fury

[sudden tusk]

bout gave up on the spot lmao

[exotic swallow]

im struggling to get in 10s currently is why i ask qq

[sudden tusk]

10s will be hard to get into unless you overgear or have high enough score to get in becuase so many people are doing them

[undone flower]

i did a 16 and 3 15s with the only group who took me

[sudden tusk]

best bet is to just run your own key to 10

im only like 2800 or something rn i cbfa to do keys

no pash

[summer quail]

you must be doing something wrong as thane. no shot slayer does more than thane overall(unless you mean arms slayer)

[pliant jackal]

12s are still so dogshit easy

[sudden tusk]

put in all that effort to get stonewalled at 22 becuase the 12.0.5 patch comes out and our aoe is stinky mode

[undone flower]

i would like to have all 15s or 16s so i can bedge m+ for the season

[split comet]

prob not high neough keys

[sudden tusk]

slayer does more burst thane is more consistant

[undone flower]

16s are quite easy still

at least the 16 pit and 16 nexus point (depleted bc we didn't know about the circuits + first boss we didn't know how to play it)

we full wiped 2 times in the 15 nexus point and still timed it

[sullen dove]

why does shadowburn and conflag have like 100% crit chance as destro

like chaos bolt says it does crit dam but idk didnt realize like all my spells are the same

[exotic swallow]

also am i insane or there some really annoying beeping for a trinket proc or passive?

[dapper goblet]

@sullen dove i need a 10 thanks

[sullen dove]

ok i need a plate helmet

i dont have a 10 on the guy that needs it tho

ill do your 10 tho

[dapper goblet]

Austy has no key

[sullen dove]

someone in there has to have one

[undone flower]

If you transfer region, I have a key

[sullen dove]

one of these two gotta

[dapper goblet]

fake members

[undone flower]

Does bitedh get his name reported often ?

[sullen dove]

how

[undone flower]

His name is dickdh in french

Idk if it’s about bite the verb or bite in french

[sullen dove]

bite means dick in french huh

how strange

im gonna go out on a limb tho and assume bite stands for bite

on the very not french region

such as the ability name demon's bite

demon's d

strange

[gusty cloak]

hey what did you guys craft after weapon?

[sullen dove]

bracer or cape probably

[gusty cloak]

/w arcane lining?

[sullen dove]

yea

[undone flower]

Lebronjames means goon btw

[sullen dove]

yea similar meaning in my language too

[harsh widget]

Yo, new warrior player, trying to figure out why im parsing so low aside from my iLvl, open to any criticism on this log (Pride) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JR67ZfqADGpgnHhN?fight=28&type=damage-done&source=955

[pliant jackal]

you are literally doing so much wrong.

you press raging blow too much

you don't rampage enough

you need go over the priority list of your abilities

you aren't following it

[dapper goblet]

you know i carried u in many keys

[fiery edge]

Holy mid blow enjoyer

[pliant jackal]

i kind of want to just join a pug and press the single-button assistant and see what my dps would be

[undone flower]

BIG

[keen nimbus]

Like 0 invites in 15's. The meta hammer hits hard

[quiet osprey]

why is that arms warrior running Avatar Slayer 🤦‍♂️

[fiery edge]

He’s beginning to believe

[fiery edge]

Ts an illusion

[fiery hare]

How was single target vs those 2 classes?

[quiet osprey]

ah nah talents are fucked he ran bladestorm, something weird with warcraft logs, good 🤦‍♂️

[undone flower]

Avatar is not a choice node with bladestorm as arms

It’s bladestorm/ravager

[quiet osprey]

yeah yeah, just realized (I don't play slayer T.T)

[undone flower]

Slarms plays with avatar

[quiet osprey]

but was super confused for a good few minutes

i just stared at the wowhead calc in disbelief

[undone flower]

2nd, 3rd and last boss of magister terrace, we took trash with the first

[fiery hare]

Nice, u pumped hard on last one

[undone flower]

it is a patchwerk boss

[median token]

no revvez this race, feelsbad

[undone flower]

i didn't move for 2min 38

[coarse flume]

GM! I have questions, I see some people using Thane builds when raiding. I understand thane is best for World and M+ but is it viable/good for raiding? or just keep on using St Slayer? and when doing M+ Bosses do I keep using Multi Thane build or go St thane? I'd appreciate it, if someone could explain, thx.

[undone flower]

thane is really good in raid rn

[pliant jackal]

there is no st or aoe thane

its just thane

[undone flower]

it's a dmg profile preference on certain bosses, but on others you 100% play thane

[wintry oak]

can someone explain to me why this happens lol?

[coarse flume]

thx for the response everyone 🙂

[viral shore]

as far as I know (for now) slayer is basically 1-2% dmg increase on 2 bosses this tier, if played perfectly. I opt'ed to full thane now, even though I find the tc animation to be too slow. 🙁 but I'm not the best player anyway, so... 😄

[undone flower]

Is it a key ?

[wintry oak]

its first boss mythic

[undone flower]

What is the issue ?

[verbal steppe]

So what item should i craft wrists or back? i saw on raider a lot of people craft the back aswell what should i go for?

[wintry oak]

i cant figure out why his rampage is dealing almost double the damage mine is

like he cast 116 times and has 7.10M damage

i casted it 115 and have 4.17M, even the hits are almost double

[undone flower]

His rampages hits twice as much as you

[wintry oak]

yes but what is the reason for it happening, i don't know what to improve

[undone flower]

You got 448 hits, he got 704

Can you send the log ?

[wintry oak]

private message or here?

[undone flower]

As you want

Here more people might notice what’s wrong

[wintry oak]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/3RGrbKzJBwv6fAT9/QhTaDX2HM7vRVGpr?fight=3%2C64&type=damage-done&source=23%2CNotberry

thx for helping btw

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3RGrbKzJBwv6fAT9?fight=3

thats mine

[undone flower]

you didn't filter boss dmg

[edgy widget]

this might have something to do with it

[wintry oak]

i thought i did

[undone flower]

you have to select both bosses in this tab

and yeah he just does aoe, you dont

[edgy widget]

the issue is very obvious

• he cast 118 times and got 704 hits because his talents are correct
• you cast 116 times and got 446 hits because your attacks aren't cleaving

[wintry oak]

hmm

[undone flower]

you forgot your gun in the gunfight

[wintry oak]

maybe i dont notice it, but i was sure i was cleaving

with my thuner clap

[undone flower]

and he still does 10k more boss dmg as you (even if i cut the log when he killed it)

[verbal steppe]

So what item should i craft wrists or back? i saw on raider a lot of people craft the back aswell what should i go for?

[wintry oak]

with rampage?

[edgy widget]

you're not even running the Thunder Clap spec bruh

[wintry oak]

ooh yeah

fuck i forgot lol

mb

[undone flower]

no, overall boss dmg

[wintry oak]

im actually stupid

[edgy widget]

I mean that could be caused by all sorts of different things - its not relevant to the core issue

[wintry oak]

i forgot i switched my build

lol

[edgy widget]

like the adds not dying fast because someone isn't cleaving

[undone flower]

tbf if he targeted the good one, he did the job

[edgy widget]

he forgot the gun, the bullets, and how to load it

bet the Warlocks loved him though, they got to do so much more add damage!

