then beating them on overall in keys

[lost saffron]

They just bust a huge load and then take a break

[frank dawn]

MM is pretty fuckin doggo outside their 2 min cooldown lol

but that cooldown is a big boi

[dry hawk]

At least you aren't being beaten by a BM Monk that is in all damage and no survival gear in a 10 AA or PoS. Ramp+clap is so underwhelming

[abstract tulip]

shouldnt we prio bt and only ramp to prevent full rage bar

[lost saffron]

ive never seen a fury do damage in my keys ngl

[dry hawk]

Full hard swap to arms in keys might be for me

[split wharf]

I dont wanna arms :/ but then again Im not even at 15res

[abstract tulip]

full hard swap to undead

unholy*

like, how the fuck is it fair scourge strike has a 30yd range

[dry hawk]

I'm trying to do the 3k mount and can't get into keys, even posting my own they see I'm fury and leave

[lost saffron]

How is that the thing that you think is unfair with unholy

[frank dawn]

wait, Scourge Strike is 30 yard range? wtf lol

[lost saffron]

understandable tbh

[frank dawn]

I mean it lets them continue the bulk of their rotation at range. That's pretty giga, and the same reason they nerfed paladins after Dragonflight lol

[lost saffron]

its the clawing shadow talent that has existed since wraith

[abstract tulip]

its a melee class with its main damage ability being 30yd
the hardest part about melee was always uptime and its alot easier to keep high uptime if you can damage from 30 yds away lol

[split elk]

am gonna start +17/18s swap this reset and looks like its forced arms swap, but bad thing is u gotta play colosus instead of slayer and its annoying af 🙁

[lost saffron]

tbh in m+ you rarely lose uptime

with proper play

[frank dawn]

yeah but if the button you spend 60-70% of your gcds on doesn't require proper play

that's kinda big

[dry hawk]

Playing fury is great, don't get me wrong, but it just has no ST, I wonder what I even sim as arms

[oak ice]

My damage as fury in keys is fine rarely not number 1 in pugs in 15's

[lost saffron]

i feel like thats something that shows more in generally worse players

[random shadow]

even lower lol

[abstract tulip]

yeah we just have constant pressure which is great depending on how your tank pulls

[split elk]

thats why slayer was more fun cuz u can do more sustained dmg and not just wait for stupid demolish

[lofty ferry]

I have a random question I'm having a hard time finding definitive info on online. What is the shape of the improved whirlwind cleave? Is it 360? frontal? does it chain from targets? First time playing warrior since like... Vanilla so I just want to make sure I'm firm in how everything works.

[random shadow]

then play slayer

you dont lose much in ST in keys for arms, multitarget is a decent loss tho but theres gonna be folks still playing slayer in higher

[split elk]

if i want to push hard rio i think it will have to stay aside to play slayer

[lost saffron]

wild, i havent seen any fury deal damage

[random shadow]

folks doing 20-21 as slayer

why cant you then

[split elk]

wont after the changes or?

[random shadow]

people still probably will

[split elk]

we will see, but am usually minmaxing and am afraid the minmax will be on colosus

[split wharf]

not minmaxing called Meta cucking

[split elk]

same shait

looks like only one slayer high key gonna be AA

[split wharf]

true, but I thought of doing the same thing rofl

[split elk]

xddd

[oak ice]

Sneakiee- us area 52

[dry hawk]

I'm tempted to try a slayer key but I feel like it will do less

[random shadow]

i mean MT is also slayer

[split wharf]

Fury?^

[random shadow]

@split elkhttps://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/47?class=Warrior&spec=Arms&heroTree=60

[abstract tulip]

is NA dead

[random shadow]

always has been

[split elk]

ye but thats not post 0.5 xd

[random shadow]

besides race

[random shadow]

youre not understanding the point here man

but its ok

[split elk]

then correct me pls thats why am here tbh

[lost saffron]

first key i click on youre last

lmao

[split elk]

i play slayer rn cuz it is better and better playstyle with it

[lost saffron]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fNanCmAJvW4bTRpY?fight=2&type=damage-done

[split elk]

after changes its gonna by the playstyle only xd

[random shadow]

its not even better currently pre .5 lol

but its still gonna be fine to push higher keys even after .5

its just some copium youre having rn

[oak ice]

lol yea not gunna be too every key clearly as I stated

[split elk]

pity we cant say that for fury thats gonna be fine ine high keys

[random shadow]

furys ok in higher keys, 20s are being done, its just arms is better

[lost saffron]

you are playing with some demons though

[random shadow]

noxiv and yuki trying theier best to keep fury somewhat in high keys :kek

[lost saffron]

you do similar damage than they do, your key% is 80 and theirs is like 20 to grey

lmao

the people are just insanely bad

[chilly fractal]

NA had a solid run from November 2004 until February 2005

[thorny pier]

Is the storm sturge nerf actually gonna make a huge diff for mountain thane

[random shadow]

theres no nerf to it

[thorny pier]

Isnt it like a 40% damage diff on thunder clap

[void yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[chilly fractal]

#updates-midnight message

[thorny pier]

Oh good theres a faq, thanks

[tiny seal]

[compact siren]

Link gigondas key

[lost saffron]

i dont think i have any logged keys

lmao

you can check

[compact siren]

Gigondas is a pumper

I don’t need to check

It was a test

[lost saffron]

i think its the name not the player

[compact siren]

Every Gigondas blasts

[lost saffron]

if you wanna deal damage just rename to gigondas

you will deal damage even as fury

(impossible)

[pale sentinel]

Fury slayer is going to be Meta

I believe

[undone flower]

Blizz is fixing rampaging ruin it just takes more time to cook

[split elk]

if ur tank takes only big pulls it maybe can

[lost saffron]

you kinda need to in high keys

else youre not making timer

[split elk]

well as slayer on most bosses u are cooked

cuz no reap from rampage xd

[bitter palm]

humble colo arms in big packs

[lost saffron]

love colo arms

worst specc in the game gameplay wise

[valid pulsar]

guys how do you track kicks or cds from others ? Is there an addon people are using to share the data somehow or is it completely impossible now

i saw that

[bitter palm]

wtf

false!

[thorny pier]

Deleted because its troll but it might actually be true

[pale sentinel]

Don't we still prio rampage in a slayer build?

