fury

[rotund ginkgo]

i laughegd

at that

pala tank: "we're not splitting first pull academy 15"

interesting

time to fuck around and find out

[spare steppe]

How did it go

[crude flicker]

Hes still in the find out stage

[rotund ginkgo]

we actually did fine

i peaked like 450k

we died on boss though cuz we didnt kill the branch in time

🙂

going agane 14

for a quick +2

[sonic snow]

why do we use odyn's fury before avatar and recklessness?

[rotund ginkgo]

sending 15 now

@sonic snow cuz its a gcd and ur gonna get odyn's again inside the cd window due to cdr

going 15 agane

with devourer this time

[sonic snow]

isnt 2 better than 1?

[smoky vale]

wym

like 2 ofs in avatar?

[sonic snow]

ye

[smoky vale]

its hard to get unless you are super lucky with tbs

[icy whale]

how many times can i use dawnlight manaflux per season realistically?

i have a 4 piece set and used the first one given by the quest, now i got another one from the 2k rio, do they now drop infinitely?

[lean nacelle]

once you get 4 set, it drops in m+ and raids

[icy whale]

but there is no cap right?

i could technically drop 8 and use 8 and drop more

[lean nacelle]

yeah probably

I don't believe there's a limit to it

[spare steppe]

Shocking but damn impressive. Pally tanks are either a god or a smear

[rotund ginkgo]

we bricked on timer now

pala died to bird like last 10s

cost us 3 edaths

tried to rescue it but

timer was ass by then

[dry hawk]

#news message

So do we just wait for the fix or wait for 4 more sparks

[dense elbow]

already lost, so just double down, tripple down and quadroople down - make a new char

[dry hawk]

Oh I have a warrior on standby in case it fucks

[livid arch]

lol i see yall just mentioned it, but are recrafts still broken atm?

i just got the myth crests i need to recraft

[mighty mesa]

looks like am a bit lucky xD

[dry hawk]

It's blizzard , when they "fix" it another bug appears

[digital mauve]

how to craft the weapon max ilvl, I use the myth crest but it is only to 272 ilvl?

[compact knot]

if they 5* it, it becomes 285

[digital mauve]

okok

[lethal quiver]

did they changed rampage sound?

the last hit seems to make no sound

[full pumice]

Whats a good dps to be simming at?

[young swan]

80k

[full pumice]

is that with bis?

[young swan]

nope thats just ~266 ilvl with 4 set

with m+ optimized pieces

ring set, seat gloves

crafted weapon, good trinkets

[full pumice]

okay thats good to know! thank you. I just simmed at 70k with non-bis gear at 260 ilvl and wanted some type of baseline

[ruby holly]

question fellas

slayer or thane?

[sullen dove]

ya 70k doesnt sound bad

thane for like everything except a few bosses in raid

but you can thane those too if you want ig

[full pumice]

ring set is the rings from nexus point?

[young swan]

yeppers

[ruby holly]

cool nice, recently made the switch from slayer to thane and its quite apparent

[young swan]

and like swordish said, 70k is pretty good

[full pumice]

sweet, im rocking some MEH weapons right now too, vers/mas and vers/crit xd

[flat river]

hehe

[sullen dove]

yea u should be able to craft a 285 weapon with stats of your choosing if you havent already

very big boost to dps

just a mild amount of myth crests u can farm out of m+

[full pumice]

what is mild like 80?

[sullen dove]

80 crests yea

u have a cap of like 170 this week

[full pumice]

oh hell yeah i got like 110

[sullen dove]

then make dat shit up

this thing is goat

u can pick haste/mast if u want tho

[full pumice]

this is my stat spread right now

[sullen dove]

you'd be able to sim which stats are better for you

[echo scarab]

during Reck, should I be slamming Rampage over bloodbath procs or always BB -> BB even if Rampage is off CD and im already enraged

[full pumice]

does the weapon category really matter or do i just focus on the stats

[sullen dove]

weapon type not at all

just polearm and axe are maybe a little harder to craft since they're raid recipes

but ppl might have it commonlyish by now

its literally just transmog whichever u wanna make

[full pumice]

this is my own amateur advice but i like slamming rampage until im out of rage and then bb procs xD

[winter shoal]

In what context? Generally there's more to it than just blindly rampage > BB or vice versa

[full pumice]

im curious about this, is this done in raidbots?

[sullen dove]

yea

u have the crafted weap and u can pick stats/embells here

tho rly no reason to sim anything without mastery

even if not crafted u just type the weapon's name into search bar and add it

[echo scarab]

Im guessing it might be smoother to the rotation to alternate BB procs in favor of dumping the rage with Rampage rather than BB 2 times back to back

[sullen dove]

you dont want to overcap rage on rampage

if rage is close to or especially at cap hit it immediately

then bb if off cd or execute

but there are occasions where u double ramp in a row

[fickle vector]

Worth upgrading my radiance crafted 2h this week and dumping crests into it?

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotations-single-target

This page generally has the answers to rotational questions

[sullen dove]

mythic crests yes

[winter shoal]

It's very difficult to answer simply rampage or BB because the answer depends on how much rage you have, how many TB charges you have as thane, if you're in single target vs aoe, etc

[icy whale]

looks good so far :D just need to farm more +10s now

[echo scarab]

this is from sim, this is in the opener, and then later into the sim it runs into a rotation like this - anecdotally I've been using BB back to back when it procs more often than not, wondering if thats just an RNG reaction or just suboptimal assuming im not overcapping rage, already enraged, etc

[full pumice]

beautiful mog and gear

[icy whale]

:D

[winter shoal]

Sending your BB back-to-back like the second screenshot is sometimes correct and sometimes not depending on your rage and TB charge situation

In reality it probably doesn't make a huge difference

[echo scarab]

im feelin that too was just curious if was a NEVER or sometimes thing

[winter shoal]

But for example

• You're at 50 rage during reck, BB is on cd -> you rampage
• You're now at 0 rage, BB is off cd -> you BB
• You had a burst of power, so now you're at 40 rage and BB is off cd -> you BB
• You're now at 80 rage and BB is off cd -> you BB
• You're now at 120 rage -> you rampage

Oh I should also have added the condition that you aren't at 2TB at any point there

[echo scarab]

yeah 2TB prio over BB

I got that

[winter shoal]

If you started at 100 rage instead of 50 though, it might look more like

• Ramp
• BB up to 80 rage
• BB up to 120 rage
• Ramp
• BB again

[echo scarab]

so basically stay as mad as possible and zug

never not be mad

[winter shoal]

Maintaining enrage is pretty much always top priority yeah

[echo scarab]

yeah Enrage 100% uptime, but its always better to be higher rage than empty on rage?

overcapping 10 rage worse than going to 0?

[winter shoal]

I think the only exception (to maintaining enrage being the top prio) currently is to refresh impWW stacks in aoe, and using TB in aoe to extend ava

[winter shoal]

I don't know about always

[echo scarab]

like worst case ontario is you have nothing high value to press for a GCD

[winter shoal]

The bottleneck is generally how fast you can generate rage, not how fast you can spend it. So if you can generate rage with a high-value generator without overcapping, that usually means that you won't have to use as many low-value generators in the future

If you're at 90 rage and can BT, that won't overcap you, and you can rampage the following gcd. If you're at 90 rage and can't BT, you should probably rampage instead of using RB

[echo scarab]

noob ass question, what is the Rampage proc that highlights the skill

[sullen dove]

just getting enough rage to be able to press it lol

[winter shoal]

Don't know, maybe frothing berserker?

