fury

[coarse nest]

Xdd real

[onyx spire]

I know I'm making a million mistakes but I would love some help https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6HxZPrMnaqBN4Fwy?type=damage-done&boss=-2&difficulty=0

I feel like my damage profile is not right

[rare garnet]

Tell tank to pull bigger. Blame healer for making you use globals on impending victory.

[coarse nest]

Ethical gamering self heals

[rare garnet]

No DPS No BIND

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-iv-dolph-lundgren-captain-ivan-drago-if-he-dies-he-dies-dies-gif-4956349

[worn rain]

BT is enough

[fringe arch]

I've been enjoying fury more than arms. Is fury going to be ok after new patch? Idk how to read.

[worn rain]

if you can't read, state of spec should not bother you too much

you'll be fine

[thorny verge]

Fury will always be ok. We can use two weapons and look cool

[worn rain]

double fyralath benching let's go

[olive wraith]

Keep on brother

[rare garnet]

Reverse Guildmaxing. Go down in guild ranks till you’re the best highest damage player on the roster so you’ll never get benched.

[thorny verge]

I have the feeling people tend to forget to have fun and just want to meta slave nowadays

[coarse nest]

Actually a considerable path

[rare garnet]

Rank 2000 guilds doing splits talking about rerolling OS cause it’s better going from orange parses to grey parses energy in the entire wow community these days

[worn rain]

it's all shine and non meta motivation until you get your chance to have fun at the bench

[rare garnet]

Quit CE raiding and bottom end 3 day guilds doing 6 months of raid locking prog to a 1 day guild that gets as far as we get and doesn’t lock. Best mental health change.

[keen kindle]

Kinda this

[coarse nest]

I’m on the cusp

[keen kindle]

if I ever do mythic it's casually. I will never see CE

[coarse nest]

Big thing for me is losing the speed of gear acquisition

But also vibe >> anything else

[rare garnet]

True but with how wow is I feel like it’s never been easier. I mean, I’m 2/8M and 281 right now. Not feeling gear impact at all.

And now we’re getting these rolls.

Shiiiit. Gear just falling all around us these days.

Plus this catalyst system. Got week 1 vault heroic tier. 2 catalysts. An LFR tier. 4p week 2 into infinite catalyst glitch.

[lilac osprey]

Yeah the catalyst changes have made gearing feel way smoother, not having to minmax how you spend the charges is great

[coarse nest]

Spend all that extra time boosting and just buy the ce mount in the last two weeks at its cheapest xdd

[keen kindle]

I just wish the drops were account wide from the rip after getting 4pc on one toon

[rare garnet]

Yeah if you even care. But more time to gear alts. Quest. PVP. Whatever. It’s been nice not wiping to a boss for 3 weeks 3 nights a week in a guild rushing RWL

[dry hawk]

It was at one point😭 wish they kept that

[oblique thistle]

They shower us in gear so we have time to decorate our houses lol

[keen kindle]

Honestly sometimes I think going to a pure M+ gamer was a good choice

[keen kindle]

I think next season they might

It was a bug this time, but I imagine it could just be made into a feature

[dry hawk]

Prolly costs a raid tier

[toxic pivot]

Are the builds changing at all tomorrow??

[keen kindle]

no

[toxic pivot]

Cool

[dry hawk]

Slightly stronger I'd think

[rare garnet]

I still think average key length is too long but yeah. 100% agree. I just don’t like the infinite challenge increase mythic raiding has been grinding towards. Make fun accessible bosses. But instead they make RWF tuning and walk back nerfs for 6 months like a dams floodgate controlling exactly how may can cross the line. And with that I don’t see under top 200 guilds you even have pride in the wins anyway cause the boss the 2000 guild killed is a shadow.

[keen kindle]

I think that's genuinely a fair take

Personally I just know I'm not good enough for it and after last time I went hard in the paint for raiding I think I'm good

[random shadow]

if its what you enjoy then its a good choice, im also a m+ enjoyer for the most part, once i get gaze and heart at mythic im not gonna care much, ill stioll do raids when the guild wants to but idrc once i get my trinks

[wicked imp]

Hey folks, do we have sims for the upcoming patch 12.0.5? Will Fury Thane still be a thing? or are we gonna swap to slayer? is both irrelevant, cause Arms is becoming way to big?

[random shadow]

thane still good, dont have to swap to slayer if you dont want, arms col is still better in numbers yes, play what you like unless youre pushing 20s

[rare garnet]

Alternatively I think there are some Chinese slayer 20s so sky is the limit

[random shadow]

highest ive seen last night for slayer is 19s, probably 20s today tho

[frank dawn]

with brain off rend + Bladestorm burst I think Thane/Slayer will honestly be like basically identical in the 12-14 range if you're just farming vault keys or whatever

but yeh if you're pushing you'll prob want to be Thane

even pushing to 16s if you want 3400 I think they'll be pretty damn close

[wicked imp]

iam gonna thane for m+ and slayer for raid enviroment. having fun. Thanks lads 🙂

[random shadow]

is 3400 just all 16s decently timed or right at the end of timing with liek 1 second left

[frank dawn]

I'm pretty sure 3400 is the baseline for timing it, even if you do it with one second left

[random shadow]

play what you enjoy unless you deeply care for the numbers

[frank dawn]

so if you 2 chest a few 16s and have some big 15s you'll prob hit it

[random shadow]

then you wouldnt play warrior if you care for numbers

[rare garnet]

I wouldn’t worry. 16s will feel like 12s after all the turbo boosting by end of season

[random shadow]

ye but thats towards end of season, im wrapping up my 15s soon, gonna be in 16s soon

and was just wondering, since curious and guildies are also curious

[frank dawn]

I mean starting next week people gonna blast, the voidcore thing doesn't take more crests. Altho I guess you also can't turbo farm it

but extra myth gear from keys, weekly voidcore ilvl boosts

[random shadow]

the point system makes me sad, like why is my +2 15 pit only 2 more points then my +1 15 skyreach

smh

[rare garnet]

Need to make it like PVP if you don’t time a key your IO goes down.

[slate light]

gulp

[olive wraith]

That would be cancer

[random shadow]

im just getting slightly annoyed with the typical dps que, thinking of even going prot for my last 2 15s then maybe my 16s

[slate light]

idk, i got in to my 15s and 16s in like 5 signups every time

[whole star]

So you guys aren't very worried about the Thane nerfs?

[slate light]

my highest ever rating was like 3.1k

[random shadow]

im not really getting into my 15s within 5 signups unfort, not like im that low either

[spice lodge]

no nerfs.

[craggy escarp]

They reverted those initial changes. Thane is staying the same

[rugged cedar]

single target buffs when

ret damage or riot

[strong monolith]

guys is thane staying the same

[whole star]

Brooooooo thank you

[random shadow]

is the move tomorrow, just doing 4 bountiful delve for the forge quests

[stoic loom]

i'd say next expansion

[young swan]

2 messages

[stoic loom]

but our ST has been a joke for a while now

[young swan]

literally 2 messages above

[whole star]

Notes i read did not have the note, sry

[strong monolith]

Im memeing

[olive wraith]

Looks like thane nerfs question won

[young swan]

please dont

[bitter palm]

bro its

pmo atp

every 3 seconds

thane dead???

