fury

[fiery tide]

6*

[burnt oxide]

Tbh, imo understanding interactions helps alot to memorize your priority

Even forgoing bb sometimes for more rampage can be better if it helps you to reduce cooldowns for certain phases, fights or priority targets

[dry hawk]

Is there a good boss to pick to show fuck ups

[floral wasp]

I only fuck up the 2nd boss because I keep strifing left and right and I fucking die off the platform

[smoky nacelle]

facts...our 4piece needs more rampage for the OF procs

[slow gyro]

I Tested my slayer and my Mountain thane Build and I do more Single Target dmg with Mountain Thane. Am I just not pressing the Right Buttons when I’m slayer?

[floral wasp]

are you on the target dummy or were you testing in raid?

[slow gyro]

Target dummy

[burnt oxide]

Prio is a bit different, especially on opener

[slow gyro]

I started to press bb whenever it’s up on slayer, even when I’m capping Rage, i guess I have to stop doing that

[dry hawk]

I'm rampaging when the button is available

But I guess I need to add a few bbs in there

[slow gyro]

It kinda sucks tbh that the talent tree has so much emphasis on Raging Blow

But it just feels so bad to press the button

It’s like hitting with a noodle

[burnt oxide]

It is your worst button

[rotund ginkgo]

pretty sure u want to press anything but RB

[smoky nacelle]

that part of our tree was relevant in TWW s3..devs got lazy

[sudden zinc]

So, are we jumping ship to arms in pretty much every content now right?

[rotund ginkgo]

@sudden zinc probs after 12.0.5

u can still furyi n raid

[slow gyro]

Idk, I thought fury is doing quite well in m+, my numbers are really good as a mountain thane
But my single target dmg blows in raid compared to other classes/specs

[sudden zinc]

Wouldn't arms profile damage be better in ST too after the changes?

[smoky nacelle]

won't know till after the changes tbf

[echo rapids]

If they kill reap in ST without any buffs it might be 😂

[sudden zinc]

That was insane

I mean i get they might want to give arms playtime since it feels like we've been playing Fury/thane for ages

But still feels so random

[rotund ginkgo]

holy shit

inside you there are two wolves

[rotund ginkgo]

idk

[rotund ginkgo]

u asked if u jump ship, u can still fury

[burnt oxide]

Jumping ships for theoretical few % is kinda

[smoky nacelle]

its blasphemy

[burnt oxide]

Dont play the spec you already learned to play decent, play that one that can perform better, if it is played by someone else

(does not apply to everyone)

[fallen ginkgo]

just play whatever is fun

[slow gyro]

I will never change to arms, spec feels so boring to play

I enjoy the piano playstyle

[burnt oxide]

Pretty much

[smoky nacelle]

i still live in a time when arms was only for pvp

[slow gyro]

Maybe if they rework the spec into smth fun and engaging and give it a big boom button like papa has it

*paladin

[bitter palm]

both are goats

type shi

[burnt oxide]

So like 12 years ago

[bitter palm]

back to brown

gg

[fallen ginkgo]

arms has demolish no?

[smoky nacelle]

more or less

[fallen ginkgo]

its a prety good boom button

[burnt oxide]

Yes

[slow gyro]

Barely any visuals though 😔

[smoky nacelle]

why swing one sword when i can swing 2..

[burnt oxide]

You can swing with more force using 2 hands for one weapon

[vague stump]

nerf arms again pls blizzard

[slow gyro]

Kenpachi style

[oblique thistle]

Blow up

[vague stump]

we aint playing vanilla we either need to buff fury or nerf arms

[fallen ginkgo]

im curious how slayer will be with new reap changes

[lofty seal]

12.05 seems like an overall nerf to both fury specs

[fallen ginkgo]

kinda ye

[lofty seal]

i hope the math people can help blizzard see how dumb they are

[fading sky]

I mean

[fallen ginkgo]

but im glad thane is getting shot more than slayer since i dont play thane

[fading sky]

Slayer is fine

If we get st compensation

Same with thane

[smoky nacelle]

I seriously think the people who make our changes are people who were destroyed by warriors in dps or pvp when they were younger

[fading sky]

Its good changes

[lofty seal]

this

[lofty seal]

how much do you think we would need to offset liek a 40% dmg nerf on TC

[rare garnet]

About tree fiddy

[smoky nacelle]

what if this is Blizz's way to combat their sense of toxic masculinity in the game...

nerfing warriors and making them feel inadequate seems like a metaphor for RL

[lofty seal]

im already inadequate IRL thats why i need a warrior ingame

[smoky nacelle]

indubitable

[fading sky]

I mean just mean we clap every 4 gcds

[echo rapids]

Doesn’t really make sense given how much love DK gets

[lofty seal]

yea but they didnt just nerf the CD they nerfed the damage too

[smoky nacelle]

true true

I shouldn't have taken that last rip

[echo rapids]

Warriors turned into a fairly generic class without any major hero npc’s anymore

[gleaming juniper]

[echo rapids]

Class fantasy seems to be a hook for blizz to be invested in the class: DK, mage, etc

[rare garnet]

I mean. It’s a warrior. That’s the definition of generic fantasy.

[wicked scarab]

[smoky nacelle]

they see us as simps probably

[echo rapids]

I mean at least thane has some visuals and theme

[smoky nacelle]

visually warriors are boring af

[calm swallow]

Incorrect

[smoky nacelle]

when they introduced lightning and all that...my mind was blown

[floral wasp]

my driver crashes and I had to reset WoW, and when I reopened it it reseted my keybinds I fucking hate blizzard

[south kayak]

My favorite

[brittle crow]

blame ur drivers not blizz

[burnt oxide]

Keybinds and addon settings always reset when the client gets shut down in any way before exiting it properly

[floral wasp]

I blame both

[south kayak]

I blame you

[brittle crow]

no way

[floral wasp]

I SPIT ON YOU

[burnt oxide]

Thats why i always do a logout after bigger changes

[brittle crow]

i never close this game properly

[rare garnet]

To be fair most magic seems borderline useless too until blizzard needs an NPC to ex machina a situation then we never see that kinda strength again

[brittle crow]

u say that as if every town isn't held together by mages

[echo rapids]

Mage is the hero class of WoW

[fair talon]

hai

guys

how does

plume trinket work

?

Which one is more better for fury

[coarse nest]

You equip it and then your damage goes up

[fair talon]

Radiant or umral

should i use it every 5 min in fight or never us rit?

which one to keep?

Umbral plumb or Radiant plumb?

i dont undersand how it work

anyone knows?

[fiery tide]

you dont use it

its just a passive

[fair talon]

ok so radiant better right?

[drifting token]

It's just a passive secondary stat thing dude

[fair talon]

cuz mastery>critical

[fiery tide]

if you use it, it transforms into the other one

[fair talon]

have we had such trinket in the past that transforms?

i kinda remember similar thing

[fiery tide]

we had a weapon

[desert minnow]

What is haste breakpoint for fury?

[fair talon]

which one?

[fiery tide]

also asking which one is better, its hard to say better to sim it

tww s2 one armed bandit weapon

[drifting token]

no such thing as breakpoints, sim yourself

[smoky nacelle]

and of course sim it my dood

[fair talon]

this is wrong critical strike is trash stat

and also puzzle box is trash on use trinket

[drifting token]

again that's not objectively always true

[fair talon]

ok will sim thanks

[smoky nacelle]

this guy

[desert minnow]

What is the sim most peeps use nowadays?

