#fury

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rare garnet
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nah, in modern wow all things are cleave, make cleave a generator

compact knot
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mop was peak arms

rare garnet
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so i can just spam cleave

compact knot
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cleave is useless as fuck in mop though

undone flower
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Mop was 50 years ago, you can say arms was never peak at this point

wicked scarab
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Classic is right next door to be fair lol

compact knot
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its the current classic expansion

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so...

rare garnet
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its like old historical documents talking about a great mountain, but it was just a hill because no one back then had ever seen a real mountain

compact knot
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not really nostalgia when ive never played original mop and just classic mop

median dust
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They really should make rend a free rage cast and that would be awesome

sullen dove
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i think u mean i enabled these two lesser individuals to play to their full potential

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u wont find another tank in the game pulling that dungeon like i pulled it

lusty perch
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Does puzzlebox not sim correctly for fury? I have a hero track but sims say its a 2% dps loss to use.

hexed bone
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what crafted gear did you guys make for fury?

lusty perch
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when i have two champ trinkets

sullen dove
lusty perch
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2h

hexed bone
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ok

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does the quality of the mats matter?

lusty perch
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depends on the crafter. usually yes

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whisper a Blacksmith and ask if they need max ranks mats

runic violet
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TipTac keeps crashing. Any alternative?

spare steppe
full sail
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Does it matter what type of 2h you craft? Or is it all the same/just aesthetic?

icy whale
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what do you guys use for interrupts? i'm not really sure how to optimize my macros etc...

runic violet
hollow owl
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is it worth spending the 80 hero crests on crafting a weapon if I’m going to recraft to the myth ilvl one before reset?

my current weps are a champion 263 and a hero 263 Savage Briaredge

modest condor
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no

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may as well throw 80 hero crests in the trash

runic violet
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wait until 80 mythic

hollow owl
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okie dokie

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ty yall

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better to hold off on upgrading the hero weapon too right until after craft? cuz it’ll be free?

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i’ll spend the 80 crests on upgrading my hero tier pieces I suppose then

fading sky
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Yes helm-chest-legs-trinkets

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3/6 items

summer quail
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need shaman to not starve. if you have shaman it's fine, no shaman shit is dire

hollow owl
fading sky
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3/6 hc

hearty ravine
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should I go arcane mastery on both weapons, or something else?

copper parcel
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arcane mastery on main hand berserker rage on off hand

hearty ravine
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I've seen some people running acuity rather than arcane mastery, anything to that? I would think mastery would be better than 66 str.

summer quail
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things are different from person to person

hearty ravine
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gotcha, thanks

hollow owl
icy whale
hollow owl
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why is that?

forest tapir
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Is there any point in NOT using Avatar and Recklessnes in one macro?

icy whale
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lets say your tier set hero helmet is 2/6 at 263, but you get a 3/6 helmet dropped

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then you can upgrade your tier set helmet to 266 for free

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so it would be a waste of your capped crests, because you can "farm" them by just farming the free ilvl upgrades

safe carbon
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Hey guys how much of a dps loss is not using rend on slayer? I know it scales with target count but was curious in m+ how big the hit is. Doesn't seem like in raiding it's that big of a deal

forest tapir
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yay

fading sky
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What he said😄, 3/6 is obtained from 10s which are pretty easy

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So sendin loads of upgrades seems wastefull

hollow owl
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ahh okie, ty all!!

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I’ll have to queue up some 10s over the weekend then

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haven’t done any yet so a little nervous about getting into groups

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especially since i swapped toons and i’ve only played s1 of tww

glossy lichen
forest tapir
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We don't press raging blow alot anymore do we?

spare steppe
summer quail
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armor leg kit not in raidbots?

gaunt loom
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guys i tc more than 6 targets during cooldowns, then what about outside cooldowns? is it same?

oak raven
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how does slayer look with the new changes?

chrome summit
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In aoe wo only tc if ww stacks drop of? Or if it light up

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How do we do in st mplus build with tc? When it light up only?

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Cause i feel like my aoe is good but my st is below others.

cerulean nacelle
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fury change wont be live till .5 patch?

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or

upper wigeon
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Trying to get into M+ groups is rough

wary salmon
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Waited an hour for a tank so i mean it be what it be

native wadi
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Is anyone progressing voralus myth?

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Total lack of dmg

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Im going arms on this one, has anyone went fury?

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We enraged the boss a few times 10-15%...

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Vorasius*

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our average ilvl is 266/7

glossy lichen
full topaz
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you hate to see it

ripe kelp
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Oh god finally got my myth crests

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Is the recraft bug ONLY on crafting orders?

