fury

[small tinsel]

how do u do raidbots to see the breakdown of number of casts like youve done on here please which 1 do u select ?

[vague valley]

whats pref simc for fury ?
patchwerk / dungeon slice

[radiant plank]

patchwerk

[fickle vector]

looking to recraft my 2h, what two stats should i go with? Crit master?

or just sim and see whats best for my loadout

[ancient olive]

do you guys have any way that you try to specifically sim for aoe ?

[compact knot]

You can sim or just default haste mastery

Shouldn't matter much

[compact knot]

5 mins 1 target patchwork sim

[fickle vector]

Thanks im just over thinking secondary stats i think lol

[compact knot]

It's a good thing to overthink about tbh

Because they do matter a bit depending on spec, fury though doesn't particularly care aslong as it's not vers

Just stack crit haste and master and ur good

[signal falcon]

People way overrate how important they are compared to just getting ilvl

[dim spindle]

Isn't this how AIDs got started

[trail bane]

Do they? Sure you want to get a certain spread of secondaries but the ones you craft on your items isnt going to matter that much

Since you will most likely be able to compensate on other items

If you are just blindly going for the items in the bis list then crafting haste/mastery is the way to go for sure.

But if you craft crit/haste on your weapon because you plan on using it in arms as well then you can just get a different ring than Platinum Star Band with more mastery to make up for it

And you are basically at the same point

Its much more important to look at roughly how much you want of each stat than what exact stats are on what exact item.

I just realized you ment the opposite of what i thought you said, yes people do overrate it. lol.

[signal falcon]

At least you explained it for anyone who might think otherwise lol

[merry night]

im assuming i got reck pot w these stats right?

[compact siren]

probably not

% doesnt matter

total value does

[merry night]

shit i got 60 vers

been running lights but swapped gear out to fury and simmed it

[pulsar quest]

just sim it

[merry night]

just wasnt sure how close to 0 is 0

[pulsar quest]

sim flask pot combos

[hollow leaf]

#updates-midnight message

if you really want to you can sim it

[merry night]

yeah ive been running light, the sim says +60

fuck reck pot i aint buying it

[echo rapids]

I’ve seen the light boys, slayer arms plays so much better than fury

[merry night]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-after-all-weve-been-through-betrayal-backstabber-gif-5430341

[compact knot]

Me when I lie

[echo rapids]

Maybe I just haven’t internalized the bad buttons

[quiet osprey]

slarms also sounds better than slury or whatever

though honestly both short names are kind of ass hahaha

[compact knot]

It's pretty much just SD rng

Deadass ruins the spec

Otherwise it plays fairly decent in raid

[quiet osprey]

didn't they talk about normalizing rng and some new proc system or something

or am i tripping

before midnight

[echo rapids]

They forgot to prune and streamline warriors

Understandable, they spent all their time designing all 4 buttons for devourer

[sweet python]

Arms or fury for most of the raid?

[upbeat creek]

Recraft hunt off crafted wep on tues / craft second arcano weave or wait for 2 myth wep for second arcano weave ?

[oblique thistle]

Slarms in raid = I sleep
Slarms in m+ =

[oblique thistle]

Fury

Arms good on vanguard

[cold dune]

What do you guys use to make the logs for the Log review channel

[edgy widget]

there is a new proc system; it's still ppm but it works a lil diff than before

[sweet python]

What about M+

[slim coral]

Arms has the bigger output

but fury is still decent

[sweet python]

That’s about to hit 90 on the alt

[quiet osprey]

I've been loving die by the sword in M+, fury doesn't get any fat defensive like that for when you accidentally rip aggro of if you need to help the tank with intervene

[sweet python]

and haven’t really played it since s1 of tww

[oblique thistle]

Did a key yesterday. Tank died, aggro switches to me. Pop die by the sword, wait for tank to get res, tank gets aggro back
Pull saved

[gleaming crag]

Fury not even on the list wut?

[fast iris]

damn

[pearl jewel]

Dudes I didn't realize we still had anger management. That was like the whole reason I wasn't playing fury

[echo rapids]

Fury and arms are just not on there

[edgy widget]

Arms is ~56 and Fury is ~68

tanks are kind of inflated on those lists too fwiw

[quiet osprey]

due to all the mitigation/cd/off gcd stuff or?

[kind bolt]

aleria slayer or thane on st dmg?

i feel like everyone goes thane but to pad

so wanna know the st loss

[echo rapids]

Yeah prot warrior just casually slapping IP all the time off the gcd

[sullen dove]

Nothing worth padding on alleria anymore

slayer feels like only option tbh

[echo rapids]

The pad on p1 is an illusion, the big damage I feel like comes from cooldown timing on the voidwalkers when they have stacks

[vestal root]

cant pad on p1 if adds die just as they spawn

some classes just very "balanced"

[quiet osprey]

For boss damage I think it's slayer arms > thane >= slayer fury; but on mythic it's all thane

[echo rapids]

Devourer very balanced in a raid tier with low health add phases on many bosses 😂

[vestal root]

devourer being so above everyone and being easy and ranged

is ok

dont let warriors do well on adds

[echo rapids]

At least they arnt hyper mobile/s

[vestal root]

seeing people parse like a 1 on devourer and outdpsing oranges

[echo rapids]

gotta perfect time that collapsing star and then go afk

[vestal root]

damn what a requirement

[quiet osprey]

I'm pretty sure they are getting buffed in 12.0.5 as well, but imo people clown on how easy it is to play, timings are a fair bit of work (for ray and star)

[vestal root]

everything has a high skill ceiling but why is it ok that its so above so many classes and then they look at warriors or some other classes for nerfs like ????

[echo rapids]

I feel like once a week there is a “is a flat damage profile better than a burst one?” Conversation and devourer is the perfect example answer

[vestal root]

isnt devo pretty backloaded?

[quiet osprey]

UH as well

[vestal root]

i thought UH was pretty bursty considering its very CD heavy no?

[quiet osprey]

that's the point

both classes are very bursty

it's the better profile

to work around

[vestal root]

yeah its kinda

better to time stuff

[echo rapids]

It’s always better now with the way blizz makes fights

[pure echo]

My first heroic kill I played slayer because boss damage in p3 was real and needed. IMO if you have devourers and other classes that aoe without ST loss just play slayer bc you’re not gonna parse anyway lmao

[kind bolt]

real

[violet raft]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h7sgDExYANF1itn9oLZgDT

Why does my 285 sim higher than my 289 ?

[compact knot]

Dungeon slice + I'm assuming you put the 289 in your offhand, put the 289 in your mainhand

[violet raft]

ho no sorry this sim is old , my main hand was same ilvl

mb

[graceful mural]

To further back up your point it’s not just burst profiles that are strong being healthier for tuning but specs like Enhance who are burstier than average are also easier to tune when they’re underperforming than something flatter

[full rivet]

Are they still ruining Thane in .5?? Trying to decide if I gotta start gearing for Arms or not before I spam 10s

[tight roost]

Seems to have been reverted, but still not 100% i think

[full rivet]

Thank fuck. I have been trying to find a recent post that included that nerf online but coming up short. Hopefully that means I can stay Thane ❤️ I'unno what it is, but Thane just does it for me.

[supple axle]

Hello everyone, is there a haste % we should be getting to before going mastery?

