fury

[sullen dove]

yea ik

im saying its baby juice

2 items from mythic

or 1 from mythic and heroic necklace from alleria

or i guess now heroic ring from lura next week

but like the stars have to omega align

[finite oxide]

How can i see that i have 100 fury

[sullen dove]

i tried to do it on my lock and guy wouldnt take 200k for pants he won

gg

[next mica]

you mean in game or on sims?

[finite oxide]

In game

I also press it when available

I have hp and fury in top left but there is no number

[next mica]

dont worry about the number

[finite oxide]

100 is full

[next mica]

no 130 is full

[finite oxide]

Im not max lvl yet

Says a 100 for me atm

[sudden tusk]

ring is def juice

[sullen dove]

its just crazy how im actually 2 item drops away in the game

from my main gaining like +1.5 average ilvl next week more than i would have

the thought eats away at me

[next mica]

i wouldent worry about pressing my button right then

[sudden tusk]

cant wait til my vault is Gaze + voidclaw gauntlets

and i have to be sad

[sullen dove]

i mean real shit

pickin those gauntlets lol

maybe idk

surely coin system not cringe

but like figure u just coin chimaerus if u have to

way smaller loot pool

1/4

would be upset tho i already sent gloves to 276 on the basis that they wont be replaced even with 289 tier gloves

so better not see those for a couple weeks at least

[sudden tusk]

yeah i just sent for prog tbh

i dont have the neck so they arent that big for me atm

could also get one of those void baragge rings in vault too

[sullen dove]

yea i mean tbf the neck is only like an added 0.3-0.4 dmg

the nexus 2set doesnt contribute much more to the necklace but it actually just does kinda insane dam on its own

like .6-.8

as good as or better than gloves/neck combined

[candid ravine]

In reck and aoe situation should i use thunder clap > rampage and skip the bb/bt ? or use bb/bt whenever possible ?

[sudden tusk]

6+ you tbast and clap til the little adds are dead then BB

[small tinsel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nQDFw1hrsTBYDwjkKJLBaM

been simming my gear for M+ and its telling me this is the optimal setup but im confused as i have more haste than mastery is that correct ?

[sudden tusk]

or if you want more prio damage you weave Tclap>BB>Tclap>Rampage if you are lower on rrage

[candid ravine]

ty madox

[maiden rampart]

there is any guide where i can see the rotation? im just cliking random without knowing whats priority

[sudden tusk]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[sudden tusk]

idk the robot still wants me to have more haste so not sure. However Simming M+ is weird for us since all of our damage extends from our single target up to 5 targets

And at 6+ is when you tclap pretty consistantly

but with how many situations M+ has its basically impossible to sim it, so focusing on ST for bosses is generally the way to go

[tight idol]

For mountian thane is that macro you made worth using still for rend or just use raging blow

[sudden tusk]

just have RB on your bar. anytime you would hit RB hit Tclap first

[tight idol]

i was just wondering if rends initial dmg was better then rb

[sudden tusk]

Macro loses value if reapply rend too much

rends initial is around 9k for me rn i think but RB is like 12k

half the reason you use that maco/rend on slayer is becuase you simply run out of RB charges if you press it a lot

[tight idol]

true

[sudden tusk]

becuase we are all in on BT

[tight idol]

thanks

[small tinsel]

would people say these rough stat values are about right for mountain thane M+ ? these are without flasks etc

[sudden tusk]

could prob use more mastery but doesnt look bad

can always run a droptomizer and see what other items you might be able to farm are worth

[tawny wing]

Hello friends trying to gear up afury from fresh 90 to as high as poss before reset. To confirm is it still recommended to set loot spec to arms?

[sudden tusk]

they changed it so you dont have to any more, but fury and arms are basically the same thing now

im still set as arms as a habit

[random shadow]

its the ptsd

[tawny wing]

Ah Ok thanks. Open world stuff as fresh 90 is rough without much healing

[small tinsel]

thanks for the response much appreciated ive just doee a big move around based on what raidbots told me but before i was running like 1k mastery and 800 haste

[sudden tusk]

if anything id focus on Simming ST and just following what the robot says

[random shadow]

robot sims bracers and cloak at tbhe 285 crafted level about 5 dps apart, can i just craft myth cloak eventually instead of bracers since m+ drops our prefer stats for bracers

[sudden tusk]

bracers also drop at mythic off first boss

i was probably going go craft cloak so that item doesnt go to waste

[random shadow]

guild im in isnt really doing mythic, gonna try but they aint like that till later in the season unfort

[sudden tusk]

but bracer or cloak slots dont matter and are pretty interchangable

[random shadow]

was thinkign cloak since there isnt a haste mastery cloak from m+, kinda shame for neck as well

[sudden tusk]

mas crit cloak from skyreach is good

haste crit also good

[cinder sleet]

Hi, hoping someone can help! I've read conflicting information on whether as MT, I should be prioritising bloodbath or thunder blast during my avatar windows?

[sudden tusk]

6 or more tclap

5 or less BB

[cinder sleet]

Cheers!

[obtuse karma]

i thought it was 7?
And what about outside of avatar/reck, do we spam tclap at 6+ targs?

[opaque nova]

why is optimal fury rota so confusing

[sudden tusk]

ah more then 6 missread

[opaque nova]

during cooldowns, out of cooldowns, 6 targets or more, 5 targets or less

[obtuse karma]

ye confusing af

[fading sky]

Bcoz

Its not a rotation

Its a prip list

[opaque nova]

I have no idea what i'm doing yet im parsing 95+

[sudden tusk]

well the also difference between clapping at 6 and clapping at 7 is probably very very small

[fading sky]

Proo*

[opaque nova]

so I guess the others also have no iidea

[sudden tusk]

that and prio damage is still important

[fading sky]

95 in raid or m+?

[opaque nova]

in raid

[sudden tusk]

for example i parsed a 50 on nexus king

[fading sky]

Mythic?

[sudden tusk]

but im rank 3 for boss damage

[opaque nova]

nah normal and heroic

[sudden tusk]

boss damage is what matters

[fading sky]

Yup

So u did well

[obtuse karma]

So do we spam tclap outside of reck/avatar on 7+ targs or nah?

[sudden tusk]

there is so much potential pad in this raid that boss damage is a better metric

[fading sky]

Yup

[opaque nova]

honestly I made my own prio kinda

[sudden tusk]

Well outside of CDs we cant spam tclap

[opaque nova]

shit on wowhead is too muuch

[fading sky]

Lel

[sudden tusk]

becuase avatar is whats reducing its cd

[obtuse karma]

Press it every 4secs i mean?

