fury

[charred flint]

is that

for some reason

we dont deserve defensives

xD

[quiet geyser]

The biggest issue I've noticed with fury, is when we get the hammer, we dont get compensation buffs somewhere else. Most other specs do, but for fury blizz is just like "nah you just suck now"

[heavy dock]

Make enraged regen baseline

Why is it a talent lul

[uneven path]

Idk I think if you want to fury is kinda tanky, we "only" "lost" enraged regen

[heavy dock]

Its been the default defensive since legion for fury

[quiet geyser]

Dstance? Spell reflect? Iv?

[livid arch]

We have defensive stance which is preeeetttyty gooooood

[quiet geyser]

Fury is tanky as hell

[charred flint]

I know it is

[lofty seal]

i mean what was the math or logic behind nerfing the aoe to begin with? were we ahead of the pack by a significant margin?

[charred flint]

but i miss just not being able to die

lmao

DKs still cant die why cant we

[smoky turret]

its really not

we had those before

and we build verse

yet we were still not the tankiest bunch

[uneven path]

Yep, and when they decide its time to buff us, its always just tiny bit

So they dont over do it xdd

[quiet geyser]

Gameplay change, not so much tuning. Blizz doesn't want us to spam 1 button which is understandable. Hence the understanding we should probably get some buffs to compensate

[lofty seal]

pretty sure UDK spams one button for its aoe...

[charred flint]

Every spec does

We just dont deserve it

xD

[lofty seal]

lmao

[uneven path]

Both changes for slayer and MT look like they are setting up rampage and possibly TB/exe buffs

[quiet geyser]

We're not UDK. So it doesn't matter. If they dont want fury to be a 1 button spec, then that's how its gonna be lol

[charred flint]

RB really need some buffs

Is so stupid that wed rather use Rend than RB

[lofty seal]

you know it would be nice to have a more then 2 button gameplay, hopefully we dont just get left in the dust

[charred flint]

I mean, Fury isnt even 2 buttons, we have the loop of 3 playing as thane, what i dont get is that we ALREADY HAD THAT last season

why not change it before

[low folio]

it wasnt really a 2 button spec. just during burst

[charred flint]

if they didnt like it

[low folio]

on mass aoe

[quiet geyser]

Tb/execute make a lot of sense. Im hoping for rb buffs for slayer specifically, and a buff to bloodcraze. Juicing up bloodcraze is an easy way to ensure bt is still relevant in an RB focused build

[charred flint]

This is so fucking silly

[livid arch]

lol yes

[uneven path]

Yeh, and since rend will be removed from rotation for even slayer, RB buffs would go insanely cuz you would make BT hit for bleed buff and to deal some juiced up dmg cuz of bloodcraze and Scent of Blood

And you wouldnt have to hit it very often on aoe as well since SD and rampage are now for procing reap the storm

[charred flint]

Btw, i have a question

[low folio]

was never a fan of RB myself so ive been liking the momentary relief from rb spam we have had for a while, but probably wont last

[livid arch]

Let’s say 12.0.5 comes out apr 21st, blizzard doesn’t have much time to announce tuning for RB or anything else

[quiet geyser]

Its fine for thane, but slayer not being rb focused just feels ass

[uneven path]

I was the same way, but I think they over did it with BT

[charred flint]

In the rotation in the Warrior guide on WoWHead it tells us the prio during Ava/Reck is Ramp 100 > 2 Stack TB

Why, in our opener we press TB

[uneven path]

I will die on the hill of Rampage, RB and exe buffs

[charred flint]

Is that an oversight?

[low folio]

for whirlwind stacks

assumin that aoe prio

[charred flint]

oh true

duh

[quiet geyser]

Even in ST you press tb

TB extends avatar, so you never want to be sitting on 2 stacks, and possibly press bt and get another stack to overlap

[charred flint]

I think in ST you do rampage first but shouldnt change much? At least from what i've seen in logs

[quiet osprey]

in ST TB shouldn't rage cap you on opener tho, right?

so u can just press tb anyway

and then ramp

hmmm but I wonder why we don't press BT in our opener,, especially in aoe, doesn't it increase OF dmg by 20% (bleed)?

[floral knoll]

how do i show this gif on my screen when i bladestorm?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165748205380718664/1491002235897774192/65aed9b52d08b.gif

can you even do this without weakaura?

[uneven path]

Now I wonder, is rend affected by haste somwhat ?

[static rock]

considering that rend ticks per second, I don't think so

Only thing that affects rend via haste is the GCD

[smoky turret]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=772/rend

[livid arch]

All else equal, a warrior with more haste will have more ticks of the bleed over the course of 15 seconds vs a warrior with less haste? (Checking my understanding)

[runic acorn]

Rend should be deleted from the game

[smoky turret]

idk if its more ticks or more dmg per tick

but its surely more total dmg per unit time

[smoky turret]

can easily be checked going through a log with lust phase

but cba

[livid arch]

Saaaame lol

I’ll check after work, my internet sucks in the office

[smoky turret]

i wouldnt bother

i was just trying to answer these two

[low folio]

cant you just go in game, drink a hast flask and check the tooltip

[knotty hill]

When is the patch that ww will apply rend? I coudve sworn i saw it somewhere

[low folio]

its not officially announced but people say the 21st

[dense elbow]

12.0.5, so a while untill that happens

[knotty hill]

I know it probably wont mean much. But god rend feels awful to press

[dense elbow]

Well it will be nice to be rid of it, that is for sure

[knotty hill]

Slayer just feels so much more fun to play than thane

[dense elbow]

Cause it is

Objective empirical fact

[vast token]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-2665742826959095609

[fading sky]

The death of warrior noted

[livid arch]

Surely, one more ptr change will come this weekend

SURELY

[fading sky]

I mean the issue is all the lost st😅

We are pretty poor as is

[livid arch]

lol im memeing that there is only one more ptr patch cycle before possible release

[fading sky]

Yeah i dont understand why we gotta.get stomped on

Cant they just tune our st a bit higher then reduce

Cba 2 be gutter st again

[spare steppe]

Are we gaining anything

are is it just a st and aoe nerf

[signal falcon]

Very minor aoe gain for Slayer

But overall looks a bit bleak so far yeah

[vast gorge]

all these buffs for other classes that are already doing better in ST fights than fury

[viral shore]

Warrior is weird this season

[strong monolith]

Fury warrior has been laying with a developer wife.