[rare garnet]

Thane isn’t even the best warrior spec it’s crazy they wouldn’t nerf it

[whole star]

Lmao

[echo rapids]

Not catching a terrible nerf is the new getting targeted and appropriate buffs

[oblique thistle]

You say this and slayer just caught a small st nerf

[strong monolith]

I'll be back in one hour to ask again

[oblique thistle]

So....

[olive wraith]

Tbf arms caught the most random nerf start of season

[strong monolith]

whats arms

[bitter palm]

goat spec

[oblique thistle]

You mean legs warrior

[strong monolith]

dont know it

[whole star]

Give arms Thane and I'll play it

[olive wraith]

The better warrior dps rn

[oblique thistle]

No

[rare garnet]

Fury colossus would be fun

[random shadow]

furys more legs then arms currently

[strong monolith]

I've been fury for 15 years

I aint changing now

[random shadow]

espically in keys

[whole star]

For real, I think they mixed those two up for sure

[smoky vale]

guys is thane dead???

do i go arms now????

pls help

[unkempt oasis]

No. Go mage.

[rare garnet]

Yup

[random shadow]

mage is dead

[oblique thistle]

Play dk

[random shadow]

go demo

[unkempt oasis]

War ded class

[sterile hearth]

dps prot

[random shadow]

actually

[whole star]

🫩

[random shadow]

go aug

[smoky vale]

pblast already exists

[random shadow]

aug instant invite

[smoky vale]

my red is more geared

[random shadow]

frfr

[rare garnet]

Play devo or Aug or you’re inting

[random shadow]

devo what

dh?

[echo rapids]

Play a caster if you want to do well season to season

[strong monolith]

arms vs fury

[random shadow]

cause devo evo

is throwing

[indigo totem]

If you change the icons on dk it’s just warrior anyways taps head

[young swan]

see this makes more sense than the other versions of "thane dead??" because its actually true

u should just go arms now

[smoky vale]

man its crazy how easy i procced them

[strong monolith]

Play fury

[young swan]

thane is dead not because of thane, but because arms is cracked

[strong monolith]

Forget what these people say

[rare garnet]

There is devo and deve

[smoky vale]

[rugged cedar]

"cracked?"

[random shadow]

you right

[whole star]

Is arms fun rn tho

[rugged cedar]

still does tank ST

sad

[smoky vale]

cluegi

[random shadow]

does this mean if i go arms ill be invited faster then my fury

:O

[rugged cedar]

no arms hasnt been fun in like 15 years

[olive wraith]

Slarms doesn’t afaik

Colo I think it depends if tank brings funnel into bosses

[bitter palm]

pull 2 mobs on boss

[whole star]

For phys comps Id say yes but I don't push crazy high

[bitter palm]

and it does highest st in the game

[rugged cedar]

cant do that in like half the bosses and also needing to do that is incredibly cringe

[olive wraith]

Doing that saves a a lot time

[random shadow]

its no different then when arcane mage did it for 2 seasons

[olive wraith]

In all season lol

[young swan]

there are plenty of classes that have needed way more cringe shit to be good

[bitter palm]

just play slayer then

u do the same st as everyone else

[random shadow]

TWW that was what arcane mage was

[young swan]

dont understand how its suddenly bad when arms does it

[random shadow]

just funnel into boss

[rugged cedar]

besides, even if it gives you great funnel, those mobs are going to be alive for what, like 1/4 of the boss health?

[olive wraith]

Facts

[bitter palm]

there are funnel pulls where it lives for the entire fight

like vordaza in maisara

[young swan]

ends up being 1/3 - 1/2 because of the funnel

[indigo totem]

Only if your group is being paddy piggies

[bitter palm]

usually 1/2

[rugged cedar]

which is every single group ever

[bitter palm]

im not saying its great in pugs

[olive wraith]

“I hate this strategy because it never works for me”

[indigo totem]

Doesn’t really seem like an arms problem. It sounds like a pig problem.

[bitter palm]

if ure in voice premade and ur premades want to time keys

they should stop taking ur funnel

[smoky vale]

me when havoc and mage perma cried about it past 2 seasons

and they had to have

otherwise it was unplayable

[rugged cedar]

if you could reliably do it on most bosses, fine

but you cant

[smoky vale]

but you dont need it on every boss

???

[rugged cedar]

col arms, great 1/2 the time is not a good spec

[young swan]

some bosses just do it for u

[random shadow]

then is fury a good spec

[whole star]

What is the funnel you guys are mentioning, idk newer arms

[rugged cedar]

of course not

[smoky vale]

cdr on demolish cs ava

[rare garnet]

I hard target cleave off smallest targets to get the funnel killed because fuck you if I can’t be good neither can you.

[smoky vale]

bc you can just cleave and spend more rage

[young swan]

fervor of battle

[smoky vale]

and get more cm

and fob

[bitter palm]

a lot of things

really

[young swan]

yeah theres like 5 things

[whole star]

Hahaha yeah

[young swan]

its ridiculous

[bitter palm]

dreadnaught is a silly one but its technically funnel

[smoky vale]

bro dn is fake

[bitter palm]

gio five seven

explode

immediately

[smoky vale]

[bitter palm]

did u overtake me in rio

i havent done a key

in 2 weeks

surely

[indigo totem]

Should probably clarify if he’s asking what funnel arms provides - or what funnel is in general

[smoky vale]

3684

[bitter palm]

axxaaxxa

6 below

problem?

17 algethar still

[whole star]

The former

[smoky vale]

lost 19 aa by 6s

[bitter palm]

gg

colo times it

(it doesnt)

[smoky vale]

i went colo for 2nd attempt

[young swan]

isnt that one of the only dungeons where colossus kinda stinks

[bitter palm]

ye

[smoky vale]

we died first pull bc my hunter was hitting wrong lasher

[bitter palm]

its the only dungeon where it stinks

[smoky vale]

and my tank flopped

[bitter palm]

on skyreach u funnel everywhere

except 3rd

[young swan]

how do u funnel first

[smoky vale]

it unstinks if you can get FUNNEL ON 3rd boss

[bitter palm]

pull pack behind boss

[young swan]

i see..

i thought the door was closed

[smoky vale]

also lashers perma spawn

[smoky vale]

is this an aug moment or

[bitter palm]

idk rsham does it

[rugged cedar]

i just do not understand how you can think this is reasonable tech for anything but not just a coordinated group but an extremely coordinated one that is going to cater the route and pulls just to you

[bitter palm]

for farover

[random shadow]

funnel is good no matter what

[rugged cedar]

which most are not going to do

[whole star]

They did mention with a premade group

[young swan]

just ask them to pull stuff onto boss before key start

[rugged cedar]

even my premade is not going to do anything i ask them to

[young swan]

bad premade then tbh

[rugged cedar]

they are literally goign to say "fuck you roll a dk"

[indigo totem]

It only matters if you’re doing high keys as well.. like just play fury in your 14 it’ll be okay..

