#fury
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I'm thinking about rerolling to frost mage or unholy DK
but fury is love for me since Legion
I'd rather go Mage then DK, but that's me
fury for the love, frost (mage) for the invites
^this
Nice π π
I heard that frost mage is fun and powerful after the rework
Might be a hot take to some
ya they seem fine but ppl will pref utility
Kassk is not wrong
Warrior is decent in M+ right now, but if you want to go meta UHDK will probably stay the Meta pick based on what i've been seein in these keys
Aahh shit, here we go again
doesn't mean you cant get title or anything like that, but it will make pugging a bit more difficult. If you want to play M+ the best thing you can do is push and get IO early
becuase if you fall behind in the funny number you will not be picked regardless
What I saw was a few runes where there was a frost mage and UH DK so numerically they were very similar
Warrior i think is in a weird spot where, we are kind of like ret where we have CDs all the time
High burst aoe with rly good st
And do less dmg
We have utility? lol
In both st and aoe
ive already seen rets do like 700k burst in 10s
I agree, I'll probably go back to DK since I'm most used to melee characters, even though frost mage is very good
but our sustained aoe is better then ret
well ret is brought to RWF becuase Hpal is mid and Prot pal is also mid
Man was outputtin mad st
its also psuedo ranged like DK so it doesn't suffer as much from melee uptime issues like warrior does
Usually ret has less st atm its one pf top ones
Higher keys mb?
true dk gameplay is so free lmaoo
he has 2 ilvls on me too
press generator, be a caster for 10s
ret just has more burst for lower keys. but warriors consistant aoe as thane is pretty good
have you messed with colossus yet crit
not yet
If they keep buffing arms it might have some real potential
I was loosin in 10s on st
scourge strike being ranged ist not okay imo
been waiting for a slightly lower key to cook with it
And I thought you were going to start playing frost mage or DK π
He was at like 80/85k
God I pray for a colossus buff, it's my fav specc π’
Sky reach
the exe buff doesnt rly do much for col tbf but ye might still see more buffs after this
yeah i was hoping for an MS buff
nah i have them as alts
The u cant afford 2 press button
i think fishy said collo might use exe in 2tar or single target now, but its rage issues are still very prominant
i checked 99% for mythics yday and arms had a higher peak than fury
Just give us back the 20% they took?
Have you had UH DK in any party? If so, how did it fare against Fury?
not yet
well the only people playing arms in mythic right now are probably demons
seen some UH in low keys but they arent good in those rly
@radiant plank demonus spiritus
Also why buff arms when in the charts arms is doing better than fury in heroic raid AND mythic +?
Yea probably Frost mage is better
Heroic raid col to clap meaningless adds
UHdk takes time to ramp. and by the time you get into your actual CDs everythings basically dead
How's the arms gameplay anyway?
so its value wont be seen unless high keys
i was talking about mythic+ rankings
True
frost mage feels pretty nuts, i wanna gear mine and see what it can do
on the meter, rotation is zz
on wowhead the bis gear only shows 3 set pieces is this true?
when has frost mage not been zzz?
it doesnt?
I have fat fingers i need ZZZ class π
hey just saying, if you want a rewarding rotation to feel good about yourself its not fmage lol
Start clicking like classic players π
Timers
Frostbolt frostbolt π
i grey parsed on vorasius mythic
partially cuz of the dread plague bug
but partially cuz im dogshit
idk if mine bugged but this is what i see
i hate grip duty
What ze bug?
That is so true
breastplate is still a tierpiece?
I hate that fight as melee
idk why it says chimaerus
Going to narnia waitin for adds
i am stupid lmao
dread plague is supposed to summon ghouls some times but it just doesnt and bugs out other times
true smooth brain lol
I have only played mine in hc
why does it not say tier set next to it lmao
did you hog mites?
And 0p at 255 still almost or morr st thsn my 4p war
chest is tier from chimerus
So sad
so far you gotta straight up grief the raid to parse
odd its dif tho
no clue what u mean
did you hold cds for adds
yeah that messed with me lmao i was like no way i only use 3 lol
ill be real with you. focus on boss damage
They die 2 fast
let the adds die to cleave focus on boss damage i beg you
you should on mythic probably
Nah
or you get the early 99 like a chad
On mythic as dk ..m adds die horribly if u cd id venture?
hey how can i make something similar to the imp whirlwind stacks WA tracker from last season
or has it already been made
alright appreciate it
is what i use works well
has a hiccup every now and then, but otherwise reliabe
has any1 gotten the cooldown manager centered import error invalid format CMC1 prefix before?
