fury

[spring lantern]

try playing colo arms xD

[fair talon]

i mean aoe mythic plus damage

[stoic inlet]

fury slayer on boss dmg is ok

obviously it doesnt compete vs mm etc but it's much better than the other options

[fair talon]

ok i think i will quit warrior and play hunter

[waxen vale]

good move

[drifting token]

lmao

[granite crown]

Stop trying to forsee the future in a .5 patch that's coming in a month and a half, new patch notes can come tomorrow that invalidate these

[stoic inlet]

not even close to unplayable

[livid arch]

At the 14 key level, trash just feels like it evaporates atm, while boss fights are absolute slogs.

[waxen vale]

nah were on release candidate mate

[stoic inlet]

fury/war, at least it's better

[drifting token]

I promise you the rankings of people pushing +19 keys have no bearing on your life but feel free to go with your kneejerk reactions

[waxen vale]

no more changes. and its 3-4 weeks not 6

[livid arch]

They need to buff trash hp, and nerf boss hp :^)

[verbal steppe]

For the second craft do we go for wrists?

[stoic inlet]

ye

i believe so

[verbal steppe]

And what embalishments?

[elder mulch]

Myth Hearth of wind or Hero glaze ?

[stoic inlet]

i think raid trinkets are meant to be way better than dungeon trinkets rn

so hero aln is prob way better than heart (ppl can tell me if im wrong)

[gaunt anvil]

we dont really use any of these right? 💀

[gaunt anvil]

you should prolly sim it

[gleaming path]

Isn't light's march bracers pre craft bis?

I mean haste and mastery do be juicy.

[bitter palm]

guidon prolly good but wacky lineups

its good for arms idk about fury

idk whats the cd on reck and ava

[gaunt anvil]

but dont we get to craft them like this week? or am i tripping?

[gaunt anvil]

the only bad part its they are from Heroic sadly

[deft palm]

do i always want to rampage at 100 rage or can i rampage at like 90-95?

[eager thorn]

Yes but some ppl are choosing to craft cape instead of bracers since myth bracers drop from 1st Voidspire boss

[fading sky]

Yes

[gaunt anvil]

thats an actual nice take that i didnt think about, ty

[lunar mountain]

thane 100, slayer 110
during reck, spam rampage as much as you can
the point is just to not cap rage

[sly radish]

Diabolical id crash out seeing this

[gaunt anvil]

ty for your condolences 🤣

[dry talon]

what embeleshment on second crafted item?

[lofty seal]

says arcanoweave

[dry talon]

ty

[robust viper]

Presumably tier set bonus > everything else in vault this week?

[lament atlas]

Is wep always the choice here? got 285 crafted MH as it stands, and only 2 piece tier (head/gloves)

[gentle ibex]

One question. How important is to keep BT on cd? Is it old BT-x-x-BT style or just smashing by priority list?

[coarse nest]

Largest gain available if you don’t have it but I would reclear all tier sources first if another vault option is better

[deft palm]

ty

[tepid solar]

Don't you want to BT during reck to proc TB and keep avatar up longer?

[finite ravine]

:LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO: :LETSFUCKINGGO:

[granite crown]

Just smash by priority list, but that'll usually mean you're keeping BT on CD as it's the best builder in most scenarios

[coarse nest]

That’s big grats

[dry hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-all-gems-all-stones-avengers-endgame-gif-20364033

[wary quail]

hey fellow warrior´s what is the soft cap for warrior with their stats

[drifting token]

No such thing

[normal shuttle]

higher than youll hit this tier

[coarse nest]

Really there is non you just sim your gear in bags and equip what it tells you to

[wary quail]

i need numbers

[drifting token]

there arent any

[dry hawk]

The numbers are, just play game and zug

[wary quail]

so having 33% mastery is fine?

[drifting token]

how does this question keep coming up in 2026

[coarse nest]

Sure if that’s what the sim says

[gentle ibex]

I mean inside Reck there is times when SD procs, OF comes offCD and BB comes off too. Its better smash OF, then Rampage, then BB-Rampage and then Execute when I have time for that?
Or just OF-rampage-rampage-BB-Exe-Rampage?

[bitter palm]

having 90% mastery is fine if sim says so

[wary quail]

wtf is a sim?

[coarse nest]

Simulationcraft

[gentle ibex]

100% of everything is soft cap

anything else is just a bulking

[wary quail]

website?

[coarse nest]

Yes

[bitter palm]

https://youtu.be/ELbq8bdMlvY

[wary quail]

i never knew about this

[lofty seal]

ahahaha i love that guy

[wary quail]

you need an account?

[fading sky]

Wait

U are jokin r?

[wary quail]

no

im not

[smoky nacelle]

gotta b a troll

[fading sky]

Y in 2026 must be

[wary quail]

you lot are a not very helpful

[fading sky]

Aprils fool guys

[wary quail]

nah im not joking im kinda new

[fading sky]

If not watch crits video

Explains all

No stats are bad in retail

Some are better

But sims shows what u want

[lofty seal]

i actually think this discord is quite helpful

[normal shuttle]

is it not possible to sim eyes of the eagle ring enchants? i cant get any sims to process it

[coarse nest]

You can sim without an account you just have to wait in line longer sometimes and have fewer iterations (less gear options selectable at once)

[wary quail]

this is to hightech for me

i give up

ty anyways

[runic acorn]

why was thane nerfed it was good but not that good

[fickle cedar]

remove enchants from your rings or press the replace button

[normal shuttle]

ty!

[fickle cedar]

clap shouldnt be spammed tbh

[coarse nest]

Well that’s easy, it’s obviously because it was out sniping add pad from the wizards

[runic acorn]

yeah but damage decrease is just dumb

[coarse nest]

Can’t have that now can we

[runic acorn]

of course not

[lofty seal]

thane got nerfed??

[drifting token]

getting* nerfed

[runic acorn]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[lofty seal]

lmfao and frost stays untouched

[midnight glade]

What to takefrom my vault? the bracers sims highest. but i want crafted brasers with embelishment. or do i take hero bis trinket? or myth puzzel box? (i dont want to play with puzzel box its sux to play with)

[south chasm]

Does the arcane mastery weapon enchant stack when you use it on both weapons? Or should i use 1 and a different 1 in my off hand?