[smoky nacelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot

[fair talon]

u have to sub and pay little money tho

[winter shoal]

No you don't

[fair talon]

free version sucks

u cannot even pick all dungeons on free version

on droptimizer

[drifting token]

free version gives you all the info you need for gear choices and comparisons

[fair talon]

no

[smoky nacelle]

who pissed in your cheerios this morning bruh

[fair talon]

feee version droptimizer is useless

[upper vapor]

does this trinket still work in raid and m+ ?

[fair talon]

it is not morning u amerikan

[modest wave]

brother out here screenshotting in combat

[fair talon]

Do u find droptimizer free version useful?

[drifting token]

Me and several thousand other poeple have been using free version for years to get that info perfectly fine so it sounds like you don't know wtf you're doing

[fair talon]

it is trash

[dry hawk]

You just pick a dungeon you want to go do

[upper vapor]

they doing trash

[fiery tide]

you can literally just sim evrey dungeon by itself

[fair talon]

lmao that is wrong thing

[upper vapor]

im just shocked my dps is worse

[fair talon]

u need info from all out of dungeons which one is the best to farm

or from all S1 raids

free version cannot do that

also sub is cheap

[winter shoal]

Yes it does, just make sure you use the console thing to activate the passives

[mental rune]

Just sim them all in different tabs

[fair talon]

takes very much longer

[upper vapor]

ye i did i have only 3 so far, maybe this is why its not really good atm

[winter shoal]

You want the main one and then the 3 next nodes

each of the protocols

[warm crag]

you are yellow

[drifting token]

you dont need to pick every dungeon just look up the name of the item on wowhead and type the name of the specific item in for comparison

[mental rune]

Not really, you can send them all at the same time, unless you just mean because you have to wait in queue

[winter shoal]

Can you say this in big 2026?

[fair talon]

aa thats actually smartish if it works but still it does not compare all of them itself u still have to manually compare numbers

[upper vapor]

ah i see tyvm

[stiff maple]

I used free raidbots for years. Works fine

[warm crag]

idk i still call us brown men i think we'll be fine

[fair talon]

it SUCKS compared to PREMIUM

[winter shoal]

Buddy is just rage baiting I think

[warm crag]

ye im surprised hes not banned yet

[modest wave]

cant afford the like $4 a month you shouldnt be playing wow

[winter shoal]

It's $3 innit

But also kind of a bad take idk

[fair talon]

im telling truth but these edgies do not agree for no reason

[winter shoal]

By far the cheapest subscription I have, but also $3 matters a lot more to some people than others

[mental rune]

I mean sure, but that doesn't take long

[fiery tide]

complaining about something when its free, thats just dumb

[drifting token]

i mean coming from the person who couldn't read or get how an average passive trinket worked it checks out

[winter shoal]

You are being rage baited Joe

Protect your mind

[smoky nacelle]

yeah i wouldn't waste too much time with this one boys

[warm crag]

joe dn

[winter shoal]

Joe and Candace

[warm crag]

whos and

[winter shoal]

and deez

[drifting token]

https://tenor.com/view/pulling-hair-out-crazy-chris-farley-gif-4965243616997303002

[stiff maple]

I mean its less time efficient of course but you can get all of the info you need on what's an upgrade for your character. You were acting like you can't

[smoky nacelle]

some people cannot be helped

[stiff maple]

Yea it is probably ragebait

[fair talon]

reported this comment toxic asf

[warm crag]

reported to whom

[smoky nacelle]

let em cook

[warm crag]

you can dm @xan

[rare garnet]

Just put gear on with ilevel and stats that look neat compared to the stats on the guide. Use listed gems and enchants. You’re gonna be 99% right and it’ll be okay.

[rotund ginkgo]

this overall timed a mc16

btw

[rare garnet]

People forget that the reason there are grey parses is because they killed the boss.

[warm crag]

molten core 16

[burnt oxide]

I hate rag on that keystone level

[rotund ginkgo]

tank died 1st pull with bl (i die ofc with all cds)
we continue
he plays pack by pack/small pulls
after 1st boss he dies on bl pull (i die ofc with all cds) - he gets resd, i have to walk
we continue
he plays bound defenders ONE BY ONE
we absolutely demolish 2nd boss
we reach last boss area
he pulls 2 extra bound defenders ALONE again

[smoky nacelle]

you can get gray parses by just using impending victory often in a fight just to stay alive and doing the mechs

[rotund ginkgo]

as in, we kill 1, we pull another 1

[rotund ginkgo]

huh

[rotund ginkgo]

:-(?

[warm crag]

pressing IV on cd will not result in a grey parse lol

[rare garnet]

Technically a 0 is a grey

[burnt oxide]

Boss being dead = best parse

[smoky nacelle]

well i'm dumb i assumed it did since its not optimal and lowers dps

[rotund ginkgo]

why xsage flame me

[rotund ginkgo]

hes saying that for u to get a grey parse

u have to objectively play the class wrong

[warm crag]

you're not gonna end up in the bottom 10th percentile because you waste a gcd every 25 seconds

[rotund ginkgo]

pressing IV on gcd but playing the rest fine wont give u a grey parse

grey parse = u genuinely are just not doing anything/something went horribly wrong

[burnt oxide]

I did not

You said mc16

Someone else said molten core

Rag is in molten core

I did joke

[rare garnet]

Sometimes you’re just doing things wrong and nothing went wrong doesn’t mean you did nothing and ended grey.

Doesn’t mean you’re not doing anything

#GreyParsesMatter

[burnt oxide]

I loved my mop greyparse first week. 0 parse, but there were only 2 ppl on that spec at that point. So 0 parse and rank 2

[marble pilot]

Top 2 gz

[echo rapids]

2nd overall parse, lead with that

[rare garnet]

I mean there is an Imperator mythic kill with a slayer doing 69k with 65 APM and no deaths and a 2 parse at 269 ilevel. He is obviously playing wrong but you can’t say he isn’t trying.

[spare steppe]

and he contributed

[regal aurora]

Is it possible to get 5 cleaved abilities from 4 charges of whirlwind, if rampage is used with only one charge remaining, and then immediately casting a bloodthirst, causing both to cleave?

[odd crater]

Guild gunna do March today, bosses ez or hard?

[rare garnet]

Wall

[fiery tide]

expect misery

[drifting token]

i think that used to be a bug like an expansion or two ago but has since been fixed

[warm crag]

ive not heard of a bug like that but you can check a log

[rare garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/tall-building-skyscaper-viralhog-gif-14583953

[echo rapids]

Honestly kind of impressive. That’s surely managing to never sync up bladestorm with adds

[odd crater]

What’s the addon for WW charges meter? I’ve just been counting with my fingers

[rotund ginkgo]

?

"doing things wrong" implies ur doing something wrong

[burnt oxide]

Someone actually tried to use my parses to flame me in world channel

[rotund ginkgo]

or it doesnt even imply it

straigth up ur just doing sth wrong

[rare garnet]

I was curious

[echo rapids]

Feels like a lot of raging blows?

[burnt oxide]

Almost as much as bt feels wrong

[echo rapids]

Maybe not

[rare garnet]

Maybe top slayer log not too far off TBH but does have like 11 more APM. So, could be a bunch of things.

[echo rapids]

BB gets it own category

[rare garnet]

I’m assuming really bad pad for sure though

[echo rapids]

Odyns fury use looks low, top slayer parse has 60 casts

Maybe no 4 piece?