Can't figure out wtf is wrong
uhh does raid bots sim my earthen fed racial?
Sim it
should we use rampaging ruin talent ever? and if so do we need some kind of cancelaura whirlwind macro with rampage for ST bosses?
Never
Is the reputation trinket viable in raid. It seems to sim well for me
Do u got it fully unlocked?
I've taken a bit of a break from WoW and my Warrior, could someone ELI5 the rotation for Fury? I read the wowhead but I don't know way I understand what's being written must be stupid because I must be doing something wrong.
No only 2 of the abilities
you can if u feel like you need it
it can be pretty useful in more dangerous keys especially if you steal threat lol
Hello here, what's about using whirwind on thane when there are many many target like 20 ?
droptimizer for m+ you guys simming as fury or thane?
would take it over warpaint idk
prob dumb but sacrificing dmg feels bad
in mass aoe you pretty much just clap and rampage afaik, not much room for WW; maybe the occasional rend (rend and tb have more dmg than WW and are both aoe)
is rend worth casting when its applied by tclap?
only as very low prio filler if you must, generally no
Got a question, do you guys spam Rampage ? Like if you are not above 100-110 do you use Rampage ?
Well if you are losing enrage for one example
oh well i did forget the initial dmg
Is is any close to a normal overal on a +10?
You dont play Slayer in most content atm, so im simming Thane
When does haste start to fall off?
Opposite day
I remember when you rarely played Thane anywhere
Specifically in S2 and 3 before Reap was "fixed"
thats why its played so much in raid
fuck I wish I could add a sound to be played when ww buff is down to 1 stack, like we could with WAs
can you not add a sound in CDM
fuck i dislike thane but it deals so much damage :(
People who dislike thane are a mystery to me
hmm I can't find the option to, but I might be blind
beyblade just looks more fun that's it lol
It's somewhere there
I'm not online
Can someone please give me an advice if i leave here a log that i did for 5 mins only with the War Buff to let me know if i am bad ? I want to improve but i don't know how π
I wish I was good enough to help. I'm in the same boat. There's another fury warrior in my guild that does 10-15k more dps than me in raids and I'm higher ilvl
i am 263 ilvl, with 2 set items and myth weapon craft and i dealt 45k in ST in the Reinforced Golem, i feel like i should have dealt more
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/quick sim yourself
That fight doesnt usually last more than 2 minutes, so set it to 1 boss, 2 minutes, and choose just battle shout
big aoe
if you guys are logging you could compare casts and where he uses cds etc
hello, during recklessness, is it better to do "rampage, bloodbath, rampage, bloodbath, etc" or do i prioritize rampage all time then bloodbath ?
https://lorrgs.io/ sidenote might be useful if u want to do that
A Website to compare top parses in World of Warcaft.
2k p sure
Just 2k
at 3k u get a mount
You get more catalyst when you get 4 set
usually its just rotation. from classic dc experience, every time someone thought they use their main generator on cd, they didnt
thank you
tbh i wish i could have a sound play when my OF is off cd
still not used to the 4p timings lol
sorry i cant keep up with all the different release dates but do we get another catalyst charge on this next reset?
Yes
You Can
ok thanks!
which addon #49498 do i need to install that would be replaced with a single setting in weakauras ?
however im listening
In blizzard cdm you can put sounds for abilities
Just right click the ability in cdm
too real
oh shi
lemme try it out
after im done with the key
only on aura applied or removed or cd ready, cant get a warning on like 1 stack of ww left bc fu :>
Question: Where in this discord would I post findings for optimizations to the awrrior APL? (if any discovered?). Is this the current area?
Hello people
Iβm actually struggling to find any MM+ groups that let me join, even in +2
with 253ilvl
nobody really does these your best hope is either pushing your own key/finding a guild that would let u run a few 10's
Is there any hate towards Fury Warriors? or is it just me
if i got a hero track helm and a dawnlight mana flux is it worth upgrading it to tier
10's are super easy
I get it, but f
those keys are hell
i still have a +2 cause we didnt do my key
i list it to push it
and no one is applying
list ur own and hope someone applies
once u get into 10s it gets infinitely better
Luckily we got a life hack we can use
tanks don't exist btw just a heads up
#TankInstaQue
i aint playing pwar
Fury warriors are tanks
i get insta qs as arms anyway
I mean, I do as Fury
But i aint the one complaining
why would i play arms ? it sucks
If you complain, you go tank and stop whininh
It doesn't
So asking a question is complaining '-'
ok well ty anyway
Start ur own keys @dusk basin
Arms pump tho
That will help you get up
Started as arms but i felt so weak
Arms probably top 3 aoe spec
Has some of the best AOE. Still think ST is still garbo
It's gonna be fine next week
Insert "Thanos balanced gif"
- you can pull mobs on top of the boss and let arms funnel
Remember Zul?