[lucid crater]

I'm kinda confused about rotation priority for Thane. If you look at the websites posted for rotation, they all have differences in the priority list. If anyone knows which one is the most accurate that'd be nice. And specifically if there's any debate around prio for Rampage >=100 or >=110 rage.

[dense elbow]

WoWhead is the most new player friendly one

so go for that

[graceful mural]

Avoid overcapping is the highest priority whether it’s on rage or Thunder Blast charges.

6+ targets during windows: Don’t overcap > TB > BB > TC

6+ targets outside of windows:
Don’t overcap > BB > Execute > Rampage > TB to get cleave charges

[lucid crater]

What about prio on Thunderblast while Avatar is up? I don't believe that bit is on Wowhead

[graceful mural]

It is the most important thing during your buttons it extends the duration of Avatar

If you can get to a point where you get two Odyn’s Fury out during one Avatar that’s big dam

[graceful mural]

You can get there by basically just going Rampage > TB and then when you’re lower on rage after popping buttons you go Rampage > BB to fish for TB > TC still if it doesn’t hit

[dense elbow]

u didnt even look, did you

u can be honest

[lucid crater]

who me?

[graceful mural]

That photo’s single target I’m talking about when there’s 6+ targets only by the way

Thunder Blast jumps up to a way higher prio when there’s more than 5 mobs

[dense elbow]

My point is, it was stated "it is not on WoWhead, I cant find it", it is litteraly the first thing you see when looking up the rotation

[vapid spade]

are this the actual talent builds for the bosses?

[dense elbow]

check lorrrgs and steal their builds for each individual boss, if you dont want to do testing and jazz yourself

[placid palm]

Well logs often show people padding for a high log right?

[vapid spade]

ok

[dense elbow]

One would argue it shows the most efficent way to minmax your class strength and CDs

Myes

[lucid crater]

I'm not sure what you're refering to. I'm checking the wowhead rotation guide again, and nowhere does it say that TB is a higher prio than usual while Avatar is up or that it extends the Avatar (that I can find). I know it is on the Maxroll list, as I have checked all of the rotation lists due to being confused and frustrated frankly.

[dense elbow]

I just linked the picture of the ST prio list breakdown, where it tells you

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotations-multitarget

[lucid crater]

Oh. You're saying during CDs. My b. I just wasn't aware it extends Avatar till I read another guide

[warm crag]

knowledge of it extending avatar isnt really relevant ngl

only case where it vaguely changes how you wanna play is if you proc avatar outside of your avatar window and have a tb blast sitting

but thats not a real dps inc

[dense elbow]

It's a new guy tho, lets not try to muddle things with the fringe scenarios. The wowhead guide is good enough for 99.9% of cases, dont worry about it

[small tinsel]

Do u get more value from popping ur flask asfter Reckless and avatar or before ?

[dense elbow]

You mean pot? Just pop it at the same time

[lucid crater]

I stopped playing after season 1 of TWW. Slayer and burst windows was what I was used to. Left right around when Thane was buffed and people were using it for M+.

Went from 90+ parses on Hero bosses in TWW to feeling completely lost on Thane even after reading rotation guides in this xpac and pulling gray and blue parses in normal.

So I'm a bit of a fish out of water atm

[warm crag]

flask you wanna pop before the fight but i assume you mean potion just press it with your cds the half gcd difference wont make a dent

[dense elbow]

Sounds like a gearing issue, if you are greylogging

just get better gear as prio, you will be fine

[vast token]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-2665742826959095609

Gm Rend enjoyers

[lucid crater]

I did come in late. Its a kinda gear issue. The addon changes are kicking my ass a bit too. Had custom made WA I made myself. They just made info a lot more readable. Now I feel like I'm playing my UI than the game most of the time lol

[stoic star]

Anyone know of a PC Advice Discord? Thinking of buying this Desktop PC for a few grand but want like community advice on where i could save money or get something better for the price.

[sly bobcat]

R/pcmasterrace

Or buildapc

One of em does those all the time for ppl

[echo rapids]

I was lost til I started using ArcUI and got all my custom ready state glows back

[full rivet]

I've been struggling not to not smash Rampage as soon as I'm able to--instead of waiting until I'm over 100 rage. I understand it's higher prio to get the cd on Bloodbath and Thunderclap rolling than to Ramp again.

With the new addon landscape, is there an easier way to keep track of rage other than staring at my character frame? Better yet, is there a way to play a sound when I reach the 100 rage threshold?

[fallen ginkgo]

do u have a link?

[drifting token]

Sensei class resources gives you a rage bar wherever you want it, similar to an old weakaura

[full rivet]

This looks fantastic, thanks!

[graceful mural]

Really I mean maybe I’m just bad but I’ve been getting two Odyn’s Fury’s out off one Avatar and this is all intuitive no real data but that feels like something strong that the tier set gives you that maybe you couldn’t get otherwise and makes thunder blast prio better

especially when the AoE is uncapped those lightning bolts can rip

6+ targets specifically I think you pop buttons then the right way to do it is to go rampage tb rampage tb then at a certain point to rage fix you go rampage bb tb or tc and try to stretch avatar window into your second odyn’s fury with blasts

Maybe I’m wrong I’d be glad to be wrong

Rolling BB in between rampage and TC feels right as opposed to like Rampage TC BB during your window

[halcyon saddle]

yo warr players. what the reason for not ripping odyn's fury until after bladestorm in st opener?

[smoky vale]

does more damage

because you apply overwhelmed and you are in reck

[warm crag]

i mean its pretty much impossible to waste tbs in avatar unless you for some reason deliberately prio bb over tb when you have 2 charges of it

you're doing nothing different from just playing the wowhead rotation as listed

[warm crag]

while also proccing the 3x insta resets of bb literally on cd

[graceful mural]

yeah that's true

My understanding was when you pop your buttons at 6+ mobs TB and TC both get better than using execute with a whirlwind charge and 2-5 it's a little more murky

and one reason why is you get two odyn's fury bleeds on all 6 mobs at +20% avatar consistently when TB jumps over execute in the prio at 1 charge even

[formal jacinth]

Does anyone have a good macro for swapping bewteen def/bersker stance (that shows the right icon too)?

[worn shuttle]

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;
[known:386164]!Battle Stance;
[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

[formal jacinth]

literally perfect, thank you! @worn shuttle

[edgy widget]

no they're made up 🙄

[edgy widget]

however you trigger it, Avatar is still a CD, so it's still "during CDs"

[sick pagoda]

any info on when there should be more info on 12.0.5 changes/tuning? or just can hit at any time?

[desert dirge]

should I be actually casting rend in fury mountain thane, or just applying it with stomps?

Im looking at what the APL's doing

[hollow leaf]

stomps

can press it over rb on aoe

[desert dirge]

that 52 count of rend isnt manually casted in the above prio?

nah nvm its not in ability log

[small tinsel]

Hi all just after a bit of a sanity check please if possible ensure ive understood it correctly.

The Screenshot attached of my abilities is based on attacking the 5 target dummies.

