fury

[fading sky]

277

with loads of raid loot KEK 😄

also me realising i got 0 mythic raid loot while im checking my char

well i got 1

😄

[undone flower]

Yes I’m talking purely in myth raid loots

I got the legs from raid, everything else are vaults

Im waiting to reclear dragons to craft either cloak or boots

I still have 150 myth crests

[sullen dove]

may i posit

1 good cape in the raid

2 easier to get just as good boots in the raid

and also boe boots

but ig reasonable

[undone flower]

They are 2 m gold

[sullen dove]

psh

[undone flower]

But…

[sullen dove]

just loot one

cluegi

[undone flower]

I got a cloth helmet boe yesterday

[sullen dove]

holy toledo

if it has a socket shit like doubles in value

truth nuke

[undone flower]

I posted for 2m

[sullen dove]

dont be my gm that posted a socket boe helm by just auto rightclicking it in and matching lowest price

what a classic

shit was insta swiped up by some bot

[undone flower]

I posted at matching lowest price, it was 2m

[opal leaf]

Can i use double arcanoweave embellish?

[sullen dove]

yes

[sudden tusk]

i really should craft my second embelish next week

[undone flower]

Yes I will likely use double arcano myself

[sudden tusk]

but i have so many myth main stat things to put stuff into

[sullen dove]

i would like to be allowed to myth craft my cape

but prolly wont happen

[undone flower]

To have double embellish on arms + fury

[sudden tusk]

i could hero craft the embelish ig...

[sullen dove]

maybe if i get nothing out of vault and shoulder tier doesnt drop

then i can

dont have another myth weap to embel cape anyway

hunt owns arcanoweave

so need 289 weap or bust

[sullen dove]

u watch s2 frieren yet

[sudden tusk]

yeah

gud

[sullen dove]

its p epic

not as good as first season i think

tho i am beyond excited for next season

but full soundtrack just dropped like a day or two

[sudden tusk]

this the list for this season so far

[sullen dove]

ong ost makes this show like 60x better

its insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwSoBd-t2e0

[sudden tusk]

yeah music is so good

[sullen dove]

evan call literal master worker

[undone flower]

2000% read dorohedoro

I put it in A anime/manga, so I definitely suggest it

[sudden tusk]

hero embelish cloak is 500 dps hmmge

[sullen dove]

wutdahelly

do u have a weapon

[smoky vale]

i remember watching whistoria

[sudden tusk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aGFbZ9i85U8t6mqmnN6u57

this my gear rn

[sullen dove]

yea you weapon having swine

altho versemast

yikers

[smoky vale]

hey chud reply to me @sullen dove

[sullen dove]

what man

[sudden tusk]

ill get paladins wep eventually

and lura wep eventually

[sullen dove]

yea first kill bdk got it

ngl i do not think i want that lura weap

[smoky vale]

just get 2x lura

[sullen dove]

there is no chance in hell u can find enough crit

[smoky vale]

huh

why not

[sullen dove]

if u have only haste weapon and ring off her

[sudden tusk]

lura wep good for arms

[sullen dove]

nah

[sudden tusk]

since paladins wep so low last

[sullen dove]

lies and deceit

[smoky vale]

you play pit and aa ring

[sullen dove]

i physically cannot have more crit on my gear aside from like 2 pieces

dropping 200 crit for 200 haste

is nuts

[sudden tusk]

if you want crut instead of haste ring from lura just use the belo ring too

[sullen dove]

i think beloren ring p good

like 90% crit

but even still

[smoky vale]

or beloren

also salhadaar neck

[sullen dove]

pit neck has more crit

[smoky vale]

no?

[sullen dove]

pretty sure

[undone flower]

I use pit neck and set rings as arms I’m still quite low crit

[sullen dove]

i have like 15 more crit than haste

using same stuff

have cancelaura haste buffs in my reck pot macro lol

[undone flower]

I might have 800-900 crit unbuffed

[sullen dove]

ok maybe salhadaar neck is more crit

[smoky vale]

maybe its aa and beloren ring

[sullen dove]

le funny

[smoky vale]

i think fury bis is 2 lura mastery neck eye of midnight

and uh

[sullen dove]

aint no way u just said double lura weap to me rn

[undone flower]

I don’t consider Lura gear tbf

[sullen dove]

+5000000 haste

[smoky vale]

paladins ring

[sudden tusk]

well crit sims better in aoe

[smoky vale]

and the lura neck

yes bro

trust

[sullen dove]

will catch me dead before im equippin allat

[smoky vale]

who else is gear going to man

[sullen dove]

idk ill take it for mog and to have

but liek

[smoky vale]

who in your guild needs mastery ring

[sullen dove]

idk everyone probably

unholy dk

maybe

[cold prism]

Hey guys, quick question if i can, i'm full bis right now and doing many key 15+ and mythic raid, i will simm my gear with patchwerk one target with "replacing gemm and enchant on" and raidbot told me to replace all my gems by haste/crit gemms, when i simm with patchwerk 5 target 1min he told me to replace all my gems with haste/mastery gemms, can u tell me witch simm his the best overall "m+ and raid" and what i need to choose ? Ty for all ur answer warrior friend ❤️

[sullen dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RudO5YaZXF0 ts is actually flaming piano gif

[undone flower]

Just craft a ring

At one point

[sudden tusk]

on the plus side i found a use for the 10 myth crests

just downgrade em to hero so i can craft with 80 yippie

[sullen dove]

imagine pretty small difference either way usually just going with single target sim is fine

[undone flower]

In undermine my bis gear was 3 crafts smh

[sullen dove]

since fury aoe is pmuch directly translated from single target dmg

but can really pick whichever gem u want or is cheaper assuming difference is like in the double digits, or maybe up to 100

[sudden tusk]

its crazy man people that bot crafting without weakauras

[cold prism]

Ty for ur advice @sullen dove

[sullen dove]

doing 15s is gaming tho

[smoky vale]

Ty for ur advice @sullen dove

[sullen dove]

big game

silence swine

[smoky vale]

when will @sullen dove game with me

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-gif-27111274

[smoky vale]

🙁

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

[cold prism]

i actually try to push higher key but need to be opti for raid also

[heavy folio]

what build for beloren hc 1 egg burn?

