#fury

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compact knot
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700k

smoky vale
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30% ms crit

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🥀

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get those crits up man @vocal thorn

vocal thorn
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lol

compact knot
smoky vale
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do you know if oyua re still supposed to execute 2 times before bsing

sullen dove
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idk aug buff strength pot cs, gaze proc

compact knot
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124k -> 784k

smoky vale
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in execute?

compact knot
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try not to overcap during BS

sullen dove
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the highest ms i see for all of friday's pulls is 616k

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which surprisingly does not happen in p4

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but maybe thats like early p4 prog barely saw it

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idk if dmg buff scales on live people or not too

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like the crystal pulsing dps

smoky vale
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wes are they conviced about arms damage

sullen dove
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but 616k highest hit i see for p3

smoky vale
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or what does the big atnos think

sullen dove
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😭

vocal thorn
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this spec is useless until p3 lmao

compact knot
vocal thorn
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no kap

compact knot
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so

smoky vale
vocal thorn
smoky vale
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btw

compact knot
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all this arms talk in the fury channel

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fury spec doomed

smoky vale
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we are discussing the raid march of quel danas

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and the impact the warrior "illhitu" is having in his raid

sullen dove
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will he hit them though

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that remains to be seen

tall rampart
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Do we remove Whirlwind from action bar this season and just do Improved Whirlwind buff via Thunder Clap?

compact knot
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dk dont even have good execute

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and it still out dpses arms in execute

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xdd

smoky vale
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fym no good execute

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it gains on dc

compact knot
sullen dove
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heres all of the buffs he had for the 750k ms

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smoky vale
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look at alexg go

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sullen dove
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does seem like actually all of them

upper rivet
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Has anyone tested Fury Slayer on the PTR?

compact knot
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yeah bro 30% on a button that does 10% of your overall outside of execute

sullen dove
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brutal finish, fierce followthrough, EP, trinket proc

smoky vale
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i mean you're talking baout execute though

sullen dove
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stacking like 200% dmg on an ms

compact knot
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ik i am

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but like arms gains a shit ton of damage from the execute button itself and it big buffs ms

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still losing

smoky vale
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wait does this affect your pets as well

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compact knot
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nah

smoky vale
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zzz'

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if it did

compact knot
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dont think so

sullen dove
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ah yes all your pets that are named scourge strike festering strike and death coil

smoky vale
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dk have been big h

compact knot
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nobody knows what the fuck that spec does anyways

smoky vale
compact knot
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they do death coil

sullen dove
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5% dmg lole

compact knot
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but i dont think it makes it do more

sullen dove
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30% more of 5% ahh

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1% more execute pogging

smoky vale
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man

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i miss sanlayn

compact knot
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maybe it does

sullen dove
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either way hopefully more arms will be killing beloren by tuesday but if not then i must pioneer

compact knot
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actually dont think so nvm

sullen dove
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with only an eroka to go off of

compact knot
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uhdk stupid ass spec

sullen dove
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surely i will administer my maximum potential

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rly just figuring out if 2t colo gains enough to beat slayer on the 1 target

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but think unlikely

smoky vale
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gn yapteam

sullen dove
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tho just comparing my 1targets from the quad sim above slayer is 11% ahead on the 20s sim

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if i get a 2nd demo that did 11% overall it maybe breaks even?

smoky vale
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should i have taken a pbox on my warrior...

sullen dove
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perhaps roughly equal then just comparing prestacking imminent demise's 2 extra ms's vs prestack 10stack demo

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i had a myth pbox with leech this week

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but took socket instead to kill alleria

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little did i know

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need that shit for the next boss

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didnt research enough unfortunate

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but eh hero good enough surely

smoky vale
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wait nvm

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it appeared in my dks vault

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not my warrior

sullen dove
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i hope i either get a necklace or shoulder out of raid vault

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main thing i rly need

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weapon would be nice ish too but the higher ilvl would mean nothing

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but 282 shoulder just save 40 myth crests over my hero ones ive had for 4 weeks

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nut

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or 289 alleria neck save 80 crests to upgrade an eventual salhadaar neck surely

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gigabust

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will also take a 282 salad neck if i must

smoky vale
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tomorrow

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i am wishing for a chest 2 trinkets

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and shoulders

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amen

sullen dove
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wym tomorrow

smoky vale
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raid i am attending

sullen dove
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o

smoky vale
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need to be spoonfed like you

sullen dove
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pred raid

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yea die

smoky vale
sullen dove
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im like 0.5 pieces per week this tier

smoky vale
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whyd they slime you out

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after asking for you evoker logs

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ig they saw you only play dev

sullen dove
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idk chuds

smoky vale
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but idk why that matters in 4/9m

sullen dove
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demolish all of them as dev allg tho

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prolly just 0 mythic

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i posted my main like a week or two ago you'd think they have sense

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allg tho

smoky vale
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so is dragindeez ever gonna go aug

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and play the game

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or

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maybe even laval

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👀

sullen dove
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i have yet to see an aug do anything worthwhile in a key

smoky vale
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man i seen some shit

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aug is broken

sullen dove
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i do a key without aug i do 160k i do a key with aug i do 160k

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wow

smoky vale
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you dont get it

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having your group not worry about cc

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but also it just does most damage

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idk

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looking at kess logs its disgusting

sullen dove
indigo arch
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The glacial pace at which crests are gained getting pretty annoying

sullen dove
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yea hope uncap is kind of soon

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like obv there should be a cap earlyish season but we're at that point now man

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let the floodgates loose

smoky vale
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it doesnt make that kuch of a difference bc most people dont have full myth gear

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nah man i have 0 gear to spend it on

sullen dove
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i could spend 100 crests i dont have rn

smoky vale
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im in hell

indigo arch
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I know they need to give fathers of 32 with 27 jobs who play loading screen a chance but fuck off with that

sullen dove
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on 3rd crafted item and 1 upgrade

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and then vault next week if i take gear

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and like maybe 1 more singular raid item i need

indigo arch
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Trying to escape hero track upgrading and shits so slow

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100 a week

burnt kelp
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enjoy the journey

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it's not about the destination