So am i correct in thinking the best ability to press here should be BloodBath

Reasoning There's only 5 targets (Not 6) if the was i would press thunder clap
Equally id press Thunderblast over Bloodbath if that is avaialable

[winter shoal]

Yes that's correct

[small tinsel]

ace thankyou losing the will to live here keep messing it up gong back and forth to single and multi

[heavy dock]

i hope those are a mmo mouse and not numpad keybidings :D

[queen nymph]

which tooltip is correct for rampaging ruin? the talent says reduced damage beyond 5 targets, if you spec into it though- then rampage says it's reduced damage beyond 8 targets

[olive wraith]

5 I’m pretty sure

Its quite bad, I would suggest against it

[lusty rain]

Is there ever a time you don’t use avatar and reck together? As in am I cool to just rely on a macro that pops both?

[winter shoal]

That should be fine, their cds should always line up

[loud field]

how's slayer vs thane looking for raid/m+ in .5

[winter shoal]

🔮

Currently slayer probably better, but by the time the patch launches who knows

[queen nymph]

tried it in a +4 (i just hit 90 today so no tierset) i'm 251 and did 80k overall with it. doesn't seem like my damage breakdown is much different

[polar narwhal]

This is the suggested way. Just make sure you use Avatar AFTER Recklessness for extra Rage.

[supple axle]

Sorry, not sure I saw this anywhere. For Fury is there a % our haste needs to be at before moving to stacking mastery

[olive wraith]

It’s generally bad friend, trust

[olive wraith]

Nope, we just sim as we get gear

[queen nymph]

ye i was just saying i saw no difference lol, so i agree i'd rather not have to aim my aoe

[polar narwhal]

27% or higher unbuffed usually starts to feel like a good amount of Haste.

[supple axle]

Ty

[supple axle]

Ty

[supple glen]

can you check if warrior will get a buff

[olive wraith]

Again, we don’t aim for a certain %

[winter shoal]

Yeah I asked my uncle (John Blizzard) and he said to stop calling

[polar narwhal]

I am just saying that it is when it starts to feel good.

:|

[olive wraith]

It’s probably not super noticeable in lower keys. Mobs die fast

[winter shoal]

if you have 26% you WILL hate the game

[smoky vale]

[supple glen]

[winter shoal]

if you have 27% you will have more fun than you've ever had playing the game in your life

[polar narwhal]

I have 21 and I do hate it :)

[supple axle]

I apologize. Is this a polarizing topic

[polar narwhal]

Nah

[olive wraith]

So this one trick and anyone with 57 in their name will hate you

[polar narwhal]

57% haste it is

[olive wraith]

Not polarizing. Just we frown upon bad advice

[supple glen]

28% is like having perma warglaive hasteproc

[dense elbow]

28% is the sweet spot my brain has adjusted to be the baseline

So it be the perfect number to aim for at the least

[modest condor]

51% buff to of

[dense elbow]

The dream

[winter shoal]

Not really, there are sort of two schools of thought

1. If you really care about min/maxing, just sim your character and equip the items it tells you are best
2. If you can't be bothered to do that, just blindly equip the highest ilvl gear you have, preferring mast > haste > crit > vers

Most people in here take option 1), but option 2) is fine if you don't really care about optimizing much. Either way, aiming for specific amounts of a given stat isn't really worth considering

[polar narwhal]

[polar narwhal]

OF benefits from Whirlwind/Thunder Clap related talents.

I beg.

[dense elbow]

How about no, to that

[echo rapids]

I feel nothing when I press OF

[polar narwhal]

So pressing Yellow Whirlwind should not give Improved Whirlwind?

[winter shoal]

Slayer even more banned from taking ER

[olive wraith]

That’s because they killed it long ago

[winter shoal]

The sins of broodtwister ovinax

[dense elbow]

Only cause you are dead inside

Why ppl no use ER, I use it

[supple glen]

im only parsing bad bc im 25% haste

[winter shoal]

Not taking ER gives me something to complain about

[dense elbow]

I guess that is fair

[echo rapids]

Odyn would be embarrassed if he saw what it was now

[dense elbow]

Odyn is frozen in place tho

So no worry

[polar narwhal]

That's probably why

[echo rapids]

Frozen in embarrassment

[modest condor]

would you say he is a... frozen bozo?

[supple glen]

none of the buttons have meaning, its only about how many button anymore

[olive wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[supple axle]

OKAY 51% haste, got it

[smoky vale]

whats 57?

[modest condor]

it's like 67 but worse

[echo rapids]

Peak haste

[smoky vale]

🥀

[supple glen]

charging up odyns fury would have been a good idea for a hero spec for sure. better than tclap vs ww

[modest condor]

are we making odyns fury a charge attack?

[echo rapids]

Odyns fury sounds like a dope berserker frenzy with sick animations

[supple glen]

3s cast. no i mean buffing your shii like with bladestorm / sudden death

[echo rapids]

But it’s not

[modest condor]

odyns fury replaces bladestorm and turns it into a singletarget attack, hitting your target 16 times over 3 seconds

[polar narwhal]

Odyn's Demo

[supple glen]

every rampage adds a target to OF

[echo rapids]

Don’t cross the streams

[supple glen]

stacks last 30s

[keen kindle]

Damn good thing he's still a block of ice

When odyn gets unfrozen odyns fury will be good

[echo rapids]

You gotta count your blessings

[keen kindle]

See

If qe piss him off

Itll buff odyns fury

[supple glen]

dragons roar was the cooler shout anyway

[keen kindle]

Draggy roar was so cool

Then df killed it

Those crits felt good

[polar narwhal]

Dragon's Roar was a better name than Thunderous Roar :(

Double-whammy because they added Battlefield Commander in the main tree, as it would've been in there.

[olive wraith]

So what demolish should have been

[brittle crow]

goated

i want more charge moves

[echo rapids]

We could have had blademaster

[loud field]

ty friend

[strange drift]

recent thane conversation i had made me turn into a dwarf

hereby i apologise any dwarves

[small tinsel]

Spent all week preparing for raid tonight hoping to improve on my performance last week.

And I get constantly silenced during the main damage phases. Spend half the briefings trying to identify what ability I’m standing in and how to look out for it and avoid it but to no avail.

Come away from raid with 50-60% parses compared to my 85% last week.

Finally identified it was this friggin potion my sim advised me to use 🤦‍♂️ fml I’m an idiot

[hot shell]

Never seen a dual wielding dwarf paladin, thats a first

[strange drift]

i love my paladin cosplay

[hot shell]

If you cant beat them, join them

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[strange drift]

also have this one but i need to farm the jailer hammer i feel and find some kind of fucking helmet that isnt atrocious

[hot shell]

I tend to use that blue helmet with the horns on both sides, i think it was a Legion DK thingy.
But yeah, the faceplate that fits the shoulders look horrible
For a second i also thought u are running illidans eyemask. Great Tattoo choice

[icy whale]

do i craft a 2nd arcanoweave insight proc armor piece on wednesday? i have 2h and cloak rn

[quiet geyser]

asumming both ur 2h and cloak are embellished, you can only have 2

[smoky wraith]

quick question guys when i play slayer m+ on like 10+ keys do i apply rend ? or fuck it ?

[modest condor]

the more targets there are the better rend becomes

[dim spindle]

Odyn's Chilly

[smoky wraith]

ah okay so on big pulls might be worth to rend got it

ty !

[upbeat plume]

I think they kept the change coming in .5 soon ww will apply rend if you have improved ww specced

[dim spindle]

That Silvermoon Guard is sizing you up

[scarlet swift]

Is that enough?

[dim spindle]

Or maybe she's 'mirin. Go for it!