[fading sky]

Wowhead is quite simple wdym

[tiny seal]

[sudden tusk]

yeah you just press it when its up in aoe

[fading sky]

If +6 clap

[opaque nova]

wdym simple there are 4 sections

[obtuse karma]

All this tclap spam isnt even on wowhead

I only found out about the tclap from a streamer

[tiny seal]

you get a feel for it quick

for st and mt

[sudden tusk]

because even in execute phase of a mob you can still Tclap/exe/bt/ramp/ tclap

[opaque nova]

ST in cooldowns, ST out of cooldowns, MT in cooldowns, MT out of cooldowns

im not a professor

ill just not overcap rage and press thunderblast when its glowing

[mossy pelican]

Yea you can just play the game

[fading sky]

Its there wdym

Its super simple prio list

[obtuse karma]

but hes not asking if he can play the game or not

[mossy pelican]

He’s not asking anything i thought

[opaque nova]

yeah im not I just dislike that theres 4 different scenarios I have to pay attention to

[fading sky]

He is claiming fury is hard😆

[tiny seal]

inside cds you cap rage really quick so its good pressing rampage more then usual with our apex talents aswell

[fading sky]

Theres 2 scenarios

In and out of cds

Ofc st and aoe changes things

Always clappin is good for overalø, but realisticly u should prob just keep prio for 6 targets 2 kilø biggest mob

[opaque nova]

so clap every other global during cds

[candid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTsaJRai24 furry warrior

[fading sky]

If above 6 targets

[opaque nova]

kinda wish thunderclap was just a horrible button thats only pressed for ww stacks

would make life simpler

[honest trail]

Sad there's nothing happening in both situations

[fading sky]

Go fdk or uhdk

A tiny bit of skill expression is good

[opaque nova]

im going back to demo

shits chill

nothing ever changes

[honest trail]

Fury Thane hardest spec in Midnight season 1, don't @ me

[quiet osprey]

yes but you need to slam your keys when u play fury anyway

[opaque nova]

also I feel like im spending more time in que on war

[honest trail]

Eh, fair

Tho there are way faster specs

Like Outlaw, Fire mage

[spare steppe]

All dps will feel that way

[spring pumice]

@honest trail almost all classes are hitting a button every gcd, with haste he changes a bit, but they are all close

[tawny wing]

Does anyone know if you get that dupe loot bug thing is your character just screwed for now? Fresh 90 Fury has done 2 prey and 2 delves and so far has 4x the same identical trinket...

[warm crag]

doesnt that only affect delves and preys

juts do anything else

[spring pumice]

I always get the weapon on nightmare

[tawny wing]

Im fresh off the 90 boat though so not going to be able to get into mythics or anything else for gear until I use those to gear up surely

[iron holly]

is there a reason not to macro OF into my CDs or can I send it?

[sullen dove]

cuz its a very different cooldown timer than your main cooldowns and there are plenty of occasions where you don’t odyns the moment you hit recklessness anyway

[iron holly]

I would also have it separate

[sullen dove]

yea I mean can just have it separate and hit idk

If u want to I guess ok but like raid fights where u save odyns for adds but cooldown for boss dmg u just odyns boss for no reason

[sudden tusk]

so i just reflected it did 400k on a 10

[dry ether]

you guys got any tips for puzzle box in raids? finally got a good one and its simming by far the most dps, insane mastery when its active but it feels so awkward to use

time it with every other reck ?

[iron holly]

this is the kind of asnwer I was looking for, ty!

[valid pulsar]

guys is it worth speccing arms for vanguards heroic i just have 10% crit no arms gear

[gaunt loom]

i try to follow the wowhead rotation as closely as possible, but in real gameplay, there are a lot of parts that get confusing

thane rotation is pretty confusing

my rage keeps building up—do i really need to prioritize bb? when i need real burst damage, it feels like i could just use rampage and tb instead

[bitter palm]

ye its huge

[gaunt loom]

i try to only use tc when there are at least 7 targets, but the number of targets keeps changing and it completely messes with my head. sometimes when there are 2–5 targets, i end up pressing tc without realizing it even though bb or bt are available, and sometimes i even hit execute instead. it’s really hard

also when my rage is at around 95–99, it feels really awkward. i end up debating whether to press bb or rampage, but i usually just go for another rampage to spend it cleanly

[tawny wing]

Hm so if I'm set to Arms i get only the same trinket and if set to Fury I get only the same wep

[bronze elm]

can someone explain why the helm/shoulder/feet enchants on bis lists are what they are?

[brittle crow]

cuz they're good?

[marble grove]

Guys what is the good way to sim for m+? Dungeon Slice?

[bronze elm]

k but why leech over the others for helm for example? And why no speed ench at all? Bit confused cause I see uh dks wants speed for some reason

[brittle crow]

because dk is a wheelchair class

we have charge and leap and interpose and 30% movespeed baked into our kit

u don't need more they speak out against greed in the Bible

[spare steppe]

Just need some leech to have it, pretty sure helm gives the 2nd most?

[sullen dove]

no cap think dk horse mogs us

if we have things to charge to sure but run backs to bosses after a wipe we're pretty ass at

1 leap every 30s gg

i think the speed shoulder enchant is maybe worth

[bronze elm]

yea, I guess the logic is just dont wipe

[sullen dove]

thats like 60 speed which is like 6% ms

but i compared to helm speed ench which was like 20

and said fuck allat lol

[bronze elm]

but dk horse mogs us to shit, tbh feeling way more wheelchair than dk

[brittle crow]

my ass WILL sit on the ground and wait for a res in raid

idgaf

[native wadi]

Avoidance is king specially at the beginning with less hp pool in my opinion

I enchanted full avoidance

Mythic voralius already hits like a truck

[sullen dove]

eh i mean avoidance is like for saving you from high dmg/1shots but fury p tanky anyway

dont think that important or significant, some bosses also just flat out ignore avoidance

[radiant plank]

you wont catch me going avoidance on fury of all specs

[sullen dove]

so defensively usually prefer leech

[brittle crow]

and in dungeons i can usually keep up with ferals pretty easily .. u leap ahead, then u interpose, then ur at boss

[sullen dove]

cuz u at least very noticably see its value

even if its not crazy

value goes up in aoe too

but its prolly p insignificant which u choose

[spare steppe]

I go leech to help my prot set for keys

[sullen dove]

its like 5% more to a tert

except speed shoulders that things op

6% movespeed 1 enchant poggers

more than our talent

[thick iron]

Damn sims are valuing crit a lot this season

[wicked flicker]

in thane ST is bloodthirst or thunder clap priority?

[hollow leaf]

bloodthirst

you rarely ever press a naked thunder clap on st

thunderblast on the other hand is above bloodthirst

[blissful hound]

Its not

[hollow leaf]

should've specified with 2 stacks

[spare steppe]

Isn’t execute also above TB with 1 charge?

