well why can you not do it without arcui in the first place 😔
#fury
supple glen
burnt oxide
technically you can because one is buff and one is ability but, just fucked
i want a more elegant way
i guess i can just hide the SD one alltogether
and just use sound
supple glen
i love having gaps bc they cant pop up dynamically
is it an issue? no. did a free software do it way better than the multidollar company? slightly
sullen dove
Puzzle good for m+ generally pretty bad for raid
crucible is good
worth upgrading/maxing its buff if u don’t got the good raid trinks
dim spindle
Crucible's +speed % is underrated even if I feel weird using a rep trinket this long
sullen dove
Ya it’s a nice bonus too
just mainly i think 80% ish uptime on a decent amount of crit
dim spindle
Just have to remember to swap back to it after equpping a higher ilvl trinkie for pug apps
sullen dove
not crazy but reliable enough
lfg queuing should be bag Ilvl regardless of what u have equipped I think
dim spindle
Is it? Well damn
I think I remember when that became a thing actually. gtk ty
Rate my setup
burnt oxide
are those sausages
dim spindle
Reddit delivering some gold for a change
hot dogs, tyvm
Reddit
It's in between all the "M+ players are mean" and "WHERE'S MY HELMETS WITH HAIR BLIZZARD" posts
stark sinew
guys this neck so worth or bad for fury ?
burnt oxide
what is the first stat
stark sinew
y
humble sleet
guys this neck so worth or bad for fury ?
chinese next time pls
sullen dove
guessing it’s haste mast but not sure
burnt oxide
mastery yes
stark sinew
i think
stark sinew
for single target its not bad
supple glen
Rate my setup
would go great with my mayonnaise controller
humble sleet
dim spindle
would go great with my mayonnaise controller
That's unsettling
dim spindle
It's clearly indice di celerita and indice di maestria
Secondary effect I'm pretty sure is in the language of the Old Gods
candid sorrel
Something about unique gems increase something by 1%
dim spindle
"Understanding" it would lead to complete insanity
glass steppe
hi guys im new to fury and i would like to now if theres a way to make slayer work at m+
stark sinew
glass steppe
or if im just bad at it
foggy flower
thanks was just curious cause the pinned said that the darkmoon one was strongest but than online guides said weapon early arcanoweave x2 as long term crafts
ionic drift
I swear, no matter what I do, I can't get any drops with Haste and Mastery! It’s always Crit and ...
This is my last drop 🙁
The only pieces that i have good stat is this one .
fringe vale
All this for a little bit of gabagool?
dim spindle
To actually answer your question you probably want to craft the regular stats necklace with arcanoweave (if it can be put on jewelry)
But I'd just get that pvp quest neck
It's pretty beastly for a heroic neck
Especially since you can just spam 8 training grounds BGs for it. Pick the railways one, gg
lean osprey
Hello fellow furrys
keen kindle
This is cursed
willow cradle
Lmao
modest condor
writing wonna instead of wanna
keen kindle
AND GETTING A SHAMAN
dim spindle
Hello fellow furrys
Speak for yourself
Could be worse... could be referring to scalies
wheat vapor
Hello! Im new with the Warriot (my main its a rogue) any recomendation if play arms or fury in m+?
slim coral
I woudl give the edge to arms
thin parrot
Guys, the first mythic week i crafted my 2h 285 weapon and could freely upgrade my other 2h to 6/6 heroic (266) without spending crest. A guildie just crafted his 2h 285 weapon but upgrading the other 2h requires hero crests for him. Are we missing something?
wheat vapor
I woudl give the edge to arms
ty
modest condor
may have to relog
odd crater
Guys, the first mythic week i crafted my 2h 285 weapon and could freely upgrade ...
Log out and log back in
upbeat plume
yeah logging out and back in and waiting for a few min usually fixes that
clear cove
Recently came back to play this expansion and playing fury. Feels like fury got the short stick so far compared to arms
obtuse palm
I mean, Fury was ahead of Arms up until 2 weeks ago, Arms was trash on release. Now they're more or less equal in M+
Neither completly suck
lone seal
I mean, Fury was ahead of Arms up until 2 weeks ago, Arms was trash on release. ...
so, people playing arms is just personal pref?
warm crag
nah arms is just better for m+
only really starts mattering when you're pushing keys tho for your weekly 10s just play what makes you happy
bitter palm
I mean, Fury was ahead of Arms up until 2 weeks ago, Arms was trash on release. ...
arms has been better in m+ since the 15% aura buff
granite elbow
Friend shared this with me, should we shutdown warrior discord in protest of single target damage buffs?
sour frigate
olive wraith
Friend shared this with me, should we shutdown warrior discord in protest of sin...
Depends if you think that actually got them buffs
Spoiler ||it didn’t||
twin iron
got a message today from a friend who is presently afk that the changes to fury were reverted? anyone see anything about that?
granite elbow
got a message today from a friend who is presently afk that the changes to fury ...
Yeah I think in updates channel it says the same
granite elbow
Spoiler ||it didn’t||
lol I think it’s wild to “threaten” a protest discord shutdown in hopes of changes. Hilarious.
So anyways I’ll keep crying to myself at night praying for these ST buffs.
olive wraith
lol I think it’s wild to “threaten” a protest discord shutdown in hopes of chang...
Ptr might be slightly ahead with sd reap coming back and bs buff
We shall see soon
odd garden
boys ive been debating on this all week, is the neck(more Haste/less Verse) worth taking or should i hold out for better and just take myth legs and catalyze them
brittle crow
always myth tier
granite elbow
We shall see soon
Keep trying to emote thumbs up but can’t lol ty anyways. I could use a break from Thane as well.
odd garden
always myth tier
both myth
whoops i get you
i already have tier and 4 set so doesnt really matter in that sense
olive wraith
Keep trying to emote thumbs up but can’t lol ty anyways. I could use a break fro...
