fury

[warm crag]

ok but did you see what he builds on that character

[dapper goblet]

you know my frost spec is 84k right

he likes to for fun it

madox first buys egg

[sullen dove]

No crucible is pretty good

[warm crag]

i think you need to be put into the time crystal if you play gun bebop

[dapper goblet]

how to scare a bebop player

[digital crown]

Hi gamers when server back up

[covert blaze]

soon

[bitter palm]

hi

[warm crag]

i am so happy you can parry midair as vindicta now

[smoky nacelle]

gimme mah 272!!

[warm crag]

the lash trying to heavy melee me midair is probably still not living it down when he fell like 10 meters after getting parried

[spare steppe]

Both trinkets are solid

[dapper goblet]

i see you purchased knock down

let me press f

[smoky vale]

yday i did a key with zhai and ish

was coo

[dry hawk]

Anything was probably better than that mark of light

[covert blaze]

hello conus

[warm crag]

👎 i will not be slain

[bitter palm]

i hope u get mythic gaze from vault

[smoky vale]

wb me

[bitter palm]

i hope u get one too gio

five seven

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902189324341227562/1487612335047708735/image.png?ex=69cd1233&is=69cbc0b3&hm=7508ac9750bb7c3dd915076880a046880227df61d55642f1bfb8cb8a117770cf&

[smoky vale]

cinco siete

[warm crag]

what do we think about objective damage vindicta

[dapper goblet]

what do we think about decay first buy shiv

[warm crag]

about as good as the echo shard first buy bebops i saw

[balmy shore]

login deadlock

[gleaming siren]

sei sette

[steel shard]

ragebait

[smoky vale]

en serio

[gleaming siren]

279

for 10 seconds

???

[coarse nest]

Bro said five seven

[smoky vale]

that has to be chimaerus

[coarse nest]

We finally have the good Kek

Thank god

[dapper goblet]

everything

[smoky vale]

xd

cheers

so its including dragons as well

[random shadow]

youre welcome, xan put it in when i told him it was lame having the lesser kek lmao

[random shadow]

[dense elbow]

Give more 5sec pad

[coarse nest]

Wonderful

[dapper goblet]

warriors admit when they're good challenge impossible

[coarse nest]

W dash dash dash space dash dash space dash

Guys owning

[smoky vale]

xeos notfotm challenge impossible

[coarse nest]

Ahh yes warrior shown clearly as the best

[dapper goblet]

think you're missing something at the top

[modest condor]

man i love it when warrior is good on a pad boss so it goes high on the overall dps rankings but then doesnt get brought to the more difficult bosses because it's actually not good at all

[dense elbow]

Nop, that is all of em

[smoky nacelle]

we up boys

login

[dense elbow]

Gl in vault ppl

and happy day1 clear

o/

[dapper goblet]

pad boss when every boss has adds

[dense elbow]

[smoky nacelle]

gl on vaults

272

[coarse nest]

Can’t wait until they invalidate adds

[balmy shore]

they would too

[dense elbow]

[balmy shore]

god

[smoky vale]

up

[balmy shore]

invalidate the entire raid tier log

tbh

[coarse nest]

😂

[balmy shore]

adds on every boss man

like wcyd

[warm crag]

so true dont look at #1 chimaerus fury parse boss damage

[balmy shore]

xd

[echo rapids]

But we do well at blasting adds that are dead in 5 seconds!

[dapper goblet]

unholy very op on the donkey boss

[coarse nest]

I too held for dps adds

🍻

[random shadow]

since im stuck in the logging in to game server and i play area 52 ima assume the server is up for you non fully populated server enjoyers

[dense elbow]

Adds kinda is Fury's job

so yeah

we all do

[echo rapids]

It’s what we do well

[dense elbow]

only thing too

[warm crag]

my r1 locked in

[coarse nest]

Me when orbs spawn

[warm crag]

Holy

[coarse nest]

[dense elbow]

Duality of man, raider

[rare garnet]

Adds that matter. None of its pad,

[dense elbow]

Either you are #1 or noone

[coarse nest]

Rank 1 out of 1 god damn that’s sick

[echo rapids]

When you are trying to convince others to play their ST spec because fury’s ST spec is the same as its aoe spec 😔

[warm crag]

its not easy being in my own ilvl bracket

[rare garnet]

Spoon fed ass ho

[warm crag]

you think im spoonfed loot when i did 86k against chimaerus

[dense elbow]

Yes

[rare garnet]

Yes

[echo rapids]

How early was that imperator death?

[warm crag]

like a minute in maybe

[echo rapids]

Like 1:30 in?

Makes sense

[coarse nest]

Bro sat in the X smh my head

[deft palm]

do i just get banner?

[brisk yacht]

if i have hero bracers with socket do i craft cloak next reset?

[warm crag]

freak guessing the exact time

[coarse nest]

Low key banner cranks st

Boots better long term probably idk

[echo rapids]

Well I figured 90k dps on a 6:40 fight, you do 20k….

[echo rapids]

Ooph

[deft palm]

shit vault

ik

i dont even have 4pc yet

or 2 set

was hoping for a myth chest

or something

[dense elbow]

noice

[coarse nest]

We ap on

Nice

[echo rapids]

Feels like dungeon trinket pool is extra shit this season

2 hander baby! Blasting!

[balmy shore]

wpw

[sullen dove]

yea theres like 2 somewhat ok ones

[indigo harbor]

do i go for weapon or ring hmmm

[sullen dove]

assuming good stats prolly weapon buta lso sim

think end goal is nexus rings anyway

u may be using your weekly bonus rolls on that dungeon for em

[echo rapids]

I think weapon is easy choice but I don’t remember what secondaries

[sullen dove]

no trinket gg

[warm crag]

isnt the haste mast one with some different ring vaguely slightly better

[random shadow]

the hero gaze at 3/6 hero is outsiming the 6/6 myth weapon is this sim bait?