[neat coral]

When will blizz make slayer a viable ST spec oh wise fury 8 ball

[wintry oak]

thx guys lol

sorry for being stupid

[undone flower]

happens dw, just check your talents before pulling

i did a full normal run with a 1 hand weapon on my alt war 2 weeks ago

[wintry oak]

i think i had to switch to st because the add wasnt been killed in time

[neat coral]

You’ll do more add damage in thane

[undone flower]

move first into the mindset of targeting more the add

[neat coral]

If you just smash thunderblast and clap

[undone flower]

before switching hero

if the boss start to enrage, yes maybe have a thought of switching slayer, if YOUR slayer does more ST than YOUR thane

[worn yoke]

im raid leadng this tier and thane is simply smoother so am just playing thane every boss even though its not optimal (which id usually be chasing) but still have logged a 98 so far and a few purps

[verbal steppe]

So what item should i craft wrists or back? i saw on raider a lot of people craft the back aswell what should i go for?

[wintry oak]

does thane do both?

st and aoe

[wintry oak]

with the m+ build?

[undone flower]

the spec tree and hero tree are the same but you can change useless (in raid) class talents, you can find a raid build on wowhead or warcraftlogs and such

[brittle stone]

seems l'île everyspec is getting buff besides warrior, with the 'erf to Thane and the nerf to ST slayer we gonna drop a lot of the chart right ?

[verbal steppe]

in the middle what should i put?

[remote bobcat]

the missive that your sim tells you to craft

[verbal steppe]

mastery and haste ig

[coarse flume]

do u raid with ST thane on bosses? or just keep using Multi Thane build? or do u switch depending on the situation?

[viral shore]

I think mastery haste if you don't want to constantly recraft it for different stats depending on recent sims. I usually have my crafted stuff fixed and sim around it with the other items.

[verbal steppe]

kk thanks

[undone flower]

if there is 1 extra target = you take ww talents

[coarse flume]

Got it, thanks! 👌

[worn yoke]

I've literally been using my m+ build which has a bit of cc in it because so much is needed / helpful to have this tier.

[signal falcon]

Should we be dooming about 0.5 patch or am I missing something

Reap deleted from Slayer’s ST damage with nothing to compensate that I can see

Clap nerfed for Thane AoE with nothing to compensate that I can see

[waxen vale]

.5 is arms patch

[indigo girder]

there are no change for warr fury in the next patch

[waxen vale]

????

april fools was a couple days ago

[indigo girder]

they dont change anything ?

[waxen vale]

brother you might wanna sit down

[indigo girder]

is a question

[signal falcon]

Think you’re confusing this week’s tuning with the 0.5 patch notes we’re being drip fed

Scroll through the updates-midnight channel and you can piece things together

[waxen vale]

they are fucking us yet again o7

[indigo girder]

y but in ptr, they will change that in retail too ?? i mean 12.0.5

for the next week no change

[signal falcon]

One day PTR becomes live bro 😆

[waxen vale]

its a few weeks away

[signal falcon]

Just because it’s not happening this week doesn’t mean it’s not coming

[indigo girder]

nono that was my question, it will be live ?? the nerf ? and they kill us ?

[waxen vale]

it will yes

[signal falcon]

Well there’s still a chance they revise things again I guess

[waxen vale]

bigbdoubt. release candy is p much done. but we can hope

[signal falcon]

But a few of the changes have already been iterated on so the chances are slim

[indigo girder]

thats a shit

lets swipe arms

[signal falcon]

Just want Slayer to be good 🥲

[indigo girder]

mhhh

[signal falcon]

Or just delete/merge hero talents

[vestal dragon]

So back again, fury is shining or we still gona wait for 0.5 patch?

[signal falcon]

It’s ok just now

Future remains murky

[indigo girder]

now is ok, but now arms is better, and then the difference will be enormous

[vestal dragon]

so 1 more week needed?

[honest trail]

Hey guys, how would you rate fury from 1 to 5 in all those situations?

[hollow leaf]

3, 1, 5, 3, 4, 5, 5

[burnt oxide]

What is best, what is worst

[hollow leaf]

assuming 5 is best

[honest trail]

1 worst

5 best

[burnt oxide]

Yeah, pretty accurate then

[honest trail]

5 switching as Thane cause 0 requirements?

[hollow leaf]

you don't have any requirements as slayer either

[honest trail]

I'd put it 4 or 3 as Slayer cause of overwhelmed stacks

You have overwhelm

5% dmg

[hollow leaf]

massive

[honest trail]

It's something

But yeah kinda gree with you

It's ez to switch, we just do low burst dmg so it rarely does much if it's adds

[burnt oxide]

Our burst movement also helps alot on switching

Charge/leap

[honest trail]

yy

Switching often is a big loss on overall dmg tho

[burnt oxide]

Kinda not in comparisson

Imo

[undone flower]

yeah it is basicaly 0 loss

you press sudden death you get your overwhelmed stacks back

and if it's an important switch you would bladestorm the shit out of it to begin with

[honest trail]

I meant it as like since fury is very uptime dependent, switching often means a couple of GCD loss

Which matters a lot for this spec

In overall dmg

[burnt oxide]

One gcd max in most cases

[undone flower]

yeah leap or charge is not that big x)

[burnt oxide]

Maybe some loss of cleave tho if priority target outside of cleave range

[undone flower]

just to ww mid charge anyway

[honest trail]

There's usually downtime when tanks need time to gather/build aggro

It's different on boss to boss switch y

[burnt oxide]

Yeah but the downtime is on almost all classes to wait for gathering, threat is kinda meh rn

[honest trail]

Of course

It's very punishing for fury

[undone flower]

it's more that packs are really spaced out a lot in bunch of dungeons but yeah

[honest trail]

Compared to some others

[undone flower]

and if you really want to farm cdr just follow the tank and hit the same targets

you will not steal aggro if you press 1 tc

on a pack the tank spent 2 gcd attacking

and if he dashes out, into another pack, follow him

dont stay on the initial pack

[honest trail]

Sounds fair?

As Slayer in raid

burst AOE*

[lusty jetty]

Kinda feel like every thing is being buffed around Fury are we being forced into arms? Never played it don’t really want to either but having to choose betweeen AOE or frenzied regen is making me feel kinda squishy, then every patch I just read more changes and buffs to every class and spec but fury.

Happy with my damage for now but we’re closing on the point of dropping down the table and arms is already out performing in a few situations feels kinda bleak.

[undone flower]

i wouldn't say 3 in st currently tbf

[honest trail]

I'd want to say higher personally lol

[undone flower]

i would say 1 x)

[honest trail]

It's not bad

[arctic dagger]

New warr here, with the M+ build do we simply never use WW as TC/TB replaces this?

[lusty jetty]

Never us Ww yep only clap for 4 charges

[arctic dagger]

Legend thanks

[honest trail]

Sssh

[undone flower]

copy the number your enh sham or destro lock put

[lusty jetty]

Remember to spend clap charges if your on 2 to avoid overlaps @arctic dagger

[honest trail]

But I keep up with our UH ST dmg!!