[split elk]

This is blizzard moment. Lets nerf something that is already bad

And do not touch smth that is strong

[vast gorge]

i dont do bad in raids/m+ but other classes just do it better and with ease

[viral shore]

Even if we did big dps I somehow don't like the rotation and don't seem to get used to it at all. my problem with tunderclap always was that the animation feels too slow and for me it stops the fluidity of the class

[echo rapids]

Looking at the proposed tuning changes impact graph vs the damage to bosses chart is kinda wild

[vast gorge]

i basically have to ignore mechanics and dps if i want to parse

[viral shore]

I mean that's just being a good warrior though

[last belfry]

blizz thinked very well at this point, create a retri or bm hunter

u can play it any way that works, meanwhile war

[livid arch]

Hey your guild knew what they were getting when you signed up as fury

[viral shore]

we don't even take our personal anymore. so that's as classic warrior as it gets: stand in fire = get more rage = do more dps

well as classic warrior was

[last belfry]

yeah i remember it so much, even today i still have a toc about battle shout bcs in older expansions when u used it, u gain rage

now its just a toc

[stoic loom]

Its ok to be wrong

[viral shore]

funny thing is they didn't need to change anything at all for fury from s3. it played great and felt great, I guess everyone agrees with that. Just nudge the numbers depending on the tier and they were good to go

[spare oriole]

Slayer is way more fun than Thane until you realise you haven't press Rend for the entire key. 👀

[viral shore]

rend is an arms ability

[spare oriole]

I don't know who even asked for bleeds to come back at this point.

[vast gorge]

i cant wait for that ww rend change

[last belfry]

was good when bleed actually did a lot of dmg, like dragon roar

[drifting token]

The "felt great" part was debatable, not everyone loved the one button RB rotation.

[last belfry]

the most perfect in last expansions for fury and arms was DF

just revert to DF and we back bois

now talent tree for both are just lazy and boring, who designed it don't even play with the class

[viral shore]

it wasn't one button, and it was better than now where rb basically doesn't even have to be on a keybind (exaggerating ofc...). problem now is you have a glowy button that isn't pressed. that feels bad. because monkey brain likes pressing glowy buttons

[drifting token]

Same issue existed back then too even worse so, BT was ignored and RB/reap was much arger chunk of your dmg than anything is right now

[echo rapids]

It’s no more one button than current thane ramp clap ramp clamp etc

[drifting token]

it was far more monkey brained then

[echo rapids]

It just needed some adjustment

It wasn’t perfect but it’s kinda bad right now

[viral shore]

and if they are not able to balance bloodthirst so that it had a spot in the s3 rotation by just upping a dmg number or something. you could even increase the cd and have it do more dmg so it is worth it to press or something. then what are they even doing.

[drifting token]

as we can see by them nerfing storm surge, they have no idea whats going on

[fading sky]

Which is adjusted ib 12.05

[low folio]

i miss the raging blow animation that had you smash your weapons together on the target from both sides at once

[echo rapids]

And has been like this since beta

[fading sky]

Only our adjustments

[echo rapids]

Our ai dev just couldn’t spot it lol

[fading sky]

Keep makin us shitr

🤣

[low folio]

i honestly had figured it was just part of them trying to simplify the game further

[fading sky]

Dk had 12 hours of bad

[last belfry]

we don't have 1 dev since DF

[fading sky]

Back on top

[echo rapids]

And DK wasn’t even bad gameplay, just numbers

[fading sky]

We failed chimera today

400k left😅

400...

[low folio]

dont devourers have a button that can hit for 400k

[smoky nacelle]

servers are up but no loots

[fading sky]

😅🤣

[echo rapids]

Yes

[low folio]

ya vault opens in 21 minutes

[modest wave]

because you still got 20 minutes left for reset

[smoky nacelle]

why open the realms

[low folio]

because the update to them was done'

[modest wave]

just cant make players happy

[smoky nacelle]

I'm happy, I'm just curious

[echo rapids]

Sounds crazy but warrior didn’t get enough of a prune and it sucks

[viral shore]

fury was a very great example of a class that is easy to learn and very hard to master. it already had few enough buttons to fit on a controller. they absolutely could've left fury alone and it would've fit perfectly in the new direction they are going with classes now

somehow we got more buttons now though and rend 😄 and those buttons feel worse (at least for me) can't make this shit up

[unborn delta]

Send alnseer pics

[echo rapids]

Most other classes: your season 3 tww tier set is now a talent
Warriors: whoa whoa sorry can’t do it

[viral shore]

here have a throw and rend and temu druid stuff...

[livid arch]

Surely this is the week that I get either heart, alnseer, or mythic weapon in my vault

I can feel it

[last belfry]

yeah i agree, s3 tier set for fury was pretty good

they don't even know how to do with reap the storm almost every week they buff proc cchance or nerf

it happened like 6 times or more

[vast gorge]

whats the prio from vault for you? Weapon > Trinket > Tier

[livid arch]

Probably. But really what ever sims the highest lol

[vast gorge]

im only at 3/4 tier lol..ive had to catalyze all mine because i havent got one from raids yet

[viral shore]

get your 4pc for the catalyst drops then weapon>trinket>tier.

[livid arch]

I mean, if I saw a mythic wep in my vault, I’d probably take that over tier even if I didn’t have 4/4 yet

That’s my hot take

[viral shore]

probably even worth it to take a vet tier piece just to get you the achievment

[vast gorge]

@livid arch probably same for me

[livid arch]

I have terrible luck on weapons in vault. Wouldn’t pass it up

[vast gorge]

@viral shore seems like a waste. id take a non tier mythic track gear over a champ/vet tier piece

[viral shore]

myth track weapon might be worth it in the long run. but probably only with the right stats on it. don't know. the extra catalyst drops are huge since it makes tier farmable from m+

[viral shore]

4pc makes it so you drop charges for the catalyst. which means every heroic upgrade you get can be made tier.

[lofty seal]

yea but tier pcs drop from way more sources then mythic weps do

[viral shore]

thats true. myth track weapons might be the exception, but I doubt it'll be a huge gain if that weapon is not good on stats. because in one week with the 4pc you can basically farm full hero track tier.

[echo rapids]

I gotta say I thought it made those rain

[lofty seal]

LFR and Norm raids are way easy now

[vast gorge]

the guild im in currently can only do 4/5 heroic so far so mythic track is really high prio for me

[livid arch]

Yea, mythic track weapons are so hard to come by.

[willow heath]

Is there an addon that track sweeping tracks such as https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/iwt-improved-whirlwind-tracker-simplified for improved whirlwind ?

[echo rapids]

Did 8x +10s and didn’t get any charges

We get one today though right?

[vast gorge]

id take that 2h off midnight falls mythic track and use it for fury and arms

[livid arch]

Really?

[viral shore]

I mean if you get a myth track weapon with haste mastery then get it. any other weapon I would spend a whole lot in the sim to check out if 4pc hero track gear from the catalyst isn't worth more

[livid arch]

That’s wild

I’ve gotten so many charges from raid and m+, I have 2 unused one atm

[smoky nacelle]

every 2 weeks so no

[viral shore]

if you don't do any m+ that's a different story though

[viral shore]

same

[livid arch]

Any of the mythic track weapons fully upgraded is a minimum 1k dps upgrade for me regardless of secondaries lol. (I have the crests to max out any vault pc I get today to max)

the single largest upgrade I could get is the freaking light ring from NPX. I have not seen ONE drop, but I have 4 copies of the occlusion of the void.