[sullen dove]

idk maybe but i like seeing a fulfilled 2set

and it does some dmg

[warm crag]

more green text on gear >>>> less green text on gear

[echo rapids]

Probably true but the trinket is farmable

[random shadow]

true, gonna take the weapon anyways, its just interesting lookign at sims

[balmy shore]

neck is looking at me like oo pick me but it's prob catalyze chest/legs

[dense elbow]

weapon upgrade is in the wrong hand, no?

[sullen dove]

yes

[unreal onyx]

wowhead bis list says platinum star band is bis

[warm crag]

your trinkets look horrid

[sullen dove]

chest insta off chimerus prolly not that

[random shadow]

not wrong forgot to change it

[balmy shore]

then legs

[warm crag]

wowhead bis list is ai generated

[dense elbow]

fix it

[balmy shore]

i was gonna check when each drops

but also i might be playing my dk for chim this week

zz

[lament lagoon]

p2 waiting room

[unreal onyx]

zzz

[odd crater]

Okay real talk what’s best item for 2nd radiant myth craft

[south kayak]

hello fellow warriors

[sullen dove]

alt warrior o7

(im taking the prism)

need the crest save for my technology

[warm crag]

isnt that trinket vendor trash

[unreal onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391348785650991115/1407386691819536404/WAS-3x.gif

[sullen dove]

its like the only somewhat useable m+ trink i think but not crazy yea

gillneas seemed to really want it

[weak tartan]

is this a catalyst week?

[odd crater]

Yarp

[sullen dove]

its either that or bracers

[unreal onyx]

chim + vorasius trink supremacy

[sullen dove]

and not takin bracer

[warm crag]

has gillneas considered clicking "bis" on the raid trinkets and mind controlling loot council to give them to you

[sullen dove]

unfortunately no

that does not occur in his guild

there is a resident loot vacuum in all of his runs

[warm crag]

damn

[spare steppe]

Ah can’t wait to open vault later

[sullen dove]

man i wish my main and alt warrs vaults were swapped

id take heroic aln or myth weapon otherwise

[red salmon]

upsetting

[sullen dove]

but i have work that must be done

[spare steppe]

I’m gonna get mythic gloves I can feel it

[sullen dove]

so solarflare it is

[spare steppe]

Mythic weapon isn’t terrible

[lament lagoon]

trink angle? il prob to chim before i choose

everything else shit anywways

[red salmon]

it's not terrible, but versatility makes me puke a little

[unreal onyx]

big trink

[coarse nest]

IMO cloak because wrists drop off first boss

Not very contested

[echo rapids]

Agreed

Haste mast braces off first boss

[undone flower]

YEP CLOAK

[wise magnet]

How accurate is something like the WoWhead BiS list? Fury's BiS list seems very easy to pull off if that's that absolute best.

[south kayak]

It's accurate but it all depends on your character an what gear they have

so simming is the best course of action

[spare steppe]

Good for perfect gear but always sim

[undone flower]

The bis list requires you to kill the last boss in mythic

[unreal onyx]

but wrists is always a good slot to fall back on if shit vault for socket

[ocean ore]

Yall sending myth crests for second craft or depends on what's in vault

[wise magnet]

Oh I mean fair, if I was looking at it through everything capping at hero track xd

[undone flower]

Bis list = mythic

[unreal onyx]

bis list = cutting edge

[coarse nest]

Ehh just hold socket until wrists drop off first boss

[wise magnet]

I'm crafting weapon this week.

[coarse nest]

Should have last week

[digital mauve]

does anyone know how to display " no heroic leap" in front of the screen?

[wise magnet]

Yeah I goofed my first craft but it's whatever. Weapon this week

[charred garden]

hello , i have started playing furry warr since this expansion , but am struggle to improve , can experienced warr check up my logs on this boss and point out what wrong with my dps

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/K8tywvB1DRzGdLC4?fight=last&type=damage-done

[orchid iron]

mythic windspire trinket or mythic offhander with the wrong secondaries...

[wise magnet]

Oof

[orchid iron]

raidbots says trinket but Im curious about longevity

[wise magnet]

I can FEEL a Gaze in my vault.

[south umbra]

Recommended second craft for fury?

[eternal sundial]

@young swan ya xanny xanny laurel

[unreal onyx]

why would the myth weapon be offhand

[eternal sundial]

Is Limit just not streaming yet or are they going dark what's going on here

9 am in LA

[undone flower]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-12686883553708718330

[rare garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-mode-be-like-darkmode-gif-20993262

[orchid iron]

poor wording, youre right, but I have crafted 285 already is what I meant

[eternal sundial]

Lowkirkenuinely does anykirk know

[undone flower]

It’s like the best thing they could do so it would not surprise me

Dark and walk in the raid

[winter shoal]

@sullen dove pissed or what

[unborn delta]

Any spoons in here

[sullen dove]

die

but gz

[echo rapids]

If you have a myth ring you have to max both heroic ring slots to 6/6 to get the discount right?

[rare garnet]

Yeah it’s a 2 boss race. Lots of stress.

[rare garnet]

Liquid needs to swap the 3/3 RWF. But even if they don’t get these two they still won 2•1

[coarse nest]

Hollyy that’s big

[dire vigil]

Wife went into labor on season launch day and I spent almost all week in the hospital but hammered out my vault yesterday - worth!

[undone flower]

He saved 9 turboboost token

[autumn pumice]

IS IT POG?