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Can I.. recraft my own weapon and not have a chance to lose these damn crests

dusk bramble
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I recrafted for my guildie and for myself and no buggy happened

ripe kelp
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Sweet

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There we go got my myth track weapon aaaaaaaa

dusk bramble
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Congrats mate ^^

slim pollen
dusk bramble
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It worked? It worked so thats the best logic 😄

mighty hollow
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Hey guys, already have 6/6 hero bracers. Can i craft a 285 cloak next week instead ? Is there a difference ? 🤔

somber thicket
undone flower
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you need to ask if he raid

hardy bluff
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you can make a cloak if you want

tired bane
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You can do whatever you want Arms

mighty hollow
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Okay, my bracers got haste/mastery and i dont plan to MM Raid so I think i’ll go for the cloak craft. Thanks 🙏

heavy dock
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is cloak and wrist lowest stat budget items? or is waist/boots there too?

median cypress
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Does the gaze of the alnseer fix make it less bis?

bleak topaz
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Mercy or warblade? 🤔

light orchid
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What do i drop to take enraged regeneration as a defensive option if my healer cant keep up with my mad damage to death ratio

brittle vale
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hey guys I was watching critcake

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how do I get his cooldown manager setup

reef vapor
light orchid
sudden tusk
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rampaging ruin is god awful do not spec into it

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can be okay for slayer, but its hard grief for thane

light orchid
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im in slayer

radiant plank
smoky vale
radiant plank
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oui

sudden tusk
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nelf man

digital mauve
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Regular ThunderClap got top priority ( Besides being Enragés with Rampage) when we have cooldowns + 6 target + right ? What about without cds ? Also sometimes it's hard to see if there's 5 or 6 targets, got an addon for it ? Or just TC with CD even at 5targets?

dense elbow
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When in doubt, just clap

radiant plank
cerulean junco
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why does wowhead say haste > mastery in priority but puts the mastery gem over the haste gem as preferred?

proud vessel
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Only now do i have time for M+ but no one want to do a +2... if i do a higher key can i then reroll mine to the same level?

flat river
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you have to raise your key

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rerolling only changes dung

flat river
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race change human

shy knot
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Race change orc

heavy dock
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go zandalari chad :P

flat river
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ALL OF YOU

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ARE WRONG

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THERE ARE SO MANY STUNS THIS SEASON ESPECIALLY

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HUMAN RACIAL BIS

radiant plank
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Velf so you get 2x duration on your racial in voidspire raid

heavy dock
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ye but then ur stuck playing human

dense elbow
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You do know nelf breaks stuff, Gala?
Nelf BiS, human is sad and bad

flat river
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HUMAN

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IS

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BIS

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its objectivly correct

heavy dock
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boooring race

flat river
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so everything else is subjective

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you can say what u want

heavy dock
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go tauren so u stun the enemy back

flat river
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but objectivly human BiS

dense elbow
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Clearly it aint, as all proof empiric or otherwise, points at human being subpar at best

heavy dock
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go orc and just resist the stuns xd

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or how does orc racial work nowadays

flat river
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🤷‍♂️

honest trail
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& here I am playin Haranir fury

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Cause they look cool

verbal steppe
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Mastery

heavy dock
heavy dock
honest trail
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🤷‍♀️

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The cooler you look, the more dmg you do

verbal steppe
honest trail
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I'm not worried about my dps

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But I'm ugly af

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So I gotta compensate

verbal steppe
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I clap ur cheeks

heavy dock
honest trail
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oki

verbal steppe
heavy dock
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crazy

shy knot
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But orc reduces them

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I might swap tbh

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But Grand Marshal sounds lame af compared to High Warlord

lusty jungle
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imagine playing human in a fantasy game smh

shy knot
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Its a self insert race

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And knight mogs are cool af

hollow gate
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Is there a video guide we like best fellow zugs? my brain keeps falling back into RB spam which is horrendously wrong and the 30 hours on the dummy so far in the last fortnight has not helped that cause at all. I'm hoping seeing it visually might jog my brain to rewire better

lusty jungle
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how is a video going to help if you already know what you're supposed to do, just do more content, compete with friends etc

hollow gate
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Just getting deperate, we progging Mythic and when shit gets going I just fall back into RB and it's super demoralising.

lusty jungle
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having fun blasting = best learning curve

shy knot
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Remove it from your bars

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For some content

icy plover
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i have a quetion in relativly new to Fury Warrior well warrior in general.. which stance should i be using Defensive or Berserker ?

shy knot
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Berserker always

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Unless youre not able to dmg something or in pvp

icy plover
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:noted

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tyty

shy knot
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Its a skill ceiling ability

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Gotta feel and know when to use it like in a raid to avoid getting killed

fossil orbit
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Guys, whats the Marco for targeting the closest mob IF i dont have a target or my target is friendly? Need it for my abilitys

rare helm
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Do you gonna save your catalyst items to upgrade mythic gear to set gear or u gonna spend it now with hero gear?