Ya reactions are disabled haha. I’m guessing thane is still going to be better for keys
frozen dome
So how do you play Alleria second intermission
Just leap and avoid balls if necessary
I feel like getting an arrow can be hard since I’m always running for my life
young swan
Friend shared this with me, should we shutdown warrior discord in protest of sin...
thye have been clowned relentlessly for that
olive wraith
Sadly it’s half meme and half people think it actually did something (anecdotally)
dim spindle
I thought they had shut the whole server down, not just the ret channels. Even more amusing
No way did blizz base their decision on that
Surely not. Surely.
warm crag
they didnt
echo rapids
Just leap and avoid balls if necessary
A few raid speed buffs help
But you can send your leap
echo rapids
I didn’t realize you couldn’t leap over the orbs
Classic
Leap is coded like some strange charge
warm crag
eh not really leap does have a vertical component
echo rapids
Once or twice a raid tier there is something that gets you
echo rapids
eh not really leap does have a vertical component
Yeah but the vertical component doesn’t always matter
There are things you should clear vertically that the games considers you to have run into
Think its also how they make those objects, the orbs must extend up?
I think the mines on mugzee were like that
languid heart
which is the best guide to follow
method wowhead and maxroll all have rotations slightly different
warm crag
just follow the wowhead one
dunno who writes the method one and the maxroll one is a bit weird imo
languid heart
im struggling with the follow through for the rot
warm crag
im struggling with the follow through for the rot
what do you struggle with?
sudden tusk
dunno who writes the method one and the maxroll one is a bit weird imo
the maxroll ones i dont think get updated as much since its probably pre expansion write up
since i think echo has a contract with them
languid heart
i think maintaining consciousness of rage cap/ enrage buff while needing to hit bloodbath/ other procs
weakauras would solve this 
warm crag
well a decent ui will solve that
sudden tusk
i think maintaining consciousness of rage cap/ enrage buff while needing to hit ...
tbh the only time you need to care about spending rage is when reck is about to fall off
languid heart
ill take what works, mine could use some work
sudden tusk
try to alternate ramp casts with Tblast and BB during your cooldowns
so like Ramp>Tblast>Ramp>Bloodbath>Ramp>tblast
and if you get into a situation where you cant ramp just hit another button like sudden death execute that generates a lot of rage
lone plume
Can i basically remove raging blow from my rotation with enough haste?
sudden tusk
still there as a okay filler to press
buit iits low prio
also haste doensnt work that way
the more haste you get the more your GCD lowers
so technically your class will always play the exact same, its just faster or slower with more or less haste
lone plume
Alright, so there is no build where I can avoid it?
sudden tusk
yup
languid heart
so like Ramp>Tblast>Ramp>Bloodbath>Ramp>tblast
ill give this a try, do you have any advice for the regular rotation? maybe some better ui profiles? I also tried the ingame wow rotation helper and its total cheeks
olive wraith
Alright, so there is no build where I can avoid it?
You could always press ww instead (for a dps loss)
languid heart
it passes for a regular heroic dungeon i guess
olive wraith
Ya the wow helper is ass
sudden tusk
The in game guide is pretty bad. i have a video explaining why we press what we press which might be handy if you are newer to the spec if thats something you'd be interested in
olive wraith
Madox, don’t you have rotational videos?
olive wraith
languid heart
i wouldnt say new but new enough, i played bala for 20 years
sudden tusk
i wouldnt say new but new enough, i played bala for 20 years
i dont like to self promote in general, but if i've already done the work id rather point to stuff ive made instead of re explain
languid heart
absolutely
sudden tusk
if you have any questions feel free to hit me up
languid heart
for sure, thank you
sudden tusk
i do not
echo scarab
i fucked up and leveled a ret paladin, its like eating bbq chicken after eating boiled chicken your entire life. ill see yall on the other side
dapper goblet
i do not
all you zoomers missed the good memes
you dont even know the true king
Kelade
sudden tusk
ive heard that name
dapper goblet
nothing but a noise in the wind now..
quiet geyser
Wait
Kalede or cautex
Which 1 was the 1 who made the youtube videos and just word for word said everything archim said
But claimed to be his own shit
sudden tusk
i looked him up kalede hasnt made a video in 2 years
dapper goblet
tardy lark
i actually watched his stuff when istarted getting into raiding
dapper goblet
i'd say most the stuff he said wasnt wrong just you know
copy cat
his jaina opener video breakdown
200 iq
tardy lark
i had success to just trying to do what he did
dapper goblet
cautex was just wrong about a lot of stuff
tardy lark
cautex straight up just said wrong shit
dapper goblet
but like an innocent lad
tardy lark
vibes
sullen dove
w shit
tardy lark
before they were a thing
quiet geyser
Bro he made up these charts and shit, to try to explain something archim would say in discord literally the day before
tardy lark
warm crag
warm crag
wth
tardy lark
i thought it was sneakauras before they were popular
languid heart
im not confident in this question anymore but ill ask it anyways
if you had to throw out a educated guess, would you say youre hitting rampage after every two abilities
sudden tusk
if you had to throw out a educated guess, would you say youre hitting rampage af...
Early on in your CDs i hit ramp probably every other button. But in normal rotation you can easily hit 3-5 buttons without ramp
languid heart
okay ill keep that in consideration thank you
i did watch the vid too, its refreshing to have explanations
tardy lark
theres no reason to hit rampage if you arent ragecapped and enrage isnt dropping
languid heart
thats the problem im having is monitoring my rotation and my rage and buff all at the same time
tardy lark
ragecapped = next ability will cap your rage, so you rampage
throw in rotational buttons, ragebar and enrage bar in the middle of your screen below your guy
in the cooldown manager
tardy lark
thats a lot of buttons
languid heart
yeah thats bcdm, its a wip
tardy lark
i usually prefer having ragebar, enrage bar and general buffs above the rotational essentials
languid heart
if youre on, do you have a reference i could see
tardy lark
my monitor is pretty and your isnt ragey
languid heart
what are you using for addons? i think i like your set up more
tardy lark
its just atrocity ui and then i change a few things i dislike about it
languid heart
its just atrocity ui and then i change a few things i dislike about it
im not familiar with what that is. Is it attached to elv?
dim spindle
https://youtu.be/o-VIlXdW4wg
That's quite the scene going on in the lower left
tardy lark
im not familiar with what that is. Is it attached to elv?
its a streamer guy doing a ui for subscribers
dim spindle
Wait is that FF14
tardy lark
i just leech off of people that spend that money
sudden tusk
i am the frog
dim spindle
I just saw it in thumbnail/discord embed version and assumed it was a belf rave
With a random frog
languid heart
do oyu have a profile or import string?
dim spindle
Noice. I loved FF but kinda retired from it after FF10
FF7 was the future when it came out. That train scene in the ads, amazing
Even if the characters had an entire 2 polygons for hands/arms
tardy lark
do oyu have a profile or import string?