14 charges seems kinda wild

[rare garnet]

But the point being. Bad parses don’t mean just not trying. No doubt this guy was trying. Just doing it wrong.

[burnt oxide]

Bad parses are a way to improve oneself

By reviewing it

Some of my guildmates use obs to record every raid to improve

[copper parcel]

Storm Surge causes Avatar to increase the damage of Thunder Clap by 10% (was 50%)

what they think or what are they following when they are making these type of decision... like wtf man T.T

[fiery tide]

wouldnt be surprised if they just took a quick look at this

[rare garnet]

An they’ll look at heroic 50th percentile for sure

[spare steppe]

And where’s the DH nerfs then

[river nimbus]

new spec. only buffs for it.

[unborn delta]

My myth parses are all like 67

I’m just coping that only good players are killing the bosses rn and when the scrubs start getting parses in I will get comparatively better

[plush cypress]

Hey guys, just did a m+10 key with 230 ilvl and i was wondering if my damage is low considering i dont have set pieces and only 230 ilvl.I ended with 60k overall in algethar

Does the abillity graph look any good?

[smoky nacelle]

a 10 at 230? wow

[vague stump]

in pure single thane are we prio rb over tc?

[steel shard]

how tf are you only 230

at this point

[vague stump]

looking at some logs people pressing rb alot more than me

[junior oyster]

alt or maybe he didnt start day 1 lol, not that wild

[plush cypress]

I started on monday

I did it with my friends

[warm crag]

st rotation is outlined on wowhead for thane

[smoky nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

[plush cypress]

Thats why i was wondering, i know the damage is low but if i got my rotation right considering the ability damage graph

[vague stump]

yeah

ta

pressing clap too much it seems

thanks!

[sullen dove]

any idea why xalatath affix just bugged for no reason

[brittle crow]

i thought i was delulu

is it just disappearing for everyone

[plush cypress]

Happened to me too

[sullen dove]

it was fine on tuesday

[plush cypress]

Both keys i ve done

[sullen dove]

but today and yesterday yea

[smoky vale]

yo we cwanking after i walk dog or

[tardy lark]

Huh

[plush cypress]

@sullen dove can you help me with my question please?

[sullen dove]

whatszat

[plush cypress]

.

[smoky vale]

@sullen dove can you help me with my question please?

[sullen dove]

yea the 230 ilvl def massive part of dmg being low

breakdown looks fine i thjink

[plush cypress]

I ended with 60k, does the item set and like 270 ilvl make that much of difference to the point i can hit at least 100?

[sullen dove]

270 makes the difference

[stiff maple]

Blizzard has the funniest bugs man wdym the affix is just despawning

[sullen dove]

set not so much

[smoky vale]

hello

answer pls

[sullen dove]

im in a key

[smoky vale]

how long

[smoky nacelle]

Y'all needy

[sullen dove]

on god

idk 15m prolly

[smoky vale]

this mf being needy at 2 am

blow up

[sullen dove]

pause

[sullen dove]

rly missin the 30% dmg buff

[stiff maple]

I do my keys with a mw and its really funny hearing them call out every talent that randomly gets disabled

[vague stump]

any nelf gamers can we meld the final boss skyreach lens flare thing if so when do we do it as I meld it but doesnt seem to work?

[smoky vale]

you have to meld before it moves i think

[valid wedge]

I wanted to know if my average DPS is good for a Fury Warrior at ilvl 266, because in Mythic +10 dungeons I’m often the lowest DPS with around 20–25%…

[coarse nest]

Bain de sang

[valid wedge]

its not good ?

[smoky vale]

press thunderclap more

[valid wedge]

It was on a 30-second rotation, but I'll do it again

[cobalt yacht]

Thank you

[novel lance]

noob question...... im looking at warcraft logs and the top 9 fury wars are playing thane. my guild questioned why i was playing thane and said i should be playing slayer and follow the specs according to wowhead. which should i do? follow the pros on logs or follow what wowhead says to do?

[copper parcel]

leave the guild

[novel lance]

LOL

[silver shell]

Why would they demand slayer when they know nothing about warrior... dummies

[burnt oxide]

Yeah someone deciding for you without any knowledge is kinda

[novel lance]

i was always told to follow logs and do what they do as far as spec and gear

[burnt oxide]

They saw them in tww s3 and use that info for now

Well then follow the logs, which is thane

For 99% of occasions

[echo scarab]

+1 on Thane, you can run Thane in all content and be chilling up to Mythic raids

[little glen]

Can we still only run thane after nerf

[coarse nest]

You can run thane on all mythic bosses too

[burnt oxide]

Gets even better on saladbar

[echo scarab]

probably

[edgy oasis]

Your thunderclap is too low.

[echo scarab]

How to Fury:
😡 👏

[slate light]

Hi gang i have a simming question. I just did a quick sim for my raid spec and see that there is 1 more avatar cast then recklesness? what is the reason for this?

[valid wedge]

but i spam it ...

[echo scarab]

clap is only worth in aoe

not ST

[copper parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/we-will-rock-you-hands-gif-14993183

thane pov

[echo scarab]

theres thunderclap and thunderBLAST

[restive peak]

Also depends on key level/pull size etc

[echo scarab]

Thunder clap is bottom prio in single target, thunder BLAST youll prioritize at 2 stacks

[edgy oasis]

When there are less than 6 targets?

[echo scarab]

in AoE you can clap away

[copper parcel]

but not anymore

soon

[valid wedge]

i can show you a video of my rotation

[echo scarab]

fury is more about priority than rotation

you probably losing a lot of DPS if youre clapping on cd in ST

[edgy oasis]

Im not that bothered.
Im telling you. If you are lowest dps. Its gear or its rotation. You'll see a huge difference if you use thunderclap correctly. And I mean thunderclap.

Correctly being in CD and above 6 targets.

[edgy oasis]

My guess. Its casts might be durations based? Avatar can be extended...my guess.

[valid wedge]

This is on training dummies, so 5 targets. I have decent gear and a crafted weapon.

[edgy oasis]

5 targets = bloodbath prio maybe even execute.

[valid wedge]

17 seconds of Avatar

[sour glacier]

If I'm correct, recklessness duration can be extended during your rotation. The cd doesn't actually set for timers until after the buff has dropped. Therefore due to extended duration of recklessness compared to avatar expiring and instantly resetting timer if would have 1 more cast after the fight. That's my thoughts

[edgy oasis]

Agreed

[slate light]

Thank you guys makes sense.

[valid wedge]

That’s what I’m already doing

[scenic cradle]

Im pretty sure it does start the cooldown regardless how long you extend avatar

[modest condor]

mountain thane has a talent that can proc avatar if it's not already up, that extra "cast" is just the mountain thane proc. The reason it's only 1 is because you have such high avatar uptime already that you're not really spending enough time outside of avatar to get more procs, considering how low the proc chance is.

[wet pendant]

@modest condor hi sorry may i ask- i start to see people playing thane on balroen isnt baloren single target fight ?

[modest condor]

isnt most of the fight 3 targets? or are the small birds not there on heroic

[rotund ginkgo]

any1 knows what battle res tracker yall use?

[fiery tide]

bigwigs

[rotund ginkgo]

ty king

[small tinsel]

Hey all just trying get my head around Logging in order to try improve.

i signed up to a 10 to test it out

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VCNmAqJwt4KRjcZb?type=damage-done&fight=last&modal=fight-selection

And its loged pit of sauron all as 1 encounter is the a button ive pressed to do that how do i log it as individual fights ?

