fury

[abstract tulip]

griefed a trinket slot

yeah

[warm crag]

i got zero crest saves the entire season and i will hc cap tmrw

[random shadow]

I greifed 1 upgrade

But other then that I think i went normal upgrading path

[clever stone]

guys do we have any kind of prio dmg in mt?

or funnel

[bitter palm]

i just got mythic shoulders

goated

[warm crag]

ok i am jealous?

[bitter palm]

from first boss pug

thanks

[warm crag]

i should pug it

[bitter palm]

i was one of 3 melee i think

plate i mean

0 guidons

0 hearts

:)))

0 gear from vorasius

[warm crag]

i should go pug that but tuesday pugs might be too demonic

[coarse nest]

Wait because you want to pug with peoples alts that are 5/9 6/9 etc

[olive wraith]

Lightning strikes is the only prio really

So basically no

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/blessed-blessyou-blessyoumychild-blessyouchild-touchtouch-gif-4609295

Your vault has been blessed

[boreal fox]

Is 403 critical strike, 974 haste, and 993 mastery good for Fury Warrior? What should the stats ideally be to be optimal?

[warm crag]

i dunno what i even care about

id like a myth weapon

[olive wraith]

Sim yourself

[sage ridge]

Slayer Fury getting a st nerf has to be a meme right

[slim coral]

You don't really focus on stats now a days you mostly just sim and take what piece sims higher, obviously you care about haste mastery more than the other 2 but sims will always tell you which piece is better

[boreal fox]

ty

[plush maple]

[frozen scarab]

have u guys pugged hero dreamrift

[winter rover]

Hey guys - is there a spreadsheet for M+ Bonus Rolls? Or just "sim yourself"?

[odd crater]

Yeah it’s fine

[random shadow]

I've pugged mythic dreamrift

Do ysll think wee can judt do a t1 bountiful delve for the void forge stuff for tomorrow

[oblique thistle]

Droptimizer single target patchwerk all M+ dungeons

What gear is best for you depends entirely on what you currently have equipped

[winter rover]

Thats what I assumed thx

[bright ledge]

Hey guys do we change any build or anything for tomorrow?

Or slayer is the same but not pressing rend

[oblique thistle]

#updates-midnight

[oblique thistle]

At least we got some aoe right?

[lusty jungle]

strategy for tomorrow is to reroll back to create new character

[oblique thistle]

Or just play what you actually enjoy...

[bright ledge]

If you want to get invite to keys you can’t

[olive wraith]

My class was nerfed 2% better reroll

[oblique thistle]

You're not getting invited because you're playing dps

[lusty jungle]

you don't get invited as a tank either past 16.

[olive wraith]

You’ll get the same amount of inv

[bright ledge]

When I do low keys like 15-16 with my mage I get insta invite so

Not on my experience

[lusty jungle]

and it was a joke :3 i'll never play anything else than warrior, we always meme here

[sage ridge]

It's hilarious because for AoE you will just play Thane so it is effectively just a 2% st nerf

[olive wraith]

If you care that much play arms

[oblique thistle]

I mean i will play slury for fun

No matter what

If i really care that much ill play arms

[sage ridge]

I am already swapped to Arms

lol

[oblique thistle]

Most keys I've done as arms

But I enjoy slayer fury so ill play that too

It really doesn't matter until youre pushing very high keys

[sage ridge]

I just give up on Fury because the tuning it receives is a joke

It's more fun but in a world where dogshit single target gets nerfed 2% I will just swap

[hot shell]

What tuning

[earnest tiger]

I just spam queue until i finally get into a group and stroke my ego every time I finally get invited to a key and wipe the floor with the dog shit fotm rerolling “meta” classes that don’t know how to play

It’s not so bad

[sage ridge]

Yep, the amount of Demo Warlocks and Unholy DKs doing no damage is crazy

I just don't really see how any warrior spec is getting nerfs with how they are performing when a spec as strong as demo is exists right now

[lusty jungle]

because on average the fotm reroller sucks compared to the forged in depression warrior

[oblique thistle]

Because they designed themselves into a hole

You buff fury st you buff their aoe

You give them ruin its terrible and not worth using

[sage ridge]

It's funny because they could just buff both and it'd still not compete with Demo

[worn yoke]

this is why an auto attack damage increase (100%+) is the best fix we could hope for right now. Our spec plays well and has good AOE.

[sage ridge]

But yea Fury is kinda screwed in that way

[olive wraith]

Or slayer strike

[earnest tiger]

We could be like paladins and close the discord and cry because it gets results

But warrior mentality is to be the gigachad and show everyone that player>class while wasting 3x as many hours

(Even though we would be better off crying all day every day on every platform like paladins whenever they are bad)

[olive wraith]

Please stop mentioning discord closure as if that did anything

[sage ridge]

If Warriors closed the discord they would probably compensate us with another 2% nerf to st

[oblique thistle]

Then people will bitch that too much of our damage is coming from slayers strike. Just like they did with reap leading up to these changes

[earnest tiger]

Blizzard 1000% responds to mass crying and if you don’t believe that you’re coping (also the warrior way)

[olive wraith]

It’s the same as buffing AA

[olive wraith]

Nah fam

[sage ridge]

They did with Unholy

Pretty clearly too

[olive wraith]

Warriors cried in forums all s2 tww

[lusty jungle]

lmao they reverted the nerf the same day no?

[olive wraith]

If you think discord has any affect you’re delusional

[sage ridge]

I mean Unholy is a more recent example of Blizzard responding to crying

They got nerfed and insta buffed right back into being meta in a few days

[earnest tiger]

The only thing I’d say though is blizzard is absolutely full of dogshit paladin dad gamers who want to be good so that is an advantage they have

[worn yoke]

y'all trippin if you think blizzard cares about the general playerbase's thoughts and opinions. They base everything off internal design and testing (or lack of)

[olive wraith]

Seriously

[oblique thistle]

Nah they listened to us

People in here were moaning for weeks about bs being low and reap being high and they nearly shot our entire rotation trying to "fix" it and give us what we asked for

Because people cant let go of nerubar still

[earnest tiger]

S1 TWW warrior nerfs were 100% because of WCL results because bosses padded perfectly for us (and didn’t actually matter in terms of progression), don’t kid yourself that was “internal testing”

[boreal pebble]

slayer or thunder for M+ u going guys?