[smoky vale]

i can guarantee you

people are doing it in no coms 19s

[indigo totem]

High key pugs are capable of pulling funnel in

[rare garnet]

And they’re not wrong

[rugged cedar]

i know they arent

[dapper goblet]

Thank god dk is getting buffed tomorrow

[smoky vale]

amen xeos

[rare garnet]

Yes but they have to use DND again and they’ll hate that. So we win. Right. Muhahaha.

[whole star]

Frost? 🫠

[dapper goblet]

i'm a dnd enjoyer

think ST it will feel weird but its good in aoe

[rare garnet]

Uh needs pruned IMO

[dapper goblet]

it already got pruned

like every other class

[smoky vale]

xeos are you a deathwheels enjoyer

[dapper goblet]

Idk what that is chief

[smoky vale]

frost

[iron portal]

DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS?!

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-wtf-gif-18188575

[smoky vale]

ik unc fr played that in his youth

[dapper goblet]

last time I played frost was jailer tier

when you were 8 years old

[fickle vector]

lol

[smoky vale]

uh no way

wasnt jailer like 3 years ago

[dapper goblet]

and

was like 5 at this point

[smoky vale]

i turned old enough to vote then

[dapper goblet]

6 even maybe

[smoky vale]

7?

[onyx mountain]

hey weird question but should I switch from frenzied enrage to powerful enrage if I can't make the most out of my gcd due to poor connection? especially during bl

[smoky vale]

not really no

it might be computer or sqw issue

[onyx mountain]

was on a beloren 1 phase only group and during egg I felt like I was waiting forever for my shit to go off

only during bl + trinket

so idk

[smoky vale]

https://youtu.be/23es61x6Nmw?si=qJZyYE1BNqd74YbE

check that out

[whole star]

Fury made me change spell queue too haha

[young swan]

i wont presume to know your internet issue, but there is just a pretty consistent issue with fury and gcd misqueuing during high haste

its been especially bad this xpac

[terse ether]

whats the recommended spellqueue window for you guys ?

[young swan]

i use 250

[lilac osprey]

Whatever you find most comfortable

[whole star]

I add 100 to my ping

[young swan]

not below like 200 is prob best

250ms is like average human reaction time

between 200-250

[whole star]

What is default? 400?

[young swan]

yeah

u want it to be high enough you can queue your next ability, but low enough that you can react before it goes off if you get a proc or something

[tacit moat]

is spell queue a default blizzard setting?

[young swan]

yeah

its just a console command

[smoky vale]

its one major reason why wow is playable with lag

[mild thunder]

I always set mine low cause I'm spammy as it is.

[modest condor]

low sqw is bad

[spare steppe]

I did an OCE key in EST, and boy I did not have a good time

[modest condor]

The idea behind sqw is that it's physically impossible to always press your button perfectly on time, so instead you can press it early and the game will automatically press it when the previous gcd is over.

But pressing buttons still physically takes time, most people spam their buttons, but you're probably only pressing it like 4-5 times per second or something, which means there's roughly 0.2 seconds between each button press. So in that scenario, ignoring ping, if your sqw is lower than 0.2 there's a chance on every button press that you press it too early/late and delay your next ability. Which over time adds up to missing abilities.

[copper parcel]

Dem crikey fucked ya?

[onyx mountain]

will check it out, ty!

[modest condor]

objectively there's not really any reason to lower your sqw from the default (400ms) altho some people find this makes the rotation feel delayed

but even if you lower it you dont want to lower it too much

[young swan]

yeah i feel like any lower than like 250 is doing too much

250 is comfy for me tho

[dim spindle]

I think it's so awesome that not only does Ice Spice play WoW, she plays Warrior and frequents this Discord server!~

[dapper goblet]

1 of those things is correct

i'll let you decide which one

[dry hawk]

I use 100 over ping for melee, and 250-350 for a caster

[dim spindle]

"Xeos is Ice Spice irl"

that thing?

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[modest condor]

real

[dim spindle]

Don't deny it, I won't stalk you. Promise 🙂

I'm your biggest fan. - Stan

[modest condor]

i dont remember there being an ice spice in the spice girls, did she leave them early or something?

[dim spindle]

She replaced Baby Spice who is now just Old Spice

[modest condor]

old spice body wash?

[dim spindle]

I stole that one from a Comedian ftr, probably Rogan or something

Actually it was Kurt Metzger

The Prophet

[opaque condor]

is stance mastery really worth it over Barb training for slayer single tar?

[dense elbow]

Sim it

[dim spindle]

Is that what's recommended? Might be for uber keys

I can't see how it could be a damage increase in any way

[opaque condor]

just off the wow head guide, seems off thats all

[dim spindle]

But I'm just a squishy human, not a superior robot overlord

[opaque condor]

i know its low prio but 10% still seems better over 3% auto

[dim spindle]

But if you need the defensive boost, it's pretty damn powerful

[dense elbow]

Stance mastery stance is Uber strong

[dim spindle]

Especially since the "20% of your maximum health" bit is applied to the pre mit damage. Or so I heard from somebody smarter here a while back

[modest condor]

i mean waht does barb training do for slayer? 10% damage increase on raging blow?

that's a 0.3% dps increase

[dense elbow]

RB is 3% of your dam?

[modest condor]

something like that

[dim spindle]

Yeah I kinda just noticed he was talking about barb training and not the usual commander question

[modest condor]

i just opened the first slayer log i could find

[dense elbow]

Gotta spam WW more, smh

[dim spindle]

I suppose the AA boost could be close to the same or better, which would definitely be the choice on top of the def stance buff

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-devil-diabolique-evil-gif-9725651736562738158

[dense elbow]

Maybe they should increase the AA boost to 150%, fix our ST issue

[dim spindle]

I like Funky's idea. Spam WW and RB more, then barbaric is better. win/win

[dry hawk]

RB needs removed

[dim spindle]

This one too

As long as it applies to thane as well

I can't believe I'm being bullied into finally switching to Arms. Not cool

[dense elbow]

RB just needs opportunist to hit harder

[vapid orchid]

Hey warriors, quick question. With the changes coming in 12.0.5, is there a consensus yet on if Thane still remains the spec of choice for m+? Or have the changes pushed Slayer on top like in early TWW?

[dim spindle]

Blizzard and my guildies all ganging up on me

[modest condor]

yes thane will still be better in m+

[dry hawk]

Thane is fine that doom got reverted

[dense elbow]

Slayer is "weaker", while Thane is the same

I dunno man

[dim spindle]

Right, but Arms.

