#fury
hot shell
terse ether
Ah its now?
spare flame
the bonus rolls are fire
fringe vale
A list that makes people half read it, then ho to class cords and complain about the thing they didn’t read.
hot shell
Its guaranteed loot
terse ether
Its guaranteed loot
Fake news
terse ether
Im jkg i have no idea haha
spare flame
let's hope that our bis trinkets arent from raid in season 2 Prayge
vestal root
you know they will be
fringe vale
Wow is both the first and the ultimate online slot machine
olive wraith
Ultimate? Doubt
hot shell
Hell no
olive wraith
Have you see Korean gacha games
fringe vale
Have you see Korean gacha games
Yuck
vestal root
next season yummy
hot shell
Im gonna roll all my stones in pit for the first 3 weeks. Probably.
spare flame
what for
terse ether
I'm not sure how the new voidforge will work, guess we will find out soon
spare flame
im rolling my shit on chimaerus and vorasius fo sho
fringe vale
I'm not sure how the new voidforge will work, guess we will find out soon
It will let u upgrade items beyond the max ilvl
hot shell
Its 2 vs 1 loot per week
fringe vale
Think about making an item warforged
vestal root
this trinket i wonder if it will do good enough dmg on higher levels, reminds me of that trinket from court of stars kinda just pop it for big aoe
untold yacht
@edgy widget just wanted to say thank you for being an absolute goat and always having us warriors up to date!
coarse gust
Hi, i got kicked from a group doing Vorasius and they said my build is "troll". I am new to warri and hoping someone can tell me why
unkempt oasis
On what difficulty?
graceful mural
It is
unkempt oasis
Slayer is better for ST
graceful mural
That’s a Slayer fight
unkempt oasis
^
worn rain
tbh checking people on heroic vora is kinda cringe
graceful mural
Yeah what’s Javelineer doing for you
coarse gust
i mean, my damage was kinda ass
unkempt oasis
It isn't M+ cause you don't have shockwave
graceful mural
tbh checking people on heroic vora is kinda cringe
Yeah legit insane
mossy pelican
Slayer in this economy?
fossil orbit
Do Slayer lose abit ST dmg with the new changes coming?
random shadow
Yes
unkempt oasis
His build, not slayer lmao
olive wraith
Do Slayer lose abit ST dmg with the new changes coming?
Maybe a little
random shadow
I think that is what I use for bosses 4-6 in crown yeah
Was talking about this
unkempt oasis
I go thane on those
astral ice
His build, not slayer lmao
yes because we are 2 strong ST
random shadow
I did thane first 2 or 3 weeks then decided finally time to try arms on it
unkempt oasis
I don't vibe with arms
mighty bloom
arms is so weird
random shadow
Lightblinded is just an arms fight
mossy pelican
Delete demolish
random shadow
Plays. Feels and just does better
Espically if tank are good
But that part is hatd
unkempt oasis
Feels is subjective, and I would rather subjectively not play arms
random shadow
Ofc. Most stuff is subjective
slate light
wait are we gonna better then arms now in m+
olive wraith
wait are we gonna better then arms now in m+
lol no
random shadow
Damage wise feels a lot better on arms imo for a 2 to 3 target cleave
coarse gust
although, "Improved Whirlwind" would kinda suggest an AoE heavy build or not?
random shadow
Eh not really
Fury has the luxury to take it for adds or cleave even in st. Unless its pure ST which isnt really this tier
unkempt oasis
Which is probably a blessing considering our ST
spare flame
wait are we gonna better then arms now in m+
random shadow
It is what it is. As long i can get mythic gaze and heart im pretty much done with raiding besides with the guild
coarse gust
Would that build be any good for Sally?
unkempt oasis
I haven't looked at anyone elses logs for it, so take this with a grain of salt. But I go more of a ST build with cleave there too.
turbid fable
It's a fine thane fight, most of the top parses on both heroic and mythic vorasius are thane
unkempt oasis
Basically pad more
spark plover
so mathnerd warriors, are we going fury or arms next week in raid?
random shadow
so mathnerd warriors, are we going fury or arms next week in raid?
Considering my guild is gonna start progging dremarrift mythic probably fury
edgy widget
Someone also said that this build is shit for ST
shit is overselling it by a pretty high degree - the diff between Slayer and Thane ST is barely a couple %
random shadow
shit is overselling it by a pretty high degree - the diff between Slayer and Tha...
Hi archi how are you
gilded belfry
So next week slayer has better aoe?
edgy widget
the diff between Slayer and Thane ST in their respective multitarget builds is like <1%
random shadow
Archi I have questions
edgy widget
Hi archi how are you
overworked
quiet geyser
The shit part was simply playing fury warrior 😅
edgy widget
then don't, Arms does fine on that fight; arguably better in some ways
teal slate
shit is overselling it by a pretty high degree - the diff between Slayer and Tha...
I agree, I find I'm doing better st as thane than Slayer right now
random shadow
For thane in raid say dreamrift or lura. I do my opener and all that crap. When I have stack of tb and the BB procs to the 3 and im also nearing rage cap. Is it worth it to sometimes either tage cap or ignore the tb stack to spam BB/ramp?
The only part of thane in raid im not liking and I've looked over rotation on wowhead and it just doesnt feel good imo
spare steppe
overworked
We appreciate everything you do
quiet geyser
For thane in raid say dreamrift or lura. I do my opener and all that crap. When ...
Biggest thing is to just make sure you never have 2 stacks of TB. Doing so, and pressing another BT, could potentially have you overlap TBs a.k.a. not extending avatar as much as possible
smoky vale
thats just gonna happen playing thane
edgy widget
For thane in raid say dreamrift or lura. I do my opener and all that crap. When ...
Follow your priority - if you're playing correctly, it should be pretty unlikely to have all of those things happening at the same time
- in this case, Rampage if you're about to rage cap, spend a TB to prevent overcapping, put BB on cooldown, and then either TB or Rampage again depending on your rage
random shadow
Follow your priority - if you're playing correctly, it should be pretty unlikely...