[kind python]

am I really about to pick mythic puzzle box

[coarse nest]

Hell yeah that’s pog

Grats

[kind python]

fuck this trinket

[eternal sundial]

Imagine echo start to play

Limit have killed it off stream

Hillarious

Id probably disband as eu atp

[undone flower]

I suspect it will die pretty fast

[sullen dove]

oh nice predators already got a hold of the arcanoweave bolt market

gg gl making cloak today

ffs shouldve bought em last night

[balmy shore]

this tier is making me broke

[steady snow]

puzzlebox or heart of wind

[balmy shore]

think it's the most expensive things have costed at the beginning of a tier

[unborn delta]

I’m making cloak also

[coarse nest]

Cloak is smart

[oblique thistle]

Wrist angle perhaps

[coarse nest]

Wrists off first boss

[sullen dove]

o7

[oblique thistle]

Oh

Belt maybe?

[sullen dove]

cloak also off dragon

so not much further in

[unborn delta]

Your guild doesn’t pay for your everythng?

[coarse nest]

Haste mastery wrists

[unborn delta]

Our cata cloak is ass also

haste vers

Cata wrists are okay I think? Don’t remember

[undone flower]

But they will return to splits if after few pulls they are sad, but if it goes low, it will die before EU reset

[balmy shore]

only some things we don't put in effort to do sales

consumables

our first crafts

4k repair

[broken walrus]

I dont need to swap to arms right?

[oblique thistle]

No

Fury is good

[unborn delta]

You should go arms if your a chad 💪

[sullen dove]

me when alt higher ilvl than main cluegi

[oblique thistle]

I am playing arms because I like doing mega aoe

[sullen dove]

(sent every crest i possibly could)

[eternal sundial]

Fix the mog

[sullen dove]

uhh nothin to fix

[eternal sundial]

(pink goggles)

[broken walrus]

Hows it feel on ST bosses?

[oblique thistle]

P bad, unless you pull stuff on top of the boss

The aoe dam is pretty awesome tho

Also im personally kind of bored with fury

[spare steppe]

Everything but enchants for us

[oblique thistle]

I've played the spec so long and it didnt get anything new or exciting

[odd crater]

Thank god my tailor is arcanoweave specced

Time to offload my inventory bb

[coarse nest]

You’re not 275?

What the hell??

[sullen dove]

when i fill the 263 pieces i own then yes

need some big plate funnel

i am 6 items away from greatness and a hero of the dawn acheivement for my main

[dapper goblet]

voodoo upon all your buckets

[sullen dove]

+farming out the 220 crests this week

[dapper goblet]

if i cant get a good one neither can you

[sullen dove]

retweet

got nothing of value

everyone be cursed ooo

[odd crater]

Inb4 I have an absolutely GOAT’d vault

[twilit temple]

So dumb question, the BIS list on WoWhead is the theoretical BIS if you had access to any item, correct?

[sullen dove]

every item all at the same time yes

but if not that then u just sim

and its basically your own bis list

[odd crater]

Alternatively just keep pushing for Wowhead BIS and complain about your lack of drops to anyone willing to listen

[tepid adder]

Would you guys grab a myth 2h or a myth legs (+ catalyst) out of the vault

[odd crater]

Source: It’s me

[twilit temple]

I ask b/c I have the cloak in vault that's on that list but it sims only 100 lower of another cloak

[dense elbow]

Weapon

[lament lagoon]

new raid sam ilvl right

[tepid adder]

Got this bad boy in the vault

[unborn delta]

Should I take voidclaw alnseer or magister axe

[echo rapids]

We getting big!

[tepid adder]

Damn nice axe

[spare flame]

holy fuck my warrior vaults are so ass

jesus

[humble plover]

old and busted

[coarse nest]

This is so bait lmao

[humble plover]

new hotness

[coarse nest]

Nice one

[echo rapids]

Except now I dont have shit to spend my myth crests on lol

[tepid adder]

Damn, I'm about to do the exact same from 2 x 263s

[humble plover]

@warm crag @sullen dove see i said all would be good on reset

[sullen dove]

wym

[humble plover]

this

[coarse nest]

Bro got weapon

Aware

[past wyvern]

Hey, is it fine to craft either back or belt instead of wrists this week ?

[sullen dove]

it didnt work on me..

[coarse nest]

Cloak is solid

[surreal linden]

next craft suggestiosn?

[coarse nest]

[subtle lynx]

Yes the ilvls are crap. Currently have two piece boots and fists. Opinions? Gaze is probably too low ilvl?

[spare flame]

i got a good ass wrist from raid ima craft a belt or cloak methinks

[sullen dove]

prolly just heroic shoulder atpo

[surreal linden]

im leaning towards wrists for me

[marble stratus]

The puzzle box is showing as a dps loss /sigh

[steel shard]

what the hell

did you not play this week?

[humble plover]

voidcalw W tho

[steel shard]

pick gloves obv

[sullen dove]

well its not good on single target so yea

only in m+

oh yea u got gloves too lol what

u take that insta

[marble stratus]

yeah, grabbing gloves

[coarse nest]

Can I speed run the pvp quest for neck

?

[potent sinew]

No it's weekly.

Won't drop till next week at least

[hollow gate]

iirc we have 1 more week of pvp after this

[warm crag]

why am i getting pinged

[humble plover]

cuz ur cute

[subtle lynx]

Returning player, had to rush in what I could. But yeah, pretty much.

[chilly zodiac]

so is crafted weapon still BiS?

[opal leaf]

If i missed 1st quest still can i get neck?
#updates-midnight message

[coarse nest]

Ahh got it I won’t bother then thanks

[eager thorn]

Yes

[prime summit]

sheeshhh

[opal leaf]

thanks a lot

[sage pollen]

hey guys, i'm assuming crafting 2nd embellishment on cloak is the same as on wrist, correct?