[olive wraith]

Data driven results are massively diff than social forums

[oblique thistle]

#updates-midnight

[olive wraith]

Both are okay. Thane is ahead

[trim moon]

Really enjoying Thane -I absolute doodoo in keys and Doing 89-93k ST - It feels good to me - But should I pop over to slayer for the ST raid fights? Sims with current gear show a 2k diff with Slayer being the victor. But Thane feels better to me

[oblique thistle]

Thane better on most fights

[sage ridge]

For st raid swap to arms

Do anything but play slayer fury for st

[trim moon]

Music to my ears - Dwarven Thunder Lord it is

[boreal pebble]

i played raid as arms and fury both was low donno why (both talents)

[earnest tiger]

Still indicates that they care about general population perception more than their so called “internal testing”

People go sort by overall damage and see warrior on top without diving into any context that it was meaningless pad that would happen 0.5 seconds latter from any other class and they slam the nerf hammer down

[olive wraith]

Wcl isn’t perception

[earnest tiger]

Bruh if you think that the pad we had in tww s1 was meaningful at all and not covered by many other classes regardless - I got a bridge to sell you

[sage ridge]

In all fairness you were agreeing with someone who said it is all internal testing and design when balancing based off wcl is clearing not that

[olive wraith]

Fury was like 30% ahead on rash

[sharp jasper]

Is fury warrior dead? Im experiencing huge problem with dps

[olive wraith]

It deserves nerfs. Blizz over corrected

[earnest tiger]

Because our pad was faster than other classes, not because it impacted whether or not bosses/adds died

[sage ridge]

Best thing is when they shit on Fury we didn't get rebuffed 1 day later

The dps wasn't overpowered just the damage profile and they shit on the damage and gave nothing else to compensate

[tardy lark]

it kinda did on progress. Theres a reason you played 2 warriors on ansurek for the top 20 for example. The lower you went, the more nerfed the boss became and you could drop them, but the damage was never meaningless

The issues was it being 3 button presses and 90% of your damage was done

[worn yoke]

demo and unholy meta again? another caster meta in raid and M? community generally unhappy with state of spec balance?

Better nerf fury

[sage ridge]

Wait

So it was fine to nerf Fury because they took two

But 5 MM on vanguard is fine

[olive wraith]

They should nerf mm

[heady pagoda]

lmfao. what in the cringe argument is that

[oblique thistle]

Its fine to nerf fury because it was super far ahead on almost every fight in tww s1

[tardy lark]

nah, im sayin they didnt nerf the correct thing. They randomly started nerfing roar across the entire class instead nerfing the burst

[olive wraith]

Don’t think anyone is saying there are zero overtuned specs

[vestal root]

playing arms for weeks now but i lowkey miss fury already

yahoo

[tardy lark]

they nerfed the actual dot damage we had

[worn yoke]

this is actually a huge class design issue. it kills our damage in keys if the tanks do staggered pulls and its less of a problem now but was very bad early TWW

[tardy lark]

yea fury went from decent in keys early to taking 3 weeks of nerfs for the sins of Rashanan and worm guy

into complete uselessness

[earnest tiger]

Nope, but yes this is how blizzard thinks

Those webs break 0.5s slower without warriors insta pad and the boss still dies 1000%

Remove that single point of pad and warrior becomes mid tier immediately with no impact on the actual meat of the fight

[warm crag]

allo

[tardy lark]

the point isnt whether they would die fast with other classes here my man. The point is that other player dont have to commit any damage

[olive wraith]

Blizz being bad is known

[tardy lark]

warrior did that the best on specifically ansurek

[tardy lark]

allo fren

[heady pagoda]

It was not pad when they nerfed it though. That's the point. They wouldnt have brought 2 to the early kills. They would have brought none.

[vestal root]

deva evokers delete adds on dragons now

[olive wraith]

Main argument being community forums have no weight

[worn yoke]

dragons roar / thunderous roar is a shame that it got just deleted. IMO it should have been a cooldown that made it so each rampage cast it caused you to do a yell that applied and spread the DoT, stacking for its duration. Aside from all the damage in 1 global and if you pull 10 mobs on the GCD after you press it, gg damage

[olive wraith]

Wasn’t outlaw bugged an entire tier in tww

[vestal root]

i thought outlaw was and is bugged for years now

[earnest tiger]

The point is we get nerfed across the board for pad that is irrelevant literally 1 reset later and that is cringe, and which anyway was 100% not necessary for even the world first kill that tier regardless of how nice it looked in logs

[vestal root]

if you pad on warrior and are high on meters you get nerfed

because what if paladin or dk are not ahead we cant have that

[earnest tiger]

The worst is just ST anyways. every time recently warrior has been “OP” it’s irrelevant MT pad

But they hit us on ST anyway

[heady pagoda]

I don't think any one here will disagree that it was overdone. but calling ansurek add damage pad for the top 25 guilds is genuinely nuts. Thinking you know better than those guilds is wild brother

[tardy lark]

nah 2 warriors were brought to world first ansurek for the banger single target

[heady pagoda]

They brought double warrior because they needed the add damage. not because they got baited by details on the early pulls lol

[vestal root]

ill bring revvez warrior regardless

because goat status

[tardy lark]

man didnt see a boss after paladins

him and me are the same fr fr

[vestal root]

benched?

[tardy lark]

yea

[vestal root]

based

[floral belfry]

Slayer M+, what are we taking off to get Rampaging Ruin?

[tardy lark]

i rerolled

[vestal root]

aintnoway im using that shitass talent

[vestal root]

nooooooo

come back sir.....

[tardy lark]

i despise 95% of what warrior is rn

only saving grace is the performance in keys

[warm crag]

col is fun

[tardy lark]

so im playing it to 3.4k and then im hunter man rest of tier

[vestal root]

i like warrior atm its just that i feel like i gotta put in so much more effort compared to a fuckass paladin or dk or whatever other class

[vestal root]

im really trying but i just simply cannot grasp it

slayer arms 0 issues, colo its just giga jank

[tardy lark]

slam cds as they get ready

0 thoughts

[warm crag]

ok here you go you press cleave

[tardy lark]

head empty

[warm crag]

and then you press ms

[olive wraith]

Probably massacre

If you decide to take that talent

[vestal root]

i assume hack n slash still wack?

[olive wraith]

Don’t forget to make a cancel aura macro if it can still be canceled

[floral belfry]

im an idiot I thought the aoe was in addition

[warm crag]

yeah please dont play rampaging ruin

[vestal root]

i got my war to 3k but at this point it feels lowkey exhausting to play it and i feel trying to reroll now would be too late so i can maybe wait next season or smtn

[worn yoke]

why didnt they just simply make RR be:
If IWW casues rampage to hit more than 3 targets it instead deals 65% damage to all targets within X yards, damage reduced beyond 8 targets

[vestal root]

rampaging ruin is wack

[tardy lark]

just embrace the cleave

[warm crag]

isnt warr one of the better m+ specs rn other than casters

[tardy lark]

yuh

[vestal root]

i mean i dont have issues per say

[warm crag]

what do you want though if arms is insufficient

go play a meta caster arms is the best you're gonna get

[vestal root]

casters are skimmed milk drinkers

[plush maple]

Don’t insult milk like that

[vestal root]

skimmed milk is an insult

[sage ridge]

It's funny cause in pugs people don't really take arm warriors that often but I guarantee most players playing Arms in high keys will do much better than fotm dks and warlocks

[vestal root]

i agree

[olive wraith]

Dunno. I think Rr is whack. I would have preferred hard cap+funnel instead

[vestal root]

like if i see a random WW monk or something im taking them i know that person probably banging

trying to ignore all devo dhs

[plush maple]

Wait actually I like low fat milk so I might be skimmed milk enjoyer

There is only one type (brand) of whole milk I like

[vestal root]

low can bt like 1,5%

skimmed is like 0,1%

[sage ridge]