Aye ye captain ty. Hope your overworking ends and you can enjoy a relaxing time
edgy widget
good joke
random shadow
Sometimes jokes are good
For the mental
Maybe its time i play more arms. Aren't you arming in raid mr archi
fast crest
Delusional thought but imagine they gave rampage the ability to fire your TB or BB procs during reck
quiet geyser
You ever have that sensation when you proc burst of power, BB spam, hit a TB, and proc another burst of power, proc another tb, use it, INTO ANOTHER burst of power????
random shadow
You ever have that sensation when you proc burst of power, BB spam, hit a TB, an...
The feeling when you dump all rage get a tb proc. Then get BB procs so you use all 3 then rampage then TB proc and repeat
3 times in a roll then get low ball rng after for the next 2 mins 
quiet geyser
3 burst of power procs in a row is rare, but when it happens...
zinc python
So seems like with the thunderclap change thane is getting nerfed into the ground? Or am I missing something?
drowsy heron
thane isnt getting changes, it got reverted
olive wraith
What makes you think it got st buffs
lilac osprey
its already competative in ST theres just no ST right now
random shadow
Will slayer be competitive in ST again?
Ofc not
zinc python
20% increase in bladestorm dmg is nice
random shadow
its already competative in ST theres just no ST right now
Thane is only slightly behind slayer in ST
olive wraith
20% increase in bladestorm dmg is nice
Losing some reap damage
real wedge
But notes ONLY reverted prot thane Are we sure the Nerf is def not happening not tryin to discredit archi but notes say different story
random shadow
Sounds like you're discrediting archi
olive wraith
But notes ONLY reverted prot thane Are we sure the Nerf is def not happening not...
Ptr is reverted
lilac osprey
Thane is only slightly behind slayer in ST
yes which would make slayer competative in ST
olive wraith
We’ll find out next week
random shadow
Our warrior lord and savior
undone flower
But notes ONLY reverted prot thane Are we sure the Nerf is def not happening not...
You are allowed to install ptr
olive wraith
S3 tier change wasn’t announced either
olive wraith
There was never a post about it iirc
olive wraith
i actually liked amirdrasil tier to
I meant tww/ but I agree
rigid stirrup
yeah ik what you meant
real wedge
Okay so it Is not possible they Changed IT on ptr by Mistake for fury
Just like they forgot to delete row in patch notes
I just dunno if i can trust Blizzard with Warrior 
west apex
hi is thunder clap dmg and cd nerf going live or no?
real wedge
Ppl say no cuz reverted on ptr
olive wraith
Okay so it Is not possible they Changed IT on ptr by Mistake for fury
Just like...
Apparently thane doesn’t have diff spell id
west apex
thank you
real wedge
Aight
magic prairie
Cant waiy for slayer to be viable again in m+
indigo arch
thane still gaps it
olive wraith
Not again
indigo arch
Yes again
olive wraith
ViAbLe
tight dock
probably does, let's be honest
indigo arch
I like how I randomly look and ppl are still asking about the thane notes
olive wraith
If you wanna play slayer play slayer
tacit harbor
depends on that TB loss though as well because that was a ton of dmg in + with packs
olive wraith
Cant waiy for slayer to be viable again in m+
indigo arch
S3 fury was the most fun fury had been in a while
olive wraith
depends on that TB loss though as well because that was a ton of dmg in + with p...
Disagree
tacit harbor
Why is bro acting like I said slayer was bad
hashtag bring back legion slayer
indigo arch
Ah, thought that was at me
digital mauve
so thane fury nerf or no thanze fury nerf
indigo arch
Yea idk when slayer magically became unviable
olive wraith
so thane fury nerf or no thanze fury nerf
indigo arch
Tell the people doing 20s that slayer isn't viable
hot shell
Who did 20 as fury slayer
indigo arch
hashtag bring back legion slayer
I'd love that too
tight dock
Yea idk when slayer magically became unviable
When they made bladestorm/avatar a choice node 🙁
indigo arch
When they made bladestorm/avatar a choice node 🙁
Shit was stupid
olive wraith
When they made bladestorm/avatar a choice node 🙁
For post season?
When nothing mattered
tacit harbor
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no they brought it back from the release notes today. Dont think it was an old note and that is ALOT od dmg you're losing in CDs
olive wraith
no they brought it back from the release notes today. Dont think it was an old n...
Trust Archi or don’t
summer quail
no they brought it back from the release notes today. Dont think it was an old n...
fake notes
olive wraith
It’s reverted on ptr
indigo arch
I'm gonna go ahead and say trust archi lmao
spare steppe
I trust archi
honest trail
No 20's as Slayer but almost all keys have been done at +19
indigo arch
Blizz releases fucked up notes all the time
tacit harbor
Trust Archi or don’t
I mean until Blizzard actually changes the notes it's what we have to go on on what they are pushing out
spare steppe
Wtb RB buffs
olive wraith
I mean until Blizzard actually changes the notes it's what we have to go on on w...
Then doom a week. Or don’t
honest trail
Coulda swore noxiv did a 20
Noxiv plays Thane now
tacit harbor
I'd love that too
the old execute procs would be fire
honest trail
Since 18-19
tacit harbor
Then doom a week. Or don’t
I mean again not saying it won't beat slayer out but makes slayer more viable in comparison in current warrior meta
indigo arch
Noxiv plays Thane now
I know, he's logged out as it
olive wraith
I mean again not saying it won't beat slayer out but makes slayer more viable in...
What is viable
indigo arch
the old execute procs would be fire
Give elisande trinket from a timewalk nighthold raid and we good
tacit harbor
What is viable
what? I'm saying the changes make slayer more viable to play when prior the only honestly viable for most were thane
olive wraith
what? I'm saying the changes make slayer more viable to play when prior the only...
What is “viable” in your definition
tacit harbor
Give elisande trinket from a timewalk nighthold raid and we good
or even BFA pre crucible of storms Fury Slayer
olive wraith
Viable doesn’t mean better
magic prairie
what? I'm saying the changes make slayer more viable to play when prior the only...