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aren't you having fun

indigo arch
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So much :)

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Reminds me gotta pug H and M dreamrift for week, better buy more tokens

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Wonder if ppl even giving up heroic ones for gold

burnt kelp
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everyone has a price

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so a guy pay 800k gold for a heroic one

rare flame
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Beasts are we really just gcd rotating between rampage and thunder clap during avatar? When/is it ever worth fishing for procs with bloodthirst or even ever pressing sudden death?

sullen dove
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Sd on aoe pretty much never during this time unless u actually full run out of buttons which basically shouldn’t be possible and u can press bb/bt when you’re around half rage and going clap>bb>clap doesn’t rage cap you or at least not too hard

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but yea you only keep tclap on cooldown while Ava is active which is like 25-30ish seconds usually

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Assuming mass aoe and ur not trying to prio a main target/group of mobs

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But yea pretty common to have sudden deaths just falling off

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out of Ava tho pretty normal rotation exe is like 3rd/4th button priority to hit

rare flame
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Yeah figured as much^^ was only BB’ing in avatar when i could afford to (not cap following next clap), but was just wondering if BB’ing to fish was still worth even if it meant capping

sullen dove
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Yea not rly, tblast good but not that much better than tclap and rampage pretty universally better than bb

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Cdr more important and spam the stacking 3% strength buff every ramp applying to all your aoe

rare flame
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Makes sense, cheers geeza 🙏🏻🙏🏻

sullen dove
alpine palm
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After the .5 patch, Fury gets RTS on ID procs as well as when Rampage hits 3 via whirlwind or is RTS on ID being removed?

lusty jungle
calm frigate
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hello frens ive seen ppl have an addon to make ww cleave stacks bars

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is that still alive

lusty jungle
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Improved whirlwind tracker

wintry karma
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After Tuesday do we swap to slayer

fiery edge
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swap to devourer keks

unique pagoda
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is recrafting weapon to non embelished and getting embelishment on cloak to go from 266 to 285 worth it or should i craft the non embelished cloak cuz weapon embelishment is that good?

haughty quest
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Weap is Good

calm frigate
tall quiver
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I see some conflicting priority information between wowhead and wowanalyzer.
Wowhead says Rampage when over 100 rage is more prio over thunderblast when you have 2 stacks, Wowanalyzer says the opposite. Which one is correct?

radiant plank
rare flame
tall quiver
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well, actually wow analyzer says it on imperator, so i'm not sure if it changes it more aoe priority there

rare flame
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Less overcap=more rage=more rampage

unique pagoda
tall quiver
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so in single target you go @rare flame
Rampage over 100
Bloodthirst
Rampage
Thunder blast on 2 charges
Execute
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rare flame
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Yep exactly

tall quiver
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And thunder blast on one charge?

rare flame
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Pretty sure its still lower prio than wrecking throw but probably higher than a raging blow

tall quiver
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so during recklessness (and avatar) TB with one charge is lower prio than execute? And when you talk about raging blow, do you mean crushing blow during recklessness?

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This is what it gives me in wowanalyzer, it also mentions single target rotation

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rare flame
pearl sequoia
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cha cha real smooth

worn yoke
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a 96 losing to an 84 with 1 less IL. AA16 no deaths good pull cadence.

Buffs when?

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rare flame
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Ive seen enough. Nerf warrior.

bitter palm
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0 demo parse

rare flame
torn oriole
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Slayer will become our best hero talent for Mythic + ?

rare flame
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Negative ghostrider

torn oriole
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So we just got nerfed hard for nothing ? I was thinking Slayer will become the DPS Lord with the auto rend now

rare flame
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blizzard really, really badly wants you to press this button all xpac blast

torn oriole
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But I want to Bladestorm

rare flame
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Just play what you want twin lowkey we’re shit anyway Rampage

indigo arch
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s1= arms angle if after numbers

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or other class

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maybe in s3 they'll randomly tune fury after dartboarding to it

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like in tww

fiery edge
hushed ocean
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Maybe some last minute tuning tonight ?

pearl sequoia
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surely

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can one of you work at blizzard to push warrior buffs?

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seriously a lack of commitment ive been noticing

rare flame
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I work at blizzard

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Last minute nerfs coming tonight 🙏🏻

pearl sequoia
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that would be so fire 🔥

uneven path
undone flower
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Next Friday

lean lava
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12.05 means that fury slayer will be playble in m+?

tired bane
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low keys yes sure

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😄

dense elbow
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It already is playable in keys tho

fiery edge
dense elbow
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We on a dooming to doom day again?

fiery edge
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from average mid to below average mid keks

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endless cycle of dooming deadge

junior crag
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yoo anyone has messed around with spellquewindow? whats ur guyses setting '? 300, 400 (default) or 100+ ur ping ive heard is good to maybe?

undone flower
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150≈200 + ping

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Is the minimum

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I play with default 400

vestal root
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also default, never messed with it

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dont see a reason to

junior crag
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ye tried messing around a little since i felt delay sometimes but lowering it just made it feel worse

vestal root
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more often than not its not the game eating an input its you pressing it at the wrong time

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lot of people messed with it and made it worse

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so yeah default best

undone flower
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I never really understood what is the benefit of reducing it tbf

fiery edge
lean lava
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i have swiched from 400 to 150, cuz often i overwrite my spell, and finally press noithig, much better for me at 150

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got ~20 ping

junior crag
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yea i got 20 ping too but i dunno feels off

fiery edge
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never experience below 100ms monkahmm

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is it any better than 120ms?

vast token
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Happy Rending folks

fiery edge
vestal root
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Happy and rend dont belong together

signal falcon
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Has Rend ever been a cool button in the history of Warrior

winter shoal
signal falcon
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Even in classic it was ass

vestal root
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Rend and things that interact with it have always been ass but blizz and like 5 arms mains insist on it because its "iconic"

stoic loom
signal falcon
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Did they give it some interactions with other abilities back then

odd agate
stoic loom
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Which was a good button to press back then

signal falcon
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Classic Overpower do be feeling good

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I think for me to care about DoTs it either needs to trigger something like that or do omega dam