have to sub to the guy on whatever platform
dim spindle
i'd say most the stuff he said wasnt wrong just you know
Swifty though
Just checked and he was last live on twitch 2 days ago... goddamn
I figured he would have been metooed by now or something
btw RIP TurtleWoW
scarlet swift
Final fantasy tactics as the best FF in the series
dim spindle
Guys!
supple glen
damn beloren seems impossible for pug. people can not handle 2 soaks and 2 walls. i will never kill this boss
dim spindle
I didn't watch that much of him besides the meme material but I appreciate his drawing attention to the absolute dominance that is the Warrior class
Seem to remember him mostly being Arms but I forgive him. I was mostly prot back then anyway
supple glen
fury wasnt a thing in cata
dim spindle
Arms in current day? Unforgivable.
supple glen
hes not to blame
dim spindle
I didn't hop on the Fury train until Legion, skipped WoD entirely
supple glen
you were griefing yourself and others playing fury
modest condor
fury was the better spec for 2 tiers in cata what do you mean
dim spindle
You talking cata or legion? or both
All I know is I got highroll draught and arcano, didn't matter what spec you played at that point
dim spindle
Nighthold in particular
supple glen
in cata
chilly fractal
Tier 13 was all Arms
dim spindle
IIRC arms was a bit better in NH but I still wrecked as fury
chilly fractal
Tier 11 and 12 Fury wasn’t that bad
dim spindle
I seem to remember empty globals being an issue for arms and I aint down with all that
Even if it did pump
keen kindle
I seem to remember empty globals being an issue for arms and I aint down with al...
It is
dim spindle
If a spec doesn't have a serious risk of carpal tunnel I don't want it
No pain no gain
supple glen
carpal tunnel + bottom half of the meter
dim spindle
Just pug with filthy casuals. Problem solved
dry ether
carpal tunnel + bottom half of the meter
im sold
keen kindle
Just pug with filthy casuals. Problem solved
Jokes on you
dim spindle
Oh wait, I am a filthy casual now... but still
keen kindle
I am a filthy casual
chilly fractal
Only time my hands hurt playing Warrior of any kind was Gladiator in WoD
keen kindle
Only time my hands hurt playing Warrior of any kind was Gladiator in WoD
Not even fury in bfa?
dim spindle
That's the #1 part of WoD I'm sad I missed
keen kindle
That shit was crazy in nya
supple glen
i end up spamming way more than is needed
you can play fury kinda chill
but its not the same!!!
chilly fractal
Not even fury in bfa?
Glad still had Heroic Strike and off global
modest condor
i remember 100% haste gaming in bfa
dim spindle
Thane is Actually BiS
keen kindle
i remember 100% haste gaming in bfa
Yeah that was maximum degen
keen kindle
Thane is Actually BiS
Thane and arms
supple glen
what if i lose 20ms while pressing the wrong ability 🔥
modest condor
thane should have been an arms hero spec
dim spindle
honestly it probably should have been
chilly fractal
Yes Thunder Clap the famously used Fury ability
modest condor
i dont care that it dualwielded in a game that released 25 years ago, it never made sense to be a fury spec with how the specs work in current wow
dim spindle
Blademaster and MT arms. Then I might actually play it
chilly fractal
In the history of this game when did Fury ever use Thunder Clap
supple glen
TBF, tclap rend interaction was famously insane in cataclysm and mop
so theres some roots to that
modest condor
yeah but that was arms, not fury
dim spindle
In the history of this game when did Fury ever use Thunder Clap
Probably me when I first started playing in BC if I hadn't gone for an arms/prot abomination "spec" instead while leveling
supple glen
okay fair
modest condor
and that's my whole point, a tclap hero spec should go to the tclap spec
hell, we literally came out of a "sd procs tclap" tierset for arms
chilly fractal
Probably me when I first started playing in BC if I hadn't gone for an arms/prot...
Arms/Prot sounds a whole lot like not Fury
modest condor
would have been a perfect entry into a tclap based hero spec
dim spindle
Yeah well I also had "autoattack" on my action bars for the first couple dozen levels
I mean it had an icon and I'm pretty sure it was there by default when you created a character
Unless I manually dragged it to the bars, can't remember. Wouldn't surprise me
supple glen
i dont get it either, not like theyre the same ability anyway
chilly fractal
It starts on your bar back then so you probably left it
supple glen
but ww is way cooler
chilly fractal
Tottbot never really helped with how classes worked
dim spindle
True
chilly fractal
More locating drops and quest objectives
dim spindle
Where's mankrik's wife?
dim spindle
aka a Tauren?
badumtiss
On that note... welp slaps knees time to hit the ol' dusty trail
olive wraith
thane should have been an arms hero spec
Slayer should have been ravager instead of bs
modest condor
slayer should have given a replacement ability for execute called slay
olive wraith
Bs belongs to arms
slim coral
did they revert thunderclap nerfs ?
smoky vale
high lagoon
where did you find this mate
slim coral
brittle crow
slayer should have given a replacement ability for execute called slay
what if it let you execute above 80% health in addition to below 35%
that'd be fun i think
high lagoon
Thank you
so this means arms slayer will still be good
because sudden death will still proc on st
okay thats cool
they will both be good but arms better
olive wraith
Thane has better st in keys doesn’t it?
fiery hare
scarlet swift
Did they fix the arms cd desync?
olive wraith
?
compact knot
Did they fix the arms cd desync?
do you more colo or sd
slayer*
because colo cds dont desync unless you play poorly
its unironically a skill issue
slayer does though because SD rng is cringe
blissful marten
how often does warcraft logs update? I feel like my runs never do on there
restive peak
Thane has better st in keys doesn’t it?
Than what? Slarms or slurry?
Cuz technically it's a bit behind both but has far better AOE and burst than slurry, slarms is likely the best spec overall for dmg profile+having DBTS is big
And stance mastery dstance is basically pala bubble
high lagoon
what u gonna be playin lincc
restive peak
Thane til it's a problem for my healer, then slarms I guess but I don't really love current arms
So I'll thane til forced otherwise by key level
high lagoon
Same I dont enjoy colossus AT ALL
restive peak
I'd rather colo than slarms tbh, it just feels clunky even though it's basic
Thane feels amazing, the flow is fun and the passive imp WW+rend is QOL I love
high lagoon
yeee I feel ya
olive wraith
Than what? Slarms or slurry?