[echo scarab]

you guys turn highlights off?

[winter shoal]

I do for RB

Others I leave on

[fervent turtle]

I’ve been looking at logs and was very confused trying to figure out how I’m doing BB back to back, turns out it’s a talent…

[echo scarab]

is that native UI or addon to choose highlights

[winter shoal]

It is some extreme jank that I patched into NephUI after like 10 hours of banging my head against the wall

I don't think NephUI is even still maintained at this point so I'll probably have to pivot to a different addon in the future and spend another 10 hours banging my head against the wall

[full pumice]

she has been crafted!!

[echo scarab]

w

[winter shoal]

If you use action bars instead of the cooldown manager, there's an addon called Hide Button Glow that will let you enable/disable the proc glow per-button

CDM uses a different API though

[patent topaz]

Anyone has tips for slayer in st im legit borderlining 50-60k with 261 gs

[full pumice]

spin to win

[rotund ginkgo]

cant believe rag is doing 14s with a dog licking his arm

insane guy

on stream too

[echo scarab]

is there such thing as too much of a stat for fury rn

[full pumice]

im sitting at 40% mastery so maybe?

[young swan]

40% isn that much

[echo scarab]

😂

[full pumice]

xD

[young swan]

pretty sure bis profile has like double that rating, ~55%

[full pumice]

so basically i can go even further beyond

55% woah

[winter shoal]

Yes and no, the most accurate answer will always be to sim your own character with the gear that you have available to you

[echo scarab]

is that like using the droptimizer?

[fervent turtle]

top gear

[full topaz]

for fury do we need more haste or mastery

[sour frigate]

need more sim ig

[young swan]

a shit ton of both

[full topaz]

im gearing my warrior now

this what i wroking with

[dusky dawn]

Hey guys, looking for a solution to a problem:
My ilvl 256 fury is doing 35k DPS on a dummy
Sims show 50k+ is doable, but I am unable to pull anything over 35k
Using talents from Method/IcyVeins page
Mastery 34%, haste 17%

I dont know how to improve on the rotation. I tried following the MaxDPS addon and Blizzard's rotation assist as well (they are more or less exactly same).
I read the guides several times, reading the rotations, but I cant find a flaw there.
I downed dummy's HP completely in order to go through the full execute phase as well, but best attempt was 38k

Im completely lost on how to continue.... (Arms was the same when I tried it)

[sour frigate]

run a key/raid and log it compare with better ones

[winter shoal]

Top gear is generally the most useful, but droptimizer is good for knowing what specific dungeons/raid items you're targeting

[fading sky]

also did u sim Execute parts

did u sim with buffs

[dusky dawn]

sim with raid buffs was 57k, with only warrior buff was 49k

[fading sky]

and talents check wowhead

also check prio

and dmg breakdown Pre and post execute

[dusky dawn]

The point is.... 35k is abysmal for ilvl 255, my guildies are doing 60 to 70 on dummies with those ilvls, regardless of class

[full pumice]

the gleaming ssunmote item is supposed to give you the glow on your raid tier for lfr/norm/heroic right?

[winter shoal]

Yes

[winter shoal]

Do you have any logs you can share

[full pumice]

ah for some its bugged, its telling me i already have the appearances and comments on wowhead are saying the same boooo

[dusky dawn]

I have logs from my first raid, but since it was my first raid, I was looking around me more than looking at the skillbars, so I know that was horendous performance.
Would logs from dummy shed some light? 😄
This is all I am comparing myself to: my guildies doing 60k with same ilvl on the dummy

[winter shoal]

Yeah dummy logs don't capture all of the data that raid/m+ logs do, but should be enough to look at the low-hanging fruit

[hasty grail]

Is it bad to have way more haste then mastery? I've been doing a lot of sims and seem to be wearing the right gear via top gear, but ik some people were saying it wasn't great. (1200 haste /800 mast)

[winter shoal]

Nah that's probably fine, might skew whether light's potential or recklessness pot are better for you, but otherwise trust the top gear sim

[dusky dawn]

First I thought Im just messing something up, but then spent the whole on dummy and reading guides, but I dont see anything to improve there. Pressing the buttons exactly as they appear... even if I am not flawless with the rotation, that cant make up a for a loss of almost 50% dps

[hasty grail]

how would i figure out which is better? just sim different pot choices with top gears recommended?

[winter shoal]

Yeah

P sure you can do an advanced sim for it but idk how off the top of my head, I'd have to fight with it for a while

[hidden forge]

Bro, everyone is struggeling today ? I am 260. I feel like i have huge items on by but i do so little dmg and i can't understand what i do wrong tbh, how do i log combats ? I am losing my mind

[hasty grail]

gotcha, ty I'll play with it

[dusky dawn]

Is it ok to follow the in-game rotational assist? From what Im seeing it seems to prioritize the abilities in sync with online guides

even the MaxDPS addon matches the in-game assist perfectly

[winter shoal]

I'm not sure about maxdps but I know Hekili (a similar addon afaik) completely shut down with the midnight API changes, so maxdps might literally just be a skin on the ingame assistant

I don't have specific numbers off the top of my head, but I believe the ingame assistant is like 5-10% worse than the "optimal" rotation

[full pumice]

rip my love hekili

[winter shoal]

🫗

Goated addon

[full pumice]

was so goated for ratting on alts

[hollow leaf]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-unlikely-to-restore-lost-crests-due-to-recrafting-bug-380997

[dusky dawn]

5-10% would be fine, but I'm missing 30-50% somewhere 😄

[hollow leaf]

as compared to your sim?

[winter shoal]

Share a log from ~5m on the dummy and I can take a look rq

And a target dummy sim if you could

[dusky dawn]

allright, gonna take some time, ill get back to you later

thank you

[hidden forge]

what do you use for logs? How can i get logs to look at them ?

[winter shoal]

Warcraftlogs dot com

[hidden forge]

and i simply do dmg in m+ or dummy and i can see them ?

[winter shoal]

I believe they have a walkthrough on how to save and upload logs, one second

[bitter palm]

thoughts

[undone flower]

https://warcraftlogs.com/help/start

[winter shoal]

^

[undone flower]

The website doesn’t have French version on this but sometime I forget yes

[winter shoal]

Unforgivable

Mods put happy in a blender

[undone flower]

For auto logging, you use an addon like loggerhead or mrt

[onyx linden]

5 delve wasnt a waste of time

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oy4Pnudz8eNnum7UfnFhE2 i hate that the rep trinket sims so good

[dapper meadow]

while avatar + recklessnes .. do i use spam bb with procs even rage is capped?