I honestly cringe at how many people only play the meta comp when you look at 16-17 range in group finder

[vestal root]

aug evoker waiting room

[tardy lark]

skim milk bis

[worn yoke]

the amount of ATROCIOUS dev DH is too damn high

[sage ridge]

Aug players are boosted as hell

[vestal root]

its all bad DH players who cant play havoc on devo

[plush maple]

Aug should get removed

[vestal root]

aug players dont need to be good

[sage ridge]

They just lowkey don't do anything and you can't tell unless you check logs

[vestal root]

its a busted spec made for handless ppl

[sage ridge]

Half the time I play with an aug I feel almost no difference

[warm crag]

aug is probably outdamaging you unless theyre full afk

[vestal root]

real

also it makes everyone survive more

i think thats its biggest strength

[sage ridge]

Honestly tho I would never play aug in my life

[warm crag]

is that even true anymore

[vestal root]

i just find casters boring

[plush maple]

I’ve never played with an aug, how rare are they

[vestal root]

do they still not have attunement for hp, tank defensive, and some other bull

[warm crag]

@gleaming siren

[plush maple]

?

[vestal root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1358901241375359179/Battle.net_J86KgwOoYA.gif

[warm crag]

need to ping myself to conjure up aug knowledge

[plush maple]

Nooo don’t decline

[sage ridge]

I feel like most aug players are either forced to play it or reroll from dev

[vestal root]

oh and groupwide avoidance defensive

[vestal root]

factual

most tell me they rerolled because aug is stronger

or that they are in a group that requires it

[olive wraith]

Was dev ever meta?

For keys

[vestal root]

i think another thing i wanna ask is

[olive wraith]

Aug came mid season 2 and have been meta like 4 times

[vestal root]

do they balance around aug evokers at this point

which is why they feel so "required" on higher keys

[sage ridge]

It seems like Aug is either useless or meta

[vestal root]

obv you can time shit without them but

[sage ridge]

Kinda hard to balance around them

[vestal root]

bcus its a new concept

on a new class

they dont know themselves how to make it work

[olive wraith]

And the only support class

If there were more it would be easier to balance I’m sure

[vestal root]

maybe we will see it soon

[fickle vector]

if I'm crafting spellbreakers bracers whats the best embellishment and stats to use?

[vestal root]

wowhead has guide for it but mastery haste arcanoweave

[fickle stirrup]

This is Spirit Bomb to the face levels of cope
holy

[sterile hearth]

I hate that for our numbers to look good other people have to play bad.

[sage ridge]

What is the cope?

I am just talking in pugs in the higher range a lot of DKs and Warlocks play their classes pretty poorly when someone playing a class like Arms typically has a better understanding of their spec

Not saying Arms is stronger

[fierce falcon]

After the patch changes, which will be better: Colossus or Slayer?

[sage ridge]

Colossus

imo

[worn yoke]

yeah parsing on a warrior requires extremely ethical remainder of raid efforts... Which are non existent outside of the top guilds

[thorny cove]

is fury complete poo poo in high keys tomorrow?

[olive wraith]

What are high Keys

[wispy thistle]

something something read the pins

[thorny cove]

ok better question: will arms be better in keys than fury?

[sage ridge]

Yes, it already is

[thorny cove]

[keen kindle]

Dunno about keys

But its been meta for raid like half the tiers its existed irrc

[gleaming siren]

Attunement is 2%, not great not bad probably the pick but if you take Attunement you don't take Blistering Scales (that button only does anything for Monk anyway)

Honestly it's just a DPS spec at this point mostly that just does a bit of its damage by buffing the group

not too much even

[rotund ginkgo]

R we able to send 298 on Wednesday?

[gleaming siren]

Aug is just tuned aggressively well, does good AoE does good single

[tardy lark]

nobody knows

[rotund ginkgo]

Aagaard how about next time I stream u send me money

How about that

[tardy lark]

send stream

you owe me a tattoo

then

[olive wraith]

Sounds nsfw

[tardy lark]

can you actually do a warrior t3 shoulder thing on my shoulder

[echo rapids]

It sounds like you’ll be able to get the 3 mcguffns fast and do it

But hard to say

[dim spindle]

The blizz article about it mentions helping the dude build another void thingie so that tells me it'll take another couple/few weeks

But I'm a warrior with 0 int so I could definitely be wrong

[uneven path]

Isn't it the thing we are already building?

[dim spindle]

"After unlocking the Voidforge, Decimus will require additional assistance to craft the Ascendant Nilhammer"

So whatever that means. idk

It's a bit vague

[uneven path]

Yeh could go either way

[woven valley]

The hammer is for upgrading trinkets and weapons further than we can now

The forge is for gear rolls

[dim spindle]

Yes, but how long will it take to craft this Nilhammer

[woven valley]

Probably 3 to 6 weeks

[dim spindle]

That's my assumption

But you know what they say about assuming etc etc

[uneven path]

Sounds kinda weird using "forge" to roll for items

[coarse nest]

You forge the item that you use to roll for gear

[woven valley]

well you forge the null pieces to make the items

[dim spindle]

Maybe it's Decimus playing 4D chess and once we make that hammer for him he laughs, stuns us, and ports away with it to craft his own ilvl 299 weapons

And fight us in the next patch

Blizzard hire me

Or, or... hear me out. Decimus is a freakin' DREADLORD

Or Xal's ex bf from way back in the day. So many options

Clipping this for my resume

[uneven path]

Well you just buy it for Decimus

[drowsy heron]

WHERE ARE MY RB BUFFS BLIZZARD?!?!?!?!

[dim spindle]

One thing at a time

They'll buff RB by 20% and nerf BT/BB by 40%

Please be careful

[drowsy heron]

fine by me, i like pressing RB

[uneven path]

Maybe next week once blizzard relies nerfing slayers single target be it by 2% wasn't brightest idea

[dim spindle]

Results in a net -20% overall, btw. But at least RB will be closer I guess

[dry hawk]

is Thane just really clap->ramp 😢 gameplay upsetting lol

[dim spindle]

Unironically a stout buff to autoattack just might do the trick. They clearly don't want our mass aoe burst to compare to some other classes/specs, though the overall does even out

[dim spindle]

Where's your character

[dry hawk]

the brown cross in the center

[dim spindle]

Can you see their feet? Is it just the camera angle messing with me

I feel like it would be a bitch seeing swirlies of death

[dry hawk]

I have a circle enabled normally

[dim spindle]

Ok that's not so bad

Not that my UI is a shining gold standard or anything

And yes there's lots of clappa clappa ramp

Not as much in ST

[sage ridge]

Basically none in st

Outside of thunderblast

[dim spindle]

I don't mind aoe being semi brainless, too much other shit to pay attention to

Like those 6 caster bars buried under all the others

[sage ridge]

I mean it's only during CDs and 7+ that you are spaming tc

[uneven path]

Wasn't it 6+ ?