Either arms spec (key loadout)
restive peak
slarms is def competitive and prob better ST than thane
high lagoon
no thane is better st
but slayer arms better aoe
colossus is king aoe but very bad sty
scarlet swift
do you more colo or sd
always slayer, but i need to do colo to be better
modest condor
just bring funnel to bosses 4Head
opaque nova
honestly and not kidding
scarlet swift
thats up to tank, not me KEK
modest condor
colarms can do 100k+ prio target damage if you have 2 extra targets
opaque nova
fury in midnight is one of the harder specs to play optimal
scarlet swift
its not hard, its just not worth the effort when other classes do 40% less apm and do 40% more dmg
opaque nova
nah cuz wdym I parse 99 on lock chilling and tryharding my brains out on fury and parsing hardly 95
olive wraith
40% less apm 
charred flume
arms better then fury rn ?
opaque nova
they're basically the same unless you do not have double myth weapons on fury
and arms has cancerous button bloat
charred flume
i only have one myth weapon
charred flume
is it really that much of a gap in damage ?
opaque nova
if you don't have double myth weapons fury? yes
charred flume
cuz my weapon is a crafted 285 so it might be even worse lmao
scarlet swift
Imagine having 2 good weps
opaque nova
I'd play arms on my war if I didnt get lucky and got a 2nd twohand from vault
modest condor
offhand matters but you're making it sound like a way bigger deal than it is
the difference between a hero and a myth track offhand is like 3-4% or something
sullen dove
Imagine having 2 good weps
feel like u just pretty easily make a 285 crafted no
modest condor
not significant enough to tell someone not to play fury if you dont have 2 myth track weapons
scarlet swift
that requires getting pug invites to 9+s
also, side question: how do i get this to show i've killed heroic bosses?
high lagoon
yeah I feel you on that
opaque nova
cause wdym 15 rotational buttons
scarlet swift
pressing WW every 4th button annoys me, but i still like fury better
high lagoon
at this point and time both specs are great and can both push top keys
sullen dove
they could add rend to cleave
isnt that literally whats happening
the rend getting applied to ww fo rfury should surely extend to arms cleave?
or no
and its only for improved ww which is fury spec treem aybe
opaque nova
they need to remove rend and sweeping strikes from my bar
high lagoon
Im not sure swordish
sullen dove
i mean its not like its horrible for arms to hit rend
and rend's def better for arms
opaque nova
bake that shit into something I press anyway
opaque nova
ye remove sweeping and rend
high lagoon
im just so used to pressingh and tracking it
scarlet swift
remove WW if tclap is taken, remove CD from tclap
high lagoon
but i remember swapping from fury to arms was quit the learning curve
fury is alot less buttons but if you ask me its more conditional than arms slayer
scarlet swift
also, wtf are these mandatory dogshit nodes?
olive wraith
Please stop cooking
opaque nova
I bind my rotational abilities on 1-5 on all classes
I have cleave on F binded on arms
cause there is too many fucking buttons
unplayable
high lagoon
just takes some time getting used to
get a razer idk
Deez use the on the left, for the silence
its not dogshit its another interrupt
scarlet swift
i'll take 3% speed over a situational silence, i need the dps help
sullen dove
left way better than the right
high lagoon
speed is not dps
sullen dove
the right hting isnt even speed
high lagoon
arms is the hardest spec in the game right nwo
u can do just fine on fury
dont overthink it just have fun
opaque nova
like
high lagoon
I like arms but not everyone likes it
opaque nova
I know the priorities
but its just bloated and distating
to have every single fucking button glowing
distracting*
high lagoon
only over power execute and cleave glow tho
scarlet swift
speed is not dps
more auto-attacks = more rage = more dps
high lagoon
deez that talent is not for the attack buff
i mean sure 3 %
the good thing about it is the def stance
ure way better off getting
silence
and the hand on the right
forgot the name
opaque nova
when im on arms, mortal strike, sudden death execute, cleave, heroic strike, overpower
high lagoon
if dps is what you want, sorry for spam
opaque nova
every single fucking thing glows
high lagoon
That talent that u got @scarlet swift ppl use it for the dstance, the claw on the right hand side is much better for dps, just letting u know
next tulip
yo
was there a utility change warrior was supposed to have in midnight
something about preventing dying or i forgot
the thing they talked about in tww
lusty jungle
Down with hope, up with cope
next tulip
hahaha no but do i just remember something wrong
i just got a big brain lag cuz of it
edgy widget
aka <@61282228017041408>
keen kindle
ye remove sweeping and rend
For the love of actual fucking god
Stop staying
REnd sure
But Sweeping
REally
Okay let's just make it so arms has zero purpose. Good idea
keen kindle
oh okay sorry
high lagoon
hahah
keen kindle
I popped off for no reason. Yes it should be sorry
normal yoke
Hey gang, if you're trying to optimize gear for M+, is 1 boss Patchwerk with your M+ talents still the best way to Sim?
high lagoon
for gear yes as warrior doesnt matter, but for trinkets u gotta try diff sims
warrior will sim very similar in st or multi target for gear itself
but for trinkets its basicaly the 3 from raid
plume might be batter than gaze for arms according to my sims
keen kindle
Are there any trinkets we even want that would sim differently in aoe?
I mean
gaze did get nerfed
high lagoon
the only true debate is plume vs gaze for arms
i think plume is superior
but heart of hunger bis for sure
biz is runnin plume and hunger
left peak
Any IQ genius theorycrafter here than can tell his opnion on the PTR changes, can we finally go ham as Slayers
left peak
Hope they change it or comes close to thane, slayer alot more fun tbh
left peak
not as fun as fury slayer, faster pace imo
I mean atm i have no issue doing +14-15 as slayer, but thane is just alot better.
charred flume
are u doing 15 with slayer
left peak
Yes, fury
charred flume
thats kinda hard no lol?
left peak
exactly
charred flume
i see
high lagoon
meta only matters in like 17
even then
thane is good aoe
so no point in playing slayer fury
and the st is so close
high lagoon
https://raider.io/characters/us/tichondrius/Freddykruegs I have not been pushing yet
Im not that good lol
just farming gold and shi for now while the keys sell
left peak
I see, you play arms more it seems
high lagoon
ya for now i like it more
but I will start pushing soon enough once my buddy tank comes back
arms slayer is just more fun to me, I dont like thane
but i think theyre both good doesnt matter which u pick at the moment
young swan
im surprised to see so many people still say they enjoy slayer despite it being a heap of rng dogshit
drifting token
Residual feelings from tww slayer being good and not wanting to let go
high lagoon
I love slayer arms lol
yeah
tww slayer fury was def my jam
do you guys think colossus is just better at this point
left peak
maybe, but its so fkin clunky to player with that channel, dont like it personally
high lagoon
its big aoe and the funnel on boss is insane lol
spiral sonnet
execute
edgy widget
im surprised to see so many people still say they enjoy slayer despite it being ...