[hardy cargo]

no

[spare steppe]

Wowhead has an in cooldown priority list

[dense elbow]

If I press OF, why am I not top DPS send help

[winter shoal]

bro sims 10k more than me what a fucked up day

[quaint gazelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dS6ks27h8YYpyb9Kb4KZyM

no 4 set 🙁

[silent helm]

gamers... does execute oversim? hitting really close to my sim in every ability but execute im missing multiple thousand dps, within 3 minute ST it's getting 14 uses, im only getting like 6-7 in the same 3 min window

[lament atlas]

absolutely padded the shit out last boss but this was a nice lil surprise

[pliant jackal]

wtf is that eu supreme

[dense elbow]

Noize, aint pad, adds gotta die fr fr

[pliant jackal]

Disappointing we need to do better

[onyx linden]

[pliant jackal]

Are you saying sim cast execute 14 times but you only use 6 times?

You probably are losing out on the free execute procs

Sudden attack stacks up to two times

[silent helm]

yeah basically, im clicking it pretty much as soon as it lights up

[pliant jackal]

Oh shit wind fury buff

Probably in the sims

So execute procs more often

6 procs without wind fury is correct

[wind token]

20% execute buff

holy

[silent helm]

huh, that's weird, i did have skyfury unchecked but decided to do another one to test and under skyfury the sim has same amt of executes

14 with and without skyfury

[pliant jackal]

Isn’t only pvp execute

[wind token]

yeah scrolled too far lol

[pliant jackal]

So just a nerf

Why are they nerfing fury

[wind token]

?

isnt that pvp as well

[strange oyster]

Is it worth upgrading hero track weapon to 276 warriors

?

[pliant jackal]

lol did I also misread

[plush maple]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-midnight-class-tuning-for-march-31st-381003?utm_source=discord-webhook

[river nimbus]

You can upgrade your off-hand to 6/6 for free if you crafted your 285 myth crest weapon.

[strange oyster]

ah i havent done that yet

should i wait then

[river nimbus]

should do that then

[olive wraith]

I didn’t see any fury changes for pve

[compact knot]

Why are you baiting

Pvp changes

As pve changes

[pliant jackal]

Yea no changes

Arms going to get a buff tho

Execute and overpower

[upbeat plume]

will probably equate to like a 3-5% increase

[winter condor]

pvp

[pliant jackal]

I think fury is in a good spot right now

[winter condor]

https://tenor.com/view/fisher-swhing-gif-18230987

[lyric panther]

looks like arms back on the menu

[plush maple]

Not every change was specified to be pvp change

[somber thicket]

Yeah Perfect balance just take 5 fck Hunters for one bos

[plush maple]

Like BT damage for thane going down

[compact knot]

It's in the pvp category bro

It has always worked like this

[plush maple]

Oh oops

[olive wraith]

[plush maple]

Missed that part

[candid sorrel]

"we are increasing the damage from execute to increase slayer viability" - only buffs in PvP - HUH?

[plush maple]

I jumped straight down

Sorry

[compact knot]

Yeah fury doesn't need touching

It's in such a good spot

[wind token]

arms will prolly be go to on saladbar/voracious

[olive wraith]

Fury could use a touch more st

[plush maple]

Still weird to specify execute to only be increased in PvP when entire paragraph is in PvP section

[olive wraith]

But it is what it is

[pliant jackal]

It does feel it blizzard doesn’t know what to do with the spec

I seen so many different versions of arms

[compact knot]

Not true at all

[olive wraith]

Blizz can’t even balance bt/rb without making one irrelevant

[compact knot]

Salhaadar is EASILY a fury boss

[pliant jackal]

Bleed arms, blade storm arms, burst arms, execute arms, MS arms

[compact knot]

Voracius MAYBE

[pliant jackal]

Like fury seems like it stayed decently consistent

[echo rapids]

Why would you run arms on saladbar?

[compact knot]

You wouldn't

[echo rapids]

You ain’t getting that aoe pad bro lol

[compact knot]

Fury is 100x better on mythic salhaadar

[rare blaze]

If wr have 2 stacks of thunderblast do we want to let that rip even if we are over 100 rage?

We*

[wind token]

Oh yeah forgot about small orbs on salad

[valid pulsar]

bro why did you post the stuff about the jumper cable 😄

do not let em know

need em cheap 😂

[delicate fiber]

do i enchant both my 2hers?

[river nimbus]

lol. yes

[delicate fiber]

xD same enchant?

[river nimbus]

simi it

[compact knot]

Doesn't have to be same

But sim

2x acuity is good when undergeared, higher ilvl haste or mastery wep enchants become better

[delicate fiber]

tyty appreciate the help

[valid pulsar]

"Gaze of the Alnseer - Fixed an issue where the internal cooldown could occasionally be unintentionally ignored." does this reduce the trinkets value ?

[compact knot]

Not for warrior very much

Specs like spriests, demo locks, and uhdk procced it more

That hurts them way more then us

[hidden forge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rMwNnG9nBf3HWPZPCaiQ5z

is my gear that bad ? I am struggeling to get logs on dummy, i am losing my mind little by little, i think i will comint unalive tbh...

[valid pulsar]

i see

good

[dull wolf]

Hey, if we proc burst of power, what's the prio there? I can't find info in the guide or mentioned here that is at least clear to me

[winter shoal]

Burst of power doesn't change your rotation, just treat it like a normal bt/bb

[full topaz]

anyone having problem with plater cant paste inside import profile

[lofty seal]

Did arms catch up to fury in ST now with these buffs?

[dull wolf]

Thank you very much, sir

[drowsy heron]

with the 0.5 changes how much single target is slayer losing if any?

[young swan]

based on some VERY rough napkin math, ~6%

[edgy widget]

I would expect some tuning to account for the changes, once they've fully decided how they want it to play

[young swan]

that too

[edgy widget]

the biggest loss for Fury is just that you can't skip Improved Whirlwind and still do a good amount of passive cleave w/ Reap, but that's not a big concern, since most of the time when you want to cleave adds, you're running Imp WW anyway

and with the Rend change, it's quite possible we'll want Imp WW in ST as well

[olive wraith]

No talent swapping pog

[vale prism]

Hey everyone. I’ve been playing fury warrior for the first time recently and I’ve been having a hard time with my dps. I’ve watched a lot of vids and feel like I got the rotation down decent and end up doing top dps at 60-90k in most low tier mythics but when I watch vids I see a lot of fury warriors getting up to 200k dps in some fight and can never manage to even get close to that. I’m 251 item score, and my parses are super low. What is a big common thing I could be doing wrong? Cause that’s the main issue I have. Not being able to identify the problem

[olive wraith]

If you’re parsing low you probably have errors in your rotation. Post a log in #1347646810457636974

Low level keys also don’t give a fair comparison cause things die relatively quickly

[vale prism]

Okay thanks!

[olive wraith]

Fury has like no burst so you’re numbers are gonna seem lower if things die fast

[spare steppe]

Oh damn thats quite nice

[young swan]

the question was "how much damage are we losing"

[icy whale]

which 266s do you spend hero crests on?

