fury

[candid falcon]

oh LOL

[sullen dove]

box way better/useful

[warm crag]

being benched on that fight goes so hard

[junior gale]

[candid falcon]

just wanted to double check lmfao thank you swordish

[lusty yew]

i need to ask my stupid one time newb question - for weapon enchants on a fury warrior we have two weapons - does enchanting with the the same enchantment (ie arcane mastery) work meaning like do they actaully stack? or do you need to enchant with two different ones for it to work?

Ty in advance!

[indigo arch]

It stacks

sim for best combination

[lusty yew]

ty wanted to check - yeah i saw it would sim sometimes with stacking but wanted to double check

appreciate it

[magic lava]

Hey yall, im a bit stumped here. When I run a sim it says I should be about 67k but im regularly sitting at 55k overall. Im 260 ilvl and just feel like im under performing. Any help?

[unborn delta]

55koverall on what

[magic lava]

55k overall dps

[forest berry]

well don't ever think u'll get same dps at what the sim is telling u

[vestal root]

yeah but the downside is you dont get to play fury and you have to play arms

[somber mauve]

😂 true and real.

[pliant jackal]

I never doubted arms warrior 🙃

[magic lava]

Fair but 11k less seems like a lot

[vestal root]

i cba recrafting and swapping stuff for arms

also colo is diseased spec

if i have to play colo ill reroll to dk or pala

[twin pulsar]

So don’t play arms

[vestal root]

indeed

[forest berry]

i think like 11k less is pretty fine tbh i'm supposed to have 85k on single target but i'm pretty far from that number

[twin pulsar]

You keep talking about this like your progression would be impacted by playing fury when that is not the case

[vestal root]

it wont yeah

[magic lava]

Ok thanks my guild keeps telling me it should be closer I think the just have my steessed

[pliant jackal]

I know critcake was talking about how he thought arms warrior is better in high keys for m+

[vestal root]

i probably wont do a +18 this season so its whatever for me

[modest condor]

usually fury's strength in m+ has been its singletarget, but this season even the singletarget is kinda meh

for now we still have decent aoe but it doesnt come close to colarms, and in 0.5 that's getting shot too

[vestal root]

i thing furys biggest strength imo is swapping targets and just adapting to situations on the fly

you dont have tons of checkmarks in your gameplay you just go with the flow

[pliant jackal]

I think he was running slayer arms

[vestal root]

yeah he said he dislikes colo arms

[pliant jackal]

Not colarms

Saying the st loss was too much

[vestal root]

but he played colo yday aswell, its big when you do nice pulls

yeah i meant st colo is oof

[modest condor]

slarms is just thury but arms

colarms actually stomps everybody in aoe

i personally dont really see the point of playing slarms at least until 0.5

[vestal root]

im sure 0.5 will have more changes

[wild plank]

[modest condor]

yeah they'll probably buff our st/5tar aoe

[vestal root]

if not ill just suck ass on fury this season

[young swan]

maybe this patch specifically but historically fury has been ass at that

[radiant plank]

bro just forgot about old frezny LOL

[vestal root]

idk xan2, i didnt have such issues in tww

on fury

[junior gale]

All it is swapping out jewelry when swapping between specs it's not much

[radiant plank]

gl target swapping losing 20% haste

XDD

[young swan]

i mean u did, u just didnt care about them

[livid arch]

Are there any numbers around different between slarms and slfury with current ptr changes? For st and mt

[modest condor]

every time you swapped targets you lost frenzy stacks

which is not an insignificant loss

[radiant plank]

Slarms on ptr

[young swan]

that still entails farming out a new set of gear

[pliant jackal]

I personally think having talents in talents is causing balancing issues

[quiet geyser]

Furys gonna need some decently big tuning changes to be relevant tbh

[pliant jackal]

Instead of balancing for two dps specs you need to balance for four play styles

[modest condor]

they're nerfing thane's uncapped burst by like 50%

[junior gale]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-5704388171529337323

[vestal root]

takes forever for some necks and rings to drop so yeah lol, trinkets even worse

[sullen dove]

my fury's already 1k behind that

[modest condor]

going from 150% every 2 gcds to 110% every 3 gcds is actually such a big nerf

[young swan]

trinkets are the same for both specs so that doesnt matter

but getting new jewelry is a pain

[sullen dove]

yea but now we do more prio damage haha surelly

now that we can hit bb

and hitting more bb means we get more tb

[livid arch]

I’ll end up playing sl fury, but curious how bad of dps it’ll be vs arms in m+. I feel like the difference shouldn’t be THAT bad? Lol

[sullen dove]

cluegi

[young swan]

Clueless

[junior gale]

Just get it by playing the game usually. I got rings and neck for fury already from keys

[sullen dove]

add cluegi

[crude flicker]

Guys, guys, we do this every expac. Why won’t we just play real classes

[young swan]

fury is already getting gapped by colarms

[quiet geyser]

Wouldn't even care if our ST and 5targ was good to compensate. But its not lol

[unkempt oasis]

I can't help but feel fight design isn't doing fury any favors.

[young swan]

[sullen dove]

yea in m+ its not gonna be a contest

[young swan]

we have it

[livid arch]

I’m aware sadge.

[pliant jackal]

Let’s play real classes like augment

[sullen dove]

arms is already owning and its gonna just widen the gap by like double in 0.5

[limpid tide]

Still don’t know how they look at classes and think yea warrior needs a nerf

[modest condor]

i still would

we've seen in the past 2 expansions what happens if you have good st/5tar but no uncapped aoe

you dont get to play m+

[fickle vector]

Where there fury tuning changes pushed with today’s reset?

[livid arch]

I need to learn arms but like I did a 10 as arms yesterday and it was embarrassing

[sullen dove]

truth nuke...

[young swan]

no

[limpid tide]

(I’ve resulted to learning arms)

[fickle vector]

Ty

[radiant plank]

Yeah Slurry tanking like -11% from PTR changes, arms is only taking -3% due to how small reap was for arms ST + them changing mortal wounds from cleave -> Slam

[pliant jackal]

Just let me play arms for great st and good burst aoe and fury for good constant aoe

[modest condor]

the only time we've been good in m+ was the season where we had a tierset that gave us banger uncapped aoe

[sullen dove]

last season presumably

[modest condor]

yes

[vestal root]

did that on colo yday i felt bad for my guildies

[sullen dove]

this was some peak

[vestal root]

had to swap to fury insta

[quiet geyser]

I mean the simple solution would be juice the shit out of TB instead (no idea why it was nerfed to begin with, stupid decision)

[crude flicker]

Im just at a loss for how a middle of the pack spec of an unfavorable class is the target when DK and Ret live at the top

[livid arch]

Weren’t we like 2nd best behind survival when we had uncapped bonegrinder in slands?