Sub 
didnt play back then
ik sub got legit
removed from the game cause of one buss
boss
Question: even though i see it on the list as a solid trinket, is algethars puzzle box worthwhile or replace immediately when applicable? 2min on use with a long cast is not zug zug friendly haha
It has lower overall throughput unless you can plan around giant ass pulls
yo the non stop lua addons error pop up is killing me - any1 know how to suppress this pop up?
yeah you get working addons
ive leaned out my add ons, still getting the pop up
Bugsack and buggrab
ok ty
ominous
Blitzβs chat is bugged right now too
oh i assumed that was just my addons not working cause i update monthly
wait nvm its fixed
Is it just me or waiting to press thunderblast until you have two stacks in single target feels pretty bad
thane prio is cooked
Yeah I started playing wow in the tww and this is my first experience like this and it's just so weird
Who the heck actually waits tho
hello guys quick question do u always applY whirldwind procc with TC in m+ ?
Yes
imagine the burst possibility
id assume the trinkets are balanced for st..
Often u run out of rbs so seldom
Its rly just rb>1stack
is there a list at all of what bosses in M+ can be spell reflected?
guys i started trying to optimze my gear but im unsure if the stat distribution is even good i have
and is there any point to whirlwind if thunder clap already applies the stack?
if you're playing thane you drop whirlwind you just never press it
there used to be a reflect spreadsheet but i cant find it maybe its not maintained
in dps FAQ -> https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide
covers trash + bosses
thanks guys, and yea playing thane
yo i can see that on wowhead guiide offhand bis is Blood Knight's Warblade while on icyveins its Blood Knight's Impetus
what should i craft?
execute is never a priority above bloodthirst? even in execute phase right?
trying to understand how this item on the right is better as its only champion, one on the left is hero - is it because I haven't fully upgraded the hero track I'm guessing
cause versatility is the worst status
you want a good amount of crit haste mastery and very low versatility
please delete pawn
pawn is such a throwback π
Y also u didnt upgrade it
pawn might be cooking though thoughts
I am in the process of doing so but I don't want to waste hero crests
I'm at like 198/200 lol
Waste how?
don't the amount of crests you can have/use get capped per season?
yea true I need to start simming, will do ty
Per week
ahh mb, sorry haven't played in ages
100 per week
is Pawn generally seen as bad then?
yea would not upgrade that neck anyway if u kill heroic endboss you could rip a 276 for free wit no crests
thank you pawn i will be using a profile from 2024 now
thank you pawn π
π€£
when someone told me to download Pawn I was like, "I got 80 gigs worth"
"no, PAWN"
can you delete pawn now please
sick


This is the info I got from ChatGPT as I want to know the same - maybe the guys here could briefly proof read it in case there's any discrepancies:
Crit: 28β32%
Haste: 22β26%
Mastery: 18β22%
Vers: 6β10%
π If youβre around this β youβre in a very solid spot
π How to Think About It (Simple Rule)
Low gear β prioritize Crit + Haste
Better gear β Mastery gains value
Always avoid dumping everything into one stat
π‘ Pro Insight (this is big)
Once you reach:
~30% Crit
~25% Haste
π Your rotation βunlocksβ and becomes:
Much smoother
Much higher uptime
Way easier to maintain Enrage

wow
man
is this a bit or do you actually think chatgpt knows what its talking abt
I'm getting the impression there's an air of sarcasm in the room π
Avoid dumping into one stat a somewhat decent statement
but also kind of not possible anyway
i mean agents can run simcraft in the background and infer from those outputs, but you don't get much more compared to RaidBots without some effort
not chatgpt via chat interface tho
yea they are most certainly not pulling any warrior sims and seeing what stats they have
maybe they βcouldβ
but uh⦠yea someone get on wowgpt
It's not bad for a general idea of what you have to aim for right? I mean not sticking to what it says 100%
i used codex a few times to parse through some logs from warcraftlogs, kind of speeds up looking at specific fights
I mean itβs just not anywhere close to what % of stats you should have
The only like concrete correct thing it says is just get crit haste and mastery and doesnβt breathe a word of versatility
it has literally no idea what its talking about
please only sim your character and try not to use genai for information about anything that doesnt effectively have an encyclopedia to pull from
ok
I hate the fact that AI is now the first link when you search somethihg
the google one is like somewhat ok I think
good lesson for other instances you might be using genai for, its just making stuff up all the time and its on you to double check that its not smoking crack
mostly for just the most basic cursory info on something
Yeah it's not bad but I always check more links to make sure lol
i'm still laughing at pro insight (this is big)
Hahahah
π‘
π If youβre around this β youβre in a very solid spot
i wish i was that good at bullshiting irl
easier to maintain enrage with high haste and crit! hesRight tho!