🙁

[undone flower]

you know why

[burnt oxide]

Tbf the graph is for 95 percentile

And not for

[honest trail]

I'll keep it at 3, I trust

rofl

[burnt oxide]

Some classes might perform a bit different based on your comp and needs

[lusty jetty]

The auto attack nerf hurt our boss damage you won’t ever beat a good unholy, enhance , sub rogue now , possible bm hunter , mage , warlock and survival hunter

We rely on cheese and adds cleave to remain anywhere on metre

[lusty jetty]

Then Your unholy is bad I log 94-98 and our unholy is 23k ahead

[honest trail]

I haven't checked in detail must say x)

We all parsed 96-97

For Fury/DK

So I guess so xD

[devout wolf]

quick question. can i equip 2x of the same crafter weapon?

[lusty jetty]

Main issue with fury for me right now is no frenzied regen choice in AOE keys hurt

Make it baseline already lol

[final robin]

Yeah I noticed that when I came back, didn't really play TWW, but in DF I remember it always being there

[hollow leaf]

ye crafted weps aren't unique afaik

[hollow leaf]

well you're playing thane in keys so you can just drop massacre

it's like a 1% dps loss on st

[devout wolf]

thanks! wanted to be sure before i crafted another 285 and not being able toequip would make me quit retail

[hollow leaf]

can you even craft a 2nd wep rn

should only be at 6 sparks rn

[burnt oxide]

Tbf fury is still quite bulky without regen, but still odd like this

[burnt oxide]

Nope

[hollow leaf]

yeah thought so xd

[burnt oxide]

I hope he didnt craft 1h

[final robin]

Impending victory heals a good chunk

But uh, def not enough sometimes

[hollow leaf]

also sucks having to spend a global on healing yourself

just drop massacre and grab ER

[burnt oxide]

The global wasted is like nothing

But spellreflect + defstance is quite strong, the stancechange hurts more tho

[lusty jetty]

Try a high nexus point u won’t have time to victory rush and you can’t drop damage anywhere or you may aswell be arms we already get slapped by half the classes in the game in majority of situations. ATM I’m having to stance dance which I haven’t need to do since Wotlk

[hollow leaf]

ye but to get stance mastery you'd switch away from crushing force

[burnt oxide]

Never talked about the mastery, the normal one already helps alot

[hollow leaf]

ah I misunderstood what you said mb

[burnt oxide]

We are alot safer baseline than most specs, but yes, no regen still hurts

[lusty jetty]

Completely agree due to 2 2 handers our health is chunky but most other classes get there defensive base lined and it’s not a choice node with the choice of damage or life.

Even as arms you get die by the sword every build

[burnt oxide]

Also got -10% at (almost) all times

[undone flower]

What difficulty

[honest trail]

Heroic x)

I was benched for mythic

[burnt oxide]

Spellreflect working on stuff it should not is also quite funny

[undone flower]

you know i don't need to explain

[arctic dagger]

What about single target with the m+ build, on bosses. Does much change?

[remote bobcat]

that unholy dk on top is so fake that spec is so fucking buggy on vorasius

one pull you do 80k next pull you do 100k and you dont change playstyle at all

[undone flower]

there is always a bigger fish

[dense elbow]

That surv hunter needs a wellness check sent to their house, they seem to lost the ability to use half of their body

[burnt oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/pargusmajor-fish-pagrus-major-fishing-gif-17475862317703866134

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-p-pe-zGuiJzgLAYyHnRVKmD

Tank clearly didnt hold threat

[safe orbit]

fury or arms better for m+?

[earnest canyon]

Whats the easiest dungeon to do on a 13? I just need one to push myself over 3k

[quick schooner]

hello . how to costuomize Sensei Class Resource Bar . in edit mode when i click on the bar nothing apear

[safe orbit]

skyreach

or seat

[edgy oasis]

Anyone else feeling this thunderclap nerf is going to shake everything up! Like. Fury being shit in m+. Like right now, I feel relevant.

[earnest canyon]

really? I thought they were supposed to be the hardest

[edgy oasis]

100% is not seat.

[earnest canyon]

WS is the only one that was painful on a 12 for some reasn

@dense elbow you are smart: easiest dung for a +13?

[quick schooner]

you playing warrior and you think you gona stay relevant XD warrior is a packup class it style with snap dmg make it good in raid which is main reason it become shit on mythic plus

[copper parcel]

fury aint shit in m+ its just not giga overpowered like those dum dum hunters and shit

but next patch update is gonna make warrior a sad class

[edgy oasis]

Finally back on topic. Well done.

Yes. Right now. 6+ targets im creaming. Come patch...serious questions need to be asked.

[digital tundra]

do we know when it goes live?

[edgy oasis]

I guess reset???

[quick schooner]

patch note in mmochamp ?

[edgy oasis]

Check update on this discord.

[dense elbow]

probably seat

[quick schooner]

i see nothing about fury for 7 april

[safe orbit]

its only PTR

[deft palm]

Fury dead?

[edgy oasis]

This means we will need to cycle in a BB which will give bleeds abit more love but ultimately that rampage thunderclap spam on big pulls going to hit us hard!

Meanwhile warlock dk shammy all popping 400-500k lol

[earnest canyon]

Even with last boss?

[safe orbit]

no

[red berry]

we’ll see what they do since we still have a few weeks

kind of would like thunder blast to be strong again

[cedar crescent]

Will Thane be dead next week?

[safe orbit]

no

without change on pve

[cedar crescent]

40% nerf, wont that make Slayer better?

[safe orbit]

its on PTR only, where u see it on blue post?

[cedar crescent]

PTR sure

Have not seen it yet in the blue post

[safe orbit]

without change with reset

[cedar crescent]

Anyone done the sims? Does arms outpreform fury?

[flat river]

pure ST? yes, pure MT? yes

MT fights in raid? fury better

[cedar crescent]

Pure st arms kinda shit still

[flat river]

but arms wins

[cedar crescent]

Really?

[flat river]

we have the lowest boss damage in the game right now

[burnt oxide]

There is no real pure st situation as far as i can tell

[flat river]

there is?

king salhadar

[burnt oxide]

The one that spawns orbs, that split into more orbs and respawn

[flat river]

the birb boss

vorsaius also can be argued

[burnt oxide]

There are adds and eggs to be killed

[flat river]

just use sweeping strikes?

its 2 adds

[burnt oxide]

I was talking about pure st, so kinda

[flat river]

midnight falls boss

well they go pure ST in those bosses

[burnt oxide]

I was considering the bosses instead of the builds

[flat river]

well both are considered

because sometimes the adds don't last

[burnt oxide]

Fair point

[rare garnet]

why would we get any changes, charts show fury is thriving

people seem surprised

[cedar crescent]

Not on Mythic

Alot of smol adds

I like the state of fury, need a tad ST and we are fine.

[mild arch]

Can someone advise me. On a pull with more than 6 adds. Are you freely pressing thunder clap procs or are you still holding them to weave into the cleave buff so every 5th attack

[forest tapir]

In Recklessness window when the empowered Bloodthirst (with 3 casts without CD) and 2 stacks of Thunderblast are available and Im at full rage what do I priorise?

[fiery hare]

tb

[sharp bough]

any1 using addons for spell reflect since spell reflect essentials is gone?

[forest tapir]

You trolling?