[rotund ginkgo]

pit of sauron is one encounter because its an instance

you click here and you're able to specify which part of it you'd like to see

[sullen dove]

who would ever use something like this

[small tinsel]

amazing thankyou so much
could i check is the a way of seeing parses on each boss ?

[remote pendant]

why is wowhead just blatently handing out misinformation? Also why is icy veins seemingly just ai slop (they start talking about arms abilities midway through the fury guide)?

[sullen dove]

you got uh... references to these claims or

[remote pendant]

wowheads builds are recommending bladestorm in nearly every build, even the "ST" one. Nobody is using it at the top level

[sullen dove]

?

you are if you play slayer

lol what

slayer uses bladestorm mountain thane does not

[winter shoal]

Hi here was my rank 2 salhadaar log with bladestorm https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PQyp1r8gAWxkDBGC?fight=16&type=summary&source=205

not at the top level tho

[fiery tide]

funny that you claim one to be ai slop but not the other one when they are maintained by the same guy

and where are they talking about arms abilites in fury?

if you mean rend, then fury got that too

[sullen dove]

cluegi

left server immediately apparently or

[chilly fractal]

I’m sure he’s fun at parties

[dapper goblet]

you never fought a boss like tyrant velhari and it shows

[sullen dove]

yea im not 45

my fault

[echo rapids]

Top warrior parse on dragons has exactly 73 hits of TC on each dragon 😮

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-13999959577016113506

[sullen dove]

too soon sorry

did fight her on heroic when it was current tho!

[chilly fractal]

Yoooo I remember Tyrant and trying to convince my GM to let me play Fury

[sullen dove]

i think

but was a hunter

[dapper goblet]

you had to legit be like

12

[sullen dove]

yea pmuch

13 maybe

[chilly fractal]

Well HFC was out for like a year

So prolly both

[sullen dove]

also true

big range

[dapper goblet]

best raid ever made

[sullen dove]

aware

[dapper goblet]

played fury and arms that tier

both beast mode

arms trinket made legion arms exist

good times

[chilly fractal]

It’s up there… could enjoy 2 cigarettes while others did HF Assault

[dapper goblet]

yeah that boss after month 6 was pretty bad

no way to skip

[chilly fractal]

Arms tier set that raid was incredible… and bugged

[dapper goblet]

forced to kill it every week

[chilly fractal]

Well bugged at the start

Got fixed after a few weeks

But apply rend… Spam Ms

Peak gameplay

[dapper goblet]

shit was very openis at the start

[winter shoal]

me when I try to start some shit and get laughed at like the clown I am

[chilly fractal]

I bet that dude hasn’t even watched AI Generated Pixar movie trailers

[winter shoal]

What does that even mean

I keep my brain free and clear from AI slop

[chilly fractal]

Hilarious shit

[winter shoal]

Except when people at work send it to me and I'm forced to engage

[small tinsel]

Hey all could i check if when u log a dungeon on logs you can only see your parse for the full dungeon ?

Was hoping i could see it for indivisual bosses

[dapper goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0SjQZCB5iU

before he fell down the rabbit hole

old asmon

🥀

[winter shoal]

Not for M+ dungeons no, only raids are broken out by individual bosses

One M+ dungeon is one "encounter", whereas each raid fight is an encounter

[sullen dove]

but anyway less than 10% of your hp absorb on a 5minute cooldown needed for a boss huh

[small tinsel]

perfect thankyou saves me going mad trying to find something thats not possible

[young swan]

can we get this arms back

why do i have 8 rotational binds

[chilly fractal]

Fr though… I want that tier set back

[south kayak]

did you just ask for wod arms back

insane take

[chilly fractal]

My all time favorite tier set

[winter shoal]

opened this while logged in, rip my yt algorithm

[young swan]

i asked for hfc arms back

[south kayak]

nah, even hfc arms is trash imo

[dapper goblet]

back in wod warrior had this spell called shield barrier

[chilly fractal]

lol no

[dapper goblet]

and it was so donkey shit poop

[young swan]

perfect number of buttons

[dapper goblet]

but good on that boss

[south kayak]

isn't that basically ignore pain

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[dapper goblet]

yes but far worse

[desert dirge]

Gladiator spec pls

[dapper goblet]

lets ban that guy

[honest tapir]

i was today years old when i found out rend is super powerful and highest priority(beside odyns and bladestorm) for aoe at 8+ . does more damage than odyns at 13-16 mobs. the initial damage isnt capped as far as i can tell, and the bleed is not capped either

[sullen dove]

ya

[honest tapir]

if the mobs live through the bleed of course

[fickle vector]

Question, how many stacks of berserk should I stack after recklessness before going into bloodbath/execute ect

[dapper goblet]

[winter shoal]

You never play around a certain number of berserk stacks

just play your priority as you would normally

[fickle vector]

I feel like I’m not utilizing the berserk buff correctly

[chilly fractal]

Now we need Rend ticks to reset Odyn’s Fury

[smoky wraith]

yo bracer cost 2 sparks or 1 ?

[winter shoal]

2

[wheat lantern]

2

[chilly fractal]

2

[smoky wraith]

so if i crafted a weapon last weak with 4 i cant get them this week right ?

[wheat lantern]

you can

[scenic escarp]

I'm actually supposed to press rend?

[chilly fractal]

You can

[smoky wraith]

it says for me 5/5 seasonal

[chilly fractal]

It’s your $15 buddy

[smoky wraith]

maybe im missing somthn

[chilly fractal]

Campaign gets you an extra 1 where you get that quest to do each zone event or whatever

[smoky wraith]

ahhh yes

[undone flower]

Lorthemar gives the quest

[smoky wraith]

oh okay well ill look into that then thx guys

[echo rapids]

Damn have I been under casting TC during avatar? Comparing my heroic paladin log vs a top log, he cast 62 thunderclaps and I did 30…

[rare garnet]

[desert dirge]

We have a ranged interrupt now too. Shits crazy

[winter shoal]

in aoe, TC during ava is above a raw BT

[haughty carbon]

hello, i know the ptr change it's not definitive, but fury is doomed ?

[winter shoal]

you can probably sim that in different target counts though to see if it applies in 2t/3t

[summer quail]

probably. it's okay tho soon you won't press tc except for ww stacks

[echo rapids]

Is 3 targets really enough to just ramp clap ramp clap?

[winter shoal]

You wouldn't ramp tc ramp tc at 3, no

APL only does that on 7+

[echo rapids]

Even during avatar?

[winter shoal]

ramp tc ramp tc line is 120

I'm referring to line 124

I'm at work rn but I can check whether that's worth on 2/3t later

[echo rapids]

Hmm

[river willow]

hope they revert 0.5 clap dmg nerfs that seems like overkill on top of cdr if they want us to not spam tc in aoe

[quiet geyser]

At 2/3t you definitely 100% throw in BT still

It does more raw damage anyways, but also more TB procs to extend the ava

[winter shoal]

2/3/5t

So bt worth on 2t, ava tc better on 3+

[spare helm]

What specs pref for Beloran and Midnight falls ?

[winter shoal]

thane multitarget build is a safe default

if adds are dying very quickly, slayer is probably a better choice

[spare helm]

for both ?