[coarse nest]

Yes

[naive eagle]

I guess I just take wrists and cat (to get 4 pc)? Is there something that I can craft to get the embellished that replaces the wrist?

[sage pollen]

you dont get 4 pc from wrist

[chilly zodiac]

so is crafted not wrists/weapon anymore?

[eager thorn]

You’re not locked into doing 1 per week, once its available to be gotten you can spam all 4 quests in a few hours or whatever

[naive eagle]

So I guess I should just take the gloves?

Those wrists don't seem very good to me then

[eager thorn]

Not 100% sure on when 4/4 quest that gives it actually comes out tho

[coarse nest]

Perfect that’s what I needed to know

[odd crater]

Wrists can drop from early bosses. Wrists still good, cloak also good

[coarse nest]

So next week chore

[eager thorn]

Yea

[naive eagle]

Idk, the trinket is nice too, I guess?

[pine crater]

help

[coarse nest]

Box or helm probably

[random shadow]

oh shit i forgot about that quest., i didnt do last weeks one, can i do both this week

[eager thorn]

Yes

[coarse nest]

Box is nice

[random shadow]

but just do trainign grounds

2 simple training grounds

[pine crater]

here's my gear

hero helm w socket

[steep bough]

do we trust this ?

or is the neck sim bait

[coarse nest]

That’s not arcano weave

[plain bough]

how goods this voidstorm trinket ? ive been told its effects work in raids/m+

[eager thorn]

Sim it

[coarse nest]

It’s good just make sure you have all 3 protocols talented

[sullen dove]

yea its not bad

need to do some world content to fully buff

but takes like 20m

[plain bough]

oh howcome ?

[hybrid cargo]

i was just looking at this.... like its a hold over item right so im making the other one with arcano

idk if youre pushing high high content maybe it makes sense but i was under the impression bis was OH bracers eventually

[ember apex]

where are my fellow myth track mainhanders at:

throw that crafted bih in my offhand

[glass badger]

is or has anyone else had the issue with raidbots that it seems like 4pc is a dps decrease?

[echo scarab]

im late on radiance crafted weapon, but what stats are we looking best overall with

[ember apex]

haste/mast

[echo scarab]

ty

[ember apex]

thalassian missive of the feverflare

i beleive is the item

[chilly zodiac]

so is weapon/wrists still bis crafted or

[chilly zodiac]

yes thats it

[ember apex]

i took wep but that simmed best for me at the time - once i have enough spark(s) i sim again

[compact knot]

LMAO

bro

its too easy

4 trinkets is insane

[sullen dove]

embells def scale with ilvl no @edgy widget

[proper onyx]

ooze doesn't count

[ember apex]

why didnt u get the alnseer trinket?

[sullen dove]

this is just 4ilvl dif giving 1 diff stat and imn psure 285 arcanoweave is like 44 main stat proc

[ember apex]

@compact knot

[compact knot]

already got on heroic anyways

from my last vault

[ember apex]

ah ok

poggers

[compact knot]

twice in a row is asking for too much

[ember apex]

i still need that item

i wish this vault i could get 2 items and that trinket was one of em

[pine crater]

hey guys whats the best way to sim for m+ rn?

[ember apex]

i would start my M+ sim with my M+ build, so for me that would be mountain thane

what about u?

[coarse nest]

Do you never raid?

[ember apex]

i would end it by analyzing the results and make changes according to the findings found in the sims and making changes if they moved the needle enough to justify a change

[pine crater]

i meant w the raidbot settings

patchwerk?

dungeon slice

or wut

[echo scarab]

am I good to go here or am i forgetting something

[compact knot]

i personally do 1t5m in my st talents for m+ and equip trinkets based off what the good players are using

[ember apex]

if thats the right crests - ur chillen

[echo scarab]

yea

[chilly zodiac]

finishing to save some cons or mats

[compact knot]

fury doesnt really change stat weights much from aoe or st, especially thane

[echo scarab]

anything you recommend? i just have shitty ones rn

[wooden lagoon]

crafting bracers this week is that the plan for 2nd craft?

[coarse nest]

I’m doing cloak

Wrists off first boss

Good stats

[dire vigil]

We're still pretty convincingly taking myth track weapons from the vault even if we crafted, right?

[ember apex]

yes

that's what i did - unless u already have a myth track wep

[dire vigil]

cool cool, just making sure I didn't miss anything

[ember apex]

it's 20 crests to upgrade fully a myth track wep if u already have crafted

[dire vigil]

Nah would go from crafted + heroic paladins mace to myth track + crafted

[ember apex]

then u can shove that btch in ur offhand

[chilly zodiac]

mats

probably wont get anything but might as well try

[ember apex]

then myth track wep in MH / crafted oh

[echo rapids]

The crafted weapon lets you take that mythic weapon to 5/6 for free

Which is yuge

[compact knot]

yeah its big

[hazy lily]

Any plater profile recommendations?

[wheat lantern]

Yooo , im assuming we are taking up a 272 weapon off the rip ?

[warm path]

is there a place to check what hero talents people tend to use on a given fight in raid?

[compact knot]

wcl

check top 100 parses for the spec on that specific boss

[wheat lantern]

Got 272 shoulders/boots/weapon. Feels illegal to do a phone pic and it looks bad

[compact knot]

weapon

[wheat lantern]

Yeah for sure

[compact knot]

craft a myth wep for 80 crests

if you havbent already

[wheat lantern]

I have already yep

[compact knot]

kk

[wheat lantern]

This week we do bracers ?