[red berry]

an autoattack buff is the most boring thing they could do

[sage ridge]

Last time I checked it's 7 or more

[dim spindle]

6 would be a little more clear imo

or simply "7 and above"

I thought 6+ meant "6 or above" too until I saw someone say otherwise

[uneven path]

Oh ok

[uneven path]

Yeh same for me till now

[sage ridge]

Pretty sure 6+ would mean 6 or above

But that's not what it says

I think it says more than 6 targets

[dim spindle]

It's also a pain trying to count those 7 with the wonderful "stacking" bars we have these days

[sage ridge]

Yea blizzard fucked up nameplates for nothing

They're so bad

[dim spindle]

It used to say 6+ or whatever, unless I'm thinking of warlock priority lists I saw

[sage ridge]

I think Fury used to say 7+

Now it says more than 6

[modest condor]

i dont think it ever said 6+, just more than 6

maybe you just remember the 6 and filled in the + yourself

[dim spindle]

Ok I'm probably thinking of a lock guide, definitely had this realization with something or other

Or that

I dont think so good ok

It's hard. Zug.

Ah hah, it is warlock

Destro RoF targets

[charred echo]

Hey guys !! So its real, the MT nerf was not cancelled 🙁 ?

[dim spindle]

1 less thing to keep me awake tonight

[uneven path]

Yep this is probably it

[uneven path]

Really?

[dim spindle]

What's up with the question mark

Was that a statement or a question

[charred echo]

I dont know I am asking, i see so many infos saying once its not cancelled, than i see it is

[dim spindle]

Don't tell me I'm staying awake anyway

It's cancelled. According to those in the know

[charred echo]

Ok thank god

[uneven path]

Oh I thought it was a statement

[charred echo]

Thanks guys sorry i guess the question is asked everyday, i just found this discord

[dim spindle]

Accuracy or even updating patch notes for accuracy is very hard, it seems

[uneven path]

Then patch comes and it will actually be nerfed

[dim spindle]

Hey now

Don't be like that

This is a positive thinking channel ONLY

[uneven path]

True

[dim spindle]

We're Fury, not... Sadly, or something

Though it's getting close

[uneven path]

Just wait for another warcraft log report

On stuff like boss DMG

[dim spindle]

Fury Worrier

[uneven path]

Doomry

[dim spindle]

Surly Warrior? I don't know, I give up. I think it's past my bed time

[uneven path]

Yeh same, I will be dead in work

Welp let's have some positive sleep

[dim spindle]

Positive vibrations, we be jammin

Watcheewah

[dry hawk]

anyone play with the addon EnhanceQOL?

[drowsy heron]

no it was still reverted, check https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[charred echo]

Thanks, sry im new here need to learn using the discords, answer was already given.

[dapper goblet]

@sullen dove https://www.twitch.tv/bazefacee/clip/LachrymoseSolidGoatWow-T9QcLTCietPNuxYQ

[compact knot]

LMAO

thats a good clip

[dapper goblet]

"bazeface strikes again"

[dry hawk]

nothing like doing LFR to try and freshen up a couple of... TANK abilities and lmao

[bitter palm]

[dapper goblet]

[sullen dove]

"yes its not working"

visibly swaps macro during

[dapper goblet]

LMAO

[sullen dove]

getting bitched was kind of funny but also yea his rl is braindead lmao

"play fury"

play the worse spec

w

[dapper goblet]

7th iteration of Fierce for a reason

[sullen dove]

gallywix discord crashout

[dapper goblet]

miss that discord

[sullen dove]

can prolly find that ss somewhere

[scarlet swift]

8 hour maintenance tomorrow? guess i wont even bother logging in as NA since it'll be extended til 6 most likely

[chilly fractal]

17 Seat FeelsBadMan

we had a lot of deaths so it's whatever but man...

[fleet garden]

1 crit

[chilly fractal]

My score is quite comical… 3420 with a 12 Magisters

[woven valley]

king finally down. 4 bosses on myth down feels good

[chilly fractal]

Gratz

[smoky wraith]

guys quick question is there like a spell reflect addon or somthn like that ? or do we just spell reflect everything with * Bolt * in its name 😄 ty

[woven valley]

it was hectic but i like the fight cause add pad

cause its not pad if you HAVE to kill adds to win

[chilly fractal]

Spell reflect anytime you are gonna take spell damage pretty much

If you don’t deflect or reflect complete you’ll still take 20% less damage from spells

Some things are more dangerous than others in the same pack for example those big dudes before 2nd Skyreach boss that channel

Pop a spell reflect before the cast goes on you and mitigate 100%

[slim coral]

I was more so double checking

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

Cause for some reason elvui doesn’t show the name of the macro

[sullen dove]

yea looks like either whatever kick u pressed wasnt a macro cuz u were targetting the boss and seemingly kicked the boss or it a bossframe targetting kick and it like perfect overlapped with someone else's kick on an add

either way chudvolt saying go wrong spec

w shit

[drowsy heron]

holy shit this is funny, is it AI?

[dapper goblet]

xan would poop and shit and fart and piss his pants if ai got posted

(yes its ai)

[slim coral]

yeah not sure it bound

[sullen dove]

lies

[dapper goblet]

feel like it is

[slim coral]

this fight is so bad for frames tho

7800x3d 15 frames on pull

[slim coral]

O

I'm not sure

woudl be insane if it was real

[edgy widget]

yeah that's very clearly fake

[desert field]

any estimate on heart of ancient hunger uptime?

[sullen dove]

pop a quick sim and itll tell ya

assuming you have it

or any log with it

but probably around 30-40%

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral why did we end

[static rock]

quick question, could you have 2 crafted weapons with hunt embellishments?

[modest condor]

you could

[static rock]

for some reason raidbots doesn't let me

[slim coral]

Router need my stream

Waiting for it to come back online

[sullen dove]

youd need to tell it you have 4 available sparks which you probably shouldnt at this point

have to manually add extra assuming you dont

[static rock]

Nevermind i got it, forgot to add non-embellished piece for my wrist

[random shadow]

killed 3 mythic bosses this week, do i loot spec prot or fury 🤔

[rare garnet]

Is that a real question.

[random shadow]

partially

[sullen dove]

i mean... do you not care about 2hand weapons and most dps trinks

[random shadow]

if i see that shit second dps trinket in that slot ima be depressed

from chim loot table lol

[sullen dove]

yea i mean that'd prolly be the single only thing to change it for

but giving that up when you could fill that same slot

well assuming youve killed 3 bosses being chim/vora/imperator right

[random shadow]

ye

[sullen dove]

if thats the case youd just be losing that trink as a roll and gaining a shield so likelihood to get good trinket should remain unchanged

and you just brick your entire M+ vault probably with terrible trinkets

then again not that many m+ trinkets are good to begin with

just prolly not really good mostly if you need a 2hand weapon still

[random shadow]

what id ideally like is heart this vault then bonus roll gaze but rng is rng

[sullen dove]

yea heart's rolled as both prot and dps

[random shadow]

i have a myth 2 hander plus crafted

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral so you've been benched

[sullen dove]

not possible who would bench their best player

although if they A) havent gotten to p3 yet warr gonna look complete ass and B) dumbass rl telling him to go fury that is strictly worse for last 2 phases of the fight lol

cluegi

[random shadow]

hm ill probably just fury loot spec anyways, just hope dont get the oozing

[sullen dove]

yea i mean if ur not targetting any extra weapon then and no dps only trink from m+ (which isnt alot) its currently not awful if you want to do prot lootspec

atm your raid vault odds of getting gaze/heart are not affected but maybe youd rather get a shield as a potential item instead of the trink unless you know youll never tank probably

