the priority lists confused me but hearing explanations for things from experienced players is helpful, like why wait for 100 rage to rampage
#fury
tacit moat
supple glen
theres a bit more to it than not using your rage 100% correctly
tacit moat
i saw that, read through all my talents and didnt see anything about damage boosts or anything from that
supple glen
2 rampage wont fuck you every time
and top players still make mistakes, just far less in the big picture
undone flower
the priority lists confused me but hearing explanations for things from experien...
Yes it’s fine to ask, it’s just when the question hints too much the person does not understand how to read a priority list, little reminder or I ask if they do
supple glen
the priority lists confused me but hearing explanations for things from experien...
its mainly so you dont end up ragestarving down the line
ensuring you always have high value abilities to pres
tacit moat
its mainly so you dont end up ragestarving down the line
yea which is something that occasionally happens to me so talking to happy helped me understand the class better
undone flower
2 rampage wont fuck you every time
It can be correct to cast 2 rampage
But the initial question hinted the person does it too much
supple glen
during cds, but youre also less likely to notice
undone flower
during cds, but youre also less likely to notice
some rotational mistakes are hard to notice yes
if you prio simple rampage > BB during reck ST thane
tepid beacon
any of you guys trying out arms, I heard its currently better than fury in M+ - do you feel that is the case?
gusty sleet
yes so much i rerolled to paladin
somber elk
any of you guys trying out arms, I heard its currently better than fury in M+ - ...
I always feel Like I do better on fury
fading sky
I mean fury does a lot of boss dmg
Arms rly shines in grps where u pull to its strengths
Where as fury is just good
Sp puggin prob fury, if premade arms easily
bitter palm
slayer arms is a lot more versatile
fading sky
Y, but the st is lower
bitter palm
and tbh colo is very versatile too due to dynamic cds
warm crag
Slarms is just better than fury
bitter palm
idk im doing more st as slayer arms than fury
strong monolith
so much nerd shit in a warrior discord
bitter palm
like unironically im doing morie but could be a gear issue or sum i have like 25% mastery
warm crag
Col does so much aoe damage you are justified to build the comp around it
Idk Arms Just mogs fury but play whatever you want
bitter palm
been saying that for a while and i got called out for trolling and ragebaiting
bitter palm
Col does so much aoe damage you are justified to build the comp around it
how do i gear an alt quickyl
fading sky
Col does so much aoe damage you are justified to build the comp around it
And funnel
warm crag
I mean its just larpers and onetricks left here
livid arch
me the one trick
warm crag
Anyone who cares already rerolled @tardy lark
livid arch
Sadge
bitter palm
spoingus how do i gear an alt quickly
warm crag
how do i gear an alt quickyl
28 Demon Keys in a row
bitter palm
gg
livid arch
spoingus how do i gear an alt quickly
i got my bm hunter to 250 in like 2 hours if even
bitter palm
warm crag
Higher Score than me
bitter palm
this spec is brain nourishment
scourge strike epidemic epidemic scourge strike scourge strike scourge strike scourge strike epidemic
livid arch
my time playing bm hunter has been great. I never want to hear a ranged player cry about mechanics again. there are like zero mechanics in M+ this season for ranged
bitter palm
"melee spec" btw
i swear the only melee spell is soul reaper and festering strike/scythe
livid arch
i swear the only melee spell is soul reaper and festering strike/scythe
can't you do scythe from like 30 miles away?
bitter palm
https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gif-5332537
did u get geared by getting boosted through 10s for hero gear
or is there something solo u can do for good gear
tardy lark
did u get geared by getting boosted through 10s for hero gear
yuh
tardy lark
havent pugged a single key
bitter palm
ye im not pugging i will just do preys and whatever i can solo
tardy lark
idk havent done any preys xd
bitter palm
and i will get boosted through 10s too
tardy lark
did my first +11 at 150 ilvl so i had a +10 for rest of week
bitter palm
Shouldve been a shade of green
im red color already have a shade of green color in group
tardy lark
got myth track wep from vault
bitter palm
ye im just waiting for vault tbh
8 10s and wait for vault type shit
if i get weapon i assume i take it as uhdk
then craft 2 slots of whatever
tepid beacon
Sp puggin prob fury, if premade arms easily
will keep in mind ty, yea I can throw down with thane on fury quite a bit
tardy lark
yea
i bricked uh dk cause it was split alt
then bricked warrior to get hero track discount
bitter palm
what are u playing now in raid
fading sky
will keep in mind ty, yea I can throw down with thane on fury quite a bit
Y i think so
tardy lark
hunter
bitter palm
AWFUL time to be a warrior im glad im not raiding this tier
tardy lark
not touching warrior till it has to get geared for bis late season
bitter palm
the only fight where warr does some damage (paladins)
and that fight looks mega cancer for melee xddd
the entire raid looks mega cancer for melee
tardy lark
melee randomly having harder overlaps cause for some reason divine storm does 200k damage to melee only
bitter palm
also fight looks like it can either be ok if ur tank are human
or unplayalbe if they arent
tardy lark
you arent parsing for shit if tank movement isnt crist at least
bitter palm
bdk into nightmare preys time
tardy lark
did like 165k while good parses were like 180k
tardy lark
combination of tank movement and me thinking that holding stuff for 3 targets was the play
bitter palm
combination of tank movement and me thinking that holding stuff for 3 targets wa...
ye this raid aint it for warriors
simming 20k below good classes doesnt help either xd
tardy lark
nah open world stuff goes to champ track
simming 20k below good classes that fill the same niche
also, warrior doing cleave damage in ST spec is not ok, but devo dh doing cleave with EVERY ability is ok
bitter palm
ye my first dreamrift hc i played colo arms thinking i could just pad
turns out the devo dh spent 1 talent to make collapsing star cleave
the adds literally instantly disappeared
1 cast
my fault for playing the same game gng
john midnight spec
apex called midnight
wcyd
warrior in big 26
tardy lark
yeah im prolly gonna look to play some useful alt next tier
instead of just yoloing 3rd dk or 3rd hunter
supple glen
wait nightmare preys dont drop hero track gear??