[crude flicker]

And its like clockwork each expac

[modest condor]

buff tblast 50% baseline

[quiet geyser]

More bt/bbs

Problem solved

[sullen dove]

idk what season u mean specifically but psure destro lock demolished survival in s3/4

[young swan]

because you're misinterpreting the changes as targeted nerfs when they're just rejigging our damage breakdown

[sullen dove]

when survival like famously got good with s3 tierset

[young swan]

the outcome is a nerf, but far from the intention

[modest condor]

well no, but yes we were pretty good then too but i was also talking about the past 2 expansions

[sullen dove]

i think s3 shadowlands destro lock was like the single most op a spec has ever been for m+ ever

[livid arch]

lol gotcha

[modest condor]

but hey guess what, we had uncapped aoe back then

[sullen dove]

in recent history at least

[rigid chasm]

.5 is still weeks away. pretty good chance there's additional tuning on top of any early changes that are likely more structural

[modest condor]

yes

[livid arch]

Bets are two. So one more week for tuning if any

[young swan]

the question has never been about whether or not tuning will come, its about whether it will be enough

[radiant plank]

Tuning on thursday

watch

[crude flicker]

My gripe is that every single expansion warrior is put initially into an okay spot and once we are seen as okay we are nerfed for no reason.

[stiff maple]

200% damage to thunder blast

[sullen dove]

the only thing that could possibly make up for losing st sd reaps is just like flat out doubling execute dmg right

not even thinkin bout aoe rn

[livid arch]

I’m dooming. I bet we see nothing this weekend/monday. and it launched as is on apr 21st

[sullen dove]

or ig if rb actually becomes a button too that would be cool but less interesting

[rigid chasm]

I mean yes that is true, but it raises the question of the purpose of pre-emptively being fatalistic about it when we have no idea where it will land

[young swan]

yeah i dont disagree, somehow we're disproportionately effected by changes that are meant to "fix" our design

[young swan]

because its warranted

[rigid chasm]

beyond vague and unfalsifiable "blizz hates warriors"

[young swan]

they have a shit track record

[modest condor]

we have several expansions worth of experience with blizzard

[livid arch]

They do just hate warrior

[stiff maple]

s1 tww was actually comical

[sullen dove]

whats crazy is how fury was still like top 3 specs in the raid after 500 nerfs

[rigid chasm]

I understand there are recurring baseline issues

[sullen dove]

they just hit the wrong fuckin things

and killed fury in m+ completely

fortunately i think arms was pretty good

but just so cringe

[crude flicker]

Thats the thing. We were “fixed.” I’m fully on board the train of im gonna play a class that always has a relevant spec that doesnt feel bad to play (arms)

[rigid chasm]

but I just think it's worth keeping in mind if you polled every single class discord and asked "does blizzard hate your class/spec" the response would be like 90/10 yes

[modest condor]

the baseline issue is that you either need to have uncapped aoe or be giga overtuned and blizzard historically doesnt like giving warrior either of those things

[young swan]

yeah but they are wrong

[rigid chasm]

lol

[pliant jackal]

Just put all our damage back in bleeds and execute like in bfa. Where we go from the bottom of the dps charts to the top when execute phase starts 🙃

[supple glen]

they dont hate it but it doesnt seem like they really know what to do with it

[quiet geyser]

This is a bias take though. It was good on brood and queen.. thats it

Very inflated stats

[sullen dove]

yea 2 of the harder bosses

still pretty good on court

[dry hawk]

I wish running a specific dungeon influenced vault

[livid arch]

Most those discords would be delusional

[crude flicker]

I think the problem with warrior is we are the vanilla sword class. Fuck all caring about us when you got Pala, DK, Etc

Plain jane system

[rigid chasm]

and those discords would....think you're delusional. the snake is eating its tail!

[unkempt oasis]

You have to always have a ret paladin in your back pocket. They shut the discord down if they bad.

[young swan]

the only discords that would be correct are rogue, priest, warrior, and the dps druids

[dry hawk]

Ran enough 6-10 nexus that I've been driven mad

[rigid chasm]

there are legitimate complaints, and then there are complaints like this, that have literally nothing to do with tuning or balance

[supple glen]

its the most basic ressource system, there not much room for fun stuff. they never add any abilities really

[sullen dove]

unholy dk went from being the best st spec in the game before the raid, to getting nerfed to be as bad as fury, to getting rebuffed to top 1 or 2 dps

all in a span of like 4 days

cuz they whined so fucking hard

and dk is blizzards melee love child

[rigid chasm]

I don't think it's related to whining, but I agree balance has not been very good this tier

[stiff maple]

Can't dks do most of their dps at 30yd range too

Disgusting class

[young swan]

yeah

very broken

[unkempt oasis]

Meanwhile we have to work hard for our damage.

[quiet geyser]

Tier is still new, and the race literally just ended.. they cant exactly do big changes while race is still on

Ya their pre judgement was horrible

[pliant jackal]

Warriors balancing is just so wild they are just so All over the place

[sullen dove]

idk they had ample opportunity in heroic week

[livid arch]

lol this is why I need a m+ team, they will accept me as the fury I am and not make me switch arms

[sullen dove]

or even like before mqd released

[crude flicker]

Wrong. Blizzard keeps implementing these changes to warrior because they cant figure out a spec system that balances and fits around a regular sword user. Why do you think all of our casual shits changes so much? Rend being cone etc

[sullen dove]

who cares what tuning they do if given several days warning

the guilds will play around which classes get buffed/nerfed

just be more fair to the rest of the players imo

[young swan]

i mean they intentionally DIDNT do any tuning for 3 weeks leading up to the race and then promised big tunings during heroic week and right as mythic started

and here we are

[crude flicker]

Warrior has no identity other than i swing hard and blizzard lets you know that

[supple glen]

nobody plays warrior, i get in a lot of pugs just for bs lol

[crude flicker]

But we not allow swing hard

I dont see any warriors in ougs

Besides prot

[quiet geyser]

Even blizz inhales their own copium

[sullen dove]

its crazy i could be like 281 today

if i got given mythic gaze

(prolly wont happen)

[pliant jackal]

I believe in you

[sullen dove]

[unkempt oasis]

I in you believe

[sullen dove]

ty for believe me in

[pliant jackal]

Fuck off 😂

[stiff maple]

I need to see that damn vorasius trinket and I can be done with hero crests

[quiet geyser]

Plume is just as good btw

[sullen dove]

i 5head knew that myth voras trink was soon on horizon

so just didnt upgrade heroic one

[ripe shore]

So, how bad we looking in M+ 👀

[sullen dove]

cuz wouldve been the easiest waste of hero crests

[stiff maple]

I will not be killing myth beloren this week

[sullen dove]

theres also no way...

[sudden tusk]

more like per-ish

[pliant jackal]

Post ptr? Or current

[sullen dove]

assuming plume goes down like linearly

its what 150 average crit?

at full uptime

[unkempt oasis]

Quiter talk

[sullen dove]

thats almost as much as crucible

just 80% instead of 100% and more strength on it

[quiet geyser]

No its in 200s

[sullen dove]

ig just lining up the peak of the trinket with cds is nice of course

[ripe shore]

Uh, after the nerfs to thane, or are they not in yet?