[split elk]

we do but no reap proc on st

[burnt oxide]

Reap is only triggered if you hit 3t with rampage

[split elk]

or if am wrong correct me

yup

so basically u play slayer but u dont till 3+ targets xddd

[thorny verge]

What dungeon are you guys gonna use the rolls at?

[remote bobcat]

Do we just droptimize M+ and Raid for the bonusroll things?

[thorny pier]

You use the rolls in AA so you can continue to get stardust rings and chestpieces you don't care about instead of the dumbass puzzle box

[spare steppe]

Bonus roll js a “do you have bis trinket” scenario

[lost saffron]

I just roll in random dungeons

[spare steppe]

If yes, what about second bis trinket

And then dungeon hunting imo

[dry hawk]

Bonus rolling will delay the 2 set rings

[spare steppe]

2 set rings isn’t even bis though

Trinkets go hard

[chilly sapphire]

idk they sim better than any other mythic ring fo rme.

[dry hawk]

Um what? Where at, last I looked at archon or io some were running them, and I got the raid trinkets

I avoid wowhead now lol

[chilly sapphire]

Even the heroic set outsimes mythic rings, lol.

(For me at least. )

[remote bobcat]

I have bis trinkets so idk

[bitter palm]

hi kronzo five seven

[remote bobcat]

Hi coner2

[bitter palm]

ilvl check

[remote bobcat]

282

[dry hawk]

Like I highly doubt my veteran/champ set would out sim my mythic/heroic rings

[bitter palm]

🍽️

wt

ff

[remote bobcat]

Why?

[bitter palm]

trinket check

[chilly sapphire]

Yeah, running hc set.

[bitter palm]

🍽️

fed

🥄

[remote bobcat]

Dk gaze and averzian trink

Gripduty

Lalalalaa

[bitter palm]

noo....

[remote bobcat]

I was fed yea i missed a week due to irl shit and then every drop went to me cuz idk why ask them

[bitter palm]

worst warrior tier since cn no

raid that is

[remote bobcat]

I think so too

[bitter palm]

i watched some revvez povs from sl

2+ warriors every boss

...

[remote bobcat]

Manadork woulda been worse if it wasnt for the hotfix

[digital mauve]

Ret doing good both on raid and M+, not counting the utilities... Well

[remote bobcat]

Damn

[proud oar]

Can I find an overview anywhere of abilities that can be spell reflected?

[bitter palm]

3 warriors on jailer

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iWosKtsYaW7NnAMnLi8g24 no where close

[bitter palm]

for echo

[bitter palm]

check pins in this channel

[lost saffron]

@mossy fox Its been a while: Hosen check

[uneven path]

They are doing good/great since DF rework and when they don't they get hot fixed so...

[dry hawk]

That's ok, I got promoted to raid tank for a night

[spare steppe]

Archon is just more commonly used; most folks don’t have double mythic rings so heroic set sims great

Wowhead is great

And very good, but simming is still king

[dry hawk]

Wowhead destroys computers

[sour pollen]

did they revert thane nerf ?

even with clap spam i'm still last on dps on first pull

[uneven path]

Yeh

[sour pollen]

nice

[split elk]

y thane is untouched

[sour pollen]

i never played arms and i dont have gear

[golden solstice]

Will the minor changes change anything we do for 12.05?

I feel like we need a bigger ST buff

[sour pollen]

if that came trough fury wouldve been unplayable

[uneven path]

I will play some slury tomorrow just to be forced back into MT and spamming TCs

[sour pollen]

or they should buff rend dmg to make up for it imo

[uneven path]

Nope MT still beats slayer

[sour pollen]

slayer feels akward to play imo

doing whirlwind inbetween feels off dno why

[golden solstice]

Maybe we will get a rework/ buff in 12.1

[desert vessel]

So Arms is better than Fury rn?

[sour pollen]

it is

going higher than 17 + i would advice that spec

donno about changes abt tommorow tho

[golden solstice]

arms is just better for higher keys and thats it?

[sour pollen]

from looking at data yes

its just anoying to switch because of the diffrent stat prio

[spare steppe]

I’m confused

[sour pollen]

else id give it a try and was mad abt clap spam nerf

[jagged plover]

For raid Fury is better ?

[sour pollen]

i use it in raid but its still ddogshit

xD

[jagged plover]

Yyyy

[sour pollen]

if i dident have AP buff i would get guildkicked

[jagged plover]

Ok i go arms thx

[uneven path]

Idk I don't think there is need to swap, fury is able to do 20s

[sour pollen]

just look on warcraft logs

just because i say so doesnt mean it is

or raider io

[burnt oxide]

One fury being able to does not equate to you being able to

[sour pollen]

ye im managing

[visual kiln]

If you do high M+ and mythic raiding you're probably best off just playing Fury in all content so you don't have to manage two very different stat prios.

[golden solstice]

I miss how arms played in BFA

[sour pollen]

they should fix slayer back for single target i guess like TWW

[abstract tulip]

do you also miss corruption?

[sour pollen]

ye this is what i do

[golden solstice]

aye i got TWD right away and was slappin lol

corruption was annoying but so fun and broken lol

[fading bane]

Fury is worse in all content atm

[dry hawk]

No need to be confused. You probably don't have the problem where it crashes your whole PC within 5 minutes of opening a tab

[sour pollen]

its not great i find indeed also

[uneven path]

Just give slayer back the part of S3 set when SD proced slayer strikes

[past hazel]

Idk man, I’m gapping people who should be doing more than me

[sour pollen]

being best on single target and multitarget on one class should be illigal

in same spec

[spare steppe]

I’m concerned now for your computer

Which browser and do you have an active adblocker?

[sour pollen]

yes that seems fair

[dry hawk]

Happens on any device I use and any browser lol

[uneven path]

I loved that set as whole the RB procing storm and SD SS... Good old times

[dry hawk]

Doesn't happen on any other website lol

[spare steppe]

I’m sorry friend

Icyveins is good too, also managed by archi

[sour pollen]

i never played slayer in mplus last season but i know it was bonkers

might go ret as soon as ret is bad for 0.5 ms its buffed again

pretty sure 80 % play ret lol

[lilac root]

with thane getting nerfed and slayer getting buffed, is thane worth using anymore?