[valid pulsar]

whats the best order doing the 3 guys in p1 cosmos ? does it matter

[grim prism]

what's the difference between eyes of the eagle enchant ranks?

both say 1%

[valid pulsar]

morium, vorelius and demiar i mean

[hollow leaf]

yes

[opaque nova]

I did 145k overall in a 10

I guess clapping does work

its actually kinda braindead fun

rampage clap rampage clap

[compact knot]

demiar first

[hollow leaf]

yep that's the thane aoe rotation

[compact knot]

other 2 dont really matter

just do demiar first

[opaque nova]

I can focus on interrupts when I just clap and rampage

[junior gale]

Yeah speed enchants are always bis especially as a melee

[sullen dove]

just that one

psure helmet and boot are terrible

like 2% each

but shoulder op

[junior gale]

Indeed. I miss my speed gem too from TWW

That shit owned

Didn't stack with fury speed from enrage but was great for arms

[south kayak]

Legion speed buffs were crazy

Agrammar's Stride

My beloved

[celest bear]

Can somebody hold my hand and explain the rotation in aoe and single because i am just underperforming no idea why gear is good must be the hands

[fading sky]

Www.wowhead.com

Rly shows it all

[clever path]

Just a have a quick question, in raid for the MT build. Prio for bosses are rampage > bt > thunderclap > raging blow, and use execute as filler? (from what I've been told?)

[iron portal]

Battle Cry

The food that wasnt nerfed

Oh boy I loved my speed sets

[opaque nova]

anyone else refusing to use puzzlebox because of how clumsy it is

sims like 200 dps better but hell nah

[humble plover]

i dont use it cause its a 3rd of the trinket it used to be

[modest condor]

i dont use it because i dont have it

[south kayak]

lmao

[humble plover]

hes so real for that

[south kayak]

I dont use it because i don't play the game

[iron portal]

I dont use it cause I dont have it (Midnight)

[south kayak]

I don't have the game either

[honest trail]

I use it and I hate it

[rain sparrow]

Had a fairly rude but possibly right warlock yell at me I should be on Single button. My question is how bad is it? I've never looked at it before.

[warm crag]

it says somewhere on the wowhead guide but it should be fine for most things you'd want to do

[rain sparrow]

Thank you. Guess I'll at least try it.

[peak drift]

quick question. why should we only rampage with 100 rage?

[edgy oasis]

why the hell is Thane top parse on imperator Averzian Mythic...

[radiant plank]

adds

[edgy oasis]

im ok with it and i appreicate its because it deals more dmg. im just wondering if its right for my ilvl...

like is thane good for the 0.1% parsers

[radiant plank]

Thane is good

[edgy oasis]

fair enough

[radiant plank]

if your guild lets you hit the adds

in peace

[peak drift]

im thaning cuz my war is a dwarf...

[tardy lark]

man i wish i could game that way

[peak drift]

also reck and avatar line up more nicely than reck and bs

[radiant plank]

Whats stopping u..

[tardy lark]

i dont have fun

🙁

[peak drift]

probably the pressure of optimizing

or the mindset of "they will not allow me too"

dun worry i suffer in prey for that

[radiant plank]

Is it a mindset if its reality

[olive wraith]

Maybe because they’re the same cooldown with the same cdr

[peak drift]

yes because for 90% of the game you can play both

you just need to play with the right people.

[junior gale]

While you are there if you got the time look at the priority list for buttons and practice on dummies before conceding and swapping to one button.

[echo rapids]

If your guild had a team/progression focus/mindset, it’s worth talking about damage profiles

Some specs can drop their aoe and gain significant amounts of single target - fury isn’t one of them

[peak drift]

so uh may i know why we should only rampage at or above 100 rage?`i dont really get why

👉 👈

[young swan]

because theres no difference between a rampage at 80 rage and 100 rage and our primary concern is maintaining enrage

[echo rapids]

Rage is a zero sum game

Rampaging at 80 doesn’t give you more enrage

[wispy bridge]

Basically you always wanna keep BT on cd while not overcapping rage, so you rampage just a bit below the rage cap or before your enrage expires (at least thats how I understand it, correct me if I am wrong)

[peak drift]

gotcha

[young swan]

yeah basically as long as you're below 130 rage you can keep pressing the buttons that you want to keep on CD

[echo rapids]

If you rampage at 80 every time you will find yourself 1) dropping enrage and 2) having to dip to the bottom shitty part of your rotation more often

The good example is imagine you are at 80 rage with blood thirst ready

[icy whale]

can i spend all my champion crest or would it be a waste?

[echo rapids]

You can BT -> Ramp or Ramp -> BT

[wispy bridge]

Just spend em, champion crests dont really matter anymore

[echo rapids]

the first example will result in blood thirst coming back sooner for no loss

[hollow leaf]

feel free to send

can send hero stuff as well on 3/6 stuff

[echo rapids]

Heroic gaze and a heroic 2 handed, must be nice!

[icy whale]

:)

[keen kindle]

Bro is already juices out of his mind

[echo rapids]

I think 3 or 4 of the dungeons have a 2 hander but you wouldn’t know it from my luck

[keen kindle]

The 2h drop rate is always fury's biggest op

[echo rapids]

Doesn’t help that it’s always from a later raid boss

[eternal canopy]

is it cause im misplaying or does thane have these like awkward rare moments where everything is on cd

[echo rapids]

Or at least feels that way

[wispy bridge]

I get those sometimes as well

[echo rapids]

Very rare imo, feels worse as slayer

[eternal canopy]

like in theory i could bind ww

but it feels awkward

[sullen dove]

keepin it a buck 50 would rather not hit anything

but probably bind rend first if it comes to that

[eternal canopy]

true

[sullen dove]

imagine it does more than a ww

but yea i think that should be like extremely uncommon

[eternal canopy]

i stopped after CE last tier and just came back

[sullen dove]

maybe once possibly twice in a 5min sim

[echo rapids]

Make sure you are tent wrecking throw?

[peak drift]

so its just easier to keep rage up when ur rampage at 100 or above

[eternal canopy]

so like after 7 months coming back and i dont have a button to throw

is weird

[peak drift]

less about the damage more about the buff

gotcha

[sullen dove]

enrage particularly yea

[wispy bridge]

I mean you also get more dmg by optimizing enrage

[eternal canopy]

how is arms

[wispy bridge]

[peak drift]

up in arms

[eternal canopy]

armless?

rip

[echo rapids]

Its damage too because it means you are not delaying bloodthirsts

[peak drift]

uh

okay...that gets too deep for me

[brittle mauve]

Very rare for me and sometimes I deviated from the conditions on when to press ramp and like these guys are saying it's sub optimal and you pay a price

[sudden heath]

Sealed Chaos Urn, is it just me or is this thing garbage?

[eternal canopy]

annoying

[brittle mauve]

I need to stop sending ramp under 100 when I have other buttons to press

[peak drift]

i wish enrage would go beyond 5 seconds...cap it at 8 or 10...

(nigh prey is so annoying to do=)

[sullen dove]

oh mythic boes arent purchasable yet are they shid

forgot about that

[hollow leaf]

they are not

[bright blaze]

Just got up to 90 lvl, what is the most fun way for gearing?

Prey, delves or maybe normal dungeons?