Theme good, gameplay too rng too little payout
Arms does Slayer so much better
young swan
yeah theme is cool
i will agree with that
but holy moly does fury slayer leave a rotten taste in my mouth
high lagoon
oh yah i was talking about arms
but im wondering if you get funnel on each boss, colossus might just be better
small tinsel
Just posted the below in the help tab to try get some advise on improving my rotation could i just check if the link actually allows someone other than myself to watch it ?
Never used this site before.
If it does work any tips and feedback is appreciated again ive posted in the Help-And-Log-Review Channel.
Found it easier to watch in 0.5 speed
echo rapids
but holy moly does fury slayer leave a rotten taste in my mouth
I feel like you end up casting so many shit damage RBs it’s not fun
drowsy heron
do we think the talent build for Slayer is going to change at all with the .5 patch?
restive peak
im surprised to see so many people still say they enjoy slayer despite it being ...
fury slayer is a travesty compared to last tier lol
strange drift
Low-key bring back execute coating rage and let's go back to basics of being a ramping class ngl Thane/slayer just feels ass to play
strong monolith
No thanks
junior gale
im surprised to see so many people still say they enjoy slayer despite it being ...
Honestly it's mostly because we had an entire expansion of only being able to play Colo in keys. And I for one am pretty sick of demolish at this point. So I am enjoying my time in slayer while I can. Even if the RNG is a bit much
drowsy heron
i'm a little hopeful about Fury Slayer after the 12.0.5 changes, especially if they buff RB
scarlet swift
if they buff RB it'll be hell cuz we have too much prio
drowsy heron
not really, BT is big for Thane cause of the TB procs but they are moving Reap procs away from BT so buffing RB means we wont want to press it as often
static edge
which buff do we take in AA?
drifting token
usually mastery but up to you what you need
smoky vale
what are we thinking on the allstar ranking votes
scarlet swift
im torn between feral druid and hunter alt, probably take hunter since they are immune to nerfs
small tinsel
Low-key bring back execute coating rage and let's go back to basics of being a r...
It’s mad how this full expansion was aimed for simplifying rotations and although it’s similar it feels so much more janky and less smooth
undone flower
what are we thinking on the allstar ranking votes
What are the votes ?
junior gale
what are we thinking on the allstar ranking votes
Is Warcraft logs finally voting which bosses to take off All Stars?
No way it ain't gonna be more than half of them lmao
smoky vale
smoky vale
its gotta be yes too all no?
waxen vale
yeah that’s yes to all
small tinsel
Low-key bring back execute coating rage and let's go back to basics of being a r...
I’ve not played many classes really as new to wow in general but levelled a paladin and these fuckers legit have like 7 total buttons.
A friend asked me on warrior in a standard m+ pack how many unique keys do you need to press and it’s mental
1 recklessness
2 avatar
3 odyns fury
4 Raging blow
5 whirlwind
6 rend
7 bloodthirst
8 rampage
9 Thunderclap
10 execute
11 rally
12 pummel
13 thunderbolt
14 spell reflect
15 heroic throw
16 wrecking throw
17 shockwave
waxen vale
your friend lied
small tinsel
I mean rend and whirl wind don’t need be in there
waxen vale
pally has 6
small tinsel
Ha ha it was me saying they had 7 and was just brought guessing it
waxen vale
oh I misread 😄
sullen dove
downtime thing absolutely
undone flower
But you can say to your friend, fury is a 5 button spec
waxen vale
but yes warrior got far less pruning than basically any class
small tinsel
Avatar and reck are the same button <:okayge:917646812519739433>
Yeah I should likely delete these comment before the police come out in force saying about the trivial rend whirlwind etc 😂😂
waxen vale
because we are an afterthought
rugged cedar
monk also didnt have rotation pruned much (it cant be pruned)
undone flower
downtime thing absolutely
Do you actually care ?
Or some weird stuff to skip one is happening ?
sullen dove
i mean itd be nicer to just see a higher dmg number
no
just like -30-40k on your overall for fun
or something
not like truly indicative of how much dmg u doin idk
waxen vale
that’s why we macro remove all aug buffs amirite
undone flower
Yeah Idc personnally
modest condor
I’ve not played many classes really as new to wow in general but levelled a pala...
pikachu use thunderbolt
small tinsel
But you can say to your friend, fury is a 5 button spec
Good shout most M+ users don’t use defensives and interrupts anyway so may aswell leave them out 😂🤦♂️
undone flower
It was not a joke
small tinsel
Yeah I know
undone flower
Just say how many rotational spell we do, it’s so pointless to count all the doggo util, everyone has 20-30 binds
waxen vale
the point that, if we wanted to, we have more buttons to theoretically push, is not wrong.
At least in comparison to like ret.
modest condor
adding rally but not impending victory or def stance sheesh
waxen vale
I cry watching people never push impending 🙁
modest condor
yes but realistically it's just gonna be on dev aura right
waxen vale
conc aura on evil paladins lowkey fire
modest condor
real
undone flower
He gotta count those if he want to Mickey Mouse bigger button number
small tinsel
the point that, if we wanted to, we have more buttons to theoretically push, is ...