[tardy lark]

thane is not getting nerfed

[rare garnet]

Are the thane nerfs in the room with us right now?

[spare steppe]

Slayer got nerfed too

Check #updates-midnight

[dry hawk]

I use IV for war sometimes yeah but mostly look at logs and IO

[drifting token]

Thane didn't get touched big dog

[uneven path]

You didn't have much burst but holy sustain aoe

[lilac root]

thanks, so the patch notes are just wrong?

[uneven path]

You could just pump for hours

[tardy lark]

not wrong, just not accurate xdd

[mossy fox]

On

[lilac root]

awesome, thanks for the info

[mint oracle]

Any hope that rampage will have a chance per hit to proc reap for whatever reason ?

[fickle vector]

We cooked? This is overall boss damage.. fury needs something for ST??? Tuning coming soon I hope? Fury cleave seems to be just non sustained as all other classes are just deleting adds in cleave opportunities taking away the sustained pump there

[coarse nest]

It’s warrior general

Arms is just inflated by paladins

This raid does not favor warrior dps whatsoever

[fickle vector]

Kek

[coarse nest]

We can’t even claim add pad because other specs do it better

[spare steppe]

Slayer actually got a ST nerf

So there’s you’re tuning

[dry ether]

spam ignore pain guys

its gonna get better

[hushed coyote]

so gg warr? :c

[unborn delta]

They will give warrior bloodlove

[elfin hollow]

time to shut down discord, I ve heard it helps or something 😎

[stoic loom]

Just wait for 13.0

[undone flower]

Bloodlove

[stoic loom]

We'll be ok

Trust

[dry ether]

surely

[frank harbor]

sur

then wait for 13.5

[elfin hollow]

Resilience will fix it

[frank harbor]

or 14.0 :p

[solemn ore]

So do we just run arms now in raid???

[undone flower]

Last wow patch will make war

[solemn ore]

Seems like fury is just bad rn even after today’s patch

[elfin hollow]

we run arms on paladins and bench on everything else

[solemn ore]

Makes sense lol

[spare steppe]

at least it’s fun to play

So we got that going for us

[native island]

https://tenor.com/view/kafka-copium-hsr-trailblazer-honkai-star-rail-gif-9358671466355047153

[vast token]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-2665742826959095609

Rend Enjoyers rise up!

[solemn ore]

So am I getting this right. Warriors got nerfed on top of already being nerfed??

[golden solstice]

Blizz always hates us...

[spare steppe]

I deleted that button

[uneven path]

As Mt you can

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1l7GT4n3CGTzW

[spare steppe]

As well as slayer if you have imp whirlwind

[split wharf]

And now as Fury Slayer rofl

[spare steppe]

Which you can pick up at the sacrifice of ER

[south lintel]

Servers down all day?

[vast token]

I would pregnant man react you if I could. As a way to fix my urge take this:
🫃

[spare steppe]

Soooo fuck rend, I’d rather WW on one target that use that button

[golden solstice]

basically 3pm PST T_T

[sweet palm]

I see a lot of crying here but not on were it matters, we should be flooding the foruns like a bunch of dickheads.

[royal copper]

When i insert Odyn's Fury on the Cooldown manager it disaspears after a relog - But Recklesness and Avatar remains?

• Why is that?

[dense elbow]

cause it aint essential and blizz wants you to know it

[long cosmos]

slayer st at least has to be near dead as we dont have bt to proc reap the storm anymore but ww/rend is a good thing

[crisp estuary]

tomorrow was a warrior fury nerf?

[vocal gyro]

It is impossible for Fury to be great again as long as it’s bound to the chains of 5 target cleaving whirlwind, unless Blizzard really wants Fury to be broken.

[junior oyster]

I imagine reading this chat is what dementia must feel like

[long cosmos]

zug zug

[spring fox]

We're warriors. Can we really lose what we never had?

[crisp girder]

Fury dead

[supple lotus]

Yep
Its gg

[long cosmos]

I had a braing than I hit recklessness coming out of the womb

[oblique thistle]

God I love blizzard

They are so smart and intelligent

[unkempt oasis]

They need to tend to specs that are really struggling. Like Devour DH. Those poor guys.

[oblique thistle]

And dont forget unholy dk

They need all the help they can get 🙂

[fickle vector]

Welp bois, I’m not over reacting but will be accepting the holy light and swap to ret for a few weeks to see if blizz can get their shit together

[oblique thistle]

Dont worry guys there's so much open design space for single target buffs now, surely itll be any week at this point

[supple lotus]

You mean more single target nerfs right?

[oblique thistle]

Gah silly me you're totally right!

[crisp girder]

Slayer St is dead 🪾 for sure

[supple lotus]

Idk just feels like blizz flips a coin every season to decide which war spec will get to sit in the corner and think about what it has done till next season

[crisp girder]

How's mountain thane aoe?

[olive wraith]

It’s fine

[long cosmos]

better than and easier than slayer

[tawny heron]

so when are we pulling a ret and shutting stuff down to get some st?

[long cosmos]

read announcments archi breaks it down

[young swan]

wont be doing that

[olive wraith]

When that will actually accomplish something

[long cosmos]

were warriors not some pink hearted bloody karens

[oblique thistle]

In all seriousness does this nerf to slayer st actually mean anything? No not really
Is it a little offensive given current tuning numbers? Sure

[rare garnet]

900% auto attack buff inc

[long cosmos]

for me its not even a numbers thing the game play just feels so wrong with slayer

[olive wraith]

Explain?

[unkempt oasis]

Slayer is more fun imo

[rare garnet]

Slayer needs passive improved whirlwind at all times, counting hits my brain cell

[oblique thistle]

Slayer will feel slightly better with not having to press rend in aoe anymore

[unkempt oasis]

Warrior no count. Warrior smash.

[oblique thistle]

And reap on rampage makes more sense

[olive wraith]

Please don’t simplify fury any more lmao

[long cosmos]

well before slayer was rewarded by hitting bloodthirst in st triggering reap the storm not the main reap the storm proc is 3 target WW hit. so bloodthirst feels less rewarding to hit both in st and in aoe

[oblique thistle]

The single target nerf is just an unfortunate side effect

[olive wraith]

Bt is still a good button though

Also, the main reap proc is sd and aoe ramp

[young swan]

offensive perfectly encapsulates most warrior changes (or lack thereof)

[echo rapids]

Blizzard doesn’t want you playing dps warrior

It’s a DK/ret that doesn’t have class fantasy

I honestly think they are bored of warrior

[supple lotus]

Meanwhile arms has been buffed for like the 5th time in a row?