[warm crag]

have you checked the wowhead rotation section

[forest tapir]

Yes. Found it not clear

[warm crag]

why not it outlines a strict priority between the three conditions you listed

the burst of power proc doesnt affect your rotation

can you point out which part is unclear maybe we can clear it up

[eternal sundial]

spmngus toxin

[hollow leaf]

Rampage > tb > bb until at 100+ rage to ramp again

Prio on st while in ava is
Ramp (100+ rage)
Tb if 2 stacks
Bb
Ramp
Tb
Execute

[forest tapir]

Thanks

[sullen dove]

You mean my elite tank pulls and game knowledge allowed us to briskly 3chest every 10 we did together

u and xan omega boosted

[marsh knoll]

Noob here, should I hold out and craft a second 285 offhand, or bracers ? I dont plan on raiding at all, just casual m+

[sullen dove]

no reason to ever craft 2nd weap till u have like 10 excess sparks but even then not rly

bracer is fine

[sudden tusk]

Bracer or cloak good

[quick schooner]

guys as warrior fury out of the 5 tier set item which one we dont use for tier set

helm ? shoulder ? chest etc which piece we dont turn to tier set i mean

[marsh knoll]

🫡

Wow head bis list says gloves is offpiece

And you want the void dmg gloves from seat iirc

[fallen ginkgo]

chest

but getting 4set is better than waiting if you thinking about that

can anyone tell me how the vualt works again? if i kill new raid on normal and i have 3 heroic slots unlocked in vualt, can i get hero items from new raid? or do i need to kill the new bosses on heroic too to unlock the loot pool for vault

[hollow leaf]

Gloves

Your gloves are from seat

[normal shuttle]

what are we using to sim for raid? hectic add cleave? cleave add?

[hollow leaf]

Single target

[normal shuttle]

even though our ST is poopoo?

[hollow leaf]

HAC is often very poorly maintained

[normal shuttle]

oooh

[kindred aurora]

fellow warrior 2 questions 1 why i suck so much and 2 why in this log his thunderclap hit like a nuclear bomb?
my log: https://it.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t4nNAWhYHzw7ZTKP?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=6
compared log:https://it.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rtQRM8qB1KCpnmfw?fight=9&type=damage-done&source=4

[hollow leaf]

You generally sim for st with patchwerk 1 target 5 min, if you want to see if there's any egregious gear differences between st and aoe you can sim 5t patchwerk and make a decision between what's more needed

[normal shuttle]

that makes a ton of sense, thank you 🙂

[hollow leaf]

Np

[hollow leaf]

Can check when I get home but it's kind of hard to compare between m+ logs since they differ so much depending on pull order and cds available, but I can see that you're not weaving thunderclap into every other gcd during avatar on aoe

On 7+ targets your rotation is basically tc > ramp > repeat

Sorry can't see much on phone

You had 192 tb cast and 145 tc casts, he had 206 tb casts and 172 tc casts, so just casting it more

[kindred aurora]

bloodbath only during cd?

[hollow leaf]

Can't see hit comparisons but his pulls could've just been bigger which favors tc and tb

[hollow leaf]

Bb after tc if you can't ramp yeah

[kindred aurora]

ok

[hollow leaf]

You're just following the aoe prio during avatar

Given the cdr you get on tc during avatar this becomes tc every other gcd

(For now, this changes in .5)

[deft palm]

So even at 80 rage if we dont have TB or BT/BB we just rampage?

[hollow leaf]

Yeah

[deft palm]

Interesting

Raging blow is really that useless huh

[kindred aurora]

now the opposite we are at 80 rragen dont have tb but have bt/bb allways rampage?

[deft palm]

Bt till 100 rage

[sullen dove]

if ur not enraged yes but if u are no reason cant slam bt

[deft palm]

I feel like removing rb from my bar

Lol

[olive wraith]

That would be silly

[hollow leaf]

You still press it, it's just lower prio than ramp < 100 rage

[kindred aurora]

buf rampage is capped at 5 target right? why have high prio if >7 target

[deft palm]

Tc 6+ targets

[sudden tusk]

Gloves

You use voidclaw gauntlets from seat

[sullen dove]

why does auto swapping gear sets from fury to arms not remove my offhand...

have to manually take it off every time even tho my arms set only has 1 weapon...

[dry hawk]

That's gonna cost us all a raid tier to implement

[tender seal]

The technology just isnt there yet mate. (Im pretty sure this has been an issue for like 4+ years )

[sudden tusk]

Because your heart is full of greed

[olive wraith]

Ramp is our only spender and it does a few things outside of damage

[sullen dove]

quite a lot of things

[somber thicket]

After all the balance notes what the fck we will be playing? St is dog shit and it seams soon aoe will be to.

[sullen dove]

holding out hope for some st returns

but arms colossus is 📈

[somber thicket]

Arms colosus is the most clunky spec in game. It like driving a truck with a bicikle wheel

[dry hawk]

no wonder my prot/arms set does literally 0 damage, arms and prot is haste>crit. Fury is Haste>mast

[sudden tusk]

I'm ready for paladins prog on Monday

Will be fun

I have so much mastery it's a problem

[digital ore]

Whats your mastery at atm?

Also playing thane or slayer?

[sudden tusk]

Thane for raid and mastery isn't bad for fury it's I don't have enough crit for arms

I'll be on paladins soon

[digital ore]

I was just curious about your % atm

[sudden tusk]

51 I think

[digital ore]

Ah aight ty

[sudden tusk]

But that's with buffs

[restive peak]

I just stayed fury cuz we got to paladins w like 40m left last night, honestly I was very competitive with the mostly consistent 3T down to like 60%ish

Fight is batshit it's fun

[dry hawk]

I wish details still showed casts, trying to unfuck a rotation 🙁

[sullen dove]

Arms dragon was so much more enjoyable brah it’s insane

Shoutout @dapper goblet telling me to swap

goat

and I’m sure coulda played it like 20% better

[dapper goblet]

skyhold has been missing those who offer good guidance for many moons

[sullen dove]

yes

all hail Willy wonka

[sudden tusk]

We were late enough I just said fuck it since we like it with an hour

Prob do it next week

[sudden tusk]

Xeos for blue?

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[dry hawk]

wrong channel

[mint moat]

With lust up in cds and +6 targets is it better to go TC after the initial TB into ramp or go TC into BB then ramp even if we might overcap to try to extend avatar and force more TBs? Essentially are we only going TC into Ramp forgoing BB for TBs because of the reduced GCD.

[golden solstice]

Is anyone running double of the same wep enchant?

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-druski-erika-kirk-erika-kirk-druski-white-teebelair-gif-7791260372100942382

[low oak]

Are we done crying about the nerfs?

[smoky vale]

???

yeah man i ttotally didnt say it firdt

cheers

[sudden tusk]

Shmio41

[modest condor]

no 😢

[viral shore]

I did until it simmed worse.

[sudden tusk]

Are you doing alt runs again

[smoky vale]

i think so but itll likely be cursed

but thats the usual

[unborn delta]

can i come

[mint moat]

With lust up in cds and +6 targets is it better to go TC after the initial TB into ramp or go TC into BB then ramp even if we might overcap to try to extend avatar and force more TBs? Essentially are we only going TC into Ramp forgoing BB for TBs because of the reduced GCD. Anyone??