[sullen dove]

yea i would imagine raid higher prio rn

as fury probably slayer

[smoky vale]

whats it like to raid

[sudden tusk]

prot so they can bring in another mm hunter

[sullen dove]

arms might be better

lol

dont think it that deep on heroic

[sudden tusk]

nah just joking but its prob arms

slayer arms st

[undone flower]

1 egg burn just comes down to everyone holding CDs on pull

[smoky vale]

hey swordidh what if you played lock and i played aug

:3

[sudden tusk]

man that sale you got in on friday has gotta be massive payday

big jelly

[undone flower]

I won 300k in /rand this week

[sullen dove]

yea ok man

you in mythic sale i forgot to sign up to

shadduuuup

but yea maybe

havent done lura since like 2 weeks ago

surely its easy now

with some nerfs

cluegi

not that it was rly hard

u pass p1 its basically gg

[undone flower]

I still have not killed Lura hc

[sullen dove]

kill boss before seeing like 1 mech in p3 lol

maybe with boostee's a little different

yea i mean its rly just the memory mechanic thats probably a pug killer

and had a pretty good guy calling it out for our guild bonus run

but surely some seasoned community raid leads will have immaculate callouts for it

[undone flower]

Maybe the p2 soaks hurts if you are not 100% focused and boostee deads

[sullen dove]

yea think they nerfed those a bit

and hopefully youre able to do the mythic beam strat

preposition them around markers

i think it should work

[sudden tusk]

we dont have buyers supposidly (yet)

[sullen dove]

yea

[sudden tusk]

at least i wont have to look for a pug

[sullen dove]

Peep promotion if want to witness wowzer p2 arrow baits on me

[sudden tusk]

im such a fat chud

[heavy folio]

nice trinkets bro

[sullen dove]

powerful

[sudden tusk]

suprised you hold avatar so long

on dimi

[sullen dove]

on what

oh first guy yea for sure he takes 0 dmg

until more stacks

Just kinda felt the best idk

[sudden tusk]

not like our cds do anything

[sullen dove]

Morium died like 15 seconds earlier than usual randomly that def hurt the p1 dmg bad

idk who did what to him

he got touched for sure

[sudden tusk]

oh your group swaps OMEGA early

you get to feast for a abit

[sullen dove]

usually yea

[sudden tusk]

no wonder you dimi damage is higher

we have some execute men blowing him up

[sullen dove]

yea they been saying “melee swap” last like 50 pulls when we were gettin comfy

but just kinda hit em with the “no”

nonverbal ofc

although maybe 1 out of every 10 pulls demiar is actually insanely healthy for some reason and if I didn’t stay behind he wouldntve died

so uh…. Just some harmless disaster prevention strata true

[sudden tusk]

i feel like we solidify p2 and even deep p3 tomorrow

and might just explode the boss

[sullen dove]

yea p3 kinda easy think the first jump prolly the hardest

but p2 arrows being correct are kind of required

we didn’t even fully do it correct missed 1 arrow final set

only lost like 5ish more seconds in p2 cuz of it but every lil bit helps

but if u miss any of the first 8 arrows u don’t have enough time to get last set so missing one becomes missing 3 and ur actually just turbo fucked

[sudden tusk]

yeah

[sullen dove]

so ye my arrow plan should surely be adequately informative sacred texts

It’s I think what we did but yea simple as a ranged just always runs into/through boss every arrow set pmuch

[sudden tusk]

wonder if its worth to kill voracius add

[sullen dove]

move out too cringe I think

didn’t bother

[sudden tusk]

mayhaps

could just walk in 2 target blow it up until first go out then back to boxx

same thing with third add

but that might just be

pad piggy behaviour

[sullen dove]

lil bih

[sudden tusk]

instead of hjitting boss

i think might be worth 1 and 2 to get rid of intterupt guy

[sullen dove]

I enjoyed the devourer assassinating 3 of us with zero remorse with a last microsecond obelisk move

somehow didn’t wipe to that

and also didn’t wipe to me chud double popping a tether

[sudden tusk]

yeah idk how you got r1 with a death

i must roll and smoke you

[sullen dove]

actually just tunnel visioned boss was looking at its hp and it going out of my melee hitbox so heehee hold w

[sudden tusk]

posthaste

[sullen dove]

yea I mean I got rezzed fast not that bad

did lose some buffs tho

Notably some cs apex stacks and imminent demise

very sad

[sudden tusk]

yeah that boss tho

[sullen dove]

Unholy dk Chad mode

[sudden tusk]

is so weird

legit nothing happens

[sullen dove]

it’s rly fun ngl

idk how we didn’t all die to a double pop

goat healers

I shoulda wiped us

But yea with my best p1 instead of that p1 I do like 12k more overall lol, and not dying at end probably another 1-2k

at least

game tho

bedge

[sudden tusk]

gn

[unkempt dagger]

btw guys, what do you think about 12.0.5 changes, yay or nay?

im kinda sad that sudden death wont proc reap the storm

[fading bane]

Nay, they done fuck all

[unkempt dagger]

feels so good to press

[unkempt dagger]

ye kinda underhwhelming

[fading bane]

Fury has th worst niche atm

[unkempt dagger]

i really wish they gave us 8 target cap in recklessness

[fading bane]

All you are good at is consistent aoe with thane

[unkempt dagger]

yeah, i dont like thane

just feels so mid and unfun

(i understand that its probably better of 2 specs, but slayer ftw)

[summer quail]

Got reverted

[uneven path]

Yeh tbh can't wait to slam some slayer keys next week

Btw was wondering will SD now be highest prio even over bb ?

[fading bane]

Only if you are at 2 stacks likely

So you dont waste charges

[uneven path]

Hmmm thought with buffs to BS and removal of reap from Bt/bb it would bump it over

I guess BB in sub 35% will still hit pretty hard especially if it crits

[wheat kindle]

Was playing thane last night, felt nice but no matter how good your rotation is you’re just a bit meh

From what I can see tho it doesn’t seem like arms is that much better, both specs aren’t the best. Maybe I’m wrong

[unkempt dagger]

really_

where is that in the notes

[unkempt dagger]

it just gets so fuckin boring after like a key or 2, im so not enjoying it, might be just me tbh

[sick pagoda]

Its a nice situation when the most exciting PTR notes for us is a nerf getting reverted 😄

[unkempt dagger]

someone said something funny in the raid the other day, some random finger drops and i said its like just a minor stat upgrade, and the raid lead was like , we will give it to someone else

and u hear guys going : NOT GIVING GEAR TO WARRIOR, IN THIS ECONOMY???

its crazyness, on bel, the one egg phase cheese, when i join a group i instantly write, i do shit burst dps, some of the responses make me chuckle so hard haha

[summer quail]

Yea

[unkempt dagger]

thats so good to hear, love that!