[echo rapids]

But careful buffs

[olive wraith]

Arms was in the gutter start of season

[echo rapids]

Nothing that might risk them being really good

[junior oyster]

Untrue af

[unkempt oasis]

Warrior has great class fantasy. It is that normal guy who says "Imma do something." With no real powers. Just balls.

[tough onyx]

no matter the class the same talk huh?

[junior oyster]

^

[young swan]

warrior class fantasy is ass

cause it doesnt exist

[echo rapids]

Warrior lacks a clear and obvious class fantasy

[unkempt oasis]

Hard disagree

[olive wraith]

Blizz just has no creative design choices for warrior

[young swan]

anything unique to us has been pawned off to other classes

[sick pagoda]

make it make sense man...

[olive wraith]

“Rend is iconic”

[junior oyster]

You need sparkles and flames everywhere for class fantasy? That's just a limited imagination

[echo rapids]

Look at our hero trees

[unkempt oasis]

Warrior should baseline get that undying talent

That'd be fun

[worn rain]

"But...but herioc strike b-baka"

[long cosmos]

how the hell does 2 m+ meta specs get buffs?

[crisp girder]

Rend has always been shite

[olive wraith]

I think our hero trees are okay

[sick pagoda]

and fucking insane buffs too

[young swan]

think slayer for fury still kinda sucks

[queen onyx]

Lmao, why? UDK is doing fine

[long cosmos]

it sucks because of our ssutain aoe and lack of cleave above 5 targets versus MT

[young swan]

i dont really care about that much

i care about the inconsistency of BS cdr

[unkempt oasis]

Ask the tank to only pull 5. Easy fix honestly.

[long cosmos]

easy asnwer to that make AM effect BS again

[olive wraith]

That’s still inconsistent

[young swan]

you will still do less than pretty much every spec in the game

[olive wraith]

Unless you remove the execute cdr

[long cosmos]

we had both in TWW

and worked fine

[echo rapids]

Thane and slayer just get procs and modifiers

[remote drift]

Is Mt or slayer better for m+ now?

[olive wraith]

It desynced

[long cosmos]

why does am effect avatar but not BS its the same node

[abstract tulip]

how in fucks sake is unholy dk getting another buff

Unholy DK 3-4% 7-10%

[dry hawk]

Make execute actually do damage

[long cosmos]

theres a dream

[unkempt oasis]

Unholy was struggling.

[olive wraith]

Honestly rather bs not be the focal point of slayer

Make it execute

[echo rapids]

Execution Sentence is a spell in the game but it’s not for slayer

Wild

[abstract tulip]

Despite Blizzard's patch notes, the Storm Surge nerf was fully reverted, leaving Mountain Thane completely unchanged and still the best specialization for Mythic+ or most raid fights featuring adds. However, its single target Slayer build has actually lost a small amount of damage due to the reshuffling of its abilities, leaving a lot to be desired as it continues to sink to the bottom of raid performance.

[long cosmos]

truthfully i love spinning my heart out and loved 30-40 sec BS timers in TWW

[queen onyx]

Antorus fury treatment:(

[olive wraith]

I dislike bs personally

[echo rapids]

I’m convinced we would get more attention if our hero trees went all in visually and thematically

[lost saffron]

In key with a french warrior now

[olive wraith]

Still feels arms to me

[lost saffron]

surely hes gonna be doing damage

[young swan]

it should be 1 of 2 things, get it so frequently that you dont care about holding for reck, or have it align exactly with reck

sorry that was meant to send like 5 minutes ago in reference to BS

[echo rapids]

Do you want to BS every 15 seconds?

[young swan]

every 30 is fine

just like in tww

[coarse nest]

Same thoughts

[worn rain]

short BS on short CD sounds cool ngl

[coarse nest]

30 second reck/of/bs sounds sick

[long cosmos]

no but BS in tww felt great at 30-40 sec intervals but blizzard wants that niche to no be filled by odyns fury via the 4 pc

[young swan]

yeah i guess

i cant remember who it was, maybe funkykitty, but someone suggested OF as a secondary aoe rage spender

[long cosmos]

YES IT DOES

[young swan]

thought that would be cool

[echo rapids]

That’s a whole redesign though

[young swan]

yeah but not exactly a hard one

[echo rapids]

Like ground up

[long cosmos]

ALSO 30 SEC CDS is basically bm hunter in a nutshell

[young swan]

just give it no CD and an equivalent rage cost

[dry hawk]

Feels like the 45s egg boss in anserek raid

[coarse nest]

Imagine the conditions for whether or not you press ramp with meatcleaver vs OF

Xdd

[echo rapids]

Imagine it would get rid of IWW and meat cleaver and all that

[olive wraith]

Change RR to this?

[young swan]

would have to be a capstone for sure

but yeah, something like that

like conceptually, yeah, it would replace RR

[olive wraith]

Essentially making it your soft cap aoe

[echo rapids]

Odyns should be thane only for more Norse god of thunder synergy

[olive wraith]

OF/bs node kinda made sense

[echo rapids]

Yeah

[long cosmos]

i like hiting odyns fury again but not at the epxense of BS for slayer

[olive wraith]

Until they made it the tier lma

[echo rapids]

And then avatar vs reck node

[golden solstice]

i feel like come Last Titan they should rename odyn's fury since we will prob be fighting against him and the titans

[olive wraith]

In last titan they should actually make a well designed warrior class

[echo rapids]

[smoky vale]

xan who is 57

[young swan]

praying for the titankiller hero spec to materialize

[echo rapids]

They’ll use all their Gemini prompts on tinkerer

[golden solstice]

turn us into Kratos and rage against the gods

[lunar urchin]

rage against the devs is the only possible option

[unkempt oasis]

Didn't warlocks have Hand of Gul'dan against Gul'dan?

[echo rapids]

I just want to use the warrior class hall teleport as an attack

[abstract tulip]

also devour gets a buff too

lmao

whos in charge of balancing, unholy and dh mains?