the weekly gives you the beacon
so 3 preys = 1 hero item from delve
i got pants and had to replace my best 259 slot 
hardy cargo
yeah im prolly gonna look to play some useful alt next tier
I leveled unholy dk as a for fun alt ended up rerolling im just having a ton of fun even if I play way worse on it ts owns in midnighht compared to before pruning
supple glen
i got hero axe on my main from the first treasure, was nice
bitter palm
I leveled unholy dk as a for fun alt ended up rerolling im just having a ton of ...
bro idk its brain nourishment to play
like it works
has like clear design choices etc
supple glen
i leveled my dk and decided i dont like it lol
bitter palm
but its so braindead
pulsar quest
I took up unholy dk as my split alt and loved it, now im trying devourer and its pretty fun too
Which is apparently getting buffed in .5 somehow
The rich get richer am I right
supple glen
next plan was ww but wont be great for invites so now idk what to play lol. since i dont like range, everything points to ret rn
fringe vale
I went back to my hunter alt, its so easy wtf
Its straightforward af
Do this
Game
Ez
supple glen
survival was on the table but the cd is just weird
tardy lark
theres some nuance to the minor things as hunter
but general mm gameplay is very straight forward
supple glen
at least it felt weird to play around in prepatch for a newb
novel wadi
I went back to my hunter alt, its so easy wtf
I've got an MM hunter at 55 and I can't even level it becasue it's so easy/boring. Might get better at 90 obviously but don't think mine will ever get there
tardy lark
double aimedshot in volley window and shit like that
novel wadi
Stuff literally dies in 1x aimed shot 1x arcane shot
tardy lark
i would never consider a class what it is before max level
bitter palm
but it does insane dmg and is legit beyond invincible
tardy lark
leveling has 0 relation to how it plays in actual content
bitter palm
u can just not press a button against magic damage in 19s
supple glen
thats fair, but those pets just proccing at some point
is something
gotta level it first tho
bitter palm
and if u want to press something u have the MOST broken defensive in the game
supple glen
hehe
novel wadi
If they could sort out the energy issues for Assass rogue I'd be all over that. The period where you have energy is fun, building up DoTs etc but then you literally just run out of energy and it becomes a waiting game/resource management simulator
bitter palm
they refuse to give it energy outside of venomous wounds idk
at least thats how it was in tww
supple glen
does marksman have the same system with pets getting summoned every 30
tardy lark
mm has no pets
supple glen
i mean i wouldnt consider them pets as you dont command them around really
just a really weird cd
hardy cargo
bro idk its brain nourishment to play
for real idk what it is but it just kinda scratches that tism itch in my brain like warrior used to
supple glen
only heal im interesting in is disc 
brittle crow
and if u want to press something u have the MOST broken defensive in the game
spell reflect ..
odd vapor
is there a way to show the rage bar on top of cds? in WoW addons*
supple glen
senseiclassresourcebar
honest tundra
I've been finding it difficult to get into Mythic 8+ duns as s 264 warrior, 7 is a breeze so I'm not sure why people are against having warriors in 8/9
tardy lark
I've been finding it difficult to get into Mythic 8+ duns as s 264 warrior, 7 is...
they arent, more qualified (or overqualified) candidates just show up
compact knot
Idk man I'm trying to invite only 270 and 2.8k+ to my weekly 10s and I've seen some crazy shit
livid arch
yea, getting into keys as dps is about persistence.
honest tundra
none of my friends play wow 
livid arch
Had a 3.3k 275 feral druid with a int weapon and 2 int trinkets.
lmao. they forgot to switch out of healing stuff
dry hawk
I had a blood dk yesterday in a 10 thinking they could dps
livid arch
I've been finding it difficult to get into Mythic 8+ duns as s 264 warrior, 7 is...
the easiest way is to just push your own key. I only push my own key for the most part.
tardy lark
i just get way ahead of the curve as early as possible and then coast that for weeklies until next season
dry hawk
Idk man I'm trying to invite only 270 and 2.8k+ to my weekly 10s and I've seen s...
I had to tank 10's to get into them as fury 
honest tundra
wow
honest tundra
the easiest way is to just push your own key. I only push my own key for the mos...
yeah that's fair
tawny sonnet
Does it mater if you craft Blood knight's Mercy (Mace) rather than Warblade (Sword)? The mace has a higher bottom, while the sword has a higher top....has anybody simmed this??
winter shoal
Idk man I'm trying to invite only 270 and 2.8k+ to my weekly 10s and I've seen s...
seen some of the most demonic creatures playing this game in weekly 10s this week
smoky vale
so ideally you craft what looks cool to you or is cheapest
tawny sonnet
Nice...jt averages out im guessing
smoky vale
yes
smoky vale
no particular reason
you are overthinking it
also maybe
some of the weapons require a recipe from the raid
tawny sonnet
Nah just wondering. I like maces and axes as an orc and i keep seeing warblade in guides
tawny sonnet
Yeah i made the mace already and just got the polearm in a raid
proven quiver
Looking to craft a neck potentially that would be good for both prot and fury. any advice on which stats to pick?
supple glen
I've been finding it difficult to get into Mythic 8+ duns as s 264 warrior, 7 is...
bc there are people with 270singing up
supple glen
the easiest way is to just push your own key. I only push my own key for the mos...
no, the people i invite always deplete my shit
and its not like i give low ilvl and rating a chance
smoky vale
Looking to craft a neck potentially that would be good for both prot and fury. a...
haste
fury wants mastery while prot wants crit/vers
livid arch
no, the people i invite always deplete my shit
i always base it off of io usually. and if they deplete it, oh well. (this is super easy for me to say since im at resil 15 lol)
smoky vale
io is fake
supple glen
its okay i learn. dont invite groups. dont invite russians.
proven quiver
haste
ah okay. I figure prob mast then since it would benefit me more on fury having the correct stat vs prot
smoky vale
i love getting ran down by 3600 so far this season
proven quiver
supple glen
but yeah people are slowly getting behind fury not being worth inviting lol
not that its bad but theres no point
honest tundra
its okay i learn. dont invite groups. dont invite russians.