Idk why is he so pressed when the Slayer m+ was brought in the discussion
Viable meaning can compete with meta class' damage
modest condor
that's not what viable means
magic prairie
Ornatleast not left behind
indigo arch
or even BFA pre crucible of storms Fury Slayer
Bfa s3 and esp s4 fury blasted too
tacit harbor
Idk why is he so pressed when the Slayer m+ was brought in the discussion
Viabl...
no idea either, and yes viable meaning able to compete. Slayer at the beginning of this xpac was not competing with thane for the general warrior player
indigo arch
Big cds into bote
tacit harbor
it was like a 6% difference at one point
random shadow
no idea either, and yes viable meaning able to compete. Slayer at the beginning ...
Why would it not compete for the general warrior?
random shadow
it was like a 6% difference at one point
6% in what
olive wraith
Viable doesn’t mean comparing 2 things
indigo arch
I will say I'm glad that rend is getting baked into imp ww
magic prairie
no idea either, and yes viable meaning able to compete. Slayer at the beginning ...
I just said a simple statement and here he comes
indigo arch
It felt bad manually rending
random shadow
It felt bad manually rending
I agree
indigo arch
Esp after being spoiled by thane
olive wraith
Thane being better than slayer doesn’t make slayer unviable
random shadow
Tho I dont see a time I'll bring slayer fury into keys anymore
tacit harbor
I will say I'm glad that rend is getting baked into imp ww
yeah I have been complaining about it all xpac that it made no sense to have it on tc and not ww
olive wraith
Slayer getting buffed to be closer to thane doesn’t make slayer more viable
undone flower
Viable is 1/0 binary thing
olive wraith
unkempt oasis
My tier 11 delve prog is going to be hampered by these changes
random shadow
The real viable option is to reroll off warrior tbh
undone flower
Viable option to do meta things -> prepare 3+ characters until meta shows up
tepid warren
how's 12.0.5 looking for fury?
random shadow
Viable option to do meta things -> prepare 3+ characters until meta shows up
Just gear all classed as alts then play the fotm
30 days or so in a month
olive wraith
how's 12.0.5 looking for fury?
Fine
random shadow
Ezpz
hot shell
Over 95% of people play on keylevels where specc doesnt matter anyways
We need to stop blaming speccs for depletes. Blame the player
tacit harbor
Thane being better than slayer doesn’t make slayer unviable
ok my dude noone is here to argue with you especially when getting too into the weeds with terminology.
Whenb I say viable, I mean the damage output coming from slayer vs thane much lower especially if you were not doing everything perfect in terms of uptime.
Thane was more forgiving and more dmg especially for a class that falls off come +13s or so when you see other dps make a large jump.
Now with the dmg being dropped from TB (allegedly) that is going to show a very large decrease in dps specifically in packs and with Slayer usually outperforming in ST to begin with it makes it much more competitive with Thane in keys
bitter palm
99% of people dont play on levels where anything matters
undone flower
Just gear all classed as alts then play the fotm
It’s less needed 3-4 char, you have a high chance one of them is meta, if mage is among those ofc
tepid solar
I'm watching a video on mythic chimaerus and it was talking about warrior aoe fear immunity, what are they talking about? What ability?
random shadow
It’s less needed 3-4 char, you have a high chance one of them is meta, if mage i...
If the options are pally. Mage. Dk or evo you're pretty fine
random shadow
I'm watching a video on mythic chimaerus and it was talking about warrior aoe fe...
Its a talent
hot shell
I'm watching a video on mythic chimaerus and it was talking about warrior aoe fe...
Berserker shout
olive wraith
ok my dude noone is here to argue with you especially when getting too into the ...
Again. Viable isn’t the right word here which can be misleading to people
random shadow
Berserker shout
bitter palm
I'm watching a video on mythic chimaerus and it was talking about warrior aoe fe...
zerk shout
tepid solar
Ohhh I never knew it was for your group
random shadow
ok my dude noone is here to argue with you especially when getting too into the ...
If anything well see more col arms players then fury
worn rain
99% of people dont play on levels where anything matters
tell that copium to warriors on bench
random shadow
Ohhh I never knew it was for your group
Id a talent
tacit harbor
Again. Viable isn’t the right word here which can be misleading to people
I mean I would argue slayer has never been viable in keys for 99% of players vs thane unless you were being carried majority of the time unless again, you have perfect rotations
tepid solar
I guess you need to know when the fear is going to go off?
olive wraith
I mean I would argue slayer has never been viable in keys for 99% of players vs ...
Yes it has
99% of keys can be completed by slayer
tacit harbor
If anything well see more col arms players then fury
which makes me sad, got no issues with arms but I feel like fury is always in this state of nerf from blizzard
indigo arch
Colo arms was already creeping up, these changes gonna be goofy
Pit of saron became new favorite dungeon
olive wraith
I mean I would argue slayer has never been viable in keys for 99% of players vs ...
Just because 1 tree is better than the other, does not make the weaker tree unviable
random shadow
which makes me sad, got no issues with arms but I feel like fury is always in th...
Shouldve seen arms in beta up to release lol
undone flower
Less favorite if tank doesn’t pull trashs on the giant
bitter palm
which makes me sad, got no issues with arms but I feel like fury is always in th...
crazy statement to make for a class where one of the dpses is genuinely always mid or bad (arms) and one is always mid or good (fury)
hot shell
Frostdk was a meme too, still is
tacit harbor
Shouldve seen arms in beta up to release lol
I mean arms for a LOOOOOONG time did wayy to much dmg
undone flower
I prefer slarms tbf
indigo arch
Even if they don't, it's just kinda an aoefest with not a lot of melee concerns
bitter palm
I mean arms for a LOOOOOONG time did wayy to much dmg
when
coral fiber
Shadowlands
bitter palm
real
worn rain
Shadowlands
🧢
tacit harbor
crazy statement to make for a class where one of the dpses is genuinely always m...
from most of legion through shadow for a while
coral fiber
Condemn
undone flower
Mop, when me young
bitter palm
from most of legion through shadow for a while
that was centuries ago atp
fury has been consistently the go to spec for all pve content apart from some bosses and sometimes in m+
undone flower
E X E C U T E was 10 years ago
coral fiber
I asked this in PVP to no answer but does anyone know if the thane nerf to thunder clap is going to affect thunder blast damage
upbeat stump
indigo arch
Raging blow in cata hit like a fucking semi truck
Rip deathwish
Now it's a little tickle
fickle stirrup
Do we Rampage > BT/BB whenever it's available during Reck in AoE?