[golden solstice]

thank you!

[vernal mulch]

why are more and more people taking mt in raid than slayer? i remember it being 70-30 week 1 with more ppl taking slayer for fights and since then its been trending to more and more mt in all the fights

[young swan]

in cleave talents for slayer, its like maybe 2% better ST but 15% worse on aoe

[unborn delta]

the first 3 fights are all pad opportunityies

[vernal mulch]

ah i see
how are we looking as of right now with the proposed changes for .5 patch? slayer aoe is getting buffed right?

will slayer become a good replacement for the mt nerfs? mt nerfs are like 14% right

[unborn delta]

slayer also getting reap nerfs

colo arms is gonna own in 12.0.5

[young swan]

fury is getting shot in the head

until/unless they announce tuning we will be entirely uncompetitive

[sullen falcon]

hey all,new to the game( 1month playing now) and i made a warrior,went with the furry talent tree+slayer,now im 260 itl and having a blast btw,but why do i feel that the dmg is not there,i have heard that mountain thame is better but still,would love if some1 helps me with some tips,tyy

[vernal mulch]

oh i thought slayer was getting buffs with reap the storm/imminent demise

[burnt oxide]

It gets moved to aoe only

[vernal mulch]

we could always just shut down the server

[burnt oxide]

Atleast reap

[young swan]

its maybe a minor aoe buff but just a straight ~6% st nerf based on my rough guesstimate

[young swan]

would depend on what content you're doing, but fury in general is somewhat lacking on single target, and slayer specifically is pretty behind in sustained aoe situations

[vernal mulch]

oh gotcha
so fury do be getting gutted

if these changes to do live with no other tuning right

[charred flume]

how much damage should i be losing after a burstn window ?

like opener wise

[sullen falcon]

well im still not rading,doing some mythics,but still wanna try raiding soon

[vernal mulch]

lol is it time to transition

[young swan]

yeah pretty much, at this point i would consider no additional tuning to be highly unlikely

[sullen falcon]

but from what i read here,warrio is not in the bestplace rn hahah

[young swan]

its more so a matter of them doing it in a timely manner than them doing it at all

[vernal mulch]

true. how long til the .5 patch again? and we also will probably have tuning after rwf right

[young swan]

roughly? maybe 3-4 weeks

its weird cause getting a release candidate this early is like

a bit odd

but based on past experience, ptrs are roughly 8 weeks

[regal coral]

It really looks more like additions they didn’t get to add for full release, but had mostly completed the implementation of them since a lot of other side stuff is being added in with the rest of the changes. They have been doing these filler patches faster than previously.

[vernal mulch]

hows fury doing in raid rn compared to arms? it seems to be middle of the pack but neck and neck with arms in heroic/mythic (95th percentile, past week data)

but boss damage is worse than arms

iirc?

[sullen falcon]

sorry but 1 final question,how do i set to see my enrage buff in the middle ? ty

[slate escarp]

Whats the best race for warrior?

[young swan]

pandaren

[keen kindle]

Kul tiran for mog

Thou on a real note, panda might change as we get more stats. Panda comes out p good early xpack cuz we have less stats

[slate escarp]

why are nobody panda then? xD

[young swan]

cause they look like shit and swapping races for dps is dumb

[slate escarp]

true

[vernal mulch]

lol do they? never had a panda loll

are likey like mog handicapped lmfao

[burnt oxide]

I am female panda

Dont look at old helmets, they will jumpscare you

[vernal mulch]

lmao

[burnt oxide]

They just scaled everything from human base

[vernal mulch]

so pandaren racial benefit goes down later in the season as we get more stats?

so with the squish + new xpac panda benefit must be pretty big then right

[burnt oxide]

Panda is bis for pit if your team is too stupid to play gargoyles

[slate escarp]

i go dwarf or human xD

[sour cloak]

did the mountain thane thunderclap nerf already happen?

or we waiting for update?

[frozen portal]

Are we playing arms now

[burnt oxide]

only ptr, so subjective to change

and we play legs

[vernal mulch]

i mean is arms doing as good as fury rn?

[slate escarp]

better

[wanton aspen]

Better in raid or m+

?

[slate escarp]

m+

on some bosses in raid too

[vernal mulch]

lets do both
raid they seem neck and neck
m+ i got no idea

[burnt oxide]

high end performance appears similar, but those are way more dedicated ppl

[vernal mulch]

u think arms is doing better in keys (12+) than fury atm? i havent tried arms at all yet

fury kinda feelsbadman with targetcap damage

[slate escarp]

of course

arms is going crazy right now

[vernal mulch]

i see why people would rather bring uhdk or ret

[burnt oxide]

[vernal mulch]

what the fuck

anyways
fury seems better in raid still than arms except for in vanguard

[burnt oxide]

those textures were not made for that size

[left peak]

Is Slayer far behind MT in m+, i feel like its 20k total dmg loss

[charred flume]

anyone know how much dps u are supposed to lose on burst window opener end

i go from like 70k to averaging 45 to 50k on single

[fallen ginkgo]

Even more no? But wont be like that for long when the nerfs come around

[wheat lantern]

BiS list saying twisting void , but when I sim its cooked , preyseeker obv the better choice with haste and mastery yeah ?

at 994 mastery atm

[fast mural]

sims > BiS list

bis list is only BiS if you have every piece on there

[wheat lantern]

whats the DR on stats

soft cap

[fast mural]

if mastery still sims better then you havnt reached it yet or the DR doesnt matter

[olive wraith]

Don’t worry about that

Sim answers that for you

[wheat lantern]

kk

ty ty

[dull wolf]

I have a video where BT has incurred a CD while still having 1 charge of burst of power - is this a weird interaction or a bug or my UI going mental? Action bar also shows CD

[opaque nova]

how can I sim different prepots?

[full pumice]

are the gloves from seat really needed or is that super min-maxy

[deft palm]

soemone told me if we're playing slayer we want to rampage at 115 rage

is that true?

[serene moat]

At ilvl 266 the effect voidclaw does between 200 and 250 dps over a raid encounter...

[limpid tide]

Everything adds up

[serene moat]

Fury Warrior Rotation Guide - Midnight - Wowhead https://share.google/4HauQ0v24GIMnzwcc

[limpid tide]

(I also cannot get those gloves)

[serene moat]

Ramp above 100 rage

[serene moat]

it's not much, but it's free dps

[sullen dove]

It’s also doubled if u have alleria neck

does about as much dmg as gloves and gloves basically full uptime proc its effect

[sudden tusk]

Big moth at work

[trail bane]

Echo has gone dark and stopped showing their logs for RWF tracking. Clearly testing out some tripple fury warrior strats

[young swan]

obviously

[supple glen]

most likely

[sudden tusk]

Didn't they go to bed

[trail bane]

The turning off RWF logging suggests to me they are doing some pulls off stream

[supple glen]

they do it to flex that they won despite having fury warriors

[trail bane]

But yea their raid day is over

[urban shoal]

why is there no bis arms/fury ST sim on simulationcraft.org?

