fury

[wary marsh]

colo arms barely beats out slarms in aoe aswell now

[vestal root]

slarms im fine with

[wary marsh]

nah play what you like

[vestal root]

arms still suffers from play either ST or AOE, fury doesnt

[wary marsh]

i dont have any problems with ST as of now honestly

[vestal root]

on arms or fury

[wary marsh]

slayer just kinda carries ST in m+ for me now

arms

in fact

when i play thane fury i feel my ST is lacking

[vestal root]

defo lower yeah

but still decent

but way higher aoe

[wary marsh]

might be a trinket issue tho, got no eye and champion heart

[unborn delta]

ima try slarm

[vestal root]

i got champ puzzle and heart

trinkets are not real

[wary marsh]

i lost a 94 roll on HC eye

to 2 people

im so mad

[vestal root]

dang

idk

like id maybe play slarms

[wary marsh]

it was a 94

[vestal root]

but fury is still gonna be ok after nerfs

[unborn delta]

slarm might be good theres no weird colo nonsense

[wary marsh]

point still stands

[vestal root]

slarms feels better imo because less CD management

subjective in the end

[wary marsh]

bladestorm go brr

then spam cleave

omega dmg

[vestal root]

colo is one of highest aoes in the game though its crazy insane

seen 550k pulls

[lean heart]

did a 13 spire on colossus arms that shit do go hard

[wary marsh]

no ST tho

[vestal root]

but if you mistime things, or dont got things well aligned it feels kinda ass

and yeah bad ST lole

[lean heart]

ST kinda stinky true but thats not my job

[vestal root]

yeah if you got a hunter and mage with you its fine they will pump on boss

[wary marsh]

elemental shammy

[lean heart]

lowk maybe slayer arms prob isnt bad currently

[stoic loom]

Yeah fury gets to do bad ST either way

[wary marsh]

for the skyfury

[lean heart]

bit more ST

[oblique thistle]

Yeah with how ridiculous the aoe is its totally fine to not have great boss dam plus you can always pull trash on to bosses (in certain dungeons)

[wary marsh]

slarms also has alot better prio dmg

[oblique thistle]

Slayer arms is definitely very playable

[wary marsh]

getting to press execute

to do aoe

is massive

[oblique thistle]

Its also way easier to play

[wary marsh]

feels like tier set that casted TC when pressing it

[vestal root]

fury is really slick to play thats its biggest plus

[wary marsh]

i dont remember the season that was tho

[vestal root]

no button bloat, things align well, it just feels good

[lean heart]

ive gotten 2 odyns casts within one single Reck ONE time and my god that shit felt incredible

[oblique thistle]

I am usually a fury stan and fury is very solid this season, but I find thane to be incredibly dull

[vestal root]

i defo find thane more dull yeah

[wary marsh]

you dont like rampage thunderclap

[vestal root]

but still find thunderblast fun as heck

it feels strong

it sounds strong

just play Mastodon - Blood and Thunder

it makes sense

[wary marsh]

naaaa nothing beats sound design of arms, press MS is the most satisfying feeling

[lean heart]

dont know if its cus of slayer last tier prob is but slayer currently just feels giga stinky for fury

[oblique thistle]

Idk we had kind of this crazy stuff with tww s3 tier sets with the reap spam and the tb resets that made fury a bit more exciting now its like bland chicken

[wary marsh]

i miss mortal combo SL sound too

[oblique thistle]

Its nutritious and safe but its bland

[lean heart]

so much less SDs it feels like shit

[wary marsh]

yeah execute is just a rampage buff button for fury

[lean heart]

this where im at

[vestal root]

fury still feels better on current bosses kinda

[oblique thistle]

Fury feels better in general because youre not starved on rage like arms is lol

[wary marsh]

idk i dont do raids on my warrior this season

[unborn delta]

arms has rage

[oblique thistle]

And you dont have to make a choice between aoe and st

[wary marsh]

and im drowning in rage on arms

[vestal root]

lot of raid bosses got light cleave

[unborn delta]

if you have a windfury totem maker

[wary marsh]

idk why people are saying that arms is starved of rage

i dont have this

even without shaman

[vestal root]

maybe on slarms?

[unborn delta]

you are rage starved on the st target dummy

as slarms

in execute

[shadow maple]

1 question if i dont go to 100 rage before drop rampege how big is the dps loss¿

[oblique thistle]

As colossus in st sometimes you just get fucked

In aoe its fine

[vestal root]

my fav on colossus is boss moving away as i begin casting demolish

[wary marsh]

when you say rage starved, do you mean not being able to press any buttons or just cant press execute/ms anymore?

[oblique thistle]

Like not being able to press a button

[wary marsh]

because ofc i run out of rage, but never buttons

[oblique thistle]

Specifically in st

[wary marsh]

i dont have that

[oblique thistle]

As colossus

[wary marsh]

maybe i would have that

i dont play collo so

[oblique thistle]

Slarms does not have that proglem correct

Because you naturally have more free buttons to press

Colo does not

[vestal root]

isnt prio slightly diff too?

[wary marsh]

exactly why i dont play colo

[lean heart]

colossus sometimes on ST youre just sitting there with MS off cds slam//heroic strike off cds and no charge of OP and youre just waiting for a fucking auto attack like youre playing classic

[wary marsh]

not to mention that everything is misaligned on colo aswell

[lean heart]

dog shit

[wary marsh]

having to hold cds feel like shit

[vestal root]

yeah it feels like sometimes you are getting blueballed on colo

while its a good decision

it feels bad

i wanna zug

[oblique thistle]

Crazy liquid push

[wary marsh]

best run bloodsurge

[vestal root]

[oblique thistle]

Damn

[vestal root]

puzzle box sims are pissing me off

[oblique thistle]

Secret phase is NUTS

[unborn delta]

i was gonna farm puzzle box for arms but i decided not to

[oblique thistle]

Holy shit

[vestal root]

atm my Heart of wind is simming higher in some scenarios

[vestal root]

dont think its worth it on arms?

[oblique thistle]

Biz is on plume + heart

[unborn delta]

it is one of the best on-use this season

[wary marsh]

my crucible sims higher than anything i have

and heart

[unborn delta]

at 289?