[modest condor]

slayer gains a solid amount of aoe

[dry hawk]

Imagine thane Arms

[dense elbow]

During reck, for sure

Thane arms would fit quite well Col Fury, not as much

[modest condor]

well i say solid but it's probably less than 5%

nowhere near enough to compete with thane

[spare flame]

<- demolish hater

holy fuck i hate that ability

[dense elbow]

Dont need to compete, if you aint in the race

Just play for fun

Be happy

[dim spindle]

We shouldn't have laughed at Arms so much during prepatch and the start of the expansion. Karma is real 🙁

[dim spindle]

Yeah but meta

[left sage]

100%

[dense elbow]

I told you, told you they were 1 buff from op

Did ya listen?

[dry hawk]

OF bleed dot is fun to watch shit melt

[dense elbow]

Nah

[dense elbow]

I want the happy pills you on, that got to be that good sheit

[dim spindle]

meta > fun. If I can't be ahead of #2 on the meters by at least 50% in my +10 pugs then what am I even doing

[dim spindle]

I know a guy

Just saying

[dense elbow]

OF and melt shit, now that is a take

[dim spindle]

OF tickles them so hard they just fall to the floor giggling

Then the good classes mop them up

[dense elbow]

We take the wins we can get

We helping

[dim spindle]

Ah crap, I'm fully on board the doom train... get me off 🙁

[dim spindle]

Hand me some of those happy pills please

[dense elbow]

Eyebeam does 1.2million

OF does 120k

Ah yes

We melt sheit

[dim spindle]

mm that's the stuff

A new (to me) high quality gif. Maybe it'll be a good day after all

[dense elbow]

Always a good day, when we didnt get nerfed

we on a streak

[dim spindle]

Until tomorrow, bracing for crash out.

[dry hawk]

^ you get some too

[dim spindle]

Arms buff = fury nerf imo

I'm tempted to head over to the arms channel to cry a little

And blame them for everything

[dry hawk]

First pull of AA and being laughed at for not breaking 400k is sus

[dense elbow]

good idea

[dry hawk]

Looks like I finally have to go craft a Mythic weapon/Shield for Prot

[frozen cave]

Does arms do more dmg in m+ or fury?

[static rock]

Does anyone know how slayer will be for fury in the .5 patch? like will it even be close to thane in m+ or nah?

[abstract tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/grave-rip-gif-8652722

[static rock]

They are generally better for damage in really high keys

but for most it doesn't matter

[dry hawk]

oh no I can execute for longer, better go play arms

[dense elbow]

Same as now, less RNG on bs burst. Better flowing gameplay

[frozen cave]

Which spec has better cleave?

[dense elbow]

Arms, cleave makes our whole dam profile look lacking

[static rock]

It's more like they have better mass aoe

[frozen cave]

I only know Prot but I’m trying to try arms/fury a little and wanna have fun with lots of cleave

[dense elbow]

Play fury

[dry hawk]

Having to press that fucking button on ST is sus

[dense elbow]

More fun playing Fury

[frozen cave]

I see

Fury rotation also looks way harder

[unborn delta]

It’s only from 35-20% hp

Fury rotation is much easier

[static rock]

it's not

[unborn delta]

Stats wise arms will be better though

You prob have 0 mastery

[dry hawk]

Arms rotation is simple, rage management is people's issues

[frozen cave]

For aoe you’re pretty much going back and forth with enrage/thunder while sending Bloodthirst on cd?

And the occasional big cd buttons

[static rock]

pretty much

[unborn delta]

Tclap on cd

[dim spindle]

Stay away from the Arms channel, guys. They're bullies

[frozen cave]

When do you use raging blow? Just send it on cd?

[dry hawk]

Raging blow?

[river nimbus]

You never use it

[dry hawk]

You can almost unbind it LOL

[vernal lichen]

So thunderthane is dead after patch or am i crazy

[dim spindle]

You're crazy

But that's ok, I can relate

[vernal lichen]

?

[abstract tulip]

dps warrior is deaded, time to reroll unholy

[frozen cave]

The Icy veins aoe priority has raging blow in there

[dim spindle]

Real talk fury will continue to be just fine unless you're truly pushing top keys

[dry hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-gif-20402854

[dim spindle]

Archi says that's incorrect. "confirmed"

What Archi says, goes

If you say otherwise you are a filthy heathen

Check the updates-midnight channel

For the holy Word of Archi

[dry hawk]

I got promoted to Thane Prot

[vernal lichen]

Touche, i believe it was mentioned specifcally for prot that that was being redone / removed

[rare garnet]

I’m gonna say it’s 50/50 what happens and I won’t be surprised either way. Blizzard is chaospilled

[vernal lichen]

Didn't mention anything for fury, fuck i hope thats true.

[undone flower]

It’s at the bottom of the priority, you use it when everything above is impossible

[dim spindle]

It was/is, Blizzard is just not the best at writing patch notes and making sure they're accurate. Hard job I guess

[vernal lichen]

Fair neough !

[dim spindle]

Can't even put 5 minutes into updating the post. Multi dollar indi etc etc

[dry hawk]

That's ok, it's probably AI written

[dim spindle]

Probably. The entire internet is probably AI written at this point. Including me

And you!

[rare garnet]

Alternatively removing on PTR was a mistake and they intend it to hit live. Who knows. Spin the wheel.

[frozen cave]

I see. I was initially using it as a rage builder and just sending in cd

[vernal lichen]

Yeh if thats the case then, thank fuck. I been torn between swapping between fury and arms and i think that relaly did a number on me lmao

Love fury but arm's kit is looking relaly nice...

[dim spindle]

Don't fall for it. I'm convinced that Arms is the handiwork of Satan himself at this point

It's just another evil temptation

I may give it a shot this week just for a change, though... I guess. But if I see ONE empty global... REEEEE

Or I could just fire up the ol' warlock, go demo, and cheese my way to the top of the pops

But that wouldn't be very warrior like, now would it

[meager coral]

The one intern who runs the Warrior class strikes me as an Arms player. He’s been trying to make it the main spec since BFA.

[vernal lichen]

Lmao, i def get those feels, makes me feel like im playing it wrong ngl.

[dim spindle]

Warrior dev's discord kitten gf plays arms (but mains Holy Priest, obviously)

[dry hawk]

If they would return it back to the slow hitting spec or was, that would be great

[dim spindle]

And the dev himself plays DH

[meager coral]

Maybe they just want all of us to go cleave in TBC....