[young swan]

to which the answer is "all of reap, minus a 20% buff to bladestorm"

[honest trail]

Tried the new ptr changes, I kinda like it

[spare steppe]

Yeah it’ll ne interesting to see what happens

[honest trail]

3min

[olive wraith]

I mean ya the gameplay changes sound positive

[honest trail]

@dense elbow loving the BS damage

[olive wraith]

It’ll come down to how they buff damage I think

[young swan]

they just gotta do something about this dogshit rng cdr

[honest trail]

On BS?

I guess

[young swan]

yeah

singlehandedly stopping me from playing that spec at all

[honest trail]

For me it's the renew of Slayer AOE

I pray

Altho 2 targets still gonna be trash

[brittle crow]

i love not having cds when i need them or being forced to waste 30 seconds of cdr because im holding

[honest trail]

3 & more will be fun

[young swan]

the fact natty executes cant provide cdr is insane

[brittle crow]

why don't u

[young swan]

legit just put an ICD on the cdr component

[dense elbow]

Why u hurt me, what I do

[young swan]

the fact it can ONLY come from SD is disgusting

[dense elbow]

[honest trail]

Existing

🫂

[dense elbow]

k

[dusky dawn]

What sim tool do you suggest? Im using SimulationCraft and its spewing nonsense, like Bladestorm being 2nd biggest hitter on single target, while its 5% in reality

[young swan]

Bladestorm being 2nd highest is correct if you account for everything provided by it

[icy whale]

[dusky dawn]

I couldnt have missed it that much :/

[icy whale]

look at the picture he posted, its the dropdown menu of bladestorm

[young swan]

yeah so

1. in game damage meters suck
2. in game damage meters SUCK

3. SimC just has a different way of breaking down damage than meters or logs

[icy whale]

5 and 2 % matches the 5 and 2% of the whirlwind part in the dropdown

[dense elbow]

Where reap proc

[young swan]

under BB and BT

[dense elbow]

Need better RNG, git Gud, or no burst

[dusky dawn]

are there any other options? 😛 recount looks not up to date

[young swan]

u just have to log

[dense elbow]

Livelog, and look up things after the fact

[young swan]

none of the damage meters are good because they use the blizzard baseline

[dense elbow]

Meters are dire

[young swan]

yeah, just have to get used to logging everything

[dense elbow]

Or dont log of look at meters

Be free

Happy

Content

[dusky dawn]

yea, wont be taken into our hc raid on weekend 😛 my i255 fury is doing 35k on dummy

[dense elbow]

I PuGd HC with my 240, you will be fine

[keen kindle]

It is impressive how bad blizzard's damage meter is atm

[dense elbow]

It is impressive indeed

A true art piece

[dusky dawn]

so 20-30k in real world.... meanwhile guildies doing 50-60k with similar gear level :/

[young swan]

what

[dense elbow]

Just pad on adds

Gg ez top

[young swan]

in what world is that the equivalence

you do more damage in raid

not less

[keen kindle]

Tbh guys

at least we aren't cooked like rogues

[dense elbow]

Well, not if he a ethical dps gamer with no pad

[spare steppe]

What is the real world

[dusky dawn]

if you know the raid, was my first run 😄 was rather preoccupied with mechanics

[young swan]

that doesnt exist in this raid

[dense elbow]

You can just go full ST, all pure boss dam

It is possible

[keen kindle]

Bladestorm in slayer

[honest trail]

Hey

[keen kindle]

demolish

[honest trail]

Respect us ethical players

[dense elbow]

Run away from adds and storm hitting only boss

It is hard work, but it is ethical

[keen kindle]

Man

yall wonna sandbag fury

[honest trail]

I do cleave unless it's above "damage reduced above x targets", then it's not worth it

To lose boss dmg

[young swan]

again

doesnt exist

[dusky dawn]

I am not comparing myself in raid environment, only did one yesterday.
What Im comparing myself is, me doing 35k on dummy, and my DH friend with same ilvl doing 70k on the same dummy :/

[young swan]

if you are being "ethical" on a fight like dragons you are actively inting your raid

[dense elbow]

If we nuke adds, others can ST

They do that better, we kill the adds

Tramwork

Trams are BiS

[nova vessel]

hi guys, one question, has anyone already ran some AA 12++ is it normal having reaaally low dps on first lust pull? or i’m doing something wrong lol i just wanna compare

[honest trail]

What's "low"

[dense elbow]

Not really, no. But remember to position inside the AoE cluster so you dont lose dps only hitting parts of em

Kinda normal to see ppl do that

[spare steppe]

Also low really varies

[dusky dawn]

which simtool do you propose?

[quiet geyser]

fury warrior with no pad is the equivalent of bringing a vegan to a hotdog eating contest

[dense elbow]

Eat vegan dogs

[undone flower]

no cleave furry

it's not a fury

[nova vessel]

problem is i don’t have any details screenshot 😭 but ill say like a 30 to 50% difference from the other dps such a mages and dks lol

[dense elbow]

It is what it is

[honest trail]

Don't compare yourself to other classes

[nova vessel]

i mean, it’s a lot

[dense elbow]

Dont worry about it, worry about overall

[high kiln]

why should we press odyns fury before recklessness and avatar?

[dusky dawn]

should we? every guide tells you something different 🙂

[dense elbow]

To lose out on potential AoE burst dam, probs

[nova vessel]

this was the overall but i just wanted to make sure im not doing something correct specially in prio buttons lol (yeah tank was above me)

[honest trail]

It doesn't really matter when you press OF

[young swan]

we shouldnt?

[honest trail]

Just press it

But before is kinda troll by just... thinking

[spare steppe]

I think pure ST Wowhead has it beforehand? Lemme check

[honest trail]

Usually it CDS's, Ramp, BB, Ramp, OF

[honest trail]

So you OF with like 7 Berserker stacks

[nova vessel]

was thinking about that lol ty anyways d:

[honest trail]

So big dmg

[young swan]

iirc archi just put it first because the difference is marginal on pure ST and its just to get enraged

[honest trail]

That's not an opener or linign up cd

[dense elbow]

Archi just sandbagging OF true value

[young swan]

yeah this isnt an ordered rotation list, its just priority. This means that you press OF on CD always

[honest trail]

It's just "use it on cd"

UNless it's like close to others cd's

[high kiln]

ok

[honest trail]

Guides are simplified

As they are meant for every level of play

[spare steppe]

Right right

gonna be sad next season watch OF be useless again

[dense elbow]

No

Cause buffs

[honest trail]

OF is not that interesting

[dense elbow]

And new tierset

U will see

[undone flower]

bs 20% buff in 6 weeks

[spare steppe]

I swear if we have 2 seasons of OF tier

Don’t you wish that juju on us

[dense elbow]

I dont need to wish

I serve

[undone flower]

i think they will do apex tier sets at some point

[honest trail]

It's not like we are not gonna play fury anyway

[dense elbow]

The time of Ravager is over, the time of OF has come

[tropic perch]

OnlyFans?

[sullen cloak]

Should i still run crucible of eratic energies trinket?

It is simming top for me still

[undone flower]

ravager>bs

[honest trail]

Disgusting

[young swan]

,

is that aoe?

if its aoe i would disagree but it probably still doesnt matter

[gleaming juniper]

i had no idea about these

are they good lol

[bronze elm]

ya its bis

[bitter palm]

0 stat loss for free damage

[bronze elm]

how is it that this shit and crucible constantly sim the best for me? Are all the others really that crap?