You know what they say about those Blood Elf gals

[wary salmon]

[scarlet swift]

Mirin? You an oldschool misc’er too?

[dim spindle]

No I'm just old

Not sure where it came from. Probably MTV or something

[hot shell]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-miring-fuark-gif-18026420

[scarlet swift]

Zyzz’er

Eyooo i knew it

[dim spindle]

No, I'm gellin. You gellin?

[dry hawk]

I played one in D&D

[scarlet swift]

Dude would be a billionaire if he was in his prime during tik tok

[dim spindle]

I dunno you'd have to be there I guess

[scarlet swift]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-fistpump-gif-4689886

[dim spindle]

Damn I'm old

[hot shell]

I dont think so.
He started the asthetic bodybuilding scene, but the dudes on there nowadays are too crazy and unrealistic 99% of the time

[dim spindle]

Literally crumbling to dust

[scarlet swift]

He’s be the Rogan, there a million podcasters but he’d be the peak of it in his genre

[dim spindle]

I thought that collarbone guy was who the cool kids follow nowadays

[strange drift]

legit hate the "fit" influencers

so fucking annoying

[hot shell]

Collarbone guy ?

[dim spindle]

Kids these days, with their tickin and a talkin

[strange drift]

don't do X do Y all the fucking time

[hot shell]

Idk who that is im too okd

[scarlet swift]

Think he means lat wings guy

[hot shell]

Old*

[dim spindle]

Yeah collarboneitus or whatever

Yeah that was it, latwingsitus

[scarlet swift]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-future-stock-boneitis-fry-shock-gif-11576248

I only know boneitus

[dim spindle]

Sounds very painful

Damn

[hot shell]

U really gonna make me Google that now ,

[dim spindle]

Is that neo Futurama? Don't remember that scene

[scarlet swift]

Its Futurama

Of

Og

[dim spindle]

Ah. Must be the alzheimers kicking in. It's sunsetting time

[scarlet swift]

I’m on mobile, i refuse to edit

[strange drift]

this reminds me i need to go back to my gym roots fucking easter made me go back to eating like a human

[scarlet swift]

80s guy comes back to make sleezy corporate decisions

[dim spindle]

Definitely deserves the boneitus

Ah hah

It's Clavicular

[compact knot]

I fw jestergooning

[dim spindle]

I legit couldn't remember either but just had a eureka moment. Unfortunately

The new generation is cooked 🙁 Except the ones somehow avoiding all that

I feel for them

Don't blame me though, I'm just an elder milennial. aka victim

[scarlet swift]

38 here, too old to care what anyone 33 and under do anymore

[dim spindle]

That's the spirit

Apathy is my middle name

[compact knot]

None of us are avoiding it

[scarlet swift]

Never tik toked, never insta’d, blizzard gives more fks about warriors then i do about that stuff, and they care zero

[compact knot]

Better to embrace it

[dim spindle]

Is it though?

Doesn't matter much in the long run I guess, AI will be our omnipotent overlords soon enough

If they aren't already

[compact knot]

Casemogged

[dim spindle]

I can't read Turkmenistanian

Double cryface emoji = invalid

That's all I can translate there

That woman on the right knows what's up

Anyway it's past my old man bedtime, be good kiddos

[tough ether]

Do we have any idea how the sims are looking next patch for both fury and arms?

[scarlet swift]

Sad

[strange drift]

is it that bad

[tough ether]

[edgy widget]

I don't even wanna watch to see what this is about, just gonna drop a blanket "please don't post political shit in here" - even if it's just meant to be memery, it's a world of shit I don't want to have to moderate

[olive wraith]

No

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure sims aren’t updated in case there’s any further tuning

[tough ether]

Wtf madox i watch your videos

[sudden tusk]

yippie

[olive wraith]

Don’t forget to like and subscribe

[edgy widget]

sims are updated, and if you search around, you'll have found plenty samples of my/fish/wahle/etc discussing the impact

[tough ether]

Ill look for them tomorrow at pc

[strange drift]

I just dont wanna be a 8% ap buff anymore in raid

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[olive wraith]

You’re not thought

[edgy widget]

good news then, cause you're only 5%

[olive wraith]

5%

[strange drift]

oh yeah

[tough ether]

Just lowkey wanted to know whats is looking better for m+ mostly lol

[young swan]

fury is about the same as now

arms getting better

shotgun demolishes

[olive wraith]

Thane is unchanged

[strange drift]

b-but 2swords > 1

[tough ether]

Colossus arms getting better? Or slayer? Or both?

[olive wraith]

Colo got huge buff

Demo cdr go brrrrrr

[tough ether]

Wat XD

Colossus already feels insane in m+ at least

Except ST lol but just have to pull shit into bosses

[young swan]

both but more on colossus than slayer

afaik

[olive wraith]

Demolish big stonks

[tough ether]

Oh I see

Also wtf

The highlight of this is the sheathing changes wat

[ripe kelp]

They did revert the clap nerfs iirc

[olive wraith]

Ya I just linked this for the Colo changes

[spare steppe]

until we see patch notes, i dont believe it

[twilit narwhal]

Do you guys recommend macroing Avatar + Reck on the same button?

I've seen a few top logs that do it

[olive wraith]

May as well

Same cd

[sullen dove]

pretty much always yes

no reason not to

[twilit narwhal]

I remember back in TWW S1 some people said no, but then I stopped playing fury

[olive wraith]

Ya things are diff now

Popping reck outside of range is bad, avatar now benefits from am

[ripe kelp]

I macro them together out of laziness

[earnest canyon]

you're a popular streamer and allround amazingly skilled guy:

What addon do you use to tell who pulled?

[sullen dove]

[earnest canyon]

[strange drift]

yes becouse the opener was reck>charge>ava-ramp

iirc

[supple axle]

Is this macro intended to use ww and tc

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Thunder Clap]Thunder Clap; Whirlwind

[sullen dove]

uh probably? but also idk why youd need a macro assuming u just swap between 2 talent builds for thane and slayer you can just... put each ability in the same place on both of the separate hotbars

[sullen dove]

.

[covert blaze]

some people use shared bars

[sullen dove]

idk like... why

[covert blaze]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:436707]Thunder Clap; Whirlwind

[sullen dove]

doesnt swapping talents default swap your bars

[covert blaze]

by default i think so yeah

[sullen dove]

just seems better

[covert blaze]

for specs yeah i dont think so for talents

[sudden tusk]

so when you make a NEW talent build it keeps the bars from the talents you have currently equipped

[sullen dove]

yea that happens which is good

[sudden tusk]

but you have to manually say "share action bars" per talent build

[sullen dove]

doesnt make u rebuild ur hotbars from scratch

but then changing hotbar on that new build is only for that build

[covert blaze]

using shared so you dont need to tweak/fix/remake bars multiple times for different talent sets or specs

less work

[covert blaze]

you use macros like that when needed and you dont need to rebind anything ever

[sudden tusk]

why are gloves so hard to get man

[sullen dove]

idk just swap thane and ww becomes tclap

[covert blaze]

i dont think it does, does it?