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not sure about if we will have enough for next weeks

rare fjord
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do these get wasted if used while capped?

flat river
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Not sure

spare helm
little gust
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Guys, do you know if we can heroic leap over this spreading wave that the last boss on windrunner spire does? Or do we need to jump using the arrows on the ground?

sudden tusk
heavy dock
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kinda sucks ngl

little gust
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thanks man

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same thing for Alleria Phase 3 going from island to island?

subtle lagoon
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use arrow then heroic jump to the ground

little gust
subtle lagoon
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should be almost insta

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charge also works while you're in the air

frigid sinew
spare helm
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how much % do we want with Mastery ?

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i swear every Droptimizer sim does not want Fking mastery

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its always haste

heavy dock
spare helm
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im at 1035 Mastery and 821 Haste

subtle lagoon
frigid sinew
native wadi
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Tbh my simulations are doing so much random shit....

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Loves haste

spare helm
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im gettinf confused here

subtle lagoon
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I'm just going by what the sims have been telling me, I also use light instead of reck

spare helm
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im still confused about sec stat

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i assume tho we want to try toi hit cap on haste and mastery

tardy lark
tawny helm
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is the bug fixed, where you can recraft normally now, without losing crests?

vital sonnet
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does engineering have any gear worth looking at this xpac

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for fury

spare helm
tardy lark
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thats your preferred stats until you have options to balance your stats optimally, yes. At that point you just sim your guy and let the robot do the thinking for you

spare helm
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i dunno im at 269 currently and everything sims better without mastery for some reason which confused me hard

tardy lark
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thats how stats kind of work, even before diminishing returns. The more mastery you have, the less the next point of mastery is worth. At that point haste is what you want because it facilitates the uptime of your mastery bonus. After that is no longer an issue, crit or vers becomes better

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this is ofc not specifically looking at spec interactions

patent topaz
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anyone knows what the percentage are Thane vs Slayer? for me slayer is more fun

tardy lark
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like how frost mages used to not want a giant amount of crit, since all important abilities had a crit chance multiplier on them

tardy lark
patent topaz
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so thane is better?

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thats sad slayer kinda feels like a fury high apm

tardy lark
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in basically all scenarios

patent topaz
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more fun imo

tardy lark
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i despise this iteration of slayer both arms and fury

rare helm
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how much dps are you able to maintain in a single target dummy for 5minutes? I start with aroud 100k and slowly decrease until freeze at 47-50k i bet im doing something wrong

tardy lark
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you could do a target dummy sim and check

rare helm
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and i have good gear. 259 . 2 tier set and mytich 2h weapon craft and 2h hc maze

rare helm
radiant plank
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Good gear and 2pc in the same sentence

tardy lark
rare helm
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will try thx u

tardy lark
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np u

bitter palm
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good gear and 259 in the same sentence

rare helm
bitter palm
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sorry im used to seeing@sullen dove sims

radiant plank
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not a mention at your english

rare helm
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it still sucks as i didnt get you xD

fresh mango
winter axle
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If I'm in full hero gear, whats the point of holding crests?

digital mauve
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Sering slayer pump how much of a différence it is with Thane on MM+ rn ?

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Also using rend is horrible in MT

winter axle
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Why would you use rend in MT though?

slender helm
fresh mango
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yep, two game restarts helped

slender helm
quartz iris
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Looking for a coaching session for DPS, is anyone intrested?

honest trail
spare helm
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Holy moly 14 keys are stressful currently >_>

digital mauve
latent hedge
woven valley
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rend would only feel good if it augmented something else. currently its just a standalone bleed that feels worthless for slayer

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like each tick having a chance to proc something

fallow escarp
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Much improvement from last time i done it!

gentle dust
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anyone mind taking a quick look at my mythic impererator log and giving suggestions on how to pew better, new to fury this tier - threw log in review channel

lean lava
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slayer with 4p is extrelmly fun to play ;D tbh i feel i do much more even in aoe situation than thane

digital mauve
unreal onyx
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does it make a difference wether I craft bracers or a cloak next week?

undone flower
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If you raid, both are on the first boss, so maybe that will move you toward one or the other

glass cloak
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for m+ still thane better than slayer?

rotund ginkgo
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idk if its cuz it was a 10 and we had no BL

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but slayer felt SO bad

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i still topped damage but that doesnt count when im 268 with bis trinket

rotund ginkgo
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the slayer buffs to aoe arent implemented yet, it's beta

glass cloak
rotund ginkgo
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i mean

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u can still play slayer

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but dont expect to match overall esp not on big pulls

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my slayer only sims like 2k more ST than my thane

south kayak
rotund ginkgo
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?