[echo rapids]

I’m telling you guys, this is still midnight beta

[chilly sapphire]

On the note of full redesign; wasn't fury supposed to get a work-over in this xpack anyhow? Even if they walked back literally every change.

[young swan]

yeah lol

[sick pagoda]

Piercing Howl!! Insane

[echo rapids]

Rend: am I a joke to you?

(Yes)

[dim spindle]

All aboooooard the DOOM TRAIN

[rare garnet]

We got our rework. Swapping BT and RB. Crit is good now. Blessed.

[sullen dove]

st fury nerfed lets buff devourer demo lock and uhdk in single target and aoe

[dim spindle]

Positive vibrations my brothers in fury

Irey I

[sullen dove]

we are definitely not experiencing a gas leak at blizzard hq

[chilly sapphire]

Idk, just feels like who ever be pulling the strings on warrior design is always filing to their ideas.

[golden solstice]

How are our Arms brothers feeling?

[rustic wharf]

more like neurons leak

[olive wraith]

Arms is good

[potent thicket]

demolish

[dim spindle]

Gas leaks can be fun. I've made some of my best friends in my own head during gas leaks

[potent thicket]

quite love it

[coarse nest]

Arms owns

We’re happy

[echo rapids]

Arms seems happy but that’s the Stockholm syndrome

[olive wraith]

Might play a bit weird afaik but it’s numbers are good

[echo rapids]

Good in keys, middle of pack in raid is enough

[coarse nest]

Imagine demolish every 15-20 seconds

That’s arms today

[dim spindle]

No

[chilly sapphire]

Again, initial redesign of arms with current numbers would've been miles better.

[olive wraith]

I like demolish

[echo rapids]

They almost got rid of ravager lol

[dim spindle]

I stopped by the arms channel yesterday to offer a trade, OF for Demolish. They bullied me out of the channel 🙁

[chilly sapphire]

Almost got rid of CD stacking...

[smoky vale]

hey sorrdish

[unborn dome]

Where did you find this pic?

[echo rapids]

Imagine having a modern class design 😑

[olive wraith]

It’s sad the only thing Blizz has done to make OF usable is reduce cd

[sick pagoda]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/estimated-class-tuning-for-patch-12-0-5-devourer-dh-buffed-again-marks-aoe-381295#comments

its sad news

[echo rapids]

Buffs soon surely, biz does care about ST raid dps

Surely

[shadow wraith]

Idk, fury will always be better than arms in raid after 12.05?

[coarse nest]

What’s crazy is unholy already great in keys

[olive wraith]

No

[coarse nest]

Now they get another 10%

[echo rapids]

It’s already not

[dim spindle]

You can remove the "in raid after 12.05" and you're right on the money

[next marlin]

Hi fellow warrior brother, i can't stand another nerf on my beloved spec, should i reroll to a 2 rotation garbage class to make some dps ?

[south lintel]

I wanna meet our class writers

[olive wraith]

Up to you friend

[south lintel]

They seem lazy af

[frank crystal]

After tomorrow what we running now in keys ? Fury thane or arms will be better ?

[dim spindle]

Thane still

[olive wraith]

Arms already better

[echo rapids]

You can create a ChatGPT account whenever you want

[dim spindle]

oh sorry, arms would be better

[chilly sapphire]

Warrior is prob shared between designers of other classes, basically the bastard child.

[dim spindle]

Misread arms as slayer somehow. Probably because we're in the FURY CHANNEL

[south lintel]

Lmao forreal

[dim spindle]

But it's now officially # Arms 2

[sage ridge]

Honestly it's reroll time

[frank crystal]

So go arms for also better ST?

[echo rapids]

Better boss damage, better execute

[sage ridge]

Unholy and Dev getting buffs while we get a st nerf while being garbage calls for a reroll

[olive wraith]

It’s warrior or bust for me

Most I’ll do is swap to arms

[next marlin]

what class is like the fury in term of feeling, hunter, maybe a caster ?

[olive wraith]

None

[echo rapids]

Honestly this shouldn’t be a surprise. Devourer, DK, mage etc all got lots of blue post comments on their beta changes

[south lintel]

Buffs in s3 dw

[coarse nest]

Alright which one of us pissed off a person with connections to the dev team

Smdh

[dim spindle]

I have a warlock collecting dust I should really get around to leveling. But I'm afraid I'll commit the ultimate warrior sin and switch to demo full time if I get her to 90 and geared up

[echo rapids]

The signs were there

[next marlin]

not even a close one ?

[olive wraith]

Not for me

[dim spindle]

I'm convinced it was our relentless teasing of Arms when they were 6 feet under for a bit there

[chilly sapphire]

I mean this is warrior going into literally any xpack.

[dim spindle]

Again... karma is real

[olive wraith]

Def won’t be a caster lmao. Unless fire mage I guess

[chilly sapphire]

as in, left in the dust.

[next marlin]

well maybe it's time to leave wow i guess

[sour pollen]

we should ally rally and complain abt warrior xD

[sage ridge]

I mean why are they scared to overbuff us then proceed to buff the best classes in the game by a big margin

[dim spindle]

Turns out, warrior dev mains arm now. Or their egirl "gf" does

[compact knot]

Yo guys if you want to play fury warrior I would log out and level a dh and spec devourer, it does everything fury does but 1.5x better and is ranged and also just aa tanky lol

[olive wraith]

This happens on the forums all the time

[chilly sapphire]

They'll give us a touch up in the last patch, before repeating the process.

[sage ridge]

Like why did warrior get any nerfs to AOE at all

Should have just been a fat st buff

[olive wraith]

It didn’t

[echo rapids]

Play unholy, it does the same but is even tankier

[compact knot]

Unholy is bait

[echo rapids]

And apparently grip is a real raid buff now

[dim spindle]

Right but it's not very fun to play. So I hear

[sour pollen]

what happens is A large poeple roll meta at start season and then they complain its not as good as they tought as to sticking to one class lmao

[dim spindle]

But then again... nobody plays this game for "fun". That's ridiculous

[crude crater]

The carpal tunnel isn't worth the results

[compact knot]

Idk man dropping 700k aoe nukes every 15 seconds seems fun as fuck

[next marlin]

unholy is garbage in term of feeling, you just let some NPC shit do the job, it's awfull

[olive wraith]

Which class

[sage ridge]

Arms slayer got hit by like 7% and Colossus 2%

[dense elbow]

[lyric panther]

this is fine

[echo rapids]

My raid team has like 9 leather already

[tiny seal]

Buffing Dk and Dh sure bro

[dim spindle]

Meta > fun. It's just science

[crude crater]

I mean. I said that in the fury channel of the warrior discord. Soooo....