[winter shoal]

but only a couple % difference

[spare helm]

adds die super quick for us

[winter shoal]

For any fight

[winter shoal]

Probably slayer angle then

[spare helm]

than i keep slayer for both of em

on crown i did much better with thane

[winter shoal]

if your goal is to do a lot of damage, sure thane is good for crown

most of that damage is irrelevant though

[spare helm]

even after p1

felt much better

[winter shoal]

killing small adds in p1 is anywhere from meaningless to actively detrimental, and p2 adds are generally bottlenecked by marks rather than actual dps on them

[lean osprey]

getting kicked for not being arms is crazy

[coarse nest]

Be an ethical boss damager

[desert dirge]

Arms boss dps and slayer dps aint that different frfr

[quiet geyser]

Theme of this raid yet fury nerfs cuz doing tank boss damage makes us good

[winter shoal]

I mean there are plenty of times in this raid where add damage is relevant, just not on normal/heroic

[quiet geyser]

Very arguable in my opinion. Take dragons for example, like ya the add dam is important i guess.. but let's be real them dying 0.3 seconds later is not make or break

[hushed coyote]

need sims for raid pls any?

[quiet geyser]

Furys add dam on salhadaar also falls into that questionable usefullness

[winter shoal]

What do you mean by this

[hushed coyote]

biss equipment

[winter shoal]

There is a bis list here https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear

[ancient hearth]

what should i choose?

[winter shoal]

You're probably better off running a droptimizer or top gear sim for yourself though

[winter shoal]

Sim top gear but probably puzzlebox

[tepid beacon]

hey all, had a quick q - looking to get a hero helm (right now 6/6 champion) but for some reason after simming using droptimizer it didn't show any suggestions for helms, only other gear, why is that? hasn't suggested any hero helms

[winter shoal]

Can you link the sim

[tepid beacon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7zbfGArb1JmfX6hXWdcm9G

oh wait its 'night enders tusks' derp

the only thing is it doesn't tell you which helm you need to get before you convert with the catalyst, I'm guessing doesn't really matter as long as its a hero helm, as it's going to be converted anyway?

[inland sparrow]

Will our rotation change with the upcoming nerfs?

[quiet geyser]

For thane?

[inland sparrow]

yeah for mt

[quiet geyser]

Just won't spam TC every 2nd global

[inland sparrow]

Was doing raids and m+ earlier, not doing too bad just yet, but I do see arms popping off

haha hopefully they wont gut fury completely

[quiet geyser]

Tbh if it goes live as is, fury is pretty much a dead spec

[inland sparrow]

rip

is it not confirmed yet?

is there hope

[quiet geyser]

I mean its still a month+ away

[inland sparrow]

Oh it is thought it was gonna be this coming reset

Well then, i'll enjoy it til it lasts

[quiet geyser]

Na its the .5 changes. So ya still hope, just dont hold your breath

[inland sparrow]

yeah

thanks mate

I'll try slayer soon, see if it's any better than thane for some runs

[pulsar sundial]

hi warriors , trying to craft my weapon what embellishmenet should i buy and what missive ?

[quartz knot]

Arcanoweave, feverflare missive

Arcane weave not on weapon, but hunt

[pulsar sundial]

what do you mean not on weapon ?

[dry hawk]

On weapon? Hunt

[woven valley]

I’m really hoping they do some single target buffs for slayer and move some of our multi damage on thane to thunderblast instead of clap

But blizz loves fucking us over

[pulsar sundial]

so i buy darkmoon sigil : hunt and missive of feverflare ?

[smoky nacelle]

Yes

[pulsar sundial]

ty so much

[formal jacinth]

Is there ever a reason I should NOT cast avatar/recklessness at the same time? Should I just macro those and call it?

[coarse nest]

Macro

[fringe cove]

hi all , i search an addon who appear a little text ibn middle of screen with the text " heroic leap ready in : timer " if someone knows

[echo rapids]

I have that, got it from critcake. I’ll look to see what it is when I get home

[summer quail]

itruliaqol

[fluid fog]

Yes always together.

[frank harbor]

so basically we only play thane now right ? :/

[fluid fog]

Depends on the fight; each boss has it's own spec. Some are Mt. Thane, some are Slayer.

[desert dirge]

What's the name of the talent that gives us multiple bloodthirsts back to back?

[winter shoal]

burst of power

[copper parcel]

Pretty much all thane except salahuddin

[woven valley]

Sorry that gif is for shadow priests only

[winter shoal]

You can play whatever you want, both specs have their strengths. Slayer is slightly higher pure st and higher aoe burst, thane is higher sustained aoe

[frank harbor]

so under mm raid, u can just slayer the raid boss right ? the adds are always nearly one shooted u don't really do aoe damage

exept on paladin boss

[winter shoal]

I'd play thane on dragons too but yeah

[desert dirge]

Do you recommend tracking this?

[frank harbor]

but u can't cleave the drake no ?

or maybe just a little in the p3

[winter shoal]

Nope, doesn't affect your rotation any differently than just having BT off cd normally would be

[winter shoal]

Yeah you can in p3 and the pure single target difference is only a few % anyways

Slayer is probably also fine if you want to play that though

[desert dirge]

Ty wardaddy

[winged hill]

Guys, can anyone tell me whats the optimal % of haste?

im at 27% but idk if thats low or high

[plush cypress]

So fury nerf is going to be a big hit for dps?

[winter shoal]

However much raidbots top gear sim tells you with the items you have available to you

[winter shoal]

If the changes go live as they are right now, it'll be a moderate dps nerf. There will likely be further changes in weeks to come, though

[fringe cove]

thanks !

[plush cypress]

Instead of nerfing the dps maybe they should only do the cooldown change

Would love to not spam like a crazy during reck

[indigo arch]

Make the damage not come from tclap spam if they don't like it so much

Don't randomly nerf a middle of the pack spec

Even if they do it arms might crank soon so fk it

[neat siren]

I was hoping the 12.0.5ptr is a apríl fools

[plush cypress]

Arms always crack with endgame gear, right?

[indigo arch]

Yea early april fools

[trim moon]

Broceefus you rockin no tier? Dayum son

[coarse nest]

Arms cranks right now

Aware

[winter shoal]

I have 4pc

[winter shoal]

@modest condor s word not mentioned but implied

[plush cypress]

Always when i come back to wow, i need to respec to arms cause fury gets nerfed 😂

[echo rapids]

I’ve seen logs with the same number of TC hits on both drakes

[winter shoal]

That's outdated, if you click on the armory link it'll show my current gear. I'm like 273 or 274 with 4pc now

[echo rapids]

Maybe TC Is just long enough to reach

[winter shoal]

on hc or mythic?

on mythic you can cleave them the whole fight

[echo rapids]

I think i was looking at heroic

But I’ll double check

[trim moon]

Lol all good. I shit myself and was like "I am doing this allll wrong!"

[winter shoal]

I mean I also 99d most fights with the gear shown on WCL last week

But I raid on tuesdays so early logs are basically just a gear and kill time check

[spare steppe]

How can you do this in mythic but not heroic?