[wary marsh]

droptimizer telling me to get gaze + Heart

[vestal root]

i wish

[unborn delta]

i has those

[vestal root]

gaze never droppin for me

[unborn delta]

my gaze is 263 and heart is 289

but i think 276 puzzler beats 263 gaze for m+

[wary marsh]

might do

if you cba

to channel it

[unborn delta]

being able to use it on the giga lust pull is grazy

[vestal root]

i save puzzle for recks

even if it missaligns

[wary marsh]

well yeah ofc

[unborn delta]

reck is every 45sec right ish

so its only 15secs of holding

[wary marsh]

on paper maybe

but you end up holding it for longer

[vestal root]

uptime and so on

[wary marsh]

and pull sizes

[vestal root]

some bosses wont let you hit 24/7

[wary marsh]

boss timers

[unborn delta]

and so forth

[vestal root]

3:26 time to

[wary marsh]

maybe if you are locked in and pushing but for just pugging keys for gearing and vaults im not running it for a +1% more dps

[unborn delta]

on fury u dont wan tit

[wary marsh]

gotta leave fr work in 2 hours

idk what fury runs these days

i imagine its similar to arms

[whole delta]

i got a weld test tomo and I haven’t welded in 3 years wish me luck y’all

[unborn delta]

est gang

tmw i gotta do nothing at work for 8 hours

[young swan]

@compact knot 3 shot boss as arms, did 0 fuck dam but idc ive never played this spec

[compact knot]

W

[unborn delta]

pallies?

[young swan]

yeah

[unborn delta]

damn nerf hit hard

[young swan]

i mean arms is just like 50% better than fury on that fight

its ridiculous

theres no amount of good play that would put you over mediocre arms performance

[unborn delta]

or was it reclear

[young swan]

nah first kill

[unborn delta]

easier than dragons now u think then

3 is crazy

[young swan]

its kinda hard to say

most of our pulls were prenerf

im pretty sure

[slim coral]

why are there 2 xan's in the discord

[snow edge]

[young swan]

other dude named xan joined

[slim coral]

make him change his name

[olive wraith]

Why we have OG xan and xan57

[sudden tusk]

didnt we have a third xan when xans account got locked

[young swan]

@queen coyote

that will probably become main xan in the near future

[sudden tusk]

the heck

[young swan]

i have effectively 0 agency over this account

so better to swap sooner rather than later

[sudden tusk]

is it because its compromised

[young swan]

i just dont have access to my 2fa or the email associated

[modest condor]

no he lost access to his email

[sudden tusk]

well when they do hack you again can you at least tell them to send me 50 dollars from mr beast

[young swan]

so its just bricked if i ever have anything happen that logs me out

account is unironically unhackable

which is kinda beast mode

[sudden tusk]

i have a backup email to my main email incase i every own my main email for some reason

[left perch]

Question

if Xan57 predicted echo wins tomorrow but liquid kills tonight

do I win the bet or does fake Xan

[golden steeple]

Seen feral touch a milly

[feral ivy]

wtf is the raid that easy?

seeing a lot of raid group[s 2/2/22

[young swan]

its because it lets you 1 phase beloren

[feral ivy]

ahh

[unborn delta]

lust egg

[meager hound]

Is it possible to use the Stance macro with a modifier, so that I only change stances when holding the modifier? I can get it to work with going into Defensive stance, but getting back into Berserker/Battle stance doesn't seem to work.

[sly bobcat]

Pugged mythic bird

Massive

[young swan]

bird or donkey

[sly bobcat]

Chime

Chim

[young swan]

ah yeah donkey

huge tho

[edgy widget]

ok I misread what you said, it seems like you want to use the one-button stance macro with a keybind modifier?

that should be as simple as just binding it to ctrl+<key>

[summer quail]

I have the stance macro on shift+v if that is the kind of thing you mean? If so yes it's possible

[unborn delta]

I thought they meant holding down a button -> defensive

Release -> back to battle

Which I’ve never seen

[edgy widget]

that wouldn't work anyway, since there's a 3s shared cd

[dense rivet]

why soo low dps as Fury warrior with 244 ilvl

[edgy widget]

unless you plan to hold the key for 3s which would be silly

[edgy widget]

idk but 244 ilvl is part of it

and seemingly no tier

[dense rivet]

Wow, but the other classes with lower item levels seem to be dealing significantly more damage.

[edgy widget]

you're at a point of gearing where tuning doesn't exist - just go do content and get some real gear

[meager hound]

Yeah, this is what I'm trying to do. Archi's fix is the most common-sense approach, but I try to use as few action buttons as possible. I want to have it on a key that I also use for another ability (Storm Bolt specifically), but without having to bind a separate action bar button to Shift+key

For the moment I've just put Storm Bolt as my shift-modifier action and that works.

[edgy widget]

I still don't understand what you're trying to do tbh

let's break it down

• are you trying to use the 1 button macro, so that both stances have the same bind? or do you want each stance on a separate button?

[meager hound]

Yes.

[edgy widget]

ok cool

what are you trying to bind it to?

[meager hound]

Currently E.

Right now, E is Storm Bolt. I wanted to have Shift+E be the stance-dance macro and regular E be Storm Bolt.

[edgy widget]

ok, the only way to do that is to put them on separate "buttons" and bind them separately

[meager hound]

I do agree that just having a separate button bound to Shift+E will solve my problem.

[edgy widget]

well... actually you might be able to combine that all into one macro, but it would be kind of dumb

just make a hidden bar and put it on there, you don't need to see the button, you just need it bound

[meager hound]

Flipping it so that Shift+E (/cast [mod:shift] Storm Bolt) fires off Storm bolt with the Dance macro non-modified works.

[willow heath]

Is the tooltip from Voidclaw Gauntlets correct ? My gloves of ilvl 276 states " attacks have a chance to deal 1.471 additional shadow damage" but in dps meter "... a chance to deal 194 additional ... " ?

[meager hound]

That's a fair point.

[edgy widget]

I feel like it should work in either direction, but it's unnecessarily complicated

I have like 6 action bars and 4 of them are hidden, that's the actual solution you want, and it'll be easier to iterate if your needs change in the future

[meager hound]

It likely is, lol

[edgy widget]

the last thing you want is to untalent storm bolt, move your bind, and suddenly you can't change stance anymore

[meager hound]

Good point. Thanks for the help 🙂

[dense rivet]

How fury warrios survive without def talents?

[edgy widget]

vibes, caffeine, and defensive stance

[sudden tusk]

we are big chungus

[dry hawk]

Dstance and IV 🙂

[sudden tusk]

ill be real you dont even need to dstance

[summer quail]

By being giga tanky with no defensive

[modest condor]

no defensives

i guess def stance and spell relfect dont exist

[edgy widget]

also 10% passive DR does a lot of heavy lifting

[lean heart]

fellas we are so incredibly back

[dry hawk]

gratz

gotta love setting UUF to short names and this exists

[edgy widget]

you can fix this with a little edting, just move the name up and the health numbers down so they don't intersect

[dry hawk]

appreicate you

[deft palm]

When we pop cds do we just rampage as much as we can

Not wait till the rage is 100

[velvet trellis]

so dps warrior getting sat for last 3 raid boss

single target damage is dog shit

and they gonna nerf it more

[charred flume]

what is the opener to thane single target lol??