[fading sky]

i mean in HC i do feel like im not totally useless on the burst tbh

[unkempt dagger]

i mean u can do like 120k-140k

[fading sky]

its not terrible

just get a million SD Procs with crits

[unkempt dagger]

xD

can u buy that

onlyfans subscription

[fading sky]

i did do slightly better as arms

weirdly enough

[unkempt dagger]

yeah arms is a bit better

[fading sky]

its still well MEH

i mean in theory thane should be decent

but requires even more luck 😄

[unkempt dagger]

i feel like bcs the bladestorm scales with haste on fury

[fading sky]

Next time mby the Collosus arms will be the 100% go to

if u can get 2 demolishes in

something like playing for procs

[unkempt dagger]

on ST?

[fading sky]

y

[unkempt dagger]

is demolish any good on st

[fading sky]

yes

[unkempt dagger]

i honestly dont play arms that much so idk

[fading sky]

well its more collosus sims closer to slayer

and has more burst i reckon

if u can get it aligned into the window with some luck id venture

its just a theory most likely its a shit show, and we are just as sucky as usual

my only dream was collosus tuned to be the BEST st warrior spec, coz its the burstier one, and we all know they will NEVER burst OF to the level it needs to be to duck on ST 😄

or they just let Bladestorm be an absolute POWER house 😄

but thats prob not gonna happen either 😛

[gaunt loom]

should bladestorm be aligned with recklessness?

[fading sky]

yes

ideally it is

but thing is

u dont have to have both OFF CD

u just have to make sure bladestorm makes it within the reck window if that makes sense

[gaunt loom]

yeah

i see

which one usually comes off cooldown first?

reck?

[fading sky]

usually for me buts kindda well

sd procs lack of slayer strikes

fr its a big mess imho 😄

but id hold Bladestorm for reck but not reck for bladestorm

[gaunt loom]

yeah it feels like sudden death procs less often than slayer arms

[jovial dagger]

i cant for the love of god play arms so i m back here

[unkempt dagger]

Arms has better sounds

100%

[fading sky]

what slayer needs is the 2p from season 3

that gave loads of slayer strikes that again gave more sd procs

sd procs are fun

[red berry]

15% proc chance on strikes feels really bad on fury slayer

the amount of sudden death procs you get as arms tho

[digital mauve]

Noxiv been doing +20 keys and not the last dps put the two, so it's doable, fuck meta

[red berry]

i kind of hate how limp thunder blast feels still

i know its been a bit at this point

[still silo]

Yo! For simming dps for midnight raid bosses, what’s your go to settings for simming to find the best outcome for fury?

As midnight raid bosses are very sporadic AoE

[pearl sequoia]

mostly 1 target, but something like 3-5 target if im curious about some specific items

like ring set and seat gloves

but its a lot of burst aoe so its not like its prolonged anyway, so i guess back to mostly st lol

[knotty scaffold]

hi guys is it worth it to craft a 2nd blood knights warblade for dps?

[undone flower]

It’s 20%

[pearl sequoia]

go to droptemizer on raidbots and see what u want, haste mastery, crit mastery, haste crit id do

[undone flower]

Mb I was thinking about reap, slayer strike is 15%

[knotty scaffold]

oh, this is an addon?

[pearl sequoia]

simc on addons

raidbots website

can find a youtube vid on how to sim if u dont knoww

[jovial dagger]

ye but noxi is just built different

[radiant plank]

Team that has been pushing r1 keys for years continues to do so

color me suprised

[tardy lark]

title keys being more about the individual and time commitment than class

[knotty scaffold]

oh simming now already thx bro

[dusty herald]

hi !
do someone have an addon that prevents to stay by mistake in def stance ? eg a message on the middle of my screen that tells me "you are in def stance!! switch to berzerk!"

[terse ether]

Tnere is an addon called stance reminder

Ot defensive stance reminder, something like that

@dusty herald

[dusty herald]

Thanks ! @terse ether

[terse ether]

Pleasure

[tall quiver]

Being melee this expansion after 8+ year of only playing ranged, can i have the same weapon enchant on both weapons or do i need to have different ones?

does each weapon give a seperate buff?

[terse ether]

Sim yo self

You wany both yeah

[undone flower]

You can have 2x the same enchant yes

[tall quiver]

Yeah, sim tells me both the same, but i wanted to make sure if there is something the sim does not do correctly

[terse ether]

Not the same unless the sim tells you so

Make sureif you have an enchant already applied to toggle replace enchants

[frank rover]

what is the second healing potion this expansion?

[undone flower]

wdym by second healing potion ?

Like silvermoon health potions ?

[frank rover]

last time i played was the war within, and ther were two healing potions

with separate cooldowns

cavedweelers delight

and algari healing potion

[undone flower]

Cd was shared with combat pot

[frank rover]

oh was it?

[undone flower]

It’s the heal/mana pot

[frank rover]

regardless i still want it even if it consumes my combat pot

[undone flower]

Mana pots are combat pots

[slim pollen]

If you use 2 different ones, they proc individually and can be up at the same time. If you use 2 of the same, it usually just double the potency of the proc when it procs these days. So instead of procing more, it's just stronger when it procs

[undone flower]

Look for heal/mana pots I’m not aware of the name sorry

[frank rover]

@undone flower do you use plater

[heavy dock]

boys

[frank rover]

or anyone, could you please show me your

[fast mural]

Uninterruptable and important being 2 gray hues is criminal

[tardy lark]

i just have interruptible of any kind be green, uninterruptible be red and dont care about the rest

[frank rover]

could you show me this

[supple glen]

just choose colors you like?

but yeah default plater is misleading af

[frank rover]

i messed up the colors and they don't show correctly

[tardy lark]

not at pc so i cant, but top 4 on that pic as green, uninterruptible as red

[undone flower]

I used to, I’m using platy now, it’s Refreshing Serum the heal/mana pot

[supple glen]

the little line on the castbar for when the dr ends is nice tho

[daring granite]

having difficulty doing ST damage on M+, what should my priority look like? Playing MT Fury

I'm 273 iLVL avging about 60-65k on ST fights

sim says I can do up to 90k but idk how thats possible

[honest trail]

90 with higher gear

65k seems fine

As MT & your gear

[pearl sequoia]

sim is with full raid buffs and consumes wwith no mechanics

prio BT, rampage at < 100

ez

[daring granite]

idk maybe im just a bad pilot, I'm really trying in M+ with food, consumes etc and I just manage to eek around 105-110k overall dps

[fluid onyx]

Hey there, quick question regarding Seat's L'ura : according to the sheet, we can spell reflect the tank buster, but it seems to me I don't always press it at the right time. Does anyone have any advice as to when to press it ? Sorry if it's been asked, I did do a quick search and found nothing

[burnt oxide]

The number does not say alot without context on pull sizes

[burnt oxide]

Maybe in protection channel

[fluid onyx]

oops indeed wrong channel sorry lads I'll ask there

[undone flower]

When beams

It’s like dawnbreaker he does tankbuster when beams

[frank rover]

can this be macro'd with charge?