[viral shore]

mhm... well it really depends on your other gear. if you used all your catalyst charges on hero track gear then the drops are not worth it unless you raid mythic. if you still have champ tier or something, then it's a different story.
depends on your luck as well. might be that you never so a myth weapon again. dunno. basically just sim it 😄

[livid arch]

Yea, I already checked, I have the simmed list of dungeon loot + catalyst loot from GV. I’ve been super unlucky on belts which is weird. I’m at like 50+ timed runs for the season with only my 1/6 heroic belt from the first week lol

[spare steppe]

Only great thing coming from that patch

[echo rapids]

I thought last week was crafting charge so this one is catalyst?

[sullen dove]

both happen at same time

last week was 2nd free cata

[echo rapids]

Ahh

[sullen dove]

bruh why this shit buggin out

cant log into 2 characters

surely third will work

[echo rapids]

Trying to save you from a bad trinket - wrists - Cloak vault

[random shadow]

F

[viral shore]

did you sim hero track 4pc without a myth track wepon against no 4pc with it? that basically was the question, wasn't it?

[viral shore]

dude 😄

[livid arch]

That was his question, and no brainer take the mythic weapon lol. I would not go with the sim on that. Mythic weapon is such a better long term item

[knotty hill]

🫃

[livid arch]

Omg I pray this happens to me, I have your exact weapon set up currently

[viral shore]

I did that last season and dropped a myth track wepon every single vault after... so yeah depends on your luck, what you play and so on.

[livid arch]

Please SHARE that luck with me

[viral shore]

well I didn't get 4pc for ages because I had to use the catalyst

[livid arch]

I legit get weapons on every character BUT my warrior. My rng makes literally no sense.

[viral shore]

that's why I would now sim it

[honest trail]

@dense elbow Pit of Saron 15

Pain

[spare steppe]

Trinket!

[atomic pelican]

anyone else not able to login

[spare steppe]

If you don’t have heroic alsneer

[livid arch]

Lmao. That’s so painful to see.

[dire vigil]

Took Mastery Vers weapon last week, why am I so unexcited for puzzle box lol

[livid arch]

Because it has a cast time

[sullen dove]

bruh this game just not letting me in man

[echo sphinx]

ya, i had to close and reopen launcher, and its working now

[sullen dove]

the launcher not the game?

[random shadow]

i mean ye ill probably take the gaze, but like its only hero, its a shame this week isnt a myth piece

[sullen dove]

or well both presumably if the launcher

[honest trail]

Cries in Slayer

[charred flint]

Cause we aint no mages to cast stuff for 2 seconds

[warm crag]

solve my problems thank you

[sullen dove]

launcher was workge

alt man

[radiant plank]

man

[honest trail]

Give

[warm crag]

what the helly

cata that shit immediately

[sullen dove]

i rly needed helmet tho

still have to farm one

its been an entire week

like 30 keys

im trying to hit the logout button and the game is not letting me logout

[livid arch]

Sounds like the start of an isekai lmao

[sullen dove]

that is some sao shit

[thick fossil]

let's see if I can log in.

[honest trail]

Try getting out of the chair, maybe you can go b to the real world this way

but be careful, it may hurt

It's dangerous

[warm crag]

can you solve my problems please

[sullen dove]

glove spawns in your vault

you have been blessed

[wise magnet]

i got gloves from an 11 seat. Had to catalyse my champ shoulders to keep 4pc

also anyone else character not found?

[thorny peak]

heroic gaze...... but a mythic cape

[warm crag]

i will send you my sim string and you will respond with everything i need to know okay buddy

[sterile hill]

Been getting this everytime i log in

[random shadow]

probably a gaze take

which cape tho

[sullen dove]

anything for the less informed

[spice apex]

Is this fury warrior BIS BIS? Sims are telling me tier gloves are BIS but I've seen others saying these are BIS

[sterile hill]

on multiple toons

[smoky nacelle]

she's so beautiful

[warm crag]

this is your purpose as yellow

[thorny peak]

crit vers cape

[random shadow]

think gaze is better even at hero then verse crit cape

[warm crag]

plagiarism will make me god

[hoary tartan]

Why does the opener on wowhead say to OF before avatar?

[sterile hill]

Man i keep getting toon not founddddddd

[honest trail]

Big bis

[hoary tartan]

omega bis, esp with ring pair

[charred flint]

i want to die

[warm crag]

are you simming ST or aoe

very plausible that the gloves will look worse on aoe

[livid arch]

Wait isn’t that neck huge?

[radiant plank]

Dragon games equipment

[random shadow]

take neck and switch to arms

[radiant plank]

holy bis

[random shadow]

its a sign

[restive peak]

Happened to me too Mega but atleast I had myth shouldies from raid vault, had the 3 worst M+ trinkets lol

[warm crag]

dragon games bis

[spice apex]

ST patchwork 5 minutes

[warm crag]

real lincstyle lost yellow due to the allegations

[unborn delta]

I took tier glove from vault last week so I just know voidclaw gonna be in there 😭

[restive peak]

The gloves should be bis make sure you have 4 pieces in the other slots lol

[radiant plank]

he probably doesnt have 5piece so they look worse

[warm crag]

can you link the sim im curious

[amber pendant]

i have 3 set pcs now, should i get final set or trink..

[random shadow]

get trink

[livid arch]

Trinket

[random shadow]

can cata or lfr the tier

[chilly fractal]

Trinket Gamer

[random shadow]

throwing by not taking the box

[unborn delta]

Take trinket and go arms

[static bison]

that trinket is ass right?

[unborn delta]

Yea

[static bison]

[unborn delta]

belt angle or socket angle up to u

[random shadow]

one of those belt has mastery and what not tho no?

[unborn delta]

And so forth

[static bison]

haste crit and vers haste

[maiden ingot]

Nope, Crit/Haste and Haste/Vers

[static bison]

[random shadow]

crit haste and go arms

[maiden ingot]

Not sure what Arms has to do with that. Fury isn't exactly against Crit/Haste either, unless you only ever Sim one Flask and categorically exclude anything that isn't Haste/Mastery.

[random shadow]

arms loves crit haste

[maiden ingot]

So does Fury depending on Stats.

[keen kindle]

Warriors have this nice little thing

called we don't hate stats

[livid arch]

Haste/crit are my two highest stat weights atm. Because apparently I have too much mastery lmao

[maiden ingot]

Just don't take Vers and make your potion window weaker.