[young swan]

i think viewing it as an intentional nerf is prob a mistake

you should try to view it as them reshuffling our damage breakdown/promoting a more healthy rotation

the consequence happens to be a nerf

but its well-intentioned

we can start to throw shit if they don't properly compensate us

[dry hawk]

I was gonna say, I feel like a RB/BT buff or an aura buff might happen to compensate

[sullen dove]

@sudden tusk are you winning

[sudden tusk]

in tthe sale?

[quiet geyser]

really hoping for a RB buff, atleast for slayer, make it in the hero tree somewhere idc

slayer is 10x more fun playing RB

[sullen dove]

yea

[sudden tusk]

ya

[sullen dove]

w

[sudden tusk]

as long as alleria isnt a shitshow

[sullen dove]

aware....

had one run like an hour and a half last week

surely unsaved tmrw will go better

[sudden tusk]

id have signed up if i wasnt raiding

[pearl sequoia]

selling alleria HOF, based

[sullen dove]

yea true

[sudden tusk]

why does collo feel like such dogshit on paladins man

also nerfing FoB to 3 targets instead of 2

god awful choice

[young swan]

yeah its just unfun

does a lotta fuck dam tho

[dapper goblet]

i HATE being op

[pearl sequoia]

must never feel hate then 😎

[young swan]

how many dps warriors in on the last 3 bosses

how many dks

[dapper goblet]

how many enhance shamans on ansurek

how many warriors

piggy bitch

reply back if you're a goober tardis

[young swan]

weird how we're talking about this tier and not nerubar

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/basketball-dunk-gif-11259109

[gleaming marlin]

@edgy widget curious if you guys have ever advocated for lust being given to warriors?

[sudden tusk]

@sullen dove only 2 wipes

ezpz

[sullen dove]

w

[sudden tusk]

new signup bot

no more app copy paste thank god

[sullen dove]

saved heroic is like way too cringe for me to do

shit gives less than unsaved normal

[sudden tusk]

whats normal giving

[sullen dove]

like 200k for all 3 raids

[sudden tusk]

becuase some of these goobers dying in heroic

i got 260 for saved h

[sullen dove]

u can see the saved herioc cuts

tf fr?

[sudden tusk]

will see this week

[sullen dove]

it looked like it was like 60k

for voidspire

[sudden tusk]

no it was 224 then an added 60 on top

so you only saw 60

[sullen dove]

peculiar

[quiet breach]

any warrior DPS show up in this RWF?

[sudden tusk]

no :)

[edgy widget]

it would do more good for prot than dps, and the likelihood of giving one tank an exclusive lust is extremely low

[quiet breach]

damn not a single boss?

[sudden tusk]

Paladins

Dragons

[quiet breach]

F

[sudden tusk]

heroic very funny for pad

[hollow leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/nub-nub-cat-silly-cat-silly-cute-gif-18315508831080649878

[young swan]

so this boss just isnt dying until next reset right

[hollow leaf]

doubt it

[sullen dove]

large

[sullen dove]

have they made it to p4 with everyone alive

no way its that hard

[young swan]

no

[sudden tusk]

i mean if it goes to reset

does liquid auto win

[young swan]

they've made it to p4 twice since the first time

[sullen dove]

probably yeah theres no way it can

[sudden tusk]

vault. crests. splits on nerfed paladins

[sullen dove]

idk if they even need splits anymore

[sudden tusk]

another 2 ilvl per char boss explode

[sullen dove]

vault/crests should be more than enough

[sudden tusk]

well if they can split while echo cant even play

thats just free power that takes maybe a couple hours

[young swan]

would not be the first time liquid has fumbled a reset

i will say that

[frank dawn]

yeh idk, I mean it will make the good pulls way more consistent. But there's still a whole lot insta wipe on this windchime

[high lagoon]

are the slayer nerfs still going live with the thane nerfs too

[sudden tusk]

i mean a single reset of gear the boss hits 0 before the group wipe even happens

[young swan]

with 12.0.5, yeah

[high lagoon]

so wtf

[frank dawn]

still a few weeks out at least

[high lagoon]

is warrior cooked

[frank dawn]

pray for a designer to give a fuck in that time

[young swan]

we'll see

[high lagoon]

why would they n erf thane on top too like

i guess arms will be the move ..

[young swan]

cause the rotation is degen as fuck

[frank dawn]

I mean, the changes do make sense in a lot of ways from a design standpoint

they just also nerf the shit out of us

but that can be fixed

[high lagoon]

i mean is ret pally not degen

[frank dawn]

that's ret class fantasy tho

[high lagoon]

cooked

so they wanna make warrior a pure pad class lol

0 st

0 prio

[young swan]

the aoe is whats getting nerfed in the case of thane

[high lagoon]

yeah but i mean for slayer

[young swan]

slayer didnt do aoe anyways

[summer quail]

to be fair they fix that just by removing the tc cdr. the tc damage amp is so nice, makes avatar feel like a cd

[young swan]

as of right now, if warrior just stays the way it looks like it will be, there will be 0 reason to play fury for any content

[high lagoon]

ye

thats what im sayin

we gonna have to play colossus

[young swan]

its kinda useless to think about cause it just wont happen

[high lagoon]

or maybe arms slayer

[young swan]

is kinda the point

[high lagoon]

they gonna revert iut?

[young swan]

like there will be tuning to correct that

fuck no

[high lagoon]

i hope so

[young swan]

but they'll obviously tune shit

[high lagoon]

thanks

u make me feel better fr lol

[young swan]

Gladge

[summer quail]

can't wait for the 5% aura. being generous here against the normal 3%

[sudden tusk]

i am never finding a daiper baby

[echo rapids]

They can start by buffing thunder blast damage, shits weak

Ramp clap ramp clap is funny but I can live without pressing clap like 6 times in 15 seconds

[edgy widget]

that'll change with 12.0.5 taking TC to a 3-GCD cycle

[echo rapids]

Ramp clap BB/filler is fine

[edgy widget]

but Clap being strong is good, cause it means our damage isn't entirely tied up into TBlast RNG

[fringe linden]

Finally gunna craft bracers; Should I get it done with or without Hero Crests. Don't have the Myths.

[young swan]

they're gonna have to omega buff the fuck out of base abilities if they wanna make up even part of the gap left by losing out on 40% damage amp on clap

[echo rapids]

True, our damage is very consistent

[echo rapids]

Thry are gonna keep trying to make RR a thing arnt they

[young swan]

if they want RR to be a thing it just straight up needs to be better than the cleave % offered by WW

[keen kindle]

Go get myths? But yes send with hero

If you dont wonna farm 9s and 10s

(Or xant)

[fringe linden]

Slowly but surely will get Myths; playing with a friend who is convinced they'd be griefing anything higher than 8.