[winter shoal]

On hc one of them is flying in p1/p2 and both are on the ground in p3. In mythic they're both on the ground the whole time (outside of intermission)

[warm crag]

yellow

[echo rapids]

Ah you are right my mistake

[winter shoal]

You raid with xeph right?

can you ask him to bake spell reflect stuff into the targetedspells addon

I don't think its cd can ever be reduced so you should be able to know when it's up based on the cast success events

[modest condor]

Chatting honed reflexes reduces the cooldown

[winter shoal]

It won't be able to say whether the spell can be reflected, but it can say whether you're targeted and do/don't have SR available

[winter shoal]

talents aren't secret afaik so that's fine

[modest condor]

crazy

[winter shoal]

As long as it's not getting having its cd dynamically updated via something like AM it should be trackable

[umbral gull]

So with the nerf we switch to slayer ? We gonna loose dps compare to thane Even after slayer buff

[valid pulsar]

What nerfs did i miss something

[junior gale]

Those nerfs aren't till 12.05

[valid pulsar]

Oh he is talking about the 12.0.5 changes

[neat siren]

those nerfs suck ass

[tepid adder]

Has anyone quantified what those nerfs look like on a dungeon run? Percentage wise

[olive wraith]

No

[neat siren]

some warrior main apparently fucked balance team lead wife

[olive wraith]

Since more changes are possible

[warm crag]

maybe

[limber pulsar]

I don’t understand the point of the nerf since we perform terribly in raids

[wicked scarab]

I think it’s less trying to nerf warrior and more changing the way it plays

[olive wraith]

I would believe this if they didn’t nerf the damage part of thane

And just nerfed the cdr

[neat siren]

yeah well reducing dmg increase of an ablity from 50% to 10% aint really about gameplay change

[dry hawk]

Give a reason to hit all the buttons that exist lol

[neat siren]

its just straight spit into the face

[wicked scarab]

Never said it was smart xD

[dry hawk]

The cdr aspect is what fucks with my brain

[granite fog]

Btw I was wondering this patch why do we go for bloodthirst instead of raging blows ?

[echo rapids]

I dont know why they changed it from TWW and made clap hit as hard as blast in aoe

[fluid fog]

Alright here's my generic Fury question #1 in a series I have.

1. Is it better to use the standard Slayer Single/Multi target builds in raid, or the boss-specific builds? B/c I don't understand how WoW has is saying Slayer is best for raids, then it's like - oh jk no actually Thane is best too later on.

[olive wraith]

Cause rb sucks rn

[granite fog]

fair

that triple bloodthirst is so fucking satisfying tho

so is fine

[wicked scarab]

My guess is wanting to reduce variance on TB RNG

[stiff maple]

Go to warcraft logs and see what people are playing

You can play thane on every single fight though.

[dry hawk]

RB is the red headed step kid, you just don't press the button

[umbral gull]

So what now the % to reap of the storm after the patch

[echo rapids]

Yeah but putting that into TC made us too consistent lol

Reap only ever procs in aoe in 12.0.5

[stiff maple]

If you're looking to see how good fury will be in the .5 patch no one knows

[echo rapids]

And it’s like what? 10% of our damage in ST?

[verbal sluice]

so they buff arms to the moon and wanna F Fury

[stiff maple]

There are a lot of changes to come

[olive wraith]

Ye I think having a reliable way to get tb o it side of avatar activation would help a lot

[olive wraith]

6-8

[verbal sluice]

slayer just doesnt feel good in some raid fights

[dry hawk]

I'd rather hit MS and fat execute

[umbral gull]

Im gonna charge into full CD the CEO of blizzard this bastard gonna taste fury rota

[fluid fog]

Sure then why say one is "best"

[stiff maple]

What are you looking at that says that

[silent vault]

Is the Nexus point ring set actually almost 1% dps? seems very high or?

[fluid fog]

The first page of Talent Builds for fury warriors on wowhead

[stiff maple]

There is a theoretical best build for raid single target, which is slayer

[stiff maple]

But there isn't any boss that is pure single target

[fluid fog]

Right, but it also said mutl slayer is best too so that is why I'm like...erm...

[verbal sluice]

if they nerfed our burst like that they should of buffed rend

[dry hawk]

thane is played in raid

[verbal sluice]

40% is crazy

[vagrant osprey]

it usually does like .8% of my damage on a fight so yea pretty much

[bitter palm]

thane is played to pad

[olive wraith]

Can’t or slayer pops off

[dry hawk]

I mean if you need prio damage, do you really ask a war to do that

[stiff maple]

Id imagine this will be updated i guess

[heavy folio]

how tf you get a good long on the first boss?

[umbral gull]

Anyways in high key they play slayer so maybe we have to adapt or just charge blizzard CEO

[verbal sluice]

True but rend feels awful to use while playing slayer

[olive wraith]

It won’t in aoe .5

[dry hawk]

You have to pad adds

[fluid fog]

RIGHT that's why I'm confused 😭

[verbal sluice]

how so

[olive wraith]

Slayer aoe was buffed imo

[olive wraith]

Ww applies rend

[verbal sluice]

ohh wo

wow

[somber mauve]

wait, really?

[verbal sluice]

yep slayers is def gonna be the move

[umbral gull]

U have to keep eyes on your 4 stack of multi for whirlwind while as thane u perma use it so

[olive wraith]

Yes

[bitter palm]

no but also the guide was made before the raid launched

[olive wraith]

This is has always been the case for slayer

[verbal sluice]

we did that for years nothin new

[umbral gull]

Yep but we had heaven

[dry hawk]

Arms has some funnel if it's 2-3 target cleave

[steel shard]

arms would have been great on the bird boss

[olive wraith]

This is just thane preference

[steel shard]

if the spec was actually tuned OK

compared to this clownfiesta

[verbal sluice]

gonna go crazy on vanguard

[echo rapids]

Playing UDK or ret then playing arms is wild

[fluid fog]

Alright I'll just go with Slayer/Mt as specified for boss fights then b/c that makes more sense.

[umbral gull]

I highly pref slayer gameplay but i dont think it’s gonna beat thane damage

[echo rapids]

Pooling rage before windows is not 2026 gameplay

[umbral gull]

( old thane )

[dry hawk]

Welcome to rogue

[undone flower]

i am enlightened

[verbal sluice]

with ww getting rend and 20% more reap chance slayers is gonna dominate

[steel shard]

now show boss damage

[echo rapids]

Rage and energy arnt the same but yeah

[undone flower]

IT IS BOSS DAMAGE

[echo rapids]

As UDK you almost can’t run out of runes and RP

[umbral gull]

Future slayer vs actual thane

[undone flower]

[verbal sluice]

thane now wins

[umbral gull]

Yes

Fuck blizzard

[verbal sluice]

my motto

[plain bough]

ive got a raid finder ancient hunger and a champ puzzle box if i got gaze heroic would it be worth swapping out the puzzle

[sullen dove]

almost certainly one of the two trinkets is replaced immediately yes

would assume the lfr one but who knows

maybe not for st

[plain bough]

yeahh

hate pressing puzzle too

[verbal sluice]

waiting to get gaze then im gonna drop puzzle

[hearty stream]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tDBqxyMcGbFd7n9Q?fight=last&modal=fight-selection can anyone look at either of these 2 m+, and (aside from the 2 deaths in each run LOL) let me know if theres any glaring issues with the damage from each ability? i seem to be falling behind in 16 keys by 20-30k dps so i have to be doing something wrong but i cant seem to figure it out

[bold lichen]

So does the crucible trinket from voidstorm get better based on the research console? or is that just in the voidstorm?

[coarse nest]

Same boat but I took myth puzzi b so I’m probably stuck with it for a while unfortunately

[hallow tundra]

Hey guys, do you know any addon that gives you the enrage as a pretty bar like the old WAs from luxthos?

[opaque falcon]

@hallow tundra I made one of my own you want it?