[random shadow]

ez trink or ring

[dire vigil]

might just take the voidcleaver so I have 2 289s for fury next week and can craft a new embellishment slot and have a better statted weapon for arms

[livid arch]

Solar flare is second best dung trinket. It’s nice. I have heroic version

[jolly ridge]

so once 12.0.5 will level thane aoe, slayer might be a go to? we will not have any reaps with single target unless its 3 or more targets right?

[livid arch]

Not might, slayer WILL BE the go to

[maiden ingot]

Probably the Ring. Solarflare is a nice M+ Trinket and all, but then you look at the M+ Trinkie Gap to Raid Trinkets and how easy/early you can get them, seems like a long term troll move to go send Trinket. Ring can stand in for Lightblinded Ring for a while.

[jolly ridge]

but slayer ST is so poopy

and thanes so year, you are right slayer it is

[sullen dove]

eh that works i guess

not trinket wouldve liked to have seen but w

[livid arch]

lol bruuuuh

[maiden ingot]

EZ 1 Slot Pull

[livid arch]

“Oh nooo, my lobster is too buttery and steak too juicy”

[sullen dove]

real

[sour frigate]

real57

[tiny cove]

How u getting vault

isnt it tommorow

xD

[sour frigate]

americans

[maiden ingot]

NA

[tiny cove]

ah those people

[maiden ingot]

They are closer to the Source

[ember apex]

quick question - is there any boss we use the single target - slayer build on?

[winter shoal]

In heroic yes

[ember apex]

for mythic

[winter shoal]

In mythic not really

[ember apex]

what build do i use to sim

[winter shoal]

I use thane M+ spec because it doesn't really matter that much

[ember apex]

is that what's recommended/best practice?

[winter shoal]

I mean best practice would be to sim the build you're playing per-fight with the duration of that fight

[ember apex]

like if a rando comes in here and is just like hey i mythic raid - what build do i use to sim my char

[winter shoal]

But most people can't be bothered

I'd recommend them to sim the thane raid cleave build, 1t 5m

[maiden ingot]

The MT Specc for Slayer, for what it's worth is just the ST Specc with Imp Whirlwind instead of War Machine or ER. And you can probably play it if AoE is already taken care of. A lot of the Bosses we're good on are just Padfests, so people play Thane either way.

[livid arch]

I literally can’t be bothered lol

[ember apex]

got it - ty

[livid arch]

M+ thane for everything

[unborn delta]

Im going slarms on voracious next week

[dapper elbow]

ty man i will take the ring

[unborn delta]

But I need to farm crit rings

[vast gorge]

not a lot of good choices this week. its either a mythic puzzlebox, a mythic chest to catalyze (i have the heroic track tier piece already) or a heroic ancient hunger trinket

[maiden ingot]

Seems reasonable, like I said. I mean if you're for whatever reason super far away from ever getting a HC/Myth Heart or a Hc Gaze anytime soon, feel free to still go Trinket, all depends on what's available to you on a Weekly Basis. But assuming you go Heroic/Mythic on the regular, getting the Ring will take care of a highly contested Voidspire piece for you.

[compact loom]

alreayd have heart in hero, seems easy to get in long run, boots can catalyze to bis, dont have eye yet, but non bis weapon technically sims highest once upgraded, what do?

[maiden ingot]

Should be a Sim Angle between Gaze and Weapon. Boots get thrown at you in Raid, if your long term Aim is going after a BiS List that catalyzes.

[tiny cove]

does what mythics you do determine the loot or is it every dungeon?

[chilly fractal]

Every dungeon

[tiny cove]

dam

[random shadow]

what makes gaze sim so high? is the stacks that much and often where 30 strength each time sims so high

[spark coral]

touhg call here, gaze sims as 100 less dps than taking the two-ton hammer, but chances of me getting a gaze of alnseer is incredibly low

[vast gorge]

what would you guys do?

[chilly fractal]

It’s Dungeon week

Do the weekly quest before even considering taking Heroic Raid loot

[spark coral]

ooo good call

[maiden ingot]

Yep

[chilly fractal]

P Box likely sims the biggest increase

[lofty seal]

whats the weekly this week?

[cobalt yacht]

Is puzzle box something we would take over the other two s tier trinkets?

[silent ravine]

trinked!

[unborn delta]

Puzzle is good bc it will be good when Blizz forces us to play arms

[wind wharf]

Do I just go for the myth piece I can turn into tier or is the myth weapon the one to go with even tho its stats aren't great crafted max weapon and max hero weapon (mast/crit)

[turbid bay]

is it a bug this season? a crafted 2 hander sword is costing me more crests to upgrade another 2h fury weapon

or they change it

[smoky vale]

log out

[fresh jasper]

The neck from crown of cosmos isnt good for us right? We dont deal shadow damage

[turbid bay]

aight cheers

[livid arch]

You could get gloves that deal shadow dmg :^)

[fresh jasper]

Or is it only good if we have the two set from nexus?

[chilly fractal]

Ring set out of Nexus and gloves from seat

[fresh jasper]

Ah okay

Ty

[livid arch]

That depends do you have good luck when it comes to weapons from the vault? I don’t

[vast gorge]

how many manaflux should have now if we havent got 4pc yet?

[wind wharf]

meh depends on the season really

first time getting a weapon so far and havent even gotten the one from MT to drop even once yet.....

[livid arch]

I feel like mythic track weapon when you don’t have one and don’t do mythic raid is just a no brainer. imo.

[chilly fractal]

I would take weapon over probably everything

Except like… 1 or 2 things

[maiden ingot]

Even if you do Mythic, you only have two Options and one is Lightblinded, for the other one you'd currently have to be in Liquid or Echo. The only thing that competes with Vault Weapon is a Gaze if you're unlikely to get one anytime soon.

[livid arch]

Exaaaactly

[chilly fractal]

1st boss of the raid is pugable pretty easily too… drops myth shoulders iirc

[maiden ingot]

That would also be a small, but important factor for that specific choice, yes.

[warm crag]

realistically if your guild is killing lightblinded rn it should never give a weapon to you

unreal how unplayable warrior is lmao

[unborn delta]

I feel better about my grey ezzorak parse bc critcake also parsed grey on it this week

[errant loom]

Silly question - but i got a myth track weapon in vault and i have my crafted 285 weapon. Higher ilvl goes in main hand correct? Embellishment doesn't matter if it's on the offhand? :]

[warm crag]

ye higher ilvl always goes in main hand

[livid arch]

Correct

[errant loom]

Just wanted to make sure. thank you both :}

[split solar]

is wep still worth to take here or is something better? neck sims best

[warm crag]

can you link the sim where neck beats weapon

[split solar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5LqssBNWB1NQXu6UtvK2qL

[maiden ingot]

Well, that's also true, yeah.

[warm crag]

dslice holy moly

[robust viper]

dslice sucks

[vast gorge]

can anyone confirm how many nanaflux we have gotten from passive 2 week reset?