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Or tick really fast (looks cool with high crit)

modern leaf
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is it possible to leap in windspire last boss over the big circle without getting dmg?

lost reef
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No but u can bladestorm through it

dense elbow
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DH double jump dash didnt work, so i presume not

But you can get knocked and then leap over. You also want to go into the knock to clear the DoT element

So just do the mechanic, if you ever got no choice, you can try to jump and leap, as a hail marry

modern leaf
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yea i always leap after getting knocked. was wondering if only leap works without getting hit

modern leaf
dense elbow
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It is a stun, you can spin to immune okayge

lost reef
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during bladestorm u are not getting stunned so u will not get hit by the aoe that drops on the ground

dense elbow
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Just go DK and AMS the DoT and ignore the wave dodge. Your dps will be a lot higher too

modern leaf
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ah good to know

dusk knot
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why do i sim higher in single target as fury thane compared to arm slayer ?

velvet loom
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Im seeing on logs that alot of the top warriors are using Thane in most raid fights, but I cannot nearly get their DPS even when i have higher ilvl just minus the bis trinket. Without use being able to see alot of details in damage meters now (cast amounts, buff uptimes, etc). My guild is clearing heroic Crown in 8 mins, whereas the top warriors are doing it in 2.5 mins. But, I am at like half their dps. What can I do to try to improve myself.

dense elbow
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Dont directly compare yourself to others with different kill timers. Go to logs and find similar times

velvet loom
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k ill try that

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thnx

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I just hate that blizz is blocking basic deatils from meters. IDK why we cannot see spell cast amounts, or buff uptimes anymore.

dusk knot
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in cast tab should be there

valid pulsar
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anyone here who usses ayjin cdm

radiant plank
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ayjiecdm?

fiery edge
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u guys go thane or slayer on bird boss

valid pulsar
undone flower
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Sim dps doesn’t translate one to one into raid dmg

dusk knot
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ah ok ty

sullen tendon
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With 12.0.5 is slayer going to be closer to mountain thane on aoe or is mountain thane going to still be much higher in damage. Do the whirlwind changes affect the rotation in that you want to spam whirlwind more during cds?

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Or is everything the same rotation wise and it’s just a little extra spin when you upkeep meat cleaver

honest trail
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You just Whirldwind above RB above 3 targets

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Doesnn't change much

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QoL life changes making it smoother & bit stronger in aoe

left peak
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so its a buff on slyaer overall

dry hawk
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Wish it was 2+ targets😭

olive wraith
olive wraith
stoic loom
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nerfing the ST of one of the specs that is already bottom ST is a decision for sure

honest trail
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Pray for some buff for ST

olive wraith
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Regroup in s2

echo rapids
olive wraith
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When we get our bleed tier set

honest trail
olive wraith
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Bleeds +25% dmg
Rb causes a raging bleed on primary target stacking up to 5 times

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Spear of bastion gets replaced by TR

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7 bleeds gaming

burnt oxide
olive wraith
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That’s s3

oblique thistle
olive wraith
oblique thistle
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I gotta admit I am having a lot of fun playing slayer fury in keys, so I am looking forward to Tuesday changes

honest trail
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Slayer is much more fun but the current design is so bad

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Next week will be slightly better

echo rapids
storm lake
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what do you guys run on sim for the droptimizer in m+ dungeons, dungeon slice?

olive wraith
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I usually do patchwork st

dry hawk
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Gimme back legion Bloodbath Fury and I'd be happy

heavy ether
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slayer is way more fun for both specs. I hate when colo or thane are good

spice lodge
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Is anyone playing with rampagin ruin instead of massacre in m+? execute seems a bit underwhelming anyway.

olive wraith
spice lodge
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what about mt?

fiery edge
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wtf ST dmg is so aaaaah

hollow bloom
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I have a question about this: Reap the Storm has been updated – When Rampage hits 3 or more targets via Improved Whirlwind you have a 20% chance to unleash a flurry of steel, striking all nearby enemies for high Physical damage and applying Overwhelmed.

That means every rampage hit or all the hits together have a 20% chance?

olive wraith
olive wraith
hollow bloom
dry hawk
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"housing isnt going to have player power" KEKW

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tawny sonnet
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How nerfed will the class be on wednesday? Should I respecc? We have a mythic raid coming uo soon and im worried about my dps

fiery hare
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unplayable

dense elbow
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you should delete your char, jump off a bridge, swim to warlock land

tawny sonnet
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I expected this

dense elbow
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TLDR:
We didnt really even get nerfed

pallid brook
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Hows fury lookin goin i to next week

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Anything good?

dense elbow
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Nothing good, nothingbad

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Well, I love some of the changes

pallid brook
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shieee

tawny sonnet
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Didnt they nerf thane thunderclap in ptr ?

fiery hare
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no

pallid brook
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My dude funky is full of it

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Poor guy

dense elbow
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Hm?

pallid brook
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Been there good times

fiery edge
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just play devourer atp sadge

dense elbow
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No, I do love that Bladestorm dam is not reliant on Reap RNG, but got that dam moved into the ability itself

I like that Ramp reaps over BT, as it makes our Reck window flow better

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We kept our SD procs

static mountain
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Isnt slayer ST taking a big hit with next patch?

dense elbow
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All is good

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It is taking a hit, not big

tawny sonnet
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Yea it is a cleaner rotation

dense elbow
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Overall there are some good changes

pallid brook
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Theyre just making it really hard to enjoy this class atm tbh

dense elbow
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How so?