[spare steppe]

No they’ll do RB cause they’ll say “we feel like raging blow isn’t being used enough and we don’t know why”

[marble swift]

last boss in void doesnt drop a tier token?

[remote bobcat]

no

[marble swift]

holy rip off

[remote bobcat]

Why is it a rip off? Its not the last boss of the tier

[marble swift]

yeah but they time gate it to all hell

[remote bobcat]

Yea and we get catalyst drops randomly

So lile

Like

Cmon

[marble swift]

after you get 4pc

[remote bobcat]

Just go lfr

For 4pc

[rare blaze]

Quick question guys. Are we using thunderblast with 2 stacks even if we are above 100 rage?

2 charges rather

[winter shoal]

aoe yes, single target no

[rare blaze]

Perfect, thank you!

[stone jewel]

And roll against 7 udks and 5 rets… great odds… surefire way to get 4 pc

[olive wraith]

Did they change tokens?

[patent topaz]

in st only thunder blast procs right?

[remote bobcat]

No u get ur guild to join you with plate alts

😂

[patent topaz]

what priority does bloodbath/bloodthirst have?

[olive wraith]

Can you clarify

[patent topaz]

like when im in a st fight i pop my cds then i get the procs for thunder clap

[stone jewel]

Only reliable way is leading an NHC pug an not inviting plate Classes…

[patent topaz]

basically i want to use them when im not above 100 rage right?

[desert zodiac]

i think its only use it <100 and when bloodthirst and execute arent available

or you have two stacks of the proc

then it becomes prio over both i think

[leaden scarab]

Super stupid question, for M+ build (thane) - we're basically just spamming bloodthirst and all but ignoreing raging blow, correct?

And slayer its the opposite

[drowsy heron]

wait, if they buff RB going into the 0.5 patch that could mean we go back to RB spam for Slayer?!?!?!

[drowsy heron]

RB is pure filler now, its too weak to be a prio button

[humble plover]

dont ask about the wrists and wep its not a thing we are gonna talk about, but the m+ grind is over

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-emotiguy-emoji-picardia-rjumen-gif-4808348859172097493

[humble plover]

dont

assume warrior brain in full effect

[brisk girder]

good morning 🙂 do arcane mastery on my weapon make sense twice as a fury ?

or do i use 1x acrane mastery and 1x berserk ?

[pulsar quest]

Sim it

[little cosmos]

with puzzle box. how do we throw it into our opener

[warm crag]

what the fuck happened here

[humble plover]

math but wrong

i was doing some thinking things but man am i duuuumb

its ok, all is good on tuesday for when harder bosses are on the menu anyways

[hexed wave]

Anyone know if theres an equivalent to jumper cables this expac?

[fickle cedar]

why are all the bosses thane on mythic

it does feel like pad city

[frank dawn]

Because Slayer has no real benefit.

When you get good rng it’s barely better than Thane even in situations it’s supposed to be good at.

And when it has bad rng it’s just worse at everything, and less consistent pull to pull

[glossy lichen]

pre sure its the same, convincingly realistic jumper cables

[young swan]

think its something something soul conduit

[hexed wave]

says it cant be used above level 80

[hexed wave]

Found it by searching soul on the AH, Emergency Soul Link. Thanks!

[young swan]

make sure u get the higher quality, i heard something about lower rank having a longer cast time?

i was half paying attention when my friends were talking about it

[hexed wave]

This is correct, not sure what the specific time difference is but the description mentions higher quality having a lower cast time

[tawny sonnet]

Also i dont like the loss od control with Bladestorm

[willow heath]

Hi was curious, how did
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/illidan/Wallifetree
already has a mythic chest ?

(he wasnt in the crown of cosmos grp that killed her)

[latent hedge]

mythic chi

[worn rain]

more like he has heroic crest achiev

[willow heath]

what's a chi

[tranquil echo]

chimaerus

[willow heath]

ohhhhh

im dumb

so sorry for waste of air guys

[tranquil echo]

silly questions happen, no biggie

[tawny sonnet]

That got dark

[heavy blaze]

Having Hero Helm Tier, (2) Hero Shoulder tier (2) Neck (3) and Belt (2) and Boots (3) and RIng (3) would should I upgrade with my hero crests? Weps are already 6/6 hero and I'll make mythic wep next week

[rare blaze]

building off an earlier question but are we using bloodbath even if over 100 rage or do we want to rampage there?

[umbral gull]

guys in my chest i have

shoulder set hero or trinket chimaerus hero

what i'm suppose to take pls

[smoky vale]

clear raid first

see if you can get 4p

then if nothing

[worn yoke]

No ST buff for fury is sadge. Only a matter of time till warcraftlogs starts to remove inconsequential add damage from the logs and the truth is revealed

[smoky vale]

maybe 4p vs trinekt you probably wont replace and will heavily contested on

[worn yoke]

Give back the 50% white hits you took from us

[lean valley]

So is fury still better than arms for M+?

[graceful rapids]

Also boe

Possibly

[signal jolt]

when we sim for M+ do we just add more bosses to patchwork or do dungeon slice

[obsidian venture]

How do you correctly utilize the academy trinket as fury?

[summer quail]

Right before cds

[obsidian venture]

so basicly pop the trinket then your cd macro?

[summer quail]

Yes

[undone flower]

this char killed 3 myth bosses, i guess a random chest drops from one

since any chest is your best chest

chimaerus has the chest token

[jolly flower]

Just crafted my two-hander up to Myth and expected the free upgrades on my other weapon. It does not appear to be working, I swear it worked last week when I first crafted the weapon. Did Blizzard change something or am I just dumb?

[graceful rapids]

Maybe log out and log in again

[jolly flower]

So it should work?

Whew fixed it. Thank you for being my "basic IT check" guy.

[graceful rapids]

👍

[gleaming juniper]

Gnome is actually so useful for this season M+

I went gnome for PvP and have found multiple uses for it so far, biggest one in PoS you can break out of the bat thing

[wintry karma]

Worked for me on patch night

[smoky vale]

what bat thing

[sudden tusk]

when the bat picks you up its technically a root

so root breaks can save you from it

[raw canyon]

What spec for Mythic Imperator I like MT what yall thinking

[young swan]

thane

[sudden tusk]

Most cleave fights thane does well

i ran slayer on Voracius for more ST but that ones kind of a tossup

[gleaming juniper]

you can sim the ST diff between Thane and Slayer and its really nowhere near as large of a gap as it used to be

if you like playing Thane more you can play it pretty much any fight that has any adds

[upbeat plume]

thane just feels good to play slayers rng is a little painful to me

[eager thorn]

what key level do ppl think its worth to drop massacre for ER?

not sure how much of a dps loss it is/if healers should be doing good enough in 12/13s

[chilly gulch]

guys, to improve my dmg i need to press more odyns fury, right?

[crimson pasture]

Odyn on Cd

more Thunder

[chilly gulch]

Let's say my Reck and Avatar CD is at 30 seconds, is it still worth pressing Odyn?