[trail bane]

because it would be embarassing <- This is a joke btw, its not the actual reason. Just thought i'd point it out before someone gets the wrong impression

This spreadsheet has sims if you want to look at it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/edit?gid=1583635048#gid=1583635048

[urban shoal]

thank you sir

[supple glen]

warrior will surely scale with gear later into the expansion

[trail bane]

There will be plenty of balance patches between now and the expansion ending

We have no idea what specs will be good the next season by looking at this season

[urban shoal]

i'm aware, was just looking for a bis sim

[trail bane]

Was responding to Kassk :p

[urban shoal]

ah 🙂

[supple glen]

funny, going off of that list, fury is by far the worst pi recipient on pull

[trail bane]

Our cds are very short so they cant be very powerful. Classes with bigger cds will be better on pull

And with pi

Well thats not the entire picture, classes with better haste scaling will also benefit more from pi

[supple glen]

was a bit surprised for it to be that low despite haste being 2nd best stat

not that its lower compared to others

[trail bane]

Monk for example has haste as their best stat and scales very good with their big cd.

[supple glen]

overall its closer to others at least

[placid pasture]

any particular reason most guides for ST Thane have odyns fury before popping reck instead of after?

[supple glen]

ya fists should gain a lot

[trail bane]

Big part of Odyns Fury is the dot which still happen during the Reck buff. Also leaves more gcds in Reck for Bloodbath and Rampage

[placid pasture]

ah okay ty

[charred flint]

Is Slayer better than Thane in any dungeons?

or naw

[dusky anchor]

Wait wtf they took out the line from 12.0.5 saying that rampage/cleave will proc reap the storm or am I going crazzy?

[young swan]

link

[urban shoal]

just curious, whats the actual reason?

[dusky anchor]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-12-0-5-ptr-development-notes-for-march-31st-weapon-sheathing-transmog-and-381068

[young swan]

those are just the notes for that specific week

they dont put all notes in every week

[dusky anchor]

Ok im not following this updates anymore, im going crazy

:)) thanks

So isnt fury slayer gonna be decent then ? Arms slayer dead ok , but fury?

[young swan]

it will be marginally better at aoe than it is now and worse on ST

assuming nothing changes

(bad assumption)

[trail bane]

i dont know

[dusky anchor]

Man can we just stick to something for 2 weeks straight im sick of swapping

[olive wraith]

Then don’t swap

[dusky anchor]

😶‍🌫️

[olive wraith]

Get your ce and 3k io then unsub

Easy mode

[wispy bridge]

Anyone got some mythic chimerus tips?
I am in group one and saving pot and Reck/Avatar for the first downstair adds. The problem is I sometimes rip aggro of the big add and die.
Should I just send cds on pull with lust to prevent that or wait a bit before dpsing the adds?

[young swan]

just chill a sec

[wispy bridge]

aight gonna try to keep it in my pants a bit longer

[fast mural]

is there a way to move the loss of controll alert to a different position or does anyone know an addon that does except elvui

im sick of it completly covering my entire character

[formal jacinth]

Does anyone know if Mountain Thane and Slayer are close enough to play either in keys?

[sudden tusk]

No thane is very far ahead

[formal jacinth]

oh okay gotcha

ty!

[sudden tusk]

But for 10s it doesn't matter

[formal jacinth]

(very new to warrior so still lots to learn)

[craggy gulch]

Do you guys prioritize thunderclap above the single target abilities outside of cool downs if there are more than six targets

[wispy bridge]

In raid, does berserker shout work for everyone or only people in your specific group?

[hollow leaf]

warrior so ass I went tank

[spark wing]

Is there someone able to tell me what im doing wrong in boss fights that my dps is so low, 264 ilvl and if its pure single target its like 50-60k dps

[hollow leaf]

need a log

[spark wing]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QvPcCRqjVBYHF3Jp

[trail bane]

Sounds about right.

[indigo sigil]

love aug

[rugged sphinx]

I feel like i either do really well or really bad on fights and there is no in between.

[spark wing]

i mostly do really bad in almost every boss fight in raids

only on bellamy i do somewhat decent dps

since theres constant 3 targest

[trail bane]

Logging on every boss is all about padding on adds this tier. (Could be different for Belo'ren and Midnight Falls, i havnt done those)

If your raid has other classes which have better burst pad you will most likely get a bad log.

[fast mural]

midnight falls has some pad aswell

at leat in p1

[trail bane]

It does, i just dont know how consequencial it will be for logging

[fast mural]

as soon as there are adds its always consequencial

for parsing that is

[trail bane]

Dragons for example its impossible to get a good log if your group has 2 affliction warlocks and a good monk and a sub rogue, since they will just kill the adds before you get your second thunder blast off

[fast mural]

its worse on arms cause demolish takes a while to pop off

[spark wing]

idk, i feel so bad for the rest of my group in raids, like my only value is battle shout lmao

[trail bane]

Sadly that is kinda our job this tier

Battle shout and dmg adds

Just take 5% from all the attack power classes and add it to your damage

:D

[fast mural]

its not a monk buff its not 5%

[unborn delta]

so hutners

do dks us ap

[fast mural]

if your frost maybe

[trail bane]

Wait, battle shout isnt 5%?

[fast mural]

its 5% attack power but that doesnt translate to 5% dmg

[trail bane]

it does for attack power classes

[fast mural]

so for us and hunters but only if they dont play sentinel or dark ranger

[trail bane]

What do those classes base their damage on if not attack power?

Intelligence?

I think you got it the other way around if im not mistaken

Monk buffs physical damage, not all damage

Battle shout buffs all damage from attack power classes by 5%

[drifting token]

It raises your attack power stat by 5%

[trail bane]

Yes

So any ability that reads something like "Deals 347% of attack power" on wowhead

[spark wing]

yeah well i know im not going to top dps but i really do feel bad for my guild and seeing logs made me think that i must be doing something wrong when compared to other furys near my ilvl

[drifting token]

That does not become 352%

[trail bane]

No

I know how percentages work

[drifting token]

The move still deals 347%, but that 347% is working off of a larger pool of atk power

[undone flower]

Agility and strength = bshout

[drifting token]

That does not directly translate to a 5% increase in dmg

[trail bane]

...

If i have 100 attack power then my imagined ability will deal 347 damage

If i increase my attack power by 5% suddenly i have 105 attack power

and my ability will do 1.05 * old damage as the new damage

in other words, it increased by 5%

[undone flower]

Bshout/mage buff is the melee/caster comp thing
Monk/dh is the phys/magic comp

[trail bane]

Be free to check 3.47 * 105 and see if its 5% bigger than 347

mage buff increases healing and damage done by classes whose main stat is intelligence

warrior buff increase healign and damage done by classes hose main stat is strength or agi

[unborn delta]

strength

[trail bane]

i say healing and damage, but its essentially everything

[undone flower]

No healer use agility or strength

[trail bane]

if a class has a shield, that increases as well

Prot Paladin uses strength

And has heals

[undone flower]

[modest condor]

cshb healing scales with attack power!

[trail bane]

TRUE!

[fast mural]

MS without battleshout for me hits for 25400 and with BS i hits for 27430 thats 7.5% so turns out i have no idea how multipliers work in wow

[modest condor]

there is variance in ability damage

[fast mural]

so does it just show me the highest possible dmg in the tooltip ?