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They just made slayer so much more fun to actually play

pallid brook
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Yall were playing thane?

dense elbow
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Thane is untouched?

tawny sonnet
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I love thane. Not looking forward to spamming execute as slayer tbh

pallid brook
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So whirlwind now gets us rend on targets right

dense elbow
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Oh, I forgot another Slayer win, Rend

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yeye

pallid brook
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Yea thats nice

dense elbow
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So Slayer got so many wins

pallid brook
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Im starting to be full of it too

dense elbow
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There we go

orchid oyster
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Oh thank God I can ignore rend

pallid brook
static mountain
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But we lost chance to reap with bt. And that affects unhingned aswell 😢

dense elbow
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This patch is overall a good one - even if we prob will need a touch up tuning wise

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gameplay tho

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solid improvments

pallid brook
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Yea

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Should flow better

static mountain
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I hope ur right funky

tawny sonnet
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So what you think ? Switch to slayer and call it a night ?

dense elbow
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I know I am right, I been right for a long while now, trust in the Funky

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Why swap? Thane is the same and still stronger

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"stronger"

static mountain
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I can only play slayer…thane os just garbo

dense elbow
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Then just play Slayer, noone will stop you

tawny sonnet
pallid brook
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Im gearing my dk tbh now that my warri is just vault maxing

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I like warris but it just aint it yet

dense elbow
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Another 20% BS buff, another push to make SD stand out

BT value going down, so RB goes up

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We soon there

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(also OF buffs once tier leaves)

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We having a good time

pallid brook
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Onlyfans getting buffed?

dense elbow
pallid brook
dense elbow
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One day they will add OF icon in here, one day

pallid brook
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Itll happen eventually

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With enough bad jokes

dense elbow
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They better call it FunkyWon

pallid brook
tawny sonnet
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So ptr changes are not official yet ?

dense elbow
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Offical notes are out

pallid brook
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They will be in a few days

dense elbow
tawny sonnet
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Fml. Just when i started getting good at this game

dense elbow
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wdum

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nothing changed, other than for the better

pallid brook
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Get gudder

dense elbow
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I for one am 100% going to get a DPS increase (other than on ST), as I am a Rampage press over Bloodthirst enjoyer by habbit

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Reck window sends me all Rampage, Rampage, Rampage, ODYNS FURY

pallid brook
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Me too actually

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I have to remind my self for the other one

dense elbow
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Life is good, life is nice, Fury Warrior will be still mid dam - but gameplay, gameplay remains 8/10

pallid brook
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If my dk gets to where i want it to be i might drop this shenanigans tbh

tawny sonnet
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Yea I read the official patch notes just now. Slayer is gudder. MT is getting a slight hit

pallid brook
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Getting sick of this cycle each expac

dense elbow
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What hit did MT take again?

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I cant remember

static mountain
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Lmao, i wish i was as hopeful as u funky

dense elbow
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I aint hopeful, I know

tawny sonnet
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Thanderclap nerfed. Cooldown and damage

dense elbow
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huh

fiery edge
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reverted

tawny sonnet
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What ?

static mountain
dense elbow
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OF buff inc, I am a very happy lad

tawny sonnet
hexed wave
dense elbow
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For the 100th and 928th time

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yes, no nerfs for thane

tawny sonnet
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WHAAAAT

dense elbow
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that is you

fiery edge
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i find slarms more fun than thane sadge

dense elbow
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That is fair, but Slayer Fury is better than Slarm

fiery hare
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slayer arms is more enjoyable than colo but i just cant do dps lol compared to fury

tawny sonnet
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Dude im so happy right now

dense elbow
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There we go!

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Another lad joins the Funky happy train!

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Chuu Chuu, to the next patch!

fiery edge
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slayer slaying

dense elbow
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clappa clappa

echo rapids
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Slayer fury has to rip shit damage RBs too much

dense elbow
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With BT no longer proccing reap, the 5% dam loss doing RB, is so much smaller

echo rapids
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Thats fsir

dense elbow
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See, improvments, all around

fiery edge
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fuck reap proc on bt

dense elbow
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Fuck reap - tho, reap on SD, I will allow it

echo rapids
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I thought i preferred having both hero specs being more similar but now i realize the limitations

fiery edge
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imagine balancing warrior gladge

dense elbow
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A tiny +20% execute buff, and we ok on ST no?

echo rapids
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S3 slayer would be pretty nice this raid tier

fiery edge
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oh the missery

coarse solar
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so we on slayer or mt?

echo rapids
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We even got lucky and theres minimal damage amp phases

covert coyote
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what if it was the S3 effect but procced from ramp instead of rb. think it's a dub

dense elbow
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porb mt, if you dont play for fun

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if you play for fun, slayer

tawny sonnet
fiery edge
echo rapids
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Bladestorm, RB RB ramp
And the aoe is done

coarse solar
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i just wanna play whatever give me big dam

fiery edge
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proll still mt keks

dense elbow
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done

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bye

echo rapids
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Both will be in the basement on boss damage

fiery edge
#

wait nvm, play devourer

tawny sonnet
#

Eww

coarse solar
#

devourer is mad whack

#

im gearing the dk

fiery edge
#

it's "eeewww" but you cant deny its dps keks

tawny sonnet
#

Yea but what about your principles homes

fiery edge
#

im just dooming atp

coarse solar
#

yeah i wish fury was on top

dense elbow
#

When you talk about "I need to play for most dam", then you have no principles left

fiery edge
#

da hell are even principles

tawny sonnet
#

I have to be honest. I was too dumb to play arms in War Within. Switched to fury this expac and im topping dps

echo rapids
#

Errr on the bottom yeah

echo rapids
tawny sonnet
#

Never clicked i guess

echo rapids
#

I dislike the rage management aspect of arms

fiery edge
#

i forgot how arms was in bfa monkahmm

tawny sonnet
#

On that. Do you guys actually wait until rage gets to 100 before hitting rampage ?

coarse solar
#

we fury gang

echo rapids
tawny sonnet
#

I never understood that ? You are better off hitting bt or rb in that scenario. While you have ramoage ready to go ? ?

deft palm
#

Is puzzle box good for mythic chimaerus

echo rapids
#

The tldr is that delaying a rampage for a global won’t change how many rampages you cast

#

But it will get the cooldown going on bloodthirst faster

#

Ramp BT vs BT ramp is the same

fiery edge
echo rapids
#

Except one gets to cast its next BT sooner

tawny sonnet
#

Oh I see. I get it now. Its more efficient.