cause you have ww learned when you learn tc

[sudden tusk]

it doesnt

you still have both technically

[covert blaze]

idk binding your bars 10000 times sounds dented to me but you do you

[sullen dove]

i mean it does none of what anyones here describing lol

you have a slayer hotbar, make new talent build for thane, it keeps your current slayer bar when you swap to thane, then you replace ww with tclap and remove bladestorm

and now both bars are independant for each talent and swap every time u swap to them

the only thing that i think is true with what ur describing is if for some reason u want to like change what hotbar slot your rampage is on for 1 hero talent the change wont apply to the other

but idk who need to be doing allat

[covert blaze]

if you ever change anything

on shared action bars

it will change on every single one

[sullen dove]

sure but what are you changing thats realistically relevant

[covert blaze]

thats kind of th epoint

idk man

better to have the option than not

🤷‍♂️

[sullen dove]

better to not play with silly macros that dont work half the time too idk

[covert blaze]

ive never had a problem with macros

skissue

[sullen dove]

ive heard some complaints about like spear/roar macros in the past

having the correct known id's for both or whatever but just doesnt work sometimes

[covert blaze]

shrug

works on my machine

[sullen dove]

but fortunately removed roar cuz its ass

and spear also ass

so w

[covert blaze]

w

[dapper oriole]

Hello all,

Been in this Discord for a while now just haven’t poked around at all 😬

Just curious what Haste range I should be aiming for.

Fury MT. My current haste is at 16%. Too me that seems really low.

What are others finding?

[sullen dove]

if u use raidbots to sim best to just follow along that

but if you dont around there to maybe up to like 20-22% is fine

mastery should probably be higher than ur haste tho

numeric stat not %

well % will always be higher but caring more about the number

[lean heart]

almost

[sullen dove]

🙏 soontm

surely chad arms spec on boss yes

[lean heart]

no lmao

[sullen dove]

🙁

[lean heart]

odyns too fun for this im afraid

[edgy widget]

its a setting to use shared or split action bars like that

• while I also use individual sets, some players who use several different talent builds don't like adjusting the bars for each one every time they decide to change something, in which case using a common bar and a couple macros helps keep it more orderly

[lean heart]

maybe arms next boss

[sullen dove]

well next boss is not a maybe 💀

[sullen dove]

may i posit warbreaker/demolish every set of orbs

[covert blaze]

warriors try to kill the boss instead of padding challenge

[lean heart]

i see the vision but we're too close to kill i dont wanna swap anything around atm

[sullen dove]

yea ig makes sense just never felt like ive had to do any of that ever but yea, especially since i feel like theres no real reason to ever run more than 2 different talent builds on either spec for the most part, aside from potentially like raid cleave to m+ with a bit more utility stuff

[sudden tusk]

fuck a orb dam

kill boss

[sullen dove]

cant imagine col arms 2t just baseline doesnt already just own fury on boss dmg

[sudden tusk]

just bank a couple SDs right before orbs play slarms

big bang

[edgy widget]

kill orbs so the rest of your group focuses on boss dam

[sudden tusk]

yeah tell that to my 2x devour and dev evoker

[edgy widget]

ok gimme their number

[sullen dove]

devokers cant do every set

[edgy widget]

I'll call em up

[sullen dove]

deep breath only like a 45-50ish second cd

outside of that they're piss

[pearl sequoia]

all the aoe classes do aoe then we can all parse 50s

yay

[sullen dove]

hooray

[sudden tusk]

main issue is our damage profile

[dapper oriole]

Yeah my Mastery is at like 40%, so I think I’m good there.

[sullen dove]

yea should be fine

[twilit narwhal]

I'm just coming back in to playing fury, but after my first mythic log, I'm noticing people basically use Bloodthirst/Bloodbath all the time. During CD's people go Rampage -> Bloodbath -> Rampage -> Bloodbath or in AOE it's Thunderclap -> Bloodbath -> Rampage ...

When I'm playing I'm not getting every reset for Bloodthirst/Bloodbath to be able to flow into it, am I just playing wrong?

[keen kindle]

Raiders in general rn

Absoutlely disgusting pad tier this time around

[sullen dove]

bloodbath is every third gcd or so usually u cant bb > sometihng > bb basically ever

unless u have like haste pot in lust or somethin which u rly shouldnt have

but yea rampage and bb are your main 2 good buttons for both hero talents

[young swan]

warrior is a disgusting piggy class this tier

useless on every fight except 2

[sullen dove]

slayer bit more emphasis on execute and thane has thunderblast but will also prefer execute over sometihng like rb which u almost never hit on either hero talent unless have no other options

warrior is op

3 warrior tier

[young swan]

every tier is a 3 warrior tier according to @dapper goblet

[sullen dove]

i am dumpstermogging my raid on crown i feel like though

[young swan]

they are donkey then

[sullen dove]

basically top 3 guaranteed every p1 only on boss dmg, round middle of the pack p2 but i think p3 is when we will rise

not rly seen p3 more than like 5 seconds tho lol

[young swan]

lets go look at apooks p3

[sullen dove]

lets look at apook p3

[young swan]

hmm

hmmm

[sullen dove]

30 lol

also playing wrong spec?

[young swan]

11th on boss

there isnt a single parse playing slayer

u can be first i guess

[sullen dove]

i mean im playing arms slayer yes

[dapper goblet]

would have been a 3 warrior tier on dimmy dome if blizzard wasnt a bunch of

[young swan]

u can be bottom 5 in p3 instead of bottom 1 then

[twilit narwhal]

what addon can I use to track my casts?

[sullen dove]

yea i mean im not bottoming anything but truegi

[sullen dove]

3 blue man tier though

elemental shaman brrr

die

blue pig

[young swan]

yeah but we already established its because guild is dookie

[dapper goblet]

you know i was a rogue that tier

gooberfish

[sullen dove]

not playing blue when its most op its been

[dapper goblet]

so i cant be flamed for that one

[sullen dove]

gg

[dapper goblet]

had to play rogue for the 3% dr

[sullen dove]

have we thought about i am just himothy

[dapper goblet]

cuz ours was on vaca

[sullen dove]

or is that not up for interpretation

[young swan]

apook is better

[sullen dove]

right...

cluegert

some first kill of vanguard

wait whos that other warrior in that guild

[misty edge]

forced brown. flamed for being brown

[sullen dove]

he seems kinda cool

[sullen dove]

rise up against management

[sudden tusk]

Apook caged

you'll find me at the petting zoo

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-gif-27111274

[misty edge]

would rather be benched

[dapper goblet]

apook loves warrior

doesnt let me play it

[sullen dove]

oinkmaxxer 5000

[sweet python]

Just started gearing the warrior. Anyone have recommendations on best guides/videos for raid specs and rotations

[olive wraith]

Read the wowhead guide, Madox has a few videos

[sullen dove]

think u on warrior would resemble a certain lolcow quite a bit

out of practice old man yea or nay

[dapper goblet]

i'd be better at warrior than i am at other things still

[sullen dove]

prolly

who tf actually playin a dk

like for fun

[dapper goblet]

didnt play warrior for a minute in DF until sark in abberus

came back and twerked on people

[sullen dove]

bootylicious

[dapper goblet]

frost is fun

[sullen dove]

sark was cool

[dapper goblet]

frost in jailer tier

coommaxxing

[sudden tusk]

couldnt be me cuz im the goat

[smoky vale]

hey xeos wanna do 19 nexus

🙂

[dapper goblet]

i'm not a freak that pushes keys

(anymore)

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-chained-up-chained-gif-67266779391248431

[fluid cedar]

are nexus point rings phat

[sullen dove]

they p good but not like insane

can sim em

[keen kindle]

The crazy people in archeus

[sullen dove]

do not speak of them

[keen kindle]

So toxic I rerolled warrior

[sullen dove]

morgan ladimore reference

[keen kindle]

peak character

[undone flower]

who

[sullen dove]

see he mispelled acherus as archeus but thats the sword u get for finishing his quest in classic

[keen kindle]

and the restored 1h version for retail

[undone flower]

I didn’t know you need a shower that much

[sullen dove]

[undone flower]

with me

[sullen dove]

[lean heart]

do you ever hit cleave on 2 targets when youre playing colossus

[sullen dove]

if u cant hit ms/op/exe probably

idk maybe u hit cleave over exe

first 2 are def prio tho

[undone flower]

Biz video talks about it

[lean heart]

this on 2targets doesnt matter at all then ?