[keen kindle]

Well then

Tell them u have an 8

Slam a 10 in

[echo rapids]

No one will notice

[fringe linden]

Totally just a bug, for sure for sure.

[echo rapids]

You could just craft the bracers without crests at 259 it’ll be fine

[edgy widget]

Tbf it’s pretty easy as Slayer, long as you got big enough pulls to support it

[high lagoon]

whats RR

[edgy widget]

And WW is still bugged, so you could degen it as Thane if you really wanted to

[echo rapids]

Rampaging ruin

[edgy widget]

Bigger issue is just finding a good talent point to drop for it lol

[echo rapids]

When you have imp WW buff, your rampage does less damage but hits more targets

Good on large pulls, annoying for thane since it means rampage does less damage to a boss unless you do some wacky cancel aura stuff after thunderblast

[olive abyss]

Why do ppl play "Massacre" over RR when its just a basic macro to cancel aura and cast rampage. Legit increasing single by around 2k but losing infinite on big pulls

[edgy widget]

Most people don’t know or want to bother with the extra keybind, not all packs are big enough to support RR, people generally hate the idea of the talent, and “Massacre” still gives some ST value

[olive abyss]

its not even that bad...

[young swan]

it nukes all of your prio damage

u actually become a useless pad monkey

[olive abyss]

true

[hollow leaf]

ngl I haven't even read the talent, all I know about the talent is that it makes your rampage cleave

where does the nuking part come in

[young swan]

it just cuts rampage damage to like 40%

for all targets

[summer quail]

you do equal damage to everything

[young swan]

while ww buff is up

[hollow leaf]

lmao

[fossil hull]

how many 13s will i need for 3k!?

2 or 3?

[signal falcon]

I think 4 13’s and 4 12’s gives you 3000 iirc

[random shadow]

depends on how fast you can time them, something like 2-4

[hollow leaf]

iirc each keylevel up gives like 20-something score, so probably 2-3

[keen kindle]

https://share.google/FryEZFqnVQCUaHQyi dunno if this still works

But try it

Can confirm it works

There also should still be addon

[fluid tangle]

hi
which rotation guide is the most opti ? icy veins or wowhead ? or another one ?

[hollow leaf]

they're both written by the same person

wowhead tends to be more up to date

[fluid tangle]

thx i'll go with wowhead then !

[gleaming marlin]

GG a choice node for either Rally or a Lust (Thats a shout or cry for immersion) would be sick i think

[rustic anchor]

NinoMMO made a video not that bad : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0fFP6UQ5RI

[compact knot]

we need a new mog bro

cant be buttass naked in the big 26

[iron portal]

That is indeed not a warrior mog smh

[rapid forge]

Hey, smart fury pumpers - https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1490602968469344306 help me out

[keen kindle]

People dont get that armor is hot

[compact knot]

you will never catch me with a gooner mog

[undone flower]

I woke up and Lura is still there

[gleaming marlin]

@compact knot imma need a tmog review

[compact knot]

My mog or yours

[gleaming marlin]

lemme see yours

first

[compact knot]

Uhh

I'm on phone

Hold

[gleaming marlin]

GG

[twin pulsar]

oh shit it's an og

[compact knot]

https://raider.io/characters/us/zuljin/Khawarr

Does it show it on here

[gleaming marlin]

fire\

this my arms one lemme go fury that ones better

[compact knot]

I haven't changed it in 2 years

Venthyr set my beloved

[keen kindle]

Show

[compact knot]

Check the raiderio link and go to the armory

[undone flower]

Nathria set

[gleaming marlin]

@compact knot fye or nah

[compact knot]

I ainno about the purple on the right hand sword but its clean asf lowkey

[gleaming marlin]

im just tryna flex the 2.1 enchant lowkenuinely

[compact knot]

I see I sss

[heavy dock]

drop the crown and put the helmet on :D

[south kayak]

I just saw the Lura secret phase lol

That was hilarious

[heavy dock]

that green orc + the red face paint doesnt rly match well with the dk set

[gleaming marlin]

my face paint is usually blue

[brittle stone]

How are the two new boss for fury uptime ?

[heavy dock]

Id still drop the crown tho

But if you like it sure

[jovial dagger]

do u have crown of eternal winter?

[gleaming marlin]

yes

[gleaming marlin]

im going for like a royalty type of thing with it lowkey

[jovial dagger]

how does it look with it instead of that crown

[gleaming marlin]

ill check tmrw i got off ill lyk

[jagged folio]

are we arms now?

[dim knoll]

can someone give me the tldr for when im meant to press execute ?

WhEn ThEY aRe LoW HEalTh

[radiant plank]

outside of CD's you wanna hit execute on cd when available

inside cds its below rampage in proi

on slayer

[cedar moon]

👍

[dim knoll]

ty xx

[timid tide]

Hello, I have a few questions for MT. Do you prioritise rampage over pretty much everything else, as it gives berserker stacks and use BL as a filler? Or do you use BL on CD and execute even if you are around 80 rage? Clap/Blast obviously is prio in aoe. That's outside of burst, of course. For me right now it feels like a race to get as many rampages ASAP and I don't know if this isn't hurting my DPS/rotation

[heavy dock]

Arent we supposed to rampage every other gcd in cds? Not just spam it

[timid tide]

I guess you can paraphrase the question that way as well 🙂 Do you use rampage every other BL/execute/clap/blast/

[prisma wharf]

anyone have a updated guide for mage tower ?

[flint elbow]

12.0.5 really is about to kill fury in higher keys, isn't it? Storm Surge damage buff reduced by 40% and the cooldown nerf of 25% is crazy work

[fleet spindle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rAGWKngPaqDXHxzY?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=3

Hello M8s im trying to be better and i want to know my flaws. What i could do better and what i need to look for. Is someone here who could help me with a few Sentences? 🙂 You can also tell me in a personal Message ❤️

[jovial dagger]

for fury? just keep titan fury for adds and dodge them balls , else just nuke imp lady

[ashen swallow]

Your rotation and uptime looks ok to be honest, I run mountain thane on that fight although I have no idea if that's optimal. You are missing enchants though which add a fair bit of dps, especially the main hand one but those can be expensive at the moment

[jovial dagger]

no special gear needed no nothing , i did it in tww with s3 gear but this tier set 2p 4p has to be enough ,havent tried arms

[rustic anchor]

Thinking the same, dunno if we'll have to switch to Slayer or just for Blizzard to stop hating dps Warriors

[sick pagoda]

Yeah already see it now for 1 egg strat on belo HC, forget getting a spot as dps warr

[white wave]

besides what others said about your gear not being in tiptop shape with proper enchants u also overcapped constantly on rage wasting 16% of all rage gained throughout the fight so spam rampage a bit more and you should be fine

[timid tide]

About enchantments, what would you recommend? Double ren'dorei or mastery/haste?