echo rapids
#

Think of ramp as your trump card in your pocket

#

If you arnt going to cap on rage or runout of enrage

#

Better to cast something else

deft palm
tawny sonnet
#

Thanks sard

deft palm
#

Puzzle box might be good for burst on adds but thats it

echo rapids
#

Yep

fiery edge
#

if only it was solarflare sadge

pulsar quest
fiery edge
#

but puzzle ig

deft palm
#

Kroluks sucks that bad huh

cold sparrow
#

Hey what could be a second good crafted item ? I already have my bracers and dual weapon in myth track

#

Thought the cloak could be good

coarse solar
#

i hate puzzle box id rather have 2 passives ngl

shrewd dew
#

guys quick question for mythic chimaerus

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lets say im group 2 and phase adds from group 1 were just killed, do I insta go on adds or am i greiving madness people?

orchid oyster
#

You usually wait until the madness rescues are done

#

And charging on right after might clip people on the other side

tawny sonnet
frigid temple
#

GUYS HURRY

#

WHAT BUFF IN ALGETHAR IM IN A 18

unborn dome
#

mastery

fiery edge
#

mastery ig lmao

frigid temple
#

Thanks

fiery edge
#

well more dmg, but you're still mid keks

tawny sonnet
#

Upper mid

waxen vigil
#

You pinged me at 4 am bruh

unkempt dagger
#

I just pray to lord n jesus they dont make it so sudden death doesnt proc reap the storm

#

This is my daily prayage message, see ya tomorrow ❤️

shrewd dew
unkempt dagger
#

U see in middle, like a player that is floating in air

#

And puddlelike animation

#

If its not there, they have been rescued

#

Have u ever had madness in the underworld?

shrewd dew
#

Aight thx bros 🙏🏻

#

Nope

unkempt dagger
shrewd dew
#

Yep

unkempt dagger
#

When u get madness after i think 5 seconds, u get i think dazed, cant do anything , and u float in air, and u dont want upstairs people to walk on downstairs, so u try to put it in middle as safe spot

#

Just be sure ur running berk shout as warrior and use wrecking throw on colossus(when ur in underworld) and ur gonna do good!

cold sparrow
#

Hey

  • Main hand : 289 ilvl - berserk rage
  • Off hand : 285 ilvl (craft) - arcan mastery
    => Good set up ?
unkempt dagger
#

Also, every top log is going mountain thane, i think thats wrong and u should go full st slayer

unkempt dagger
#

It doesnt matter how u put it tho

sullen tendon
#

what is score for the 1% mount

shrewd dew
#

Aight bet ima keep it mind thx coach

shrewd dew
unkempt dagger
#

Sorry for the rant, ive tried to pug it entire day yesterday so u learn how to squeeze a lil bit of juice 😂

sullen tendon
shrewd dew
shrewd dew
sullen tendon
#

thats not the same one

unkempt dagger
#

Its a super easy fight, just pls for the love of god use enraged regen instead of 10% damage shit

sullen tendon
#

3.4k is for hte saddle that you can buy the older seasonal mounts

unkempt dagger
#

It helps the healers so much

shrewd dew
unkempt dagger
#

Haha, gl bro, ur gonna do great

shrewd dew
#

Thx king ❤️

unkempt dagger
#

❤️

next canopy
stuck falcon
next canopy
#

Is midnight way better than War Within or same shit?

unkempt dagger
#

In s3 tww 1% was i think like 3550 score or some shit like that

#

I reckon 3.6-3.7 k this time around

sullen tendon
#

unless this is correclating logs with 95 parses and above and averagin their score

unkempt dagger
#

I think it will be median, not class specific, might be hella wrong

stuck falcon
solemn ore
#

Are the fury changes coming in this next patch big?? I feel like slayer is going to be the way again

undone flower
sullen tendon
#

so you probably need all 18s + a 19 or 2

#

right now atleast

undone flower
#

Set it to EU if you are EU

sullen tendon
#

imfinishing up my 17s right now

#

i dont live in that hell hole thank god

undone flower
cold sparrow
unkempt dagger
#

Yeye highest ilvl on main hand ye

cold sparrow
#

and what stat do you should I apply ? Bis stat or stat on bis item from wowhead ?

median marsh
#

in mythic salhadr fight - i should focus the orbs or the king himself and just cleave?

frozen scarab
#

orbs

#

or wtv ur raid leader says

smoky vale
waxen vigil
#

Any disease extension mechanic can cause your plagues to turn off or skip ticks

#

Which can be a massive dps loss

primal goblet
#

What is the optimal mastery % before putting everything in haste?

smoky vale
#

there is no optimal point

#

you should sim yourself and see what gear performs best for you

primal goblet
#

Alright, cheers

radiant plank
#

10/40/40/10

waxen vigil
#

Follow up, if I have a lot of crit should I just play arms

modest condor
#

you need a lot of crit as furry warriors because fursuits are soft so you dont hit as hard without critting

warm crag
dapper goblet
#

You’re welcome

summer quail
smoky vale
unborn condor
#

Hey Boys and Girls. Since we can Upgrade our Weapons on Wednesday, which one will you push? When u have 289Main and 285 crafted Offhand

#

For sure the Crafted one, right?

thorny zenith
#

How bad is the 0.5 patch for us

ancient olive
#

does shockwave work on lura interrupt ads

somber elk
spare steppe
#

I’d assume non crafted one cause higher lvl is more damage

drowsy heron
#

wait, Umbral champion is different from the season title?

#

i might actually shoot for it, seems reasonable to do

unborn condor
smoky vale
#

you should do crafted to save crests no?