[inland sparrow]

quick question

for Fury ST builds

How much better is Slayer compared to MT?

[red berry]

idk if it’ll outperform thane after the thane nerf but my gut says it will if nothing changes

[frank dawn]

the reap change shouldn't change overall reap damage much for slayer

and you lose it on single target completely atm

so

[olive wraith]

Ramp being the thing to proc reap is also better

Since you’re probably hitting ramp more than bt

At the start of pulls at least

[frank dawn]

yeah sure, it's gonna be a little better. But also with the current changes it will never proc on single target

where it's currently like 8% or so of your damage

[echo rapids]

Doesn’t slayer already really want to hit ramp

[olive wraith]

I’m talking strictly aoe

[red berry]

yeah losing reap on ST without doing any number tuning is strange

but I’d imagine they probably will, right

[frank dawn]

tuning always comes at the end of a patch cycle (and post launch hotfixes)

[echo rapids]

“Release candidate”

[frank dawn]

but that doesn't mean we shouldn't still be concerned about it

[red berry]

yeah no I’d just have expected them to do something alongside those frank egregious changes

[olive wraith]

Aa buff incoming

[hardy vault]

Will there be polls on Warcraft Logs to remove padding on certain bosses in this tier?

[coarse nest]

Wouldn’t doubt it

[slim coral]

probably

voracius probably will

possibly dragons

[coarse nest]

Dragons is like rash all over again

We kill the adds to easily

So they’ll invalidate them for the wizards

[slim coral]

and first boss is basically unparsable unless you were in first kill first week

[hardy vault]

maybe nexus with mini orbs i think

[coarse nest]

Idk about that one because killing orbs is a big part of the fight

Maybe the small ones

[winter shoal]

I could see 1st boss the small adds (but leaving the big adds in), I think others will be left as-is though since those adds still need to die in the same way the forgeweaver adds did

[formal jacinth]

Probably stupid but...why is this the icon we get for a proc?!

[coarse nest]

Because the proc changes thunderclap into thunderblast which has its own icon and additional functions

[formal jacinth]

just saying, it looks like a question mark lol

[frail bloom]

are you basically asking for "this can be reflected indications"? because thats not possible, otherwise idk what youre referring to

[coarse nest]

Oh I see haha

[winter shoal]

Not checking that the spell can be reflected, but that you're targeted and spell reflect is available. AFAIK knowing whether spell reflect is available should be possible bc the cooldown is fixed and we can listen for the cast success event

Or is it not possible bc the addon doesn't actually know that you're targeted, it's just doing some bullshit alpha curve nonsense

So basically when it displays the icon with the targeted spell, also display some text saying "reflect available" or something

[wet pendant]

hi guys, 2 questions please:

1. is dungeonslice simming on raidbots broken ? does it work correctly ?
2. i noticed puzzlebox went up in simming on bloodmallet idk how ... is puzzlebox heroic better in dungeons and or raid then cruciable ?

[still remnant]

Do I hold puzzle box for reck/avatar?

[modest condor]

yes

[tough ginkgo]

Is it correct that sims are telling me to swap out mastery enchants/gems for haste ones even if that puts me to around 33% mastery?

Wasn't it always the case to try and get like 40/45% for the enrage damage increase?

[modest condor]

there was never a percentage to aim for, if you set up your sim correctly and it's telling you to use haste gems/enchants then that's what's better for you

[frail bloom]

how would you expect this to look? I can think of showing the remaining cd of SR on top of each player-targeting icon and otherwise ... ?

problem largely being multiple spells targeting the player at the same time

[glossy mirage]

how the hell you guys log on boss 1'

?

with 92Kdps

you padding I assume?

[echo rapids]

I mean its adds that have to die

[glossy mirage]

yes but saving cds on them IG

[wicked scarab]

Pretty much, easier on thane. Slayer has Sudden Death RNG for BS

[echo rapids]

Fury doesn’t have a good way to drop it’s aoe for more single target, and our cooldowns are up often

[glossy mirage]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wx6N8AWQj1nXVKaq?fight=last&playermetric=bossdps&type=damage-done despite my rotation being bad

i cannot pad for my life

[next mica]

thats what ur suppoused to do on that boss

[glossy mirage]

xD

[hearty stream]

Pls just if there is any glaring issues no deep dive or anything, also has anyone experienced during lust/reck like a delay in your abilities being hit? Maybe im going to quick but feels like what I press and what is cast is always 1-2 behind

[glossy mirage]

im pressing TB instead of BB like a moron

[echo rapids]

“Padding” on imperator is fairly ethical as it goes

[tiny seal]

i mean if everyones aim is to pad nobody will have a good log

adds die in 1 sec

[next mica]

its like 0% damage increase difference unless ur overcaping rage

[tiny seal]

which isnt optimal but its a dog tier anway to parse imo

[glossy mirage]

ST bb should do more dmg then TB ig

[wicked scarab]

In my case if you got a Ret and Devourer sending hammer and star, you’d really have to beat them to the punch lol

[echo rapids]

TB extends avatar

[next mica]

ur still pressing bb after so it dosent matere

omega low dps increase diff regarding order

[echo rapids]

They are both very good buttons and you won’t shit parse because you hit first one and then the other

[coarse nest]

Goodluck logging after week 1

[glossy mirage]

xD

[echo rapids]

Just gotta convince your other dps to go ST to “speed the fight up so we all parse better”

[earnest tiger]

Your boss only damage is also a blue parse so it’s not just pad

[coarse nest]

The boss only parse is blue because they were trying to add pad

[next mica]

if ur parsing bad n1 reason is gear n2 is you dont use ur cooldowns at the right moments, in first boss case its not padding cause thats just how u play the boss

[glossy mirage]

its bad gameplay 2 100%

[echo rapids]

Task failed successfully

I feel like uptime is always the first place to start

[earnest tiger]

I mean top parses do better than blue for both 🤷‍♂️

[glossy mirage]

had 90's % uptime

[rare garnet]

Right next to APM. Why am I doing 30% less damage than this other warrior in my raid when I am doing 30% as many actions.

[honest trail]

Uptime + numbers of casts is a great start

Then check character stats

[hollow leaf]

we're supposed to be on 2 crafts now if we crafted wep right

[honest trail]

On same ilvl/same fight lenght always

[coarse nest]

Yep

[hollow leaf]

ty

[honest trail]

Weap + wrist/cloak

Most likely

[hollow leaf]

yeye

[honest trail]

Focus on boss dmg 1st

Padding is only for parsing

[chilly rover]

how good are the seat cantrip gloves?

[coarse nest]

About .4% of your dps

[mental jolt]

Am i supposed to be weaving one raging blow into my Cd windows?

or should i just be Thunderclap and blood thirsting back to back

err i mean rampage into BT

[tough ginkgo]

Is there a correct way to set it up? I just open top gear, grab the items/upgrades etc and then the selections for gems and enchants and let it rip.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9Yi6kyzqW2C1tt3UhuJT6n

[fair talon]

how do i add umbral and radiant plume in Raidbots to sim? i have only 1

i think i fugred out

[glossy mirage]

top gear you can add it

[fair talon]

ok i didnt

[fair talon]

how do i add

ahh

thanks

[earnest tiger]

Missing leg enchant, cheap enchants, cheap gems, crit flask (?)

[hollow leaf]

do you mean on aoe?