LMAO
echo scarab
how fury feels
burnt oxide
Did not have single dps outdps me as fury
echo scarab
fury damage
supple glen
wait whats wrong with groups
for me its always been someone trying to boost their friend
smoky vale
you 2 weeks late
echo scarab
fury got a buff in the sense that they arent going foward with the thane nerf they were going to do so in a way thats kind of a buff
winning
burnt oxide
honest tundra
for me its always been someone trying to boost their friend
ah that makes sense
supple glen
tired of winning
undone flower
for me its always been someone trying to boost their friend
if the someone is a tank or heal, he is free to come with his friend in my weekly key 
supple glen
yeah but the other day we actually didnt time bc the dmg was so bad
bro did below tankdmg and we just ran out of time essentially 2manning everything
brittle crow
bro couldn't do carries
tiny seal
does somebody know if we can leap on last boss of skyreach and not kill the add?
bitter palm
i love getting ran down by 3600 so far this season
armsrework would never
vague stump
does anyone have an updated sim spreadsheet comparing arms to fury now? w like all bis stuff
echo rapids
fury got a buff in the sense that they arent going foward with the thane nerf th...
They said they were gonna punch me and didn’t, true show of love
rare garnet
Agree. This is love.
supple glen
They said they were gonna punch me and didn’t, true show of love
huh, did they revert the tclap/ramp spam nerf
woven valley
huh, did they revert the tclap/ramp spam nerf
Yes they did
supple glen
🔥
modest wave
not "officially"
supple glen
btw does anyone else have a similar issue, im using bcdm and it keeps messing up my ui. like the ressource bar anchors just randomly change, the bar is a few mm off and is fixed by a reload
i try to chose that profile on a nother char and stuff is just all over the place despite working on main
jolly parrot
is doing this dps gain? https://imgur.com/a/36ijNwo
supple glen
are you running crucible
coarse nest
is doing this dps gain? https://imgur.com/a/36ijNwo
If you use the trinket associated with it yes, you will want the top 4 points in the tree
dark bramble
Any buff for furry next reset?
jolly parrot
ye
vestal root
steel shard
Any buff for furry next reset?
no
modest condor
yeah fursuits are now 20% more durable
dense elbow
Only if they stand in the swirlies
unreal onyx
I saw him die within like 4s every time
from not even incoming damage
I thought locks were invincible
fast mural
not if they dont turn burning rush off
dense elbow
I mean, it clearly isnt the most experienced player ever either. So my guess is just stood in fire
unreal onyx
oof
desert dirge
🕯️ Bestow upon me the secret knowledge to make my Thane ST Boss damage not suck in M+ 🕯️
I'm trying so hard
Do I.. Do I get a shaman?
twilit narwhal
I wish there was a way to practice doing the rotation when I'm not on my home computer. I feel like I'm getting there, but I need to practice more
stiff maple
🕯️ Bestow upon me the secret knowledge to make my Thane ST Boss damage not suck...
You play it the same way as in raid
There's no key specific trick or anything
jolly parrot
If you use the trinket associated with it yes, you will want the top 4 points in...
works everywhere?
smoky nacelle
Do I.. Do I get a shaman?
skyfury is bae
coarse nest
works everywhere?
Yes
whole latch
is there some secret tech with jumping during thunderclap/thunder blast? i see critcake doing it a lot
or is it the dreaded F.U.N?
echo rapids
I thought locks were invincible
They are, warlock is like the caster DK
If they can macro their gate and use it well it’s very comfortable
jolly parrot
theres no catchup at all ? @coarse nest
unborn delta
no
bitter palm
They are, warlock is like the caster DK
ok its not dk thats too far but they are mega tanky
like its not even funny how stupid dk is
echo rapids
ok its not dk thats too far but they are mega tanky
Fair, nothing is DK tanky
whole latch
Arms at least gets their defensive without griefing dmg
coarse nest
theres no catchup at all ? <@224952758808215555>
3 per week afaik
undone flower
wait before I tell you it’s 1 per week
hollow leaf
yes thank you game that is what I was looking for
dense night
Got to hit the 6-7
hollow leaf
vast gorge
pretty bad when i have to change to arms to get invited to a m+ and then change back to fury before the key is inserted
graceful mural
fucking based
echo rapids
pretty bad when i have to change to arms to get invited to a m+ and then change ...
This is the darkest timeline
olive wraith
That sounds like cap tbh
dense night
pretty bad when i have to change to arms to get invited to a m+ and then change ...
At what key level?
olive wraith
Source:happens to me twice
supple sinew
how fked are we in 12.0.5?
last lichen
im kinda hype to try slayer, it seems good to me
olive wraith
how fked are we in 12.0.5?
Not atm
nova lion
What weapon enchants should i be doing
olive wraith
Thane is untouched
bitter palm
it got reverted
supple sinew
ohh shit!
remote bobcat
omg hiii @sudden tusk big fan of the dps
olive wraith
Oh hi!!! Big fan of the 57
undone flower
Madox is so handsome
jagged sorrel
is there any way of taking spear of bastion without completely fucking myself out of dps ?
smoky vale
no
verbal hill
hey guys, I'm a bit new to fury and a bit new to reading logs. when I go through the top couple hundred parses for heroic voidspide bosses, pretty much everywhere except vanguards it looks like thane is very dominant. is that just because of how much AOE there is in these raids? or is it misleading in some way? maybe its just the best for getting top parses but not the best on average? I thought slayer was a more preferred raiding spec but I'm struggling hard with my parses on slayer.
river nimbus
hey guys, I'm a bit new to fury and a bit new to reading logs. when I go through...
play w.e you want in heroic raid.
jagged sorrel
hey guys, I'm a bit new to fury and a bit new to reading logs. when I go through...