[random shadow]

id just like the myth raid slot to be good is really it, m+ loot isnt much different besides trinks but bonus rolls are coming so its not as important from vault unless gaze or heart or the light from first boss imo

[compact knot]

i would have like to have killed myth bird for plume in vault

[sullen dove]

yea i mean talking only about raid ur just trading the shit trinket for a shield to swap lootspec

so up to you how much that matters

[compact knot]

but we skipped myth bird

[sullen dove]

by we do you mean you

bird killers can reclear voidspire for plumes in vaults no

or is something about how this specifically segments raids prevents that

i wouldnt think so though

[edgy widget]

that's just telling you which boss you've killed, it doesn't affect what loot you'll get

[drowsy citrus]

Does anyone know how much dps I should be aiming for in a mythic+ overall? is there a way to see rankings for it somewhere?

(I know there are a lot of variables to that, but I need some ballparks to guide me - I'm totally lost on it)

[random shadow]

higher then the other 2 dps

[edgy widget]

the vault loot pool is cumulative, not dynamic too; so if you've killed Belo'ren once, you can get Belo'ren loot from the vault, even if you didn't specifically kill em that week

[random shadow]

other hten that no matter

[sullen dove]

yea like u said theres like 100 different variables in determining that but with at least somewhat of a decent tank think fury should easily hit like 130-140k+ in a normal ish key level

[drowsy citrus]

I have never hit 140k

T_T

[sullen dove]

some like top end arms can maybe crank almost 200k or something in high aoe dungeons

[slim coral]

Internet out

[sullen dove]

it'd be a lot harder to do in like a 10 or something for example if comparing to that

than like 15s or higher

[drowsy citrus]

i just did 135k overall in a 10 xenas, but I had skyfury

[sullen dove]

yea i mean is that higher than the other 2 dps

doesnt seem awful at least

[drowsy citrus]

idk barely, the warlock did 134.6k

[random shadow]

only thing matters is higher then the other 2

anything else is irrelevant

[drowsy citrus]

well

[sullen dove]

ya dont think should be too unhappy with that locks are like really op in keys i think

[drowsy citrus]

my frost mage friends always beat me

[sullen dove]

unless hes like 20 ilvl lower than you

[random shadow]

well theyre mages

mages strong

[sullen dove]

that might also happen often idk havent played with too many mages

[drowsy citrus]

could I beat them if I go arms?

[dapper goblet]

why is our home phone on the ground

[random shadow]

maybe

[sullen dove]

why do we have 3+ recipe books next to our router

[drowsy citrus]

I've spent like 15 hours just practicing fury rotation and i still have no idea what im doing wrong - when I look at the top parses in WCL for m+ I see guys doing thunderclap as their #2 dmg

[dapper goblet]

also whats in that candy jar

[sullen dove]

yea if ur in aoe with more than 7-8 mobs should be hitting tclap basically on cooldown during avatar

ramp > tb > ramp > tb > ramp > tc is like highest aoe thing you can do

[drowsy citrus]

isnt that only during avatar?

[sullen dove]

thats what i meant yea

[drowsy citrus]

ok

I was just watching a VOD of a warrior in a 20 key doing over 500k aoe

with lust, but evne with llust I don't think I've gotten that high

on the first pull in MC

[sullen dove]

yea i mean i assume in +10 those mobs die extremely fast

barely get to use all your cooldowns

much higher key tho they either pull more mobs or the comp is slightly better and they last way longer so get to like "finalize" your dmg a lot more

[drowsy citrus]

IDK, I've had some pulls that last a long time and I'm only seeing like 300-350k

[sullen dove]

plus ofc any better play or gear they may have which is likely too

[random shadow]

man imagine whats its like to play with a cracked MM player

my guildie just nukes that shit even as arms its rahter annoying

even in 15s

[smoky vale]

it feels like a normal spec

eveyrthing lives in 19s and 20s

[edgy widget]

outside of Avatar you're also pressing TC basically on cooldown in multitarget - it's a longer cooldown, so you're just using Ramp/BT/whatever in between

[slim coral]

Don’t use home phone anymore

[slim coral]

Skittles

[static rock]

@edgy widget Just to confirm, cause the last patch notes from blizzard still say that storm surge is getting reduced to 10%, those changes will be getting reverted, right?

[slim coral]

Yes

[woven valley]

even with the reversions we need buffffffs

honestly have no clue why they were gonna nerf us in the first place lol

[static rock]

just trying to find where he found that out, cause even the official patch notes still have the fury nerf, but not the prot nerf anymore

[wary falcon]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/1205-ptr-development-notes/2270121/7

[static rock]

Yeah, that still only has the nerf for prot reverted

[edgy widget]

read the linked update in the updates channel

[slim coral]

It’s on ptr

[static rock]

Yes, but how did you find that out if the ptr notes don't say anything about it?

[wind token]

cause he played on the ptr

[random shadow]

you can easily test this rn if you go onto ptr

right this instance

[edgy widget]

if you listen to what I'm saying, you'll see

in the most recent update, there's a link - clicking that link will take you to the previous update, which shows the actual spell data for the change

[edgy widget]

actually it's because I know how to read spell data, but yeah you can easily verify it on the PTR

[wind token]

but muh patch note

[sullen dove]

blizzard and staying true to the words they give out

more iconic duo

[edgy widget]

it's not really about staying true, it's more the CMs that put these notes together aren't always personally familiar with the changes, so stuff gets conflated

in this case, there is only one version of Storm Surge, with no mechanism to split it up between Protection and Fury - any change is a change for both

[tawdry cliff]

Hello fellow furies.
Seems like tomorrow we'll finally get our roll tokens. What is your choice of dungeon/raid boss to gamble on?

[random shadow]

dreamrift and second boss in void

[drowsy citrus]

THE ALNSEER OR WHATEVER TRINKET

[random shadow]

then i will full send rolls onto keys

will probably full send arms gear tho espically since pit has everything

[candid falcon]

probably going to try to get a weapon. Not sure tho, I already have my myth puzzy b

[drowsy citrus]

yeah im about to switch to arms too, i feel like its just better than fury

[edgy widget]

really depends on what you need, I'll make an #updates-midnight post about it tomorrow

[tawdry cliff]

Great, thank you

[tawdry cliff]

The only thing that stops me from trying arms is my gear being heavily mastery oriented. Guess a bunch of random m track items is gonna change it

[candid falcon]

that post will definitely help LOL I've hit the point where i'm just waiting for the chance for gear (my raid group is too bad for mythic)

[drowsy citrus]

yea i regret giving away so much gear

now

[odd vapor]

random question, is pandaren any good as warrior?