[sullen dove]

fun pretty subjective

but you can do the first 2 by yourself

normal dungeons very not good

but preys/delves are fine

if ur like 190 ilvl tho would say just do a round of gear-dropping world quests

[hollow leaf]

my tanks are moving saladhaar so much I can barely touch him

[hollow leaf]

[sudden tusk]

wooo

[peak drift]

prey really is zero fun as fury

every mechanic is just a fuck you to you, since you have zero range stuff...

[strange drift]

idk if it still happens but i had the kill you add fall off the fucking map when u mounted and it spawned at that time and killed me few tiems in harandir

i think they fixed it but holy fuck was it annoying xD

[peak drift]

i mean hard is super fun you are challenged

nightmare is just fucking obnoxious and i want to kill astalor more than the damn target

[strange drift]

agreed

also give me ER base back blizzard

[undone flower]

I do them in war mode

[eager thorn]

its not rlly that bad

just storm bolt the fixate add and leap to anything to kill

[undone flower]

Ppl are malicious when they see you are ganked by your prey

[radiant plank]

Critters counting for the kill is so funny

[hollow leaf]

wish they were easier to find though

but regardless the bleed doesn't really do that much

[radiant plank]

can just pick 2nd wind and win

[hollow leaf]

ye

[jade fjord]

is it worth grinding the nexus points ring set or do we want to craft sth on rings?

[tame holly]

Alright my fellow zug zuggers. Question about Mountain Thane ST opener. I’ve seen MT openers on various websites and guide videos. What’s the ST Mountain Thane opener? I’ve been analyzing logs and thought I could get a better straight forward answer here. Much appreciated zug zuggers!

[hollow leaf]

sim it

for me it's about a .2% increase

so cba

[uncut zodiac]

hello, can any1 tell me why im doing so low dps ?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/A6GXNfkH4jqZaxr9?fight=54&type=damage-done&source=282

[hollow leaf]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/A6GXNfkH4jqZaxr9/54/282
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/A6GXNfkH4jqZaxr9?fight=54&type=damage-done&source=282&modal=compare&comparesearchplayer=282&comparesearch=2.10.2.28

Great places to start is going through wowanalyzer and the compare tool in warcraftlogs

look at maximizing uptime and fixing the mistakes mentioned in the rotation section

[orchid iron]

Is wow analyzer updated for fury again? I know it wasnt for like several years at one point

[hollow leaf]

yeah it's updated

[orchid iron]

praise be

[hollow leaf]

at least it didn't give me a warning about partial support when I plugged in the log

[orchid iron]

I lvoed that website

[hollow leaf]

but the prio list and all of that looks correct

[orchid iron]

does it do m+ logs? i imagine not but im not raiding anymore, I could run LFR I guess

[hollow leaf]

not sure, can give it a try

seems to work fine

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/Q1xzXrWM9NajfhV7/2/4

this is from one of my arms keys when I was practicing

I don't see anything about heroic strike though

probably take with a grain of salt but I'm sure it'd work fine to get started

[cedar crescent]

WW and TC, does it actually hit mobs behind me?

Tried it and it looked like it does

[hollow leaf]

well it's an aoe around you so it should

if you wanna confirm you can face away from a dummy and press them

[iron portal]

It does

[tame holly]

Alright my fellow zug zuggers. Question about Mountain Thane ST opener. I’ve seen MT openers on various websites and guide videos. What’s the ST Mountain Thane opener? I’ve been analyzing logs and thought I could get a better straight forward answer here. Much appreciated zug zuggers!

BUMP, TY gamers

[hollow leaf]

charge > odyns > ava + reck > ramp > tb > bb > tb > rotation I'd assume

[alpine palm]

Charge, Odyn's, Reck/Ava, TB, Rampage, BB, Rampage

[hybrid yew]

why open with odyn's if not enraged?

[winter shoal]

odyn's enrages you

[sudden tusk]

odyns auto enrages you

[hybrid yew]

oh

well then

i have some reading to do

[queen sleet]

i lost track, do we get another cata charge on next reset?

[orchid iron]

yes

[uncut zodiac]

thx i didint knew this tool

ill try to use it

[glad hazel]

What is doing all of dmg in AOE and ST these days? Is it all in BT?

[junior dock]

what ilvl are the weapons you get from the 2500 conquest achiv ?

[lyric steeple]

Is there a macro for pummel that it will just auto select whatever mob is around me that needs to be interrupted?

[glossy lichen]

at higher target counts are we meant to prio thunderblast and thunderclap over bloodthirst/bloodbath?

[safe orbit]

fury still better for m+ after tunning?

[smoky vale]

both are good

[lunar steeple]

why odyns before avatar?

[frozen portal]

can we not cleave on dragons?

reccomended build is thane for them?

[lunar steeple]

not till later in the fight when they are closer

together

[frozen portal]

roger

so ST kerblast til then

[sullen dove]

Still no big add pad time

[lunar steeple]

well generally you are lining your thane cds up with adds

[hollow leaf]

at high target counts the aoe rotation is basically cycling clap every other gcd

clap > ramp > clap > ramp > clap > ramp for instance

[glossy lichen]

Am I missing that on the wowhead guide? I can't find where it says that -.-

[hollow leaf]

assumes you're inside avatar

[glossy lichen]

Was that recently added O.o

i swear that wasn't there recently

[hollow leaf]

don't think so?

[remote bobcat]

ur blind then

[glossy lichen]

ah well - while I'm here is arms for sure better at some keys?

[remote bobcat]

[glossy lichen]

Thanks @remote bobcat ! 😄

[hollow leaf]

the damage of it doesn't really matter, you'd rather spend the gcd inside avatar on other stuff

[glossy lichen]

I love asking questions in the discords

[remote bobcat]

i wish arms was good

unironicalöly

[hollow leaf]

arms is fine

[tardy lark]

odyns just sort of replaces the BT you'd cast otherwise

[remote bobcat]

Arms can top +10 keys but put arms in a +15 and you wanna cry

[hollow leaf]

outdpses fury on aoe and not that far behind on st after the buffs

[hollow leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Pjn79MEyc

[remote bobcat]

love biz

he makes it work

[hollow leaf]

biz my goat

[glossy lichen]

So on the larger aoe dungeons i guess it's okay

[tardy lark]

cleave fucks

[glossy lichen]

The ST is so bad tho -.-

[hollow leaf]

it's not that bad

[tardy lark]

walk up to boss without CDs and your spec does 40k ST

[hollow leaf]

any spec without cds will do kinda bad st

fury just always has cds

[indigo sigil]

is good i think ?

[supple glen]

bro ive been stuck on 263 for days, its joever, noone invites anymore

[tardy lark]

arms does as well, but ravager is dog, wb activating cleave is dog, avatar is there i guess

[supple glen]

buff warrior player loot chances

[tardy lark]

no overpower procs means you straight up do 0

[remote bobcat]

Its not due to being french, changing language to english adds 20k dps

[indigo sigil]

SACCAGER

[undone flower]

grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsgesetz

[safe carbon]

is glorious crusader's keepsake another bis trinket option?

trying to sim gaze or heart of ancient hunger against it and they barely give me 800 more dps, that's champ ilvl vs hero ilvl

[remote bobcat]

[icy whale]

someone in raid just sold mythic boe chest for 250k and didnt ask me...

bruh

[frozen portal]

thane or slayer for cosmos?