I feel like both deal the same dmg but thane is better defensively and way easier to play.
undone flower
is there any way of taking spear of bastion without completely fucking myself ou...
Play slayer, it’s not a big fuck myself to drop the left point
jagged sorrel
Slayer gets more value if you need to burst down ads faster but usually they live long enough for thane to get value
vast gorge
At what key level?
it was a 14
jagged sorrel
I just wanted to have it to lock ads in the same spot for vorasius mythic D: never thought I'd miss having spear
silent hornet
stupid non-warrior question (I may also be stupid) but why does my warrior have 7 sparks total but my alt DH only has 6
radiant plank
gotta do the world tour q on your DH
silent hornet
the one where you have to like pick from 4 options "do wqs", "kill world boss" ect ect?
silent hornet
nothing
only thing I can think is I did it before I was capped on catch up sparks so im now just missing one till next week
okay figured it out, I actually had to go talk to Liandrin at the sunwell to "skip the campaign" even though i had already skipped it, now i can get the quest
tepid beacon
do we use a rage potion on this xpac? didn't see mention on Wowhead or anything
winter shoal
Generally we use either light's potential or recklessness potions
radiant plank
default is lights potential, which is also completely risk free
molten venture
on fury I love recklessness potion, changes the dmg increase during rage from like 25% to 80% when mastery is your highest stat
tepid beacon
ty guys
tepid beacon
on fury I love recklessness potion, changes the dmg increase during rage from li...
gonna try this cheers
molten venture
gonna try this cheers
no worries, if you cant get mastery to be highest though use lights potential Id say, proccing it for haste is annoying youll just have to mash buttons so fast
tepid beacon
no worries, if you cant get mastery to be highest though use lights potential Id...
right now these are my stats could you crit these please? as in critique, not critical strike, but whatever you wanna do
sudden tusk
omg hiii <@110993922691477504> big fan of the dps
winter shoal
I think walhe meant the stat rating values, e.g. 400 crit, 600 haste, 800 mastery, etc
if you mouse over the % value
tepid beacon
oh sorry,
crit strike 599
Haste 943
Mastery 549
Vers 417
winter shoal
Yeah so reck pot will give you haste
winter shoal
You probably want to use light's potential instead
tepid beacon
ok yea been running with that
bitter palm
holy doo hickey stats
winter shoal
Also probably want to farm some M+ for gear that has a bit more mastery and less vers
radiant plank
Also probably want to farm some M+ for gear that has a bit more mastery and less...
Farming seat gloves now
tepid beacon
will do that, ty!
winter shoal
Farming seat gloves now
Get them from vault, easy
radiant plank
Get them from vault, easy
I got given myffic tier gloves
tepid beacon
you can't get myth gear in runs can you, only vault? afaik you can only get hero
winter shoal
you can't get myth gear in runs can you, only vault? afaik you can only get hero
Correct
jade fjord
I've heard sth about adamantite sharpening stones from TBC or so performing better then oils? Does anyone has more infos?
sullen jay
i think its better to ask on server for classic
radiant plank
Guys go vote to ban crown p1 from wclogs parses
burnt oxide
Imma pad it
radiant plank
only if you go vote to remove adds from neltharion
I did
Also voted to ban adds from salhadaar
sudden tusk
yeah void drops
radiant plank
wclogs would discount dmg done to them
dapper goblet
warriors wanting all the adds to not count...their niche..
quiet geyser
Strategy
Will make fury look even worse from public perception
(And real perception cuz fury deadass sucks)
sudden tusk
warriors wanting all the adds to not count...their niche..
its so we look even worse on wcl so the devs have to buff us
4d chess
dapper goblet
devs plural
warm crag
its so we look even worse on wcl so the devs have to buff us
madox go build suicide bomber bebop
sullen jay
come on warrior aint that bad
dapper goblet
wild bebop change
sudden tusk
nah man 20% self damage is very funny
dapper goblet
take 20% damage
dapper goblet
still dumb
sullen jay
lets switch to paladins then
warm crag
come on warrior aint that bad
you are brought to 1 fight in the raid as arms and then benched for the rest
dapper goblet
pocket ults you and you get away at 1 hp
sudden tusk
well if you went like mystic reverb and spirit lifesteal + witchmail for more res
sudden tusk
could be net positive
sullen jay
surely they had to do it since we all switched to avatar race for healing racial
sudden tusk
other annoyance is echoshard nerf
if anything i was thinking about going punchbop
since grapple is partial light melee damage too
grapple bomb upper grapple heavy
sullen jay
you are brought to 1 fight in the raid as arms and then benched for the rest
midnight is so easy, guilds will clear mythics even without benching warriors
radiant plank
tell that to Liquid..
sullen jay
at least its one expansion where they didnt cater fully to top 3 guilds lol
warm crag
midnight is so easy, guilds will clear mythics even without benching warriors
every expansion is
i dont care about killing myth bosses 28 weeks into turbo boost though
sudden tusk
xeos should be playing pink. but goober end bosses 2dk req blow up
dapper goblet
well i should be pink but we have an hpal for some reason
molten venture
right now these are my stats could you crit these please? as in critique, not cr...