Yeah exactly this
Not only that the questions wasn’t how many in your rotation it was how many do you press in a Average M+ pack
vast gorge
i really hope blizz fixes fury by 12.0.5 cuz im considering unsubbing.
young swan
i really hope blizz fixes fury by 12.0.5 cuz im considering unsubbing.
what do you want them to fix?
undone flower
Do we need fix ? I missed something
I don’t really understand I find fury thane the best version of thane and .5 slayer is slayer as it always has been
vast gorge
isnt thane getting nerfed?
young swan
no
undone flower
young swan
all of the stuff you probably want "fixed" has been (tentatively) reverted
quiet geyser
looks like bobby is keeping your bucks!
modest condor
bobby in 2026
young swan
you can read more about it in the updates link posted by happy
vast gorge
I still think we need more buffs. As of right now I would bring like 5 other classes to a m+ before I brought a fury warrior.
quiet geyser
furys great for m+ lol
biggest thing you should be asking for is just some ST buffs, which is just basic tuning
vast gorge
its great but why bring a fury when i can bring a ret?
undone flower
I find it fine yes, it’s just in top keys it starts to lack behind… the top specs
quiet geyser
its great but why bring a fury when i can bring a ret?
ret is giga S tier.. you can't expect everything to be that
undone flower
Just play ret this season
vast gorge
i can face roll on my ret paladin and do as much dps as my fury warrior
undone flower
2-3 months of ret and forget
tacit harbor
whats insane to me that we have to choose one ofd our only defensives outside of stance change and our cleave for aoe now -__-
undone flower
i can face roll on my ret paladin and do as much dps as my fury warrior
Don’t force yourself just play ret, we play fury because it’s more fun to us 🤷♂️
quiet geyser
i can face roll on my ret paladin and do as much dps as my fury warrior
again, theres a few changes to ask for regarding fury, general m+ performance probably isn't 1 of them. better ST is prob the biggest ask.. which in turn would ironically also increase our m+ throughput regardless
undone flower
You don’t have to stick to warrior to stay here, look at Camillax57
small tinsel
I want a 6th button at the very least
undone flower
Why
vast gorge
atleast ww will apply rend in 12.0.5 so i can stop worrying about reapplying it
undone flower
Not like you were applying it in m+ before, unless …
vast gorge
nah i run thane in m+
quiet geyser
why the fuck are u applying rend then
vast gorge
in raid i use slayer on st fights
quiet geyser
LOL
vast gorge
i was refering to raids
sullen dove
not like having to hit ww on st is any better
like .2% better maybe
tho for some aoe fights its better yea
quiet geyser
if ur referring to slayer in raid, you have so many fillers to press anyways (this version of slayer is absolute ass)
the occasional rend is w/e
scarlet swift
have tclap replace WW (thane obv) when selected, and give it no CD like WW
small tinsel
I mean the gripe for me isn’t damage, managed to secure 3.1k score in the second week as a new player it really can’t be that bad.
I just find it a little janky and although I feel that’s just my opinions can clearly see a lot of others saying the same
undone flower
No.
scarlet swift
also, would it be too much to give imp WW 8 hits, not 4? 4 is just too spammy in the hecticness of M+
undone flower
If it replaces ww and has no cd : just delete thunderclap since it’s just ww
vast gorge
@scarlet swift agree
scarlet swift
@quiet geyser why live in the past? it also used to take to level 40 to get a ground mount
stupid ass comparisons
at that rate, sweeping should be 4, not 2
quiet geyser
cuz thats probably 1 of the weirdest suggestions i've seen lol. Especially for Thane, you're going to end up pressing tc WELL Before 8 gcds anyways
scarlet swift
maybe, but i dont want to forget when i have 4+ prio procs at once
undone flower
I think Blizzard is cautious on it bc it becomes really broken really fast
scarlet swift
"im above 100 rage, i have 2 stacks of tclap, odyns is up"
undone flower
You just add 1 target to imp ww(se we become 6 capped), you gain 20% more AoE basically
quiet geyser
if you have odyns up, its almost like having 8 stacks anyways 🤷♂️
compact knot
i can face roll on my ret paladin and do as much dps as my fury warrior
good thing both specs are face rolls
scarlet swift
so make it 8 base
quiet geyser
sorry, dumb take.
vast gorge
good thing both specs are face rolls
i think fury is a little harder to play than ret
scarlet swift
you enjoy ww/tclap spam to do aoe?
compact knot
its still a face roll
quiet geyser
i think it being every 5 gcds (slayer), is perfectly fine yes.
undone flower
I don’t enjoy tc spam if it stays more than 1-2 patch
scarlet swift
why live in the past, ask for QoL, rets get divine storm
undone flower
Just play ret
bold bear
i think fury is a little harder to play than ret
imo the way thane plays in m+ currently is just as easy as ret, if not easier
undone flower
Leave us alone
small tinsel
Give me lust
quiet geyser
cuz fury has way more important things to fix imo than WW stacks lol which isn't even an issue
compact knot
why live in the past, ask for QoL, rets get divine storm
which is also target capped
btw
undone flower
If you want a AoE spender and imp ww delete, go play ret
scarlet swift
no, i hate using combo points, warrior is the only "free" class left
undone flower
They are the same thing
Rogue in 15.0 will have 100 combo points and you will understand it’s the exact same
compact knot
rage is pretty much just combo points
undone flower
Yes energy is not = rage
small tinsel
Buff our single target and leave the AOE how it is I feel the reverse of last season
I do good aoe and struggle more on single target
undone flower
Combo points = rage
compact knot
with how fury works buffing the st also buffs the aoe
undone flower
thing I want arms to get btw, charges system
compact knot
have to compensate with aoe nerfs prob
scarlet swift
why, give warriors an op season
quiet geyser
furys AoE isn't even that good.. otherwise we'de be broken on paladins and we're not
compact knot
lol
scarlet swift
all we do is zug, might as well make us good at it
compact knot
furys AoE isn't even that good.. otherwise we'de be broken on paladins and we're...
i mean this just isnt true for some specs
unholy is gross in m+
and awful on paladins
scarlet swift
execute has been "trash" for how long? its supposed to be insane
small tinsel
Would it not work by a slight buff and change to execute ?
undone flower
execute has been "trash" for how long? its supposed to be insane
For 0 patch long
Just play slayer
compact knot
like unholy does around the same dps as fury on paladins
quiet geyser
i mean this just isnt true for some specs
i know, but this talk happens literally EVERY season "fix fury st and nerf AoE" when they're AoE isn't even broken lol. minus last season... our AoE was broken
compact knot
the st was good too
pearl jewel
any tauren warriors out there getting like animation locked?
quiet geyser
we've always just had upfront AoE which is why it looks broken for raid
compact knot
they need to remove that ngl
small tinsel
any tauren warriors out there getting like animation locked?