[split solar]

oh should I alway sim patchwork?

[warm crag]

i cant tell what your current neck is but it looks like its going from a ~270 neck to a 289 one vs going from a fully upgraded hc weapon to a mythic weapon (in the wrong hand)

[coarse nest]

I would never not take weapon if I didn’t already have a max ilvl weapon

Wildin otherwise

[warm crag]

rerun the sim as patchwerk 1 target 5 minutes and set up your sim correctly, make it use the weapon as a mainhand instead of an offhand and weapon should come out ahead

[split solar]

neck is the novice currently but I'll rerun the sim on patchwork

[warm crag]

consider also that picking neck costs you 80 mythic crests while weapon only costs you 20

[errant loom]

Is that a sim mainly for raid or can that sim setting be true of M+? or is there a preferred M+ option?

[urban cradle]

stays arms just to use 1 crafted weapon and not 2

[warm crag]

realistically you can listen to 25 people tell you different sim settings they swear by but the most relevant answer is to optimize what matters most and for raid its ST and for m+ your role as a fury warrior will never be to pad aoe so its probably also to optimize ST

[coarse nest]

Always optimize ST

[warm crag]

considering your main aoe component is just cleaving your single target you can vaguely approximate that maximizing your ST sim also maximizes your value in m+

[tepid adder]

Would you guys take a Mythic tier chest or a Mythic Occlusion of void? Trying to think long term. Maybe I can get a regular myth chest and catalyst but getting the ring would be hard to come by. Crit/haste is good

[ornate coral]

Radiant plume good for fury?

[errant loom]

Ok :] thanks for that answer. Makes sense! Appreciate the response :]

[coarse nest]

Ngl I would take ring but that’s just me because I want the set on myth track for cool factor

[warm crag]

does the ilvl of the ring even affect the set bonus damage

[tepid adder]

Hm good question

[coarse nest]

That’s a good question

Probably yes but slightly I’d guess

[tepid adder]

It doesn't reflect higher # on the ring in the vault

Hard to tell. I would expect it to, though

Also FWIW I have a fully gemmed/enchanted + leech Occlusion Hero ring atm

[warm crag]

idk the wording is vague

well the gem comes guaranteed

[maiden ingot]

The damage is affected by iLvL

Just dont know if it's each ring's iLvL contributing or both

[warm crag]

of which ring

[maiden ingot]

I'd assume both

I can have a look after key, if I still have my lower ilvl ones sitting around somewhere to see.

[split solar]

wep sims lot higher now that I fixed it properly you were right

[marble apex]

HI guys! Best way to simup an fury for M+? Dslice works well with warr fury?

[gleaming siren]

Spongie

You're so helpful

[warm crag]

hello schmidi57

[gleaming siren]

I'm back57

[compact knot]

yo

[warm crag]

gotta do something while you are playing the video game and i am benched forever never to be seen again

[compact knot]

57

[gleaming siren]

Or TheOtherEvokerInXephsGuild57

[warm crag]

schmidi

[tribal goblet]

is there ever a time where i talent powerful enrage over frenzied enrage? my haste is at 25% Or is it personal preference?

[warm crag]

does occlusion of light/void scale off of ilvl

[compact knot]

yes

[gleaming siren]

Idk that set is ass for Aug

[coarse nest]

Cinco Siete
@smoky vale

[gleaming siren]

Don't care don't ask

[warm crag]

how does it scale

[smoky vale]

57

[compact knot]

let me check

[smoky vale]

@gleaming siren

[compact knot]

57

[coarse nest]

57

[compact knot]

my priest has both the rings

so does my warrior

[warm crag]

we gotta tell gio at some point

[gleaming siren]

Warrior57

[coarse nest]

I got the rings

[smoky vale]

@clever belfry

[coarse nest]

Rings are cool

[compact knot]

let me brick my priest

[gleaming siren]

Why would you ping Anda

[thorny cove]

https://i.imgur.com/wMwYCVt.png hmm prob just go with weapon right? I could use alnseer but eh

[smoky vale]

can oyu get xephyris to join here

i left augcord

and i cant spam him anymore

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah weapon all day

[gleaming siren]

Why

[coarse nest]

Don’t ever take heroic items

[smoky vale]

bc i needed leave discords

[gleaming siren]

Augcord has dracmpreg

[smoky vale]

i dont have nitro

[gleaming siren]

Skissue

[coarse nest]

Gio xeph is already in here

[compact knot]

i think it takes the lowest ilvl of either ring and scales it down to that

[smoky vale]

nono that says other evoker in xephs guild

[warm crag]

@frail bloom holy helly

[compact knot]

the set bonus

[smoky vale]

oh

[coarse nest]

Talks in Prot once in a while

[frail bloom]

your loss

[smoky vale]

@frail bloom hi king

[frail bloom]

helloge

[coarse nest]

Goat energy entered the chat

[warm crag]

xeph do you have a definite answer on how the occlusion of light/void rings scale

whether its avg ilvl or lower or something else entirely

[compact knot]

@warm crag for example my warrior is slightly higher with 2 266 rings

[smoky vale]

spongie do you have a definite answer on how the occlusion of light/void rings scale

whether its avg ilvl or lower or something else entirely

[compact knot]

think it just takes the lowest ilvl ring and scales the set bonus to it

[warm crag]

oh wait it says a number if you ahve the tier set???

[compact knot]

yes

[warm crag]

i dont have the second ring

noob

[frail bloom]

no clue

hope this helps

[warm crag]

ty

[smoky vale]

w

[frail bloom]

(i can log later)

[smoky vale]

this is 3/6 on both

[compact knot]

yup

[fading geyser]

any reason why there is no dps warrior sims on simulationcraft?

[smoky vale]

just sim your own character?

[warm crag]

cant be lower

has to be avg

[compact knot]

its avg then

yeah

[warm crag]

or my 50 versatility ruins everything

[smoky vale]

take off vers gear

cluegi

[compact knot]

my priest has 76 vers

reverse 67

[warm crag]

i will unequip my voidclaw gauntlets

[smoky vale]

67 reversal

[warm crag]

gio75

[warm crag]

low

[compact knot]

mogged

[smoky vale]

67

[compact knot]

276

drop the 2 reverse 67

[smoky vale]

i have double 67

you lose

[compact knot]

ok

[smoky vale]

67 mogged

just is how it is

[dense elbow]

Where is it? WHERE IS IT!? WHERE IS OF???
Good troll

[coarse nest]

Damn I’m 276.38

Haven’t gotten vault yet tho almost done with work

[compact knot]

i cant spend any of my myth crests either

i am NOT sending

[coarse nest]

Waiting on 276 gear first?