[keen kindle]

We cannot help you with a damage breakdown really

Any help would be feelsycraft at best. Get us a log

[sullen dove]

way more blood bath probably

well assuming st ig

cant rly tell

[lament lagoon]

Anytips for first boss Mythic

[sullen dove]

dps maybe too high prolly ao

[dapper goblet]

[sullen dove]

cd pull, add 1, add 2, on cd, should come up for add 3, and add 4

[lament lagoon]

perf

thane all day

[warm crag]

@sullen dove why did they fix the crest recraft bug?

[sullen dove]

idk they should have kept the system that deletes 80 of the most valuable crests in the game

[warm crag]

👍

[sullen dove]

and refuse to put 1 ounce of effort into giving them back

[warm crag]

noobish

[sullen dove]

yes

[dapper goblet]

careful

[sullen dove]

must not go down the path of xeos

stay strong

[warm crag]

would you use this

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-1506407869824367367

[warm crag]

i had a terrorist not use theirs for 35 minutes on victor

[dapper goblet]

you wouldnt understand

[warm crag]

man was saving the souls for the next game

[dapper goblet]

they'll buff it again next patch

[warm crag]

dont like current patch

they just brought out celeste busted af and instead of nerfing her they just buffed everyone so i cant play any of the characters i like playing

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/rem-rem-deadlock-deadlock-lash-lash-deadlock-gif-7384772685200041820

[warm crag]

https://giphy.com/gifs/deadlock-rem-epicedster-HZmoyGHgRG4Vl4MBdT

[lament lagoon]

but then whos gna design the toilet seat cover decor

[dapper goblet]

why does my 0-15 rem keep taking the sinners

[warm crag]

he needs the stat buffs

15 death minute 40 rem egg power spike

gun rem

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/business-man-leon-short-gif-21636355

[supple glen]

30+ m9 and higher, no upgrade

fuck this game

[sullen dove]

well yea m10s give 266 gear

263 not much better than m0 normal ilvl gear

[supple glen]

im like all 250

no but this is ridiculous

[dapper goblet]

you're tellin me you do 30 in a row and didnt get a single piece of gear

kappa chungus penis deluxe

[sullen dove]

[supple glen]

no upgrades, got a wep

[lament lagoon]

who wants a wowtoken

[supple glen]

i got a shit back too but wasnt an upgrade per se, just hero

[compact knot]

tbf that aint that crazy

with what has happened with me and nexus point

[sullen dove]

well yea but thats going for 1 item vs like... 8 on that loot pool

tho i did go forever without getting pants too

2/8 for me gg

got both in the end tho

poggers

[supple glen]

im not counting crit/ versa back with the same ilvl as my haste/mastery champion

[compact knot]

5/7 items from nexus point are upgrades for me

[sullen dove]

gg

[dapper goblet]

well he said he's all 250..

[compact knot]

ive only gotten the rings and wrists with most runs being a plate stack

gg

yeah nah thats a little crazy

[sullen dove]

yo ill funnel ring if u get my lock in some vodka alt mythics ty

[compact knot]

idk when we doing alt mythics

maybe in 2x weeks

[sullen dove]

gg

[dapper goblet]

pugging on alts is doomed

[sullen dove]

yes

like chimerus could be done by like amputated sheep i feel like

but maybe still too hard for a first 2 mythic pug group

[dapper goblet]

sign up to +10 relaxed skyreach leader with 700 score

mmmmmmm declined

[sullen dove]

better up that score lil gup

mickey mouse io points

[warm crag]

arms 20% aura buff

[dapper goblet]

unpossible challenge for an alt

[sullen dove]

run your own key 4headge

[dapper goblet]

aint pushin a 2

goober shit

[sullen dove]

get funneled a 10 from a main

[dapper goblet]

lets get a mute on swordish

[sullen dove]

done

you guys have any heroic split piggy spots left or did em all assuming

[supple glen]

im telling myself, getting declined is polite bc then i can queue for others

[modest condor]

probably know who you are

[sullen dove]

also possible

[dapper goblet]

i am very well known

[compact knot]

none

[dapper goblet]

both good and bad

[compact knot]

mostly bad

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[compact knot]

https://tenor.com/view/ozek-gif-15182913909099391439

[sullen dove]

if my eyes turn run.... red.

[compact knot]

saw this shirt in my college class yesterday

and no i wasnt wearing it

[supple glen]

i wish i could fire-emoji react

[modest condor]

dont worry i got you

[supple glen]

hell yea

[hoary crystal]

do we still play on ST with the rampage macro to cancelaura ww?

[sullen dove]

unless you take the awful talent no one ever takes, no

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/guroteske-emo-wolf-gif-26967313

[undone flower]

still no gloves

[modest condor]

im still playing with blue legs and ring xd

[undone flower]

our evoker recleared this week with still a blue chest smh

[balmy flicker]

bro my ST as thane is horrendous in M+

does fury scale better with gear?

[graceful rapids]

We do not scale better than any other class.

[sullen dove]

i love scaling

[graceful rapids]

Or worse for that matter.

So time to reroll

Or just weather the storm

Shit storm that is

[balmy flicker]

cool. great info

(y)

[noble pulsar]

just power through being lower on the ranking and then make fun of the s tier classes you beat in dps

[brittle mauve]

K so for high target count in CDS we do ramp and TC or TB. In finding that after ramp I'm waiting a bit for the latter abilities. Are we not sending a bloodbath in that micro down time? Does anyone know what I'm talking about ?

It feels awkward to send ramp and wait for clap or blast to come up...or am doing it wrong together

[sullen dove]

there should be basically no downtime

to just be able to ramp > tc > ramp > tc

[brittle mauve]

Well it's less than a GCD but after ramp I'm able to press bb but not TC or TB

I wonder if it's my haste ?

I'm likely over thinking it

[sullen dove]

uhhh i mean perchance but idk dont think ive ever come across somethin like that

[winter shoal]

Do you have storm surge talented

[brittle mauve]

Yes

[winter shoal]

Is your avatar active

[brittle mauve]

Ya this is when I'm popping off

[winter shoal]

TC is a hasted cd so you should have it exactly every other gcd during avatar with storm surge

[brittle mauve]

It's just this weird timing between what is supposed to be a super simple two button weave

Frig ok

[winter shoal]

Do you have like a video or something of this happening

[brittle mauve]

I will tomorrow it's bedge for me

[sullen dove]

i feel something like that kind of with BB during lust

it doesnt put a number over the cd of bb like it normally does which is kinda annoying as hell

cuz it makes it seem like you can BB > ramp > BB

but it is like half a global off or something

[uncut pine]

Yo Guys, what % ist Slayer worse Than MT for M+?

[sullen dove]

probably like over 10

still fine for like 10s and such if u rly like playing it

[uncut pine]

I saw noxiv doing Just fine with Slayer

[sullen dove]

yea i mean he'll always do well

just will undoubtedly do better as thane

but he doesnt care to

which is ok

[brittle mauve]

Yes

[uncut pine]

True...thats a Kind of different player

[lean osprey]

Chat is arms better in keys now

Or even?

[modest condor]

the word you're looking for is despite

he would do even better with thane

[vivid pollen]

Are these new arms buffs enough to dethrone fury?