I go by these as what to aim for. And look at the rating so how high the stat is not the percentage to compare
dapper goblet
that guy was in for paladins only
beav on hpal
no way to know hpal would be this grief
but also blood dk just good now so i could still play pink
but already too late
molten venture
ah cant link, go on murlok site
sudden tusk
blood dk damage
dapper goblet
sometimes your bear does 100k on the first egg burn
thne next pull he's almost 300k
radiant plank
Crazy
sullen jay
repeat after me boys:
Get 3,2k rio in m+ > clear HC raid > Make ALT > Repeat
radiant plank
tomato guys gdruid did more egg dam than their arms
dapper goblet
yeah warrior is grief on the bird i'll admit it
warm crag
does good on phase that you hold dps on and does shit on phase where damage matters
curious
dapper goblet
you know it will be the same fate next tier too
better hope prot is some how worse than dps warrior
warm crag
there will be no next tier
dapper goblet
so you can atleast be in
warm crag
log into deadlock
young swan
yeah warrior is grief on the bird i'll admit it
was grief on alleria too
sudden tusk
yeah were gonna get some sick nasty ST buffs after nerfing our aoe in 0.5 right? 
radiant plank
just wait for the final patch notes
young swan
think of the last 3 lura is the least grief? but only if you play arms
remote bobcat
log into deadlock
how active is the playerbase?
sudden tusk
arms i think is decent on alleria
warm crag
its a game in a fake closed beta and on the steam charts
sudden tusk
deadlock playerbase is fine
sullen jay
how active is the playerbase?
im seeing same people after +13 keys
warm crag
me when i have to respond to anything and everything even if it wasnt even remotely targeted at me
remote bobcat
im seeing same people after +13 keys
dawg 🥀 read
dapper goblet
only arms i've seen recently on sylvanas is swordish
sudden tusk
+15 midboss Gun required
dapper goblet
and it looked like he was doing ok damage
sudden tusk
ill be playing it tonight, but we only just started prog
young swan
only arms i've seen recently on sylvanas is swordish
incarnates warrior played it as well
but he did less than apook
warm crag
need some good guilds to kill windchime with arms
dapper goblet
krill issue then
warm crag
what do we think of abrahams disqualify
young swan
p3 he did like 4m more than apook but less over the fight
dapper goblet
4mil is pretty fuck big
warm crag
doing it was fine just saying "no" to bug abuse after someone clocks it 10 seconds in and trying to pull it in a second match is insane
young swan
4mil is pretty fuck big
yeah quite large
sudden tusk
the funny part is they JUST got a shopify sponsorship
dapper goblet
i'm sure you can do some stuff in p2 where you SS for more dam too
young swan
thats why im saying i think on lura arms could be pretty good but also like
sudden tusk
so doin that shit on live was greif
young swan
just play a different class
radiant plank
idk how arms works these days
it fucking dies
sudden tusk
why sweping strikes when passive sweeping strikes from green class
young swan
idk how arms works these days
u can have 100% uptime on 100% damage SS
its kinda cracked as fuck
dapper goblet
it fucking dies
radiant plank
äh
warm crag
u can have 100% uptime on 100% damage SS
lura hotfix theres 2 of them stacked ontop of each other
dapper goblet
u can have 100% uptime on 100% damage SS
SS is 100% of the damage now?
what the helly
warm crag
yeah idk what the point of it being charge based is now anyways
sudden tusk
you cant talented it to
warm crag
just make it a passive talent if we have 100% uptime of this shit
sudden tusk
just make SS passive like hunter and activate it for 3target
radiant plank
just make it a passive talent if we have 100% uptime of this shit
Its only 91% with PM
young swan
SS is 100% of the damage now?
yeah its fucking gross
warm crag
clunky ass minigame to hold sweeping strikes for when your wb charges expire
warm crag
Its only 91% with PM
rounds up to 100 if you cant read
dapper goblet
was op af and hit 2 other targets
radiant plank
rounds up to 100 if you cant read
how does 91 round up to 100
dapper goblet
i never liked it being passive though which is a hot take perhap
sudden tusk
somehow colossus arms ends up being one of the most complicated melee specs in the game
radiant plank
if you cant read
I cant read
dapper goblet
is charge weaving still a thing for arms
warm crag
I cant read
then it rounds up
young swan
these 2 things together might be the most disgusting combo ive ever seen in my life
radiant plank
damn
dapper goblet
no swingtikmer
only class in the game still using a swing timer like its 2004
radiant plank
rets are larping a swing timer
dapper goblet
arms has those 2 talents and still sucks on 2 target 
sudden tusk
gotta love going into a pull and the differance between sitting at 25 rage and 100 the entire opener is a single windfury proc
coarse nest
😂 real
young swan
i think arms kinda owns on 2tar no?
warm crag
it do
young swan
3target is better which is funny
coarse nest
With the talent yes
sudden tusk
theres too much garbage pad in the raid im just playing arms from now on
our burst isnt high enough for it to matter
dapper goblet
idk i told swordish to play arms on dragons
but top boss dam was still fury on that fight
not sure the lore
young swan
@dapper goblet they put your goat on crack and now it makes arms do 250k dps on 3 target
radiant plank
idk i told swordish to play arms on dragons
Not one arms warrior is playing for boss dam on that fight
sudden tusk
instead of hit boss
radiant plank
Beloren Egg dam
thorny zenith
What key level should I swap to arms?
radiant plank
Impostor
radiant plank
What key level should I swap to arms?
2
dapper goblet
<@139241006355841026> they put your goat on crack and now it makes arms do 250k ...
fob is the only thing worse than tom
sullen dove
better hope prot is some how worse than dps warrior
thought dps warrior is op tho
dapper goblet
shit sucks now
radiant plank
shit sucked in DF
misty edge
Delete warrior
radiant plank
fuckass 80 rage ww
dapper goblet
Delete warrior
y u no take defensive
sudden tusk
2tar fob on Kurog owned
misty edge
y u no take defensive
Impossible
sullen dove
heroic week poggers
sudden tusk
sudden tusk
didnt fishy optomize that out
radiant plank
now u press cleave on ST
Hey thats gone in .5
sudden tusk
also thats only for collo rn no?