enrage may do nothing with 20% mast but good uptime
truth nuke
Lmao
It seems like chatgpt is combining a lot of fury iterations
Like the crit enrage thing is definitely old
yea I mean that probably might have been true at one or more points in time
The stats
That's MoP fury
But afaik mastery has always been good for fury
So it feels weird for it not to include that lol

does chimaerus heropic drop catalyst charge?
No boss has determined catalyst charge drops.
Once u get 4piece, every boss has a low chance to drop cata charges
just a quick question, when i have cds active i never touch crushing blow unless i have no charges of thunderous blast, no SD proc and Bloodbath is on Cd right?
This is the ST rotation during cooldowns from wowhead guide
ok so i guess i was right
vers 6-10%
ppl actual use ai for everything and repost the results as if theyre worth anything lol
lol I didn't know tbh
I work in game dev and use CGPT for stuff like coding and shaders
so it works pretty well for that
You want to stack Arcane mastery on both weapons or bersk on 2nd?
thats a bit different
so I thought it would be the same for giving good info on this π€£ mb
it works well when there's documentation to grab. You should be incredibly careful with that
It doesnt work for changing metas
it doesn't work for changing talent trees
it doesn't work in any dynamic fields
ah yea makes sense
if people want to ask chatgpt then that's on them
they will learn the hard way that they shouldnt do that
my friend copies the CSV from rank 1 log and his own CSV into chatgpt and asks it what hes doing poorly compared to rank 1 log based on current APL that he also copy pastes into the prompt
I mean, I don't know if they'll learn anything to be honest....they'll just be doing worse dps wondering why π
that's like the only thing ive seen work to "some" degree
but it still tells him bullshit
chatgpt is great for executing tasks, not necessarily gathering information
yeah and then they realise chatgpt is nonsense
and if they dont then they'll just keep being bad forever
ChatGPT is literally the worst LLM you can use for anything dev related
lmao
chatgpt obviously refers to any kind of llm here
it's like saying google to search for something even tho more and more people are moving away from it
bits of code are also kind of safe to use although you never know what bugs that code might lead to later on
Not for devs, no
Why?
well im a zug zug warrior not a dev
should my rendorei acuity be on my main hand?
they're all the same to me
It just does anything way worse than Gemini and Claude would do
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
genuinely asking, as the shader code its been giving me has worked fine, I mean its not always 100% on the money and needs tweaking, but haven't got any complaints
i dont care if the LLM is good or bad, as long as it tells the devs to buff fury and they comply
10% buff pls
I believe the plan is to buff arms and nerf fury
according to chatgpt, jk
nah, we need to think outside the box, too many big rooms and adds... we need 30s bladestorm, bladestorm now is 25y circle, odyn buffed by 200% and has a 25y circle, improved whirlwind now 25y range on our attacks
I also wouldnt mind buffs to Arms big enough so I dont have to touch Fury anymore
This spec stinks
isn't arms good now
ST is still giga cooked
Wait till Tuesday
You stink
Topping dps on every fight in hc raid except Salhaadar 
ah alr, will check in discord a bit if anything stands here but cant rly find smth
user error, they seem to beat us on salad
i hear arms ST bad, yet there they are
thriving
very convenient to go for high percentiles
90th isnt real
90 isnt high
how isn't 90th real?
obv it isnt
well there is some variation in raids
99th shits on us
But if 90 is this close I cant imagine it being much different on 99
i didn't wanna feel so bad
ye
ok and?
But genuinely, how lol
Nevermind arms, fury needs a buff
im assuming amp phase?
arms outpeaks fury just give the full picture no?
Arms doesnt really burst harder though
I mean Codex (which you get access to via ChatGPT subs) is **the ** frontier developer tool so not sure what you mean, but it's either the best or second best dev tool π€·ββοΈ
this is world of warcraft we only code with copilot as a microsoft company
tbf, arms cleaves a bunch of useless shit
Codex isnt even close to the frontrunner
what useless shit is arms cleaving on salhadaar
Havent seen anyone use Codex who doesnt purely vibecode
lmao
oh sal, mb
soon your raid leaders will ask if you have an arms set
why am i so dogshit that ww monks beat me in aoe
cleave
are monks good in aoe too or am i bad
WW is okay-ish in aoe
They are good in aoe
heres a question
How good is our burst Aoe?
i feel like we can only get up to like 300k
but other classes get like 600k
ye but you have a lot of consistent damage
ive seen people at like 900k
Enh can burst up to 1M+ but then does tank dps outside of cds
While we can just continue doing 200k+ nonstop
Fury == Netherlands
lol π
That's what i was going to say. I think our strength comes not from crazy damage but, how often we have our CDS
Why is everyone crying about warriors on keys ? For their dmg
Who does that?