[burnt oxide]

Depends on what you are trying to achieve with the macro

[frank rover]

well i have an intervene macro on my charge but this seems way better as it won't kill me

[warm crag]

They are probably both on gcd no

[frank rover]

and it intervenes when im trageting an ally

and charge when im targeting enemy

but this is a bit different as it's aoe

[radiant plank]

that one needs ground targeting

[warm crag]

Idk the use Case isnt similar at all intervene is a targeted ability this is a ground circle

[radiant plank]

maybe @ cursor

but I wouldnt use it incase I hit it on a GOBLIN

tank

[warm crag]

Itd Just try to Charge the target and nothing else

[spare steppe]

You could do [help] [harm] but it doesn’t work with interpose

[radiant plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIG7TwwjS38

[frank rover]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

BEAUTIFUL

[elder mulch]

Hey everyone, I haven’t really been able to keep up with the changes for next week. Are these good changes for Slayer and Thane?

[burnt oxide]

I love killing myself with intervene mouseover when the tank and his nameplate suddenly charges through my mouse

[burnt oxide]

No changes for thane

[elder mulch]

Oh good, and slayer ? Good changes ?

[south kayak]

I did the same thing once lmao

[burnt oxide]

Reap is triggered by aoe rampage instead of bloodthirst, improved whirlwind applies rend

[south kayak]

I don't think the aoe thing is going live

they reverted that

or was that just for SD?

[burnt oxide]

Only sd was reverted

[south kayak]

ok

[elder mulch]

More chances to triggered ? Weird change

[burnt oxide]

Not more chances, 15% chance when rampage hits 3+ targets

Does not appear to scale with targets hit

[wicked eagle]

Is it time to learn arms?

[burnt oxide]

No, only if you want to play arms

Jumping ships the whole time for a theoretical increase in performance only makes sense on higher levels

[granite crown]

In theory it should cap damage at 90k or smth right? Or does it not check before damage is applied and you can get crit by boss autos or some shit?

[wicked eagle]

It’s just hard to keep track, seems to be a lot of dooming

[burnt oxide]

Warriors always doom

[granite crown]

Everyone always doom

[burnt oxide]

Yes but we doom with minimal reading comprehension attached

[frank dawn]

The changes are arguably good, but they don’t buff us

And considering how we’re doing atm….yikes

[livid arch]

The wowhead post with the spec make up of the top 1 of io rating made me sad

[south kayak]

But they're not tuning changes

I think they still haven't done any tuning for the next patch

[frank dawn]

Possibly

[fiery edge]

Do we sim patchwreck 5 targets for aoe?

[frank dawn]

It’s usually a good guideline for it

[spare drum]

im rly strugling this tier, Im atm 277 ilvl have 4p but still my dmg is horrendous. I just looked at our first myth Imp Averzian kill and my parse for that kill was a fkn 8. I need help. Any1 care to log at the log or something to see wth im doing so badly?!

[radiant plank]

did you hit the adds

[oak peak]

Fury parses right now = blow CDs on adds and pad

[spare drum]

yeah im thane so i cleave as much as i can

[radiant plank]

didnt hit them hard enough

[spare drum]

haha yeah this is why i usually dont care mucvh about logs and parses, its all about who can cheese the most 😛

[frank dawn]

You have to play like a degen on adds, and if the rest of your raid is also doing that, can be a problem

[spare drum]

yeah but my dmg is kinda bad all over, not ust on that boss 🙁

[astral ice]

well even if you are not hitting ads you shouldnt parse 8

[radiant plank]

#1347646810457636974

[frank dawn]

Yeah for sure. There are other problems happening

[spare drum]

not sure i copied the right link but i made a post

[spare drum]

yeah they are 🙂 the adds die really fast

[radiant plank]

quick look and you are wasting your rage most of the time, you generally just dont press the right buttons.

Go read the rotation guide on wowhead, do a quick sim against a target dummy on your raid talents and try to reach that number ingame against a dummy

@spare drum

[frank dawn]

Woof, that’s a lot of casts without rampage

[quiet geyser]

They have, just not for fury

[spare drum]

tbf in the back of my head i was almost sure it was a skill issue but it still sucks to hear but I appreciate the candor. I'll look into this.

[sullen dove]

[radiant plank]

if it helps you mentally, all parses below 100 are a skill issue

[spare drum]

hehe no not rly but thanks anyway 😛

[sullen dove]

Sometimes even 100 is a skill issue

[upbeat creek]

Skill issue best issue, you can do something about it

[echo scarab]

surely they're working on a substantial and fun to play buff for fury

surely

[ashen wren]

So are we switching back to slayer next week then?

I still see no changes that benefit single target though.

[frank dawn]

There are not any single target buffs as of now

But if you enjoy being at the bottom I guess it can be cool that Thane and Slayer might be the best any hero specs have ever been balanced with each other

[little escarp]

brothers, is Dungeon slice sim better than patchwerk 1.5 mins 5 targets for m+?

because i recall one time ppl saying the patchwerk 5 target sim is a better tool for m+ sims than dungeon slice especially for AoE.

just want to make sure if anything changed

[frank dawn]

Isn’t support for dungeon slice kinda sus? No clue if that’s changed

[little escarp]

that's what I mean cuz a friend of mine who also plays fury stopped using it cuz in TWW it was asking him to get more haste which is not a good play for fury in dungeons

[frank dawn]

Personally I just run 1T and 5T sims to see if there is any significant difference. If the differences are minor I lean toward the 1T results

[ashen wren]

At least when I’m at the bottom during raid no one tries to blame me personally

[vestal root]

if i do shit i blame blizz if i do well i blame my teammates for being shit

until warlocks start yappin then i Ignore them

[floral hull]

Is there a certain amount of mastery or haste we should be aiming for?

[coarse nest]

Roughly a morbillion

[tired bane]

Two morbillions*

[frank dawn]

Pretty much impossible to have too much haste or mastery this tier.

At high end some crit pieces might sim best but it’s usually like .2% difference

[dry hawk]

Do I have to now drag the debuff bar over to my character to see it instead of using an aura ugh lol

I liked weakauras, you could just make an aura for the middle of your screen and forget where the parent aura was

[vestal root]

i disliked WAs

not for the nice stuff they had

but for how much trash they would put on your screen and how everything was balanced around them

200 WAs for all the dungeons and raid bosses of the season

it was too much and giga bad for new players

[dry hawk]

I can completely agree with that, never installed those. I mostly used it for important stuff

[frank dawn]

WA had some really really good stuff, but yes also obviously it was going too far

Blizz replacements definitely not good enough yet either

[dry hawk]

BfA cinematic be like

[wide crag]

Hello
Bene playin fury for years: thinking to go arms for some bosses in mythic e for 16+ plus
Some tips for the change fury to arm?