#

and then upgrade the other weapon

junior gale
unborn condor
somber elk
gaunt loom
#

i suddenly got curious what race the one in this icon is

#

why so angry

gentle badge
#

anyone craft the necklace thalassian torque or whatever its called? my sims say its the best crafted item for me in ST and AOE, i have 289/276 weapons (276 is the big haste 2h from march)

compact knot
dense elbow
tepid beacon
#

just wanted to sim these compared to my current gauntlets, if these were at max level....but sim is recommending my current gauntlets with vers instead, isn't it better to go for crit over vers?

image.png
median cypress
#

Is there a post somewhere with more context to the .5 changes? Like what does it mean for arms v fury, warrior v other dps, etc?

gaunt loom
#

nanobanana made him happy

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tepid beacon
dense elbow
somber elk
rare garnet
gaunt loom
signal frost
#

just made fury as new alt so sorry if stupid question. Is thane still performing better atm? Sims higher on both st and aoe for me but im seeing more and more people playing slayer

#

Slayer like 11% lower on dungeon route for me. Within half a % on st

#

Wait sorry, slayer 2.6% more on st

digital mauve
#

Is the neck worth crafting it? Or should I save my spark ? ( I've crafted the weapon + bracers)

tulip anchor
#

is berserker shout group or raid wide? i know it says group on the tooltip, but you never know

toxic jewel
#

as thane, is it worth sending sudden death procs over bloodthirst or whatever

toxic jewel
tulip anchor
#

aight

vocal igloo
#

it's group wide, aka it doesnt work in raids

tulip anchor
#

ST: bloodbath > execute > bloodthirst
AOE: bb/bt > execute

undone flower
tulip anchor
digital mauve
undone flower
#

It’s not 276 so it’s not fully upgraded, how many crests do you have left ?

#

You can do 8 BGs against bots to get the best heroic neck ever

#

I have 150 crests remaining I’m gonna keep those for next week to see what I get with that voidforge thingy

gentle badge
#

is there a way to sim embellishments? i feel like im missing the opton somewhere, i sim'd droptimizer crafted items and i dont see an option to click on any embellishments

warm crag
ancient spear
#

Why is warrior ST so bad bro 🙁

gentle badge
supple glen
#

dw 12.0.5. will add hide and seek so warriors have something to do on the bench

rare garnet
tiny seal
#

is it buff time yet guys?

modest condor
#

aoe buff on the spec you dont play on aoe, best i can do

supple glen
#

if you look at general amount of fury players across all difficulties they really are not in a bad spot. 7-8th most played class still. i think that influences balancing, theres no need to touch em

sullen dove
supple glen
#

they dont care about dmg, if the players get taken to raids and content its fine

compact knot
#

you get taken to the bosses that dont matter sure

supple glen
#

that affects a few guilds and idiot pugs

sullen dove
#

affects quite a lot of guilds

#

and regardless thats like an insane metric to justify being literally the worst dps class in raid

#

almost bar none

#

"a lot of people play it"

#

wow good for them

#

probably a quarter of the people play windwalker than play fury but ww is good and strong hmm

#

dont need to tune that

#

or it needs to be tuned cuz not enough ppl are playing it

#

unfortunate

#

like its not wrong just how bad dps warr is doesnt affect a majority of the playerbase to any significant degree

#

but even still its just pathetic what they've been doing with us this xpac so far

#

"we hear you guys are having troubles with single target dont worry we will address these changes"

#

nerf single target fury

supple glen
#

sorry to tell you but as long as there is a shitton of player playing it on most bosses, its giong to be fine from their point of view

sullen dove
#

yea i mean the number of players means nothing

#

ever

compact knot
#

the first 5 bosses lmao

#

its fine on the first 5

sullen dove
#

absolutely not what they're looking at or paying attention to

compact knot
#

then you zone into crown and are bottom dps because the spec is brutal on that fight

sullen dove
#

or maybe it is and thats why they are so blind but it historically hasn't been and should not be

#

ret's been like top 5 player count in raid for i feel like 10 years and only in dragonflight did they receive an iota of attention and have since then been pretty solid most tiers in raid

#

but before that "oh 100k people play ret but it bottomfrags dps eh they'll be alright"

#

and just constant complains from them too

#

they were bad for like 1 week in manaforge and babyrage shut down the server 😭

#

not that that did anything to get them buffed was def already planned

#

just cant fathom why there are 0 plans for us

radiant plank
sullen dove
#

could see it

#

sudden death reaps pulled unintended mobs in world content so we have to remove that 😢

supple glen
# sullen dove absolutely not what they're looking at or paying attention to

obviously playerbase isnt everything but single employees have given clues over the years and stuff like this defo affects priorities. tzirene stated once, that hunteras too easy to play in their eyes so it wont be good. they acknowledged that people have weird connections to their spec i.e. forst and firemage so they try to make everything be viable here and there etc. now why warrior never gets any love, who knows. sod has given the impression they hate warriors with all their heart but different dev team

sullen dove
#

like season of discovery?

#

or sanctum of dom

#

thought sodiscovery warr turned out decent towards the end

supple glen
#

sesson sry

sullen dove
#

rly good tierset and raid and was like a top 1-3 dps but yea idk

#

think bit harder to compare classic classes to retail but yea sod did way better at making more things viable

supple glen
#

you had o wait for the very last patch, get full bis with a set bonus that was changed after community outcry, had to get legy, gz you are top dps games over

#

no what i am say is, the warrior bias there was absolutely real

sullen dove
#

in regular classic theres literally like 3 dps specs worth anything and the rest are utility or tanks and healers but sod having multiple specs per class was rly nice i felt like

#

yea maybe think they just didnt innovate as much since warrior was already like "good" in regular classic

supple glen
#

but different background bc it was meant to be vanilla revamp where everyboody played warr

sullen dove
#

think they had to do more work to make other classes that were complete shit better

supple glen
#

guess what class was insane instead.. ret

cloud jungle
#

Anyone knows how u position defensive stance reminder and remove text?

supple glen
#

so i get your frustration after coming to retail now and its the same KEKW

compact knot
supple glen
#

clearly making the spec dogshit

sullen dove
#

played hunter in sod that shit was so fire

compact knot
#

the lego made a spec that was already pretty high on cleave fights do 2x dps then everyone else on cleave

ornate venture
#

Is slayer go to in 12.0.5?

sullen dove
#

melee hunter being rly good first few phases then transitioning into firing squad killshot spam in naxx/se was flame

supple glen
#

anyway, i dont think this applies to retail

olive wraith
sullen dove
#

yea idk i think on average retail is meant to be a lot "fairer" with class balance

#

with like 40 specs they have a harder task to make everyone feel like theyre seen and some classes will obviously be better than others

ornate venture
#

Mt is still Nerfed or is something buffed?

olive wraith
#

Thane is unchanged

#

No nerf

sullen dove
#

but most of the time they design bosses to be fair to most classes or if you do less dps you bring important utility

supple glen
#

just lack of creativity with a very basic ressource system and the fact that its far from a dead class.

sullen dove
#

but warrs raid utility is almost zero and we just do absolutely no damage

ornate venture
#

Stormsurge?

sullen dove
#

no

supple glen
#

now you could ask why they dont make the class a lot of people enjoy playing for fun in their video game good, but thats another story

olive wraith
ornate venture
#

From +50 % Clap to +10?

sullen dove
#

again no

#

read the updates channel

ornate venture
#

Okay good

olive wraith
#

Let me repeat for a third time keks

obtuse estuary
#

hey yall, is thane going up or down with the new patch?

olive wraith
#

Oh my

#

Scroll up

obtuse estuary
#

the hack and slash tho

#

makes no change at all?

olive wraith
#

No?