[fiery edge]

does ww apply rend now?

[lofty seal]

blizz devs really are a bunch of virgin mage twinks

[storm kestrel]

if you ever have any inkling to play arms, id pick the puzzle box, hero stuff is kind of easy to get

[south chasm]

True. A bunch of soy dragon wanna be

[fickle cedar]

heart angle

[fast mural]

taking wrists would be dumb since we can craft 285 embelishments this week

[flat river]

Ptr

[errant pollen]

Yes they do stack

[fiery edge]

damn blizz hestating for what

[flat river]

Guys

Midterm exam in 2 min

Wish me luck

😭

[fickle cedar]

gl gala you got this

[upbeat hound]

Any fury gods out there that can help before the implementation of the 1 button rotation goes on the bars? 😂

[wispy sedge]

Gl gl

[cedar tusk]

for Fury experts here, the Sim/raidbots says for a patchwerk ST fight it says

But how on earth is that bladestorm so high? it's simply never on CD's so often? what am i missing?

[whole pebble]

i think everybody ask that here but, i don't understand the priority when i'm thane (ST and AOE) maybe somebody can explain ? yes i'm braindead

[cedar tusk]

Trying to figure out what i'm doing wrong but i'm a lil bit confused (not using single button rotation lol btw :P)

i'd expect it's something i'm missing to reduce the CD of bladestorm but i dont see it

[winter shoal]

Sims lump a lot of damage into bladestorm that details doesn't

[fickle cedar]

from your execute damage it seems you are not using your sudden death procs as much maybe ? which translates into less bladestorms

[winter shoal]

If you expand the dropdown next to it in raidbots you'll see the offhand damage, unhinged casts, etc

[cedar tusk]

This is on the reinforced golem. so i'd expect it's only the sudden death procs, not low health ones.

oh ok missed this one

yeah ok then it looks much more in line i guess

was wondering what i was doing wrong but looks like it's semi ok (only 2-3k difference) with what i'm doing atm.

[winter shoal]

The wowhead guide generally has rotational information https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

If you have specific questions beyond that, feel free to ask

[cedar tusk]

personal preference, i prefer the m+ priority rotation over that of slayer. but that's only in my head because of the 123-refresh system of improved whirlwind :P

[zealous oar]

Hey fellow ZugZug gamers
I need help deciding on this vault! 🙂 ❤️
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2aQ8EEYDrLZ63qixaHoYyB

[brittle crow]

fail

[jovial dagger]

reclear chimerus and see after , alnseer if no drop from raid

ig

[verbal steppe]

So on the wrists arcanoweaver? Embe?

[somber mauve]

Has it been discussed yet whether slayer will pull ahead in m+ over thane after the nerf? Or will thane still be ahead?

[drifting token]

Calcs havent been done yet

Or if they have they havent been shared at least

[somber mauve]

womp womp

[lofty seal]

crazy that they even made warrior changes and 0 DK or Mage changes

[somber mauve]

ya, i dont get it

[lofty seal]

shut the discord down

[somber mauve]

similarly geared hunters dks and mages were destroying me

[drifting token]

been eyeing surv for a while, if no compensatory buffs in other areas don't happen I might push one up

[winter shoal]

There are some rough initial numbers, but those assume the same APL that's currently being used - the APL will necessarily change, but there's no real sense in spending the time doing that until the actual balance changes are more solidified

[drifting token]

i can agree with that

[quiet osprey]

i mean TV -> Ramp -> TC -> Ramp was kinda shit

so i'm more than fine with the change

dmg loss sucks tho

[somber mauve]

but thats not the way to fix it... Just put a cd on it or make it only apply to the upgraded TC

classic blizz laziness zzz

[thorny arch]

We shutting down the discord over this?

[blissful hound]

original joke right here

[somber mauve]

[thorny arch]

Just because it's not original doesn't mean it's not funny to clown on pallies.

[olive raptor]

do i take tier piece here?

[undone zinc]

Do i have to complete all parts of Late Night Training Quest for the neck?

[lofty seal]

yea but it feels kinda lazy just nerfing the damage to shit instead of offering a better rotation alternative or something

[quiet osprey]

yeah yeah, I understand and agree, but they did need to do something

[lofty seal]

not arguing ramp/tc spam was kinda lame but it was kinda fun too lol

[frank wadi]

Is Crucible of Erratic Energies stronger than it sims? I see so many top parsing fury warriors combining Crucible and Heart of Ancient Hunger. Is puzzle box sim bait, should I be uzing Crucible still?

[odd hollow]

guys i need some help if possible got Gaze Hero lvl from Vault and Solarflare myth

dunno what to pick out of those 2

[drifting token]

so sim it, why you asking us

[mental rune]

Yes, but you can just do training grounds to get the bg wins

[smoky vale]

you should also do the raid before incase you get it

[odd hollow]

did chimera always my luck 2 trinket drops lost them both at roll xD

[clear crescent]

wepon right?

[unreal onyx]

I got 2 myth track pieces so far (tier shoulders and tier chest), both are 2/6 myth track. Do I craft bracers now or sink my crests into those slots before?

[fiery edge]

pally boss run thane?

thought we're be running slayer

[warm path]

so do the thane nerfs mean we're gonna go back to only playing slayer like season 3

[fiery hare]

or arms pukes

[lunar steeple]

is voidclaw really BiS seems to not sim very well

[warm path]

i already have two arms. i don't need more

[unreal onyx]

majority of top logs are thane on every boss rn

[warm path]

yeah i know

[fiery hare]

you play what revvez plays basically

if he doesnt play you sit out

[fiery edge]

even voirasus?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[fiery edge]

holy

bring slayer back

[unreal onyx]

76/100 are thane

[drifting token]

they're clearly trying

[fiery edge]

hesitating

[undone zinc]

thx

[lunar steeple]

slayer losing avatar was the best

[warm path]

i mean i honestly enjoy both. though it was a nice change of pace to clap cheeks instead of reap them

[marble pilot]

Ive been enjoying thane. And honestly I refuse to do rend maintenance on slayer. Just a shit button.