[supple sinew]

just tried out arms holy shit how do people like this

[coarse nest]

Raiding feels exactly the same without WAs

They just removed all the QoL we had

Addons literally do everything WAs did it’s just more complicated on the backend

[last belfry]

yeah its just a way more complicated, blizz love making stack mechanics for arms, before TWW in DF was a pretty way too more simple, i personally like more fury in terms of how it works instead actual arms

[echo rapids]

How often do the adds in the intermission on chimeraus spawn? 30 seconds?

Can’t seem to figure out where to see that

[bitter palm]

idk colo owns in aoe gameplay wise imo

[brittle crow]

it doesnt

[stoic loom]

Maybe you rampaged into of

Rampage has a delayed effect on the ww stack

[flat river]

can someone link me the prot paladin grim batol tank gif

[rigid chasm]

it's something like that, just spawns with every breath

[rare garnet]

Good example of new player. Came in. Made a bunch of shit posts. Quit the game before they became relevant or good.

[echo rapids]

Trying to figure out if our mages are lazy or not

[rigid chasm]

with respect to what?

kicks?

[echo rapids]

Yeah if they can CS the first cast each wave

We are missing one of the first casts on the last wave consistently

[primal tulip]

arcane has the knockup to buy time

[random shadow]

is odds or evens better for chim?

odds so far feels kinda bad with cds

[random shadow]

this is where you just make a range kicker just prio the kick for a dk to grip

[echo rapids]

We only have 1 dk so one side is doing it without

[dense elbow]

Time to bring out that Warrior fear break tech B)

[echo rapids]

I was honestly about to spec into that

[dense elbow]

Just have a shaman drop tremor for the 1st of each wave

gg ez

[echo rapids]

It’s kinda fun to land the throw on the first cast as they spawn, gotta love a ranged kick with a travel time

[echo rapids]

Also 1 shaman but yeah

[random shadow]

shamans exist?

as rare as aug evos

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-jumping-shooting-in-war-xun2qNfnK1cV5r07GM

change team?

[sullen dove]

wait.

does slayer snare removal talent cancel out alleria obelisk things

i feel like there was like 1 or 2 occasions i def had one on me and then it just went away randomly, at least the slow and the lines coming out of me did i think i still had the dot

[echo rapids]

Wonder if a totem dropped in the middle of the raid would cover most people

[dense elbow]

Dont remember the range of it, but maybe - all I know is that the warrior one is tini

[echo rapids]

Yeah we only get 12 yards

Tremor is 30, not sure if it affects the group on the other side. Guessing not

[fringe vale]

It doesn’t

Or that’s what i think, a shaman yesterdqy in our raid saved his group with it

Did stuff like that worked on mythic deny for both groups? Because i think its the same

[storm lake]

heyy, on raidbots atm, what do you guys use as sim options for like ST and MT ?

[spare steppe]

I specced into it!

[dense elbow]

Hell yeah!

[fallen ginkgo]

1target 5min

aoe mostly 5targets

but fury kinda only need st sim cuz we cleave our st dmg

[narrow umbra]

https://i.imgur.com/OrrLKCq.png
Ive already crafted wep and wrists, which one of those neck should i craft

[storm lake]

fair tyy

[unborn delta]

tbh should prob craft arcanoweave cloak next and remove weapon embellishment

then after that you craft amulet/ring most likely unless you got one with bis stats

[onyx belfry]

do we play slayer after patch ? cuz of that
Reap the Storm now triggers when Whirlwind hits 3 or more targets. Chance to trigger changed to 15% (was 30%).
Imminent Demise no longer causes Sudden Death to trigger Reap the Storm.
Unrelenting Onslaught now increases damage dealt by Bladestorm by 20%.
?

[olive wraith]

You’re a bit behind

These are old changes and no longer the case

Reap now procs sd and when ramp hits 3+ targets

[onyx belfry]

omg sorry ... dumb shit ^^

[white nest]

I never saw that it happens when rampage hits 3 targets, that's real nice.

[frank dawn]

yeah it should flow better, but doesn't really change the damage of reap in aoe

[cursive ruin]

Heya! So, I wanted to swing by because I was curious about a thing or two. Just started recently playing Fury warrior. And I noticed that Crit is ranked very low in terms of secondary stat priority. Even below verse in some cases.

But at the same time, I see that one of the recommended trinkets is the heart of ancient hunger, and now I'm kinda confused. >->

[frank dawn]

mostly a product of most trinkets being bad, but crit is also not a bad stat most of the time even if it's not the best

and as people get more gear you usually see the value of crit rise. If you're still in like vet/champ gear that won't be the case for you

[cursive ruin]

Mostly nearing hero gear, I am only missing one or two pieces- but I also have some myth at this point

Just felt odd, that's all xD

[hearty geyser]

gg

they dont make furry great again

also i have question. This avatars buff 50% thunder clap works now? or next week

[rare garnet]

Okay TCs where my stack sim showing all the changes and if I’m doomer or gloomer going into the new patch.

[frank dawn]

fury is not getting buffed, so however you feel now is how you'll feel on tuesday

tuning notes tomorrow for sure tho

for sure for sure

[sullen dove]

fury slayer single target nerfed

aoe should be up a little tho

so poggers m+

[hearty geyser]

avatars bonus 50% to thunderclap works now? or next week?

[frank dawn]

it's unchanged from today

[sullen dove]

its been working now and it sounds like it'll work next week too but idk

[frank dawn]

or yeah...supposed to be unchanged from how it works now

[rare garnet]

Need exact 7 digit decimal accuracy new comparison between thane and slayer for both AOE and ST. Thanks.

[sullen dove]

idk someone'll do it by tuesday probably

[frank dawn]

honestly the balance between the two heroes seems like it's going to be fucking amazing. It's just that balance compared to other classes is at the bottom LUL

[random shadow]

what happened to slayer BT proc did it go through? patch notes doesnt mention it

[fallen ginkgo]

you guys think rampage is gonna be higher prio with reap changes? probably not cuz of rotation flow

[sullen dove]

ramp is already like number 1/2 prio

now

[random shadow]

fury didnt get much love man, slayer seems slightly better in aoe tho

[sullen dove]

so yea not much is changing probably

[sullen dove]

bt is gone it's on rampage in aoe only now

[frank dawn]

yeah nothing should really change about how we use ramp

I mean I guess I could be missing something, but I'd be surprised lol

[random shadow]

oh boy

im kidna fine with that anyways

we spam lots of rampage anyways

[frank dawn]

yeh, the reap nerf on single target is like a 2% nerf or something since they buffed bladestorm

others have said it, I think it's a better place for the design

[random shadow]

idk why they cant just keep it

[frank dawn]

but holy, we could use some tuning lol

[random shadow]

makes no sense

[frank dawn]

eh if they know ramp can never proc it on single target it just clarifies the tuning imo, and I think was part of their goal

but...we need tuning

[rare garnet]

Too may pad fights our overall looks acceptable.