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unless im giga artistic arent the beta changes a buff to slayer aoe?

ashen swallow
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I thought it was more of a rebalancing but maybe it increases aoe dps too

south kayak
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I think they're neutral for AoE

rotund ginkgo
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i mean, enabling you to exec as an aoe tool is definitely an aoe buff

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exec is high prio as slayer ws udden death

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it reduces bladestorm

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pressing a full ST ability instead of a cleaving rampage is giga bad in aoe

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but now it'll be 100% reap

ashen swallow
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It'd be nice to go back to slayer for m+, mountain thane is fun but slayer always feels like it flows better

rotund ginkgo
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which means sudden death is highest prio when available

rotund ginkgo
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A) reduces BS
B) extra dam
C) 100% reap

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i disagree, thane flows exceptionally well this season

shy knot
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Pressing rend as slayer is so bad

rotund ginkgo
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you dont?

shy knot
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Thane is peak

south kayak
rotund ginkgo
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u trippin

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i didnt notice

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oh shit u right

ashen swallow
shy knot
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I played every iteration of arms and fury since Legion (skipping SL) and thane is very good

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Kinda easy but good

rotund ginkgo
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thane feels giga nice

shy knot
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Yep feels smooth and strong

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And clap > ww

ashen swallow
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Thunder clap is very satisfying to use I'll give them that

shy knot
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That glyphed version of clap

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In order to make ww feel good it should hit HARD and be on cd

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Classic style

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Not this spammable wet fart

crystal summit
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Y'all I fucked up. I didn't realize there was a level 5 to crafts and when I made my own 2hander I only got ilvl252

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I though concentration covered me

crystal summit
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I didn't know that low level ored would fuck me so hard.

Now I wanna re craft is it even worth it?

cosmic sundial
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I think refracting is still bugged no?

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*recrafting

crystal summit
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I got my normal 263 paladins hammer at least. But as for the crafted is it possible I get Max lvl now using gold ores?

last junco
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whats the midnight jumper cables called

south lintel
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What's everyone doing overall 11+

eager thorn
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Idk anyone that’s had it happen to them

dry hawk
echo rapids
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Still pulling fairly conservatively

fresh jasper
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Now that keys are out how much further ahead is MT compared to slayer? Ive been Slayer since tww but am now in a guild that pushes and I have always wanted to maximize shit. I know thane performs better but I just wanted to know how much better. Thanks for any input

echo rapids
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IMO thane absolutely cranks

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It’s just got an excellent profile for keys

fresh jasper
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Hows the ST comparatively? Like aoe is one thing but i love how slayer still wrecks ST and can help carry it a but

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For bosses

echo rapids
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Thane ST isn’t that far behind slayer

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And the sustained aoe is quite a bit better than slayer

fading bane
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i dont want this trinket

fresh jasper
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Yeah I agree WW is just dumb. I love fury and slayer but I feel like im waving pool noodles around with WW

fading bane
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It is specifically in Thane

echo rapids
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Slayer works in raid because most of the adds are low health and BS can do a good job on them

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M+ is a different ball game

fading bane
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every raid boss

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is thane

south kayak
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.5

fading bane
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i dont want no puzzle box tho

south kayak
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Then don't use it

fading bane
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Revvez did play Slayer on Alleria

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while he was in

fading bane
south kayak
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You have vorasius trinket

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nice

fading bane
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with SPEED

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No Gaze tho, caster tier

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Hope im benched for Dragons so it doesnt clutter my vault

south kayak
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lol

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isn't fury good on dragons

fading bane
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I got my 4 mythic vault

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yes

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it cranks adds

south kayak
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then why would you get benched

fading bane
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I might be tbf, so more ppl get 4 mythic vaults

south kayak
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fair

fading bane
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Would be ideal for loot

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but my vault does upgrade to 279 if i kill it

sweet flower
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anybody know of any youtubers or twitch streamers who go in depth about the raid and dungeons for fury? I was watching this guy critcake play who just did so much more than me but he wouldn't go in depth about anything

radiant plank
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since the blobs die to your warlocks cleaving in p1

fading bane
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Could be a bussin Arms fight

radiant plank
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and the big 1 guy needs to die per time

fading bane
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If Arms was you know

radiant plank
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I will be playing it on arms

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ofc

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insane p3

fading bane
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2 targets

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and Execute

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and Arms isnt viable

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World is fucked

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Is Arms execute actually good if u spec for it?