[undone flower]

And your talented into battlefield commander

[modest condor]

also that

and no it shows you the average afaik

[fast mural]

but then it should be 8%

[undone flower]

No it should be slightly less than 8%

Bc dark sorcery of multipliers of attack power or spell calculation

[hollow leaf]

we lost a soldier today

[trail bane]

0.08 * 25400 = 2032
25400 + 2032 = 27432

[undone flower]

No lie were told seen

[trail bane]

Soounds pretty close to 27430

And i forgot about Battlefield Commander, even better for us

Take 8% from all battle power specs

[modest condor]

5%

[trail bane]

Its only 3% for us

im dumb

ignore me

Also ignore that your tank could just swap to prot

Our raid leader main tank is currently gearing a prot warrior

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

[modest condor]

surely 2 warriors means double the ap bonus

[fast mural]

4 warrior m+ comp soon

[undone flower]

Ret is the main character who gets all the girls, we are the highschool bully who does a cringe coincidence appear each time Rets are with someone in public

[fast mural]

APAB !

all paladins are bitches

[undone flower]

Don’t say that

[trail bane]

UH dk is the guy from the rich family with great genetics and plays guitar like an angel

[fast mural]

talking about palas why did they give prot a frontal that looks like some priory mob attack

[trail bane]

the real question is why did they buff prot pala auto attack damage by 50%

[fast mural]

threat issues on bosses ?

[bright ledge]

got a dum question

im doing thunder blast/thunder clap every 2 gcd

like rampage rapmage thunder blast/clap

or rampage bt .thunderclap

is is that good or nah

in aoe

[spare steppe]

Only at 7 targets or higher for TC every other gcf

[limpid tide]

gotta throw some bloodbaths in there

[spare steppe]

follow Wowhead’s priority for during CDs or not

BB and BT are both big damage

[bright ledge]

so under 7 targets is better rampage>bt and clap to refresh the ww?

i dont undertand the wowhead guide tbh

[limpid tide]

i think madox has a video explaning the priority list

for slayer and thane

[bright ledge]

other question is Mountain thane meta in every dungeon?

or theres dungeon when slayer perfrom better?

[limpid tide]

no idea thane is generally better in dungs atm noxiv runs slayer in alot of his keys for fun and preforms fine

if ur not pushing high keys both are fine but pretty sure thane is better in alot if not all

[limpid tide]

https://www.youtube.com/@Mad_Ox_/videos

[slim coral]

Yes

You can play slayer if you’d like tho

[bright ledge]

i like slayer better yes

[bright ledge]

thanks ill check it out

[worthy stirrup]

it's from mythic +10 nexus i did 94k overall dmg but i think it's too low what i do wrong?

[slim coral]

Then you can play it every dungeon

[normal shuttle]

thunderclap more during avatar when groups are 7+. ramp -> clap -> ramp -> clap

[pliant jackal]

how big are the pulls

[worthy stirrup]

@pliant jackal 2 pack's max 3 blood dk tank

[pliant jackal]

i think i average around 110k+ for nexus

plus if group is better stuff die faster so higher dps

[limpid tide]

looks like u need 2 clap more and bb more

[pliant jackal]

yea you aren't clapping enough

also

[worthy stirrup]

hmm i calap all the time when i need refresh cleave stacks use it just when it's upp?

[warped idol]

how good is the one button rotation? New player asking

[oblique thistle]

Yes just press it

[normal shuttle]

only when you have avatar up and there are 7 mobs

[limpid tide]

depends all prio

[pliant jackal]

for bigs pulls yea its kind of on cd

[oblique thistle]

on lower target counts then yeah you focus more on standard rotation but even then you prio clap over RB

unless its pure st

[sudden tusk]

If you have any questions feel free to ping me

[oblique thistle]

The only objectively correct answer to all of these questions is to play arms btw just saying

[worthy stirrup]

is arms stronger than furry?

[oblique thistle]

Yes and no

[bright ledge]

yes i just want to know wich situation i have to press more bloobath clap etc, if im not wrong rampage always better and raging blow is only when nothing else to press?

[limpid tide]

i main warrior to play fury not arms!

[oblique thistle]

Fury's ST is strictly better

[pliant jackal]

yea arms warriors can kill furries easily

[oblique thistle]

but arms colossus aoe is actually absurd

You even get a bit of funnel if you pull trash onto bosses its pretty legit

[bright ledge]

damn im wasting my time playin fury then

[pliant jackal]

im not sure if you got my joke or not

[sudden tusk]

Check the fury guide i explain why we hit what we hit. If after that you have more questions hit me up

[undone flower]

I didn’t know arms got funnel

[remote bobcat]

hello @sudden tusk big fan of the uppies

[sudden tusk]

Yippie

[sudden tusk]

You do more damage with cleaves based on collo talents

[remote bobcat]

went to ikea today, getting ready to move in with the girlfriend

[sudden tusk]

Hell yeah

[remote bobcat]

Hell yeah

[undone flower]

Oh okok so you don’t even lose prio dmg by doing the AoE rotation ? I need to refresh my arms ball knowledge

[sudden tusk]

It's more that you do more aoe with more mobs up to 5. It just technically adds ST since Ms is on CD as always

[worthy stirrup]

so furry = play for transmog arms = mythic + ?

[limpid tide]

no

[oblique thistle]

play what you enjoy

[edgy widget]

it's not really funnel, it's just more damage

[past pivot]

Arms players can be furry as well if they want

[pliant jackal]

you are lying

there is no such thing

[oblique thistle]

every tauren and worgen warrior are currently en route to your exact location

[bitter palm]

prio dmg doubles with 2 mobs

prio + 2 mobs

doesnt scale past that

due to tierset + fob + colossal might generation

[undone flower]

It’s similar to mm hunter?

[bitter palm]

idk mm

[oblique thistle]

Eh

[undone flower]

For the 2t funnel

[oblique thistle]

Kind of? but not really

[pliant jackal]

ethical dps arms players vs foulbaiting fury players

[oblique thistle]

[undone flower]

I miss a lil bit TWW colat talent

[dry hawk]

Is there an easy way to farm arms gear? I'm full haste> mastery

[oblique thistle]

Click lootspec arms

and then do stuff

if you can believe it

[bitter palm]

i dont tbh

it had too much minmaxing

[dry hawk]

That still gives mastery gear haha

[oblique thistle]

I've gotten plenty of crit gear personally

but I am also arms main

[bitter palm]

u can play with w/e gear

[oblique thistle]

since the start

all stats are good stats tho

[dry hawk]

I'm fury/prot boi was that a fucking mistake

[oblique thistle]

no

not at all

[undone flower]

Im not that great on the spec but it was satisfying to consume all the stacks

[oblique thistle]

fury is solid and prot is solid

[compact loom]

Cleared first two on mythic last night because I’m the only warrior buff in queue

[oblique thistle]

Like if your goal is to raid and do M+ and you want to stay on one spec fury is defintely a very respectable choice rn

[dry hawk]

Gear wise it's a mistake, prot is haste>crit

[oblique thistle]

well

when I tanked prot I just prio ilvl over everything

all stats are good stats

[undone flower]

Just change your jewelry and you can play all specs of war

[bitter palm]

yep

[oblique thistle]

I didnt really care to optimize stats I just needed more stam and more strength to live

[worthy stirrup]

is mastery not powerfull stat that skyrocket furry in sky?