[frank dawn]

does it tho? We've fallen drastically the last two weeks as adds don't matter, and tier bonuses buff other classes more

[random shadow]

adds dont live fym

they die so quickly now

and we're getting turbo next week

[frank dawn]

yeah adds are gonna vaporize next week

[cursive ruin]

wait how is slayer getting nerfed for single target?

[random shadow]

if we ignore raid items, youre getting 3 mythic pieces starting next week

[frank dawn]

we are losing reap damage on single target from bloodthrist procs

[random shadow]

we wont have the nonexistent add pad lol

[cursive ruin]

weeeee....

[random shadow]

wonder if mythic chim and what not will be more slayer then MT

with rampage change

[odd crater]

Do we all become Arms mains now?

[frank dawn]

probably

[random shadow]

probably

[rare garnet]

Never

[proven crescent]

We need to shut the server down

[random shadow]

arms go much more and better tuning and changes then we did

[odd crater]

I’d prob swap to Arms before playing Thane tbh

[random shadow]

tho i dont see arms col being played much in raid

[echo scarab]

dude what the fuck

[random shadow]

which is what got buffed the most for arms

[frank dawn]

that demolish buff will be interesting to see how it plays out. I kinda feel like we're back to laucnh problems of now it just won't ever align with anything lol

[unborn hearth]

Whats the tldr with the upcoming changes?

[lean heart]

arms on paladins low cortisol

[odd crater]

Play arms or cry

[olive wraith]

Fury is fine lmao

[wind token]

i've been messing around arms and holy fuck kill ravager

[olive wraith]

Chill

[lean heart]

i lowk been building up my arms setup we're good

[spare helm]

im prolly late

but didnt they say they DO NOT want to nerf thane ?

[lean heart]

ravager so dog shit real and true

[olive wraith]

#updates-midnight

[spare helm]

like thats in official notes

[echo scarab]

no improvement, mostly just feels bad to be an unwiped ass spec still

[glass steppe]

Hi guys is slayer alive in M+ with that announcement???

[olive wraith]

Slayer might be better ya

[spare helm]

ye but what i showed is in OFFICIAL which posted a few minutes ago but if it aint true im happy lol

[wispy thistle]

reading comprehension is hard

[modest wave]

whelp, we aint getting our ST buffs

[frank dawn]

hm, the mountain thane note is still in for Fury in the full notes

[random shadow]

am i stupid or am i misreading the rampage change

[spare helm]

thats what i said

[random shadow]

are we getting reap the storm proc AND the flurry of steel from rampage?

[frank dawn]

yeah

[random shadow]

or is it just flurry of steel

[frank dawn]

reap is the flurry of steel

[random shadow]

oh thats lowkey garbo man

wouldve been sick if its both

[spring lantern]

it is, they just are the same thing 😄

[frank dawn]

lol

[random shadow]

but imagine if you get both reap and flurry

[glass steppe]

But still a meaningful change? Or nah

[random shadow]

wouldve been fine instead of just getting rid of BT procs

[echo scarab]

vibes say it just makes thane aoe worse and slayer a little better

meaning theres no reason to play fury go arms

[frank dawn]

the reap change is essentially a neutral change on aoe

[random shadow]

vibes say just go col arms in keys

[frank dawn]

cleave is kind of getting a lot of nerfs

[warped bone]

Colo smash CD reduction tho

[frank dawn]

aura buffs coming tomorrow for sure

no cap

fr fr

[warped bone]

[random shadow]

starting the copium already

[warped gyro]

Thane being shot? Thought that got reverted

[rough vale]

just shut the discord ><

[echo scarab]

time to pack it up its been real fury

[frank dawn]

if the thane nerf ends up being real, that's kind of an oof

but, I think Archi said on PTR it was reverted for both Thane and Prot

so

[echo scarab]

we just straight up need a buff, not a reverted nerf to make us feel better about not getting punched lol

[frank dawn]

I don't think anyone disagrees, but there is also no dps tuning in this patch

will there be a hotfix announcement tomorrow? who knows

[spare flame]

are these reap the storm changes an addition to the current chance to proc from BT or is it replacing it

[frank dawn]

replace

[spare flame]

ummm

[olive wraith]

I like reap from ramp better tbh

[spare flame]

so it's a net ST nerf?

[dreamy furnace]

Question, most builds I've on a few sites like Icy-Veins don't use Rampaging Ruin which allows rampage to be aoe, is that talent not worth it?

[wary salmon]

You hit more ramps than bt so its fine. Whats the big deal

[frank dawn]

it's like a 2% single target nerf, because Bladestorm is getting buffed

[olive wraith]

It’ll be a slight nerf. Mitigated a little by the bs buff

[spare flame]

right

[frozen cosmos]

It's a DPS loss on low target counts

[spare flame]

but out ST is kinda shite already is it not

[frank dawn]

obviously fury getting nerfed at all in single target is silly, but

idk, pray for tuning

[spare flame]

our*

[oblique thistle]

You're funny

[frozen cosmos]

It's in the shitter

[oblique thistle]

You will have shit single target until next season and you will like it

[remote zephyr]

Hmmm fury is performing well on this Nerubar Palace mechanic, we can’t have that.

[spare flame]

jesus

[remote zephyr]

Better neuter them into the ground like the dogs that they are

[frozen cosmos]

I'd just go arms at this point

[scenic cradle]

anyone testing out fury slayer for m+

[oblique thistle]

Arms is great in keys but shit in the raid

Boss damage is ok but our add damage is shit

[frank dawn]

fury slayer is gonna be fun next week in keys imo, that bladestorm buff will actually be pretty big in vault keys with the burst I think

[spare flame]

what a bad time to be a zug zug main

[frozen cosmos]

Fury only pads adds

And other classes nuke them at this point

[spare flame]

maybe we'll be back in season 2

[frail dagger]

What do you think of the new Fury Warrior update?