I've been weaving them when I could without overcapping Rage but after watching Noxiv I noticed they only ever hit BT/BB when they can't Rampage in Reck.
tacit harbor
that was centuries ago atp
lol im an old man, but I will say there was like a decade of nothing but arms or that both would be about equal and fury would somehow get nerfed down with arms getting shot up
random shadow
I mean arms for a LOOOOOONG time did wayy to much dmg
When
Fury was meta last season
bitter palm
the last time arms was superior in raid when it mattered was sanctum in 9.1
tight dock
Do we Rampage > BT/BB whenever it's available during Reck in AoE?
I've been weav...
rampage as much as possible to reduce cd on reck
coral fiber
I bt during procs and save the non procced one for when I have no rampage
random shadow
Slayer tier set carried meta for majority of s3 when hot fixed
tight dock
that hotfix was chef's kiss
random shadow
I should've played warrior more when it was current smh. The one season id ecide to switch off it becomes good then the season i. Decide to come back were not that great
Sigh
olive wraith
That’s what you get for not being faithful
indigo arch
I mean at least from an m+ angle colossus is gonna fucking blast
undone flower
Slay 
indigo arch
Meta players gonna piss and shid themselves
scarlet swift
Fury Discord will be dead soon huh, we’re migrating to arms
olive wraith
Fury Discord will be dead soon huh, we’re migrating to arms
Doubt
undone flower
Huh
indigo arch
Nah, fury still wins on a lot of raid fights
undone flower
You are new here swordstance ?
worn rain
scarlet swift
You are new here swordstance ?
New? No…Do i live here like you? No
tacit harbor
would rather go prot than arms lol
indigo arch
Idk, I thought I'd hate colo more but as I started getting proper arms gear rage became easier
I still dislike it compared to fury but gotta do what I gotta do
olive wraith
We don’t talk about tww s2
undone flower
New? No…Do i live here like you? No
I was curious bc even when arms is better we just talk more about arms… here
scarlet swift
Arms would be fine if the skills were pruned, seems like a lot of redundancies
echo rapids
Arms would be fine if the skills were pruned, seems like a lot of redundancies
Prune the cooldowns
scarlet swift
There’s only 2? Sweeping and ava?
olive wraith
Those are cooldowns ?
scarlet swift
That’s a rotational skill, not a cd
hot shell
Whats a CD
undone flower
Sweeping is as rotational as OF if I follow your logic
scarlet swift
Buffs your next skills
scarlet swift
It’s a rotational skill
undone flower
Colossus smash is not a CD ?
undone flower
The central CD of arms is not a CD smh
hot shell
It’s a rotational skill
Is ravager a CD?
undone flower
And sweeping is, when it’s just like bm hunter thingy now
Just press and it has = stacks to have it again
undone flower
Is ravager a CD?
Half, it buffs cleave
olive wraith
Is enrage a cd
wicked scarab
You’ve all convinced me. Mortal Strike is a cooldown
undone flower
It buffs execute
hot shell
It is. It buffs raging blow
olive wraith
Heroic leap is a cd. Speed boost
undone flower
And reset your taunt
keen kindle
Dstance is a cd
olive wraith
Dstance is a cd
Oh shit so zerker and battle stance too
undone flower
Heroic leap* it resets taunt cd, heroic leap is CD worthy
quiet helm
Hi quick question, did the Mountain Thane nerfs actually get reverted this time? Or was it just Protection Warrior? I keep seeing different info everywhere so I’m kinda confused.
summer quail
Hi quick question, did the Mountain Thane nerfs actually get reverted this time?...
it got reverted
olive wraith
Hi quick question, did the Mountain Thane nerfs actually get reverted this time?...
Interpret how you will
quiet helm
Thanks lot!
hot shell
Is charge a CD ?
undone flower
No it does not buff smth
vast gorge
do you guys sim thane as patchwork or hectic add cleave?
hot shell
I sim thane with Patchwork 3 Targets
undone flower
Just put more targets in patchwerk
vast gorge
3 bosses?
undone flower
I do 5
hot shell
3 5 8 10 is what people commonly use
undone flower
7+ if you want the sim to do the tclap spam
hot shell
I have no regrets
Did u actually
sullen dove
undone flower
Did u actually
Fuck every form of spear of bastion
spare steppe
if I got myth bracers from the first boss, whats the next weakest crafted piece to do (besides cloak)
hot shell
Belt or hands. Tho u probably want the seat hands as fury
spare steppe
kk ill sim belts
hot shell
Did u just delete your boots text cuz i couldve sworn u just excluded boots on your own
hot shell
Belt, hands and boots all should have 8% or something.
Boots ull save enchanting money on so id go with that
spare steppe
8%?
hot shell
Generally its your weakest piece or the one with the wrong subs
hot shell
That % only applies if everything is same itemlevel, keep that in mind
Id sim boots and belt in your case
olive wraith
Is battleshout a cd ?
It’s gotta be right?
spare steppe
copy. thanks Dracz
left sage
Warcraft logs is claiming that Arms is performing better than Fury in Season 1 raiding right now. I thought Fury was the current best tuned spec?
woven valley
Warcraft logs is claiming that Arms is performing better than Fury in Season 1 r...
Fury is lowest boss damage of any class atm and the raids fights aren’t designed well for our kit other than a few fights
Arms got buffs so they got better
left sage
Fury is lowest boss damage of any class atm and the raids fights aren’t designed...
I mus only know really good Fury warriors then. the 3 I know are all top-damage in the raid
woven valley
I mus only know really good Fury warriors then. the 3 I know are all top-damage ...