[coarse nest]

Take that same thing and also splice in the wcl weekly rankings

[olive wraith]

Oh that’s arms. They’re fine

[tiny seal]

Fucking dogshit company

[marble apex]

@lyric panther how can this be possible...? this blizz sucks

[dense elbow]

[olive wraith]

Fix your keybinds

[next marlin]

i play it for fun, but when you see your class just pick one time per raid just for the buff and your dps is garbage it's not great if you want to make hl pve content

[echo rapids]

Mythic boss damage

[dim spindle]

🙂

[sick pagoda]

top 4 got buffs or neutral changes... ggs

[compact knot]

Arms had the highest overall in most keys who cares about that getting nerfed

The st got buffed

[dim spindle]

wtf is that font

My eyes

[echo rapids]

lol Warcraft logs on mobile

[lyric panther]

I thought it was a wordsearch

[sage ridge]

I don't even disagree but if Dev and Unholy are getting fat buffs then it doesn't make sense to nerf

[echo rapids]

It’s not a smooth experience

[compact knot]

Arms changes good

[next marlin]

guys, you really want to change all your stats to switch to a spec less fun than fury ? (we're not fury because it's meta i guess)

[compact knot]

Unholy is not the spec to worry about I promise u, dev dh though...

[spare steppe]

I just want to understand why ddh got a buff

That’s it

[coarse nest]

ddh is the omega problem

[spare steppe]

And why we got a nerf actually

[sudden tusk]

whats most likely happening

is they are making changes on how classes function

[compact knot]

Ddh is god tier

[sudden tusk]

after they see the impact they will buff/nerf classes

[sick pagoda]

mascot role for Warr?

[dim spindle]

So you're saying there's a chance

[coarse nest]

That sounds too reasonable

[sudden tusk]

other issue is the raid will have to be nerfed if dh and mm hunter get shot

[sage ridge]

You're right but I feel like it's still dumb to see them get buffed by that much

[olive wraith]

I do think this is a better gameplay decision for fury

Just stupid that nothing is being done for st

[sudden tusk]

so you're probably going to see more raid tuning on top of class changes hopefully soonish

[cinder parcel]

nah blizzard just like to kill warrior for fun

[compact knot]

Idk I'm not even sold that it's THAT big of a buff

[smoky vale]

what did they buff about them

[spare steppe]

“We hear your feedback and rampage was nerfed by 4% and raging blow buffed by 0.5%”

[dim spindle]

I feel like if I go through the effort of setting up my Arms UI, keybindings, etc, change my gear/stats, and get the hang of it... within a week they'll get nerfed and/or fury gets an overdue buff

[lost saffron]

Every single warrior

in keys

[coarse nest]

The pains of fotm gaming

[sullen dove]

we talking about the warrior?

[dim spindle]

More context?

[sullen dove]

And not the fuckin ele?

that shits some gio cosplay

[somber elk]

do we know what ilvl crafted weapons voidforged have?

[dim spindle]

Is that ST or what

[lost saffron]

Ele had 220 ilvl

was a boosted char

[dim spindle]

Warrior died?

[coarse nest]

294 I think

[dim spindle]

That screenshot sets off my fake news alarms

[sullen dove]

even still shouldn’t b that bad ele broken

[spare steppe]

Ele is doing their best

[sullen dove]

but yea idk Warr not pressing cleave I guess

what can you do

[dim spindle]

Oh that's just a random warrior, not you? All the context we need

[compact knot]

This is false but ok

[smoky vale]

is this guy doing a @warm crag cosplay

[compact knot]

Just lie for fun

[smoky vale]

??? fuck you

[compact knot]

Was the warrior also 210 and boosted

[lost saffron]

@warm crag and @compact siren are the only warriors ive had in my keys that did damage

this season

[sullen dove]

[dim spindle]

That warrior did damage, wym

Several of them even

[spare steppe]

Warrior at 210 wont hit 70k in ST

[lost saffron]

Guy had

[sullen dove]

That’s definitely st

[lost saffron]

275

the warrior that is

[smoky vale]

soredish any new gacha games coming out

[dim spindle]

No way did that pally hit 150k ST. Surely?

[sullen dove]

No why do you keep asking that

[dim spindle]

Is that real?

[sullen dove]

nte i guess maybe idk what it is

[compact knot]

Idk any boss that you can do 92m damage to so that I believe is a overall picture lol.

[lost saffron]

Swordish is struggeling a little dont mind him

[sullen dove]

what

[smoky vale]

what is nte

[sullen dove]

[spare steppe]

How much health does the amp boss have in NPX?

[sullen dove]

www.google.com

[coarse nest]

Yellow name

[dim spindle]

I don't know either

Please educate us

[coarse nest]

[smoky vale]

how about you explain

[compact knot]

Less then 92 million

[smoky vale]

so i dont have to

[lost saffron]

Like 70 mil in a +10

I think

[sullen dove]

60ish prolly

[heavy folio]

chim mythic puggable?

[dim spindle]

I'm too old to get all these new fangled acronyms. But I do know what YTMND means 🙂

[lost saffron]

It was a +10 SEAT OF THE TRIUMVIRATE

[lost saffron]

Possible yes, recommended, no

[spare steppe]

What’s that

[compact knot]

Also I do like 200k dps as arms on the npx boss

Lol

[spare steppe]

I need someone to google that for me

[echo rapids]

Probably but sounds awful

[lost saffron]

Spongie and me did it the id before last

[dim spindle]

pre history internet

[lost saffron]

and it was like 8 pulls

[heavy folio]

i was benched this week, tempted to try

[lost saffron]

wasnt too bad

[echo rapids]

Some guildies did it too

[echo rapids]

5 DK raid lol

[smoky vale]

yes @sullen dove and i did it week 1

[dim spindle]

Yeah but you're literally a god amongst men

[smoky vale]

no

[dim spindle]

You're such a warrior that it's your name

[echo rapids]

Ooph

[lost saffron]

Okay I need a warrior for keys

[dim spindle]

"The number 88 most commonly acts as a white supremacist numerical code for "Heil Hitler" (H is the 8th letter, so 88 = HH)."