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Ive only played Arms with M+ build

dry hawk
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How hard is it to get into 9's with no IO?

sweet flower
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impossible

radiant plank
lean lava
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Odyns fury into blade storm is so much fun. I enjoy playing slayer much more than thane

brittle mauve
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Are we still ramp/TB tc weaving in 6+ tgts?

sweet flower
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I guess what I'm looking for is how to do better ST damage on the thane spec when we're going up against ST bosses. I've seen ppl hit some decent ST numbers whereas I feel like I'm capping at 30-40k at best

drifting token
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That leaves out a lot of info like ilvl buffs enchants etc

quartz iris
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ilvl 259 2p on slayer how much dps should i look for in raids ST

novel geyser
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What is the dps difference between slayer and mountain thane in m+ right now? Is slayer still playable or am i coping

radiant plank
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define playable

novel geyser
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Is the difference over 10% overall dmg?

radiant plank
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Sure if the adds live longer than slayers burst lasts

vast basalt
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Can anyone tell me what is the main difference between blood knight's mercy and blood knight's warblade? (Besides one being a mace and the other a sword monkahmm )

radiant plank
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Crafting costs maybe too?

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Didnt pay attention when I crafted the mace for mog

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Revvez also crafted the mace jst sayin

vast basalt
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Yeah but I see a lot of the top pushers (for now) using warblade instead and left me in doubt since I crafted my own mace 😅

radiant plank
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yeah it doesnt matter. Its just flavour

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weapon damage is normalized so only ilvl and stats amtter

gentle dust
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Would anyone be willing to review a log and tell me why i sucked?

light tapir
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wait people use the mace?

hard cradle
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Does the rotation change at all after getting the 4-set bonus? Asking for both Raid and M+.

light tapir
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🤢

radiant plank
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mace mog is too good

hard cradle
gentle dust
static mountain
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any1 else feel like slayer fury is real dogshit?

gentle dust
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first time raiding as a fury war (did arms some, usually monk or ass rogue)

fading sky
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Due to slayer strikes sd rng

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Bladestorm alignment with reck

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And ramp not givig 100% rb reset yet

delicate rock
radiant plank
fading sky
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Felt good on 1st boss mythic today

radiant plank
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also wasting a bunch of TB procs

fading sky
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As slayer

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As u can help burst that must die add with bladestorm

radiant plank
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Comparign to a better log you also just lack a bunch of add damage

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I would recommend combing over the wowhead guide and practicing at a target dummy for your St rotation and then copying CD timers from lorrgs.io for future fights

gentle dust
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sounds good, TY - yeah i felt like adds were blown up before i could get into them deeply

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good problem to have i guess

fading sky
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Hm i managed a 92. On 1st boss as slayer

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Ill try clappa next

south lintel
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i got almost all 11s barely 116k was jw but im sure im messing up

gentle dust
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Will do some dummy work

warm crag
radiant plank
waxen vigil
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does anyone know offhand what the prio diff is between slayer raid cleave and thane raid cleave

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thane kinda seems like padding

dusty cove
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what does odyns fury CD roughly come down to with the tier set?

spark wing
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Hi, does anybody know why i lose like 60-70% of my dmg playing slayer compared to thane ? its either raids or m+, i just dont do dmg as slayer, is it skill issue and im just bad that bad at the game or trinkes/stats

dense elbow
spark wing
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idk, as slayer i feel that i ran out of buttons to click which is strange considering its warrior, im often stuck with bloodthirst, rampage are on cd and not having exe stack to use

frank dawn
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raging blow?

spark wing
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yeah im spamming it but idk, the dmg isnt there, tried it once on m+ and it felt like my gear just disappeard

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i felt it the most trying nulleanus yesterday, like bro im 256 and im struggling

frank dawn
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spend some time with the wowhead guide, slayer might be a little weaker generally but it's not much behind Thane

south kayak
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Am I right

frank dawn
static mountain
spark wing
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I acknowledge that im bad with the rotation probably but does crafted weapon could also affect dmg that much ?