[compact knot]

then upgrade the offhand to 288

[wheat lantern]

At champ or hero level

[compact knot]

yeah do bracers or cloak

champ

[wheat lantern]

Sweet

[compact knot]

wait

hmm

let me check

you cant craft with champ

i forgot

you just send the 2 sparks normally

[wheat lantern]

Hmmm interesting

[compact knot]

2 sparks is essentially champ ilvl

[wheat lantern]

Ahh gotcha

[compact knot]

on cloak or wrists

[wooden lagoon]

forgot 1st boss has bis eesentialy braceers guess cloak isnt bad to craft

[wheat lantern]

Max my 272 ? Got the crest for it

[warm path]

tyvm

[wheat lantern]

Got a 266 cloak from my last vault bis stats for now

[compact knot]

should only be 20 crests right

[compact knot]

craft 259 wrists with 2 sparks no crests then

[worn mauve]

guys its over, ill be back next season

[compact knot]

holyyy

[wheat lantern]

Youre right only 20 crest

[compact knot]

k thats fine then

[wheat lantern]

Damn bro ouchie

[compact knot]

put the 288 in your mainhand and 285 in your offhand

chilling

[wooden lagoon]

i fucking hate puzzle box so much need to egt somethign else lol

[wheat lantern]

Solid ! Thanks

[sterile stratus]

This is a sign to switch mains what the fuck

[zinc python]

obviously the 2hander is a bigger upgrade now but im not sure ill ever see those gauntlets again

thoughts?

[onyx belfry]

Hey What should i craft after 2h :/ guide says bracers but its not the best if i watch my sim mhm

[oak garden]

I would take the gauntlets even if its less of an upgrade

[hazy lily]

There are many 2handers in the lootpool

[low folio]

if my alt gets 4 piece, does my warrior get to start seeing catalysts drop from contnet

[wheat lantern]

Gauntlets biggg

[low folio]

or is the 4 set unlocking catalyst drops only per character

[mellow crow]

no

[low folio]

dam

[compact knot]

please take the weapon

[mellow crow]

oh boy do i love blizz

[young swan]

u got actual good trinkets

this was my vault

[soft merlin]

not a bad pull

[wooden lagoon]

should catalys them to tier win

[zinc python]

hell no dont do that

[wooden lagoon]

i mean 4 piece right lol

[compact knot]

nah

[soft merlin]

yea and while im at it ill eat a red color crayon

[echo rapids]

What’s the chance on that proc?

[wooden lagoon]

i mean you can get them again in the .5 patch so why not lol

[rancid ledge]

we have been blessed with weapon

[spare flame]

the worst tier piece for us are the gloves

right?

stat wise

[winter shoal]

Gloves you want the seat gloves for the cantrip shadow damage proc

[rancid ledge]

well u just want the seat gloves

[spare flame]

word

ty hmies

homies

[echo rapids]

How big is it?

[rancid ledge]

my guild telling me to take helmet

[compact knot]

they are dumb

the only myth weapon you will see is from paladins for awhile

[hybrid yew]

fellahs, we did it

[winter shoal]

sim it, maybe like 0.5% or so

[rancid ledge]

ty thats what i told them

and even then that weapon only sims .1% better

[vapid vine]

rip 272 Heart of Wind only simming like ~50 dps above 263 Crucible + Glorious Crusaders

[halcyon flare]

crafting wrists this week ? arcano waeve

[compact knot]

cloak or wrists with arcanoweave, only use 2 sparks, dont use crests

[halcyon flare]

fuck

spent crests on wrists

[compact knot]

did you use hero

or myth

[steel shard]

thats heroic sir

[compact knot]

myth wrists arent great but you also probably dont have much to spend them on rn

[coarse nest]

Yeah not worth cresting wrists just craft 259 spark only wrist or cloak

[compact knot]

if you used hero crests on wrists that was a massive mistake

myth crests is still a mistake but not as big

[surreal linden]

could you explain why not full send on myth crests for wrists?

[compact knot]

its the slot with the lowest amount of stats, for example if you spend 20 crests on chest vs 20 on wrists, you gain way more stats on your chest then wrists

[echo rapids]

Wrists just have a low stat budget

[halcyon flare]

i spent myth

[compact knot]

ok thats fine

not the worst

[echo rapids]

It’s fine, long term it’s what you want

[compact knot]

spending none would be optimal but its w/e

unless you have items to upgrade

[halcyon flare]

yeah im not super min maxing this season

[echo rapids]

I got a weapon from vault and have nothing to spend my crests on lol

[compact knot]

which im assuming you arent 5/7 mythic right now

[toxic jewel]

so is arms suddenly the play now

[surreal linden]

true, thanks for answering

[compact knot]

its playable now

[bold bear]

it's gaze here right? I already have 4pc

[steel shard]

No.

[compact knot]

play w/e you want, fury is good on some fights and arms better on some

[toxic jewel]

my push team is liek, YOU HAVE TO PLAY ARMS THEY'RE 20% HIGHER THAN FURY

[steel shard]

tbh i dont think warrior itself is playable

in raid atleast

[echo rapids]

Arms does big aoe but almost tank damage on ST

[compact knot]

this is a lie

warrior is like

top 5 on every fight except crown lmao

[steel shard]

are you looking at boss dam

or the pad damage

[toxic jewel]

Yeah i was gonna say, i'm blasting in raid lol

[compact knot]

who cares about boss damage in a raid with adds that need to die

???

[echo rapids]

For overall, but that’s heavily titled to add damage which declines in value over the tier

[compact knot]

there are no ST fights and the one fight that is most like a ST fight we perform well on

well enough on it

[fossil orbit]

We have to pad to even get close to all the other classes

[echo rapids]

Padding is over used

[compact knot]

zzzzz

"pad"

and its shit that needs to die

[steel shard]

are you like

[echo rapids]

We can do good aoe without losing significant ST

[steel shard]

new to this game khazix

[dapper goblet]

say it louder for the goobers in the back

[compact knot]

no!