[lost saffron]

a blaster arms warrior

[dim spindle]

Dogwhistle!

[lost saffron]

for 1 key

[smoky vale]

give me spongus acc

ill crank

[sullen dove]

On eu 😭

[dim spindle]

But 88 is also a lucky number in Chinese culture so that means your next pull should be the one

[sullen dove]

here’s my Mickey Mouse screenshot

uhdk so bad buff them please 😭

[compact knot]

yo guys

[lost saffron]

@warm crag

[compact knot]

if you look at that picure

picture

uhdk needs buffs badly

[undone flower]

i had a dungeon i was second at 132k dps as prot war but didn't screenshot it 🙁

[lost saffron]

INSANE DAMAGE

[coarse nest]

In this one specific pull I did 200k

[sullen dove]

that’s the whole dungeons overall

[dim spindle]

overall? I pugged with a prot war that hit almost 80k overall and I thought that was impressive

[compact knot]

(put a dumbass on the best spec and he will make it look like this)

[sullen dove]

:chatting:

[coarse nest]

🤫

[lost saffron]

Its not the classes being bad

its just that the majority of the people playing the classes sucking ass

thats the issue

[sullen dove]

Cest la vie

[undone flower]

overall yes, it was magister terrace tho

[lost saffron]

for some reason the majority of people cant play arms

[sullen dove]

always a truth on this game on any spec

[lost saffron]

and even less fury

[heavy folio]

prot has only 3 items on chim, sweet

[sullen dove]

eh I mean it requires more than like 2 brain cells to somewhat plan cds in m+

[heavy folio]

boots, gaze and chest

[dim spindle]

wp, almost makes me want to go back to prot after a decade (or maybe more)

[sullen dove]

for arms at least

[lost saffron]

Yeh but tbh

[spare steppe]

Arms feels weird

[mossy pelican]

sheesh they should buff devourer

[lost saffron]

even if you dont do that and you just play your rotation and send on cd unless its 1 mob left of the pack

[sullen dove]

Simple shit like not using cs demo when mobs are at 10%

[lost saffron]

you shouldnt do less than 100k overall

[sullen dove]

prolly not yea idk

[echo rapids]

Honestly prot is pretty nice right now

[spare steppe]

Did you provide that data to blizzard

[undone flower]

it was a 12 or 14, tank dc so i switched prot and finished the dungeon with 2 tanks

[lofty nimbus]

WARRIORS RISE UP

[sullen dove]

guy just wasn’t hitting cleave I would thing

[lost saffron]

He was

hold on

look at the dmg breakdown

[echo rapids]

It’s like 2 buttons with a good assortment of cooldowns and interrupts

[chilly fractal]

Holding

[sullen dove]

Yes this is why they’ve deigned to nerf fury

it’s clearly too powerful

[lost saffron]

How is that breakdown

[sullen dove]

and at risk of being top 30 dps

idk feel like cleave prolly bit higher normally

[lost saffron]

i dont play warrior this tier so i dont know what its supposed to look like

[dim spindle]

Last time I was tanking for real was when they did serious damage... like I was commonly in the top 3 in raid. MoP I think?

With the vanguard (?) mechanic

[lost saffron]

The tank did pull fairly well

[sullen dove]

kroluk also p shit aoe trinket I’m sure not -70k but maybe like -5k

[lost saffron]

I dont think a single pull was less than 4 mobs

[trail bane]

Guys am i hallucinating?

[echo rapids]

Cleave seems really low

[sullen dove]

nope this is warranted

[lilac plinth]

Why we talk about arms on fury channel

[sullen dove]

we are simply too strong

[trail bane]

Yea furys single target has been an issue

[smoky vale]

fury is the general channel

[dim spindle]

Because this is officially # Arms II

[trail bane]

They just didnt realize in what direction

[spare steppe]

I knew it

[dim spindle]

They're bigoted towards fury mains over in the main Arms channel so this is a safe space

[spare steppe]

Time to go to the federal blizzard inspectors

[lost saffron]

there should only be one channel in this discord tbh

[undone flower]

we are the villain

no war in warcraft

[lost saffron]

Ill give another random warrior a try

[trail bane]

Yea it should be called "We are on strike", apparently thats how you get buffs

[lost saffron]

lets see if they do better

[smoky vale]

can you give me spongie acc

[lost saffron]

I tried but spongie doesnt want to

you need to take it with him

[quiet geyser]

Cuz furys a dead spec. Fury channel is now just arm#2

[warm crag]

My character that received 0 mythic loot this tier

[undone flower]

i got 1

[smoky vale]

@frail bloom confirm?

[odd crater]

Stay a Slayer Stan, or do I swap to Arms for this weeks raids

[dry hawk]

better nerf the class that's already cut at the knees

[earnest shuttle]

I have a question... if Fury is supposed to be better overall for M+, why is it that almost the top 20 warrior players are Arms for M+?

[quiet geyser]

Furys not better overall

[lost saffron]

Fury sucks

[warm crag]

Where'd you get the idea that fury is better from

[dry hawk]

Because arms has a better toolkit and is better overall

[dim spindle]

Ouch, right in the feels

[lost saffron]

Im sorry but you chose this life

[dry hawk]

This is fury right now

https://tenor.com/view/superman-ball-ball-kick-gif-15177767

[dim spindle]

Surely we'll get a buff in an emergency hotfix this week

[jagged plover]

Arms suck too

[lost saffron]

No seats with warrior dps in them...

[vale solar]

Logs, but people don’t realize arms is nuts in high keys and dog water in low keys

[frail bloom]

no clue but spongie didnt get to play many bosses

[lost saffron]

I wouldve loved to play more with spongie...

[olive wraith]

10s-11s keys are a great metric

[frail bloom]

i lied, spongie played 6 bosses

[olive wraith]

[quiet geyser]

Arms can be goated in low keys as well. Its just a matter of pulling mobs into every boss for funnel

[lilac osprey]

No one does that in low keys

[warm crag]

I got to play 1 interesting fight

[olive wraith]

Mobs also don’t survive long in lower keys for funnel

[dim spindle]

How do you prefer your puppies prepared? Fried, baked, smoked?