[covert coyote]

10% of arms dam comes from Skyfury so if you're not playing with a shaman you might as well stay fury

[echo rapids]

I finally gave colossus a good shake last night and while it’s not awful playstyle, it really is not fun without a shaman

I still think if I can’t use execute on cooldown during execute, the design of the warrior spec in question is flawed

[covert coyote]

Same, I've been dabbling with slarms / colo for about a week. it's not terrible but the ST is trash and the rage is scant

[echo rapids]

It is kinda fun if you can pull trash onto boss

[coarse nest]

You missed playing it at one of its best iterations

[covert coyote]

I actually like slarms, pressing execute is fun. but colo turns me off so I'm probably just gonna stay fury. slarms is the only thing that will bring me over currently.

this is just a feelsbad time for fury imo. slayer feels bad to play to the point I just play thane in all content. And I'm not the biggest thant fan. I just can't believe they have me pressing wrecking throw and rend over RB. makes me sick and the spac less fun

[drowsy heron]

tomorrow slayer should get better

not sure how much better but better

[coarse nest]

Really? I’ve heard nothing but the opposite

[abstract tulip]

RB should also be better tomorrow

[covert coyote]

rending on WW is cool, the rts changes I'm kinda not looking forward to. I miss having any remotely useful ST/prio dam

[modest condor]

you didnt have that in the first place

and there's barely any noticable st loss

[covert coyote]

literally last season

[olive wraith]

Funny

[drowsy heron]

is RB going to be better tomorrow? didnt see any changes

[olive wraith]

Rb was untouched

[abstract tulip]

rampage will procc rb

[drowsy heron]

yea but that doesnt make it better

[abstract tulip]

am I high or didnt the cd reset procc also increase damage

[quiet geyser]

Ur high

[abstract tulip]

ok nvm then back to pressing rend

[quiet geyser]

Slayer has a talent that works when rb resets its own cd (not hack n slash), and there's surge of adrenaline

That works the same way

[tawny turtle]

Little late to ask this but with the slayer changes tomorrow will that finally be more viable in Raid or is Thane still the go to

[drowsy heron]

both are viable depending on what you need i think

[quiet geyser]

Tbh fury sucks ass for raid

Play either or

And be sad

[drowsy heron]

Slayer is still slightly higher ST

[coarse nest]

Fury feels bad because you’re supposed to be the add guy but other specs take it all

[quiet geyser]

That is 1 of the worse bullshit philosophies

[abstract tulip]

fury is the rallying cry

[quiet geyser]

Ya let's make this spec do barely above tank boss/st dam cuz it can kill adds.. so its good week 1 then terrible rest of the patch

[coarse nest]

Probably what they actually say in the meeting too

[thorn schooner]

What can we use to get out of the Gargoyle grab in Pit of saron ?

[split radish]

wrecking throw kinda destroys the shield

[graceful mural]

What if Iww worked with wrecking throw and javelineer

Pocket sand but the sand is weapons

[fallen ginkgo]

meld it if youre nightelf

[stoic loom]

Think u mean neither are

[stoic loom]

I love doing more boss dam but getting a worse log every week because adds die faster and faster

[echo rapids]

That Maddox video had me depressed, we are just not built for modern wow with anger management

[vestal root]

id ask what video but i dont wanna be depressed too

i already am

next xpac surely i reroll to better class.....

surely

[echo rapids]

TLDR anger management means our cooldowns have to stay weak because they are up more often

And all these raid fights are built around longer duration cooldowns

[vestal root]

yeah ive discussed it before too

AM nerfed us hard

[modest condor]

you know we've been good with AM multiple times

[stoic loom]

AM has nothing to do with us doing tank damage on bosses

[modest condor]

it all just depends on tuning and fight design

[echo rapids]

And we were in tww s3

[vestal root]

i know but they design around burst longer cds

[echo rapids]

But we need to be overturned

Get saved by a giga tier set

Also I’m sure it’s been discussed by why are we not on the sim craft raid chart?

[keen kindle]

Welcome to cdr classes

[frank dawn]

Surely tuning notes today to go with the patch right

[echo rapids]

Surely

[olive wraith]

RR talent redesign

[echo rapids]

Feels like cdr class + IWW effect

[olive wraith]

In its place is a bonus for dual wielding 1h

[keen kindle]

Yeah basically were lowkey the same as outlaw

But outlaw dosent qonna admit it

Hell discount outlaw cuz flurry is just better

[frank dawn]

I'm not sure I understand the folks that think improved ww is a problem. It has to be the easiest tuning knob of all time to simply reduce if needed. Meanwhile both Thane and Slayer have a decent number of abilities for AoE balanced outside of Imp WW

[echo rapids]

Let’s be real outlaw has drip we wish we had

[echo rapids]

No one is saying they can’t

[modest condor]

lots of people say they cant

[echo rapids]

But like, it’s the .5 patch

[modest condor]

it's one of the most common "arguments" for why fury can't be good on st

[keen kindle]

I mean tbh fury still has a good amount of aoe outside of ww

[echo rapids]

They could easily adjust the percent up or down like they did with shadow

[keen kindle]

OF, blast and clap,

[olive wraith]

Now we do sure

[echo rapids]

They even adjusted the percent during beta

[olive wraith]

Reap

[keen kindle]

Yes im aware it wasnt always that way

[olive wraith]

Iww being a problem is more from like mid tww and before

[echo rapids]

IWW percent should be an easy ST vs aoe tuning knob

[frank dawn]

maybe next patch someone will care about this class

[modest condor]

it is and it has been many times

it's been 50%, 45%, 55%, 65%

[echo rapids]

Yep

The issue is blizz seems slow to do that

[olive wraith]

I blame spriests

[echo rapids]

We just need it to be done more proactively

[quiet geyser]

We were 1 of the best pure ST specs in both tww s2 and s3. We just missed big burst so kinda fell off for amps cuz we were pure throughput.

[echo rapids]

I know, and S3 we had a nice niche of also being able to do good cleave on a nearly pure ST build

[quiet geyser]

I dont see the argument that AM is the problem then lol

[echo rapids]

S3 we had a busted tier set

[frank dawn]

to be fair, IF we get some aura tuning Bladestorm could finally be a real big boi button again. It's not gonna be bad with the 20% baseline, but if they then also tune up the entire spec on top of that Bladestorm could be kind of real

[abstract tulip]

for more than 20 years blizzard has seen warrior as the "default" class, outside of classic, warrior never really peaked on the meters, we are just not special or flashy enough to be more than decent

[frank dawn]

it won't be the best, but it won't be laughable

[coarse nest]

Blizzard just simply doesn’t want Warrior to be more powerful than the ranged

This will never changed

[echo rapids]

Think of all the damage amps, we were pretty shit there

[quiet geyser]

Still dont see how this is tied to am.

[coarse nest]

People lose their shit when warrior is good at anything

[untold heart]

Is tomorrow the .5 patch?

If so is MT still getting nuked?

[quiet geyser]

Fury doesn't need aura tuning, it needs specific tuning to its rotational abilities

[wispy bridge]

Very general question, should I craft a third piece lika a ring for example or would it be a wast of myth crests (especially if I still have myth items I can upgrade)?

[echo rapids]

We were ass anytime there was a damage amp

Honestly we are kinda lucky these raids don’t have much of that

Saladbar is what? 20%?