Or…the other raiders are bad lol 😂
hot shell
Or…the other raiders are bad lol 😂
This
left sage
Or…the other raiders are bad lol 😂
Could be lmfao
winter shoal
I mean the latter of those is on vanguard
That fight is made to be imbalanced
I'm all for shitting on blizzard and giving fury some love, but there's no need to misrepresent the data
oblique thistle
My guide to lightbound vanguard
- swap to arms
- profit
hot shell
My guide to lightbound vanguard
1) swap to arms
2) profit
Id leave that guild if they told me what to play
winter shoal
I mean my guild didn't tell me to play arms on that fight
I chose to because it's substantially better
hot shell
Yeah but theres a difference between wanting to cause its better or being forced to cause its better, das my point
And i missread guild instead of guide so i apologize
vast gorge
sims are telling me to use haste/crit gems and crit enchants
echo rapids
sims are telling me to use haste/crit gems and crit enchants
Crit isnt that far behind haste/mastery and if you have like none of it sim is gonna prio getting more
echo rapids
Warcraft logs is claiming that Arms is performing better than Fury in Season 1 r...
We went from clowning on arms in pre season to preparing to swap to it 🙁
supple glen
its getting worse 😔
winter shoal
We went from clowning on arms in pre season to preparing to swap to it 🙁
Crazy what happens when your spec gets multiple buffs in a row
echo rapids
its getting worse 😔
Ret nods, demo nods, UDK nods, Monk tank, druid healers, yep checks out
dusk knot
anybody can help me understand i got two logs one i did really great and one i did worse. Its like 20 seconds of fights i get huge damage difference
fringe vale
sims are telling me to use haste/crit gems and crit enchants
Whats the %difference of those crit/haste gems vs haste/mast or mast/haste gens and same with haste or mast enchants?
If its irrelevant gain you will just keep spending forever swapping enchants and gems lol
tulip anchor
is the nerf real or not, bois?
echo rapids
is the nerf real or not, bois?
The nerf is not real, but we needed a buff, not a retracted nerf
winter shoal
is the nerf real or not, bois?
thane is the exact same, slayer slightly down in ST slightly up in aoe
so very little practical impact
fringe vale
The nerf is not real, but we needed a buff, not a retracted nerf
Ure asking to much, here have 100 trader tenders.
And some twitch drops pet campaign
tulip anchor
this has been reverted, then?
Mountain Thane
Storm Surge causes Avatar to increase the damage of Thunder Clap by 10% (was 50%) and reduce its cooldown by 25% (was 50%).
echo rapids
And some twitch drops pet campaign
ohhhh sorry already all claimed
supple glen
i even got that dunce cap forest outfit for free 
unkempt oasis
what is the best housing item for fury?
winter shoal
this has been reverted, then?
Mountain Thane
Storm Surge causes Avatar to ...
Correct
fringe vale
ohhhh sorry already all claimed
Lucky, i have to do the ow drops campaign and the wow one
supple glen
the wooden chair
supple glen
🪑
fringe vale
what is the best housing item for fury?
A empty dark room with a single candle in a corner, on the ground and a wooden chair in front of it.
unkempt oasis
😭
slim coral
what is the best housing item for fury?
Gorehowl
echo rapids
including paladins
Imagine if paladins wasn’t there
fringe vale
Warriors never rip
sullen dove
arms plummets yes
tight dock
me warrior, always. But rip warriors.
vast gorge
we should atleast be on par with ret paladins and dks
sullen dove
doubt it
everyone does swap maybe part of the issue is no 'good players' are playing thane on that boss so it looks worse than it might
but probably not much better
winter shoal
everyone does swap maybe part of the issue is no 'good players' are playing than...
crim not good player 
sullen dove
can just sim like a 3target between colo and thane and its still probably like a 30% diff
i mean yea probably not idk why playin fury on that boss lol
winter shoal
yeah was like 20% for me with beans arms gear
sullen dove
farm a free r1 ig
spare steppe
Imagine if paladins wasn’t there
wish you could recalculate without a boss there
slim coral
farm a free r1 ig
echo rapids
can just sim like a 3target between colo and thane and its still probably like a...
Yeah I just meant it’s still an ok fight for thane to get boss damage on
sullen dove
crim not good player <a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
supple glen
owning
sullen dove
well one of those is a weird dupe
deft palm
why am i 7/7 sparks and not 8/8
spare steppe
why am i 7/7 sparks and not 8/8
you may not have done world tour; talk to soridormi to untangle timelines and then coolest blood elf in the middle of the city for quest
dense elbow
I just wait another week 
worth
hallow sphinx
🫡
sullen dove
bitter palm
how did
gio get outpadded
he played in a pug full of ilvl 100 people doing 0 add damage
potent musk
Unrelated, but is there a quest skip for voidspire ?
slim coral
There probably is but if it’s hidden like the last skip who knows
spare steppe
https://tenor.com/view/battle-droid-roger-roger-bump-gif-2155536895475091112
sadness, boots are much bigger craft atm than belt, but will be a lot easier to get boots than belt will be (chimerus/vorasius vs dragons/crown)
smoky vale
gio get outpadded
?
hot shell
sadness, boots are much bigger craft atm than belt, but will be a lot easier to ...
And yet you might never drop the boots
Thats really a Personal decision to make. Holding it until said kill, craft belt cause of chances or just Send boots for current biggest upgrade
There is no right answer really
thorny zenith
is the priority for wrecking throw any higher on shielded targets
wicked silo
My fury warrior has 27% haste and 30% mastery on 272 ilvl, i'm doing something bad right ?
supple glen
how much crit
young swan
if thats what sims highest for you than thats what sims highest for you but i'd definitely wanna be getting some more mastery
young swan
that sounds like more issues than just poor stat spread
have you tried plugging a log into wowanalyzer?
wicked silo
Yea but I heard I should take it with a grain of salt
young swan
WoWA is pretty well maintained for warrior
wicked silo
Let me check again
young swan
grain of salt sure, but its VERY good for figuring out what you're doing wrong
wicked silo
You frequently skipped casting Bloodbath when Bloodthirst was off cooldown and Recklessness was present.