[compact knot]

crests on wrists

fuck that

nah its just i dont have the items

[chilly fractal]

I need ya’ll to put your dicks away I’m only like 275

[coarse nest]

Ahh ye I’m still rocking 259 second craft

Makes the most logic

[compact knot]

im the least good plate

[warm crag]

fed

[warm crag]

what else do you craft

[coarse nest]

Lari was good to me kept the other plate out of my split

[compact knot]

i did boots

[warm crag]

voidclaw makes offpiece craft fake

[coarse nest]

Good lad

[compact knot]

dont do boots like i did tho prob

[coarse nest]

[compact knot]

i just did it for prog purposes

[warm crag]

wrist is correct for most this tier imo

[compact knot]

but im benched eternally now probabl

[warm crag]

who isn't

[compact knot]

was just for paladin prog

[coarse nest]

I did cloak craft because I’ll just use wrist off first boss

[chilly fractal]

I’m the only warrior in my guild

But we’re only 2 bosses in cuz we slow

[frank dawn]

warriors are very good in this raid, and need absolutely no tuning this week what so ever

def fr fr

[compact knot]

think arms will surprise people

fury will be shit though

[coarse nest]

Arms does surprise people

[compact knot]

well not even in just m+

[coarse nest]

They all think we’re joking when we hype up arms

[compact knot]

its obviously good in m+

[coarse nest]

No I know

Like dragons arms owns

[warm crag]

arms will surprise people in how bad it is and every guild should immediately split feed a prot warrior

[compact knot]

nah

arms is really good on a lot of these fights

[sullen dove]

only?

how u not like 279

[gleaming siren]

I will split feed you

[compact knot]

i have

[warm crag]

okj

[radiant plank]

Just wait for eu reset

[compact knot]

7000 myth crests to spend

[lofty seal]

no wep no trink, is this real life

[sullen dove]

[compact knot]

and i cant

[dense elbow]

I am 272, why ppl so elitist in here

[compact knot]

because i have myth wrists

[coarse nest]

Arms funnels boss damage from orbs on saladbar, arms has demo cs for every add set on dragons, arms does perma insane 3T damage on paladins

[chilly fractal]

I’d rather play Vanilla Arms Warrior where you are banned from using Mortal Strike on raid bosses than play Arms on retail… just because

[warm crag]

im waiting for thursday as cryo archive is reopened

[coarse nest]

The list goes on

[warm crag]

get to prog that more than the current tier

[gleaming siren]

By the order of Turtles Tarren Mill guild this LFG will funnel loot to Spongie

[warm crag]

tutel wouldve played me

[gleaming siren]

Tutel would have benched me

[compact knot]

also the other plate in my raid was literally top 10 ilvl in the world

xdd

[sullen dove]

ah the vil gambit

[compact knot]

dps warrior moment

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1365019878075011203/image.png?ex=69d5ea93&is=69d49913&hm=b30816fd250cfbd6f9b3a7913bde8efbdd88e97367048f57b04b3926005eca0e&

[sullen dove]

should make an emote for her oic leap

slap a her on top of that

[coarse nest]

Fuck that weapon low key

[warm crag]

you need to her react more often

[sullen dove]

i will do my duty

[coarse nest]

Desyncing fk as weapon

[gleaming siren]

@warm crag thoughts

[warm crag]

you have emote pull power as yellow

[warm crag]

hallo Spongie57

[sullen dove]

xan is emote lord

[gleaming siren]

Ary is in the top10 gear twice

[warm crag]

yeah you dm him and hell add it

[warm crag]

where is the dark blue man

[coarse nest]

Xan finally gave us the real kek

[young swan]

ICANT

[warm crag]

focus the gaze

[coarse nest]

🥄

Ez w

[warm crag]

i wonder if this quote was misinterpreted during carapace progression at least once

[stiff maple]

Holy shit a dragon games equipment grats bro

[warm crag]

DGE is bis

[compact knot]

i wish i got that ring instead of the haste mastery one

[dry talon]

is there any difference between shaterring and wrecking throw on alleria fight ?

[compact knot]

so i could put it on for arms

[coarse nest]

Bro I’m telling you I think I’d take that ring still

No way I’m passing up ring

I’m crazy

[compact knot]

im playing arms rest of tier idc

[coarse nest]

So am I

[stiff maple]

Do you guys think alleria mythic is just an arms boss

[coarse nest]

Lari will bench me before I play fury again

[compact knot]

100%

[coarse nest]

Recrafted and enchanted last night

[compact knot]

dont think its even remotely close either lmao

[coarse nest]

Arms owns

[stiff maple]

Yea

[sullen dove]

prolly irrelevant whichever u play anyway ur gonna do like 2 damage

[compact knot]

it might have the best p3 in the game for mythic alleria

[sullen dove]

but arms better for solely p3 i'd think

[stiff maple]

I saw the only non priv logs were fury and it was weird to me

[compact knot]

vault of doom and despair

omission or helmet prob

[sullen dove]

yea i mean fury might have slightly higher overall dmg for padding but for boss killing purposes arms should def be more ethical in p3

[compact knot]

wait till reclear

[coarse nest]

Absolutely take ring

[sullen dove]

regardless i mean fight is cringe for any melee

[compact knot]

we doing 3x void splits prob so surely a helmet drops

[warm crag]

omission is sick

[coarse nest]

That ring is 1/2 out of like 100 items

You take that ring

[warm crag]

okay i dont think its that much of an instant take

[compact knot]

yeah but if i do get played on a boss id rather be as strong as possible

[coarse nest]

Hands down ring for cool factor and vibe

[warm crag]

which you wont

[compact knot]

and with someone being gone a day on l'ura there is infact a chance i could get played on it

[warm crag]

might aswell go for long term efficiency

[visual kiln]

Are the engineering embellishments just not implemented on raidbots? BIP is showing as doing less damage than just not having any embellishment at all on that slot.

[compact knot]

what is a bip

[unborn delta]

I’m scared because the insane grolthrok who played arms all of last expac and has never even changed specs to fury is about to mog all of us

[visual kiln]

flamethrower embellishment

[compact knot]

psure this makes you sit still and cast it for 6 seconds

and it does like 0 damage

[coarse nest]

Grol is my G and I haven’t even met him yet

[verbal steppe]

Where to lvl up fast from 80 to 90?

[coarse nest]

Arms owns

[unborn delta]

Actually though

I was looking at boss dmg parses and it’s all slarms it’s nuts

[warm crag]

wait ur french?

[dense elbow]

No, BiP is the Big Imense Booms (random dam)

[compact knot]

that is bop

[coarse nest]

No I’m Murican

[sullen dove]

the campaign

[dense elbow]

It is o.3-0.7% of your dam

[compact knot]

bip is the flamethrower

[sullen dove]

or that 1 delve if u want

watch zorthas videos

from like a month ago

[warm crag]

oh ok EU hyjal is french iirc

[verbal steppe]

Ok second char

On*

[radiant plank]

download follow the arrow addon

[compact knot]

bop = bombs bip = flamethrower, looking at it rn

[radiant plank]

and select alt 80-90 midnight

[coarse nest]

Yes dude arms fuks people are slept perma hating the cooler spec

[radiant plank]

takes 3 hours on average

[warm crag]

bop = bind on pickup bip = bind in pickup

[verbal steppe]

That fast?