[thorny basin]

do you eat food

[odd vapor]

ye

[thorny basin]

then yeah its good

[compact knot]

pandaren very good if u prog raid

imo

gives you a lot of +50 str and +100 stam

food buff strong right now

will fall off later in the expansion though

[pearl sequoia]

then we can all return to the race we want to play, mechagnome

[olive mica]

hey all. is it ok to post my logs here to get some tips and pointers? or do you have a special channel for that

[pearl sequoia]

#1347646810457636974

[olive mica]

Aah that was hidden for some reason. Thanks a bunch

[floral bay]

So the TC spam nerfs are coming tomorrow or nah?

[sullen dove]

no

[random shadow]

Tc nerfs coming just for YOU and no one else :D

[sterile hearth]

#updates-midnight

[olive wraith]

Fwiw character race is pretty negligible. Play whatever you want

[random shadow]

Panda had sick animations

Edpically arms

[dapper goblet]

[keen talon]

If you are a serious key pusher, there's a reason a lot of them play dwarf.

[olive wraith]

If he’s asking about race he’s not title pushing. I’d bet money on it

[odd vapor]

just raid

[keen talon]

Firedup plays Panda. Double food buff is sick

[floral bay]

Respectable decision i am THAT guy after all 😎

[solid bay]

nothing scarier than a panda smashing a giant sword at your head

[sullen dove]

panda lore

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[sullen dove]

legion xeos presumably

legion helm

[dapper goblet]

this was bfa

[sullen dove]

or that

[dapper goblet]

that is a legion helm though

[sullen dove]

yea ik

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/whoa-gif-20492375

[sullen dove]

not sure where red comes from tho

ik yellow one is xorothian from assaults or something

[dapper goblet]

just being a beast i think

[sullen dove]

real

prolly just pvp baby set or whatever

[subtle lynx]

Tried Arms. Hated it. Thought I hated Fury... Lol. Please tell me I'm not the only one.

Maybe I'm not giving it enough time

[undone flower]

You hate both arms and fury ?

[lost thorn]

I pray every Day to Baby Jesus for single target buffs and better class balance devs

[worn rain]

[slim coral]

alright internet ie back

is

lock in

[subtle lynx]

I hate Fury less, now lol. I haven't really played since Legion, so everything feels kinda bizarre.

[mighty wharf]

Arms will be better in m+?

In 12.0.5

[jolly flower]

Hey folks, fairly new to Fury Warrior, ran an 11 MT and had a crazy spike of leech healing while fighting the first boss. Like I was just chilling in his puddle no problem. Any idea what is causing that? Google was not helpful.

If possible I want to be able to do it again.

[olive wraith]

It’s better before 12.0.5

(And after)

[olive wraith]

Did you pop defensive of any kind

[jolly flower]

Yeah, Enraged Regeneration, but I'm looking at my self healing and the Leech was way more healing was like 500k, about three times as much as on other bosses.

[tiny seal]

good morning fellow bossdmg lords

[worn rain]

no cd BT + ER gives over 100% your total

no big deal

[jolly flower]

And that gets sorted under leech in the logs? Because the logs specify leech.

Like I intended to be able to stand in the dot. That's why I used the CD, but I was surprised to see the Leech spike.

Sorry if these are dumb question, like I said, relative newbie.

[sullen dove]

yea we'll take a 2% st nerf

[random shadow]

Arms doing better in raid?

I can justified wanting to gear as arms during turbo now

[sullen dove]

yes

[hushed ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/emmanuel-macron-emmanuel-macron-for-sure-sure-gif-17254882495449958927

[random shadow]

I need a better weapon tho

My myth mastery verse weapon isn't it chief

[sullen dove]

sure isnt

[hushed ocean]

sorry, actually my whole raid horizon is pals

[random shadow]

Its ok. Bonus rolls on pit soon or later whenever I can get gaze and heart

[worn rain]

ER is not marked as distinct source of healing afaik

so it is either you popped ER and healed yourself or pulled wyrms into boss and leeched through gushed wounds

[worn rain]

looks good to be top of the chart

[tiny seal]

must have got it wrong thats why we got nerfed i get it

[hushed ocean]

blizzard know smth that we don't

something that all the sims didn't notice

that's why we get nerf nerfed. fury secret OP

[olive mica]

actually makes me feel kinda better about my poor performance lol

[smoky vale]

@radiant plank

do you want sstrean

stream

[radiant plank]

Sure bro

[smoky vale]

sec in boss

up

did that in between globals

[radiant plank]

watching

[pallid brook]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[radiant plank]

solid spell reflect

[smoky vale]

man

i did it .1s early

[radiant plank]

gg

[smoky vale]

that was a crnak

no?

besides tghe rabnom death

[valid pulsar]

"Storm Surge causes Avatar to increase the damage of Thunder Clap by 10% (was 50%) and reduce its cooldown by 25% (was 50%)."
Does this automatically affect TB as well during CDs and isnt that a massive nerf? Are we still using TC (not TB) during CDs on >6 targets ?

[lusty jungle]

It's to be ignored as the change was reverted

[valid pulsar]

Oh

[radiant plank]

yeah only 40k overall behind the rest

[smoky vale]

holy moly

[charred drum]

Which key ?

[analog matrix]

Big boy

[smoky vale]

pit

[radiant plank]

show boss dam

from forgemaster

[smoky vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LFbcxAXGq7tyr2ad?fight=13&type=damage-done&pull=7&target=421

equal with the ret

W

[sly merlin]

fml

[tired bane]

Rip brother

[smoky vale]

i lost 19 aa by 6s

i feel you

[sly merlin]

the pally died in lust like 1 second into last boss bc we pulled one echo night onto it and the feral took like 20s to brez him 😿

i should’ve rallied maybe he lives but idr his hp so maybe not but i will call it my bad and learn from mistakes

[thorny verge]

Nothing changes for fury in 12.0.5 right? Still behind on arms?

[sly merlin]

yeh

[tiny seal]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[lost saffron]

@smoky vale when next stream

[smoky vale]

rn

[fiery edge]

Holy fury’s cooked

[pallid brook]

What happened

Everyday i wake up warri gets cooked somewhere

At this point well have to pleasure people to get somewhere

[hardy quiver]

At this point we are hated for some reason

[thorny verge]

Big swords

Two of them

[subtle lagoon]

That's it, shut down the discord

[vague stump]

we need to do the paladin thing

[south lintel]

Shut it down

Demand some real changes not this bs

[dire oyster]

What did I miss?

[hushed ocean]

Even if we're closing, they’ll not give a fuck. We're not lousy enough

Paladins made big tantrum on forums. We are not. Not enough

It’s doomed guys. Wait 12.1

[native island]

what is going on?

something "major" happened? or ppl just dooming

[hushed ocean]

We're dooming cuz it’s doomed

[hybrid wharf]

Did we have funnel with mountain warrior fury ?

[hushed ocean]

Not really

[hybrid wharf]

[royal copper]

Simple question so i havent misunderstood something:

If 95 Rage or more = Rampage
If not Enraged = Rampage

Correct?

[native island]

think it's fine

[hybrid wharf]

Depends if you want to AoE or not, you talk about Single target ?

[cosmic flame]

Yo guys question, i assume u answered it already but is fury available after tomorrow?

[royal copper]

Single target, correct.