[sullen dove]

Thane one isn’t real

rest are kinda whatever

not having to put rend on your bars is nice ig

[frail dagger]

the Thane will be unplayable now i think

[indigo sigil]

So Thane fury is nerf or not ? 😂

[sullen dove]

no

#updates-midnight

“has been reverted” under fury section

[indigo sigil]

Ok ok

[quiet geyser]

No nerf, but no buffs either. Fury still garbage

[sullen dove]

Yea slayer gets tiny aoe buff

and small st nerf

and that’s kinda it lmao

funny to think gap between slayer and thane st gonna get even smaller

[indigo sigil]

So in aoe pref Thane or slayer for big key ?

[sullen dove]

Almost def thane

[echo scarab]

thane feels more flexible than slayer in like every situation

[indigo sigil]

I think Thane for def

[sullen dove]

But real answer is colossus

[frail dagger]

ah hell nahw

boring as fk

[sullen dove]

it’s too peak

[frail dagger]

I was thinking about switching to an Arms warrior. But that would mean re-gemming and re-crafting everything. Ugh.

but in theory, based on the numbers, it's stronger

[spare flame]

nah fury or nothing, for me

[random shadow]

you dont really need to tbh

[frank dawn]

tuning notes tomorrow, definitely

DEFINITELY

[random shadow]

ntoes are already out tho

[frank dawn]

there's no tuning in those notes tho, for dps at least

[frail dagger]

need huge crit cap, no? With arms

[random shadow]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/official-patch-12-0-5-development-notes-systems-activities-class-changes-381256?utm_source=discord-webhook

[random shadow]

i mean the more is always better as any spec, but can just switch to arms with fury gear and be fine

[hasty shell]

maybe next Friday, they don't know what these changes are going to do they just threw darts at the dartboard

[frank dawn]

yeah there is zero guarantee any additional tuning happens soon

they did their 4 tuning passes they promissed on raid launch so we're back into 🔮 land

[rare garnet]

Fury needs no tuning. It is clearly the idealistic version of itself.

[hasty shell]

also 398 weapons soon, might shake things up slightly. Too many moving parts

[random shadow]

398 :o

[spare flame]

398

[rare garnet]

Big

[random shadow]

youre skipping a whole 100

[hasty shell]

298...

[random shadow]

but it aint ognna matter

[frail dagger]

Oh my gosh, I'm really thinking about rolling for Arms right now ahhw fk

[spare flame]

bro is from 13.0.1

[random shadow]

other classes are getting 298 as well

lol

[random shadow]

just play both bro

it aint that hard, you dont have to think much of it

get two sets of gear and be fine

[frank dawn]

but fury scaling! it will totally save us! it is totally a real thing that still matters!

[spare flame]

maybe if we shutdown the fury channel... (overused joke)

[frail dagger]

XD

ahw fuck

[rigid stirrup]

Well at least we can give fury slayer a whirl next week

In higherish keys at least

[quiet geyser]

Then ur copium will run out realizing thane is just better

And still not even that great

[rigid stirrup]

I mean ill just go back to arms

[quiet geyser]

Atta boy

[rigid stirrup]

Thane wore out its welcome

[rare garnet]

Remember when arms spammed this then was the best spec.

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[frail dagger]

Overall arms is better now?

[oblique thistle]

After a 15% aura buff and 2 single target buffs, yes

[bitter palm]

holy converted??

[somber eagle]

Reap the Storm has been updated – When Rampage hits 3 or more targets via Improved Whirlwind you have a 20% chance to unleash a flurry of steel, striking all nearby enemies for high Physical damage and applying Overwhelmed.

did they remove target cap from this or just forgot to add that to tooltip ? ;d

[random shadow]

go test it on ptr

its up for ptr

[quiet geyser]

I think it started with fury first, tww s1 maybe?

[frozen scarab]

is it a good day to be a fury player yet

[glass steppe]

50%

[kind bison]

damn are we fucked

[random shadow]

never

good day to be arms tho

[frozen scarab]

[glass steppe]

lmao

[woven valley]

time to convince my raid to let me go arms and change my entire bis lol

[frail dagger]

we are coocked

[random shadow]

bis kinda the same for fury

[frail dagger]

i need to leveling tauren priest or smth

[random shadow]

for the most part in raid

[glass steppe]

just play subtley rogue bro

[dreamy furnace]

Rampage takes priority over Bloodbath if rage is over 100 correct? I've been trying to improve my play but it seems like when I get lust I'm constantly capped on rage and when I analyze my logs on WoW analyzer I'm constantly getting flagged for ignoring Bloodthirst/Lust

[frozen scarab]

at least slayer was buffed...

[indigo sigil]

Just go play diablo for barbarian

[frozen scarab]

might be time to roll a rogue tho

[limpid kelp]

So they added the thane nerfs back?

[errant ferry]

Idk if I should stay thane tbh or just go all in on arms

[fiery edge]

wow, now fury becomes mid

[random shadow]

furys been mid

[fiery edge]

even more mid

midder

[random shadow]

[dreamy furnace]

Middling

[woven valley]

fury is bottom now

[indigo sigil]

Fury C tier

[woven valley]

our boss damage is below bottom

[random shadow]

as long i can get mythic gaze and heart im content for raid

all ima do after is just keys

and go col arms

since pumps

[fiery edge]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-glorpshit-glorp-glorp-cat-alien-cat-alien-gif-9384904690345916257

[glass steppe]

hmm bottom

[rigid stirrup]

You can just swap a neck n cape out for both specs and be fine

[desert cloud]

so is slayer back ?

or still lacking behind thane

[young swan]

might be a bit behind still

but it doesnt matter

cause arms is just better

:^)

[fiery edge]

mid blow

[errant ferry]

Time to go arms

[glass steppe]

thats good... r-right?

[errant ferry]

I've held onto fury long enough

[young swan]

if you dont play with a group that gives consistent funnel, play slarms, if you do, play colarms

[young swan]

i personally think so

i prefer having consistency over potential random upside

[hardy cargo]

the 12% of the time u didnt get one back in past seasons when u needed to spam rb fucking sucked

[random shadow]

only if RB wasnt a wet noodle

lol

[fiery edge]

mid blow

[glass steppe]

so with that + the reap the stom change STILL doesnt get near MT in M+?

[rare garnet]

Can’t hear you over the slury

[brittle folio]

So slayer lost bloodthirst Reap on ST?