[undone flower]

Jewelry is shit ton of your stats

Just have a prot neck/rings in your bags and you are ready to go die in algethar first pull

[modest condor]

why do you keep mentioning furries in a server about wow?

[oblique thistle]

I was talking specifically about prot

[warm crag]

this does not affect the loot you drop

[spare steppe]

You have a decrease chance of getting shields/1h weapons

Technically speaking of course

[modest condor]

only if those did drop for fury

[olive wraith]

Should spread misinformation that fury has higher chance to get 2h

[dense rivet]

Guys anyone got a fury HUD to share?

[sullen dove]

@covert blaze have you been shot or no

[covert blaze]

no

im gucci

[smoky vale]

goat safe

[undone flower]

Critcake UI is nice (less so his arms one lel), i bet there are plenty good ones,

[smoky vale]

@sudden tusk @unborn delta what are your alts

[sudden tusk]

DK

[smoky vale]

and itd be tomorrow 9 est

[sudden tusk]

my hunter is geared enough yet

oh im scheduled for a sale then already, but i can plan around it next week

[smoky vale]

all good

[sudden tusk]

yuh

[unborn delta]

dk

im locked now though 🙁

parsed a 4 on averzian and stole the guidon from a dk main

my job is done

[sullen dove]

w

let those babies suffer

[unborn delta]

i posted my log to acherus for review and they said i did everything perfectly I just got unlucky

[sullen dove]

waaaah daddy blizzard you nerfed us from being the top class before the raid

ok my sweet summer child u can be the top again

[smoky vale]

w

happy for you

[scarlet swift]

Not if I’m trash

[smoky vale]

is laval ready to crank tomorrow

[sullen dove]

nah soredish still missing a helmet

so piss ilvl

[smoky vale]

also we gotta stop with the red alts

[sullen dove]

also idk group full of m+ preds probably not gonna do so hot

[smoky vale]

we can do those when i get home from family

yeah im gonna help them

[sullen dove]

world war 3 in that discord

[smoky vale]

oh yeah...

i was not apart of that

apparently someones been doxxed over that stuff

[sullen dove]

yea def normal individuals

[icy whale]

lets gooo

rolled 1, 6 and 9

[rare garnet]

does the northern sky thing have something for tracking if brez is up another light weight solution that ya'll know of that isn't MRT?

[wispy slate]

do i just use the raid build for all of the fights in heroic? the st one?

[winter shoal]

I'd use the multi-target slayer build for heroic

Except on dragons and paladins

[wispy slate]

so for crown?

i've been struggling with builds all season

[undone flower]

On crown you can choose either thane which does more p1 dmg or slayer which does more boss dmg in p3, given you know how to play both equally

[wispy slate]

would it be beneficial for all fights to just stick to thane? i struggled to play thane at start and would maybe be lost at slayer i've played it maybe 4-5 fights so far

[brittle crow]

thane is fine

difference is minimal

[wispy slate]

i'm just looking to improve my single digit parses

[undone flower]

You have the answer in your heart, we can’t help you to make final choice

[sharp storm]

so do we go arms now? how doesnt that nerf kind of affect fury badly? or stick with slayer?

[undone flower]

And single digit parse in heroic is not bc of your hero talent

[wispy slate]

yeah idk i think im just done with warr this tier thanks for the input folks

[undone flower]

You are free to search for your spec don’t feel bad if it’s not warrior

Happens

If someone shame you here if you ask which other class you should look, don’t listen, they are dogshit at wow

[rotund ginkgo]

me when im shot

[sharp storm]

What about those nerfs aren’t they significant ?

[rotund ginkgo]

they will hurt fury in m+, yes

[sharp storm]

So will it be bad ? Or just switch to slayer

Or arms

[rotund ginkgo]

we dont know yet 😄

[wispy slate]

idk been playing warrior since wotlk

just got a 10 on heroic dreamrift but still just feel like its clunkier

[undone flower]

Was it already problematic in TWW?

[stable frost]

gotta love a 4 parse on mythic dargons because other people were the designated padders aww ye

[undone flower]

And playing something since boomer era doesn’t mean much, classes/game changed

[compact knot]

nobody was stance dancing or hs queing in original wrath anyways

[undone flower]

Or specs were not clearly defined

But it’s just to say, maybe try another class

[unborn delta]

just be glad u not being sit 🙁

[compact knot]

got told to gear my dk the moment liquid showed a 2nd dps dk

xdd

grip is NOT a raid buff tho

[unborn delta]

im gearing my dk for that purpose but we hasve 3 dks so i think im just gonna be in the voyeur chair

[undone flower]

Echo had 3 udk at some point on lura

[unborn delta]

also helps that its st is gooder than warrior

my dk sims 107k somehow

when i play it i only do like 90 though 😔

[undone flower]

Im still searching what is my second class

Im trying out boomie

[compact knot]

spriest owns

[stable frost]

au contraire, I am sitting for vanguards now and am quite happy with this fact

[undone flower]

If I had to play a dot spec it’s ass rogue but rogue in my toolbelt would not be very useful in raid imo

I don’t look for a second class to tuning dodge warrior if happens to be bad, I’m looking for dmg profile I can’t do as war

[bold raven]

Turns out spamming thunderclap is not THAT bad (lmao)

Thunderclap highest dmg log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2wF3kNHVR1Y8qmJW?fight=23&type=damage-done

Rampage highest dmg log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pkM4mz6PgQRWxZnL?fight=116&type=damage-done

[random shadow]

im starting to think the glvoes from seat doesnt exist

[covert blaze]

@sullen dove @smoky vale when are you carrying my dh through 10s

[slim coral]

Heroic L'ura down Ez

[winter shoal]

Why not rank 1?

[slim coral]

[chilly zodiac]

is the slayer raid build better for single target?

[winter shoal]

Slightly, yes

like 3ish %

[chilly zodiac]

oh so not really noticeable

so fury st is just trash in general

[slim coral]

the issue with slayer is getting bladestorm to line up

[smoky vale]

when i get home

[slim coral]

I didn’t really line up my of with all the ad sets

[smoky vale]

what addsets

[slim coral]

If I was really trying for a parse I’d have to find that sweet spot

[slim coral]

The mini crystal ads

[smoky vale]

do you mean the things that just exploded in 2s on normal

[feral ivy]

AA why are ppl doing wind first on the bird boss but back in DF we did fire first

[slim coral]

Yeah but on heroic they live a little longer

[slim coral]

It’s better

[smoky vale]

better to push boss faster and easier on healer

[feral ivy]

ah yall lusting after throwing in wind or after fire?

[smoky vale]

im not sure

i havent done aa on a real key level yet

[feral ivy]

someone asked me and i never controlled lust so thought yall would know lol

[sullen dove]

yo this warglaive looks crazy

[feral ivy]

looks like a bow

very nice

[slim coral]

It’s L’ura

[sullen dove]

no shit

[slim coral]

Hey man sometimes people miss the obvious

The amount of people who don’t know why Xal went under the dark well is just an example

[sullen dove]

you some like prophet or something

no one even know where she went she just kinda dipped