[dense elbow]

But who will ever take that flamethrower

[radiant plank]

yep

[dense elbow]

I say, as I got it on my BDK

[compact knot]

i tested the flamethrower in dragonflight

[dense elbow]

[compact knot]

idk if it changed but its literally just a 6 second cast right

and you cant do anything

[dense elbow]

Yeah

[compact knot]

lmfao

badass

[warm crag]

that goes insanely hard

[dense elbow]

Does ok uncapped AoE if you are a healer

[coarse nest]

Bro flamethrower for style points

Imagine you rank 1 log with flamethrower

Damn what a flex

It’s not a real rank 1 without an engi Brez cast

[compact knot]

im sad they removed the engi bombs that gripped people in

[dense elbow]

Imagine the spam in here about it "do I craft it??"

[compact knot]

those where so much fun in epic bgs

[dense elbow]

I miss emergency shield belt

[visual kiln]

lukewarm take but if the engi additions aren't DPS gains, they shouldn't count against the embellish cap.

[dense elbow]

They dont

[low folio]

can a crafted belt have the embellishment we want?

[warm crag]

ye sure why not

[coarse nest]

Make engi grenades required again

[low folio]

i just didnt know if specific pieces blocked specific embellishments

[dense elbow]

Engi is freebee, stealth pot is nice

[compact knot]

some do

[warm crag]

only slot that has unqiue embels are the special ones and hunt iirc idk you should be able to put weave on belts

[low folio]

good because my belt is the only champion piece remaining on me

[compact knot]

its typically split up as weapons/armor/jewelry

they usually have different embellishments exclusive to those pieces gear types

[viral shore]

that would be something, wouldn't it

[compact knot]

in dps warriors case the only ones that matter is arcanoweave on armor types and hunt on weapon types

[harsh linden]

is there a reason to loot as arms from the vault?

[warm crag]

there is no difference between fury and arms loot spec anymore

[sullen dove]

poggers shouldve gotten this like wednesday last week but game is troll and cringe yaaay...

[onyx spire]

myth heart of the wind or vessel, any recommendations?

[dapper goblet]

piggy

[sullen dove]

both not ideal but heart prolly a little more preferrable for arms at least

if u play arms

but honestly idk if either trink is really that worth it for fury

haste still decent just not as insane as for arms

[onyx spire]

really only play fury

[sullen dove]

yea i mean would say sim to find out for sure how useable heart is

but vessel i think just flat out not really recommended

balls to annoying to see

[limpid tide]

is it ok to throw socket on crafted 285 bracers

[sullen dove]

ya

almost never going to replace that

if ever

[fading sky]

I think ever?

Bis craft are bracer weap no?

[sick pagoda]

based on this I conclude that they will most likely buff enchancement and arcane ST the next few days

[viral shore]

so fury can't drop 1h weapons anymore? 😮

[rare garnet]

Nerf arms and fury.

[remote bobcat]

correct

[viral shore]

I have been in arms loot specc for so long, I don't know if I can change. even the thought of it feels weird

[rare garnet]

No reason to change

[viral shore]

well the reason would be not having to manually change specc when tanking. but man it feels really weird

[charred flint]

jesus look at that dog damage

[hybrid yew]

Can we dual wield crafted weapons

Is that an unhinged idea

[twin pulsar]

95th percentile :frogthink:

[coarse nest]

Man I think swordish might be washed even I got heroic Lura last week

[echo rapids]

Heroic feels really devalued this season

Like I don’t even need it for tier set

[low folio]

im glad i dont gotta raid for tier

[sullen dove]

i killed lura last week what..

[coarse nest]

Woops

[silent ravine]

where is this

[charred flint]

Did you go back to Arms?

[coarse nest]

Ye

Full commit last night

Paladins prog I’m slotted in

[charred flint]

[edgy widget]

well that's ass

[coarse nest]

Atleast this tier it wasn’t week 6 for weapon

[fading sky]

Sword?

[charred flint]

a 2h and a helm that can turn into tier how is that bad O.o

[vestal root]

look ok to me

could be much much worse

[charred flint]

me looking at that with my crit/haste neck am very much offended

[vestal root]

i got the alleria neck from weekly cache

champion one

idk when ill replace it lol

[winter shoal]

Enjoy your myth hat big dog

[vestal root]

damn seeins some logs from mythic

wowzers

fury is so wack if you are not padding on adds lmaoooo

[fading bane]

Yup

[vestal root]

god i wish i enjoyed arms more so i could swap to it

[charred flint]

i was wondering why xan lost valkyr

but you're fake xan?

[fading bane]

Even the best fury bosses (fallen king and dragons)

Arms is kinda just better

Cus other classes can burst the adds

Better

[vestal root]

im the cool and real xan

[young swan]

double fake xan

fake xan is my alt

@queen coyote

[fading bane]

Had to put number in ur name

Sounds like ur the fake idk

[vestal root]

real

also arent you xantaga

so not even xan

ez

[warm crag]

fakexan lore

[charred flint]

where that common xan w gif at

[plush maple]

You got "God's Oozing Vestige" atleast, sounds cool

[vestal root]

yeah but

fury just plays better thooooooo

[vestal root]

mythic puzzle yo

[full topaz]

not to shabby

[charred flint]

Idk about that honestly

Thane is boring

And Slayer just feels fucking weird not wanting to press RB

[vestal root]

slayer feels gucci to me

[charred flint]

Havent touched Arms cause im a spec loyalist but Fury isnt amazing rn

[vestal root]

arms slayer is "ok" but colossus just feels gigajank

[viral shore]

arms is so bad to play though compared to fury 🙁

[fading bane]

My biggest issue with Colossus is Ravager

It just lines up with nothing

[vestal root]

colossus arms makes you wanna reroll class

yeah colo arms has like 4 cds to track

[fading bane]

Avatar and WB line up at least

[vestal root]

yeah but still, feels wack to hold

[viral shore]

arms needed a full rework 5 years ago. now it's just... well... I don't know what to say

[foggy pine]

guys what would you choose in the vault between that or gem slot

[coarse nest]

Absolutely not that vers ring

[vestal root]

i rly wanna do decent numbers but idk if id be up to reroll arms, and my luck is i reroll arms and week later fury gets buffed

[viral shore]

fury buffed? in what timeline are you living? 😄

[vestal root]

let me cope

[twin pulsar]

You can do decent numbers as fury, especially at the level you're playing at

[viral shore]

true, but bigger numbers feel better at every level

[vestal root]

i can make peace knowing i cant beat hunters or mages but yknow its kinda weird not playing the stronger spec on your class sometimes

yknow

well

"stronger"

[hollow leaf]

Please go reroll for the rest of us

[vestal root]

arms feels rly bad on some raid fights and your tanks can giga grief you in m+

[vestal root]

i think some are doing it anyways so i dont need to be the sacrifice

[hollow leaf]

Others don't have your luck!