[fiery edge]

even the damn pally bosses have more skills than pally itself

[warm path]

careful you're gonna make them shutdown the discord

[edgy lily]

sorry i know nothing about warrior i have a question for someone of my roster : how much important is the off hand for a fury warrior in terms of dps gains ? if he has a 285 craft and a 276 6/6 hero ?

[drifting token]

you're not gonna have to since they're making ww apply it as well anyway

[marble pilot]

Thats nice. I still prefer thane. But I am ok doing slayer in raid and thane in keys.

[pine zenith]

is it ok to craft back instead of wrists? i have a hero track wrists with socket

[glossy mirage]

more crazy is MM still under the radar

[smoky vale]

yes

especially since there are wrists off first boss

[charred flint]

So, guys, opener in M+ according to WoWheads posts we use OF before Reck + Ava, but most logs i was checking on Raid use Reck+Ava first, then OF, TB RAMPAGE

Which one is right?

[chilly sapphire]

I'm slowly going insane from teh amount of wrists I've looted off nexus point.

[pine zenith]

thanks

[charred flint]

🤔

[smoky vale]

the difference is minimal so it kinda doesnt matter

but of before is better

people doing it after are just doing it out of habit

from before

[river nimbus]

sometimes i remember to hit it before, sometimes i forget and hit it after. my logs can confirm lol

[edgy lily]

Comeone can helps me please gentle fury warrior :D?

[olive wraith]

Mh is more important

[lofty seal]

why wouldnt you OF after you reck/ava, its just more damage isnt it?

[olive wraith]

You lose out on a gcd of bb/cb/ramp during rek

[rare garnet]

Normal Barsing. I’m framing it. Don’t care.

[fast mural]

*not locked in

[rare garnet]

It’s locked brother.

Already renamed to Slayergodx

[winter shoal]

I had 3 not-locked-in 100s last night

All landed top 5

None actual r1

Despair

Also would've had rank 12 all classes salhadaar but my healers and ranged can't dodge lines gg

[coarse nest]

Just charge Ava + reck + of

Ez pz

[odd crater]

I finally broke 90 parses last night, first time. Felt good ngl

[edgy oasis]

ST thane - Cooldowns, you guys spamming RP + BB with the exception of that odd thunderbast (2) ???

[robust rock]

pretty much y

[karmic fiber]

Got a trash stat myth tier wrist, same shoulders and a Solarflare Prism Mythic from my vault, time to take a socket I guess

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-teto-kasane-angry-kasane-gif-3075750637843949774

[runic acorn]

when is whirlwind rend change?

[frank dawn]

next patch, prob a few weeks out still

[runic acorn]

cool, gonna keep it untalented for now lmao

[warm crag]

@fading sky why not topping dps against the world boss

[sullen dove]

man please heroic bird cant be this hard

i have to kill this thing

[fading sky]

shouldda potted

[sullen dove]

ts harder than alleria for these creatures

[warm crag]

isnt it just eat everything thats the same colour as you

[sullen dove]

sure is

[frank dawn]

the devs took comments about how easy the raid has been so far personally

[smoky vale]

soredish best %

[sullen dove]

i already told you last night

last nights group was 8x better than this

[eternal sundial]

Why u pugging

[sullen dove]

even with tanks messing up every possible tank mech

i need the 4/6 hero item

[latent gust]

they nerfed thane?

lmao

[sullen dove]

or my blood sweat and tears has been for nothing

[eternal sundial]

Arent you skyhold hall of fame celebrity

[sullen dove]

you would think that gets you pull

but it does not

[warm crag]

it probably is a detractor

[sinful blaze]

taking hero track weapon from vault over myth belt is dumb right?

[sullen dove]

probably

if its a good belt

[remote bobcat]

arent we all

[slim coral]

Belo’ren harder than cosmos 💀

[sullen dove]

yea i have 0 idea what they're doing on this boss

actively throwing race for fun i guess

[slim coral]

Idk either

Their item level seems pretty low as well

[remote bobcat]

blizz prob did this as an emergency no? Such that there is an actual race?

[fervent hinge]

Yes

[slim coral]

I mean L’ura is going to be insanely hard

[sinful blaze]

its crit/hast and sims lower cause weapon would be free upgrade to max but belt is 1/6

[remote bobcat]

lowkey feel like lura takes 100 pulls max

[sullen dove]

yea i mean thought process is just like "you will get a heroic weapon eventually would be insane not to"

but myth items are generally more rare

c/h not awful stats ig

[sinful blaze]

yea im gonna run more keys this week so its prob better to take belt

gonna wait a bit and see how drops go

[sullen dove]

yerp

[tepid beacon]

one q on Raidbots Droptimizer - it recommends this dungeon to get an upgrade here, but the upgrade is showing as a catalyst piece of equip..... how can you tell what armor its converted from? doesn't seem to say

[eternal sundial]

Nah only yellows

[proud vessel]

do you still get a piece of tier gear when you reach 2k score?

[coarse nest]

Yes

[remote bobcat]

catalyst, yes

actual free-of-choice gear piece? no

[slim coral]

Is this boss killable

Or is echo just awful

[brittle crow]

echo known bad

[sullen dove]

both

actually unfathomable to waste 40 pulls on a worthless boss that literally repeat phases

obv they know they'll need splits whats even the point

[slim coral]

41 now

They are lower item level than our guild

🤨

[sullen dove]

chuds that spent all their crests vs those that def didnt yet

but yea i mean ilvl aside just why are they pulling this

[slim coral]

We have not sent all our crest

[brittle crow]

double negative alert

[slim coral]

I’m betting they stop surely

Or do they ego

[brittle crow]

what r they pulling

rn

[slim coral]

Tbh tho those trinkets are insane

Belo’ren

[brittle crow]

that's 1st boss new raid right

[slim coral]

Yes

[stiff maple]

Wait actually How are they 274

[lofty delta]

is there a spell reflect spreadsheet anywhere for this season?

[stiff maple]

Did they wake up and just decide to start pulling beloren? For no reason?