[jolly juniper]

Hey, can anyone tell me what our stat breakpoints are, or how i can find them?

[finite jetty]

internet deadge today yay

[silent compass]

hey guys

theres no way to break chains of subjugation in seat?

fearless talent only right?

[mossy fox]

fearless or charge if ur slayer

bladestorm would work too ig

[silent compass]

y

[icy whale]

do we craft a 2nd arcanoweave insight item in 9 days?

[prisma wharf]

well its been almost 3h still at the first one

[trail bane]

If you have managed to get two mythic weapons yes

Or well im not 100% sure, last time i checked at least

I think the other option is that crafted hunt weapon in off-hand and only 1 arcanoweave might be better

[flat river]

With fearless you can break first with berserker rage, charge second for break, then berserker rage the third (the chains are every 25 second-ish and berserker rage is 30 sec cd)

[mossy fox]

paladin just freedoms me

i should prolly tell him to use on someone else if im playing slayer tho

[bitter palm]

i wonder if u can demolish through it

never thought about it

i just zerk rage first and 3rd and dbts 2nd

[pulsar quest]

Slayer arms m+ guide when

[hybrid willow]

Is the cancelaura whirlwind in single target still a thing?

[bitter palm]

2 minute long guide

colo guide makes more sense theres actually stuff to talk about

[hollow leaf]

why would you be playing slayer in seat

why would you be playing fury at all

[bitter palm]

arm slayer

[hollow leaf]

kinda weird

ew

[bitter palm]

slayer in general is ew rn idk

[fluid tangle]

Hi,

I want to leatrn the dps cycle of fury
To do so I wanna use wowanalyzer and warcraft log
But it seem to not work with log fdrom training dummy
whgat is the best solution?

pls

[spare steppe]

He likes slayer p

Slayer is fun

[hollow leaf]

Shouldn't be any issues, does logging work in other content?

[flat river]

I don't have friends, pugs are my only friends

[flat river]

I play slayer always

Fury or Arms

Always slayer

Raid is another thing though

[river jetty]

hey fellas, what buff to get in academy as fury ?

[flat river]

I get haste personally

[dense elbow]

versa

[unborn delta]

Crit only 3% 😔

[rare garnet]

Because slayer is fun

[viscid lake]

just wish it did more damage than thane

imagine they were about to change the way reap the storm procs

would have been awful

[rare garnet]

I’m glad it don’t. Keep FOTM thanecells away from my slayer parses

[hollow leaf]

just wait until .5

[fossil oasis]

yea idk why people are thaning

[tardy lark]

cause slayer is an atrocity

[flat river]

Fym

Slayer is BiS

[vestal root]

slayer is fun

[undone flower]

Bc they are used to, 2.5-3% st diff, or just the add pad, thane has better AoE burst than slayer

[vestal root]

i might swap to arms slayer for now but i know my luck is that they will give buffs for it as soon as i do it

reeee

[undone flower]

You like rend ?

[native wadi]

Slayer is clunky af

Wish it was s3 tww

[undone flower]

I wish it was the same as now, but just without rend

[native wadi]

That could also work

But having a dmg cd would be nice

[flat river]

No

[native wadi]

Apart for bs...

[zealous pier]

Slayer S3 TWW is BiS

So much fun

[flat river]

Real

[native wadi]

Yeah it was peak

Even if numbers were not the best

Felt fucking amazing

[undone flower]

Not for me personally but I agree to disagree

I liked slayer 2p tho

[elfin harbor]

how good is the Renown trinket btw for fury. I have it fully upgraded

[native wadi]

Above all m+ trinkets basically

[glad hazel]

Where can I find these sim numbers

[undone flower]

You sim 10 targets

or 20

[main zinc]

what is normal dps in mythic 0 , 240 ilvl

[vast token]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-2665742826959095609

[elfin harbor]

i have the delve trinket and the raidtrinket heroic 2nd boss

[coarse nest]

Hard to say probably around 50-80k overall

[main zinc]

aah okey. and estimate at the training dummy single target ?

[coarse nest]

That you can just sim your character with the target dummy setting for however many minutes you want and then go in game and hit the dummy for the same duration and compare

[flat river]

I mean atleast when ptr releases WW will apply rend

:3

[frank dawn]

this week's ptr build will fix us

fr fr

[worthy stirrup]

110k nexus point +10 is it better or need do something more?

[coarse nest]

Pretty sure you could be casting TB/TC more but just a guess

[radiant raven]

More claps

[fair cave]

getting into a heroic group for Belo'ren is the new warrior challenge it seems

[vestal root]

getting into a heroic group*

[digital mauve]

can trinket from the raid be looted in the world activities vault row?

[torpid sand]

holy shit

echo almost had it

15% last phase

[novel saddle]

This seems like a pretty big nerf to thane incoming in 12.0.5

[potent ocean]

Nooo

We already behind Arms now.. 😂

[coarse nest]

They want to lower the need to press TC on cd

[novel saddle]

Thats pretty ass ngl

[coarse nest]

That’s what those nerfs are for basically

[vestal root]

it says "go play arms"

[left perch]

@young swan you were right again on rwf. I lose.

[potent ocean]

Also do you guys do 2x rampage and after that BT/BB or it doesn't matter that much.. and in proc just double tap BB or not

[potent ocean]

I tried.. I cant get it right..

[coarse nest]

Wait did echo kill it?

[forest ginkgo]

14%

They were super close

[bitter palm]

does anyone have a clip

bro imagine if p4 had a secret phase too

[vestal root]

yeah i getcha

[bitter palm]

axaxaxax

[left perch]

No but I said it would die last night he said it’s another 100 pulls

[vestal root]

my option atm is play arms to compete a lil bit or suffer on fury until blizzard decides to be nice

[coarse nest]

God I hope so just for the meme

[potent ocean]

I can do 250k nonstop on dummies for like 10 min. But in M+ I don't do dmg I just cant focus properly and do it right

[vestal root]

atm sub optimal gear arms beats out geared fury like cmon

[potent ocean]

On Arms you press 3 buttons you do 300k dps.. on Fury i gotta pres everything to have that

[livid arch]

ill probably play fury till i get into the 16-17 key range. im not really sure what optimal comp would be for arms, and i doubt pugs can build around it

[modest condor]

on fury you press 2 buttons

[coarse nest]

[modest condor]

and then once cooldowns run out you cry

[smoky vale]

monk shaman = win

[vestal root]

if ptr goes through soon not anymore i guess

[potent ocean]

Why not BB as 2x rampage boost BB x2

[modest condor]

because ramp is higher prio during reck

[livid arch]

also, in practice on the 5 dungeon dummies, the diff between my fury and arms dmg is 50k which is already the diff in sims too

im using critcakes slayer arms build for ref

[potent ocean]

So its better to just spam rampage and TC/TB and ignore BB?