If enraged/have cleave buff etc or in ST without cleave buff β and our triple BT/BB procs, we slapping that thing 3 times in a row?
If u dont have stacks/Cap enrage, yeah
Sorry, which stacks would I be looking out for?
But 10% st dmg for fury more would be perfect
Assuming you arenβt above 100 rage or at 2 tblast charges yes. In practice you donβt usually end up spamming it out due to these
thats how its meant to be playee
quick and prob useless question, i'm about to craft my weapon should i go for crit/haste for the missive ?? ty helping a noob out

Iβd go Haste/Mastery as you already have a good amount of crit
Why does the Rampage proc come up on my screen, when I don't have enough rage to use it?
The apex talent reduce rampage cost
yes, but I can't use rampage when it comes up
new to fury, just of first glance does anything look wrong? No tierset yet. Was on nexus point xenus
the reduced cost during reck makes it available so it glows, then recklessness ends, the cost goes back up but the glow doesnt go away and you dont have enough rage for the increased cost when you did have enough for the reduced cost
ah makes sense, thank you
is simming 38k on single target with no buffs (ilvl 255) sound about right or is my build off?
Can you link the sim
explain
tank main, needed boots
hmm
No r5 is unfortunate
Idk talents look fine, 3m target dummy sim isn't something people run that often, so I can't give a great reference point
My 3m target dummy sim is like 53k but my gear is kinda cheeks, swordish/khazix/azrakan probably sim close to 60k on that profile
whats that, 3 minutes and no buffs?
yeah
Yeah no buffs, no consumes, target permanently at 100%hp
unless the pull were really small it looks like you are pressing tc to little
interesting sim to run
You def just need to upgrade your gear, lots of champ/vet pieces not maxed out
Low ilvl weapons is also very unfortunate but if you're a tank main then wcyd
I dunno, its the closest you're gonna get to actually hitting the dummy, so when I test on dummy I know what to aim for
Note that target dummy sims also don't use battle shout
real commitment, no bshout
Which presumably you will during your testing
guess the WA didn't pop up
@rare garnet what trinkets r u running
they're really bad
for general m+ play do we send odyns on cd or do we wanna pair it with reck/avatar?
cant get any raid trinkets :c
send on cd
bro ???
schmidi sighted
@gleaming siren
Schmididi toilet
got to feel powerful for week 1-2, now i fall off as the gamers grab a bunch of mythic gear
Why? Donβt fury scales as good as other classes ?
I mean I see fury war in keys doing amazing tone of dmg
And on some bosses they perform rly well
lol
meow
hey i got both of em to π
IM GLAD DAMAGE IS IN A GOOD STATE FOR MOUNTAIN THANE HOW ABOUT WE LOOK AT SLAYER AOE COPILOT
oh, carry on
Itβs a PvP developper note
i just thought we would get nerfed >_<
fury is in a damn fine state i think ofc we could be ebtter tho
burst of power is kinda busted in PvP
does any1 have that picture of the key levels and what they award
like a +16 for great vault
i did a few pvp games, sat in chain roots getting tunneled, root breaks usleess since they all just spam reapply now for like 10s over and over and over, then vendored all that gear, no thx, ill let the ranged enjoy PVP
yea but i need it to 16
Yes you scrolled too far down, you have to stop when the blue post say Player versus Player
there isnt
or does it not matter past 12 now
anything past 10s
12 still BiS, affix are puke
apparently
Affix makes the key faster
someone told me they changed it im stupid
Thoughts on dropping 500k on halleria necklace for lock
think Iβd be willing to do that should it happen
i dropped like 600k on a fishing pole, do it
yea I mean u are chopped in the head but wcyd
zug zug
Should not talk while you spent 500k on neck
on a warlock
is warlock the best alt because it has war in the name or the worst alt because its a fucking warlock, i cant decide
Facts
@sullen dove do you know of a good warrior pov where I can also look at their log, on chimaerus?
just dont lose them
How many people actually lost crests though?