[modest condor]

the only time we've had meaningful burst in the past couple of expansions was when we had a tierset specifically designed to buff our burst

AM is not the problem

talking singletarget

[sonic shoal]

Bring brack old Draught of Souls ;_;

[quiet geyser]

It kinda does. Salad, crown (once big adds get enough stacks). Hell even the bird is an amp technically cuz you want all your dam into egg

Furys profile still sucks lol

[coarse nest]

Copy paste /simc into top gear
Manually upgrade each peace of myth track gear to each of its possible upgrades 2/6 3/6 4/6 etc
And also create the crafted piece you’re considering.
Run the sim and do what it says goes you the most dps

[modest condor]

df s1 we played RA and our st burst was mid, tww s1 we played RA and our st burst was mid

[echo rapids]

You don’t see how AM contributes to our lower burst?

[wispy bridge]

I mean it would for sure be a dps upgrade, I am more asking if I should save those crests for when I get a myth piece in vault/raid next week or spend it now on a crafted piece

[olive wraith]

We’ve had burst with am

I don’t understand

[quiet geyser]

Dude

No1 cares about burst lol

Fury just needs to be able to do good st in general

Which it doesnt

A flat profile is fine if its good

[sonic shoal]

Okay, but right now our burst is Reck/Odyn's/Bladestorm OR avatar, where is the burst? Compared to MM let's say

[coarse nest]

Reset is tomorrow, I’d wait if I was in your shoes unless your team is on the cusp of killing a progression boss where dps is the failure point

[olive wraith]

We don’t have burst currently

[modest condor]

there's nothing on lura that would make fury more wanted if it did the same overall dps but it was more bursty

[echo rapids]

Tuning and burst are both issues rights now

[quiet geyser]

Take burst out

And you'd be right

[chilly fractal]

But if Lura of a sudden took 500% increased damage from Fury warriors

We may start cooking

[olive wraith]

Flat and burst can both be good. It depends on raid design

[olive wraith]

Check updates

[echo rapids]

Flat profile is only better then burst if over tuned

Blizzard doesn’t design fights around a flat profile very much

Although it’s fair that a lot of the burst needs are aoe

[quiet geyser]

While I agree burst profile is better as its more forgiving for any form of downtime, it honestly doesn't matter. Thats not furys issue right now

Basic tuning is

[echo rapids]

Tuning is the biggest issue it’s true

[quiet geyser]

Rotational abilities just hit like wet noodles

[olive wraith]

So we have burst now?

[echo rapids]

Our cooldowns will always have to be weaker if they are up more often

Thanks to AM. It’s not always a huge issue if we are tuned well or over tuned

[olive wraith]

Oh boy

[echo rapids]

But it just exacerbates bad tuning

[olive wraith]

Just circle jerking now

[echo rapids]

Ok

[quiet geyser]

You realize there's specs that exist

Who have high burst

[echo rapids]

I couldn’t find it by searching channel, how come we have no simcraft profile?

[quiet geyser]

AND low cds?

Ret is the first that comes to mind

[chilly fractal]

The memes

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-the-memes-memes-raiden-look-up-gif-16560167

[echo rapids]

They could certainly give us a better cooldown

[quiet geyser]

Or.. you know.. Just pull out the tuning knobs 🤷‍♂️

[olive wraith]

Thane also has impactful cds while having high uptime in those cds

[echo rapids]

Avatar to 40%, problem solved

[chilly fractal]

100%

[rare garnet]

Retire AM. 30s reck.

Make me the melee BM of my dreams.

[last belfry]

Sorry bro, its already exist, and is named Retri

[quiet geyser]

Actual facts lol

[rare garnet]

Ret is a ranged DPS

Change my mind

[indigo totem]

Literally a mid range spec, no mind changing needed.

[echo rapids]

UDK enters the chat

[last belfry]

if we could have like 1% of attention they give to UDK and Retri

all specs would be pretty good

[maiden ingot]

Ret and Dk are just better than Warriors, because they are evolutions of Warrior and this is an mmoRPG.

[unkempt oasis]

Ret doesn't have the utility warrior provides though

[olive wraith]

Utility mentioned

[echo rapids]

Every UDK update in beta got a small novel of blizzard post with it

[olive wraith]

Fill out your bingo cards

[unkempt oasis]

I was being sarcastic >.>

[warm crag]

utility mentioned!!!

[last belfry]

I bet next week they updating Reap the storm proc again

[warm crag]

i mean ret is in the same boat as warrior where you're only brought if you're overtuned as fuck or their other specs suck ass so you gotta bring one as a raid buff

not like they provide anything unique over any other dps spec

[abstract tulip]

blessing of freedom wants to have a word

[last belfry]

sacrifice, lay on hands, freedom, bop

battle ress

[unkempt oasis]

Blessing of freedom bop..

Yeah

[abstract tulip]

he comes with his friends, combat res and lay on hands

[unkempt oasis]

Like all of it

[last belfry]

we would need atleast a lust

or bring back mop battle stantards

[echo rapids]

Just wanna zug zug

[olive wraith]

If utility was an actual reason

Aug would have been meta every season since creation

[smoky vale]

thats fake

we just need more damage

[warm crag]

if only warriors had access to a battle rez man we'd be brought to every key

[smoky vale]

util cope is meaningless

[echo rapids]

Utility is bullshit

[coarse nest]

Fuck that I don’t want to be responsible

[warm crag]

even if its a "worse" battle rez like one that has a smaller range like melee and itd leave the rezzed people at like half hp instead of full

[coarse nest]

I’m just trying to do damage

[warm crag]

shame warrior cant even get that

[coarse nest]

Stop asking for responsibility

[smoky vale]

cluegi

[last belfry]

yeah more zug zug would be pretty good

[stiff maple]

The amount of people who dont bring cables to keys is so annoying

[abstract tulip]

warrior needs bloodlust, theres no reason it doesnt have it yet

[warm crag]

i dont bring cables due to me not caring

[smoky vale]

yep everyone doesnt have access to cables

[echo rapids]

I kinda like the name cringe cables

[coarse nest]

Take my stun and kick and add 200% damage to all ability’s ffs

[warm crag]

warrior does not need bloodlust because it doesnt matter and would completely break the tank meta

[quiet geyser]

Warrior needs to do damage. Thats it.

[stiff maple]

I mean every class can "need" bloodlust

[coarse nest]

Every single talent in our tree should be a choice node with +5% all damage

[warm crag]

you'd actually be invited to even less keys if warrior got bloodlust

[last belfry]

we need a 4st spec called spartan

[coarse nest]

You guys are nuts

No lust

No Brez

No group shit

+morbillion damage

[sly merlin]

we legit just need more dmg

[stiff maple]

I agree id personally love utility, but when it comes to viability and being invited to shit that's not what warrior misses

[desert cloud]

so fury still better than arms ?