What do they mean by bloodbath when bloodthirst was off cooldown
supple glen
are you padding on the adds like everyone else
young swan
What do they mean by bloodbath when bloodthirst was off cooldown
bloodbath = bloodthirst when reck is active
wicked silo
I'm a rookie and my rotation is probably very bad
I usually just pop reck + avatar and then spam BT, rampage over 100, BT, Rampage over 100, exec on proc, etc
And it does jack shit
young swan
you can compliment the timeline tool with lorrgs to see when other people are using cd's to compare
wicked silo
My biggest issue is apparently
You frequently skipped casting Rampage when you had at least 1000 Rage Rage.
coral fiber
im still tryna figure out what homie meant by the changes on thane fury getting reverted
olive wraith
What’s confusing
coral fiber
where does anything say it got reverted
young swan
we have confirmation via spell data
it was omitted from patch notes cause its blizzard
they just forget shit
coral fiber
ah ok
young swan
You frequently skipped casting Rampage when you had at least 1000 Rage Rage.
yeah this is just 100 rage
likely means you're overcapping
which is a no-no
sullen dove
there any way to tell what stat a reck pot gives you on logs
young swan
maybe replay?
sullen dove
grr
young swan
what kinda proccies u got
sullen dove
im pretty sure i shouldve gotten crit
just not sure why i have 50% crits on ms during egg
i have 2 cancelauras macroed into my pot
for haste embell or haste weapon proc
psure only place i could get extra haste from
young swan
i can check while u pull
sullen dove
like my first egg i had 70%
sullen dove
idk i would think this should safety net it
young swan
yeah it should have
hasty hunt drops the same thousandth of a second that reck gets activated
quiet helm
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24271855
From what got posted on the 17th, doesn’t it look like Mountain Thane didn’t get reverted?
echo rapids
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24271855
From what got posted o...
Supposedly it still is
Getting reverted
hot shell
Thats the biggest mystery we have rn. Archi said its reverted and Blizzard forgot, as there is also only 1 surge spell id.
On the other hand, Blizzard posted that twice now. Sooo...
scarlet swift
Imagine having zero certainty after patch notes drop
quiet helm
Thats the biggest mystery we have rn. Archi said its reverted and Blizzard forgo...
Wt...
slim coral
nah this midnight falls fight is goated
young swan
Imagine having zero certainty after patch notes drop
there is certainty
slim coral
perma stuck p1 but so fucking good
dapper goblet
dumb
bitter palm
dapper goblet
very dumb
compact knot
nah this midnight falls fight is goated
its great
sullen dove
It’s going above Halondrus for me
lists most boring mid boss that nobody but like 10 guilds killed when it was real
dapper goblet
^
slim coral
lists most boring mid boss that nobody but like 10 guilds killed when it was rea...
Look man I don’t control tuning
dapper goblet
baze got to it when it was micky mouse club house mode
slim coral
I gotta join liquid I guess
scarlet swift
Why, even they didn’t want warrior dps
quiet helm
I just asked Archi about it, and he said the Mountain Thane nerf really was reverted, so I guess I’ll just trust him on this.
supple marten
No doubt another 500 people will still ask if it’s been reverted or not
olive wraith
We like Madox
modest condor
yippie
sullen dove
shmadshmox
sudden tusk
modest condor
hollow bison
I'm seeing conflicting info on various websites; what's Fury's best substat? Haste, or Mastery?
sullen dove
both
earnest canyon
i can check while u pull
what do you use to see who pulled as it happens
hollow bison
so about equal? Which dragon buff do you grab from Academy then?
sullen dove
for purposes of reck pot you'll likely want mastery to be a teensy bit ahead of haste stat but pmuch just sim and gear should land in the right spot for you
eh either mastery or crit probably
spare steppe
I'm seeing conflicting info on various websites; what's Fury's best substat? Has...
its whatever the sim says
sullen dove
crit not bad stat either but idk how significant which buff u pick is
but like at high gear your haste is sort of curated to be at the "just right" amount so 3% more haste prolly isnt as impactful as 3% more dmg or crit or whatever teh buffs are
young swan
what do you use to see who pulled as it happens
i dont use anything
i think bigwigs tracks it
earnest canyon
i think bigwigs tracks it
ah ok, i use dbm....just out of habit.
Will try bigwigs again thnx
dry hawk
details used to track that
earnest canyon
yeah it doesnt now
or at least it doesnt out of the box
wasnt sure if its a midnight thing, or an addon thing, or a me thing, or some combo
random shadow
@sullen doveis bird dead yet
sullen dove
what r we insinuating here
sullen dove
think crit willingly benched himself
random shadow
cause warrior is apperently bad in that fight or so he says
sullen dove
im sure he coulda pulled strings if he wanted
yea i mean not great
im now realizing im not full prepared
need to farm a puzzlebox
random shadow
theres no shot puzzle box woudlk be good for the arms in that fight
surely the hard 2 cast
sullen dove
i mean its like a 1 sec cast in lust
but yea just do like 30% more dmg or whatever for 15 sec or whatever duration is during the only significant dmg portion in the fight
random shadow
you right
sullen dove
and spending 1 sec casting a box prolly outweighs the like 1 single slam or overpower you miss out on at the end of the egg
random shadow
i mean probably, but its 1 sec less
sullen dove
like lose 1 sec of hitting boss casting after gate, or lose like maybe 2 seconds of pbox uptime doing it before gate
random shadow
lose uptime when clicking defenses anyways
sullen dove
nothin aside from rally is a gcd
slim coral
Hey man I’m a goated kicker
sullen dove
nowaying
sullen dove
massive
sullen dove
truth nuke
bitter palm
https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450
colo on beloren in .5 two demolishes in egg
sullen dove
surely it has to be good
slim sluice
So question. Wowhead says the priority is Rampage over 100 rage, do I not cast Rampage unless I am over 100 at all?
hot shell
What in the arms is going on in the fury chat
placid lily
no
slim coral
So question. Wowhead says the priority is Rampage over 100 rage, do I not cast R...