Is this where my character basically leans over ?
scarlet swift
you seen hunters and mages aoe burst this season? ya lets nerf warriors
bold bear
they just need to kill the tclap spam to make the thane aoe rotation healthier and shift a little bit of our damage profile back to single target
compact knot
it does more bad then good for our spec
quiet geyser
they need to remove that ngl
i agree, but how lol... OF, BS, empowered TC's and TB's. they built the kit to be broken aoe burst
undone flower
Vote yes on alleria wcl poll to make war
pearl jewel
Is this where my character basically leans over ?
yeah when we just kinda stop swinging and fent lean
covert coyote
honestly keep the 50->25% TC CDR nerf, buff bt/ramp/exe to compensate. I kinda hate Tclap every other GCD for 30 seconds straight
echo rapids
honestly keep the 50->25% TC CDR nerf, buff bt/ramp/exe to compensate. I kinda h...
This would be totally fine
compact knot
they added a ranged spec that just does what fury was supposed to be good at but better
called dev dh
small tinsel
yeah when we just kinda stop swinging and fent lean
Holy shit I’ve been asking about this for ages I’ve never been able to screenshot it as it’s gone by time I get chance and I was starting to think it’s just me
strange drift
honestly keep the 50->25% TC CDR nerf, buff bt/ramp/exe to compensate. I kinda h...
whhaaaa you dont enjoy reck+ava>tc>ramp>tc>ramp>tc>ramp>tc>not enough rage
sprinkle a OF somehwere in that
pearl jewel
Holy shit I’ve been asking about this for ages I’ve never been able to screensho...
its like when we execute or sumn
echo rapids
actually leave it in for Prot, having constant Tclap during CD's is omega nice for gathering
strange drift
TC should've been left for prot only change my mind
scarlet swift
prot tclap spam is "fine" cuz it makes sense, tanks need to aoe
undone flower
TC should've been left for prot only change my mind
Tc is just ww reskinned why does it matter that much to you
covert coyote
maybe just for fury then. kinda stinks that in AoE we have 2 factors buffing non-TC buttons and we still spend 50% of the GCDs clapping cheeks
strange drift
my headcannon of a warrior is mczug therefore no lightning
undone flower
Just change the icon to ww and ww glow when TB proc
small tinsel
Tc is just ww reskinned why does it matter that much to you
Get rid of 1 declutter… declutter…. And more declutter
compact knot
i agree, but how lol... OF, BS, empowered TC's and TB's. they built the kit to b...
i wouldnt mind tclap and tb just doing less damage but lightning strikes becomes a funnel aspect
small tinsel
While we on shamans make Shamans tanks ffs they use a shield anyway
strange drift
Avatar existed since Warcraft
im talking about tc while using 2handers
undone flower
And thunder clap on warrior older than rampage
strange drift
And thunder clap on warrior older than rampage
show me a fury warrior tcing in vanilla/tbc/wrath
ill wait
IN a dps rotation
undone flower
Fury warrior doesn’t exist
slim coral
im talking about tc while using 2handers
compact knot
it was pretty common in dungeons
slim coral
Get cultured little gup
strange drift
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Mountain_King_(Warcraft_III)
fake news
compact knot
if you dual wielded it was pretty common for you to tclap to take less dps
if tanking in dungeons
and in raid there was always 1 person assigned
strange drift
if tanking in dungeons
"IN a dps rotation"
strange drift
and in raid there was always 1 person assigned
just have a fury prot
compact knot
in raid its assigned to a dps warrior
lmao
the fury prot did not tclap
he had to gen threat
undone flower
just have a fury prot
Classic specs doesn’t really exist
small tinsel
Gonna put 57 on e d of my name aswell seems the way to go
compact knot
warrior was the only fleshed out spec in classic
it had all its buttons ngl
everything else didnt exist
slim coral
Can’t be a classic fanboy and not a Warcraft one
small tinsel
Does 57 stand for the amount of key-binds we have
strange drift
Can’t be a classic fanboy and not a Warcraft one
As i said my headcannon is my headcannon lol
undone flower
Im a Warcraft 3 fanboy but not a classic one 
smoky vale
whats 57?
compact knot
atleast in any good raid the fury prot was not tclapping
slim coral
As i said my headcannon is my headcannon lol
Yeah but you contradict yourself
smoky vale
i dont think ive told anyone actual 57 lore
slim coral
You can’t ask for examples in vanilla when they literally exist in Warcraft
Fake fan!
strange drift
You can’t ask for examples in vanilla when they literally exist in Warcraft
fair point but i dont like it
undone flower
i dont think ive told anyone actual 57 lore
Don’t ruin it pls
strange drift
emphasis on "I"
slim coral
fair point but i dont like it
That’s fine to not like it but you can’t use lore as a point when it exist
undone flower
I like thane warrior general idea
slim coral
Yeah I mean Blademaster is what I wanted
undone flower
Some magic on my slaying
slim coral
But blizz is dumb
strange drift
Yeah I mean Blademaster is what I wanted
slayer was such wasted fucking potential
slim coral
Apparently we can’t have mirror image cause mages have it
undone flower
Yes blade master is big loss from Warcraft
strange drift
But it’s ok for 15 specs to have execute
"well akchually it's not named execute therefore they can have that :)"
strange drift
god i want mirror images as warrior
shadow paladin before we see that
slim coral
I’d argue mirror image is more iconic on warriors than mages
junior oyster
Isn't slayer just a blade master without mirror image?
slim coral
If you know the Blademaster lore
slim coral
Isn't slayer just a blade master without mirror image?
Kind of but not really
undone flower
Slayer is warhammer slayer 101
slim coral
A big part of blademaster is the mirror image and blinking
strange drift
kinda like master yi from league but add mirror images
slim coral
Whirlwind too obvi
strange drift
you just fucking blink around enemies and slit their throats in split seconds
slim coral
I’ve never felt more cucked not getting Blademaster
strange drift
while bathing in blood you are so fast that enemies think there's 3 of you
spare steppe
god i want mirror images as warrior
blademaster would be so fun
compact knot
it could have fit monk or warrior really well
smoky vale
@sullen dove meow
compact knot
monk even had SEF...
undone flower
Leap is a blink as blurry 
junior oyster
What's that outlaw rogue thing where they zip around and teleport and slash shit. Just give us that bit
Canonically, do blademasters wield only one sword?