[abstract tulip]

warrior misses one influencer saying "you need to take a warrior!" and everyone would take them

[last belfry]

more zug zug

[olive wraith]

Than what

[sly merlin]

arms better

[stiff maple]

We already have shout, this is quite strong for any comp that utilizes it

[desert cloud]

i literally said better than arms

[compact knot]

yo guys having bloodlust wont fix any issues btw

[abstract tulip]

good thing we arent in a caster meta

[olive mica]

hey all. is it ok to post my logs here to get some tips and pointers? or do you have a special channel for that

[olive wraith]

I responded before your edit. Chill

Arms better

[compact knot]

people will still take a aug and itll still do more damage and have lust

lmfao

[sly merlin]

shout rally 2 multi target stops

[desert cloud]

when did i edit lol

are u tweaking

[sly merlin]

free ourselves from chains on seat npx and the dot or whatever on pos

[olive wraith]

You see where it says edited

[desert cloud]

i just forgot the r in better

[warm crag]

crazy ragebait tactic

i need to copy that one

[compact knot]

"yo guys add lust to warrior so we can have lust and still not be taken to keys"

"yo'

[desert cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-lion-thinking-ragebait-rage-bait-monkey-gif-14090242814517187668

[unkempt oasis]

I apply to keys with rogues as the leader and get in almost 100% of the time.

[warm crag]

imagine if warrior got lust tho

youd just have prot in every key and none of these fuckers would get to press lust

[desert cloud]

then it would be worth to inv me into a 10 when i timed it on 15

[warm crag]

either way aug is broken enough to be in for every key so no one cares about lust

[last belfry]

[abstract tulip]

so what youre saying is we should all reroll aug cause thats how mmos should be played

[desert cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[olive wraith]

Imagine a season where all lust classes were ass

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbo-t1-lol-league-of-legends-esports-gif-15310081642824361258

[warm crag]

i think you have an extremely warped perception of how the game is played and should be enjoyed

[echo rapids]

Such a gorgeous spec, it’s like 45 apm with a simple rotation

[sly merlin]

maybe lust debatable if it was only fury cus that kind of makes sense with the theme but even then it wouldnt be enough

[desert cloud]

i hate dragons

i hate looking like a scaly

[stiff maple]

Seems to me like phys can do completely fine tbh

[desert cloud]

i hate looking like a twink

[unkempt oasis]

Is it true Aug have a femboy chat?

[olive wraith]

You can make just fit any class theme

[desert cloud]

i'm never touching that class unless it can be other races

[smoky vale]

its just #augmentation

[compact knot]

idk

its not even that good

[smoky vale]

it is when you perma chain pull

[abstract tulip]

they even chose such a skinny model with eyelashes that make it look like a deviant art portrait

[smoky vale]

or have breath for every pack

[warm crag]

its pretty stupid damage even with teams that dont match its buff cycle

[desert cloud]

we all know who was working on those models

[echo rapids]

The dragon kin models from BWL were right there

[desert cloud]

do you guys know the reason why those dragons keep getting better every season

[warm crag]

just click the button that makes you not go dracthyr or

[desert cloud]

it's because no one plays that race/class

[olive wraith]

Cap

[desert cloud]

so blizzard buffs it

to get more players

[smoky vale]

why do you talk about a class that you have no idea how it works

[desert cloud]

and even with buffs no on plays them

[desert cloud]

bcz i know how it works

[smoky vale]

no you dont

[desert cloud]

🤓 why do u why

[olive wraith]

The 5 surv hunters would like a chat

[desert cloud]

there is 2 million bm hunters

in the game

[olive wraith]

That’s not surv

[last belfry]

we are 6

[desert cloud]

blizzard only sees numbers and thinks yes buff or nerf

there is too many warriors

can u guys reroll or something

[olive wraith]

Ok bud

[woven valley]

I love that archi had to make a huge post in updates essentially saying “you get NOTHING!” Haha 🤣

[last belfry]

i don't think so

[abstract tulip]

blizzard doesnt want you to know this but they will add warbound itemlevel cause rerolling is easier than balancing

[olive wraith]

Fukn rogues in shambles

[desert cloud]

fake news

[olive wraith]

Holy shit

[sly merlin]

fury 3rd most played melee dps

[desert cloud]

it's because i played sub back in tww s4

so they had to nerf it

[unkempt oasis]

You have to really hate yourself to play rogue.

[desert cloud]

i was hating myself while playing warr so i just rerolled to rogue

[sterile hearth]

I remember getting declined for a 10 key so the group could take a second ret. rip.

[desert cloud]

and sub was so fun ngl

i liked spamming abilities to get my cds back

[woven valley]

This still happens as ret is braindead easy since the midnight changes lol 😂 like easier the bm was last xpac

[desert cloud]

basically a better fury warrior

[abstract tulip]

didnt expect dh tanks to be more popular than monks

[desert cloud]

i saw a bm guide on ytb

they have 3 buttons

nothing can be easier

[last belfry]

man is awesome how in any patch they make bm more easier

[desert cloud]

barbed bite and cd

[last belfry]

is the same with retri, i remember in DF had like 6 buttons, tww was 5 ]

now 4

[desert cloud]

those are the only abilities

[sterile hearth]

They'll wait for half the warrior community to reroll before buffs come in just to torture them more.

[woven valley]

Ret essentially has 4 buttons and bm had like 5 in tww so kek

[rare garnet]

If a warrior rerolls they’re not a warrior.

[desert cloud]

i mean they keep buffing/changing war and they end up nerfing it unintentionally

they just don't know what they are doing

[rugged cedar]

blizzard has no clue

this we know

[last belfry]

ofc they don't know what they are doing, when we don't even have a dev

since DF

[desert cloud]

damn

[last belfry]

ig the last expansion i saw fury and arms balanced was DF

[desert cloud]

df was the last time fury was good

LET FLY

first pull was so fun on arms

[sly merlin]

they need to bring back onslaught

[last belfry]

liked too much when warrior was pretty more simple

[woven valley]

I mean the fact they made raging blow and bloodthirst switch priority WITHOUT making bloodthirst be able to lightning strike is crazy. The class design is wack atm

[desert cloud]

nah

[olive wraith]

Yes they do they gave us rend. An iconic warrior ability

[last belfry]

now every dps spec in warrior need a lot of shit to stack

we cant zug zug more

[sterile hearth]

Wherever I go, I must zug.

[quiet geyser]

Theres x2 more devourer dhs, 2.5x more demo locks, 1.5x more MM hunters and 3x more frost mage players in mythic raid than there is fury wars. All of them top tier specs

[desert cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-memory-monkey-memory-gif-15374159

blizzard balancing the numbers

[woven valley]

So real, like Makes zero sense to give thane something it barely procs because you don’t even use half of it

[olive wraith]

Wdym

[jagged silo]

u stack nothing in fury

nothing that u have to keep up with at least

[spice lodge]

U stack carpal tunnel.

[last belfry]

arms colossus need stacks demolish and apex, fury slayer need bladestorm stacks, only thane don't need stack of some shit

before was a way more simple

[jagged silo]

trueeeee

[desert cloud]

next patch will be " we are buffing raging blow by 500% and nerfing BT by 600% because warriors haven't been pressing raging blow as much as we would like"

[quiet geyser]

This tier you stack depression

[last belfry]

u would just charge and bladestorm boom 500000000000 damage

[sterile hearth]

No other class feels right for me so I always end up defaulting back to my warrior. Been that way since 2005. So I stick out the low times yearning for the good days.