[deft palm]

Are people just taking MT every fight now

[ripe kelp]

I am because I'm lazy

[deft palm]

Whats your item level? And how much dps do you pull

Im trying to get used to MT

[cedar kraken]

What is the difference between thane and slayer for keys? i see some keys being done by thane and some as slayer. is there a direct reason to use one or the other?

[cerulean kayak]

how many targets to start aoeing? i read 4 but cant find it anymroe in the guide

[unborn delta]

w slop pug

[olive wraith]

2

[sullen dove]

7 to start spamming tclap if thats what u mean

[supple glen]

is the blizzard dmg meter unusable trash or are my few addons fucking with it

constantly resets halway through a fight, displaying a full dungeon just puts people in i did other ids of the same dungeon etc

[worldly gulch]

What’s rotation priority for sub 7 mobs then?

[supple glen]

you use up your ww stacks before clapping again

[worldly gulch]

Mine functions fine as long as I’m on top of it…so it’s probably broken

[gleaming marlin]

@sullen dove

dont switch up

im watching frozonbozo flaming people in arms channel

stay humble

[sullen dove]

🙏

[sudden tusk]

glorpish

[stiff maple]

hello, is anyone else having an issue with the cd of reflect just not tracking

specifically im using ayije cdm

it seems to have broke whenever blizzard pushed the newest addon api stuff recently

ok actually i just updated and it fixed lol my fault

[unborn delta]

next week we crafting bracers? or i could craft cloak instead

[sudden tusk]

depends on what you can get

[unborn delta]

i guess bracer craft is better than cloak so you can use the socket on it

[sudden tusk]

it doesnt track properly sometimes where it will only show the CD once its active time is over

[stiff maple]

maybe but that wasn't wat was happening to me

i thought i had updated my addons today but i hadn't

[unborn delta]

yea nah

the timers on a bunch of stuff was broken

even my gcd wasnt working a few days ago in bartender i had to go to default ui for a bit

[stiff maple]

ion hazzikostas' vision

[quartz knot]

do you have tier pieces? my dmg is so low. im only averaging 64-70k overall. it's so bad lol

[stiff maple]

whats your ilvl

[quartz knot]

253

no tier but i feel that shouldnt matter at all

[stiff maple]

tier and more ilvl will help but thats definitely not all your issue

[quartz knot]

im using rough wowhead prio list

[stiff maple]

overall is also a very scuffed metric sometimes

[quartz knot]

i prio bt over rb and thunder clap/blast like a madman on big pulls lolo

sometimes exe as well in between. but i know my odyns fury timing with cds is lacking too

gotcha, im just trying to get a guesstimate with other players

[stiff maple]

as long as you keep trying to follow the prio list you'll get there

[simple mural]

warlock is cracked

[sullen dove]

it do be kinda cool

[unborn delta]

I’m simming 82k st with thane m+, have 4p+alnseer+ancient hunger

[unborn delta]

Tbh I should be doing more but I stray from the prio/don’t hold avatar for next pack/stupid stuff like that a lot

[quartz knot]

may i see your break down?

[unborn delta]

I’m in bed on my phone so I don’t got one

[quartz knot]

np

[unborn delta]

It’s probably something like
Rampage—————————
Tblast——————
Bloodthirst——-

[quartz knot]

gotcha!

during cd phase i usually try not to press rbs and prio the bts more

[unborn delta]

One thing helped me is watching critcake keys because he has the gcd tracker so you can see what he’s pressing

[quartz knot]

if that makes sense

gotcha

[grim prism]

do you guys prioritize upgraded bloodthirst over rampage even if you're capping rage

[unborn delta]

No don’t waste rage ever

[white mortar]

What item sets should I be crafting?

Or does it not matter?

[cerulean kayak]

nah i mean when to use aoe, which number of enemies

[worn yoke]

fury doing fine/great in keys. ST is still low though, but sustain is awesome and dps every pull.

[sullen dove]

truth nuke

[undone flower]

2

[cerulean kayak]

ty mate

[drowsy heron]

just go slayer

[undone flower]

We have basically 0 passive cleave so hitting ST rotation will do nothing at all to other targets so 2 you start AoE rotation

Thane has more passive cleave but still 2

[drowsy heron]

moreso that Thane just cleaves cause of its rotation

[undone flower]

You will do way less cleave if you are doing ST thane rotation still

[worn yoke]

I want to. How many specs for their TWW S3 tier set baked into their trees... Yet Slayer fury did not and it was one of the absolute best.

[light basin]

for sims with Darkmoon Dominion: Hunt, what stat buff is the sim assuming we're getting?

[slim coral]

gotta lock in bud

115k was easy coudl of easily hit 130k but had another warrior in

[sullen dove]

massive 2 day late reply

we just ctrl + f'ing baze or something

"oo whos talm bout me"

[undone flower]

1 day*

Now you know you just need to say baze to be noticed soredih

[slim coral]

you didn't at me at all

how was I suppose to see it!

[sullen dove]

cuz i was askin khaz who also killed the boss

and just happened to mention your name when i saw u did like 50k more dps on that than on vorasius

both of which are effectively the same st boss on normal

so clearly sum was up with FK

and yea bro has 50% of his dmg to adds 😭

seems fun

[sudden tusk]

stinky pad tier

[slim coral]

yeah our vaorasius was cursed

we took our ads out to narnia

[sullen dove]

yea you have to

[slim coral]

so I could not get my value of my cds on ads at all

[sullen dove]

to not die

[slim coral]

yeah but ours went extra far from normal

[sullen dove]

ngl if i got add fixate set 1 i wanted to blow it off

so cringe having to stand out there for half a minute

lose infinite damage

[slim coral]

from a lot of the top parses on vora they took the ads far but not out of hitbox of boss

but parses on prog dont matter anyway

as long as boss is dead who cares

[sullen dove]

yea dont even mean add dmg

i hated being off boss

for any reason

cuz boss wasnt gonna die

still didnt

[lean osprey]

are we able to craft 2 weapons? and if so is that what we send it on?

[sullen dove]

you cant and you never should

1 weapon only

[lean osprey]

very well

we send bracers according to faq yeah? 2h > bracers

[sullen dove]

yea bracers or like even cape/belt/boot are all ok alternatives

whichever might end up simming higher or depending on myth vault/boss drops, like first boss myth is p decent bracer so maybe smart to make somethin else

[lean osprey]

for sure

thank you sir

[sullen dove]

cant make until next week anyway

[winter condor]

I was thinking about sending a cape instead since bracers drop off 1st myth boss but /shrug

[exotic totem]

Hello guys, how do I sim for m+? do I use Dungeon slice?

[slim coral]

imo its better to just sim ST 5 mins

[worn yoke]

I'm going a cloak coz haste / mast bracers and boots from first 2

[cinder oasis]

are we getting another dawnlight manaflux next week?

[sullen dove]

yes

[cinder oasis]

nice

[sullen dove]

yeap

guaranteed 4pc if u just get 1 tier out of raid

which surely by 3rd week of raid everyone wins the rng for it..