depends if you are enraged
or if enraged if about to fall off
slim sluice
so, if I am enraged, dont cast it? lol
slim coral
if so and no toehr button is up then you can press ramp after bb
slim coral
yeah that use to be the way
when the apex actaully mattered
you would stack it by spamming ramp
sullen dove
padding on crystals w
slim coral
Hey man idk our hunter dnl kinda insane pumper
tropic apex
Yoooo
smoky vale
Yoooo
tropic apex
How we feeling about fury in .5 patch
worn rain
numb
smoky vale
tropic apex
That doesn't really give me a % gain/loss on dps tho
slim coral
are ur hunters
Fury kinda goated idk
modest condor
no numbers because the changes are so small it doesnt matter
slim coral
when you're the one allowed to touch the ads
compact knot
70k boss dps
slim coral
graceful mural
Maybe this is a hot take but I’m new to the class and I feel like Fury’s fun even if it’s not good
Warrior’s just a dope class
junior gale
Fun and performance are indeed two different things
graceful mural
Yeah I mean there’s a lot of conflating the two and like sure big number does equal fun to some extent
But not entirely
Fury’s still fun
Spell reflecting polymorph is still fun
junior gale
Yeah people like to mix them cuz big number. Warrior as a class just owns to play. Peak movement abilities. Rage owns
graceful mural
100%
random shadow
it depends on what level of content youre doing
which imo not what everyone factors in
graceful mural
Yeah that’s true too I’d imagine Fury would be less fun than some other specs if I was regularly pushing 18s or M raid
random shadow
if youre not a very top end pusher of keys or mythic raiding for HOF it doesnt matter as much
graceful mural
Facts
bitter palm
in that case arms is fun
random shadow
M raid is different
then HOF pushing
m raid can still be fun for you if youre just "casually" dare i say causally do mythic
tropic apex
I thought they reverted the mountain thane nerf only for prot?
slim coral
70k boss dps
it was actually 88k
slim coral
I thought they reverted the mountain thane nerf only for prot?
its not only for prot
check updates midnight
above the arms channel
compact knot
my best pull is like ~94k with no execute phase
supple marten
GUYS IS THE THANE CHANGE REVERTED WE NEED TO ASK A MILLION MORE TIMES
compact knot
you can prob play either but i think my comp arms is jsut better
tropic apex
its not only for prot
Where is the source for that I can read it in the update midnights but last blue post that was made yesterday it doesn't say it's reverted
compact knot
cause 2 hutners blow everything the fuck up
junior gale
GUYS IS THE THANE CHANGE REVERTED WE NEED TO ASK A MILLION MORE TIMES
no new update unreverted it sorry thane is dead
junior gale
Where is the source for that I can read it in the update midnights but last blue...
its reverted man. Just silly intern only put it down for prot
in the notes
tropic apex
I'm just looking around for any source saying it was reverted for fury too as all posts about it is only for prot and made a post 12 hours ago saying it was coming nerf for fury too
modest condor
they reverted the revert of the reverted revert so it's unreverted now or something idk
slim coral
Where is the source for that I can read it in the update midnights but last blue...
source is archi
modest condor
source is ptr
modest condor
too late
slim coral
modest condor
damn
hot shell
About time
modest condor
what kind of ion was it? is it stable?
worn rain
New class added: Shmorrior
junior gale
table salt?
chilly kayak
Yo high guys is the mountain thane nerf reverted?
supple marten
Nah it’s not
hot shell
I dont know if there is any high guys here, good luck getting the answer
junior gale
I am pretty high rn yeah
chilly kayak
Sorry my English isnt very good
junior gale
Yo high guys is the mountain thane nerf reverted?
supple marten
Thane is being renamed to bench
slim coral
Yo high guys is the mountain thane nerf reverted?
yes
chilly kayak
Thanks high guys much appreciated it 🫡
frozen scarab
am i shit or are +13s hard
olive wraith
Uh
modest condor
there's certainly a skill issue involved there
olive wraith
Are you pugging
frozen scarab
😭
frozen scarab
Are you pugging
yeah
olive wraith
Could be a mix of skill issue and bad group
hot shell
Maybe its not a you issue
olive wraith
Have I bricked a key on a mistake? Yes
frozen scarab
idk just randomly in a pull my dps or healer just dies
frozen scarab
always
hot shell
People tend to stand in shit in pugs
olive wraith
By kicks I mean did you guys stagger kicks
hot shell
If youre blasting and kicking its not a you fault
olive wraith
Or are casts going through
Could you have done something better? I’m almost positive yes. But doesn’t mean you’re to blame for the brick
frozen scarab
possibly
hot shell
Could also be a tank route that was too slow. Some Tanks pull pack by pack like its classic
thorny basin
am i shit or are +13s hard
theyre not bad
hushed gust
confirming question. these upcoming changes to Slayer aren't going to tip the dungeon meta, are they? they're just gonna make our raid spot aoe a bit better, i'd assume.
young swan
probably, yeah
wintry crag
Yo high guys is the mountain thane nerf reverted?
Looks like the cooldown part of it is nerfed from 50%, but the damage nerf has been reverted.
young swan
it makes slayer fury better in raid, but it doesnt make slayer fury better for raid
if that makes sense
hushed gust
i'm not too wrried about raid. i've already got a guaranteed aotc slot, and i'm far from cutting edge as-is.
the dungeons on the other hand, i wanna try to push to that new 3.4k achieve. maybe. i've done 14's on harder seasons.
young swan
slayer will be fine for that
olive wraith
3.4 not bad either. You’re gucci
modest condor
Looks like the cooldown part of it is nerfed from 50%, but the damage nerf has b...
where are you seeing that? it's still showing 50% cdr for me on the ptr
wintry crag
wowhead talent calc, maybe not updated :(
unborn dome
slayer or thane for hheroic crown?
winter shoal
alright slayer fury is broken for mythic L'ura
explain to me the reasoning behind this
bitter palm
they are letting him pad
winter shoal
surely there are better classes to pad that do more to boss, no?
bitter palm
idk i was watching khas stream
misty edge
warrior is bad dont take the bait
winter shoal
I mean surely devourer or demo lock or something just eat them alive and still do more boss dam right
esp if fury is saving cds for crystals
stoic star
You know how sometimes when big tuning comes out wowhead or alike websites will post an image that shows each classes buff % or nerf %
anyone know if thats come out?
dapper goblet
alright slayer fury is broken for mythic L'ura
@misty edge
misty edge
thanks greg
young swan
alright slayer fury is broken for mythic L'ura
p1
hot shell
Is belf and velf the exact same moveset? Ive been looking at human ass for 21 years now. Im thinking about joining the goonsquad
olive wraith
anyone know if thats come out?