[fiery edge]

ye, it's not the Slury you played in tww

[indigo sigil]

Yes

[random shadow]

garbo change man

[young swan]

its like

fine

[random shadow]

nah i want my BT proc :p

[young swan]

rampage is more pressed

[oblique thistle]

Yes, now rampage reaps on aoe only
Sudden death still reaps in st

[glass steppe]

rampage owns

[random shadow]

why cant we just have both

just keep BT proc, and get the new rampage

not like thats gonna bring us out of mid

[young swan]

cause then our entire damage breakdown is just reap and thats cringe

[glass steppe]

because fury is not names FROST MAGE

[near epoch]

I feel like blizz is just throwing darts at a wall and hoping a class discord doesnt get shut down in the process

[sullen dove]

Might bring us out of hot ass into mid

can’t have that

[near epoch]

TRUE

[sullen dove]

but yea idk just blanket buff our abilities by like 10% call it a day

[hushed ocean]

maybe they will buff raging blow a little bit

[sullen dove]

would still make us nowhere near the top of anything except maybe colossus aoe in m+

[glass steppe]

slayer atp just feels like punching with pillows

[oblique thistle]

I like to daydream too

[charred flint]

I mean not only slayer

[fiery edge]

AI doin the class balance

[glass steppe]

hey jarvis buff fury

[near epoch]

Jarvis, kill fury to remind them that warrior will never feel fun to play

[young swan]

i think id prefer fury stay shit while its miserable to play

[spring pier]

What`s the best way to log, thru combat log or raider io or what is best

?

[hardy cargo]

re fkn tweet

[young swan]

get the archon app, turn on advanced combat logging in game, type /combatlog before any content that you want to log

[hardy cargo]

alternatively raiderio app will auto turn on logs when u enter dung/raid

what ive been using for awile. just be sure to go in and actually delete the log files that pile up if you dont set it to auto delete

[ashen wren]

I say we riot

[safe orbit]

after patch 12.0.5 Arms much better fury?

[modest wave]

it already is

[oblique thistle]

Lol

[glass steppe]

gaw damn

[spring pier]

why sometimes my dps in details is 160k and on log is only 120k

?

[safe orbit]

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[safe orbit]

Fury*

[near epoch]

aug

[young swan]

in game damage meter is really bad

[near epoch]

also that

lol

[young swan]

this is raid dps

idk what we're supposed to be able to tell from this

[echo scarab]

well then

im a fury warrior gimme a break

[glass steppe]

pillow fight boys!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-bongo-cat-warrior-gif-27388603

[lost tangle]

Thank slayer is going to be the play once patch goes out?

[indigo arch]

arms will be

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[lost tangle]

Good thing I’m not in the arms chat 🙃

[errant ferry]

You are now buddy

[supple sinew]

I tried arms today and it felt slow and clunky

[fiery edge]

wtf

[gleaming crag]

Well they are going through with it, RIP THANE

[wispy thistle]

holy people need to read updates channel

[fiery edge]

it's reverted

[snow flower]

Archi confirmed otherwise. Check #updates-midnight

[gleaming crag]

It was reverted for prot this is official on wowhead ?

He posted it an hour ago... lol

[indigo arch]

You are now

[wispy thistle]

straight from archi

[indigo arch]

:)

smile

[fickle vector]

What spec of arms is pulling this high?

[sullen dove]

Colossus on paladins probably most of that tbh

Arms like top2/3 spec that boss

[soft hull]

So montain thane receives no nerfs?

[indigo arch]

The change is reverted, but frankly no buff= gg for fury atm

[gleaming crag]

We need a single target buff lol

[indigo arch]

Especially on any fight with aoe, colo arms gonna crank

[vast gorge]

will we be taking hack and slash for fury slayer build?

on tuesday

[south kayak]

They didn't aura buff a single dps spec in those notes

just the healers

[indigo arch]

Won't even mention m+, since arms already was gapping fury

[south kayak]

i doubt there isn't gonna be any dps tuning

[modest condor]

if there was tuning surely it would already be in the notes

[gleaming crag]

Huffing copium that they arent going to nerf us by 40% still lol

[south kayak]

The thing is, there isn't any actual dps tuning

aside from talent changes

[modest condor]

which makes no sense

[mellow crow]

slayer changes anything meaningful or nothingburgers?

[fiery edge]

it's still mid n aight

[modest condor]

pretty much nothingburger

[undone zinc]

Bloodthirst can still proc reap?

[rare garnet]

Talent changes are DPS tuning

[vernal mulch]

isnt it a slight aoe and st buff

[south kayak]

That's not what I'm talking about but ok

[vernal mulch]

with ww applying rend and bs getting dam buff

[vast gorge]

wondering what talnet to drop so i can get hack and slash

[vernal mulch]

oh but reap nerfs for ST…. kek

[rare garnet]

I didn’t have rend keybound so this change is a direct damage buff for me.

[indigo arch]

Fury would need an absurd aura buff to break even at this point

[modest condor]

what do you mean by break even?

[oblique thistle]

Finally someone says it

[indigo arch]

With any "good" spec

[south kayak]

lol

[quiet osprey]

with who? devourer? 😂

[modest condor]

oh you mean compete on st

[rare garnet]

Define good spec

[gloomy loom]

wtf they nerf us again?

[south kayak]

no

[modest condor]

yeah we do need a decent buff for that

[tawdry sage]

would fury benefit more than other classes from upgrading weapons in 12.0.5?

[gloomy loom]

im pretty sure they dont play the game

[indigo arch]

Oh in aoe too, fury needs a lot in m+

[modest condor]

it would benefit roughly the same as any other class that uses weapon dps in its damage calculations

[quiet osprey]

nothingburger patch for output, slight reshuffle, percent up or down

[indigo arch]

Not fury

[quiet osprey]

possibly interesting on arms colo, otherwise meh

[vestal root]

rip thane

[wise magnet]

Wtf is that Tclap nerf

[south kayak]

ugh

[quiet osprey]

bro it's literally unchanged

[sullen dove]

Thane is fine

read updates channel

[modest condor]

im just gonna stop reading this channel this is killing off my last braincell

[south kayak]

It's so hard to just check update channel before commenting some bullshit

[oblique thistle]

#updates-midnight

[quiet osprey]

hhahahahhaa

[vestal root]

ah ok idk ive read blizzard post

[indigo arch]

Reading is hard

[vestal root]

my bad then

[fickle vector]

Will hack and slash be worth specing into and prioritizing?

[gloomy loom]

are the buffs to slayer any good? seems strong buffs

[vestal root]

do we even care a lot about raging blow lol

[hasty vortex]

should i delete my character?

[vestal root]

yes

[rare garnet]

Yes

[vestal root]

uninstall, cancel sub

live life

[vernal mulch]

loooool

[oblique thistle]

As long as its a warrior

[rare garnet]

When in doubt delete it out

[hearty geyser]

15 nexus

[vestal root]

gz

[hearty geyser]

so i think we can spam thunderclap / rampage if more then 5 targets