[echo rapids]

tell your guildies to spec ST

[toxic jewel]

i mean our burst isnt exactly high, or it doesnt really exist but we sit at the 80-90k dps range and over the fight we are top 5 easy

[steel shard]

sounds like it

[compact knot]

idk who you are

but i mog you

so

[steel shard]

warrior is just good at sniping aoe

to let classes that needs to ramp up not do damage

[compact knot]

ok?

and the raid has aoe sniping on shit that needs to die

why is that bad

[steel shard]

the damage profile is terrible

do you know what a damage profile is?

[olive wraith]

How are we sniping add damage with low burst

[radiant plank]

fury chat cant makeup their minds

[echo rapids]

Fury’s aoe profile is a benefit to the raid as a whole

[dapper goblet]

bad spec

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-movie-drooling-slime-gif-525340425450564005

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384740697965334600/1437299047697219674/Top_1_listener_of_Diddy_-_meme.gif

[compact knot]

@ocean cliff you know why unholy sims the highest in the game

but is shit in this raid?

[young swan]

wrong ping

[spare flame]

LMAO

[zinc python]

i would take the mythic shoulders tbh

[compact knot]

FUCK

i pinged some random ass guy

-aura

[steel shard]

damn

you lost

gg

[echo rapids]

Unholy can drop their aoe for better ST right?

Like a real st improvement

[compact knot]

they can yes

dont think its a ton

but their way of doing aoe

is some dogshit

so they suck in this raid

[dapper goblet]

you change like 2 talents and its barely anything

[compact knot]

except for crown

[echo rapids]

They have a lot of ramp yeah

[dapper goblet]

minus some haste so your magus can hit multiple things

still poop

[compact knot]

and they only are in on crown for grips

"grip not a raid buff"

blow up

[steel shard]

unh is the meta for keys tho

so they can do aoe and good ST

adds just gets blown up to quick

[spare flame]

just got my 4p now, i just send odyns on cd, right?

[coarse nest]

Invalidate adds already

[compact knot]

on most fights yes

[steel shard]

the nibby p incident

where fury got nerfed every week

[dapper goblet]

isnt arms meta in keys

[steel shard]

ehh

[echo rapids]

It’s up so often you can have it for any adds without much planning

[steel shard]

for overall mby

[spare flame]

how much long is it ok to hold odyns for adds?

[steel shard]

for a faster dungeon run

prob not

since it does negative ST dps

[echo rapids]

It’s worth holding for adds

[compact knot]

do you mean in the context in raid or m+, because in raid its always worth to hold

[lunar steeple]

herioc or mythic craft bracers

[compact knot]

neither

2 sparks

no crests

[coarse nest]

For any group that is capable of pulling adds onto boss arms will absolutely carry

[compact knot]

^

[echo rapids]

That is true

[compact knot]

the spec continues to get buffed btw

[bitter palm]

prio damage doubles if there are 2 targets

2 targets + prio

i mean

doesnt scale beyond that

[quick schooner]

Guys this opener is for 6 target + only right .

[bitter palm]

ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc

👍

W rotation blizzard

[echo rapids]

From meat cleaver?

[quick schooner]

coz based on priority on CD thunder clap come after rampage and bloodbath

[coarse nest]

Zoome the screenshot out a little bit so we can see the multi target tab you selected

[quick schooner]

?

[smoky nacelle]

myth bracers today correct?? with embellishment?

[echo rapids]

50% damage to cleave when it already trucks on ST

[bitter palm]

me when reading

[compact knot]

i think its fine if you arent zoning into mythic raid ever

[echo rapids]

Haste mast bracers drop off first boss, I wouldn’t

[coarse nest]

Should just craft cloak

Bracers are practically puggable

[steel shard]

i pugged 2 mythic bosses this week so yea

it´s very easy

[echo rapids]

Voracious that easy?

[steel shard]

yea

[unborn delta]

A guildie pugged chimaerus and pug got hof

[spare flame]

are mythic raid same realm only still?

[viscid finch]

fury still top spec for raid/m+

[echo rapids]

Nope

[spare flame]

sick

[compact knot]

debatable on some fights

[steel shard]

arms beast fury on the council fight

guardians or w/e

the rest is fury

[echo rapids]

It’s still pretty close to thane

[viscid finch]

thats what i was thinking

[unborn delta]

If you have fury stats thane will be better than arms on pallies I think

[echo rapids]

And arms collosus is…an acquired taste

[unborn delta]

like high mast

[coarse nest]

Idk bro I saw walhe posting some sick arms saladbar damage sweeping executes off orbs

[compact knot]

this is not true

arms is just always better

stats are fake

[coarse nest]

^

Real

[echo rapids]

Isn’t cleave a cone though?

[queen coyote]

even with fury stats arms will just be better it will just feel like shit cause u won't crit ever

[compact knot]

fury doesnt even get remotely close to 200k on that boss

[zinc python]

so the mythic seat gauntlets are probably the play over mythic 2hander right?

[coarse nest]

Absolutely

More rare id take that deal

[viscid finch]

are yall running arms in m+

[coarse nest]

I am

Arms owns

[spare flame]

i aint

[compact knot]

think for my 5/7 reclear tonight im playing
imperator: fury
voracius: arms
salhadaar: fury
dragons: arms
chimearus: fury
paladin prog: arms

psure arms is better on voracius and dragons

[unborn delta]

is arms vora just for fun

[compact knot]

nah

[coarse nest]

No it owns Vora

[compact knot]

20% execute buff kinda just pushes it to be better

ngl

[unborn delta]

that came out this week huh

[compact knot]

ye

[unborn delta]

Ig I’ll practice pressing buttons slowly on a dummy tonight

[coarse nest]

It plays exactly like TWW

[compact knot]

colossus plays faster then fury deadass

if you have rage

[coarse nest]

With the addition of reacting to heroic strike

[echo rapids]

I took the weapon but I had a champion offhand

[compact knot]

they always been close but

[unborn delta]

You play colo on vora?