#

We don’t run out of rb charges

supple glen
#

the patience is impressive

fiery hare
#

the amount opf times i had nothing to use xcept throw was hilarious

supple glen
#

not having any pins blessing and a curse

olive wraith
fiery hare
#

ye

#

literally everything on cd and no rage to ramp 😄

olive wraith
#

That doesn’t sound right

supple glen
#

it shouldnt be like that

fiery hare
#

its rare but happens atleast once per dungeon on a boss or smth

supple glen
#

but outside of dummy practice, when dodging stuff while trying to ABC it happens 😔

next canopy
#

How is midnight ?

fiery hare
#

dark

next canopy
#

Keep talking dirty to me

pallid brook
#

Its midnight in a few mins

#

Ill tell you whats up

fiery hare
#

in finland?

trim lava
#

is there a nerf upcoming

pallid brook
#

Yete

next canopy
#

Nerf rolls in at midnight

pallid brook
#

Next week were guna be 290 and happy with alot of damage

next canopy
#

I am a Top 1% warrior. Have some respect to your elders.

pallid brook
#

Top1 at bitchin

next canopy
#

You were in diapers when BoD came out

copper knoll
#

Fact

pallid brook
#

I actually wasnt

#

Im old now

copper knoll
#

Sorry just jumped in, who's upset now

pallid brook
#

I just fell asleep 3 times in a dungeon because it was an hour past my bed time

next canopy
#

Just talking warrior talk

pallid brook
#

Im at that stage in life

copper knoll
#

Go sleep

pallid brook
#

Im in bed now is aite

next canopy
pallid brook
#

Somehow i only died when i was awake

#

At the end of it

next canopy
#

That’s my level too except I can’t even play rn

dense elbow
next canopy
copper knoll
#

Arms vs Fury dungeons, always feels im needing more for arms...

#

Discuss

pallid brook
#

Arms is more fun

#

But fury is like that stable gf

dense elbow
#

Fury is a lot more fun

pallid brook
#

Arms is the goth chick

inland flame
#

Arms does crazy cleave dam and Slarms is respectible boss dam

copper knoll
#

Hahah

pallid brook
#

Enjoys pain n allat

inland flame
#

I'm just vibin as Slarms all the time rn, I'm not a pusher tho

worn rain
#

arms is walking

#

fury is running

copper knoll
#

Hitting that 'cleave'

fiery hare
#

they should merge slayer and colossus and have bladestorm do demolish and call it a day

dense elbow
worn rain
pallid brook
#

Exactly what i said

copper knoll
#

Wankstrom

pallid brook
#

But we all want the goth ihop

#

Employee

#

Init

next canopy
#

Arms was classy back in the day

worn rain
copper knoll
#

For me, Arms 1 button to many dunno why

worn rain
pallid brook
#

Nah not a lot to it

worn rain
#

corruption arms is bueno

pallid brook
#

Bfa when i got that ting that goes in a line early in the parch

#

Was peak

#

Twilight devestation i think

worn rain
#

100% haste later into expansion

#

juicy ToMs

#

speedy gameplay

pallid brook
#

I went to that 3 layer dungeon and pulled all 3 floors together

inland flame
#

Cata Arms where you had to sit in Berserker Stance and had to dance to Battle just to spend OP procs

pallid brook
#

Shadowlands arms is slept on

bitter palm
#

/cast Battle Stance
/cast Overpower

pallid brook
#

Had fun that expac

bitter palm
#

crazy

bitter palm
#

s2 s3 arms owned

#

4-Set - Pile On - Tactician has a 50% increased chance to proc against enemies with Colossus Smash and causes your next Overpower to grant 2% Strength, up to 8% for 15 sec.

pallid brook
#

I legit played that expac

#

Just because arms was fun

#

Fury too

next canopy
next canopy
next canopy
lunar urchin
#

Did Fury lose Ignore Pain in Midnight? I can't seem to find it anywhere anymore.

final sonnet
#

yupp, gone

lunar urchin
#

Oh no :( thanks for the answer though

pallid brook
#

Untill they buff warris and everyone here is happy which is very very soon

frigid temple
#

I dont wanna play arms on vanguard

#

why does blizz hate fury

heavy ether
#

Too good in classic m8, they're still butt hurt about it

final sonnet
frigid temple
#

D:

inland flame
#

3tar is just Arms giga niche right now is what it is

frigid temple
#

Im just gonna one button that bitch ig

inland flame
#

That's prolly suboptimal lol, Arms isn't that hard to learn, surely

frigid temple
#

ur right king im being a bitch

inland flame
#

I mean it is completely different from Fury so If you've never really touched it it'll feel very different

#

But it defo gets results in the right scenarios rn

frigid temple
#

I played it in undermine but skipped last tier

#

i remember it being p easy

clever stone
#

anyone know if they got rid of buff stacking before keys? seems like they fall off now

sullen dove
#

probably

final sonnet
#

do you know if the ring pair [Omission of Light] + [Occlusion of Void] is any good? or a good trinket worth more?

clever stone
#

effect did .4% of my dmg last key

woven atlas
#

Do you guys can keep up in high keys with Like a ret? Playing with one (CE-Raider), always 15-20% behind in 17+. Was shocked to see noxiv can beat his ret in his group sometimes. Do i have just to get good?