[modest condor]

yes

[coarse nest]

In aoe yes

[modest condor]

but you're gonna run out of rage eventually so you'll have to fill with bbs

[potent ocean]

So thats what im doing wrong

[modest condor]

i mean probably not

the difference is a couple % at most

[potent ocean]

Gonna test it no in +13 SR

[modest condor]

if you're noticing massive differences then there's something else going on

[potent ocean]

Well im doing 130k overall.. thats not that good tbh

[modest condor]

yeah but pressing rampage more isnt gonna make you instantly do 150k either

[vestal root]

depends on key but thats better than me and most pugs

then again im shit

[potent ocean]

This was a +12 MT

[potent ocean]

me too

I just can't get it right.. im trying but just not workin

And have no idea what im doing wrong

[modest condor]

one of the reasons why ramp is higher prio in mass aoe is that tclap does more damage than tblast, on low target counts the extra lightning stirke proc makes blast worth more, but once you hit the point where you're spamming tclap that lightning strike is almost negligible damage

[vestal root]

who knows man maybe timings on your CDs maybe you got shite tank

better than me at least i got an identity crisis rn

fury or arms rargh

[smoky vale]

i know what you're doing wrong

not pressing tc on cd

[potent ocean]

how does the not upgraded clap do more dmg than Blast

[modest condor]

because blizzard in its infinite wisdom decided to nerf blast by 30% right before the expansion launched

[potent ocean]

isnt it proc-ing to be better version

Ok..

[modest condor]

like i said

on low target counts the lightning strike still makes it better

[echo rapids]

I know it makes thane aoe very consistent but we need more power back in TB

[potent ocean]

So BB is not that much to be used oke

[smoky vale]

tc on cd

yep

[echo rapids]

Just in large aoe pulls

As chaff mobs die you stop spamming TC

[potent ocean]

okey

But these talents should be fine

Im gonna try the +13 SR now and lets try that out

[vestal root]

go play slayer fury

get practicing

[echo rapids]

You mean slayer arms

[vestal root]

well if they wanna stick to fury

yknow

[potent ocean]

Well +13SR depleted amazing.. pala tank not good

[vestal root]

paladin tanks dont exist

because they die to first pulls in every dungeon

[dim spindle]

stinky pinky

[chilly fractal]

Prolly playing the squishy hero spec

[coarse nest]

[dim spindle]

I've met a cool pally once or twice

I was very envious of them way back when they first got their shield toss chain interrupt capability and have yet to get over it

Even if prot has their own aoe int now

[elder stirrup]

is fury 4pc a big deal in m+?

[dim spindle]

It's not huge, but it's still a deal

Like 1-2% over 2pc?

[elder stirrup]

ok

[dim spindle]

Very much worth it if that's what you're asking

[echo rapids]

It lets you use it later in a pull and still have it for next pull

[dim spindle]

I think that 1-2% number is based on ST, so on second though it's probably higher for aoe/m+

[echo rapids]

It’s not bad, I feel like I’m running out of gas right as it comes back up

[cosmic forge]

Guys, how do you deal in seat of trium on the 1st trash with those chains without root break?

[signal falcon]

You can spec berserker rage to act as a root break

In the class tree

[cosmic forge]

Berserker shout? so it does work?

[signal falcon]

Yeah there’s a talent in the class tree to make it remove snares

[dim spindle]

rage, it's midway down the class tree. Next to shattering

[signal falcon]

Which gets rid of the chains

[cosmic forge]

Ok, thanks, that helped a lot

[dim spindle]

"fearless"

[signal falcon]

He casts more frequently than you can use it though

So I usually use spell reflect for the 2nd cast

(idk if it’s even magic damage lol)

[stiff maple]

Im pretty sure its shadow

[dim spindle]

Yup, shadow according to wowhead

SR it is.

[placid palm]

I should just bite the bullet and be fury on crown right?

[echo rapids]

Which one has the better execute phase?

[placid palm]

Uh, arms I suppose?

[stiff maple]

Mythic crown?

I dont see any particular upside to fury tbh

[placid palm]

Just heroic. I know it wont really matter on that difficulty but I still want to do well.

[twin pulsar]

lmao, heroic doesn't matter

[stiff maple]

Oh then just stay arms, it'll be totally fine

[twin pulsar]

If you don't do well as arms it's not the spec

[placid palm]

I know! But still. And especially if I'm pugging.

[merry jungle]

hello gamers new warrior here, how is fury in M+ and raids in terms of end game content and high pushin

[stiff maple]

I dont think theres a big difference on important damage between the two

[placid palm]

Thank you kiwi.

[modest crater]

How much extra damage do you get from battle shout? I don’t know how “attack power” scales in retail anymore

[coarse nest]

About 3 morbillion

[bitter palm]

ye somewhere around that

[twin pulsar]

sim with bshout. Sim without bshout

Breathe in, now breathe out

[potent ocean]

So did the TC on CD in +12 SR and did only 105k overall.. its not working that well for me. Im doing something wrong 😄

[modest condor]

i mean did you do it on all aoe or only when you were supposed to?

because that clap damage seems a bit high

[echo rapids]

Skyreach has some small pulls, i think you clapped too much

You don’t always TC on cooldown

[nova musk]

hey guys is fury the better spec for both M+ and raids? also does race matters a lot now?

[stiff maple]

Race does not matter that much

Both specs are fine

[modest condor]

arms is better in m+

[calm swallow]

Dwarf Masterrace

[modest condor]

raid depends on the boss

[echo rapids]

It’s been a long time since race really mattered and it never will again

[modest condor]

race matters in the sense that meld and stoneform are OP in m+, but if you're asking about dps then no

[echo rapids]

Unless you are pushing the hugest keys

[radiant plank]

panda express

[stiff maple]

If you really want a race to choose I'll always shill nelf cus meld is really convenient

[echo rapids]

People always mean for dps when they ask that

[modest condor]

0.1% better than human wowie

[nova musk]

Oh really, so arms outshines fury atm?

[calm swallow]

Arms propaganda

[echo rapids]

Fury is fine

[twin pulsar]

the eternal irony of someone asking that question in class discord meaning they're not playing at a level where it could remotely matter

[modest condor]

colarms probably #1 aoe damage in m+ right now

[radiant plank]

0.1??

are u simming 2nd stat food

its more like 0.4

[stiff maple]

This changes everything

[nova musk]

But i guess slayer is the raid build then. does it play very different from eachother as arms?