[undone flower]

Highly suggest it

[sullen dove]

prolly not

[lean heart]

ok

[lean heart]

can u link pls

[undone flower]

It’s a very very small minmax with colat, don’t really

[sullen dove]

its funny how arms does more dmg per target than how much u think u would gain

going from 1 > 2 is over double damage, and 2 > 3 is like 60% more

going from 1 > 3 is doing like 4x more dmg lmao

[undone flower]

https://youtu.be/jsCiMCFdkfA?is=FVlDH9YQ0cQ1uZh0

[lean heart]

also the in game CDM alert just straight up dont work half the time

i have it for SS on aura removed and about 50% of the time it just doenst work lmao

[undone flower]

I warn you : a lot of the small min max is very small gain, don’t if it gets too cringe for you

Like start cleaving between 35% and 20% stuff like that

[lean heart]

yeh i just wanted to know if i use cleave on 2targets i know the other stuff

[undone flower]

At one point he talks about 2t

[small loom]

Dreading mythic prog after paladins 12.0.5 won't save us 😪

[slim coral]

@prisma fiber

[prisma fiber]

@slim coral lock in

[sullen dove]

may not save fury think arms is livin a lil tho

[fleet sorrel]

@slim coral

couldve been you

[brave thorn]

So, how do you folks “parse” on Belo’ren (HC) in a pug.

[slim coral]

I saw the damage breakdown

I'd rather not grief the guild

💀

[fleet sorrel]

skill makes up the diff

[scarlet swift]

Half a monk, what happened to warriors

[silk wharf]

There must be some secret talent build that Blizz is gatekeeping.

[slim coral]

nah man fury need god

[scarlet swift]

Ya it’s called an alt spec

[slim coral]

arms is not any better on this fight

in terms of damage compared to all other classes

[dapper goblet]

apook is 56 years old (not a joke) and he twerks

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-dancing-gif-12682992

@misty edge irl

[formal tulip]

hey guys I am new to fury, can anyone tell me if siegebreaker cleaves?

[keen kindle]

siegebreaker dosen't exist

[formal tulip]

ooh

[keen kindle]

it was removed in df

[brave thorn]

Are the adds on beloren grip-able?

[sullen dove]

yea

[brave thorn]

Oh i see, thanks.

[lean heart]

sweeping strikes aura is active but the tracker just straight up doesnt work

[polar narwhal]

Wrong spell id perhaps?

[lean heart]

half the time it does the other half it doesnt

really fucking annoying

[undone flower]

@coarse nest i get it now, ready for those pink oinkers

i should start doing higher keys, dmg gets eaten too much

[native wadi]

Before 15s without double demolish per pull we lose a lot

From there is cowabunga

[undone flower]

yeah i was doing 12s to learn and it gets frustrating

[native wadi]

Still does well

You get juicy overall

But get carried at bosses mostly

[undone flower]

it's just for raid, 1 boss so im fine lel

But still happy I do basically the same overall as my fury in key level disfavoring arms

[gilded belfry]

On CD, did you use rampage 50 to reduce odyn's cd ?
Or bb to cast rampage ~80/100 like always ?

[keen kindle]

Yeah

Its just bugged

[young swan]

it does yeah

[formal tulip]

thank you for the help

[sudden tusk]

Why are you mixter in here

whats the lore

[sudden tusk]

what you really gotta do it look at it and realize you get to steal 5% damage from 8 people so its more middle of the pack

[slim coral]

ok but what if your guild has a prot warrior

can you still steal it

[sudden tusk]

2x required dk raid buff doing 20% more ST btw

they gotta kill the 2x dk req

dimmy was a one off but this 3 add shit needs to stop

[slim coral]

what they should really do

is remove battle shout from prot warr

[sudden tusk]

we dont get lust becuase blizzard is scared to give a tank lust

[radiant plank]

what about the 2x lock requirement :))

[undone flower]

WHY the friendly fire ?

just tank bro

[keen kindle]

Because they moved mobs out of my denolish

So fuck em

[undone flower]

just leap

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[keen kindle]

Still fuck em

Na actually

Ita cuz they pulled mobs, stopped, let evreyone pop cds, THEN PULL ANOTHER PACK

[indigo arch]

The nerf revert was great, but holy fuck please buff thane OR slayer fury in m+, playing colo arms again giving me vietnam flashbacks from tww s2

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-18890916

[undone flower]

Now that i accepted arms into my heart, i understand the rage

[indigo arch]

Yet another reason i despise this shit

2 braincell tanks stopping in a very clear way, only to decide "oh let me grab these now xddddd"

fuck demolish

[keen kindle]

Naw

Fuck cs for that one

[indigo arch]

that too

[keen kindle]

Skill issue just play with good tanks

[indigo arch]

fuck current arms*

[keen kindle]

Ma

[undone flower]

Cs buff on player

[keen kindle]

I like arms evenncurrently yes im bias

[indigo arch]

last time arms was fun to me was in mop

tbh if slayer got tuned well for m+ I'd almost fuck with it

rather just have fury thane or slayer get an actual tuning pass now instead but either or lmao

[undone flower]

Gotta need a public log kill of Lura to get a fury buff

Anlaki

[keen kindle]

Gonna be a bit before that unfort

[indigo arch]

probably better off fleeing to unholy until fury is far enough past arms to where people aren't autodeclining fury to keys at or above a 17

ppl sadly are learning that colo cranks

[keen kindle]

Realistically better off being a caster

[indigo arch]

unholy is a caster

lmao

[undone flower]

Im unsure they will do something this Friday and just wait 1 raid week of .5

[keen kindle]

No

[indigo arch]

more defensives too

[keen kindle]

Full caster class

[indigo arch]

devourer has L jazz hands animations and demo idk

maybe demo

imagine a class based around big ass glaives, and they make all the attacks except for cull/reap do naruto handsigns at enemies

well nvm that's just consume, but lotta that going on

[tardy lark]

the Lura double raid buff tax

2 locks, 2 dhs, 2 hunters, 2 monks

[north fiber]

howdy, sorry to interrupt, this can't be right, right? hero track heart vs champ track paw

it's 5 min dungeon slice sim

[tired bane]

Depend on the rest of your gear... do you already have lots of crit and little haste?