No one I know
idk whenever critcake raids presumably sometime soon
can look at my log for the most ethical boss damage in the game but piss all add damage 
but if u want to parse ask to get sent in g1
And probably hold cds on pull for like 10-15ish seconds
If g2 tho u just slam that shit on cd and occasionally get to hit adds but blow up boss
thanks for the info 
make lower levels of your tier set have the mythic glow
like heroic/normal sets etc
Itβs usually just head/shoulders tho sometimes noticeable on other pieces like belt potentially gloves
is the dmg gain from MT over slayer for M+ is big? or kinda same?
what a goat warrior name btw
Probably a 10% or greater gap
but itβs still fine to slayer in 10-12 range if youβre not worried about damage being limiting factor to time
keys are kinda giga easy this szn
yup
just donβt die 4head
eh anyway to show my gear for any improvements ?
I feel like im falling to low on mastery but any M+ gear does not sim any better than what i currently have Q_Q
well If youβre simming then already on the right track
idk I mean u do want a good amount of mastery but itβs not like itβs the only stat you go for
unbuffed im at 932 Mastery and 845 Haste
This isnβt like gospel to follow of course but as something of a baseline to follow I have around 20crit20haste40mast and almost 0 verse
yea that doesnβt sound bad
Iβm similar ish there i think
Can maybe try to work towards more crit
If u think thatβs a little low
im at 16 crit o-o
22 Haste and 40 Mast
3% Vers bc for some fked up reason Sim said so
have the NEck from seat
yea I mean a little verse will happen itβs nbd
with Thane i would do 83,5k ST which doesnt seem bad
those stats look p fine tho I donβt think u need to worry about secondaries as much as just higher ilvl
oh yeah what man thatβs likeβ¦
almost as good as some of the top sims rn
Youβre more than fine wut xd
im new i have no clue if its any good
xD
new to warri
and fking hell i love it xD
I hit like 87k with slayer but Iβm a bit of a loot fed piggy
but would prolly be 2-3k less as thane
so yea I think u are hard chillin
eh lemme check
U gotta be almost 270 no
270,44
or are
yea
idk nothin seems wrong with your gear just game for da sake of game
pmuch just crest waiting/vault farming myth gear
85,936 on slayyer
nice
only thing i need to change apparently is one of my rings
ok I go get haircut
It keep on blasting
yea rings are significant ish
nexus 2set very good
but since secondaries are all of a rings value 2 rings can have very diff value from each other
but than i feel like im missing to much Crit chance
yea I mean can try to swap some enchants or crafted gear Ilvl or something for that
But all in the sims
Guys, one quick question, the rampage/thunderclap rotation i start doing when ? like 5 targets ?
7+
Ok, thanks β€οΈ
Another one, sorry
Switching Massacre for Rampaging Ruin its only worth it for algethar academy ?
probably not by much if so thunder clap/blast and odyns already very adequate aoe
but if u rly wanted to try it out thatβd probably be the best place to
just donβt forget the 2nd ramp macro to not do 3 dps during boss fights
Wait, thats a thing ? i have no idea about it
i dont think they've heard about second ramp macro, pippin
idk if thatβs been fixed yet as per message but would assume not
RR would have been a nice talent like s2 TWW but now we ironically have plenty of aoe
soredish on chimaerus did they make you go down first or second group
Ask for the zug zug special
Question. For the Paladins fight in Voidspire, is Mountain Thane notably better than Slayer (multi-target)?
I was in Slayer, which I usually perform great with even in AOE situations, but I was completely falling flat in that fight for some reason
Yes
check what top parses are running https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?boss=3180&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&difficulty=4
I guess what really confused me, is that I was passing great with slayer even in fights with multi target. I also use it and do great in mythic plus. But then hit a wall suddenly with that fight.
Would you say it is the improved meat clever that is a big difference? And maybe that it is constantly three targets the entire fight, as opposed to sporadic groups of adds?
im approaching 40% crit
thoughts
Iβm not exactly sure what the breakdown is but thane is better at sustained multi target which is paladins
I assume TC and TB are just better sustained
Anyone know if i should upgrade my hero track head into tier ?
I think TC radius is larger than WW too which helps you catch another paladin when they are not perfectly stacked
Colossal arms
question, are you guys replacing your champion set pieces for hero (from m+)
that fight certainly favors thane, but you can still do pretty well as slayer on it
i did 132k dps as slayer on that fight and top 100 thanes are doing somewhere between 134 and 150. So while I ceartainly would do more as thane, I don't feel like I held the group back.