[smoky nacelle]

https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide

[slim coral]

I said we chungus

Not me

[sullen dove]

goomba

[slim coral]

Infinity has two loot fed piggy’s

[sullen dove]

i think a lot more than 2

[quiet geyser]

Baze got both trinkets mythic already

Jesus

[coarse nest]

Ahh yes, Smart loot council

[slim coral]

Ban this Greg guy

Actually illegal

[sullen dove]

im on that leaderboard if i get 1 piece of loot out of my raid

[slim coral]

Just perform and you get the loot

[sullen dove]

cluegi

[coarse nest]

Wait am I actually close to that at 275?? lol

[rain cloud]

are we crafting bracers this week?

[slim coral]

I still have 120 myth crest

[smoky nacelle]

yes

[coarse nest]

Actually I think I can hit 276

[slim coral]

And 60 hero

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah you got me beat ez then I spent all my crests this week

[quiet geyser]

We haven't had heart drop at all yet, in any difficulty

Annoying as fuck

[rain cloud]

ty,

[smoky nacelle]

#updates-midnight message

[slim coral]

We had 5 gaze drops last night in splits

Actually insane value

[sullen dove]

die

also my god

these people in heroic bird

ts is not real

[slim coral]

You mean mythic?

[sinful blaze]

glad that i didnt forget about tw

[sullen dove]

no

[slim coral]

Who is on hero bird at 11am

[sullen dove]

me

for a 4/6 hero item i need to ascend my main

[slim coral]

You aren’t waiting on your guilds?

[sullen dove]

but been pugging this fuckin guy for like a combined 3 hours

on my alt

[slim coral]

Wild

[coarse nest]

6 hours for heroic fyrakk

[sullen dove]

about to spend like 400k on a ring or trinket

if it would ever die

[coarse nest]

3 for bird ain’t much

Ez

[sullen dove]

might be easier to just pug first boss or chim on mythic atp

buy one of those items

id even take the dogshit trink off chim so bad

[scarlet swift]

Any other converters?

[sullen dove]

big level 1 crook

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[winter shoal]

swish how hard is M Chim compared to salhadaar

[sullen dove]

idk i thought easy as hell

[slim coral]

?

[sullen dove]

sal pretty reliant on tank

[coarse nest]

Both are ez tbh

[sullen dove]

chim kind of too but not asm uch

[smoky vale]

im that guys disciple

[sullen dove]

but ur just like perma boss movement for like 80% of the fight on salhadar

[wild plank]

how come slayer is shown as "best" on wowhead, but on warcraft logs everybody is playing thane in top 100?

[coarse nest]

Don’t matter just hold for orbs and afk

Boss can go BFE all it wants

[smoky vale]

because most bosses have cleave

[winter shoal]

for us it was reliant on healers not standing in beams the second they appear (it's the same mechanic as on every other difficulty (how do they fail it every pull))

[smoky vale]

and thane just does it better than slayer

[slim coral]

Belo Reno is def tuned to rwf level

[wild plank]

ah roger, thanks dude

[coarse nest]

Thane snipes adds better

[winter shoal]

Thane big pad spec, top logs will be padding more than other logs

[coarse nest]

Slayer you gotta rng roll a sudden death proc

[slim coral]

Thane is a massive ladder

[winter shoal]

thane can also be ethical

add damage can also be ethical

but like heroic logs (esp fights like alleria) it's 100% pad

[smoky vale]

like my chimaerus

[winter shoal]

who has the video

[smoky vale]

i was ethical

[coarse nest]

Guy went down g2 and still got the rank 1

[south kayak]

All the buffs beforehand certainly helped lol

[smoky vale]

i can clip it

[south kayak]

They also said it would be harder

[smoky vale]

and upload it to yt

[south kayak]

That raid

[slim coral]

This boss is a sludgefist 2.0

One shots everywhere

[wild plank]

if we forget about padding, what build does the most ST dmg?

[sullen dove]

slayer

[onyx linden]

so crafting a cloak is around 100k gold now because someone flipped the market, bruh....

[sullen dove]

w

[coarse nest]

Yep paid 70k for mine

[winter shoal]

TFT mafia can't manipulate poe market anymore

[coarse nest]

For mats and tip

[winter shoal]

Moved into manipulating wow market

gg

[coarse nest]

About 70k total

[winter shoal]

Does your guild not do crafts/mats for you?

[onyx linden]

we do craft in guild, but need the mats

[stiff maple]

Is that tft guy still banned

[winter shoal]

Yeah and he nuked the discord I think

[smoky vale]

tft

i wanna play tft

[stiff maple]

lmfao

[winter shoal]

Different tft gio

[south kayak]

I got tagged like hell earlier today lol

People were spamming on that chat

[winter shoal]

RIPBOZO you will not be missed

except by RMTers in standard

[bitter palm]

i HOPE

midnigth falls

is 800 pulls

[south kayak]

What

Nah

Relax

[bitter palm]

no

800 pulls please blizzard

actually

[south kayak]

Did you play this league?

[bitter palm]

make it mathematically impossible

[winter shoal]

Until wow launched yeah

[south kayak]

What did you play

[winter shoal]

ele hit slayer 🐑

[south kayak]

Ok

[winter shoal]

started bleed slams

[south kayak]

I played shock nova

New gem

[south kayak]

I played bleed slams last league

It was so good

I got Lock there

[winter shoal]

I wasn't a huge fan of it tbh, felt like a worse earthshatter

could be skill issue though

[south kayak]

Hmm

I loved it tbh

It's my favorite build so far

Shock nova of recession is close though

[winter shoal]

visual clarity who?

[bleak bluff]

.05 fury nerfs
is there anything we can do about it.... fuk.

[south kayak]

Lmao yeah but it wasn't that bad actually

That spell is a little see through

[south kayak]

No

Just forget about it

Live your life

[brittle crow]

play arms

[south kayak]

Dont stress over shit you can't control

[stiff maple]

Yea im handling it dw

[bleak bluff]

already preping arms... but fury is more my taste and fun tbh

[sweet palm]

There better ways to say that you hate him and want him the worse.