sudden tusk
or 3 stacks of collat
radiant plank
yeah
sudden tusk
slams is actualy a lot of fun in M+
sudden tusk
way better then thane
sullen dove
altho like 50x more kills as fury
im sure arms supremacists will rise in the coming weeks
i know i am perma arms that boss now
crude crater
:[
young swan
yeah think fury stinks rn
sullen dove
yea i prolly am just by virtue of not wanting to recraft all the time
sullen dove
and arms is just the entire rest of the raid
dapper goblet
yeah probably no one relevant was playing arms the first 2 weeks so very possible it was protspec level people
iykyk
sudden tusk
eroka would have played it more but he was past those bosses before it got buffed 2x
radiant plank
altho like 50x more kills as fury
im gonna play arms on dragons for boss dam nxt week
since I got a r3 on this weeks kill
sullen dove
it prolly would go hard
sullen dove
yea i mean i think with like super insane bdk mass grips u could prolly play like 95% optimal single target and still hit all the adds
tho like good luck
coarse nest
Slayer 2T on dragons is probably owning
sullen dove
think colossus too epic for that tho
sudden tusk
still so mad i lost rank 1 on voracius becuase i got the first add set AGAIN
blow up boss
voracius might be the only real stinker
in the entire raid list
sullen dove
at a certain point u prolly can just kill all adds in melee and say fuck it
with good knocks or just tanking the pools
but yea
coarse nest
Warrior bros realizing arms has depth still
sullen dove
v annoying boss to get first set
coarse nest
sudden tusk
now the only real question is whats craft #3 cloak?
dapper goblet
think we only get 2 add sets
sullen dove
yea that also
bitter palm
tell EVERYONE
sullen dove
skipping 3rd set saving like 30-40 seconds
bitter palm
to not touch adds EVER
sullen dove
probably more than possible now
bitter palm
and play colossus on every fight
sullen dove
critcake motion
bitter palm
tmy
radiant plank
think we only get 2 add sets
why the FUCK is my guild still going to enrage on our 3rd reclear
coarse nest
Tmy could get away with that
dapper goblet
oh wow
bitter palm
tmy tindral kill moment
sullen dove
yea maybe tmy asks for it
critcake doesnt but it just happens cuz no one in his raid ever does aoe
bitter palm
4856 pis log not invalidated somehow
coarse nest
That’s how Tmy can send you a private log in DMs that’s 600k above the next guy on gallywix
bitter palm
manual log edit
coarse nest
sullen dove
powerful
bitter palm
manual log edit and friends at wclogs so it doesnt get removed
sullen dove
echo rapids
3 easy steps
coarse nest
😂
sullen dove
man spent an hour on myth imperator pug
just cant fathom how ppl cant do mickey mouse 2 mechanic boss
17 weeks into the season
dont think its even worth tryina get vaults on my alts
dim spindle
me when i have to respond to anything and everything even if it wasnt even remot...
Such a bully
sullen dove
2.5 hours vulgar alt run on m chimerus yesterday also didnt kill that
very impressive
sudden tusk
i killed alleria in heroic on my alt last night
dim spindle
Reported to the mods. MOOOOODSSS
sullen dove
i mean heroic is kinda easy too just pretty heavily depends on tanks in p2
sudden tusk
every pull 3 people wouldnt make the jump in p3
sullen dove
and having dks ofc ig
dapper goblet
I tried pugging march heroic and that place is literally impossible
sullen dove
lmao
echo rapids
Ran H spire pug in my DK, lost roll on vorasius trinket to a paladin with myth puzzle box and H gaze
unborn delta
hof still open on hero falls
sullen dove
yea they said it was gonna be like insane cuts
echo rapids
Fun times
sullen dove
but not better than the previous 2
from last 2 days
ig only 3 ppl instead of normal 4 idk
up like 1.8mil this week tho cant complain
sullen dove
i bought them man
dry hawk
So happy thane isn't nerfed yet, but I do wish clap spam was different. At least we don't have to use slam
sullen dove
hesright
sudden tusk
have to request a payout every week becuase they dont wana do over 1m
dim spindle
Who needs augment runes when you can just rent an auggie dwagon
echo rapids
Someone had to walk so they can run
sullen dove
yea i did one every day last 3 days lol
600k increments
their fault if they get mad 
sudden tusk
i blastetd every run i was in
odd vapor
is there an addon for Lua? boss
unborn delta
is this unsaved hero runs?
sudden tusk
so hopefully i ll get more
sullen dove
yea
unborn delta
in collective or smth
sullen dove
oh my god man
hell naw
collective skull emoji
mine wit lumora but idk eithers fine probably
dim spindle
Augmentation dwaggies make my epeen swole
unborn delta
idk who that is
sullen dove
but dude my main warr's run
3 priests in the group
0 dispell on paladin bubble
one went early
other 2 afk
i just do fucking nothing for 10 seconds straight after sending all my cds
just go next man
coarse nest
I can’t imagine doing Lura without Larry calling the order in my ear
unborn delta
my guild still doing chim and vaelgor splits 😐
unborn delta
yea the stupid fuckass gazes
sullen dove
aint no way stare is that good
sudden tusk
chim splits sure
sullen dove
isnt m+ feather better for most
unborn delta
burning my heroic lockouts
sudden tusk
just have 3 geared characters 4head
sudden tusk
im somehow scooping upgrades in heroic sales
unborn delta
waste of time too bc this week we didnt get a lockout so had to kill first 4 😭 wasted like 90 mins of our raid time
sudden tusk
guy didnt want 4/6 hero gloves and just left lmao
sullen dove
90 min on 4 heroic bosses 😭
unborn delta
yea idk what the fuck our officers were doing you didnt hear from me though
im bench rest of season at least
sullen dove
im excited to hit the elf more tonight
actually enjoying progging a somewhat late boss "early"
im gonna be so sad if i dont end the fight owning dmg as arms
but idk i watched video it seems there is some decent 2target execute cleave
unborn delta
gonna get a 100parse as #14 on the meter
sullen dove
but depends whose assigned to do that but surely i am/can just do it anyway
def not gonna be 14th
if we break like.. top half that'll be a win tho
still ending p1 like top 5 minimum
sometimes higher
unborn delta
#10 arms owns 😎
sullen dove
just fall quite a bit in p2 but still like middle of the pack on boss damage 
just bad on everything else
coarse nest
dapper goblet
but depends whose assigned to do that but surely i am/can just do it anyway
those ghost adds are a nothing burger
dapper goblet
just cleave onto boss if its more boss dam
sullen dove
yea i mean they do nothing but they in execute phase
the p1 adds are tanked on those no?