[quiet geyser]

Like 260 i think

[sullen dove]

4/6 is only 272 crit max

but it wanes

over 60s

[pliant jackal]

Not for another month

[sullen dove]

so assume like split it in half 136 is the average stat

across the whole time

if its a linear slope

[stiff maple]

Yea im stilling sitting on a 266 trinket

[ripe shore]

Guess that gives me a month to get used to playing arms

🤮

[quiet geyser]

🤷‍♂️ my sim has vol trinket and plume legit simming the exact same

[sullen dove]

yea i think it just def would be the uptime diff

[heady cobalt]

does anyone else have the odd feeling of doing less damage than before in a season when you are around 12-15 ilvl from cap? this seems to be a trend for me.

[sullen dove]

vorasius only like 30% uptime or something

if it lines up/procs with cds youre massive

if not it can be lower

plume just way more consistent

regardless yea no normal individual killing mythic belo for like several weeks still

mine 400 less than voras trinket

mastery version is about equal tho

oh wait

light is mastery

blue is crit

wack

ok yea had thems mixed up, only like 50 dps or so less

[pliant jackal]

Not having a good on use trinket feels weird

[stiff maple]

Yea the belo trinket Sims really similar for me

Alleria dies today or tomorrow but belo seems like a really dumb wall still

[quiet geyser]

On use actually feels better without am so everything just lines up perfectly lmao

[pliant jackal]

Yea lol

[dry hawk]

Nexus set rings are bis but , can I stop running this place

[fiery tide]

just get the eye of midnight and academy ring

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n7igdt8xhT6R1Po2ewE9nt

Vault said go this route

[limpid tide]

On vorasius is arms better

If you just sit boss

[lunar steeple]

i feel like you just go straight st on voras

as arms

[limpid tide]

That’s what I do on fury slayer

Ethical game play

Unless I get ad agro

[sullen dove]

if u just treat him as pure st dont think any real reason to play arms

fury just does more 100 to 0

[wise magnet]

radiant plume vs puzzle box in M+?

[vestal root]

depends on ilvl of trinkets but if you want to be sure sim it

on "vibes" id use plume

[wise magnet]

same ilvl, for ST plume sims higher

wasnt sure if it mattered for mostly AoE or not

[lunar steeple]

debating on herioc gaze vs plume gaze is more versitile if you play both specs it seems

[wise magnet]

i have a heart of the ancient hunger as other trinket

perks of being the only strength user in theraid group

[fading bane]

Box sucks in pugs for example, but if you have a planned route and you are aware off big pulls then Box is really good

[merry pewter]

noticed that the blizz ui gives you that indicator thing at 80 rage, is it still better to wait til 100+ or just send it at 80.

for rampage*

[fading sky]

100++

[wild plank]

wait til 100 dont rely on blizz ui

[fading sky]

Heck slayer outside cds 115/120

In cds 115

[winter shoal]

You don't always wait until 100

There's some nuance to when you send at 80 vs delaying

[fading sky]

Not if alternative is rend😀

[merry pewter]

is it possiable to turn that Blizz Ui thing off?

[winter shoal]

Slayer high rage ramp threshold is still 100

[fading sky]

Disgree

[undone flower]

With addons I guess

[winter shoal]

Search for "spell alert opacity" in settings

[winter shoal]

On what evidence?

[merry pewter]

awesome ty

[fading sky]

Sending at 100 has made me starved for what to hig

T to often

[winter shoal]

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/midnight/ActionPriorityLists/default/warrior_fury.simc#L49

[undone flower]

Starved, or hit rend and ww more than once ?

[fading sky]

This

[sullen dove]

i mean you can try that but then are you just dropping enrage

[winter shoal]

I mean you do you, but sims say 100 is the threshold for slayer as well

[sullen dove]

cuz thats a lot of globals to get to 120 rage with no reck

[fading sky]

Not rly though

Like its rly the same?

U go from 120 - 40 or from 100-20

Its the same buldin

[sullen dove]

yea but eventually you just hit rampage at 100

cuz why would you hit ww or something

than hitting an available rampage

[undone flower]

How many WW slayer apl does in the detailed report ?

[sullen dove]

my 5min sim has 1 single ww xd

[undone flower]

It’s normal to have 1-2 ww in 5 min

[fading sky]

Yup and thats where i tried balancin a bit more on a knifes edge

Man i just want ramp = 100 % chance of rb proc 12.05

Make easier brain

[sullen dove]

like if you are at 100 rage and you see you have like more than 1 second of enrage left and any button other than ww is available to press sure you can not hit ramp ig

[fading sky]

But i deffo 2 x ramp if nothin good 2 push in cds

[undone flower]

You don’t even take hack n slash now

[sullen dove]

just like not really worth thinking about that small minutia atp imo

[fading sky]

Thats what im doin if. I have 2 rb stacks

[sullen dove]

something like that wont happen that often i dont think

[undone flower]

You are rage starved in CDs?

[fading sky]

Nono

In cds i deffo send ramp if i cant bt

[junior hill]

any1 got talents for slayer M+

[fading sky]

Wowhead

[full topaz]

its about time the ring dropped

[compact siren]

@lost saffron

[livid arch]

Omission of light doesn’t exist. Haven’t seen it.

[odd crater]

Sounds like you’ve been omitting it from your eyes

[livid arch]

[lethal quiver]

would be amazing to see lura dye on rwf with this

[livid arch]

I got my 4th occlusion of the void yesterday and gave it to the UDK in my group who was missing it, so he could complete the set.

[lethal quiver]

i got one today on vault

[sullen dove]

naise

[west kraken]

i got its mate! lol

this weeks vault was cursed 🙁

[stiff maple]

I got speed pants

[willow obsidian]

My Sim is telling me to craft the neck, is this a trap?

[lost saffron]

@gleaming siren

DankeSchmidi

[compact siren]

DankeSchmidi

[compact loom]

raid bots sim suggesting a gaze trink hero track would be better than a mythic weapon but long term seems like the unwise choice

[spare steppe]

Heroic gaze is still nutty

But I’d go pants unless you believe in your guild to farm dragons

[runic acorn]

farming heroic/mythic chim every week is far easier than getting a mythic wep

[edgy widget]

ok I'm a lil less upset about my trash vault now

[vestal root]

yooo

[smoky vale]

gz

[vestal root]

also isee one weapon on back

arms archie

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

[edgy widget]

I've been arms all week

[pearl sequoia]

yO yOu NeEd ThAt?

[edgy widget]

solid 2% uppies

no big deal

[vestal root]

big

[frank dawn]

I still kind of want to off myself playing Arms on single target

but it is pretty pumping on aoe

[fast grail]

Heroic track Gaze of the Alnseer or Myth track Tier set piece

(No gaze, and at hero 4 piece currently)

[wheat lantern]

im assuming gaze

[keen kindle]

I'd sim

[dry hawk]

Sim but prolly gaze

[keen kindle]

But like 90% gaze wins, depends on ur current trinkies

[radiant plank]

2myffic tier slots and yall are looking at a hc gaze

[wheat lantern]

tier is so easy to come by now honestly

[lethal quiver]

i would always go for mythic track stuff

[rigid chasm]

so is gaze if you're killing H and M chim every week

[wheat lantern]

i just dont wanna roll against 400 people for gaze

[lethal quiver]

since i don't raid mtthic, the vault is the only source for mythic gear

[wheat lantern]

yeah gaze is a 1700+ increase , gaze it is , mythic tier trash

lets go do a heroic and see if the odds are in my favor first

[lethal quiver]

what trinket are u using right now?