[junior gale]

Damn bro y'all get one nerf and giving up already smh

[south kayak]

Lmfao

[bleak bluff]

arms damage profile isnlikenold ret pally. high aoe and low single target

[winter shoal]

I need to spend some time re-learning arms this weekend to prep for paladins

[south kayak]

Press cleave

The spec

[winter shoal]

Bozo do you think slarms is some sauce for dragons now?

insane boss dam no?

[smoky vale]

i think itll take until

.5

and just play colo

[junior gale]

After seeing what Khazix did to dragons last night might be a Colo angle

[winter shoal]

By the time .5 arrives, orbs won't live long enough for colossus to be real

Thane on forgeweaver type beat

[junior gale]

Maybe

[smoky vale]

then by then you go slayer

[winter shoal]

That's what I'm saying

[south kayak]

Oh no what did he do to the DRAGONS?!??

[junior gale]

Colo also did good boss dmg there

Cuz it's 2T

[winter shoal]

Where vod

[bronze elm]

help me choose: myth tier chest, or hero alnseer? Got maxed hero tier chest, and alnseer is +1,6k dps simmed, debating with the boys now but it's 50/50

[south kayak]

Alsneer imo

I could be wrong though

1.6 is a lot though

[static aurora]

what's the diminishing returns value of mastery for thunder fury?

[rotund ginkgo]

based or not?

[south kayak]

No

[winter shoal]

Doesn't matter, just sim your character

[rotund ginkgo]

took me like 6 runs to get ring

rings

[warm crag]

cheater

[south kayak]

How is that cheating

Who is gonna be the Saviour of Thane? @junior gale

[junior gale]

.5 slayer will be dead anyways for arms until it gets compensation buffs for losing reap

[winter shoal]

Oh real

[junior gale]

I did the effort for arms I'm sure there's enough fury players for someone else to do the same

[woven valley]

I mean both hero specs are getting kneecapped somehow

Bad times to be a warrior

[junior gale]

Colo just got massively buffed?

[scarlet swift]

Is it ever good?

[south kayak]

Huh

[verbal steppe]

whats the diff between slayer and mountain as skill wise? what should i use more for slayer?

[south kayak]

Nothing is getting kneecapped

[sullen dove]

man do i just join like a 2/2/6

[smoky vale]

could

[sullen dove]

way less loot big risk but like justk ill the boss

atp

tired of looking at it

[coarse nest]

Colo is not getting kneecapped lmao
You lose 1 free cleave in exchange for demolish 4 times a pack

[south kayak]

You could, but should you?

[coarse nest]

Damn good deal

[woven valley]

thane and slayer both are getting nerfs. thane for aoe and slayer for single target. you know the thing they are both decent at?

makes no sense when we arent even top dps

[south kayak]

How about you wait for further tuning before freaking out

[stiff maple]

I mean the patch is some time away tbf

[smoky vale]

@compact knot was most of your damage just in p2

[woven valley]

im not freaking out? just saying how it looks atm which is the whole point of discussion but go off i guess

[undone flower]

OMG BLIZZARD IS MAKING US SPAM WW

[smoky vale]

we were doing that with tc

lol

[south kayak]

My bad, I was just a little disappointed from the amount of people freaking out that I took it out on you

Lol

[woven valley]

its all good lol

[undone flower]

Probably why they shooting at storm surge tbf

[south kayak]

That's what I said

[olive cobalt]

Maybe but then they could just have hit the cdr and not the damage right ?

[olive wraith]

Tc being more frequent during avatar made you feel the cooldown though. Imo that’s good

[south kayak]

They can easily buff the spell for the damage lost

[stiff maple]

Thats cus we are gonna get uncapped improved whirlwind

[olive wraith]

Since we don’t have burst

[stiff maple]

On godular

[undone flower]

What right ?

[south kayak]

My human right to spam TC

[ember apex]

speak brother

[olive cobalt]

The second one after the pedestrian crossing

[olive wraith]

What if we get a tb charge every few seconds while avatar is active

[undone flower]

Still sad prot is getting hit tho

[south kayak]

Well, avatar being active does give you more TB procs

[olive wraith]

It does but it’s not consistent

Which is the main problem

[south kayak]

They should buff the capstone no cap

[olive wraith]

Still rng

[undone flower]

Wait the Apex tier sets

[olive wraith]

Having a reliable tb charge generator would be really solid for gameplay

[south kayak]

Oh hell no

Delete this

Before they get an idea

[undone flower]

You know they will

[olive wraith]

Bleed tier s2, apex tier s3

🔮

[undone flower]

Hero tier sets, sure they will do the same with apex

[south kayak]

They're gonna bring back our first apex version as a tier set

[olive cobalt]

What was the first version

[south kayak]

We do not speak of it

[olive wraith]

It was bad

[olive cobalt]

:despairge:

[olive wraith]

Better to not know

[olive cobalt]

Now I'm curious

[undone flower]

I gave them the idea of first version apex but a lot of people didn’t like it

[olive cobalt]

I shall seek this forbidden knowledge

[undone flower]

It was basically the same as now, just it was breath of sindragosa effect

[south kayak]

I think it was that every time you pressed rampage you got a stacking buff that activated when you pressed recklessness to give you strength per stack

[undone flower]

To be short

[south kayak]

What is it like to be short

I can't speak for that

[undone flower]

1m73 I can talk

[south kayak]

[undone flower]

It’s alright

[south kayak]

No lie I'm actually 203

I don't wanna say the cursed numbers

[undone flower]

Custom door frames in your house ?

[south kayak]

They almost hit my head if I jump a little

[undone flower]

Some things I can’t grab at the grocery store

So I don’t take them

[dusty brook]

Yo. I got Occlusion of Void (Nexus ring with crit/haste and set bonus) in vault. whats your oppinion on the ring set bonus? got the other one nhc and could farm it HC

[south kayak]

[icy whale]

patchwerk, 5 targets, 1.5min - would you do these upgrades for 180 mythic crests?

[round cypress]

Any numbers on how hard hit the recent nerd to thane is for m+ers?