[hollow leaf]

both work, I prefer thane

[tardy lark]

slayer is cringe

[sullen dove]

That the haste on use

it’s probably p good

just need to make sure don’t accidentally mess up potion of reck if u use it

[untold heart]

I posted in the log review channel. Is anyone able to review my log please?

[safe carbon]

think it gives me mast tbh

[mossy fox]

🙂

[safe carbon]

it is just baffling how it's better than 660 crit

maybe more procs per minute? no idea

[icy whale]

dh insta sold this for 250k im sad

[weary plume]

puzzle box is a 500 dps upgrade for me but i kinda suck at remembering to use it and i find it awkward in m+. Worth it to just stick with light's company guidon so i can not have to think about it? Or bite bullet and get gooder

[bright ledge]

is there an addon to apply to groups with clicking it like in TWW?

[bright ledge]

put in a place visible to you like your cds, it really sucks but is free DPS ?

[winter shoal]

Premade group filter

[astral path]

Is solarflare actually good?

I mean ig I do need more crit

[weary plume]

ya i am tracking it, i just find myself missing it whilst chaining pulls at times. I think I'll just get better at it since i resimmed on multi target its just way better than anything

[unborn delta]

i would recommend swapping off puzzle box to alnseer + ancient hunger

[weary plume]

if i had alnseer i def would

[quartz knot]

Is there a resource on here or a website to show which specs are recommended for each raid boss

Slayer or MT

[daring laurel]

warcraft logs shows the more popular one

[quartz knot]

Okay thank you

[winter shoal]

Wowhead guide also has specs for each fight. Top logs for most fights will just be whatever is best at padding on adds, which is more damage but isn't always more useful

[upbeat plume]

Thane is overall the pick with a couple fights going to slayer, the ST difference is fairly minimal compared to what it was in the past so its kind of a pick your poison tier

[honest trail]

Slayer forever

[mortal ivy]

Look at the uptime % on the sim to its proc what does it say? Compare to the crit one?

[tropic mantle]

ive seen on some prio lists that i should be spamming thunder clap on CD when i have avatar/reck active and i was wondering if that means i should literally be pressing Thunderclap every other GCD (which is basically what the CD is during avatar) and if thats the case does that only apply when i have both avatar and reck or should i keep doing it until avatar runs out?

and also i think this is only the case with more than 6 targets? any help would be great thanks!

[hoary vortex]

anyone got any tips for the first boss on Skyreach? i feel like its impossible for melee. Only boss im struggling with this season

[spare steppe]

Are you struggling with the tornados?

[hoary vortex]

yeah pretty much its annoying af

[spare steppe]

It’s important to realize that they are independently going in a circle, not random. Makes predicting easier. The tank should also be dragging the boss to an edge where you’ll deal with them less frequently

[hoary vortex]

is there a spot i should drop my circle?

[small tinsel]

Hey all been playing with my dps trying to improve and came across wow analyser

Is the any way to basically get my damage on even dummies and somehow log it and have it tell me where I messed up ?

[remote bobcat]

yea you activate combat logging, then you go to a training dummy (or multiple for aoe), you clap em for a set amount of time, usually like 3 or 5 mins, then you drop combat, you end the combat log, you upload it to warcraftlogs and then paste that log into wowa

[small tinsel]

Legend Thankyou

I’m kinda new and had an issue figuring out how to log 🤣

However will need give that another go as how hard can it really be I’ll find a video thanks

[slim coral]

Far out

Otherwise you’re gonna clog up melee space

[remote bobcat]

[smoky vale]

[icy whale]

are you supposed to craft 285 or lower wrists next week?

[astral folio]

i have 37 % mastery and 22 % haste. should i flask haste or mastery^

[bitter palm]

[slim coral]

That’s a sim question

Sometimes you might gain more from upgrading a trinket

If you get a myth one

[fluid terrace]

Gonna create a Fury Warrior dad rock Playlist for yall

[floral frigate]

make sure its got plenty of breaking benjamin and Pretty Reckless

[icy whale]

yeaah but you can upgrade both vault and wrist

just curious if its smart to spend on wrist or wait for chest/shoulder/leg/weapon first

since you only get ~100 per week

[modest condor]

craft lower ilvl wrist and spend myth crests on bigger budget pieces

[indigo arch]

idk who thought the melee mobs near the end of algethar needed an aoe that needs lining, but fuck them

[bitter palm]

whoever came up with all the algethar changes deserves to get shot

[indigo arch]

AMEN

[bitter palm]

i never got so tilted in M+ before

last boss is so fucking bad

trash is just evil

[indigo arch]

let's change those same melee mobs to also create giant fuckyou swirls while trying to los from said mobs

[bitter palm]

why do lashers ignore armor

???????

[indigo arch]

"We want to reduce boltslop"

[bitter palm]

they turned the dungeon into literal cancer

[indigo arch]

proceeds to do nothing about any of AA's casters

[bitter palm]

the manafiends are evil

they can target the same person with the thingy cast

and u get overlapped and its gg

[lilac osprey]

why the fuck did the aoe circles need to chase you

[indigo arch]

Either kick manafiends and live, or kick the books and someone eats a perma afk once ccs are cd

[bitter palm]

we are alternating kicks and cc but the 3 pack pull is legit not doable in a 16

[indigo arch]

Rest of the dungeon is tolerable, but the moment bird boss is done, lmao

Well, besides plant boss pull being.....unflattering to fury

[bitter palm]

idk i only play colo arms

but the dungeon is mega cringe either way

i ended tree boss at 300k xddd

wb and demo just align perfectly

[indigo arch]

I'm honestly considering if arms would be better for AA

[bitter palm]

idk i think arms is better in all dungeons

[indigo arch]

haven't touched it since df s2

err, tww s2*

[bitter palm]

the infinite aoe dungeon isnt even infinite aoe cause blizzard is cringe

pit is the infinite aoe dungeon now

pit is good

2nd boss seat as colo arms is something else man

250k

on it

its so peak

arms on 3t is unreal

[feral ivy]

this m+ is a joke everything is so easy

already ++10's now

before full heroic gear is wild

[bitter palm]

go do algethar 17

[feral ivy]

im chill i just get 3k and stop i dont have the drive to push keys atm

i barely want to get CE this season

[bitter palm]

i dont see the issue with 10s being free

lets more people play the game

[feral ivy]

this early tad to easy

i mean most ppl who are CE gets full 10's but now its EVERYONE getting 10's week 1

week 1 is just to fast imo

[bitter palm]

why does it matter tho

[feral ivy]

because it just makes the season go to fast

[bitter palm]

it doesnt affect people who wouldve done 10s anyway

if anything its good for them too

[vapid vine]