When the changes go live?
young swan
Is belf and velf the exact same moveset? Ive been looking at human ass for 21 ye...
they are yeah
hot shell
Where can i racechange again for the sim.. gotta make sure not to lose anything
drowsy heron
i was thinking Slayer is probably better for Lura, its mostly ST save for a few burst add phases right?
young swan
i would think so
but at that point
just play arms
im just assuming ur talking about mythic cause obviously you can just play whatever for heroic
sullen dove
<@114159945582247942>
baze owns apook?
may need to scout that guy for infinity idk...
supple sinew
why does Arms feel so slow and clunky compared to Fury to me? Is it because it is slow and clunky compared to Fury?
compact knot
why does Arms feel so slow and clunky compared to Fury to me? Is it because it i...
colo is very clunk
especially in ST
its a finished AOE rotation but i feel like its missing something in ST
supple sinew
the sound effects dont hit like fury does either. I'm at the point where I would just switch mains instead of to arms if fury dmg is bad enough
young swan
i actually find it to be the opposite
misty edge
baze owns apook?
wish I was on the bench
misty edge
been waiting 3 years
slim coral
Max is too scared I might become the best raider gg
sudden tusk
young swan
Max is too scared I might become the best raider gg
u know nori is in the guild and has literally won the race right...
sullen dove
yea but a babymode race or a real race
young swan
nathria
slim coral
u know nori is in the guild and has literally won the race right...
I wathced that race but I was too noober to remember names
I only remember names from SOTFO and on
young swan
nori was in sepulchure as well....
misty edge
he was in the guild in SOTFO
young swan
world first halondrus...
sullen dove
halondrus
baze's favorite boss
supposedly
doesnt know name of every raider on it
strange
young swan
that was the tier he stopped raiding there
sullen dove
mickey mouse timegated 3 week raid tier
sudden tusk
this is like the tank healer tier oh my god
young swan
cause they forfeited (boss too hard)
sudden tusk
fighting for my LIFE
sudden tusk
dont talk about legendaries im still mad about fyralath
3 months to get a lego you are balanced around fucking explode
fiery edge
Future for fury?
dapper goblet
if you did not prog pre nerf halondrus you do not get to say it was a goated fight
misty edge
PS5 voice comms with Xeos
young swan
3 months to get a lego you are balanced around fucking explode
yeah and the leggo sucked too i hear
dapper goblet
I loved pressing 
on bosses and just would not get the max stacks on them
steady oak
hey guys this might be dumb question but would any1 here know which spec is best for clearing delve on early lvl warrior?
gaunt fulcrum
prot
sullen dove
if ur not then fury as mountain thane most likely
steady oak
ok ty was wondering if maybe scaling at lvl 80 let fury or arms rip through it
sullen dove
i mean yea if u have good tww gear u can prolly dps low lvl delves jsut fine
steady oak
it would just be lvl 1 delve for quest completion
gaunt fulcrum
yea like lvl 2 delves i was blowing thru low levels as fury idk if best but def doable
sullen dove
depends mostly on ur ilvl tho im sure even in midnight questing gear its fine enough
not that high stakes anyway
t1 delve takes like 5-10 min to do
slim coral
if you did not prog pre nerf halondrus you do not get to say it was a goated fig...
what if we progged it
and didnt' kill it
dapper goblet
you didnt
steady oak
even as prot its fast?
sullen dove
if u end up not being able to do it as dps then can always go out swap back
probably yea
steady oak
id be around 120-140 ilvl
sullen dove
prot does good dmg
slim coral
I did!
steady oak
i see
dapper goblet
didnt
steady oak
ok i appreciate that tysm!
dapper goblet
didnt
frail spire
are there any sims of what slayer will look like next week?
young swan
are there any sims of what slayer will look like next week?
its like 1k worse on st and idk how much better in aoe
a little bit
maybe
dapper goblet
wrong
misty edge
The nerfs xeos is talking about are from a month before that...
slim coral
no shot
frail spire
its like 1k worse on st and idk how much better in aoe
oh really thats lame
dapper goblet
misty edge
Weird
dapper goblet
slim coral
was it?
sullen dove
but bomb holders being able to participate in knocking orbs back
i mean thats just like a third of your raid or more
slim coral
did it change p1 expierence idk
sullen dove
that cant do that mech no
i ofc only progged that boss in like the most nerfed state possible
but almost certain that made it like 5x easier minimum
dapper goblet
misty edge
The last phase was hell on earth for melee bombs to baby mode
modest condor
10s to 30s probably the single biggest nerf in a single line in raiding history
sullen dove
gotta get dat oooorb maaaan
dapper goblet
LMAO
sullen dove
come ooooon
dapper goblet
iykyk
sullen dove
iykyk
slim coral
The last phase was hell on earth for melee bombs to baby mode
ok but how much did these nerfs actualyl change p1
sullen dove
wasnt baze the one that clipped that actually
sudden tusk
God i wish fury wasnt ass id be such a safe little boy
slim coral
alright time to get the clip
sudden tusk
you get targetting by pylons as one of the 3 melee on the fight over and over
just run out of shit to press
slim coral
damn cant find the clip
sullen dove
some things are best left forgotten to the annals of time
sullen dove
gg
slim coral
the golden clip
gentle badge
does anyone use default blizz CDM and have problems with whirlwind stacks not being their actual number? i was hitting dummies before and the whirlwind icon would just disappear sometimes and then repopulate