I parsed orange on the first and third boss of the raid, but somehow Iβm stuck in Green for paladins. Itβs really making me scratch my head.
stay cleaving, try to always be next to the 2 paladins that are grouped, ignore the guy that runs out tbh his shield breaks so fast its not worth the charge, i would delay bladestorm by 5s if it meant having the 3rd paladin come in for it if they were out for a mechanic
to clarify - it's still worth using Wrecking Throw on the shield, you just don't need to explicitly follow the target
i mean, sure, i mean, i don't know since i refuse to talent it because i just want to zug not pay attention to another keybind, but you're certainly absolutely correct
all i know is im the best heroic paladins pandaren slayer in NA 1 night guild and i dont use wrecking throw and if you're ever feeling bad about yourself just add more filters till you're on top
is the Nexus ring's set bonus damage not called "Twilight Barrage" in the full html raid bots report?
rings are twilight barrage and the gloves are voidclaw
big paladins damage, really worth it
okay thats what I thought
so my full html report from a top gear sim with those rings created doesnt show twilight barrage
hmm... my sim shows it
wonder why that would be
probably how top gear generates the like, combined report, i would toss it into quicksim
idk how to convert a top gear character into quick sim
Should I always make sure that I have recklessness to activate before my blade storm or is it not worth waiting very long if they donβt lineup?
how do you guys manage your interrupts?
i feel like i have too many buttons for it
got 2 focus buttons and 2 stormbolt buttons and 2 pummel buttons for focus mouseover target etc
click the three dots, you can drop another sim into any of the other types
ahh my goat ive been sleeping on that feature

i just click the nameplate and press ability
having 2 buttons for each interrupt seems like turbo overkill
is 2 set and 4set a big dps increase?
raidbots needs a plus ultra version to i can sim all gear and all gem combos and all enchants, i need like 60M iterations please and thank you
i really struggle with mouseover because i hold my right button down almost all the time to move in combat
so i made a focus button and stormbolt / pummel that target focus
but then if i have to do something on a target thats not focus, i need a 2nd one...
how's slayer vs thane in m+ and raid yall think? out of curiosity π€
thane almost always better i feel like
click button afk for 2 hours
ez
except its fully single target
!tier
!tier
!tier
Guys, a stupid question but during Lightblinder Vanguard fight, do we need to keep up our whirlwind buff ?
in general, the whirlwind buff is for how many target ?
4+ ?
you could just read the talent itself. It hits 4 additional targets
and yes you keep it up
even at 2 targets for cleave
you hit 4 other targets for 65% of the damage
i thought fury was multi target by default that why i ask
nop, full single target without improved whirlwind
for the rotational stuff atleast, Odyns fury and Bladestorm always hit multiple
gents if I just wanna level delvers journey should I keep doing 11s or just like spam 1s?
or do alts get a bunch of bonus xp or something?
uise alts. Do quests but save until 88 and turn all in for quick 90
this may sound like a silly question but does the improved whirlwind talen effect rampage?
yes
ββHow much of an increase the tier set is?
100% worth
that talent should not be taken, it triggers instead of rampage
making it annoying as hell in single target
(you need to /cancelaura for full effectiveness)
What must I do, to access such... attractive, gains?
Take logs to #1347646810457636974
reading the wowhead rotation guide, and applying them mostly
log and compare with other fury war / ask in #1347646810457636974
Because it uses profilesets and not copies
okay thank you
tldr what is wrong:
- Your rotation, go to #dps-faq
- Gear, get it
- Fix your rotation again
Ahh, ty for clarification
The HTML report won't show a different actor for every profileset
But copies essentially create additional actors which is why they come with additional computational overheas
And why raidbots is mostly profilesets
You could make a sim with a bunch of copies of yourself and an Aug Evoker and it would moatly work for example
But the same is not true for profilesets
2% for 2p, 4% for 4p
on st
and mt?
seek god
warrior buffs when? : D
~3% and 5%
oh sorry you meant mt as multitarget
not sure if we have those sims
can ask greg
1 season? dont be a pussy, been maining warr since wotlk
man up and spam your buttons
Think the hardest thing about slayer is remembering to use rend.
Definitely much happier this week. Going from a 5 grey parse to an 80-85. Huge improvement
when are thunderclap buffs hiting? : D
never
Oh no def not. Fixed my stats and proper-ish rotation
brother, do you have the input to compare all racials?
lmao i dont use advanced sim too often
take your simc input, copy paste it for as many races as you want to compare, change the race to what you want it to be
thanks! 
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-raidbots-and-run-character-simulations-6050
very useful article to start raidbots stuff
@warm crag should I still raging blow if I want to cause maximum damage to my opponent both mentally and physically?
also recommend to change the name of your character to the race, otherwise you'll get name1, name2, name3, etc
yea
thanks

do we want more mastery or haste? sims tell me to hastemaxx and im scared
dont be scared, i have 29% haste
you want whatever sims higher
how do you sim race?