I like it, got my +10s done for the week and got to touch grass xD

[bitter palm]

makes more sense to blame m0s preys delved

we are way more geared than usual

and the fact that heroic raid launched a week before m+

[bitter palm]

ye

its also good if u have shitter alts

u dont need to do fuck ass 7s or w/e

[feral ivy]

the only thing i do like is this season is easy to gear alts and play more alts now

no more crest its gold

[bitter palm]

idk why you have such a negative stance on 10s being easy. the season being fast only matters to people who would do 10s regardless of the difficulty

so far the only thing i dislike is algethar

cancer dungeon

they ruined it so bad

i would prolly hate mythic splits if i was raiding this tier

idk how is march even tuneable

when top guilds are running mythic splits

[scenic eagle]

I've been seeing Furry topping ret paladins a lot -- new player torn between furry and ret. Can anyone tell me why furry is the better pick? Is it forgoign the utility for consistent and higher damage?

[lusty jungle]

furry tops all bottoms

[analog remnant]

Furry con is next door. This is for fury warriors

[lusty jungle]

oh mb

[chilly zodiac]

ret is better than fury, ret just has to be played better than fury to be better

[bitter palm]

warriors have good util and u lose nothing to take it

[scenic eagle]

Ahhh and a lot of ret peeps arent that good so that makes sense

[chilly zodiac]

good util like... a 12% temp health boost?

vs good util like being able to negate multiple mechanics

[restive peak]

10s being easy is good for the games health

Noone feels left behind brutally, alts will be easier to gear, pushers can still push

[coarse nest]

💯

[chilly zodiac]

i mean really, lets just hand out gear for free tbh

[bright ledge]

i dont see this trinket on the wowhead guide, is any good? or trash

[chilly zodiac]

then we can just push for titles

no vertical progression, just cosmetic progression

[gilded smelt]

Do I just send puzzlebox for every reckless?

[restive peak]

If you think people aren't failing these 10s still you're drunk

[livid arch]

finding a 12 AA for resil key is a pain

[sudden tusk]

its okay but p mid

[restive peak]

I need 15 Skyreach for my resil and everyone sucks at it

[slim coral]

guess it depends on how much myth track gear you have rn

[livid arch]

the first boss isnt enjoyable. and the first pull immediately after the first boss my tanks have just tanked it on the stairs

so you dont see any of the circles

[chilly zodiac]

1 button rotations being brought up more to be on par with non 1 button and free gear would be healthy for the game. its not fair to make skill be the factor if people want to see the hardest content

[restive peak]

Ye seen 2 fail at that pull, and 1 failed at the 1st big pull cuz 2 people got knocked off by the raven...smg

smh

[restive peak]

I assume this is just trolling now

[bright ledge]

me when im high

[restive peak]

But if you think 10s were ever anything to gatekeep, you're probably not good enough for this to matter lmao

[chilly zodiac]

dont gatekeep me

with my opinion

[restive peak]

10s were always rolled over by an epic ton of mythic level raiders etc, it just made it less of an annoying grind

It's not like you're getting title off 15s being easier than last season lol

[chilly zodiac]

free gear and move it all to 1 button, no more gatekeeping

[restive peak]

Also our dmg/gear doesn't scale THAT much from here

[chilly zodiac]

take away gear tbh

[olive cobalt]

is bro high

[chilly zodiac]

just cosmetics and titles

[restive peak]

He's trollin hundo P

[chilly zodiac]

if i am you are tbh

[olive cobalt]

What's even the issue

[bitter palm]

why does it matter at all

[olive cobalt]

Not like the game is hard enough to warrant gatekeeping myth track gear at all

[lusty jungle]

Epics are temoorarily bis, house decorations are forever

[bitter palm]

people u will never meet are gonna be more geared

crazy

[chilly zodiac]

right? so no more gear, just titles and cosmetics

[olive cobalt]

For prestige ? Yes

[spare steppe]

Easy gear is great

[olive cobalt]

Gear is still useful to give a sense of progression and to have that "epic pog moment" when you get the myth trinket that one dude in the guild farmed since start of season in your vault

There's no prestige in getting +10 strength or whatever

[bitter palm]

ye i mean its infinitely scaling content. if ksm means nothing to you get 2.5 or 3k

[chilly zodiac]

yeah, no more gear, only titles

that way its an even playing field

[bitter palm]

i wouldnt be against m+ being like pvp

[olive cobalt]

What's in PvP

[spare steppe]

[bitter palm]

gear wise

[olive cobalt]

It's always an even playing field what are you on about

[chilly zodiac]

yeah i have always been able to do 10's in greens, youre right

[spare steppe]

Pvp is awful

[bitter palm]

the problem is that people expect to have the same gear as mythic raiders running splits while playing 10x less

[olive cobalt]

Yeah because the average wow player denying people in +8 for playing off meta will clear +10 in full green gear ofc

[chilly zodiac]

the fuck you even talking about

[olive cobalt]

I don't play PvP so I don't know how PvP gear work 😔

Just that ilvl get scaled up

[chilly zodiac]

^ hes not even joking about taking gear away

[olive cobalt]

You're the one talking about taking gear away for some reason

[chilly zodiac]

making fun of the guy earlier that said its good to give max rewards to people that dont want to put effort into improving

[coarse nest]

There is zero reason for +10s to be absurdly challenging

[spare steppe]

Why do we want to take away gear

[chilly zodiac]

if they have max rewards? 100% there is

[olive cobalt]

They're the one that needs the gear the most to clear +10s so yeah make sense that they get access to it

They still get only one myth track piece per week with that

[coarse nest]

The max reward in WoW comes from the mythic version of the raid

Dungeons are not end game content

[chilly zodiac]

you think people are pulling tons of mythic gear per raid?

[spare steppe]

I’m so confused

[bitter palm]

u get 3 chances at random loot every week

[coarse nest]

You get one mythic piece per week from a +10

[spare steppe]

you can get 1 mythic piece per week from a vault, why does it matter how difficult 10s are?

[olive cobalt]

If they do the full raid they get a lot more shots at it than people only doing +10s

[chilly zodiac]

how many ce's you know

[coarse nest]

A whole lot

[chilly zodiac]

right now?