[north fiber]

not quite, this is with haste flask, food, oils

[timid tide]

People should not be meta slaves and should play classes they enjoy. Only problem is if the class is dog shit and they don't get invited to groups

[north fiber]

oh i'm just dumb, i had crit flask selected, now it makes sence, please ignore me 🙂

[pastel spoke]

mountain thane feels so weird to play

[tepid dune]

Reminds me of a almost gladiator spec back in wod

[timid tide]

I feel like Thane has a nice cadence to it, once you get in the flow. Like rhythm

[tepid dune]

Without the shield

[signal falcon]

That’s what I dislike about it personally

[pearl lance]

Feels fluent to me

[signal falcon]

After a while just pressing BT, TB, and Ramp with only slight variations in order gets stale

[pastel spoke]

didnt say unfluent only weird 😄

[timid tide]

Hit 3k last. I played with guild groups until 2.5 but was benched by guild lead for reasons, then started pugging with a healer friend. I feel like pugging is better than doing group runs with the same people, teaches you a lot more

[signal falcon]

I do think pugging teaches you how to deal with chaos in a way that organised play doesn’t yeah

[timid tide]

To me it's a lot like keeping up tempo, like playing an instrument. You can tell if you miss a beat and screw up your rotation. But once you get in the flow it's just nice

[signal falcon]

Like you were raised by the wolves

In the fighting pits

[timid tide]

In the trenches 😁

[undone flower]

finally that ring

[fading sky]

Well Trust that 12.05 will buff collosus arms to the point

where u can demo into amp phases !

[signal falcon]

In the 0.5 patch

Where it says Unrelenting Onslaught increases Bladestorm damage by 20%

I assume that’s in addition to all the current effects

Like bladestorm cdr and overwhelmed stacks

Rather than replacing that functionality

[unreal onyx]

Not in bis list, disenchant time

[tired bane]

Next week is craft time again. Ring it is i guess, because the nexus point rings do not exist in my version of the game

[tardy lark]

how come my champ track bis list trinket sims lower than my max hero track B tier trinket?

[earnest canyon]

iLevel and the rest of your gear

[tardy lark]

forgot the /s

my b

[earnest canyon]

o

[undone flower]

Robot God is my master
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5KeY89x5Pssn2pbazDKnT1

[earnest canyon]

Sorry, im at the point where I just dont know anymore and i also didnt read up

[tardy lark]

sarcasm in text is rough man

lets just do voice messages like the gen z people

[undone flower]

How

Im gen z i think but 1st year so im a genz boomer

[tardy lark]

what year is gen z even

[undone flower]

1997 or 1998 I think

Im 1998

[tardy lark]

what are people born past y2k called

[undone flower]

Alpha ?

[tardy lark]

google says 2010-2024

[undone flower]

iPad kids ?

[unreal onyx]

Millenials, no?

[undone flower]

Millennials are before gen z

[unreal onyx]

Gen Z is 1997-2012 according to wikipedia

[tardy lark]

millenial is 1996 and genz from 1997

[undone flower]

Gen X = millennials

[unreal onyx]

Ye mb, millenials are gen y

[undone flower]

Yeah Y mb

[unreal onyx]

For whatever reason

[unreal onyx]

Gen Alpha

Gigachad name tbh

[undone flower]

Now it’s gen beta

[unreal onyx]

Imagine you are gen Beta after

Beta for life

[honest trail]

Millenials win

[unreal onyx]

Millenials might aswell be boomers

[undone flower]

Yes.

Fortunately I can choose which one I am

Win win

[unreal onyx]

Same actually

[honest trail]

No am late Millenial

94

[undone flower]

Old*

[unreal onyx]

Post 30 is unc status

[honest trail]

Am auntie

[undone flower]

25 is the new unc minimum I feel like nowadays

[honest trail]

No way

25yo are kiddos

[undone flower]

Those kids are harsh yep

[unreal onyx]

For the tiktok 67 kids, yea

[undone flower]

They decide which age is unc

[honest trail]

I like to distinguish generations by main socials

Facebook gen
Twitter gen
X gen
Instagram gen
TikTok gen

[undone flower]

I don’t distinguish by generation since it’s kinda dumb

[unreal onyx]

Twitter and X is the same

[honest trail]

It is a joke

Nah

[undone flower]

Im gen Z I grew up until Jr Highschool without internet

[unreal onyx]

6 7, tung tung tung sahur

[unreal onyx]

What age is jr high

[undone flower]

11-12 in France

2008-2009 is when I got internet in my house

[honest trail]

Even if it was a joke from me, it is interesting im terms of social studies tho

[undone flower]

I think a lot of those are stupid, so it’s case by case

When you stretch a generation over 3 year+ it starts to get really weird

Between the bottom and top

[honest trail]

Life evolved way quicker now

Socially

[unreal onyx]

I think I got in touch with the internet in like 6th grade

[honest trail]

I feel lost just talking to 25yo and I am 32

Autism doesn't help

XD

[undone flower]

Im technically in the same generation as my 2 brothers, 7 years apart from the middle one, 14 from the youngest, we are 100% different generation from each other

[honest trail]

Y same

7 and 9 younger from my brother and sister

They're very different

Family culture is also a big thing

[undone flower]

I didn’t grow up in a big city, internet was not really fast spread here

How can I be gen Z when my first phone was a Nokia

[unreal onyx]

My first phone was a sony ericsson

A slide one

W595 Walkman in black/turquoise

[indigo sigil]

Slayer gucci actually for 12.0.5 guys ?

for furry

[undone flower]

Im not sure, but I think it’s basically neutral

[dense elbow]

A minor dps loss, we shall see how things pan out after tuning and final changes

Overall, Fury Slayer and Thane is as just fine as always

[unreal onyx]

Ilvl checkpoint

[honest trail]

Slayer will be less of a pain to play in aoe

But should be the same

Bladestorm buff is more tho

[dense elbow]

Oh hohoho I got you now

276

Get rekt

[unreal onyx]

277.67

[honest trail]

277

[dense elbow]

Son of a

[unreal onyx]

With a nm trinket

[honest trail]

Same

Champ Seer

[indigo sigil]

Ok ty so wait and see patch change coming soon i think

[unreal onyx]

Champ heart good

[dense elbow]

BS going up 20% will be more DPS on the low roll, less on the high

A good change tho, noone likes the swing RNG of Reap

[honest trail]

I am almost 278 but 14th ilvl in my guild

Half of them are 279

[dense elbow]

Dang

Big guild

[honest trail]

Idk

Depends for who lol

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-scp-67-funyuns-funny-gif-75413186200073602

[native island]

is there a really big difference in mountain thane m+ build vs slayer ST spec? when i sim theres not much difference. almost feels trivial to switch

[honest trail]

Play what you enjoy most

[unreal onyx]

https://giphy.com/gifs/what-stare-ohnepixel-obvtAqp0No9uUPDskH

[honest trail]

Unless your group lacks either prio dmg or aoe

[tardy lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181574946321870999/1487025108445954098/max-huh.gif

[honest trail]

Then you can switch from one of the other

[unreal onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[dense elbow]

I am too old for this shit

Still kitty

[dense elbow]

Most who sign for keys are in the 270-274 area, so guess for most

Then we can do the classic Skyhold thing of using the bottom 0.1% as the low bar and agree "most" are 280

[undone flower]

im sorry (it's pure st slay slay thane)

[honest trail]

I can't play Thane so Slayer better

_>

[native island]

87 is slayer st and 81 is thane m+. patchwerk 1 boss

[tardy lark]

and that is why people mostly play thane (and slayer giga blows)

[honest trail]

can't we compare dmg percentile by hero talent?