dapper goblet
the ghosts that you shoot with the purple arrow no
sullen dove
just figure if they die faster the assigned add killers can hit boss sooner
dapper goblet
the ones dksg rip
unborn delta
blizzards solution to melee hostile fight design is gonna be to just give every class a ranged spec
sullen dove
yea after the first jump first 2 adds spawn and like in the vid i watched at least it says mostly ranged focus it
but surely arms gaming
idk
dapper goblet
you hit boss
sullen dove
at least until main boss in exe phase then idc bout that thing
supposedly tho boss phases at like sub 50 if done right so im sure wont take too long
weve only gotten like 65 ish% but prolly ton of ppl dying early in p2
dapper goblet
if the boss is phasing at 50% or above you missed arrows
thats like the biggest thing in p2
sullen dove
yea
vague stump
anyone got an updated sim sheet with arms vs fury? like the one at the start of the season?
sullen dove
hard to tell if thats happening seems like the melee at least are always on top of boss but idk if ranged have to go out of their way to do so too
or they just kinda chill
dapper goblet
i believe they need to yes
you can cheat to the right and always get picked
so you can assign the non goobers to get it most hte time
dapper goblet
perhap
sullen dove
o range arrow baitable? kinda pog
dapper goblet
idk if its like confirmed but its like a 80% success rate if you are furthest right
sullen dove
W APOOOK
dapper goblet
1 of 1
sullen dove
so powerful
sudden tusk
i set trends on one armed banded
only thane player to its the only thing people picked
sullen dove
yea i think this is accurate yeah
dapper goblet
he got tank sandwiched on the kill
sullen dove
https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-charging-up-bite-7NUDCypKavZzkQGyp9
bear does more than cat here
misty edge
i was told to do p1 damage cuz pedo ele cant do damage
sudden tusk
lmao
misty edge
its over - thats all that matters
sudden tusk
arent you suffering on windchime rn
dapper goblet
he will be yes
dapper goblet
we killed the bird then spent 20 minutes setting up all the dogshit m33k aura stuff and symbol map
glad they fucked WA's
woohoo blizord
dapper goblet
wish I could have a funny name in details
or hover over people doing damage and see what it was they wre doing
sullen dove
yea my guilds best pull into p3 we only removed 35 energy instead of ur 50
must whip arrow holders into shape
dapper goblet
self ping with the arrow
makes it easier
delaying the phase also fuck hurts
whole raid gets the arrow dot for like 15 seconds
heavy folio
do we benefit from agility that dragonflight augment rune gives?
sudden tusk
Big nerffs just in time @dapper goblet
dapper goblet
I have no idea what that bottom stuff is but i'll take it
hybrid cargo
so ive just been directed tobring my warr to mythic, been looking at parses and suchand jsut have a general question about mountain thane vs slayer on some bosses, my Slayer build sims higher on patchwerk bosses and i kinda assumed that first 2 would quote on qute be st but does that switch flip as soon as there are 3+ targets for any shot spate of time on a boss to being better in thane? also if the thane nerf goes through next week is fury cooked?
quiet geyser
Thane nerf got reverted
hybrid cargo
also only getting like 2 -3 seconds of 3+ targets on Vorsarius so like would i just go slayer in that case?
quiet geyser
Slayer and thane sim pretty damn close, hence most people playing thane for everything cuz it can pad easier
hybrid cargo
hmmm im getting like almost a 10% swing in favor of slayer on my top gear, could that just be a stat distribution thing?
winter shoal
Can you link the sims
sullen dove
slayer def shouldnt be 10% higher than mt on a single target sim
but yea i mean thane started rly strong early season in raid when everyones gear was lower and adds lived forever but its kinda falling off p hard now
slayer would be like infinitely better if bladestorm cdr was less rng reliant but you can still play both somewhat equally well on most bosses
hybrid cargo
i just ran it again with some tweaks and its only about a 2k difference now, for pure st builds https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5hgM51ZCt1sawiwQQLgWA4
sullen dove
yea that sounds more correct
hybrid cargo
so thats alot better than before, my gear is a lil whack atm
sullen dove
its mostly personal preference which u play
hybrid cargo
i didnt realiz how much mast the pvp neck had before crafting last week
sullen dove
i think thane still slightly has the edge on fallen king if u get the super late sets
should pmuch only slayer vorasius i think
and u can kinda do either/or on first boss and chimerus tho know bladestorm cdr may be the death of you on those bosses
strange drift
any tips for vanguard fight on mythic
sullen dove
if you dont either get super lucky or just hard hold every add set
play arms hopefully
hybrid cargo
i did slayer on imp and parsed a 4 lol
sullen dove
did u bladestorm every add set with cds
hybrid cargo
i coulda done better
sullen dove
probably
hybrid cargo
is that just the way for that parse
sullen dove
on account of the 4 thing
but yea
its harder to parse on bosses like that
when the entire raid does omega more aoe
with like 15-20+ ilvl
kinda just have to be greedy and try to be the one to do the most dmg to em first
hybrid cargo
i also got dispel at some bad times seems like death to parse if you arent first dispelled and have to go far
quiet geyser
is that just the way for that parse
Parsing is literally always how hard did you hits adds. The fury way of life
hybrid cargo
its just jarring to go from UH to fury lol
sullen dove
yea u kinda hope either everyone else moves or they dispell melee first
but losing boss uptime is def awful for fury
dk doesnt rly care about that u have no cdr to upkeep
unkempt oasis
I hit adds too hard and get tank bustered
hybrid cargo
appretiate the tips 😛
hybrid cargo
praying for myth weapon tmrw
hybrid cargo
sullen dove
i would kinda enjoy a myth weapon but also idk cuz then id have to wear a 272 crafted cape or something
which is only 4 ilvl lower than what i have now so prolly still better to do so
just hoping for a good weapon ig
full 3vault mythic tho sure i get something
young swan
also only getting like 2 -3 seconds of 3+ targets on Vorsarius so like would i j...