[hybrid wharf]

So yes you are right

[royal copper]

Perfect - thank you.

[royal copper]

The closer i can hit to 100 rage without going over, is better . right?

[brittle folio]

I think thatd be true for every case except when padding on lots of adds on MT (in which case thunder clap/blast and odyns fury spamming is much more important than using rage)

[hybrid wharf]

In fact you just don’t want to overrage, if you could use rampage at 129 rage every Time it’s the better, 100 is to be sure to not overcap because this is really bad to do it

[rotund ginkgo]

How about I forge ur ass to reroll more warrior buffs

How about that

RAAAAA

[proven hornet]

will thane take over slayer on single target after patch?

[hybrid wharf]

Thane was like 2/3% behind in ST and slayer take -2% so i guess they are equal now, just thane is better in AoE so no real reason to take slayer anymore for what I know

(I really don’t understand this nerf on ST of slayer)

[hushed ocean]

no one is

[copper parcel]

Oh some {insert broken class} is doing broken dmg

Nerf warrior

[radiant plank]

real

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[digital mauve]

Do you find ret to be broken ? Or at least better than fury in every aspects ?

[tiny seal]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-nice-grafic-gif-13206845596055018221

pov blizz devs fury balancing

nerf worst st spec in the game before its too late

[lost saffron]

Should I tell him?

Yes or no?

[tiny seal]

[radiant plank]

he is worgen so no

[lost saffron]

What are these demons running +10s

nowadays

its so insane

[bitter palm]

he is kinda juiced icl

[torn oriole]

Guys, why is everyone turning in Arms ? 😢

[radiant plank]

10's are the new 7's

[lost saffron]

Every single key there is someone

with 0 enchants

[radiant plank]

yerp

[lost saffron]

the damage is absolutely abyssmal

[edgy oasis]

Probably trying to ilvl parse.

[compact siren]

This is your character

Stop lying

[lusty jungle]

ret has a very low skill ceiling, anyone can do great on it

[lost saffron]

So does fury tbh

[lusty jungle]

ye but our output is low, compared to ret

[lost saffron]

Same with arms

and arms output great

[stoic loom]

If you think arms is one of the easier specs idk what to tell u bud

[lusty jungle]

i omegasuck at arms

[lost saffron]

I did not say it was easy

[undone flower]

Arms output is low compared to ret no ?

[lost saffron]

I said it has a low ceiling

thats different

[compact siren]

Why do you never invite me to a key mr toph

[lost saffron]

You do no dmg

[undone flower]

I kinda agree especially slarms lower the ceiling tbf

[compact siren]

True

Spongie does less

[lost saffron]

Yeh but spongie is a guildie

Once you join guild

u get to do keys with gigondas

[compact siren]

Gigondas is far too powerful

[torn oriole]

Slayer will become our best Hero talent today? Or we still Thunderboy but nerfed ?

[lost saffron]

@compact siren hop on

we do keys after this

[compact siren]

At work

Despite you

[lost saffron]

I need 4 more keys

[compact siren]

Just don’t do 10s

Or you will the creatures

Why don’t you send gigondas 2 an invite

[lost saffron]

He ignores me

I wonder if gio57 would do keys with me

[dry ether]

got a question tomorrow for reset are we switching to slayer instead of MT?

[undone flower]

Sorry to disappoint you

No

[stoic loom]

Yes

[undone flower]

And you can switch to slayer today you just do less dmg in AoE

[dry ether]

yes, just asking cause reset is tomorrow for me

just wanted to know if slayer would be good tomorrow instead of MT

[lost saffron]

@smoky vale lets do keys

[compact siren]

Isn’t he US

[undone flower]

#updates-midnight message

Slayer is 20% behind thane in AoE

rn

[lost saffron]

am I playing herald of the sun tomorrow guys

[undone flower]

windwalker monk

[coarse nest]

LOL 😆 Gottem

[lament lagoon]

People are going to get ridiculously geared this week with rolls huh

[undone flower]

watch me get the worse items possible on my 2 seat rolls

yes i pick that dungeon to roll

[coarse nest]

I’m sending mine for guidon and pit ring/neck pretty sure

Haven’t fully committed yet

[undone flower]

i was hesitating with pit and nexus point

pls give me the gloves in the vault

[unique pagoda]

how do you think fury will be affected by 12.0.5? is he gutted due to thane nerf?

[radiant plank]

fucking dead man

the thane nerf is killer

💀

[undone flower]

i can roll only up to vanguard, i prefer m+ rolls rn

[unique pagoda]

unlucky, might slayer be an option?

[rotund ginkgo]

Arms is easy

[radiant plank]

no man, its either Arms or Reroll

[stoic loom]

so is every other spec in the game then

[rotund ginkgo]

Matter of fact arms just got easier with the patch

[rotund ginkgo]

Correct

Arms is easy

[digital mauve]

Ok but what about output as a ret ? Is ret steonger than fury and arms?

[rotund ginkgo]

Very I'd even say

[rotund ginkgo]

TELL EM BABYGIRL

[radiant plank]

Arms is harder than 90% of the specs post midnight pruning

[stoic loom]

^

[rotund ginkgo]

God then everything is giga easy

[radiant plank]

watch critcakes vod and make your own choice

[rotund ginkgo]

Arms is so easy wtf

[radiant plank]

yerp

[stoic loom]

correct

[rotund ginkgo]

Maybe it's cuz I played arms s2 tww lmao

But arms is literally braindead

[radiant plank]

the midngiht pruning killed

skill

[rotund ginkgo]

I love it

[radiant plank]

you can pickup a spec and play it at 95%

without a guide

[rotund ginkgo]

I LOVE WHEN MY SKILL COMES FROM DECISION MAKING AND NOT AN APL

[radiant plank]

if you just apply what you know from any other same architype

[stoic loom]

arms has both twice the buttons and twice the conditionals of almost every other spec

[rotund ginkgo]

And arms is giga easy

[stoic loom]

So you keep saying

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm not wrong

[stoic loom]

Ok?

[rotund ginkgo]

You're just saying other specs are easier

And that's fine

[stoic loom]

exactly

[rotund ginkgo]

Everything is easy

I will argue slayer arms is easier than thane fury tbf

[stoic loom]

took me a whole of 3 minutes to learn frost mage its insane

[radiant plank]

if you play a builder spender class X you can play anyother builder spender spec at 95% without reading a wowhead guide

[stoic loom]

fire took me 30 seconds, braindead rotation

[rotund ginkgo]

I'll read it and still play at 80%

[stoic loom]

dont even get me started on dh either

or ret

[rotund ginkgo]

[digital mauve]

By your Logic fury >>> unholy dk which is not true?

[rotund ginkgo]

Some1 told me on stream yday I can prestack might

[rotund ginkgo]

Mf just moved his head away from screen cuz I did that shi

[radiant plank]

was it Cone

@bitter palm

[rotund ginkgo]

Hm idk

Might been

I got raided by Jake and had like 67 viewers

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-school-6-7-8-9-6-7-meme-gif-9283842523222664778

[robust kernel]

do we have an idea what we likely want to be spending our reroll tokens on this coming reset, as i know some of the class discords are saying specific dungeons etc? im guessing ours would be skyreach

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm putting it on pit but I also rerolled sarms

[radiant plank]

Archi will release a coin guide soon ™

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[radiant plank]

after reset is out

so like in 10 ish hours max

[rotund ginkgo]

Isn't reset out in na?