[wheat lantern]

delve one and heart of ancient hunger champ track

[lethal quiver]

which one sim would replace?

[wheat lantern]

^^

that one

hunger stays

[static mountain]

looks like they nerfed the leg armour kit

did any1 else notice it?

[thorny zenith]

What are the funnel specs this season

[dry hawk]

Oh?

[radiant plank]

arms

[static mountain]

the kit i used on my legs give me 41 str+ 27 armor. the only ones i can see on AH give now 24 str

[dry hawk]

Same rank?

[static mountain]

nvm im cooked

[young swan]

arms

i think theres another as well

cant remember

[dry hawk]

[wintry sluice]

fury aoe at over 5 targets feels so bad after the nerfs

[dry hawk]

Were those nerfs today?

[lament lagoon]

is TC dead

[young swan]

what nerfs

they arent live

[dry hawk]

I was about to say

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480150567268909077/1234524411626000545/image0.gif

[olive wraith]

Fury so bad I can already feel the nerfs

[vestal root]

fury got deleted from my game already

prepatched

wtf

warrior has 2 specs now?!

[dry hawk]

Arms is fun to play without cleave every global

[spare steppe]

It has prot

[fading bane]

Its official

gg warrior

[brittle crow]

alright gamers

i got M omission of light in my vault

but fury is dead, long live arms

so i could take H gaze or M tier legs instead

[still iron]

is dungeon slice any good for fury?

[brittle crow]

seems like a M tier legs angle

[gray plume]

Been trying slayer and according to WoW head u just never use RB. Is it normal to have momentsw where ur just spamming WW when u have no rage to spend and nothing up?

[brittle crow]

u read wowhead wrong

u read it very wrong

raging blow is absolutely used above whirlwind

[quartz tulip]

Hey guys, I'm going to let you have this week without my presence. I feel like most of you are annoyed by my raid assist callouts and talks during the raid. I've decided I'll take this week off for you guys to decide if I'm actually a worthy member of this team or not. I wish you all good luck on loot and kills.

[gray plume]

hmm yeah must of been on wrong seection or something

ty

[slim coral]

Fury is not dead

[compact loom]

nowhere to go but up

[brittle crow]

M tier might be better long term than H gaze still tho

[slim coral]

IMO you should always take the tier

You can farm heroic trinkets

[brittle crow]

farm is a strong word

realistic chance i just keep rolling 1 on gaze

until im the last dps who hasnt got it

[slim coral]

It’s pretty easy to get a heroic gaze compared to mythic gear tho

You can’t farm mythic gear

[brittle crow]

dont u farm mythic gear the same way as h gear

once per week

[honest trail]

Less reliably

[summer quail]

tbf if you're going arms then gaze isn't as good as it is for fury anyway. bigger argument to take the legs

[brittle crow]

word

[wheat lantern]

lol pretty easy to get gaze

just offered 2 mil to someone who rolled 100

wouldnt take it

[slim coral]

No

Hero gear you can farm endless

[fiery hare]

can farm mythic gear,make voidspire pug kill all 6 bosses hard reserve loot ggez

[brittle crow]

hero gear but not hero gaze

[slim coral]

Yeah but you can farm trinkets pretty close to it on hero track

[wheat lantern]

not really , most of our trinkets are from raids , dungeon ones are terrible besides puzzle box

and rolling to win , at least for me is close to 0 chance

[toxic jewel]

solarflare prism is a solid choice

[bitter palm]

gaze is mid for arms

[sullen dove]

holy

[young swan]

HOLY MOLY

[sullen dove]

surely i get 1

cluegi

[young swan]

cluegi

is this the emote u want

or

[sullen dove]

what

i mean thats ok ig

a

[young swan]

cluegi

[sullen dove]

what is that

oh

its like a her doing speed try not to laugh i think no

[young swan]

idk what u want cause we already have clueless

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

yea cluegi is just like another clueless but is wearing a shirt or something

and has a weirder chin

[young swan]

oh lmfao

[sullen dove]

oh its a clueless in the shape of a pepe

makes sense

[sullen dove]

this also a good one

spongus might enjoy

[warm crag]

why would you not ping me for that

@solemn plover

[livid arch]

I just saw the AA timer change, can say I timed it pre nerf at 16. Riding that high

That dungeon sucks

[signal jolt]

damn no warrior buffs this week?

[spare flame]

anyone feeling like our ST dmg in keys is kinda ass?

like boss dmg

[toxic jewel]

no

better than most other classes

however in raid (when others are in raid spec) i sit at the bottom of hte dps meter while parsing 95+ lmfao

[spare flame]

it feels good when lust is up but feels so bad w/o it

idk

[livid arch]

I’m usually more shocked by how good my st dps is compared to other classes. I just assume I’ll do worst most the time

[tight ruin]

everyone always talking about legs being big but helm with socket is better no? both hero to myth

[spare flame]

that belt is sick too

[compact knot]

Helm with socket 10000000%

[spare flame]

you running thane or slayer?

[livid arch]

Thane so I just go in believing I’m here for aoe lol

[willow obsidian]

Hey does anyone know someone that does paid log reviews?

[full pumice]

oh great god

at least myth track boots...

[fluid kayak]

How do we feel about puzzlebox? They both would upgrade a champ piece and sim roughly the same upgrade wise. Not a mythic raider so m+ is the only source of mythic gear?

[wheat lantern]

those boots are juicer stats too , not bad

[left peak]

So are the mid season PBE nerfs set in stone or? what are the odds of reverse or changes

[calm swallow]

Yeeeeeeeee, and might I add, HAW

[spare flame]

found the league player

if blizzard smokes crack those changes are final, wihch i hope they arent

[left peak]

okee calm down CIA, you got me though

Maybe they find a middle ground

[winter shoal]

Your honor he's hacking

[dapper goblet]

piggy

[sudden tusk]

he stuck his truffle nose in the ground and aquired one

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-gif-27111274

[cedar geyser]

I keep running into situations on single target where I'm like one gcd short of having a button to press. bloodthrst/raging blow on cd, 65 rage. I'm not overcapping rage or anything

is this me sucking or is this the spec needing more buttons

I have like 1k haste

notably using ww as filler and not rend, if that matters?

[sudden tusk]

assuming you are playing slayer

[cedar geyser]

ye

[sudden tusk]

you want to cast rend before you raging blow for overall fight econ

[cedar geyser]

fuck my chungus life

[sudden tusk]

slayer sucks to play rn

[gleaming marlin]

@sullen dove thoughts

[cedar geyser]

every time or just to maintain dot

[dense hawk]

wasn't ther a warrior patch today???