[bitter palm]

as lincc said 10s being easy benefits legit all players

[coarse nest]

Yes

[chilly zodiac]

so take away gear

no point in having gear

[coarse nest]

💯

[bitter palm]

how is it taking away gear

they will never have

gaze or heart or plume

[chilly zodiac]

like not joking, if you guys arent trolling there is no reason to have gear

[spare steppe]

I do like how gw2 does PvP gear

But this discussion seems kind of aimless

[coarse nest]

Just because +10s are trivial for most mythic raiders doesn’t mean they should remove them as a gear source for the vast majority of players in WoW

[bitter palm]

exactly

10s are trivial anyway in premades

[chilly zodiac]

the vast majority doesnt deserve to do minimal work for max gear

[bitter palm]

and if ure serious about raiding ure running premade

[chilly zodiac]

if you think it does, just take away gear

[coarse nest]

They are not gaining max reward at even remotely the same speed as a mythic raider

[chilly zodiac]

yes they are

[bitter palm]

hoooly bait

[spare steppe]

Are all of you guys getting CE? Cause even with the abundance of gear, my guild is not

[olive cobalt]

It will be solved when gear is removed

[chilly zodiac]

how many people walk out of a raid at the start of the mythic raids with gear

[olive cobalt]

CE is trivial anyway

[bitter palm]

its like people complaining that ce is easy cause of turbo boost

like who cares

[spare steppe]

Wut

[olive cobalt]

forgot the /s

[slim coral]

Boss down

[coarse nest]

Gz

🐐

[bitter palm]

show breakdown

[bitter palm]

is it all tc or do u have 2 devourers

[spare steppe]

Damn Grats

[bitter palm]

xdd

[bitter palm]

holy ethical

[coarse nest]

No ad pad in the above image

[bitter palm]

or u have 2 devourers xdr

[slim coral]

no ads were padded on confirmed

[coarse nest]

X

D

[bitter palm]

time to lock in on the big colo arms

[slim coral]

[spare steppe]

How many tanks did you use?

[slim coral]

3

[unborn delta]

why is odyns so bege

did you guys see that loboz is back

[coarse nest]

Because he’s sending it on the adds

[slim coral]

1 button spam cleave

[bitter palm]

goat

is he raiding mythic

this tier

[bitter palm]

i heard ret dies very early anyway

[slim coral]

what does that mean

[bitter palm]

the ret boss

out of the 3

[slim coral]

yeah but what are is the point is what i mean

are you saying I can spam ms

[bitter palm]

not 3t

[sullen dove]

one of the 3 bosses dies a lot earlier than the other 2

but i mean

still 3t like half the fight

[slim coral]

pretty sure you still spam cleave

idk tho

[coarse nest]

Not ideal

[bitter palm]

on 2t no

cleave with collat

[slim coral]

haven't really paid too much attention to the arms rotation as much

since spec is deadge

[unborn delta]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cJ6WKxRpNqQVZyTC?fight=48&type=damage-done

[slim coral]

atleast I'll get tons of practice

[bitter palm]

goat doing goat stuff

loboz king

[unborn delta]

ran k4

[bitter palm]

kinda washed

probably gear gap

df loboz r1 farming on pad bosses

[hearty stream]

do we always spend all 4 of the stacks from thunderclap in aoe unless u have thunderblast? with and without reck active pls, and with thane build on ST u dont thunderclap unless filler waiting for blast?

[slim coral]

Depends on how many mobs really with 6 plus you spam thunderblast, BB and thunderclap

On ST you tb at 2 stacks and tb when bb is on cd

Also ramp at 100 rage

[hearty stream]

thank you, how come its always at 100 rage instead of right at 80? is that for 2 in a row with reck up or 1 with 20 fury left so u can keep enrage up? i never understood

and also raging blow would be before regular thunderclap then in ST? from the sim it looks that way but i run out of stuff to press if holding off on thunderclap even with using raging blow until bb is up it seems

[olive cobalt]

If absolutely everything is on CD you can still use whirlwind but it shouldn't happen often (if at all ?)

[wary salmon]

I hardly ever have that happen but when it does i use ww ya

[hearty stream]

sounds good, yea havent really had to whirlwind, just was using clap before raging blow in st which i think is wrong

[wary salmon]

Doesnt mean its right though. Im not trying to 90+ parse haha

[olive cobalt]

Raging Blow has priority if you're not under avatar yeah

I don't think it matters that much though

[hearty stream]

i think id have to link a boss fight bc i sim for 80k and really get like 55-60 so im missing something and it seems that is not it then? is that ok for anyone?

[odd crater]

Slayer OP, plz nerf

[balmy shore]

yooooooooooooooo

[odd crater]

Daaaamm, jealous

[winter shoal]

mods put her in a blender

[sullen dove]

mods snap everyones necks that killed that boss this week

[winter shoal]

No instead snap the necks of everyone who killed chimaerus

[sullen dove]

so much easier its crazy

maybe not next week

[winter shoal]

Not for my guild's particular brand of being dogshit

[sullen dove]

but dps/hps of vora so cringe

[winter shoal]

We died to not breaking walls as much as we died to dps/hps

just bad add positioning

[restive peak]

Is this in raid combat or an M+ etc? Because you're simming with full consumables, buffs, and lust

[balmy shore]

WHY

[sullen dove]

yea i mean adds are awful on the fight too

[restive peak]

I'm in 16s and 60-70k on a straight ST boss is pretty standard it seems, it's only amp bosses and shit

[hearty stream]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8f2g1MTGtDXhaNQH?fight=last&source=2&start=11423033&end=11582867&type=damage-done if anyone has a minute to look at this, am i just hitting bloodbath too little? idk what makes the difference from 80k sim to 51k actual dps

[sullen dove]

if u get fixate first add set just end it all

[summer quail]

just gamba 50/50 the first wall. all adds on 1 side

[hearty stream]

im in 15s nad usually am around 55-60

[restive peak]

Ye so fight depending, that's not low, you won't do your sim dmg ST in an M+ straight fight

Because you're missing buffs/lust sometimes

[hearty stream]

but a friend ran with one doing 80k on last boss of MT

[restive peak]

As a fury warr or in general?

[hearty stream]

fury

[restive peak]

I don't remember that boss top of head, I'd have to check

[balmy shore]

we actually would have killed it thursday but we pushed our raid days this week from tues/thurs/mon to thurs/sun/mon that boss hof is so fake

i was ethicalgodx that fight

[snow quartz]

with 4p do you juse odyns fury on cd?