[echo rapids]

I was about to say, no disrespect but if you ask that I doubt you are doing meld skips or even remembering to stone form

Slayer arms and fury play similar in that they both use bladestorm, sudden death reap etc

[modest condor]

insane dude

[vestal root]

haranir female is meta

trust me

[nova musk]

well Im playing havoc at 15-16s keys now. but I feel its going to start to fall off from here and dont want to stay in devourer shadow.. so I rather play something which has 2 dps specs I enjoy if one happends to fall off

[rare garnet]

Fempanda OP

[vestal root]

well you are playing a meta class

[nova musk]

so I want to play either arms or fury now, but dont know which one

[vestal root]

devourer stonks

[nova musk]

i dont like devourer

[vestal root]

if you wanna keys push then defo colossus arms but you can also just play DK instead

or hunter

[nova musk]

warrior is the only class which has 2 dps specs im interested in

[sick pagoda]

"dps"

[foggy acorn]

In about +11/12 keys, 263 ilvl, Fury MT, what would be a reasonable ST marker to work towards? I can't maintain anything above 50k and do maximum 60k overall once the boss is over. That feels super low even for a poor ST spec so I'm struggling there 😅

[echo rapids]

It really depends, a lot of m+ bosses have bullshit to don

Like the 3rd boss in AA I feel like in all I do is go drop puddles and run over orbs

[foggy acorn]

Certainly 😂

[echo rapids]

If you are trying to figure out if your rotation is bad then the dummies are better i think

[foggy acorn]

Still, should be more than barely 50k shouldn't it? Even when I can stay on boss almost the entire fight I don't go past 60k. Our group got cussed out for "only doing 60k" in a +11 and boss just wasn't dying fast enough which has been a repeated event so I just assumed I simply need to do more damage.

[echo rapids]

You got cussed out for doing 60k in a +11?

[foggy acorn]

Yeah lmao

[coarse nest]

Only doing 60k on a pure st boss encounter in M+ build seems fairly normal for most pugs I’ve run lol

People be wildin

[echo rapids]

Is this one of those groups that demands you have a timed 12 to take you to an 11

[vestal root]

reminder that lot of WoW players dont know how to interact with other people and are socially bebarded

[foggy acorn]

Then that was a frost mage sitting on like 85k ST so like... It's less about what that person said and more about the fact the boss wasn't dying and I figured they may be right 😂

[vestal root]

mage is giga OP rn what can you do man

my friend on MM hunter plays like shit and still clears me on meters lmao

[rare garnet]

-reacted with 🐸

[foggy acorn]

I'd place a fat bet on it LMAO

[stiff maple]

Wiping to a boss in an 11 is not cus your group isn't doing enough damage

Especially with the numbers you're saying

[echo rapids]

At +11 it’s just do mechanics on each boss

Wiping isn’t the same as not timing

[last lichen]

for 16s and up, think fury needs to pick up enraged regen?

[stiff maple]

I would

[last lichen]

drop wut tho?

[lofty seal]

only thing you can prob drop is warpaint?

[radiant plank]

massacre

[stiff maple]

Yea I always just drop massacre

[summer quail]

nahh

[ornate coral]

can you equip two crafted items with embellished items at once?

[modest condor]

yes

[ornate coral]

alright, max two then?

[modest condor]

yes

[ornate coral]

Thanks.

[modest condor]

it tells you on the item's tooltip

there's a 2 behind the unique equipped

[livid arch]

having to learn arms and my dmg falling off hard just feelsbadman

[sick pagoda]

arms just feel slow and bloated 😐 maybe its just me

[livid arch]

not just you

[echo rapids]

Arms is definitely bloated

[sick pagoda]

feels like it has 4 x slams with different icon

and heroic strike feels like.. slam

[echo rapids]

CS + avatar + ravager + demolish

[sharp patio]

So w8 , arm is better than fury everywhere now ?

[sick pagoda]

and rend needs to die

[echo rapids]

Slam still existing in the year of our lord 2026 is wild

[livid arch]

yes, except for ST fights, but if you have a m+ team or can build pugs around it, then yea arms is straight up better

[sick pagoda]

🙁

[sharp patio]

I'm in a mythic guild , whats the move

[sick pagoda]

reroll

😄

[sharp patio]

🙂

[livid arch]

oh if you are raiding, just do whatever spec is best for each fight

[sick pagoda]

did they even bother with ap buff for WF?

[livid arch]

thats always been the move

[echo rapids]

You can play fury for everything, arms better for paladins

[drifting token]

of course, always at least one

[sick pagoda]

good thing they nerfed our insanely overpowered utility in piercing howl

it was out of control

[indigo arch]

Don't worry they nerf thane soon, clearly it was out of control

[stoic loom]

Warrior not allowed to be good

Sorry lads

[sick pagoda]

and reap, holy

the aoe...

[lofty seal]

its cuz some blizz dev that plays mage got beat by a warrior

[golden solstice]

What fights in Voidspire do yall go strictly Single target over Multi?

[sharp patio]

None lol

[sick pagoda]

im doing 1 egg belo now, im like half dps of Unholy and MM in egg phase

[twin pulsar]

So don't play arms

[lofty seal]

lol i just got kicked froma group cuz my dps was too low on egg phase

[fickle cedar]

we are a 45 sec burst spec, its like a static bar

[sick pagoda]

im here for buff only it feeløs

"burst"

bursting over the tank

[livid arch]

fair response lmao

[ornate coral]

What is the best embelishment to put on radiance crafted necklace (fury warrior)

[dry hawk]

Have you crafted weapon?

[ornate coral]

Yes

[dry hawk]

Arcanoweave id think

[sick pagoda]

I miss s3 slayer tbh, good ST and cool aoe playstyle in m+

imagine that with OG piercing

[past pivot]

Should be same as if for wrists. https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237307555961634826

[slim coral]

IT'S REAL

LETS GO

[sullen dove]

damn bruh u aint have that since last week?

but gz epic

[slim coral]

nah it never dropped

in any runs

only the void one droppee

[warm drift]

If I’m going mountain thane then I don’t use whirlwind even as a filler right?

[slim coral]

you use thunderclap

[echo rapids]

Right thunder clap in its place

[slim coral]

which replace whirlwind

[warm drift]

Must be why my DPS was lacking. I’m new and still trying to learn rotations and I was sometimes using whirlwind while thunderclap was on CD

[merry jungle]

wait u dont use whirlwhind???

[forest berry]

guys what would you recommand to play for belo'ren in heroic ??