signal falcon
worn yoke
#

Fury ain't no slouch in keys and can pump in a phys comp, even though arms is ahead, and ret is ahead, and demo is ahead, and unholy is ahead (again), and assassination is ahead, and feral is ahead, and BM affliction havoc shadow elemental outlaw marksmanship subtlety survival arcane enhancement are ahead (:

sullen dove
#

truer

worn yoke
#

we're mid to low pack in M+ and lowest ST available. Right where blizzard wants us (again)

#

but on we pump

honest trail
#

Is there any sims up for 0.5 changes?

smoky vale
#

they been out

#

slayer down st

sullen dove
#

prolly next day or 2 should be some like % changes in updates

honest trail
smoky vale
#

you can sim your character on mimiron and get the %s now

#

or do uh

worn yoke
#

slayer down ST is wild decision making by blizztard. the QOL changes to slayer are actually good and nice but the rest is questionable at best

smoky vale
#

ptr=1

sullen dove
#

gio try not to yap challenge

honest trail
#

I don't know what's Mimiron 😮

tardy lark
smoky vale
honest trail
#

Thanks a lot

smoky vale
#

do a quick sim there and on live

tardy lark
#

its just the ptr version of raidbots

honest trail
#

Yeah nice, thanks

smoky vale
#

and then do (new - old)/ old?

honest trail
#

Didn't know

smoky vale
#

is that % change

#

any math knowers

honest trail
#

Will do that

tardy lark
#

arms almost 100k ST xdd

worn yoke
sullen dove
#

yes but you see we bring a raid buff and warlocks dont

#

so we are more important than warlocks

smoky vale
#

cluegi

sullen dove
#

truth supernova

tardy lark
smoky vale
#

hey did you know warriors can do warlock skips too

worn yoke
#

give warlocks and DKs a raid buff and stop making fights require 2-3 DKs and 1-2 Warlocks by design 🤯 💡

honest trail
next canopy
uneven path
honest trail
#

Yes

#

ST Slayer

tardy lark
unkempt oasis
#

Look at the bright side

honest trail
unkempt oasis
#

wait... I got nothing

uneven path
#

Ofc, our ST is so broken we needed another small nerf

tardy lark
uneven path
tardy lark
honest trail
#

AOE buffs youhou

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worn yoke
# honest trail Pain

yeah but you can cleave the adds SLIHGTLY more easily now on boss fights where (hopefully) WCL is about to filter the fuck out of add damage so be thankful like the rest of this discord and take it on the chin

uneven path
echo rapids
honest trail
worn yoke
uneven path
honest trail
#

The Reap don't apper t

honest trail
uneven path
uneven path
honest trail
worn yoke
honest trail
#

I know that

#

Just wondered where they appeared in the Breakdown, found em

#

Now Slayer vs Thane aoe

#

8 targets 1min

uneven path
#

Lets see

worn yoke
#

cant see slayer being near MT on 8 targets

#

maybe 5

uneven path
#

i am considering playing slury with ruin

#

A lot of dungeons have 6+ pulls

honest trail
#

Slayer is so dead

uneven path
echo rapids
honest trail
#

I even believe ST Thane is just even

#

So Slayer should not be played

worn yoke
#

guys dont you realise we got a season of Slayer fury (TWW S3) and we cant be having TOO much fun ok

uneven path
honest trail
#

RR Slayer might be ahead

#

But it's very bad overall

uneven path
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2 or 3 target you will suffer as fuck

honest trail
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It's not even winning with RR

uneven path
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wtf

honest trail
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At 8 targets

worn yoke
echo rapids
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If you want to do big aoe on big packs arms fury is better

uneven path
honest trail
worn yoke
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whats the ST diff between a slayer cleave build and a MT cleave build (aka what you'd playin most raid encounters)

honest trail
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But I can't do dmg with that shit

echo rapids
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It’s ironic that we went from good ST but struggling to dk enough aoe to plenty of aoe and basement ST

uneven path
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I think after .5 its only Colossus arms angle right ?

echo rapids
honest trail
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7min ST Thane vs Slayer

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Who wins

uneven path
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same ?

honest trail
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1k diff

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For Slayer

uneven path
echo rapids
honest trail
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Oh well, this season is fucked for Slayer, I'll just have to accept it

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Not enjoying myself that much so far

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It is what it is

uneven path
honest trail
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Just sad it is the 1st season i have decided to push myself to raid at quit a higher level than before

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Lots of stress sadge

rare garnet
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best thing about thane is i dont have to bind rend and i can take rb off my bars and not lose much, we're gaming

honest trail
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You pressing WW instead?

rare garnet
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i grab a coffee

honest trail
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As filler

rare garnet
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read a book

honest trail
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xd

rare garnet
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use a stun

honest trail
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I mean WW is above RB at 3+ targets

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So most situations

modest condor
rare garnet
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i love when dps healers let the people bleed out because they need to do another lightning bolt, very important damage contribution in healers...

uneven path
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Ther is now way there wont be more tuning on Monday right clueless

honest trail
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How would you buff Fury atm?

rare garnet
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why would there be tuning, class is preforming within design goals

rare garnet
honest trail
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But that's boring tho

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In terms of gameplay

rare garnet
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dont care about borning, easy way to get ST gains and not impact AOE or need to adjust anything within the class. good to give feedback blizzard can actually action. its easy. reaches goals, no fuss.

honest trail
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Some buffs on RB would impact AOE very little imo

uneven path
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Or

rare garnet
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but then i might have to bind RB, and i dont wanna do that

uneven path
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I know its crazy

worn yoke
uneven path
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Buff slayer strikes

worn yoke
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and lightning strikes to actually do meaningful damage on ST for thane

rare garnet
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there we go, every time you clap your primary target is hit by a bolt of lightning from odin

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make big animation

frozen scarab
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is it actually better to not use rb lmao

tardy lark
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right now its better to press rend instead of rb

frozen scarab
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wtf

tardy lark
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balance is in the gutter and the people in charge of whatever warrior is, has no clue

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but that goes for a lot of other specs as well so we at least arent alone xdd

echo rapids