[last belfry]

now u need a lot of shit to do damage

we need more zug zug

[jagged silo]

pop reck ava and slam thunder clap

thats pretty zug to me

[olive wraith]

You don’t track bs stacks

[woven valley]

They just need to let all of fury’s abilities have a chance to proc strikes, would be hella more fun than how it is now

[desert cloud]

🤓 actually i stand there for 2 seconds casting box

[left sage]

Do I have any real chance at parsing by using Slayer Hero Talents or am I cooked?

[desert cloud]

no

just check lorrgs and see what specs people are running

[echo rapids]

Thane just does better aoe

And that’s part of a good log

[desert cloud]

guys can we lock this discord or something

like paladins did

let's stat a revolution fuck it

[woven valley]

Blizz dosnt care about brown class

[desert cloud]

sub class

[woven valley]

They no know zug

[quiet geyser]

Take that passion and make a forum post

[last belfry]

yeah they don't like more darker classes

[desert cloud]

if i had the patience to write a post i wouldn't be pressing enter every 4 words

[woven valley]

Warrior mindset on full display

https://tenor.com/view/thats-my-brother-doughboy-boyz-n-the-hood-thats-my-bro-bros-gif-21699140

[hot shell]

[sterile hearth]

zug zug the keyboard

[desert cloud]

high apm keyboard

[woven valley]

High apm low word count

[desert cloud]

i hate seeing long lines

i think it's easier to read when seperated

[olive wraith]

Every warrior spec needs a shield

[desert cloud]

i mean

in pvp we can

[sterile hearth]

double-shield wielding

[desert cloud]

press shield block

some people do it in 2's

[last belfry]

i remember we even had a macro in older expansions for it

[desert cloud]

all warr specs have shield block baseline

[left sage]

Well I don't care. If I have to play a spec I do not want to play then the game isn't worth playing.

[desert cloud]

play monk

i just leveled one i get invited even tho i'm 230 to 10's

i'm living the life

[woven valley]

Dark souls 3 pvp build ass haha

[desert cloud]

yea and call abilities shield blow

shield thirst

shield fury

[wary fjord]

Shieldpage

[desert cloud]

shieldecute

[last belfry]

why they don't make execute cleave

[left sage]

If I wanted to play it I would be playing it. I came here to have fun not to minmax my enter life

[desert cloud]

it does

[last belfry]

we literally already have a talent for it

[wary fjord]

Shieldwind

[last belfry]

in 3 specs i mean

it already exists in prot

[desert cloud]

shieldblast

shieldclap

shieldnessness

[wary fjord]

Shieldstring

[desert cloud]

shieldatar

[last belfry]

[wary fjord]

Shield's Fury

[desert cloud]

shield stance

[last belfry]

Shieldstorm

[dense elbow]

how to make your execute do 0 dam on ST, the talent. Just ask prot

[wary fjord]

Shield Bolt

[desert cloud]

shieldwave

[wary fjord]

Shield Shout

[desert cloud]

shield shout

[wary fjord]

Shield Cry

[last belfry]

Shield leap

[wary fjord]

Shieldrge

[desert cloud]

shield wind

impending shield

[wary fjord]

Shieldmel

Shield Rage

[desert cloud]

shieldervine

[wary fjord]

Champion's Shield

[desert cloud]

shielding howl

shield wound

shield meat

[last belfry]

Shield throw

[desert cloud]

shield and gain

who is this guy btw

why is he crying

[rare garnet]

Guide writers clueless

Clearly

[wary fjord]

i do agree that i dont really like that they dont force ER

but its whatever

[compact knot]

the spec is tanky enough already

you dont really need wall to live if you are a good player on fury

[olive wraith]

I’m dying in an 8, clearly it’s the guide writers fault

[wary fjord]

im just more worried about the healer being bad

[compact knot]

spell reflect acts like a wall on a 20 second cd or some shit

[wary fjord]

[smoky vale]

me when dstance

[honest trail]

What's the interrupt macro you guys use for Lu'ra interrupts?

[compact knot]

/focus [@boss2]

/cast [@focus] pummel

[viral bay]

Hi, i have 4 sparks of radiance and already have a 285 crafted weapon as fury. I haven't been lucky with weapon drops (been trying to farm magister's 2h 'whirling voidcleaver) for a while its not dropping). Is it worth to craft another 285 weapon now or just continue to craft the bracers as per the guide in wowhead?

[honest trail]

Thanks you

[compact knot]

change the focus in the focus macro to w/e boss frame ur on

[honest trail]

aye

[compact knot]

you cannot have the 2 lines in the same macro or else it wont work

[honest trail]

Wat

[compact knot]

need to be seperate macros

[honest trail]

This is absolute trash

[random shadow]

Are we really spamming whirlwind tomorrow. Did the change go through?

[compact knot]

one for setting your focus, then another for kicking your focus

[honest trail]

This sucks balls

But thanks for the response

[compact knot]

its not that bad

[honest trail]

I hate anything that's adding buttons

For the sake of having more buttons

[viral bay]

Please help I'm lost 🙏

[compact knot]

considering reset is tomorrow i would wait

for a couple of reasons

1 being you could get a myth weapon from vault

2 being you could get a myth weapon from rerolling it

[thorny jewel]

So according to the pinned post today in updates channel, fury ends up getting a small ST nerf? When we are already the worst ST class in game? 🙁

[compact knot]

either way though i think you dont craft a 2nd weapon, the offhand slot isnt very important, what i would do is craft bracers or cloak, probably bracers

[cinder shale]

is the crest cap going away tomorrow?

[compact knot]

i wouldnt think so because we are only like in week 5 or 6

or smth

they havent said it

[cinder shale]

gehh, i was hoping. I always get burnt out long before it gets removed lol.... thanks though

[compact knot]

i hope it doesnt

[random shadow]

Maybe itd a good thing for you that it doesnt then

You'd get burnt out farming the crests

[compact knot]

i do not want to have farm 500 more crests b4 l'ura

[spare steppe]

I don’t like the crest cap disappearing

It disrupts the cadence

[warm crag]

has the crest cap being unlocked ever actually mattered for gearing purposes

[compact knot]

im fine with it being gone in like 3 weeks

[random shadow]

Not really since it was late into deason

[warm crag]

iirc i was always done before the crest cap got axed

unless you're doing really shit inefficient crafts every week i guess

[random shadow]

Most folks gearing would've been done by then. Now if they drop it tomorrow thst changes

[abstract tulip]

I will be done with crests in 2 weeks, myth track gear is coming in slower than crests rn

just use crafted gear for hero upgrades

[random shadow]

I should finish hero tomorrow's reset. As for myrh crest I need the actual gear

[warm crag]

if you didnt grief your hc crests for no reason you should be hc capped next reset ye

[random shadow]

Depends on my vault

But I did greift 20 crests

[warm crag]

if its vault dependent its probably griefed ye

[random shadow]

So id have to drop 20 myth but its fine