[mental jolt]

ST

[hollow leaf]

on aoe during avatar your rotation is weaving tc every other gcd

on st bt and bb are your highest prio

you press thunderblast at 2 stacks, otherwise bt or exe if you can

and ramp at 100+ rage

[mental jolt]

cool thanks

any way were gonna be using slayer in dungeons again?
or is MT gonna beat it out cause of trash dps?

[hollow leaf]

well if nothing else changes following the .5 changes fury as a whole will be dead in m+

[crisp nebula]

Good evening, what should I craft for a Fury Warrior? Thx

The ring of loa is good ?

[rigid stirrup]

check the wowhead guide

[mental jolt]

pretty sure its bracers

[hollow leaf]

sim yourself but probably weapon + cloak/bracer with arcanoweave lining

[hasty grail]

droptimizer doesn't seem to be able to take embellishments into account, any help with that?

[hollow leaf]

top gear

[frail bloom]

please dm me about this when youre back again (see above response too 🙂 )

[hollow leaf]

hi xeph

[crisp nebula]

OK ty i will do that

[hasty grail]

ty

[normal shuttle]

anyone know of a way to get a sound effect for <100 rage?

i used to have this with weakauras

[random shadow]

Idk about a sound. But you can track eith like sensai tracker or like better cdm. Can make the rage bad change colors too

[hot parrot]

Any tips for more egg damage on beloren hc cheese tact?

[normal shuttle]

interesting, i use sensei tacker, any guides on how to change the color?

[mental jolt]

using Cd tracker is there a way for me to see how long until i lose a stack?

of rampaging berserker?

[olive wraith]

We don’t track this generally

[hearty stream]

Does anyone have a bar that tracks enrage ? I just have the buff icon from cdm but want to add a bar with seconds with my ww buff/rage bar

[smoky nacelle]

Sensei or bettertrackedbars

[hearty stream]

Tyvm

[prime gyro]

30% es el cap de Haste en fury?

[olive wraith]

No

[buoyant hatch]

Hey guys, I am doing quite good in raids, but struggling a bit in m+ on big pulls. Whats the ideal priorities for 10+ adds as Thane during CDs? Rampage -> TC/TB -> Rampage -> TC/TB etc? Or weave in Bloodbaths?

ofc using Odyns fury on cd

[olive wraith]

Clap on cooldown

[prime gyro]

Cual es el porcentaje?

[steep rose]

What would be the best talents to sim with on raidbots along with what patchwerk settings for fury in raids or does that not matter at all?

[olive wraith]

No hablo. No such thing as a cap

Use raidbots

[prime gyro]

Ohh ty 😅

[random shadow]

Not sure just saw folks talk about it somewhere here. Play with the settings

I personally just watch the number goes to 100 then I hit rampage

[dusk raft]

@edgy widget why is wowhead not putting a post up about the chest loot (prey, delves, weekly, tw) being bugged? Some noise on the crest issue, but silence on this one. People are wasting hours of their week across multiple characters.

[rotund steeple]

How is it bugged?

[olive wraith]

Watch it be something silly like they were in a raid group or something

[dusk raft]

People on characters (or accounts) are getting the exact same slot drops from every reward. Eg all cloaks, or all trinkets, or all weapons. It’s almost as if they’re seeding loot and the function is broken.

[frank harbor]

is arms better than fury in mm+ after 13+ ?

[winter shoal]

Both are fine, play what you want

[compact knot]

pretty sure they did

[random shadow]

They did awhile back

[compact knot]

let me check

[river nimbus]

There was also a blue post for it.

[compact knot]

i didnt have a problem on any of my characters

but i have seen a dh get like all weapons

ret paladin all weapons

hunter all wrists

[gleaming marlin]

how do yall deal with bloodlust ? i stg my GCD starts bugging out and fucks my rotation

[dusk raft]

Really? I don’t remember seeing it, maybe I missed it tho. It’s basically making all content that rewards chests pointless (outside of rep)

[dusty cove]

My guild gave me the first mythic alnseer god it's nice to sim high on a trinket for once

[edgy widget]

I don't know what you mean about it being bugged

[edgy widget]

this was reported on like two weeks ago

and I'm pretty sure blizz already acknowledged the issue

[sick frost]

is it worth to ever press rend on fury ?

[edgy widget]

As Slayer, only very marginally

[gleaming marlin]

@edgy widget do you ever deal with GCD bugging out? or like haste is so high its all fucked and buttons double press?

[sick frost]

as slayer yes, I rarely find myself not having ravage bloodthirst, whirlwind to refresh etc

[winter shoal]

What's your spell queue window set to?

[gleaming marlin]

no idea what that is

: D

[winter shoal]

https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-queue-window

[gleaming marlin]

its 400

[winter shoal]

That article says to leave it at 400 but I personally feel like for higher apm melee classes, a bit lower is preferable

150 + your ping is probably a decent starting point

[lean haven]

whats the best way to sim for fury m+?

[edgy widget]

do not under any circumstances go lower than your ping + 150

[winter shoal]

Also keep in mind that the zone you're in can affect it, if you're in the zone where the world boss is then your inputs are gonna feel like ass because of the server chugging

[gleaming marlin]

aight ty, when we lust in raid my rotation seems fucky cause of all the haste

[lean haven]

DungeonSlice or Patch with +4?

[gleaming marlin]

my ping is 8

so what 160?

[winter shoal]

HOLY

bro lives in the server room

[gleaming marlin]

LMAO

[winter shoal]

Idk probably start with like 200

maybe 250

[edgy widget]

thereabouts, it's measured in miliseconds (one-thousanths of a second), so it's not the kind of thing you need to min/max

[winter shoal]

see how it feels

[gleaming marlin]

okay

[edgy widget]

you're not going to tell the difference in intervals of 1, 10, or probably even 50

[gleaming marlin]

ill put it at 250 then?>

[edgy widget]

I'd start with 200

[gleaming marlin]

aight

[winter shoal]

You generally want it to be as high as you can without it feeling like shit from those doubled inputs

[gleaming marlin]

ty guys

yea with BL and my opener feels awful pressing my buttons ngl

[edgy widget]

it's really about feel - you want some amount of tolerance to make up primarily for latency, but also for reaction time - no matter how much you spam your keys, physical actuation time is still a thing

[gleaming marlin]

yea makes sense

[edgy widget]

but if it gets too high, then it starts feeling spongey and unreactive

[gleaming marlin]

aight ill start with 200 and see how it feels appreciate you guys ❤️

[edgy widget]

so you want the highest amount of tolerance that doesn't feel non-responsive

[grand vale]

archim, you remember this one?

good times 😄

[edgy widget]

Yeah, idk how strong it is now, but it was good back in the day

[grand vale]

yeah now it's not as strong i reckon

but funny to see it drop again

[dry hawk]

so I guess its better to just make my own key now?

[gleaming marlin]

do yk Critcake's ability on screen tracker?

[steel shard]

no

spec tank

and sign up

prot warr is busted atm anyhow

[dry hawk]

I have tank gear,

I get roasted literally EVERY key

[steel shard]

idk

when i pug i just tank

[random shadow]

Why you getting roasted

[steel shard]

learn to tank?

[random shadow]

Are yoy standing in puddles and not clicking buttons?

[edgy widget]

nope, ask him

[dry hawk]

no, its probably my small and consistent vs big ass fat pulls

[steel shard]

i would 100% flame you for that

[edgy widget]

Prot tanking is pretty easy - go Thane, spam SSlam, TClap, and IP

[winter shoal]

It's wildutools

[gleaming marlin]

ty