[south kayak]

At least you aren't in agonizing pain whenever you have to fly on an airplane @undone flower

[undone flower]

I caught the fear of heights

[south kayak]

That's unfortunate

[undone flower]

it’s not that bad in airplanes

[south kayak]

Whenever I'm on a tall building I do get a little dizzy but I don't have fear of heights

On airplanes it's completely fine

Just different I guess

[undone flower]

I never had it, but with aging it appeared

[swift rune]

hello everyone, just talked with a nice guy from Raidbots support about the Gaze of Alnseen sims, i did know there were some bugs while simming it first days about proc rate. He said it should be fixed but to ask here if there is some kind of weird interaction between class and that trinket.
Does any of you have some more infos about it?

[south kayak]

Are you in your late twenties?

[toxic flare]

Question in the long run would it be better to make wrist or cloak. I only ask since I have champ cloak and hero socketed wrist. I plan to not not put any crest into the craft atm

[undone flower]

27

[south kayak]

Alright

That's interesting

Idk why you'd be getting it at that point lol

[smoky vale]

21

i dont like heights either

[south kayak]

I'm 30

[undone flower]

The moment I noticed I was maybe 23-24, and it was FEAR

[olive wraith]

Might not have that for a while since there’s a chance other things change

[south kayak]

Have you tried not having a fear of heights

Is there an actual way to improve this?

[undone flower]

Idk I don’t think you can cure lot of mental things, like my fear of frogs

[round cypress]

Alright, thanks. What other things might change ?🤔

[south kayak]

Maybe exposure?

[olive wraith]

Literally anything

[south kayak]

Frogs? I haven't seen frogs in ages man lol

[olive wraith]

Blizz discretion

[south kayak]

Do you live somewhere with lots of frogs?

[undone flower]

Frogs are everywhere

Wet = frogs

It’s just seasons when they pop up

[olive wraith]

Ocean?

[compact knot]

In what

[south kayak]

This is a little embarrassing but I do have a bit of a fear of grasshoppers/large crickets

[south kayak]

I live in the desert

[smoky vale]

drsgons

[undone flower]

Yeah it’s embarrassing but it’s just irrational

[smoky vale]

but i looked and all your shit was orbs

we paddrs stick together though

[south kayak]

I know all about irrationality, I have OCD

[undone flower]

There is tunnels under the road where I live for frogs

[compact knot]

Except it's like highest boss damage out of all the warriors that killed it

[smoky vale]

did you send cs only

and then hold everything till orb

[vague stump]

is arms actually better than fury now am I seeing this correctly?

[south kayak]

No

[smoky vale]

or you cs insta demo

[south kayak]

In m perhaps

Probably

[compact knot]

Cs demo usually

[compact knot]

Fight dependant

[smoky vale]

getting off the boss gotta be aids though

[vague stump]

so for M+ arms is just better now?

[young swan]

congrats everyone on the promotion

[warm crag]

yellow box

oh wait

[olive wraith]

[smoky vale]

gz xan

[compact knot]

Oh nice I'm yellow

Deserved

[south kayak]

Why am I yellow

[vague stump]

wait why am I yewllow

[south kayak]

Oh

[undone flower]

Wtf

[smoky vale]

oh

[vague stump]

......................................

we are all rogues now it seems

[olive wraith]

Time to ban everyone

[random shadow]

[undone flower]

I knew snoredih yellow was April fools

[compact knot]

It was good until people in my raid learned the fight a bit better

Some new characters

The boss damage is good asf though

[smoky vale]

so dont swap now

[south kayak]

Actual yellows must be feeling bad right about now

[fiery edge]

bird boss, we use thane or slayer

[smoky vale]

slayer

[south kayak]

They lost their cool color

[smoky vale]

i think

[compact knot]

I think you can play arms or fury on dragons

Arms more boss dam

[undone flower]

@sullen dove L

[south kayak]

L Stormforged moment

[calm tide]

How is wow analyzer for rotation breakdown errors?

I'm bad and slowly understaind the prio order.

[olive wraith]

It works

[slim coral]

holy look at all the ywllos

gz boys yall are the goats

[olive wraith]

lol

[sullen dove]

w

[young swan]

its good

should use it

[olive wraith]

Can roles not be same color?

[smoky vale]

they can

[sullen dove]

now lets remove the blue color haha!

[smoky vale]

true

[slim coral]

yeah lets make blue red!

[sullen dove]

oh wait ego to fragile

chatting

[slim coral]

make blue orange and orange green

[olive wraith]

[young swan]

i couldve done like yellow -> blue -> brown but i feel like that gets too confusing

[olive wraith]

Make blue Evoker color

[vague stump]

can we get the execute buff on slayer fury pls so I can play slayer instead of thane

[smoky vale]

xan

are you gonna gear showingbelly

[young swan]

fuck no

[olive wraith]

Just play slayer then

[sullen dove]

i require a loot injection and kill on beloren please

[undone flower]

showingbelly

[south kayak]

Can you change Archi's color

Don't mention I said this

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure orange is second highest

[young swan]

no i remember when they did this in the past TC and valkyr were specifically left alone

[undone flower]

Orange -> white

[sullen dove]

too afraid perhaps

[south kayak]

Xan is a coward mod (don't ban me)

[young swan]

main issue with an alt is just that i have to set up a UI and thats far more work than i want to do

[brittle crow]

they're making too many people yellow

wtf

go back

[young swan]

i agree

[sullen dove]

dude how we wiping in p1 before egg even spawns

ts exploding mental

[brittle crow]

i don't want to look up to those brown names

[sullen dove]

im actually 1v20ing

[young swan]

warrior gotta be in for laura right?

[slim coral]

ye

100p

[dense elbow]

Xan

[sullen dove]

yea you got a prot spot

[slim coral]

it looks like algalon 2.0

[dense elbow]

Make me brown again

[undone flower]

Prot 100%

[young swan]

grats on yellow funkykitty

[dense elbow]

[south kayak]

Who is Laura

[young swan]

i will castrate you.