[undone flower]

you can have a nice detailed report (no profileset), if you do an advanced sim

[honest trail]

P.A.I.N.

[radiant plank]

[native island]

How does that work?

just copy the inputy into advanced sim?

[undone flower]

/simc -> advanced, at the bottom you add copy="NAME" and change what you want

so you can see those

[native island]

oh i dont have that apparently. when i type /ximc all i get is the string

[undone flower]

detailed reports from topgear are weird

[undone flower]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/advanced

[vast token]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-2665742826959095609

GM Rend Enjoyers

[native island]

i got this now (sorry im a noob at this. i only know how to sim top gear and quick sims)

[undone flower]

then, at the bottom of that, #fury message

talent strings from wowhead calculator or ingame

[trail bane]

So, i havnt looked at any of the patch notes for 12.0.5. Can someone tell me what buffs we are getting to make sure we get to participate on any of the last bosses or m+?

[undone flower]

or you can change other things, pm me if you need more help it gets too floody

[trail bane]

Surely Blizzard hasnt left us off the patch notes yet again?

[honest trail]

Mostly QoL changes for Slayer

[native island]

Gotcha! Thank you so much! 😄

[trail bane]

Im thinking a 10% aura buff or something

[honest trail]

Nothing much else

[undone flower]

👍

you can open the detailed report to see more... details

if you are not interested in the html report, you can just sim talents at the bottom of topgear

[native island]

no i like this, i can easily compare different build as well now. thank you

[undone flower]

That’s how you sim different races or other things, you can add more copy=

[native island]

awesome

[signal falcon]

Improved Whirlwind applies Rend
Rampage has a chance to proc Reap when hitting 3+ targets
Bladestorm damage buffed by 20%
Hack and Slash triggers a guaranteed Raging Blow refund

[timid tide]

The Raging Blow is beyond me. It's literally on the bottom of the prio list. Only use it when everything else on cd. And it does generate a little bit more rage

It's better than nothing, but some ST dmg buff to Thane would be nice

[small loom]

Yeah thinking arms might be our saving grace. Not paladins level of save but might be able to compete

[coarse nest]

[hollow leaf]

lmao

[gilded belfry]

So AOE rampage > 20% proc reap > BT (Bb?) 20% chance Apply overwheel ?

.05

[bright blaze]

Am I the only one facing issues to find m+ party for 8-10 keys? it feels like now i have to send in a resume with a cover letter to get into one

[burnt oxide]

Well you queue against 20+ ppl most of the time

If score and ilvl is lower than even 1 guy, you loose.
It helps to actually write something stupid that make you stand out

"please sir, i am poor and i didnt eat loot for months"

[bright blaze]

idk why i read that in indian accent

[burnt oxide]

Xd

[summer quail]

yes rampage procs reap on aoe only instead of bt in .5 sudden death guaranteed reap is staying tho

[astral ice]

What item will we craft next reset? I know it depends on individual gear but just wanna know your Opinion

[dense elbow]

I am a tad disapointed, I finally reached the point where I wanted to minmax my gear from M+

Only to see, I already had all the best stuff shucks, I reached my gearing wall already

[undone flower]

Maybe a cloak or ring, if I don’t get lot of raid loots

Or a belt

I don’t really want to do a belt rn bc I have hc alleria socketed belt

[lime vortex]

Will depend on your vault as well

[undone flower]

Boots there are boots on chimaerus and vorasius

[astral ice]

Ye that for sure

I got catalyst boots already

[undone flower]

If I get raid loot it will depend on what it is, if I want to spend all my myth crest -> 80 on craft or spend all on loot and no craft

[terse hamlet]

Hey guys I have one Problem, In comparison to other fury I do much lesser rampage And more thunderclap, sometimes lower bloodthirst. I have 25% haste unbuffed. In recklessness cd i use rampage oder 100 Rage 1 time sometimes 2 Times. What can I do better to have better rampage Casts because sometimes I have downtimes on abilitys

[undone flower]

Like you press 1/2 rampage in the whole reck duration ?

[terse hamlet]

No with 100 Rage rampage one After the other, then bloodthirst, Thunder blast Execute If procs

[undone flower]

If bloodthirst is up you should not rampage back to back

Or thunderblast

[fading sky]

Do y have less presses of ramp or less dmg %

[undone flower]

I think he misses lot of rage gen GCDs

[fading sky]

Yup

[tacit moat]

should most of your damage come from rampage during reck? or bb/tb

[terse hamlet]

Yeah guess that the Problem. Overall in fights my Rage Gen is Like I have 40 lesser presses on rampage in the Same time , obvisous my presses in reck Are Fine but After it I begin to slack mit rage gen

[undone flower]

If you use rampage too early yes it happens

Out of CDs, almost everything is >simple rampages (in AoE)

So if you hit a lot of those 80 rage rampage, you are doing a mistake

[tacit moat]

what is better about waiting for 100+ rage to rampage?

[undone flower]

You have more rage for the next rampage, you put your rage gen abilities in cooldown while losing 0 rampage cast

[tacit moat]

ah i understand. like send a bt first if you wont overcap use a gcd on rampage and bt is almost up

[undone flower]

100 rage you press rampage -> you start at 20 rage to be able to rampage again

You lose 0 rampage cast by waiting 100 rage

[terse hamlet]

Thank you I have to Check my prio of usage more. I test it at Home.

[undone flower]

If you need help with reading the priority rotation of wowhead you can message me

[tacit moat]

rampage because of the raw damage output of rampage vs other spells? or because of putting your abilities on cooldown while not rage capped like you mentioned to do more damage overall with rampage

[undone flower]

#fury message

Rampage is still the biggest dmg ability we have

[tacit moat]

ok i understand

so the prio is to build more rage overall for more rampages

not because a bloodthirst does more damage than a rampage

[undone flower]

You overcap your rage = you do lose rampage casts

[tacit moat]

💯

[undone flower]

And to not have dead GCDs (when you don’t press anything or ww )

[tacit moat]

yes i notice this occasionally happens outside of CDS, i assume because im pressing rampage too early

[terse ether]

so during Reck where rampage is at 60rage, you go Ramp > Ramp > BB> Ramp ?

[tacit moat]

he mentioned not doing ramp back to back if you have something like BB up

[undone flower]

So you are 60 rage and no thunderblast, BB ?

(We gonna assume under 7 targets)

[terse ether]

simpler, ST

is rampage still 1st prio ? or only above 100rage

[undone flower]

ST

[tardy lark]

You basically want to keep bloodbath on CD and tblast below 2 stacks while rampaging above 100

[undone flower]

If no 2 blast stack, no OF or no BB, 60 rage, yes you rampage

[tardy lark]

fury rotation in one sentence

[undone flower]

Maybe it needs to be posted

[supple glen]

just pin

[undone flower]

Not really, some ppl don’t really understand or skip it, i suspect a lot don’t know how to read a priority list, they can ask questions

[fading sky]

Buff war st when

Fury needs another 20l

Arge

[terse ether]

the funny thing is if you see top players in llorgs, they cast 2 times rampage in row

[undone flower]

It can happen

[supple glen]

just prep your alt already so you are prepared for when it doesnt happen

[undone flower]

#fury message