theres hardly any ST difference between MT and slayer aoe builds but thane is 15% better on aoe damage, slayer is also just kinda inconsistent compared to thane and has to make concessions if you need a bit more add damage
dapper goblet
swordish crafting for week 12 instead of biggest uppy for prog
sullen dove
wym theres like nothing to craft anyway
getting myth weap and cape probably is the best thing for me rn
if it happens
but contingent on getting the myth weapon
and a not dogshit one ideally
paladins weapon given to bdk which i guess better for this week not sure if he actually ended up using it but i know i wouldntve until i could craft 2nd embell
sullen dove
oh nah not the loa ring
yea seen ur guild discord names
if ur under 281.69 trolled ur crests
lol
loot fed piggies
sullen dove
only fed 3 pieces of raid gear btw
1 being a boe
just the most ethical crests spent in the galaxy
dapper goblet
always punished for being ethical
modern ingot
So what builds are we playing in 12.05 after the doggie doo doo changes ? in M+ and raid ? Slayer ?
sullen dove
nothing is changing pretty much
slayer loses a little bit of single target and maybe MT actually better at st lol
but both are effectively identical in m+ as they are now
unkempt oasis
So the changes are good. Fantastic.
sullen dove
well
all the shit ones got reverted
still small changes like losing non sd single target reaps
modern ingot
Not all shit ones
sullen dove
but bladestorm buff partially makes up for it
the 2 main awful ones got reverted
tclap nerf and single target sudden death reap nerf
frank dawn
eh, idk I'd say all the shit changes were reverted. Puts the spec in a better place to be tuned
but will blizzard actually tune warrior...prob not
sullen dove
i think the aoe reap thing is pretty good/cool and i like it being on rampage a lot
means its more concentrated around your cds to potentially have a slightly higher burst window in cds
cuz your ramps are 50 rage so u just hit that many more that could proc reap while reck/ava are up
its just yea lose like 4% single target off the st bloodthirst reaps
and only gain like 1-2% back on bladestorm buff
which is why i think slayer fury is still losing st dmg next week
but i mean it'll play the same and be fine
frank dawn
yeah the big bladestorm buff and rampage reaps I think will be nice. and like...surely they're gonna buff fury single target right? right?
unkempt oasis
Totally...
frank dawn
spec is absolute dog shit if it's not padding on adds, idk lol
keen kindle
which is only 4 ilvl lower than what i have now so prolly still better to do so
Dude I just want heart or solarflare
unkempt oasis
Here is the trick
keen kindle
My trinkets are so bad
sullen dove
truth nuke
frank dawn
so ez
sullen dove
i could do literally anything in my last guild
frank dawn
problems solved
unkempt oasis
My guild calls for warrior to be nerfed after every fight
sullen dove
sandbag more
need to bribe archi into pulling an azortharian
purposefully give us worse builds so our better spells get buffed
"yeah raging blow is rly good bt is bad i guess we have to buff bloodthirst"
edgy widget
sullen dove
swap to bt build and do top st
edgy widget
"yeah raging blow is rly good bt is bad i guess we have to buff bloodthirst"
PvP players already do this enough tbh
maiden sphinx
Are the changes to ww casting rend still happening next week?
stiff maple
Idk why blizzard wants rend to exist so bad lol
unkempt oasis
"We want to prune specs"
"Oh warrior, here is rend."
edgy widget
Are the changes to ww casting rend still happening next week?
if we're talking in terms of reset week, 12.0.5 is week after next
e.g. not this coming reset tomorrow, but the next one after on the 20th
maiden sphinx
if we're talking in terms of *reset week*, 12.0.5 is week after next
e.g. not th...
Yeah meant got 12.0.5 my b
edgy widget
Idk why blizzard wants rend to exist so bad lol
honestly, having us push Rend isn't a problem, so much as how they tried to shoehorn it in with no support whatsoever
I mean I don't think Fury needs the button, but pushing it once every 20ish seconds is a big ol' who cares
stiff maple
Just doesn't feel like it fits i guess
They just make the button exist with no support or synergy or like anything
edgy widget
what makes me care is when pushing that button interrupts the rest of the rotation - they could have saved it by doing literally anything to integrate it... like generating rage or refunding rage, granting a little bit of haste, or reducing the rage cost of the next Rampage, or whatever
edgy widget
Yup, and there's literally already a talent that does exactly that, which they could have easily fit into Fury, they just didn't bother
it was just half-assed implementation, that's really all it comes down to
and I mean it happens in a big development cycle - lots to do, only so many things to focus on, you gotta prioritize and some shit slips through the cracks
unkempt oasis
Like arms
maiden sphinx
what makes me care is when pushing that button interrupts the rest of the rotati...
Yeah this is what sucks ass
maiden sphinx
Playing slayer at all its awk to cast rend it definitely feels like ass when thane auto applies and forgets rend even exists
sullen dove
the auto apply rend only applies to fury doesnt it
unkempt oasis
tuning and design are two entirely different things
Do you enjoy arms design?
sullen dove
cuz its for improved whirlwind specifically
like cleave wont be applying rend i think
unkempt oasis
It just isnt for me
edgy widget
Do you enjoy arms design?
I mean generally yeah; there are a few things I think could be better, but a most of them are being addressed in 12.0.5
sullen dove
lmao nvm @dapper goblet
dapper goblet
correct goober
edgy widget
- I don't really like Crushing Combo, just the idea of ignoring your rotational effects to spam 1 button over and over again is antithetical to me... but it is being reduced from 4 -> 3 in 12.0.5, which is better, even if it's not my personal preference
- I don't like Ravager, it's an extra button not represented in Slayer, which is completely superfluous to the gameplay. It could easily just be a passive effect somewhere and have the exact same result
- I don't really like builds that aren't talented into Execute still trying to use an Execute that's just less optimal - this is also being addressed in 10.2.5 though
- I think the first tier of the talent tree is too inflexible, and I don't really like Colossus being forced into Sudden Death, just as I don't like Executioner's Precision being de facto required for Avatar