[brittle crow]

make me purple

[olive wraith]

You are same color as your beloved spell now

[dense elbow]

Fine, I take it

[south kayak]

Isn't it orange

Not yellow

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[south kayak]

We love overtuned bosses

[olive wraith]

Is it? Always looked more yellow to me

[young swan]

did this shit on normal last night and it was lowkey one of the coolest fights ive ever done

[south kayak]

Damn

[young swan]

like i can see the potential

[south kayak]

Xan calling a fight cool?

Must be great

[undone flower]

Just beloren looks demonic

[south kayak]

Lmao

Your name got me confused

[undone flower]

The color* got you confused

[south kayak]

[olive wraith]

Too bad mods can’t mass name change

And add 57 to everyone’s name

[remote bobcat]

why the fuck are we piss

[young swan]

grats on your promotion!

[south kayak]

Yep

[olive wraith]

Rest in piss warriors

[undone flower]

For Rip rwf rogues

[south kayak]

Do it

[young swan]

holy fuck twitch changed every font to comic sans

[south kayak]

[young swan]

i thought i changed it somehow

[south kayak]

The fuck

[dense elbow]

Now that is gold

[olive wraith]

Done

[south kayak]

It's not comic sans on the mobile version

[undone flower]

Glad #810892657924636713 got deleted

[warm frost]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-the-office-welcome-aboard-gif-27005393

[south kayak]

Did it though

It's upgraded

[lean lava]

quick question, which addon do you use guys for defensive stance indicator

[undone flower]

I use the cdm buffs but there is an addon

[trail locust]

crazyyyy

[radiant plank]

Dragon Games Equipment

[opal quarry]

two 2h

Which one is better lads

[smoky vale]

bis arms

2h

you should sim

but probably the chakram for fury

[undone flower]

I guess it’s the one ppl use
https://addons.wago.io/addons/defensive-stance-reminder

[opal quarry]

ye im fury for pve

n got a crafted one haste/mast

[smoky vale]

do you know how to sim your character?

[opal quarry]

[spare steppe]

I use class reminders

[opal quarry]

i take hammer

[smoky vale]

if thats what robot says

[coarse nest]

I take vault off feelycraft

[winter shoal]

https://addons.wago.io/addons/defensive-stance-reminder

[spare flame]

i don't press def stance

[elder osprey]

so guys

whats our stance with the recent changes

[odd crater]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/no5ym8aodwFuuNybsUqd6j

Must hit 100k sim without buffs

[elder osprey]

are we shutting down the discord or what

[digital mauve]

head or trinket bis? I already got the other als trinket last week

[rotund ginkgo]

how tf do people sim 90k

[coarse nest]

I wouldn’t pick hero item from vault personally

[odd crater]

Myth from vault fo sho

[rotund ginkgo]

^

[digital mauve]

and then covert it to set?

[rotund ginkgo]

289 helmet with no socket is a dps loss over 276 helmet with socket LMAO

[coarse nest]

Ask me how I know

[odd crater]

Wait when did we all become yellows

[coarse nest]

I’m in that situation

..

[rotund ginkgo]

we're all pee

[coarse nest]

Can’t complain happy to proc early socket

[winter shoal]

Back to shit brown for some of us

[south kayak]

If your pee is this yellow you need to drink more water

[odd crater]

My pee looks like vodka

[rotund ginkgo]

my vodka looks like pee

[south kayak]

Less water for you

[coarse nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hxsbbrpottjX9M7eom61cZ

Just get loot bro

All I have left is 3 ilvl on wrists then I’m stuck waiting for raid and vault hehe

[south kayak]

That item level is giving me Shadowlands PTSD

[coarse nest]

Hahaha

Never considered that until you said it

[south kayak]

That must be the last tier item level, right?

[hollow leaf]

so many yellows here

oh...

[oblique trail]

@sullen dove@sudden tusk wyhen yellow

[hollow leaf]

I fucking hate april fools

[echo scarab]

my boys vault is cooked

[mossy fox]

i also got tricked bolvar

[oblique trail]

@mossy fox whgen yellow

[mossy fox]

for like 5 seconds

[calm tide]

Who said you can hang here?

[mossy fox]

when i stop streaming

[young swan]

welcome back

[oblique trail]

when stop streaming

I'm yellow agianst my will

[hollow leaf]

no then you're brown

[oblique trail]

how do I file a complaint to discord

[south kayak]

Weren't you yellow before

[mossy fox]

wtf am i changing race

[hollow leaf]

yep

you went to a barber and changed skin color

[rotund ginkgo]

i havent crafted raidance yet

tbh

[south kayak]

I could have sworn you were Stormforged

I guess not

[mossy fox]

makes sense

[compact siren]

why isnt galastronk orange

[hollow leaf]

crit is stormforged

but stormforged is brown now

[plain pawn]

Guys forgive me. Do we use WW or not w/ MT

[hollow leaf]

clap replaces it mostly

[dry hawk]

Clap, no ww

[south kayak]

No

[drowsy heron]

no way thats real lol

[coarse nest]

The mythical white monster makes it believable

[hollow leaf]

there's like once in a hundred pulls or something you'll need to press ww if everything else is on cd

[south kayak]

The only real item on there

[coarse nest]

I can’t believe how many times the quic sim presses rend in the first minute

[fickle abyss]

why would we craft wrist instead of cloak, isn't it better to craft cloak since it give worst armor stats, myth wrist = more strength (also we have nice wrist from 1st boss myth)? Or this is w/e?

[pallid pelican]

Is there any good guides you guys can recommend for warrior rotaitons

[coarse nest]

Craft cloak and loot wrists off first boss

Or be like me and bench two weeks in a row on first boss lmao

[south kayak]

The wowhead guide?