[radiant plank]

Bro pit is the crazies coin key for arms

[rotund ginkgo]

Walhe are u na

[radiant plank]

amazing weapon, belt, ring, neck

[radiant plank]

XD

[rotund ginkgo]

Basedge

I'm gonna send it there fot sure

[radiant plank]

Finland bro

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

[rotund ginkgo]

PERKELE

BASED WALHE

https://tenor.com/view/suomi-finland-hockey-jääkiekko-finnish-gif-21422865

[radiant plank]

Same, already got the ring from vault

[robust kernel]

nw ty wasnt sure

[radiant plank]

I will take the neck, blet or wep please

[rotund ginkgo]

Need wep ASAP

[radiant plank]

Big Crit weppy

[rotund ginkgo]

To go double arcano

[radiant plank]

with low haste

cummi

ng

[rotund ginkgo]

Nah my stats already stacked

I'm at like 34 crit 27 haste

Baseline lmao

[radiant plank]

im at at 37% with flask

[rotund ginkgo]

Ye same

40% in academy LULW

Holy cooked

[radiant plank]

Fierece follow thru + colo pushes me crit

[modest wave]

came back from vacation expecting good news but shouldve known better

[rotund ginkgo]

God the sound of Danish coming from an old lady that chainsmokes is unbearable

[heavy galleon]

so, what to target on M+ for roll bonus MM loot ?

[radiant plank]

archi guide about it after NA reset is live

follow #updates-midnight

[viscid tiger]

I don't quite follow this thread: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/1205-fury-nerf/2284140 regarding the mountain-thane incoming nerfs today for US and tomorrow for EU; people seem to hint that the change was reverted? But that seems to be only true for protection and not fury? Can someone help confirm whether it has been nerfed or not, and whether it's significant and if Slayer is significantly better now making it the far superior choice?

[rotund ginkgo]

Updates midnight is the most correct spot to read on

[rare forum]

Fury channel mostly arms talk now, LUL

[dusky surge]

What do you all think about the Slayer trait being patched this time? Is it a meaningful buff?

[viscid tiger]

Sorry what is this refering to?

[radiant plank]

the specific thane nerf got reverted #updates-midnight message

[rotund ginkgo]

#updates-midnight

[radiant plank]

we are twinning so hard today holyshit

[rotund ginkgo]

LMAO

[radiant plank]

im gonna add u as a friend

[rotund ginkgo]

:3

Do i send stream tonight for more 20s

[rotund ginkgo]

Bro announced it

[radiant plank]

ofc

so you dont miss it

u on dnd

[viscid tiger]

But in this post: (https://www.wowhead.com/news/more-class-tuning-for-druids-and-warriors-in-patch-12-0-5-ptr-development-notes-381217) the changes were only reverted for the prot-section, so are we sure that they were also reverted for fury?

[radiant plank]

yes because blizzard is bad at wriiting patch notes

[rotund ginkgo]

I had my eyes peeled on it dw king

[viscid tiger]

Okay thanks 🙂 - very weird that they're still in the latest announcement from blizz. I'll be a happy mountain thane warrior tomorrow then 🙂

[rotund ginkgo]

I remember when they misspell shit

Or straight up wrong name abilities

[radiant plank]

yeah

warbringer

bbuffed

[rotund ginkgo]

DRAGONS ROAR

[radiant plank]

:) D) D)D: :))

yipee they buffed our removed pvp charge dam talent

[rotund ginkgo]

Warbringer was goated

Rename tmy server lmao

[strong monolith]

its that time of day again

guys is thane getting nerfed

[mossy fox]

practices strikes

[valid pulsar]

loot spec fury/arms doesnt mattter anymore since one handers are gone is that right ?

[uneven path]

Yeh since the SMF is gone fury can drop only 2h

[timid tide]

Huh? Where? As far as I know no changes. Although ST needs buffs

[strong monolith]

[uneven path]

nah, slayer had so strong singel target it had to be slightly nerfed

[wheat socket]

looks like mountain thane is STILL on the menu boys 🥲

[spark sundial]

I wonder if they'll ever explain Fury balancing

[tiny seal]

no need to explain bud just nerf further

[subtle lagoon]

It won't be addressed because everyone is just going to switch to arms which is performing relatively decently.

[royal ermine]

will higher weapon ilvl somehow fill in the gaps in very poor fury's ST dmg? we are currently at the bare bottom of the ST table...

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-gif-18706046

[strong monolith]

Only losers switch.

[chilly fractal]

If you are ever concerned with a raid spot or something… just start DDoSing people in your guild

[subtle lagoon]

We're currently progging paladins and I feel like I'm griefing not switching to arms, but we don't do pussy shit around these parts.

[static shuttle]

just ddos the prot warr in your guild and you have a save spot for buff 😄

[chilly fractal]

You are griefing even thinking you are griefing… need to have a winners mentality

[strong monolith]

100%

Fury good? I play Fury. Fury bad? I play Fury.

Fury is a way of life.

[chilly fractal]

If someone starts to say you should play Arms… they should start to have connectivity issues not long after

[strong monolith]

You know whats better than one weapon?

Two weapons.

Its simple math.

[heavy galleon]

where is the prio list to bonus roll on M+ plz ?

[tardy lark]

there is none, but it'll probably be implemented in raidbots sooner rather than later

[rare garnet]

Every time I’ve tried arms I’ve just… not had any fun. Some rotations capture you some don’t. Might as well ask me to play a mage or Druid. You should want to play your class OS. No, I shouldn’t if they don’t feel like the specs I enjoy.

[tardy lark]

Class Operating System?

[spare steppe]

Anyone know if they mentioned being able to use multiple rerolls on a single boss or dungeon in a week?

[random shadow]

Idk about raid but should be able to use multiple rolls on the same dungeon if you run it back

[undone flower]

Droptimzer all dungeons already exist

[tardy lark]

Yes, but people dont like thinking for themselves and need a button that says "bonus roll m+ sim"

[granite crown]

Raidbots won't know which items are excluded from bonus-roll-loot-table, so anything other than droptimizer + a bit of brain won't exist I think

[tardy lark]

i guarantee you it will exist

by the power of simc being open source and claude code existing

[granite crown]

Top gear will have the currency too, but there's no plan to add anything else afaik:

[undone flower]

Oh so you will have excluded items on the droptimzer

[tardy lark]

With manual input on raidbots i guarantee you there will be a thing

whether its included in the simc import, idk

no clue if they can pull that from the characters currency tab

[granite crown]

So you'll sim droptimizer dungeons + excluded items, multiply by 2, and compare with raid droptimizer I presume. Then work out if you care about expected value or late-game bis trinkets or whatever

[tardy lark]

the talk about lacking api for it is probably that

[undone flower]

I already did my droptimzer so it will depend if I get a chest tomorrow

On which dungeon

Or seat gloves