[warm drift]

From what I saw the goal is to utilize other CDs that can get your thunderclap back up

So whirlwind is just a waste of a cast

[granite tiger]

which spec stornger right now in m+ fury or arms ?

[warm drift]

Fury

[dry hawk]

Is that set lit for us?

[drifting token]

for high end pushing its arms

[warm crag]

Its fine, breaking the Set can be a dps inc

Sim it

[dry hawk]

I've been in that dungeon for 3 weeks lol

[fluid tangle]

hi

Wowhead says to use Rampage above 100 rage
but these proc occur at 80+
What thje solution ?

[dry hawk]

Delete spell opacity

[warm crag]

The proc just says you can rampage if you dont like it you can turn it off somewhere

[fluid tangle]

where is it ?

[young swan]

search spell opacity in the settings search bar

[fluid tangle]

found it you are a true mvp

[young swan]

beast

[knotty hill]

Man watching people in my raid burst 2-300k
Sustain 100k+
And im struggling to maintain 70k.
Hurts

[vestal root]

fury ST is kinda lidl

my guildies blasting on ST in lust meanwhile im like wow odyns fury woooo!!!!

tickle!

[lean haven]

whats the best sim Fight Style for fury to sim for m+?

[timid violet]

What are you guys using as a guide for talents? And rotation

[vital idol]

yeah, fury gonna need some love in ST for sure, play at a 95% level and do less then classes playing at 60% level lol

[vital idol]

wowhead has the rotation

[vestal root]

wowhead

[vestal root]

im over here tryharding sweating meanwhile some ret pala and hunters are making jokes and blasting

[vital idol]

thats what im saying, Im blasting and parsing 95 in mythic and still getting gapped

[timid violet]

Wasn’t sure how reliable it was seen some people say it’s not as good as it used to be

[vestal root]

i swear man i love warrior but next xpac i might reroll not gonna lie its getting painful

[vestal root]

archie writes there and hes a homie here so

[dry hawk]

And yet we get the

[vestal root]

i dont play pvp but someone told me we are paying for pvp reasons

idk how true that ius

[dry hawk]

Part of me just wants to perma swap arms

[timid violet]

I’m thinking of going to my ret paladin for the rest of this exp it’s 80 rn

[forest berry]

arms in ST suck ass no ?

[vestal root]

arms so far has been either bit below average, then hotfixed to be really good, fury gets nerfed over and over and over

[vital idol]

worse than fury lmfao

[vestal root]

whatya mean, arms slayer does well

[forest berry]

i sim more on fury slayer than arms warrior

am i crazy ?

[vital idol]

might be a gear thing

[forest berry]

prob, dont have a lot of haste actually

[vestal root]

crit haste thing yeah

also some trinkets are wack on arms no?

that fury uses

[vital idol]

my fury sims for 88.5k rn

[royal berry]

Hey follow warriors!

After starting retail with this addon I was able to do the first three bosses of voidspire in heroic today. Unfortunately I parsed grey and thought about hitting my head against a wall. Meanwhile I'm almost everytime top dps in M+.

For raids I use the raid rotation and skilltree from wowhead, for delves, m+ and world content the M+ one. Currently sitting at iLvl 264 because I cannot play that much. Can someone give me some practical suggestions? Sadly I'm not a experienced user of Wowlogs so comparing with other warriors is cumbersome.

Feel free to roast me! Wowlogs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/dun-morogh/langund?boss=3176

[vital idol]

my arms is like 78-80k ish

[forest berry]

dont talk about trinkets with me i still have the one from renown and one from delves

i'm so cooked this season

[vestal root]

lot of parses are padding on adds

i wouldnt stress too much more you play more you learn

im sure some good players can help on log review channnels

[twin pulsar]

that's a pretty useless response

[royal berry]

Thanks for the advice!

[vestal root]

[ancient bolt]

What's happening boys is arms good now or something

[fiery hare]

insane that my 261 ilvl surv hunter alt does more st than my 271 fury 🙂

[vestal root]

i actually boosted a surv hunter lule

but im too lazuy to level another class

[fiery hare]

its quite fun to play

[vestal root]

leveling is so demonic

[fiery hare]

even tho its not mop surv but

[vestal root]

yeah its cool

shotgun and harpoon

[remote bobcat]

Post it into #1347646810457636974 or it might get ignored

[fiery hare]

i dont like mm,its quite bland

[lean haven]

So, whats the best Sim Fight Style for Fury? Like for single target i understand, that Patchwerk ist he best, but for M+ aoe? Few of my friend says that the Dungeon SLice is kinda meh and better use Patchwerk with 3-4 bosses in settings.

[vestal root]

surv is only spec id play

[sick pagoda]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/N27Hgm3rzQcnTJah?fight=6&type=damage-done&start=1907342&end=1935101

[vestal root]

id reroll to ret pala if i could but i cba gearing again

and levling

[vital idol]

I do 4-5 targets is what I do

for like 45 seconds

[sick pagoda]

I know.. im not the best, but I dont suck look at dps for egg phase on hc bel... Its sad

this was 1 phaes

[remote bobcat]

Dungeon slice sim is a meme, do multiple aoe sims (e.g. 1min30, 2min, 30sec, etc) with and without BL to get a general idea

[sick pagoda]

makefurygreatagain

[vestal root]

idk

i honestly feel like its our fault

fury has this nice niche of low cooldown burst with cleave, while not losing ST

and blizzard cant allow that to be good

but we keep liking it

[fiery hare]

cant lose st if you dont have st

[sick pagoda]

I mean the s3 warwithin iteration of slayer was good ST

and that worked out fine?

[vestal root]

why cant we have good numbers without set bonuses

[remote bobcat]

Its the fightstyle

[sick pagoda]

now we are here

all 4 specs in bottom

[young swan]

yep

beast mode

[remote bobcat]

We were rewarded for less burst more consistent numbers which we got in s3 tww

Now we‘re rewarded with a lil more aoe burst

[young swan]

xeos and vil will say its broken

[sick pagoda]

and I mean.. burst

[fiery hare]

and then u get bosses like lura

where fury is just not desireable in any way shape or form

[sick pagoda]

look at feral, elesham, wl, +++ on first pulls in m+

[fiery hare]

pmuch pure st boss

[sick pagoda]

we cant compete

maybe arms can

[vestal root]

warrior is not needed on lura

[fiery hare]

on any boss*

[vestal root]

bring back condemn

[sick pagoda]

fixed it

😄

[vestal root]

actually they are

on tank

[sick pagoda]

Prot

😄

[vestal root]

for shout

thats it

[fiery hare]

we need bloodlust

battle rez

and better st dmg

[vestal root]

lust

[echo rapids]

Warrior should have lust

[dry hawk]

Make Execute do actual damage