[steel shard]

is not the rage econ bad now

compared to tww

[coarse nest]

Well that is true yeah

Rage sucks

Concept is the same though

[steel shard]

sounds horrible to play

[coarse nest]

Just added another proc

[compact knot]

its fine with a shaman

[bitter palm]

rage is fine in aoe

[unborn delta]

I kinda figured with low haste + crit you will rage starve

[normal yoke]

Halp.... Myth track weapon, or Hero track tier?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aaFvcmGxCnbic5i1Lttqzr

[compact knot]

weapon

[unborn delta]

so not worth playing without that jewelry

[marble stratus]

weapon

[rigid stirrup]

Weapon

[coarse nest]

Weapon

[bitter palm]

will i get heart or guidon in vault

tomorrow

[compact knot]

💣

gaze

[coarse nest]

Glaze*

[bitter palm]

man ion want gaze

[compact knot]

xdd

[tame spire]

Ring (have heroic) or Pants myth have leach (have heroic)

Sims are close

[ember salmon]

hey team if i hadnt done any of the 4 part quest, am i able to complete them all today?

[bitter palm]

gaze on arms kinda ahh

[compact knot]

yeah im hoping i get mythic guidon today

for paladins

but idk

[echo rapids]

The PvP one?

[coarse nest]

Bro if guidon drops in the vault on myth track I’m yoinking that

[ember salmon]

yeah

[echo rapids]

Nope you are fucked

[coarse nest]

Ez arms gaming activate

[compact knot]

is guidon good on ret

[echo rapids]

There’s no catch up

[marble stratus]

How should we be simming right now. The fights are definately not ST

[ember salmon]

fun!

[steel shard]

i had not done any and i just did 3 today

[unborn delta]

With raid bots

[steel shard]

on EU

[compact knot]

fury can sim st and its practically the same as aoe

[bitter palm]

idk robot telling me to run both crit adn haste

[compact knot]

so its fine

[coarse nest]

You sim 1T 5 min Patchwerk anyway

[echo rapids]

Wait really?

[steel shard]

yea

[echo rapids]

Oh well nevermind

I thought I was a week behind

[compact knot]

guidon is pretty good on ret ok

[ember salmon]

can you do all 4?

[coarse nest]

And then swap trinket based on what better players than you are using

[echo rapids]

And couldn’t catch up

[steel shard]

again

i am on EU

[ember salmon]

oh i cant read

[steel shard]

no trumpland servers

not

[echo rapids]

Sounds like you are good

[coarse nest]

Amazing stats

Damn I want that

I’m too mastery pilled

[unborn delta]

They might be better at wow but I farm them in cs

[steel shard]

better at wow?

[unborn delta]

I’m like 18% crit 20% haste 52% mastery on fury

[normal yoke]

Even if I already have a 276 weapon, and only one piece of tier, still?

[steel shard]

liquid prob has more EU players than NA at this point

[unborn delta]

my arms will be homeless

Who are you

[compact knot]

EU also has like

10x the amount of wow players

[coarse nest]

Bro you just need to equip neck and ring from dungeons ez

Crit massive

[ocean ore]

Check any top warrior log, and they're bottom boss damage. Our class damage profile is useless atm

[compact knot]

zzz

more larping

[coarse nest]

Well yeah because for these bosses on prog warrior kills adds

That’s the job

[compact knot]

ding ding ding ding

when you use cds on adds

you dont have cds for the boss

🤯

[coarse nest]

Wild innit

[ocean ore]

Add damage is almost never an issue

[compact knot]

have you

even progged any of these fights on mythic

any of them?

its relevant on ALL of the first 4 of voidspire

[ocean ore]

Only killed imp, but chimmy adds were exploding

[compact knot]

and on chimaerus

not so much chimaerus

[coarse nest]

Wait mb, in a well coordinated prog warrior kills adds

[ocean ore]

I see what you mean and aren't wrong it just feels so pad spec atm

[compact knot]

well

they made a raid

[echo rapids]

Intermission add damage does matter seems like

[compact knot]

full of pad

so

but its pad that needs to die

[ocean ore]

True would just love some more ST

[compact knot]

not shit like nerubar on a boss like rashanan or queen where the little adds on rashanan didnt matter or the webs on ansurek which every class except 1 could break

[steel shard]

did not matter on rashanan?

people where WIPING

when they removed the damage from wclogs

[compact knot]

that was a 1 pull boss

[steel shard]

so they had to put it back in

LOL

[zenith moat]

the hero crests from prey quest counted towards the cap rip

[compact knot]

yeah they fixed it

its so aids

they just have multiple sources of uncapped crests

so its impossible to know what gives capped and uncapped

[lyric ether]

Guess I craft? haha (that would be upgrading mythic shoulders to 5/6, which I wouldn't do til I got heroic shoulders to use heroic crests)

[compact knot]

does anyone have a log where they have the neck from crown with 2x nexus point ring or seat gloves

i wanna see if the neck procs from those

[coarse nest]

I believe it should

But don’t have that data yet

[compact knot]

i also wanna compare it against a spriest or smth

for example

[unborn delta]

I saw u guys playing last night stop larping

[sullen dove]

they have like 5

[zenith moat]

campaign quests giving hero enchanted crest or nah?

[coarse nest]

I was doing adds

[compact knot]

yeah max did a list and its like 5-7 eu players out of a 30 man list

[unborn delta]

6-7

[compact knot]

i purposely didnt type 6

[sullen dove]

57?

like

godking?

[compact knot]

warrior57

wait this neck is worthless

hello?