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-good-great-okay-gif-3834693388862500286

[gleaming marlin]

just missing gaze lowkenuinely

[charred flume]

is thane still the way or is slayer the switch for m+

like aoe wise

[sullen dove]

right now thane

in a few weeks if nothing else changes u play arms or you explode

but more stuff will prolly change

[charred flume]

oh no

[sullen dove]

surely

[charred flume]

is the change that bad ?

[sullen dove]

for fury ya

[wheat lantern]

arms is so trash , please no

[charred flume]

really?

[bold bear]

it's just gaze here right? already crafted bracers with myth crests

[charred flume]

why is the change like devastating?

[livid arch]

bruh, i got heroic gaze in my vault but the 272 pants that i can max out are so much better

the urge to ignore the sims

lol

[dense hawk]

w vault??

[modest condor]

ok so you know how we are 5 target capped right

[gleaming marlin]

isnt the chance of getting gaze way lower than better pants?

[modest condor]

except for thunderclap/thunderblast

[charred flume]

yes

[modest condor]

now, one of our talents increases clap/blast's damage by 50% and reduces its cooldown by 50% during avatar

that's basically the only reason we're doing good uncapped aoe right now

[charred flume]

ahh

[modest condor]

they're nerfing that to 10% damage increase and 25% cooldown reduction

effectively nerfing our uncapped aoe by something like 50%

[charred flume]

oh no....

[modest condor]

yeah it's bad

[livid arch]

i dont mythic raid, so they are about the same. (only mythic track i can get are from pushing io which is what i actually play this game for)

[charred flume]

how do u even mythic that lmao...

u might aswell just go ST slayer and just delete bosses lmao

[modest condor]

that would work if slayer actually did good st

[charred flume]

lmao....

thats not good

[modest condor]

we're hoping for a singletarget/5target buff as compensation

but we all know that's not gonna be enough

because no uncapped aoe = no invites in m+

[charred flume]

so what are we like dummed down to lvling class now lmao?

unlucky

[brittle crow]

my guild is having everybody vote who should get pieces of gear?

im never getting gaze dawg

[neat jetty]

Anyone have advice here? Its hero track Gaze vs socketed myth helm. Current trinkets are hero Guidon and myth Heart. Gaze is tempting but the helm would overtake it after a week or so of crests, yeah?

[modest condor]

how likely are you to kill mythic chimaerus?

[chilly fractal]

Looks like he is

[neat jetty]

We're already killing him, but prob unlikely I'll get a drop over any of the ranged

[modest condor]

check how big the difference is between hero alnseer and myth alnseer

if it's small just take the trinket

[chilly fractal]

You may get a myth helm off nexus king you can cata this week

[balmy shore]

i no longer care about damage parses only boss damage

[livid arch]

i feel as though that works even worst against us

lol

[restive peak]

Welcome to the crew been here for years dawg

Kill boss win game

[winter shoal]

Really glad addons died so that I could have this on chimaerus

(spoiler, there's supposed to be a whole cdm there)

[balmy shore]

ok but it's like SO bad this tier

[restive peak]

Yeah it's a pad fest

[balmy shore]

i'm doing less damage week to week because i can't yoink add damage but doing more boss damage

LOl

[restive peak]

IDGAF for padding, if a fight requires an add swap I do it but I'm still tunneling the add, like I'm not gonna tclap spam on 7 adds when 6 are irrelevant lol

Degen behaviour

[wheat lantern]

someones angie

[restive peak]

Don't troll @winter shoal for his sick UI like that dawg

[balmy shore]

yeah it's fucking degen

i hate it

[restive peak]

The partitions slowly move to boss dam anyway as a patch goes for that reason xD

[modest condor]

boss damage parsing since my first tier 💪

[restive peak]

Eventually adds just get 1 banged out

Silm is the GOAT for a reason dawg

[modest condor]

good times

[balmy shore]

old

[restive peak]

Atta boi

[modest condor]

c'mere little girl let me tell you about ye olde days

[restive peak]

Holy fuck man BFA was so long ago but does not feel as long ago as it was

[livid arch]

lmao. my dmg to boss parses are better than my normal parse. I FOR SURE thought I was a padder

[modest condor]

also calling bfa old sheesh

[restive peak]

My salad bar parse is #195 world, #16 boss dam

FUCK PAD KILL BAWS DAWG

[modest condor]

wanna see the funniest thing

[restive peak]

Silm we are old dawg, it's time to accept

Yes

Obvi

[modest condor]

this was my zul not-boss damage parse http://puu.sh/KLeNi/f8c70aecbd.png

[balmy shore]

pad has always been stupid it just feels way worse this tier idk man

[restive peak]

LMFAO

I have 1 of those a tier man

[dry hawk]

time to pad council lol

[restive peak]

Where I have like a low parse and it's a 90+ boss dam

[winter shoal]

I had r1 soulbinder boss dam last tier and it was like a 40 overall

[restive peak]

xDDD

[restive peak]

It's cuz we do dogwater ST and are only good on the AOE fights sadly

[hushed walrus]

i don't see warrior's buffs on patch note

[balmy shore]

i know why lincc im just here to complain alsdjfoaiwejfsldkfjwoleihalisdkfj

[modest condor]

that makes sense because there are none

[restive peak]

COMPLAIN JACKIE GET IT OUT

[hushed walrus]

maybe a bug ?

[balmy shore]

asdlkfjawoeifjklsdjfksdlf

[restive peak]

https://tenor.com/view/kelso-damn-jackie-gif-18217058

[toxic jewel]

i wish fury had better ST damage

[restive peak]

We're too chill when we're bad tbh, blizz don't GAF

[delicate fiber]

Do yall like using the puzzle trinket or do you prefer a different one

[restive peak]

If we pulled a ret pala who knows but also...too much effort

[balmy shore]

i hate puzzle box

[restive peak]

Puzzle is annoying but insanely, insanely good

So like I use it but I hate it?

[delicate fiber]

I got a myth track one in my vault… but I hate it

[balmy shore]

simply get these ones

[restive peak]

If you're not high end mythic raiding it's your BIS probably for the tier man

If you are, you want those 2

^

Which are early/easy bosses anyway so just gotta get lucky

I pray for my mythic patchwerk boss trinky this week

[balmy shore]

plume good too if you're raiding but yeah if you're m plus gamer than pee box good

[delicate fiber]

Pee box it is then, not sure if I’ll ever mythic raid

[restive peak]

Ye you want it

It's insanely good for AOE pulls, esp lusted 1s

Like 600k peaks vs 450k peaks type of strong for that

[delicate fiber]

Add it in the rotation whenever it is up?