[dry hawk]

do I yeet my 1/2 Light/Void rings for another haste/mastery for 800dps >.<

[vestal root]

nahj they got better luck thjan me have you seen my vaults

ouch

[coarse nest]

Bis ring there but less cool factor

@sullen dove did we confirm if gloves/ring set procs neck?

[vestal root]

you mean gloves from seat?

[sullen dove]

uh i mean yea

[vestal root]

woah rly?

thats awesome

[sullen dove]

i think glove does most of the proccing

[edgy widget]

I have heroic socketed hat

[sullen dove]

when i simmed the first time i got gloves, gloves did like 0.3% dmg and neck did 0.3%

[vestal root]

i just got my light void ring combo yday

[sullen dove]

then when i got ring combo that did like 0.6% and neck went up to 0.4

might be weird sim stuff

but im assuming ring set does a lot more damage than gloves just doesnt proc as often

or tbh i never tried sim without glove

to see if neck still procced equally as often

[edgy widget]

both will result in a higher proc rate for the neck

[sullen dove]

can do that ig i have all 3

yea just the ring in addition to gloves was barely anymore

25% uptime of dot went to like 29% uptime

[dry hawk]

how much true dps is the x2 ring set?

[edgy widget]

yeah it's not a lot; the gloves get most of it

whereas rings without gloves don't get half the proc rate

[vestal root]

i got gloves aswell but i need hero hat to catalyst before i swap

[sullen dove]

top with glove bottom without

so yea the rings do a lot of damage but are really bad for proccing

gloves do all of the proccing of neck basically

[vestal root]

[sullen dove]

i mean cataing a normal helm should be fine

youll get more charges

or if u mean u have no helms

[vestal root]

got some delve champion helm for weeks now waiting for herorororo

[sullen dove]

but seems barrage with at least 2 276 rings do like almost 10k per hit where voidclaws are like... 2k per hit lol

[viral shore]

too lazy to do the bg quest that gives you a haste mastery neck? 😮

[vestal root]

yes

i didnt play wow pvp in 7 years idk man lol

[viral shore]

its against bots

[vestal root]

they would play better than me

[hollow leaf]

Ngl warr so boring rn I forgot to fill my vault

[viral shore]

well then I guess.. I don't know what to say

[sullen dove]

bots were actually op week 1

maybe its fine now that we have higher ilvl

[vestal root]

jokes aside i didnt know there was a bg quest

[sullen dove]

but the bot bg felt so hard

im assuming they were all fully conquest geared

when we were like 250

dps had like 500k hp tanks had like 700k

nothing ever died

[hollow leaf]

There's abot bg?

[sullen dove]

shit was terrible

[hollow leaf]

I did regular bgs

[vestal root]

but with this neck i guess im fine anyways

especially with rings/gloves

[viral shore]

It is the "training" quest you get from one of the blue quest guys in the tent

[vestal root]

ahhh

last day of tw today i considered speedleveling through it but im so lazy to level alts

[dry hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n7igdt8xhT6R1Po2ewE9nt I'm confused, so if I were to get a Light set for the ring its 100% a dps increase, but this is like is that Mythic ring truly worth grabbing

[sullen dove]

w shiiiit

[sudden tusk]

MY VAULT

[sullen dove]

still rocking the week 1 normal gaze lets get an upgrade on that pronto 🙏

[sudden tusk]

IS CURSED

SMORBSMISH

[sullen dove]

nyooo

[sudden tusk]

IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE

IMPOSSIBLE

[sullen dove]

lole

you will reap what you sow

good vault haver

keepin it a buck 50 the gloves definitely rarer

but idk

[sudden tusk]

i know

[sullen dove]

might not be as much dps as trink

prolly isnt

[sudden tusk]

its painful

its not

[modest condor]

gloves yo

[sullen dove]

cuz ngl gloves themselves dont rly do dmg

[sudden tusk]

but i think i still go gloves

[sullen dove]

prolly safe....

[sudden tusk]

they will be impossible to get

[sullen dove]

youll get given trink eventually..

my alt warr got the gloves and nothing else good

so w choice there

[fading bane]

Its 100% trinket

If you dont have it

Gloves are «bis» but its not that big a deal

And purely ST

[sullen dove]

trink def most ethical short term but if we thinkin the loooong way...

[calm swallow]

Is M Dreamrift super difficult? I really want a mythic gaze lol

[sullen dove]

its honestly not

[fading bane]

Its like 2nd easiest mythic boss

Id say

[sullen dove]

there are pug groups that have been killing it

[fading bane]

At this stage

[sullen dove]

it'll only get easier

[fading bane]

Mechanic is basically just kick adds in intermission

[sullen dove]

its probably still a good 1-2 hours of learning in fresh pug group

[fading bane]

And it dies

[sullen dove]

and might be harder to get in if u havent killed yet or have decent logs to get a chance at inv

but like its 100% killable

[junior gale]

Clearly don't go trinket cuz it sucks for arms! Who cares about fury!

[sudden tusk]

my dk is blessed however

[sullen dove]

perish

and he may be right...

this is somewhat panning out to be an arms tier late game...

blowing up p3 lura... better for bird... better for paladins and p3 alleria...

rare arms tier coming out of left field

(arms buffed and fury nerfed lulw)

[fading bane]

Arms mogs p1 Alleris too

[sullen dove]

yea maybe shorter cd timings

[fading bane]

But thats like beating a cripple in a race

[sullen dove]

get to pad more

[fading bane]

Its mostly execute in dmg amp

[sullen dove]

ja

i think like reck/bladestorm slinging unhinged bloodbaths on execute goes insane too

[fading bane]

Small add dmg is irrelevant

[sullen dove]

for slayer fury

slam like 5 800k bb's in 2 seconds

but bladestorm rng moment...

im actually like liberated

first time in like 2 weeks it feels like i dont have to farm anything anymore

[junior gale]

P3 crown arms goes hard

[sullen dove]

last week was so awful on the alt warrior

missing an m+ plate helmet for 30 keys

can do things with my life

missing 1 single item out of m+ on main but ong just some relaxing shit

[candid falcon]

what do we think folks

[limpid tide]

bro got 2 mythic gazes

wowie

[sullen dove]

latch's hook goes hard

[candid falcon]

i had one pre-season launch and it was kind of beans, is it actually good?

[sullen dove]

no