hybrid yew
97% parse on heroic vaelgor & ezz 😎
scarlet swift
ya'll ever use the blademaster in WC3 custom games Angel Arena? good times
smoky vale
97% parse on heroic vaelgor & ezz 😎
good job 🙂
strange drift
pad the fuck out of orbs ig
hybrid yew
pretty much, try to keep up odyn's fury for orbs, and heavy cleave on phase 3
small tinsel
Is 122k dps normal lol wtf
small tinsel
pretty much, try to keep up odyn's fury for orbs, and heavy cleave on phase 3
Juicyyy will give that a spin
hybrid yew
my damage distribution
strange drift
I was happy from my averzian mythic kill ngl
hybrid yew
yeeeeessss
strange drift
since we are showing e-peen
hybrid yew
this tier is good for our cleavage it's great
small tinsel
Feck this is super useful thankyou I’m defo been missing shit started logging and navigating and getting used to logs
small tinsel
I was happy from my averzian mythic kill ngl
97 in mythic holy shit
strange drift
i like my guild but private logs are the bane of my existance
small tinsel
I’m not convinced I’m fluently doing my rotation correct in the first place if I’m honest. I just posted a video earlier in the help channel of 2 mins attacking target dummies don’t suppose if you get chance you’d mind having a quick glance
small tinsel
i like my guild but private logs are the bane of my existance
Why’s that by the way ?
slim coral
Canonically, do blademasters wield only one sword?
Yes
They are warriors of attrition
And mind games
strange drift
I’m not convinced I’m fluently doing my rotation correct in the first place if I...
heading to bed but from i can already tell u u are not using TC stacks correctly imo with the thunderblast also not hitting BT on cd and overusing RB is a major dps downgrade and remember to TC>RB if possible since in thane it can proc AVA which is fucking juicy
just a quikc glance i see a few aerrors hope it helps
also im at most a mid warrior parse monkey nothing more take my opinion with a grain of salt
small tinsel
heading to bed but from i can already tell u u are not using TC stacks correctly...
Honestly massive help much appreciated 👌
strange drift
Honestly massive help much appreciated 👌
Also please change that UI on God 😭🙏 and get some good CDM profiles I suggest luxthos one since it's solid and free also having like 30% of your total screen covered by bars is like the biggest noobtrap ever ever since I went into the world of fading action bars I cannot go back so I just suggest the entirety of luxthos ui it's a good starting point god speed friend and keep zug
small tinsel
Also please change that UI on God 😭🙏 and get some good CDM profiles I suggest ...
Awww man the Ui has been a real sticking point for me honestly I end up spending ages trying to adjust the smallest of things 🤦♂️
I’ll take a look at luxthos ui and give it a spin
strange drift
Tbh get luxthos one if you like to keep it blizzlike and efficient on fps
Elvui profiles suck FPS like crazy
loud field
tbf UI is vastly majority personal preference but there are some stinky things to avoid
sullen dove
holy
opaque nova
Lol no he meant make sweepin baseline
yes
like
bake that shit into something else
and make me not have to track or press it
because its annoying
tbf I could just macro it into some other button
but its not off gcd
and that is annoying too
smoky vale
holy
bro what
oh it was noraml
idc
man
stop your dumbass bait
fuck you @sullen dove
smoky vale
undone flower
sullen dove
11 but yeah
keen kindle
https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211...
Kinda peak gif
covert blaze
elvui in big 2026
you dont need elvui to make your ui good
but basically having every addon on default is serial killer behavior
smoky vale
@sullen dove come tank
sullen dove
covert blaze
you can dps too
sullen dove
bedmaxxing soon
smoky vale
1 key
covert blaze
gg
sullen dove
tomorra
my dk gained 20 ilvl today
did normal achievement run just got all the loot
including 4set and normal lura very rare ring
i did give away the gaze tho to someone's main who seemingly needed it
last nacelle
hi !, quick question warrior mate, i just sim myself for some enhantement, and raidbot tell me to put Eyes of the eagle on one ring, this one is a simbait and just go Zul'jin mastery or it can be good ?
i have 16% crit (393)
sullen dove
eagle is p good enchant think most ppl might be using it
it’s just like 1.25% crit damage or something like that
covert blaze
spongie off da perc
timid tide
Are there any addons that act like gtfo? That alert you if you are standing in stuff? Bigwigs/littlewigs should do that, but I don't want something that I have to set up for 15 min. just for that
lusty yew
Are there any addons that act like gtfo? That alert you if you are standing in s...
Bigwigs beeps with an alert - the sound indicates you are standing in stuff you shouldn’t be
timid tide
Gonna give it a try, but that addon has stuff like bars and what not and I don't want any of that
analog tapir
We need to make a petition to revert all the warrior changes for 12.0.5 except whirlwind applying rend
warm crag
We need to make a petition to revert all the warrior changes for 12.0.5 except w...
Why
Is this bad ragebait
junior gale
🪤
analog tapir
Not getting guarantee reap the storm proc from sudden demise is just so bad
They made sudden death proc worth hitting in aoe
warm crag
Me when i invent things to get mad at
junior gale
He's on a one month delay he just now got the initial 12.05 ptr notes
warm crag
Sudden death guaranteed procs a reap on ptr and as of ydays hotfix it doesnt need to cleave anymore
red berry
glad they changed it back. not being able to proc reap in ST sudden death procs withstanding is still concerning
but maybe they'll do some buffs for fury
covert blaze
@smoky vale that zhaidh guy in your stream keeps dying to aggro, he's too good
smoky vale
chudass dh
covert blaze
LOL
reef cape
i cannot get thane where it needs to be in AA, or is that just a slayer angle
indigo girder
guys can u share a raid bots simultation of ch? ty
undone flower
guys can u share a raid bots simultation of ch? ty
Ch?
indigo girder
character
indigo girder
ty bro
undone flower
If you want thane, take the original addon input at the bottom and change the talents in topgear
Im on the phone, I can’t do it
fading sky
terse ether
if you wanna push without team, go Thane
if you have a team or friends in that matter, play w.e
honest trail
How does it compare to thane overall ?
Weaker for now but prio dmg is better as Slayer
With 0.5 changes Slayer should even more decent
I do 16's atm as Slayer and it's really fine
ancient olive
is it just me or do sims always have a hardon for crit?
whenever I sim it's always the crit items it really wants me to have
digital ore
Same.
stoic loom
Probably because crit is good now
flat river
Did anyone play fury slayer in keys ?
slayer bis
honest trail
Crit is pretty good especially since you probably alrdy prio haste mastery by default
All you need next is some crit
mossy fox
agile notch
Lmaoo critcake
jagged socket