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cuz i dont have one

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both are 250

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ilvl

static mountain
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u can try and sim it and see what wud be the difference

random shadow
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Weapons are usually the modt impactful items

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For your damage at least

echo rapids
dry hawk
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I just hope the crafting bug doesn't exist because I want it mythic over the weekend

south kayak
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They killed the bosses pretty fast

pure breach
dusty cove
pure breach
# dry hawk <a:LETSGOOO:770741530805796874>

But it gave me some goosebumps in first minutes like I send it to the crafter and he got a dc and I went to cancel the order and checked the email and the weapon wasn’t there 😂

gentle dust
pure breach
echo rapids
#

Good lord, just saw liquids comps for RWF

#

2 melee on paladins, 3 on crown

#

Womp womp

summer quail
#

ofcourse. it's pretty aids to be melee this tier

#

genuinely can't think of a tier this bad

echo rapids
#

I don’t remember one this bad in TWW

frank dawn
#

as part of the ongoing effort to simplify the game, they also have simplified their balancing process to just not worry about melee

steel shard
#

if they did not have raidbuffs

#

0 melees this tier for sure

frank dawn
#

inb4 Quel'danas raid wants you to have lots melee keks

echo rapids
#

And UDK is almost a ranged

eternal tree
#

born to slay, forced to clap

#

any indication that slayer would start being on par with MT on like high tyrannical or something?

desert cloud
#

how much of a dps increase is set

frank dawn
#

4.5% or so

desert cloud
#

im competing with DH tanks who have 4 set cuz i have none

#

on AA

vital idol
#

little more RNG based with procs where thane is consistent and blasts everytime

#

but you will have more boss dmg on slayer\

spare steppe
frank dawn
#

a very...careful...one

#

yes

earnest tiger
spare steppe
#

We can hope

steep fable
#

is slayer better for m+ now? or still mountain

weary plume
#

is details broken right now

#

allegedly i was doing the same damage as everyone else

#

according to people in the group

bitter palm
#

ye weapon dps is by far the most valuable stat

#

hoooly discord tweaking

bitter palm
#

@sullen dove confirm

echo rapids
weary plume
#

thats annoying

bitter palm
#

or not close to the pack

echo rapids
#

Honestly couldn’t figure it out

weary plume
#

how did you confirm

bitter palm
#

just bring back details blizzard please

weary plume
#

logs?

bitter palm
#

this is so fucking annoying

#

u need to use logs for evertything now ye

echo rapids
#

Everyone else’s meters were showing the same thing

weary plume
#

ffs

echo rapids
#

But mine

bitter palm
#

if u wanna check uptime on trinkets or w/e u need logs

echo rapids
#

Like I would be 130k-140k and other people 80-100k

#

And then on their screens they were 120k

lilac plinth
#

Really ?

echo rapids
#

It was just the overall

bitter palm
#

idk the only time it desyncs from my experience is if i die and im not near the pack

lilac plinth
#

I thought i carry them hard every run

opaque mortar
#

Did you compare details vs the embedded meter too?

echo rapids
#

No

bitter palm
#

details is just a skin

weary plume
#

what

bitter palm
#

details is a skin for the built in meter

dry hawk
echo rapids
#

I didn’t notice it til the end of the night when I was giving the other people stick and they were like what?

hasty shell
#

is the 4-tick bar for improved whirlwind from sensei's class resource bars?

opaque mortar
#

Guess I'll have to run logs my next session and compare. No ones mentioned any major issues in my groups but

opaque mortar
#

But yes the bar is in sensei's

hasty shell
#

trying to get this other cooldown manager addon that seems better in every way than bcdm to work but it does not play nice with sensei's at all

bitter palm
#

instead of on cast

#

idk why they made that change

opaque mortar
#

Yea. It feels gross

bitter palm
#

it was in like s2 of tww or something

unkempt grotto
#

Think it was modnight prepatch

rotund ginkgo
#

+2 btw

young swan
#

yeah keys are piss

rotund ginkgo
#

this isnt even like, a season 2 kinda thing

#

they're just piss

#

imagine minmaxing queue

bitter palm
bitter palm
young swan
#

no

#

i wasnt in for mythic

bitter palm
#

gg

#

echo playing 2 melee

echo rapids
#

If holy paladin wasn’t dogshit it would be 1

young swan
#

oh shit echo smurfed lmfao

#

unsurprising i guess

rotund ginkgo
gentle dust
#

Is thane opener for ST basically the same as the aoe multi target (looking at wowhead)

broken whale
#

how many globals am i supposed to press in between bloodthirsts? Sometimes it feels like i can do more than 2 but not quite 3. Do i press 3 anyway?

bitter palm
tawny sonnet
#

Are the dragons in the raid being cleaved? How the hell are some specs gettin 130k in that fight?