[restive peak]

Right before CDs yes

Like if it comes up and CDs are 20s away wait

But otherwise every CD set it's up for, yes

Most annoying is using it in raid, in M+ it's w/e cuz tank is usually gathering anyway

[rich basin]

am i not able to do a /cast rampage /cast bloodthirst macro? it only does the first line

[restive peak]

Prob need castsequence but also if you're trying to do that just go 1 button blizzard thing

Cuz that's not a good macro in any capacity

[restive peak]

Sometimes you'll wanna ramp back to back, sometimes in thane you'll wanna send all 3 BTs

[restive peak]

FUCKA YUA SWORDY

[rich basin]

if ramp is up, im going to ramp. if its not up, im going to bt

[sullen dove]

yea

[rich basin]

im still gonna have the buttons

[sullen dove]

on 2 separate keybinds

not a macro

[restive peak]

But that's not always right

If ramp is up and you're enraged and sub 110 rage, you'd BT on CD

[rich basin]

yall i understand what im doing lol

[restive peak]

Ok well that macro will never work, you're looking for a cast sequence, and noone here will have that because it's a direct DPS loss

So sorry for offending you

[balmy shore]

I JUST GOT THE HEROIC GAZE BUT I DON'T HAVE THE CRESTICLES

[restive peak]

I got heroic gaze week 1 vault and that's all

[young swan]

i have myth box in my bank and mythic leech gaze + heart on my character

im kind of a beast

[restive peak]

Xan ballin uncontrollably bro

[balmy shore]

what's it like to be a

GEEK

[left peak]

You guys using the built in blizzard timers or DBM/Bigwigs?

[stoic loom]

i passed on puzzle box in the vault

thats how much i dislike it

[frozen portal]

why is the hero neck off saladbar simming lower than the champion necki have

is voidsong just that strong

at champoin, with haste/mastery i guess

[sullen dove]

yea i mean ur not proccing the dmg bonus with any of ur gear currently

is just stats vs stats

clearly seems it wants u to have more haste than more crit

17% is maybe a little on the lower side but also i mean just 258 stats will be lower in general

[frozen portal]

so like

i should justtake ilvl and worrya bout this once im weihging mythic/hero gear right?

[sullen dove]

yea ilvl on everything except for jewelry/trinkets is almost always better cuz of raw strength, but simming stuff as u get it is good

neck/rings and usually trinkets too are the only thing that can heavily depend on the item itself

cuz they give no primary stat in case of jewelry and some trink effects way better than others

so in case of ur necklace it has no strength so the secondaries are all of it's value

and considering you're already kind of low haste it's probably really bad to drop a 200 haste necklace for one thats like 200 crit and like 20 haste

can hold onto the crit neck for like arms or something tho if you'd ever want to play that

prolly rly good for that

[crystal summit]

I can't keep up with logs after getting decent gear at 270

It's too fucking fast I feel like my icons aren't showing up as fast as I need to click shit

And it's messing up my rotation. Did Greta first few weeks on raid and now I can't keep up with my potential with raid buffs and huge stat increases from gear

Sad

[onyx spire]

do you guys pop puzzle box before cds?

[winter shoal]

You should yes

[left perch]

congrats or sorry that happened to you

but I’m not reading all that

[thorny zenith]

If RL tells melee to prio boss dmg on chim is there a world where you'd swap to Arms? For M prog

since boss dmg is so much higher there

[sullen dove]

i dont think it... is really..

fury should have more boss dmg generally like almost always probably

[odd crater]

Totally read that as guzzle box at first, ngl

[winter shoal]

smish is it impWW slurry for beloren hc or

[undone flower]

You have some sustain AoE with the bird adds so idk

I played thurry

[winter shoal]

fountain you mean

but ty happy

I appreciate you

[undone flower]

Whatever fight so play whatever

[winter shoal]

idk I'm trying to sauce on some boss dam logs

[undone flower]

Boss dmg, I got 99 overall dmg on beloren

[sullen dove]

prolly idk

is there ever a time u dont play impww on this spec ever

[honest trail]

No

[undone flower]

mythic oab reclear

but you always play imp ww in midnight since it does more ST dmg than the ST build technically

100 dps gain to have ww giving you 3 rage

[honest trail]

It's more like what else are you taking

We need the point to unlock the tree

[undone flower]

ER

[honest trail]

Not a dps point

But y it's the only one

Also why am I awake talking to fury discord at 5am

[undone flower]

vault in 23 min

[winter shoal]

gg happy

[undone flower]

G G

[vernal mulch]

is the eyes of the eagle enchant good? sims seem to prefer it but i dont see it recomended in archi's guide on wowhead

[granite elbow]

12.0.5 looking like a Slayer swing right?

[winter shoal]

Depends on the rest of your stats but yes it's good in many cases

[vernal mulch]

oh interesting. ok

i thought it was sim bait or smth lool

[dry ether]

Anyone know if theres any good Timeline Reminders profiles available for fury war for different mythic bosses so far?

[winter shoal]

Big myth weppy

[coarse nest]

GUIDON

arms time

[winter shoal]

Fuck you

[undone flower]

likely wep or chest

[coarse nest]

for sure wep ye

[left peak]

Easy choice?

[coarse nest]

ngl i might take guidon but im also an arms nut

[undone flower]

second war got blessed with a weapon too

[vague valley]

:(

[vague valley]

wtf

Whats best for sim?
Dungeon slice or Patchwerk ?

In dungeon slice have +4%
in patchwerk +1%
pref m+.

little bit confused 0_o

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1347646810457636974

[subtle lynx]

I'm not raiding at all; currently have a 263 Puzzle Box, off-hand weapon is 263. Is weapon the obvious choice?

[vague valley]

sim will help you.

But puzzle box its very power trinket

+1000 mastery

for 20 sec

pre-pull use and u have big open during trinket

[subtle lynx]

Yeah I have the 263 one currently. Great for M+, I need to sim, being lazy though.

[vague valley]

imho btw

+806 full heroic upgrade

[echo scarab]

In a perfect world, you Rampage exactly at 100 rage every time yes?

[hearty viper]

sorry if this is asked alot but is it normal to do so low dps in single target? i feel like im doing something very wrong

[coarse nest]

No not exactly

It’s a general guidline so you waste less rage

I haven’t looked myself but I’d guess Revvez has an apl that hyper optimizes rage

Warrisarri maybe does too idk

[echo scarab]

I dont understand what that means loll

APL?

[coarse nest]

Action priority list

Also I could be just making that shit up so take it with a grain of salt lol

But 100 rage isn’t exact

[echo scarab]

I'm missing something and idk if it's just optimizing fight uptime on mobs or what, but I'm fighting for my life to break into top 10 damage done in my guild raids and it feels really bad most of the time

[gusty compass]

How big is the Nexus ring combo?

[coarse nest]

.3% for me

st sim

[hardy cargo]

did about .5% of my dam in a dungeon earlier, havent raided this week yet

not bad for not losing any stats

[echo scarab]

Warcraft analyzer is telling me im skipping Rampage over 100 rage, but in the examples its literally the next cast every time, not like im foregoing Rampage entirely

[gusty compass]

Got the choice Nexus ring crit haste one in Mythic or Gaze HC the sims says the ring combo

[coarse nest]

Id take ring

[echo scarab]

shit is driving me crazy I feel like I should be doing so much better for my gear and effort

[hardy cargo]

if you are at or above 100 rage, cast rampage

rb is a pretty shite button

[echo scarab]

Im doing that

yet im parsing like shit

ive had 2 fights over 90 parse

[coarse nest]

During reck do you spam rampage or do you still play 100 rage?