Pandaren warriors winning
If 1st wep is enchanted with Arcane mastery, what should 2nd be?

how good is the Xenas rings bonus?
Ew
what is your favorite ride at six flags
Not Murican so haven't been there
Man Nexus Ring are Pain, 20
Runs in and didnt get a Single one
is slayer considerably better than Thane in raid?
i actually loathe the way slaayer players currently
is my damage breakdown bad
idk but I agree
the offbeat spinning constantly
awful
if the difference isnt significant ill take the optimal dps loss just to have a much cleaner rotation
slayer is actually fucking garbage the way it plays currently to me
To not die
Ah doesn't change even in big big pull. Thank you
Your uncapped spells are already at the top
Give us back Mechagon ring set
nexus ring set is pretty sick too tho
what key level does m+ start getting hard around
anyone who pushed up high?
I heard the jump from 12 to 13s is ruff
the difficulty kinda depends on ur gear
it feels a lot easier than the previous xpac
i don't remember easily clearing 10s at veteran and champion gear
it is
at previous xpacs
getting into keys is still the same
im trying to save my key for a buddy
is this good for us
Feels like they were gun shy on tuning with the ability pruning and addon changes
Haste mast so yeah
i think its ok to make 10s easier on the first week but this is too easy
Assuming that gives you best stats yeah
got these today got luckyh
the nexus ring set seems to sim really well
i got one of the rings
the gear sim is telling me to get the other for 700+
i was wondering for the trinket combo i see most people going gaze with heart of hunger
is that better then gaze and puzzle box
i don't feel like messing with any 2 minute trinkets
i rather run two passive
thats just me tho
yeah i feel that aswell
i keep forgetting sometimes
i even have it
so im lowkey losing so much value out of the trinket
i rolled a 99 on heart this week and somone topped it off with a 100
..
i got a mark of light trinket and didn't realize how dogshit it was until the sims
gaze is insane
so is heart for us
yes i noticed gaze is pretty nice
2s cast every 2ish minutes and it kinda lines up up with every 2nd set of cds + big numbers
i only have a champ but it still does its job
champ is more than enough
hopefully hero next week
just put the trinket button more central so you remember
man standing sitll 2 sec feels awesome
its more of macroing the trinkets together
NOT
with cds
Iβm not using that, hard pass
it does suck a bit for sure buts huge
so i made a big mistake by crafting bracers first since last time i played was dragonflight
and not having the mythic weapon is biting my ass
you are fine
thats fair
this is what im working with atm
Itβs fine but read the guide next time
you need to get yourself another hero weapon
Wow
I havenβt even done 23 keys yet
i laid off for a couple of months from work so im just tryna grind like good old days
i think i ran 70 de other side for my Overwhelminig power crystal
back in shadowland
But my attempt to take a day off from work to run keys was thwarted
but that was when i was in college lmao
best ring if you dont have the ring 2 set from nexus point (which is bis)
I got too exicted for the two set and used my catalyst on my gloves but I don't think voidclaw gaunlet is even all that
somebody said it was less than 1% of damage
yeah it is
i mean yea it is free damage
do we only use thunder clap when we have 2 charges? Or is it valid to use it with one charge
this 1?
20 m+ runs and only 1 catalyst 
use it
only look at the prio list at wowhead
Does anyone have a fix for Jundies Plater in raid?
it works fine everywhere else, but friendly nameplates break in raid
Hello, why can't i find war fury or arm on simulationcraft website ?
ic some ppl with a crafted 2hander and crafter gear piece how can we have enough sparks for that i got 4/4 and still missing 1 spark 2 craft 2nd piece after 2 hander
no one has a 2h+another crafted piece
we are at 5 this week
You can craft just not 2 sparks
Like you can do a veteran piece with an embellishment
ok we need some ppl to start crashing the market on flasks immediately
what is this 1k+ gold per r1 flask
r1 is luxury
im starting to belive that getting legs and 2 fingers from nexus point requires 100+ runs
as soon as nocturnal lotus drops in price itll plummet
60 r1 flasks right there
just the trash pulls are really nice
fury is your hard-working blue collar worker in this week's m+
Hashtag using cheap 1s cuz fuck that crew
How do they compare thane and slayer
thane is a lot better aoe slayer is a little better st
Qhat would you suggest for delve open world
either or's fine for that
Cool thanks
whichever u like more between bladestorm or thunder blastin
I like them both bladestorm felt alittlebit faster
ye should be good