[spare flame]

is this shit any good?im contemplating it

[radiant plank]

na

[rotund ginkgo]

@coarse nest simming how much id haev with 2nd craft

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hVKdm4sr839wCdFYBowzjX

is this a joke

hows the craft such little gain

[plain pawn]

How accurate is ChatGPT with simc apl stuff, I’m asking it to make me a import string based off top m+ fury
Logs

[radiant plank]

bad

[radiant plank]

Craft belt noob

[rotund ginkgo]

why

my belt is haste mast

[radiant plank]

idk more stats

[coarse nest]

What thee

[radiant plank]

vs wasting 80myths for bracer :)

[rotund ginkgo]

CORNBALL ALERT

i didnt craft anything yet did i

im simming

brew help me

[coarse nest]

Don’t craft with myth crests

Ez fix

[rotund ginkgo]

even 259 bracers or cloak make no sense though

look at the topgear

[odd crater]

Been here all along

[rotund ginkgo]

259 bracers ARENT A DAMAGE GAIN

[upbeat hound]

Need guidance if possible 🙏 cause I suck.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cGKZJVa6wpLRQn4C?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=6

[coarse nest]

I went 259 arcano cloak for a whopping 4dps gain

Not at all sim variance

My raid leader pinged us for not having two embellishments

[rugged sphinx]

Does anyone think its worth crafting 285 bracers with embellishment on?

[coarse nest]

If you have no other myth items to spend crests on and you won’t anytime soon

Go for it

[lilac osprey]

Depends on if you think your going to get mythic gear from raid this week

[rugged sphinx]

Nar my guild raids heroic and thats about it

[coarse nest]

Then I’d just send it

[lilac osprey]

Then it probably is worth it

[rugged sphinx]

My mythic stuff from vault was rubbish, I did get heroic trinket from 2nd boss in void

[rotund ginkgo]

im holding vault+crafting

cuz raid in 30 mins

[coarse nest]

Actually if he’s a only heroic gamer

Might even consider a bigger statted item

[rugged sphinx]

Full time job and 2 kids, dont really have time or energy for mythic raiding lol

[storm meadow]

o/

[rare garnet]

Only spent 20 myth crests cause weapon. So many left over crests. Suffering from success.

[storm meadow]

It's just me or we have a chaotic AF rotation in Thane ?

[coarse nest]

No?

You just spam ramp and tc when theres 7+ targets

[rare garnet]

lol, color swap is insane April first

[random shadow]

thane ez pz, slayers rotation is more carpal tunnel

[honest trail]

I was confused about the colors

[dry hawk]

I got 4pc all heroic from vault this week

[lilac crystal]

can anyone tell me why guides say that Slayer is better in raid but when you look at top logs it seems like people are predominantly running Thane? I am new to dps warrior and feel like im missing something

[random shadow]

this tier has lots of adds in the boss fights

[storm meadow]

What I mean by that is that the rotation used to be very very stable with little to no procs

[random shadow]

slayer is typically better in ST raid boss fights

[storm meadow]

Now we get triple BT sometimes

[random shadow]

triple BB/BT good tho

[coarse nest]

The way thane does damage is better against the current fight designs

[random shadow]

does even more then TB techically

[gleaming path]

Heya all is there a cap on haste you'd aim for fury before going heavy into mastery n crit?

[random shadow]

dont think theres a cap per say, i stopped around 20-25% before deciding to go more into matsery

[coarse nest]

I just feely crafted 20% while farming and then started simming droptimizer one upgrade at a time

[random shadow]

tho im near hitting cap with flask and trinkt and stuff so ima put more into crit or haste now

[honest trail]

Padding

Log ranking aren't everything

[olive wraith]

Sim yo self

[honest trail]

It's like saying I ranked higher than Critcake on a fight so he should reroll & never touch fury ever again 🤡

[lilac crystal]

yea i get that, its just confusing to see most of them are going against the information in the guides

[random shadow]

he should go back to arms

where he belongs

jk

[honest trail]

Because once you are good enough on a character, you just play what you want & how you want

& adapt it to your personal goals/needs

I personally play Slayer in every content

Even M+

[random shadow]

just like nox enjoying and timing higher keys as slayer

[honest trail]

& I don't give a fuck

[random shadow]

instead of MT

[honest trail]

About guides

What he said

[random shadow]

guides are just guides, theyre suppose to guide you into the general direction

its still up to you how you wanna play and still be good

[coarse nest]

What the rank 1 player is doing is gospel

Duhhh

[random shadow]

sso we must play slayer in keys

[honest trail]

This

[young swan]

thane plays the fights better

[honest trail]

Slayer will win in 0.5

[lilac crystal]

how much of a potential (theoretical) difference are we talking about if you run Thane over the Slayer cleave build?

[honest trail]

Pray

[random shadow]

idk about that, wasnt the slayer changes not the greatest

i havent paid attention to slayer tbh

[coarse nest]

They are pretty bad

[drifting token]

slayer arguably got cucked even worse

[honest trail]

Reap on Rampage cleave & Thane turbo nerfed

[young swan]

~15% but probably more

[random shadow]

reap on rampage sounds not too bad, whats the % on that

[olive wraith]

Did it?

[young swan]

20%

[honest trail]

20

[random shadow]

is it shitty 15%

[gleaming path]

Funny you say that he is playing Arms now on his stream xdd

[honest trail]

Atm

[random shadow]

20

hm

[random shadow]

i say this cause crit just likes arms way more then fury

[honest trail]

20% on Rampage + 100% on SD still

But only on 3 targets

We need an ST buff

To compensate

[random shadow]

whats on 3 target?

[coarse nest]

Equip all the Crit as arms

[random shadow]

the SD?

[coarse nest]

Makes it feel good to play

[honest trail]

Both Ramp & SD

Only reap on 3 targets minimum

So no reap in ST anymore

[random shadow]

thats kinda lame

[honest trail]

So we need some ST buffs

[tardy lark]

we need god

[random shadow]

that sounds great in AOE and keys but ST sounds so bad

[honest trail]

Either AA, RB, Strikes, w/e

[random shadow]

just make every proc reap man

ez pz fix

at least the main abilitites

[coarse nest]

Well not exactly, it could open the door for our single target damage to come from ability presses rather than rng reap procs

[dim merlin]

what would you guys pick here?
0/4 set

[honest trail]

Yeah that

AOE procs & more raw ST

Sounds good to me

The direction isn't bad tbf

[random shadow]

i just want it to feel good is all

[quiet skiff]

Hello guys, is everyone crafting wrists ?

[honest trail]

Not there yet but it's fine

[honest trail]

Yes

[random shadow]

i crafted cloak

[honest trail]

Or cloack

[hollow leaf]

🤷 I'm crafted cloak