[echo scarab]

spamming ramp

[hardy cargo]

the ss is saying u had 100 -> casted rb -> casted ramp at whatever rage u had after rb + presumably autos

you ought to post a log in #1347646810457636974

people will be able to analyze it and assist you further

[echo scarab]

I did im just impatient and this is bothering me right now becuase im boutta get benched from mythics lol

during Reck I'm prio Ramp whenever possible > TB 2 stacks -> BT -> TB -> RB

should I not be hitting Ramp whenever possible during Reck?

[hardy cargo]

its more like ramp > 100 rage -> TB2 -> BB -> ramp regardless of rage -> TB -> CB

[echo scarab]

BB under 100 rage is prio?

fuck ive been doing that wrong then

[olive wraith]

Bb kinda fucks

[echo scarab]

I do have 4 set so I assumed Ramping as much as possible for the Odyn CD was worth

[hardy cargo]

when u spam ur rage down without abilities on cd like that you end up needing to fill more globls with shithole buttons like rb

[coarse nest]

As long as you don’t overcap rage or rage starve yourself out of enrage you’re good

[echo scarab]

oh fuck that actually feels better too

letting the rage sit instead of starving it by spamming ramp during reck

[fluid fable]

Hey wondering if i open Vault as arms or fury or does it not matter anymore ?

[snow edge]

Arms still, otherwise you run the risk of getting a 1h

[fluid fable]

Ty King

[sullen dove]

almost certainly fury doesnt drop 1hs anymore no

removed them being able to use em this xpac

or like.. removed smf so they now flat out should not use them ever

[random shadow]

You cant get 1 handers anymore. If you check the adventure journey for loot in keys. Fury doesnt have 1 handers anymore. Then switch to prot. 1 handers show up again

[undone flower]

i opened 6 vaults on fury loot spec, you can't have 1h

[snow edge]

Oh shit, nice

So essentially.. zero difference now

[random shadow]

Its ok. The ptsd we've gained from it is still here with us

[snow edge]

[stoic star]

Hot Take: Blizzard nerfing the game and making it easier has allowed bad players to power creep into territory they don't belong and brick everyone's keys.

Ive never seen so many bad players around the 2600io-3k range.

[olive wraith]

They existed before hand too

Proof: me

[stoic star]

I just feel like i go and list +10's on my mid geared alts ~260iLvl with 4 set, I invite players that have timed all their 10's (somehow idk) and they die 11 times before the first boss and forfeit the key or ALT F4. Leaving me stuck with a 9 a few minutes in. I know its part of the game but god damn man.

[honest trail]

I can understand complaints about raids being easier (if that's the case), but keys having infinite difficulty.....

If ppl who couldn't time 10 now do 12

You just gotta do higher

🤷‍♀️

[stoic star]

Yeah but shitty players are in 10's where as they weren't before. Im doing Alt Keysf or Vault and the Weekly.

[honest trail]

Do higher weeklies

What's the issue

if they're easier?

[stoic star]

Lol

As if id be pushing 14's for io on my 260 alt to fill its vault.

👍

based take

[honest trail]

if 14's now are 10 from before

What's the diff for you

[stoic star]

Lol

[restive comet]

just do they key, ez

cry less, discord

[honest trail]

Casuals are the reason you can play this game

Having them be able to do more stuff is nice

The 15 Nexus this week
To not get the set ring
WERE WORTH IT
I HAVE NO REGRETS

[young swan]

dont think its unreasonable to be upset with blizzard for fucking up tuning on 10s

[honest trail]

All hail the Great Vault

[honest trail]

It is to me

Just do higher if you're unhappy with the ppl you play with

Difficulty is infinite, tuning doesn't matter that much

Balance between dungeons/mobs etc do

[young swan]

or they could just get better so i dont have to suffer through a 20 wipe 10 because they cant locate the kick button

[honest trail]

But you can't control other people

You can only control yourself

[young swan]

blizzard can

[radiant plank]

12's are the new 10

[young swan]

by increasing difficulty

[honest trail]

You can't control Blizzard either

[young swan]

u know this season had a 94% completion rate of 10s in the first week

[honest trail]

I just have the mentality on only focusing on myself

& what I can do about things

[honest trail]

I have very little comparison & I don't see a problem with that

Why would I

[young swan]

previous seasons had ~70% iirc

[honest trail]

If you'd only ask me, I'd remove Great Vault entirely & have myth track dungeons items in higher keys

lol

But that's how it is

Btw

15 Nexus Point

To get 0 ring

But it was worth it

[young swan]

ive done 25

🤷‍♂️

[honest trail]

Great Vault wins

[undone flower]

still no set of ring, but i didn't chase them yet tbf

it is 0.5% increase if i member

[young swan]

something like that

[honest trail]

It was 0.7 for me as hero

2% as myth

Had shit rings for a while

[undone flower]

i have biffurcation ring, it is a very good stated one

[honest trail]

From Terrace y?

never seen that one either

[undone flower]

y

[honest trail]

But it's good

[undone flower]

0.4% now

[honest trail]

Still decent!

[orchid galleon]

Boots anyone?

[honest trail]

2 weap & trinket!

[orchid galleon]

Ye I'll probably have to hold until we reclear paladins

If the weapon drops on mythic, I can take the trinket

[honest trail]

Isn't nice to take it so someone else can have it if it drops?

[orchid galleon]

There's nobody in our raid who really needs it

[undone flower]

not very contested trinket

[orchid galleon]

Oh

[honest trail]

I meant weapon

[orchid galleon]

I won't get the trinket if that's what you mean

That shit is going to our dks

[young swan]

is it even good for them

[undone flower]

still didn't drop in raid ?

[orchid galleon]

And I have the trinket on heroic

[young swan]

dont they want guidon/plume/gaze

[orchid galleon]

I have heroic heart and mythic gaze

[undone flower]

idk

[orchid galleon]

I don't think we're ever gonna rekill bird until after prog is over

So the chance for them to get the mythic plume is pretty low I think

[gaunt anvil]

is it insta weapon pick?

[honest trail]

So myth set ring on main, myth weapon on alt warrior

So far so good

[white relic]

weapon i guess (big pog)

[young swan]

never seen so many people seemingly complain about a bis weapon...