[quiet geyser]

Thats not a matter of the key then, its jsut bad gameplay/people being stupid

[lost saffron]

Yeh and you got kill it twice, since its 3 of them that mkes 6 bosses

[vale solar]

This. Fury is just better overall in keys that most people do. Every minute and 30 you just dumpster on everything

[lost saffron]

he is 100% correct

[warm crag]

Holy

[frail bloom]

sus

[dim spindle]

Grilled, maybe?

[lost saffron]

tbh we are playing triple warrior on lura

warrior is busted there

[warm crag]

Idk Not really true even in 10s i get to double demolish packs and then do execute cleaves

[dry hawk]

Ummm... I tanked multiple 2-8 keys last night dragging mobs into bosses and DPS were confused but happy

[warm crag]

Arms is just kinda good ye

[warm crag]

Warrior apparently does damage there...

[dry hawk]

The amount of funnel is hilarious

[warm crag]

Probs too late to be swapped in tho

[lost saffron]

Not GOOD damage, its like upper middle of the pack

[warm crag]

Ok get me in

[lost saffron]

Who are you kicking out

[frail bloom]

you

[warm crag]

Gigondas2

[lost saffron]

we already have 2 warriors

in on lura

[warm crag]

this is pissing me off

[lost saffron]

skelshril and zurilzinul

Theyre even doing

interrupts

[lost saffron]

Wtf

I mean sure

Poll it to Vireny and see what he thinks about this idea

If he thinks its a good idea im glad to sit

[frail bloom]

rally vs devo, good trade

[lost saffron]

I mean devo is not active most of the time anyways

since im using w aura

[bright dome]

the nerf to mountain thane seems pretty big to me as a new player, does this kill the spec or was that ability way out of line?

[lost saffron]

Warrior is dead now, reroll to ret

[radiant raven]

I was reading about the expected changes for 12.0.5 and noticed that fury slayer got a -2% nerf on its single target while unholy dk got a 3-4% buff. i was a bit confused, but went real quick to check the damage to bosses on WCL and i think its totaly justified

fury was outperforming everyone

[bright dome]

fr its thats bad?

even arms?

[lost saffron]

Actually quality meme

ngl

[warm crag]

to be completely fair this wasnt a balance patch they just threw random reworks at stuff

[bright dome]

why would they do that

[lost saffron]

Arms was never alive

[frail bloom]

you say that but then look at devourer

[stoic loom]

Yeah im sure we'll get some buffs soon, copege

[lost saffron]

Because blizzard is a very fun and cool company

[scarlet swift]

My wallet is in your hands blizzard, make it worth it

[warm crag]

they got reworks and bugfixes no?

[stoic loom]

Just like archi was telling us to just wait for official notes

[frail bloom]

not that i know of

[lost saffron]

Some of the talents got reworked

[warm crag]

idk i was reading fourth hand opinions maybe i got lied to

[lost saffron]

and rework being

"this ability now does 15% increased damage"

instead of some other effect

[warm crag]

goated

[smoky vale]

explain the dh buffs

[quiet geyser]

No spongie is right

[frail bloom]

more damgur

[ripe shore]

LOL

[lost saffron]

Spongie cant be correct

[bright dome]

what about the buffs to improved whirlwind, will they make slayer good somehow?

[warm crag]

never correct

[lost saffron]

Spongie is never right

[quiet geyser]

All thse changes are design changes not tuning lol

[smoky vale]

i hate this spongie guy smh

[radiant raven]

arms is fineISH, its ST is decent, and its AOE its decent (raidwise, in keys its really good)
the problem is that he either plays FULL st ou FULL aoe.
While theres specs +cof cof+ devourer, that can play the both with the same build

[spare steppe]

They should omega buff brewmaster, their damage is a lil low

[smoky vale]

aint that right @gleaming siren

[lost saffron]

Nah arms is dead, jump on the ret train before its too late

[smoky vale]

@frail bloom im gearing my aug 👀

[frail bloom]

please do not talk to me or my duplicates ever again

[smoky vale]

yap yap

[scarlet swift]

someone link the hunter discord, i gotta transition soon

[warm crag]

wouldnt ret also be unplayable garbage if prot/holy were viable

[lost saffron]

im gearing my aug

[rare garnet]

I’m glad devo and uh are getting the attention they need as poor performing specs in both raid and m+

[frail bloom]

the existence of gigondas implies the existence of chudondas

[quiet geyser]

Holy just got a massive buff

[lost saffron]

wouldnt change that its REALLY good on lura

[quiet geyser]

May be the case

[tiny seal]

https://tenor.com/view/claude-aftv-its-time-to-go-mic-interview-gif-15915866

Close the Discord

[lost saffron]

Tophschwanz is what youre looking for

[frail bloom]

monka

[warm crag]

ok but i heard one guy say arms can be really good on lura and hes in and im not so

[lost saffron]

I did say taht

based on

illhitu being 6th in dps on poptart corndogs kill

[frail bloom]

crack and cocaine

oh

[warm crag]

ok but do i purchase this

4 shot double barrel goes pretty hard

[lost saffron]

If you are

wallife or revvez

[scarlet swift]

dont worry, fury is fine, even the giga-heroic parses enjoy it

[lost saffron]

yes you are probably doing damage on lura

pretty good damage even

[warm crag]

good thing i am wallife or revvez

[radiant plank]

Helloe revvezie57

i am walhe from echoes

[lost saffron]

Thats true I've never seen @celest anchor and @warm crag in a room

[undone flower]

Revvez gonna possibly not play war if too bad next season

[bright dome]

damn this is my only character this is depressing

[warm crag]

okay not gonna lie this probably doesnt affect you yeah

unless you're hof raiding you can just click any class and click any buttons and be fine

[scarlet swift]

not really

[bright dome]

im i level 275 doing 16 keys i think i might feel it im not sure

[undone flower]

Yes really

[dense elbow]

You better than two others, dont be such a narrow minded person. You aint last, till you are last. That mage needs a buff, we need a nerf to close that gigantic gap between Arcane Mage and Fury Warrior, stat!