blissful hound
tawny sonnet
#

yea still struggling to target those as thane

blissful hound
#

Just need to be lucky I guess

#

I cant get above a 94 on there because we burst the adds too hard

warm crag
blissful hound
warm crag
#

noobs or

radiant plank
hardy bluff
#

video guild lole

radiant plank
#

gonna need a vibe check from method

south kayak
leaden wren
#

Is popping puzzle box before recklessness worth doing mid combat? Or is it a DPS loss

young swan
#

in this context it just means high performance

south kayak
#

I'm confused

young swan
#

what

south kayak
#

How would you Smurf in a game like wow in PvE

young swan
#

they just killed the boss in less pulls than expected

#

smurfed

south kayak
#

Oh

young swan
#

idk how this is confusing

bitter palm
#

its a fuzzy term

#

in most cases it means high performance

south kayak
#

I got it now

echo rapids
#

I’ve always associated smurfing with PvP games

#

Like LoL

south kayak
#

I'm not really surprised

#

Blizzard deliberately made the raid easier

#

So of course they downed the bosses faster

modest condor
bitter palm
echo rapids
#

I mean isn’t crown like supposed to be mid-late tier boss difficulty abets

bitter palm
#

thats what the word means literally

echo rapids
#

This is like fractilus or OAB

bitter palm
#

but it can mean high performance based on context

echo rapids
#

not an end boss

south kayak
#

Yeah Xan is using the word in an unfamiliar way

#

For me at least

iron portal
#

Shame him

bitter palm
#

nowadays its mostly used in the way xan used it

echo rapids
#

Strange

south kayak
#

I'm an old man

#

I've never seen it used like that

modest condor
#

same

iron portal
#

Im pretty sure you wouldnt use term smurf in this context

#

They basically smashed it

modest condor
#

smurfing just means playing on a lower rated account to beat weaker opponents

echo rapids
#

We’ll see how fast midnight falls…falls

modest condor
#

i dont see how it even has anything to do with raiding in wow

iron portal
echo rapids
iron portal
#

Ban the Xan

echo rapids
#

I guess like if a RWF raider joined an AOTC group with full myth gear?

bitter palm
echo rapids
#

And crushed the meters

trim lava
iron portal
south kayak
#

Hopefully the other raid is more difficult

echo rapids
#

It should be

runic violet
#

I just got thoroughly ass handed on dps in nexus 10. I must be doing something wrong

bitter palm
runic violet
#

barely beat the dh tank

modest condor
#

they also said that this is the first tier without weakauras/computational addons so they might miss the mark with expected difficulty

echo rapids
bitter palm
#

max admitted it so its legal

echo rapids
south kayak
#

No matter what blizzard does, those top guilds Will find a way to make something even if it isn't needed

#

I hate players

regal marten
#

Hey guys, do you know how much dmg Thunder Clap does after 5 targets to the new ones?

broken whale
modest condor
gentle dust
#

is thane ST opener charge -> odyn, cd's, blast, ramp , blast, ramp (i assume in AOE it would be thunderclap) in ST it would be bloodbath -> normal cd rotation

modest condor
#

if 1 target is 100 damage, 5 targets is 500, 10 targets is 500*sqrt(10/5)=~700, with each enemy taking 700/10=70 damage

young swan
#

its definitely not a stretch

iron portal
#

Bit of a stretch xan ngl

#

But doesnt matter, we love you anyway

south kayak
#

Lol

#

"our child is a little special, but we love him anyway" vibes

young swan
#

it absolutely isnt

#

its been used in that context for years atp

bitter palm
#

nah u know what

young swan
#

at least in NA

bitter palm
#

it is a stretch xantage

#

xan for brown (dont ban me i am joking)

young swan
#

all of you are wrong

modest condor
#

i can see the logic but yeah it is a stretch

bitter palm
#

skyhold...

#

power abuse...

#

blue always right...

bitter palm
#

banezi would never...

regal marten
modest condor
#

no it's sqrt(6/5)*5*tc damage

south kayak
#

Where is banezi

#

Is he gone

young swan
#

free from the shackles

fair talon
#

I have the question

south kayak
#

you have THE question?

#

Damn

regal marten
fair talon
#

what is cast priority order when i have max rage and without max and tell me also single target and multi target:

So the question is:

What is ability order priority? Mounthain thane with 1 stack vs rampage vs bloothirst vs proc of bloodsirth

regal marten
#

Or?