[slim coral]

get use to it bud

[white relic]

well i'm not. its the best upgrade i could get from the vault (m+)

[young swan]

banger

bis weapon

poggers

[gaunt anvil]

Seems like 👍🏼 (but as they always say, better do a sim really quick just in case)

[white relic]

+1380 weapon. second pick would be trinket with +400

[keen kindle]

Highly consider looking at solar

[twilit harbor]

prism is bait, right? gaze and heart easy loot when my guild starts mythic this week

[honest trail]

Myth catalyst head is good

[forest berry]

don't need to reveal other items, my life is complete

[undone flower]

which gambling addict addon is this

[forest berry]

lucky vault

[gaunt anvil]

Will do, ill sim it, and think about it cause since im raiding im prolly gonna get the trinkets "fairly" easy but the weap is more of a stretch

[elder plover]

I got a Mythic Track Puzzlebox or a Hero Track Heart trinket, Which would be best?

[honest trail]

Myth puzzle is very strong but very annoying

[forest berry]

i'd say heart trinket *

[dusky dawn]

Hello, if I put my OF into my Avatar/Recklessness macro, is the game going to reliably apply the dmg buff from Avatar to OF, or am I better off just pressing two buttons very quickly? 😛

[elder plover]

Yeah thats what I was thinking, Running the sim the now

[honest trail]

if you put OF at the end of the macro, yes

[dusky dawn]

Thanks!

[smoky vale]

you shouldnt do this because you want to of before avatar and have your first global of avatar be rampage or thunder blast

[summer quail]

and sometimes you want to send odyns but no reck/ava

[tidal cargo]

guys I need help

I got Myth Weap and Gaze of the Alnseer HC Trink in Vault.
Sims say Gaze, but im not sure if Myth Weap is better longterm

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v8anfTehAwFz5sEv78PaVU

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qy53VDzCXvxNhb3Z6UzoG3

[dusky dawn]

Disclaimer, I'm really just in my learning phase of not only fury, but of meele dps as well. Focusing on minmaxing rotation hurts my dps in a raid, and on the dummy I didnt notice any dps loss when I just use the three or four buttons as soon as they come off cooldown 😄
I feel like its more about the speed at which you press the buttons, not necessarily their order 😂

In a hectic raid fight, I struggle to keep up with the insanely short GCD, and it's a major dps loss for me.

So Im trying to limit the number of buttons as much as possible

[fossil moss]

You can macro them together and you'll be fine

[lyric lily]

So what’s the secret to parsing above 80 for council fight?

I felt I was on top of it all and still only got 80. For reference, I have four orange parses for the bosses prior

[lean osprey]

Clap paladins with thunder

[lyric lily]

Well yea lol, I was doing that

[smoky vale]

having them all die at the same time

and not slowly single targetting one down

[slim coral]

you can carft a mythic weapon

you cannot craft a mythic gaze

[analog matrix]

But its hc trinket

But I guess Go trinket , maybe you will never see it again 😬

[uneven plaza]

I‘d do heroic Raid (the boss the trinket drops from) first to see if u‘d win it and then decide

[analog matrix]

Ye Thats a good plan 👍

[gleaming helm]

i have the same problem but i got myth trinket and i already have hc gaze

[edgy widget]

Depends on which you think you’re more likely to see again/drop naturally

If you think myth gaze is potentially reachable, then taking HC is kind of wasteful

[vast karma]

Hi guys, should i play fury or arms if i'm rerolling into warrior

My main is sub rogue rn but it's starting to get boring

And i wanna play something with a tank spec

[glossy mirage]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wRwtNdfTrXL9EQmyckL5ta
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/95yWm4CA3UgKsM53NvpQip

Should I take the myth gloves or heart of wind myth?

First sim is without upgrading my gear
2nd is maxxed out crests and upgrading what I can before picking vault

[versed cipher]

I have hero gaze and mythic wep in vault but mythic boots sim the highest?

[analog matrix]

You have to Test for yourself, I Tried Both and only Like fury , but many ppl love Arms too, so just go try some keys with Both Specs and See what you Like more ig

Both specs are good though

[vast karma]

Fury seems to have a lot of things going on 😭

[analog matrix]

Thats what I think about Arms 😂

Test fury first and then Arms and then come back to fury 🤓

[fiery osprey]

I would take gloves personally, cause ur btr off w mythic alnseer from chim

[tidal cargo]

i have myth crafted weap

[tidal cargo]

chances to get a myth weapon are way worse than getting trink alteast on NHC/HC

[tidal cargo]

its not for me atleast

[tidal cargo]

and weap is only obtainable through vault again OR Paladins, which is worse than getting the Trink

[heavy dock]

most of the things going on u can ignore, they happen naturally just click your buttons xD

[indigo sigil]

not bad i think

[vast steppe]

What are you referring to?

[indigo sigil]

RIO score mm+

[vast steppe]

[indigo sigil]

I have never scored so many points in such a short amount of playing time.

[tired bane]

Banners it is i guess 😢

[sullen dove]

what

[granite crown]

Why is the screenshot 200% saturated

[tired bane]

Weird effect from my monitor lmao

I had to choose between banner MM, shoulders MM or a necklace HM...
Necklace seems higher but is farmable

[granite crown]

Surely mythic shoulders is way better, banner doesn't scale with any multi-target and will get replaced as soon as you get anything useful

[fading sky]

y dont banner just shoulders

i got Heart OR mythic chest

i will go chest, even if its booring AF

[chilly plume]

do you have an hdr display

if yes thats why the screenshot is 200% saturated

[proud vessel]

Do i get one of the meh trinkets or mythic shoulders? (already have hc 276 tier shoulders...)

[molten wing]

i would probably get the shoulders its one less myth piece to think about

[potent thicket]

yeah, get the set pieces myth first then focus on others c:

[sudden tusk]

belt probably hardest to get

shoulders can be gotten from first boss pugs or saladar

but shoulders for myth track will be the biggest upgrade

[fallen ginkgo]

is reap from execute bugged? i just spinned without having SD proc like 2 times, clipped it went frame by frame and still couldnt see sd proc buff. or is it just that fast at consuming the buff so it doesnt even pop up if you like press execute in the exact timing

[final robin]

Can anyone tell me why raidbots is saying my blade storm is doing crazy dmg on 1 target, but when I'm practicing my rotation it's not doing that crazy dmg?

[summer quail]

click on the arrow beside bladestorm in sims

it counts bb/bt as well

[final robin]

I see, details diff

[timid sonnet]

Ohhhh that explains many things

[royal berry]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/augmentation-evoker-tops-boss-damage-in-mythic-march-on-quel-danas-midnight-381136

PLS GIB SINGLE TARGET BUFFS

[undone flower]

Saladhaar bring the downfall of fury warrior

[radiant plank]

holyfuck arms is being carreid by paladins on that boss dam chart

[undone flower]

It’s S1 of nerubar again, all because 1 boss

[fading sky]

i mean

the fact that arms isnt gettin insane burst

[supple glen]

my myth track weapon option has versa ;((

[burnt oxide]

Same, versa/mastery sword

[supple glen]

yea that one hehe

[granite crown]

Arms is doing solid boss damage on aggregate because arms players don't even try to padd on adds lmao. Both Saladbar and Dragons Arms is kinda high

[burnt oxide]

Is kinda fine tbh

[supple glen]

how realistic is blizzard significantly changing the ranking with balancing any time soon? thinking about rerolling asap lol