[rancid ledge]

@compact knot they dont want me to take weapon because they want to give me the weapon when it drops from the raid sob

[compact knot]

or you can have a better mainhand and offhand for progging the raid

then they can give the weapon to a ret or dk

[young swan]

if u arent killing the raid in 3 weeks taking a weapon over gloves is dumb

[steel shard]

on the top of my head. xevi, wallife, wolfdisco, scott, ashine

[compact knot]

they want him to take a helmet

[rancid ledge]

yeah idk the logic is so bad i dont get it, "take helmet because you wont be needing to replace it"

[young swan]

oh wow

[compact knot]

you wont replace the weapon either?

[steel shard]

they have splat as well right

thats 6

[young swan]

i mean the logic still kinda follows

[compact knot]

i mean you can show them a sim

[young swan]

but its way worse

[rancid ledge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cu4n6AjZ7nqGa7KDNuh5oK

[compact knot]

288 weapon in your mh / 285 in your oh

[rancid ledge]

i showed them this

[steel shard]

drenaco is 7

[compact knot]

is gonna be higher

[steel shard]

not seen riku yet

[compact knot]

ok this sim

hold

[steel shard]

from what i know liquid has 7 eu players

prob more

[compact knot]

oh its 289

thats even more

i forgot

[rancid ledge]

ye

[tiny sonnet]

No 4p from vault

[spare steppe]

Do you need to have do the previous 3 weeks of PvP to do the 4th week

[compact knot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bTLCza5JhP45RmFxsyjxMG

weapon is 1.5%, helmet is 1%

[winter shoal]

I think there's catchup

[spare steppe]

Cool I guess I’ll find out what that entails

[compact knot]

helmet drops from fallen king AND paladins

meanwhile weapon only drops from paladins and midnight falls

so the helmet is not only easier to get, but also worse then just picking up a weapon

and its better for prog

and saves you more crests

its literally just better in every scenario

[young swan]

hedgecleaver also quite good as far as weapons go

[compact knot]

^

[charred flint]

Should i just myth crest the next embelishment or save the crests for upgrading chests and other important gear?

[compact knot]

very good weapon to stat around

[compact knot]

my stance is if you wont be stepping into mythic raid you send

because you likely wont have items to spend the crests on anyways

[undone flower]

9

[compact knot]

but if you will 100% kill the first boss of voidspire on mythic, you can hold and greed for those items

[undone flower]

They are 9 in Netherlands

[ocean cliff]

Morning person I've never met hope you got your answer cause idfk 🫣

[compact knot]

SORRY

wrong one

[ocean cliff]

Lmao ❤️

[compact knot]

you both have the same name

ja vs ya

[steel shard]

noo

we dont

[compact knot]

its too similar

[undone flower]

You do have the exact same

[compact knot]

its not the exact same

[ocean cliff]

It is similar

[south kayak]

it is similar but the font is completely different

[steel shard]

i have dont have a j in my name

[compact knot]

cant see the font when u @

[indigo harbor]

is this going to be the end game wrist craft ? if yes are we safe to just do it now ?

[compact knot]

its safe if you arent killing mythic bosses

if you are i would wait until you kill first boss

but still craft with 2x sparks

[indigo harbor]

why is that ?

[south kayak]

fair

[compact knot]

first boss has a good pair of wrists and a cloak

on mythic

so you can take the wrists and craft cloak or take the cloak and craft wrists

if you arent going to be consistently kill bosses on mythic i would slam myth crests probably

[indigo harbor]

i see ty for info

[rancid heron]

is it worth taking this ring? i know occlusion of light is our BiS ring but would it be worth to take this one and try to get set piece with the rings?

[lusty perch]

Should we sim with Potion of Recklessness? It seems to throw off my gear and enchants drastically. Wants way more haste and prefers other trinkets over a hero Puzzle Box. Does the puzzle box just sim weird? I know its supposed to be S tier but Champ Crucible of Erratic Energies and Champ Glorious Cursader's Keepsake sim better

[compact knot]

well considering this ring is lower ilvl then what you can get from a 10 id say no its not worth

i cant see the rest of your vault

[rancid heron]

other than that its a hero chest piece that i could catalyst

[compact knot]

just do light's potential

[rancid heron]

i did not go hard at all last week so its just 2 pieces of hero gear lmao

[compact knot]

oh damn

not even a socket...

[lusty perch]

Simming, in game or both?

[compact knot]

both

[steel shard]

Honestly, every time I watch this race I’m reminded how much harder Classic raiding actually is. There’s just no comparison. Retail bosses are basically dance routines with training wheels while Classic forces you to actually understand your class. You can’t just script your way through in Classic, you actually have to play. Half these Retail raiders wouldn’t last ten minutes in old Naxx without WeakAuras and Max telling them what to do. It’s crazy how far the skill floor has fallen..

[compact knot]

W copypasta

[frail yacht]

GUYS, what is the best way to sim for m+? Dungeon Slice?

[sullen dove]

greekwario spittin

[dapper goblet]

greek has to be related to grom

[sullen dove]

both equally braindead takes about their games

[ocean cliff]

Waow ||based based based based||

[dapper goblet]

hear some crazy shit sometimes

[dapper goblet]

scary boss back in the covid days

afraid your goober warriors/rogues would cleave you down insta mc'd

[gilded smelt]

Apparently one of our raiders got a (bonus) catalyst charge without having 4piece, anyone else had this? I would kill (many (more) m+) if I could get 4piece rn (EU)

[sullen dove]

you should get an extra catalyst on weekly reset

idk if u mean it just spawned in one before then tho

not sure why that would happen

[gilded smelt]

He had 1 piece and got 3 charges so he could go 4piece

[steel shard]

yea

thats normal

you get it from the achiev