[winter shoal]

big javelineer value

[winter shoal]

You do that without 4p too

[balmy shore]

bigbowwl is wowa updated for fury

:3

[winter shoal]

Yes

[snow quartz]

well alright then, i would always try lining up with reck

[winter shoal]

It's probably buggy but it's updated and nobody has yelled at me about any bugs yet

[balmy shore]

woohoo thanks

[winter shoal]

so either I cooked or they aren't big enough to notice

[balmy shore]

xd

[modest condor]

makes jailer alliance hof look impressive

[balmy shore]

lolol

it's so bad

[sullen dove]

i was talkin about snap vorasius killer necks

[balmy shore]

o why

oh yeah the trinket drops from that one

[pulsar quest]

just ripped a 7 parse on my saladbar kill

ethical warrior

[winter shoal]

I'm just gonna blame my stinky parses on gear diff

swordish and khazix sim 10k more than me wcyd

Are they also better players than me? Yes

The gear is the problem though

[pulsar quest]

true

20 keys no loot wcyd

266 ilvl im just a lil baby

[winter shoal]

Ran a combined 30ish miasara and PoS, got lots of loot but none of it was usable

Got the fuck ass PoS neck like 5 times

Ran other dungeons for io and got 3 pieces in 4 runs

gg

[sudden tusk]

only piece left is the voidclaw gloves

[winter shoal]

I have the champ ones but I need to swap those for LFR tier gloves on reset to make 4p

[sudden tusk]

stupid ass dungeon with 40 items

[winter shoal]

smish got them on like run 2

[sudden tusk]

smish blowup

i technically also could use the master nexus point ring

but cba

[winter shoal]

Yeah I got the meat and potatoes stuff now, just need to open vault and send crests and then we'll see how things look after raid

[summer quail]

those do not exist

only the neck exists in that dungeon

[sudden tusk]

main issue is ive had to tank almost all my runs

and with us having no plate we didnt have a stack or anything so the chance of getting it is basically none

https://giphy.com/gifs/game-anime-tavara-UkO6RtpnByZHciW58I

@sullen dove

[sullen dove]

yea i mean i kill .2 bosses tho

and get sent in g2 chimerus

76 overall r1 boss damage poggers

trying myth chimerus in a pug on lock

surely doable

cluegi

[sudden tusk]

idk Raid is so dumb to parse

[sullen dove]

got like a 52% phase or something i think

[sudden tusk]

14thousand adds a boss

[sullen dove]

not clean p1 yet really

destro lock is actually insanely fun tho

for this boss

[sudden tusk]

my server is just HoF after HoF of chimarus

very silly to give HoF to every set

[full topaz]

i can never get the other half

[neon cairn]

i cant seem to find a common answer anywhere but whats our best weapon embellishment rn?

[winter shoal]

hunt sigil

[neon cairn]

ty

[compact knot]

bro

is this real life

[balmy shore]

i need these gloves too smh

i ended up getting the ring set instead

[sudden tusk]

owned

[balmy shore]

ran like 40+ dungeons this week and then 20+ on my dk

[sudden tusk]

cant wait to spend 10 weeks of voidcores on them

or just one shot them in the vault

[balmy shore]

WTF

lmaooooooo

tbt smolderon prog my charge went sicko mode https://www.twitch.tv/squimshed/clip/ResoluteIncredulousPoxPraiseIt-pZyFE31nrM9Tc1DP?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

[compact knot]

this shit

has been happening since classic

[restive peak]

Just need this and the 2nd nexus ring and I'm freeeee

[sullen dove]

malevolence such a cringe ability tho

why is it a 1min cd

when infernal is 90s

[modest condor]

not as sick as your charge on sarkareth

[young swan]

paladins is fucking wild man

[balmy shore]

how is paladins phased crashed out in our server

[sullen dove]

u mean vorasius is wild haha

haha

[brittle crow]

u mean heroic crown is wild

..

[sullen dove]

hesright

[young swan]

its just

so much damage

we kind of owned tho

i think

[sudden tusk]

voracius sucks

prob one of the worst 2nd bosses they've made

[modest condor]

really?

[brittle crow]

justr do it 3rd then

?

[sudden tusk]

Its just really boring. nothing interesteing. and the bugs are annoying

[undone flower]

Nathria huntsman bis second boss

[modest condor]

huntsman was pretty wild for a 2nd boss

imagine setting up immune soaks for a 2nd boss

[undone flower]

i was mm hunter and i still liked it

[compact knot]

my damage feels low on this boss

dragon boss

mythic

ok nvm im like on pace for rank 3

it feels so low though idk

[sullen dove]

me when u were like 40k above next dps in previous clip

wrap it up chucklenuts

[compact knot]

that was like a prog pull

also easier to pad when everyone is deadge

i wonder if a puzzle box is good

[sullen dove]

gg

[compact knot]

i ddi like 185k on our almost kill pull

think the r1 guy had god rng or smth, he got a full extra avatar

not sure how to milk a extra avatar, i was trying to line up cds with his

[sudden tusk]

boss dam rise up

pad blow up

[compact knot]

i kinda wanna try arms

but it feels troll on prog

i feel like its good

im getting the adds gripped directly on top of me every time since we have 2 bdks

[undone flower]

with a burst of power proc it is kinda easy to roll a big rng avatar

[compact knot]

i think arms

is actually crazy

on the dragons

you play colossus

ok nah its definetly better

[junior gale]

you doing the colo 2t build or m+?

[young swan]

u should play colossus arms

crazy that <nurfed> is smurfing <infinity> and <vodka> this tier

[sudden tusk]

no wonder xan is blue

hes smurfed

[slim coral]

crazy that <fierce> is smurfing <infinity> and <vodka> this tier

[compact knot]

i havent pulled it

probably gonna stay fury for prog purposes

on rekill i will probably try arms though

but i would do the m+ cleave build

[slim coral]

Infinity is washed confirmed gg

[charred path]

So my guild had plate wrists drop from the first boss and I won them. Should I craft the cloak first? Here is the sim result.

[slim coral]

the robot does say cloak

[charred path]

guess we just follow the robot

[compact knot]

yes

[spring pumice]

What ilvl should I have for 6s?

[slim coral]

probably like 250 is good enough

maybe even 240

[spring pumice]

Ty

[fading sky]

Y 10s at 250

Is no

[compact knot]

harder to get invited probably

[fading sky]

Y theres that

For puggin u need 270+

[compact knot]

ok

[fading sky]

2 get into anythn

[compact knot]

that is not true

for a 6

but like a 12 maybe

[fading sky]

2 get in som1s key?

Feels like it😅

Well add 10 itemlevels vs whats needed to clear key, this is the number u need

[fading sky]

At least with ful12-10s in keys and 266, i struggle get invites just due to mass of ppl that wanna play

[dapper goblet]

we split because we're not pedophiles who go in frame 1

[slim coral]

we splits too

[dapper goblet]

also with weekly bucket comp until the last like 5 pulls

no point explaining more

[slim coral]

All I'm hearing is excuses smh

[dapper goblet]

i'd type something but i'd get banned

[slim coral]

Dm me it I'd love to hear

[hushed gust]

honest question. how good are we supposed to be in M+ at the moment?

[compact knot]

above average

id say

92% of the best spec right now

maybe overshooting it a bit

[sudden tusk]

yeah i saw you guys hadn't finished nexus but you are 3 split lording this tier

[hushed gust]

i've been chain denied for 20 minutes now, just trying to get into a key. i'm 2.5k, just trying to top off 10's.

[compact knot]

people dont like warriors

[sudden tusk]

prob finish nexus and prob kill dragons if you raid again before reset

[dapper goblet]

usually do when its heroic week which is only the case first tier of a new expansion

[compact knot]

they still think the classsucks

[dapper goblet]

i mean yeah we'll be on paladins tomorrow

we dont raid tuesday first week

[sudden tusk]

skipping server issues?

or just M+ gaming