[smoky vale]

meow

[gleaming marlin]

heard gaze got hotfixed bug fix nerf

[hybrid yew]

99% Parse on normal dragons fight 😎

[sullen dove]

chad

[split comet]

Grats

[jolly tundra]

I got 2x 263 weapons, should I be crafting a weapon? Can I guarantee a 272?

Only just came back in midnight so I'm clueless haha

[smoky vale]

you should craft a 285 weapon if anything

[sullen dove]

yes

[smoky vale]

then you can freely upgrade your offhand

after a short log out and log in

[jolly tundra]

Oh right, what do you need to craft a 285?

[sullen dove]

4 sparks, 80 myth crests and the rest of the mats

can see by typing in “blood-knight’s” or something like that in crafting order search bar and picking a weapon they should all be the same mats by now tho

Like 10 of 1 alloy 8 of another + some other crap

[smoky vale]

good wya to do myth crests is tier 11 delve and a key

and doing ??

thats half of thr required ones

[sullen dove]

need r4 delve track for t11 still takes some work

[smoky vale]

nah from the cracked key

q

[sullen dove]

yea

[exotic totem]

so I use m+ talents and sim ST 5 mins? no buffs and BL right? thanks in advance

[smoky vale]

you would use ap and lust and whatever other buff you would ahe in that group

or just ap and lust if you dont know

[mystic echo]

question for embellishments

Currently Hunt on weapon is simming higher than Devouring Bolt
as far as I understand Hunt gives 56 secondary for 15s but would only give mastery against human/dragon, and haste on Aberation/Ele/demon
but Devouring Bolt would just always give 91 mastery for 10s every time
is there a major difference in proc rate (and duration) over time that i'm missing

or like, Primal Spore sims higher than Dev bolt on bracers but its just flat damage?

[somber elk]

can anyone tell me what the addons called that puts a circle around your mouse?

[summer quail]

ultimate mouse cursor

[keen nimbus]

is it just me, although i really like slayer build. it just lacks in m+ compared to some other classes

[somber elk]

ty

[smoky vector]

Hi all warriors!

I’m wondering how the rotation is changing when you get the 4-set bonus. I saw on some stream, that on m+ on trash warrior constantly uses Rampage > Thunder Clap > Rampage > Thunder Clap … after Odyn’s Fury, skipping bloodbath or crushing Blow.

Is the reason only to reduce cooldown on OF, or there is some other reason?

I started thinking that rampage decreases the CD of Odyns Fury, but also it makes it harder of 10% for each rampage usage. Is that possible?

[sly pasture]

That’s the same priority with or without 4 set on 6+ targets I think.

It’s more to do with thunder clap doing mad aoe damage

[smoky vector]

Ok thanks a lot ❤️ I think I misunderstood the thunder clap then and I used it only for Improved Whirldwind buff :/

[sly pasture]

Yeah I mean I imagine that’s how it’s meant to work from the class design but thunder clap is too good 😂

Below 6 targets and outside of CDs then you do use it for WW buff

[deft palm]

How accurate are logs? Should I be doing the exact same damage as it says or are logs best case scenarios?

[upbeat cedar]

Logs or sims?

Sims are best case from a large sample size. You should be able to do within 5% of a sim

Simming patchwerk you have to account for the fact that in most cases you are not fighting patchwerk and will lose uptime/do boss mechanic

[long sun]

Good morning people, i have a quick question
on Icy veins or Wow head, Bis off hand is either the Craft Polearm or the two handed sword but never the Axe, why is that ? (attached are screenshots of each weapon at quality 1 because i forgot to change the quality while taking the screenshots)

[keen kindle]

Axe is more expensive is my guess?

Or people just like the belf look over the axe

[fading sky]

I hate it

[fading sky]

Also axe is a raid drop recipe

[long sun]

so in this case i'd just go for the axe ? also since its the first time i'm using this system how much do people expect in commissions from these crafts ?

[fading sky]

Always take the mog u wsng

[mystic echo]

i guess 60% uptime on 56 haste or mastery is better than 30% uptime on 91 mastery D:

but like... whats the likelihood of hitting only human/dragon and aberation/elemental and not beasts and undead...?

[fading sky]

So ive been paid from 2k-20k

Like usual is 10% of mat price id say, but honestly. What u can afford m8

With flasks at 1500g per pop i dno man

Wows misses bots🤣

[long sun]

do you play in EU ? so i'd just send you the order directly haha

[fading sky]

Sadly server only🥲

Or in guild orders

[long sun]

fuck.

thanks anyways man

good help

[fading sky]

But as i said most ppl take what u can afford😄

Im down 700k anyways cos i gambaed and lost in proffesions

Next expansion im just gonna mine and herb

[dense elbow]

Ppl already do it for free in trade, just give em a polite 2k for their time. They get gold from the craft itself

[sullen dove]

look at the current raid tier

[silk wharf]

I feel you there. I only did enchanting but the prices cratered whe nthe season released like people had been holding on to thousands of the rare mats.

[tropic forum]

How do u guys sim this raid? Was thinking of all the cleave bosses

[fading sky]

St

Like nothin rly changes for fury

[tropic forum]

Alrighty, was thinking if patchwerk + 3 -5 bosses would be the way

[gloomy heart]

I was wondering, since I was tracking WW stacks with a weakaura. Since WA got nuked what's the best way to keep track of the stacks?

[fading sky]

Sensei recourcebar

And luxthos cdm setup

Check his hp

[gloomy heart]

hp?

Is it either or, or do they work together?

[fading sky]

Sametime

U know nukin wa

= we use a milion addons

Who wouldda thought that

[gloomy heart]

LOL right?

[fading sky]

That being said

Game runs way better

Less janky codin

At least my game is night and day

Vs tww

[silk wharf]

You can also use the dedicated improved whirlwind tracker someone (Hawke I think) made. It accounts for both the rampage delay and the Tclap delay.

[gloomy heart]

I saw my friend running m+ yesterday and his UI had this WA looking center thing and I desperatly need one

I feel kind of naked without it

[silk wharf]

If it was a bar with 4 sections it was probably one of those.

[gloomy heart]

He was playing a warlock

So it was like the thing you just went to wago for back in the day

[silk wharf]

Like the cooldown manager?

[gloomy heart]

Guess you could call it that

[silk wharf]

I mean, thats what that is. Yo ucan just go turn it on in game baseline.

Its a worse weakaura package.

[fallen ginkgo]

Hey, does anyone know how far thane is ahead of slayer?

[fading sky]

St behind

Aoe infront esp the bigger the key

[gloomy heart]

There is a problem, I'm in Edit mode and Cooldown manager is checked off and I can't check it on

It just says it's currently disabled and I can enable it in advanced options, but I'm in advanced options lol

Oh I think I got it, my bad

[quartz musk]

Guys, how is Fury looking so far in the first mythic week?

[remote bobcat]

check wcl

[quartz musk]

whats wcl? 😕

[gloomy heart]

Warcraft logs

But we got 4 fury's in the top 20 on nexus king

For example

[summer quail]

not enough mythic samples yet

[gloomy heart]

also that, sample size is very small

[quartz musk]

I was more interested in mythic + dungeons

[supple glen]

fury is cooked, reroll devourer today