#

No I'm dumb sorry

south kayak
regal marten
#

It's 5^(6/5) and 6/5>1 so it's ok

modest condor
#

but in total it's more

young swan
modest condor
#

average r/wow regular

#

hasnt played the game in 15 years, still comes in to complain about everything (that hasnt existed since mop)

south kayak
regal marten
fair talon
#

can any body answer me pls?

warm crag
fair talon
arctic copper
#

deep rotation tip

fair talon
#

this is not priority

arctic copper
#

1 is more important than 2, which is more important than 3 and so forth

fair talon
#

It is just order

south kayak
#

There's no reason to lol

iron portal
#

You did complain fair bit in the past

arctic copper
#

that is priority not order, u dont press those abilities 1-11 and then rotate over again

iron portal
#

But didnt we all

south kayak
iron portal
#

Indeed

hardy cargo
modest condor
#

also my favourite reddit moment was someone saying that wow was best in wotlk and in the same comment complain about wow's seasonal nature

#

like my guy

#

wrath is literally the expansion that introduced the seasonal nature

hardy cargo
#

nah silm u wouldnt understand at some point in time someone used a trinket or item from a past raid in a single slot, ergo not seasonal bc old stuff matters 🙂

#

jeez

trim lava
#

if rampage is on cd u press bloodthirst, fury thane is brain ded ez

#

it took me a while to understand prio list too and it can be a bit confusing but that’s basically it

valid pulsar
#

jo guys do you send second craft with myth crest once you have another 80 or nah

trim lava
#

for example if you had rampage, thunderblast and bloodbath and odyns fury, you quickly odyns fury for the bleed, rampage then blast them blood bath

valid pulsar
#

like cloak or wrist ?

arctic copper
#

brain ded ez -- confusing sums up warriors

trim lava
#

we some smooth brains

#

but the ones that make it thru save raid with rallying cry

regal marten
#

Where multiplier is x/5

echo rapids
#

I’m going cloak since it feels like the higher demand item

#

I think first boss has haste mastery wrists anyway

valid pulsar
#

yeah and caverns

#

i do not do mythic raid yet

dry hawk
#

I just want my mythic weap so I stop being out dpsed lol

winter shoal
echo rapids
winter shoal
#

I have embellishment on my cloak but yeah probably leave it 259 until I have excess myth crests

valid pulsar
#

alright makes sense ye

echo rapids
#

If you arnt killing myth bosses soon you’ll be ahead on crests

#

200 already, 300 on reset cap

winter shoal
#

Inshallah 4/9 mythic next week

echo rapids
#

Yeah he said he doesn’t myth raid though

#

So 1 vault myth track item per week

wheat sun
#

hey guys, is there any good macro for fury? im 262 and i feel like im not doing dmg. Im using aoe rotation from wowhead and looking for any improvement possibilities

valid pulsar
#

yeah we did not even manage to clear heroic yet so might take a few weeks until we step into mythic keks

gleaming siren
#

Why did we need 3 HoFs again

winter shoal
#

If my stinker ass guild gets HoF I will need a new pair of pants

gleaming siren
#

Idk Chimaerus HoF is some crazy clownery if it lasts till next week

#

500 guild HoF pogox

smoky vale
#

meow

winter shoal
gleaming siren
#

Unlaggi

smoky vale
#

🙁

winter shoal
#

Wr29 voracious tho wicked

regal marten
gleaming siren
#

Wat

digital mauve
#

what's the addon to have a timer on the middle of the screen that coutdown a mechanic in dungeon?

smoky vale
#

shes dead

#

i miss her

#

(weakauras is one)

clever belfry
oblique trail
#

WHAT

clever belfry
digital mauve
#

I saw it on critcake stream

urban drum
#

What’s the closest class/spec to Fury as far as APM/feedback loop and feel? Enh? Any recommendations would be appreciated

south kayak
#

Hmm

#

Enha, outlaw?

undone flower
#

Outlaw yeah

oblique trail
undone flower
#

Or ret

digital mauve
#

survival hunt?

south kayak
#

Survival doesn't fit that profile

clever belfry
echo rapids
#

Play outlaw if you want to find a class with even fewer m+ invites than warrior

urban drum
#

I’ve been recommended enhance and frost dk, by ChatGPT XD

modest condor
#

chatgpt has spoken

#

always listen to chatgpt

undone flower
#

I arrived in that discord, banussy was still yellow sadge

south kayak
#

Frost dk is actually not a bad one

echo rapids
#

DK is goated, it’s one of blizzards chosen classes

clever belfry
#

get it right

#

.

undone flower
#

Thx for the reminder

south kayak
undone flower
#

And for the APM, you can play any tank (or prot war), they usually are the highest

clever belfry
#

chance to enrage if unlucky

#

??

echo rapids
south kayak
#

This is like a weird combination of all the previous fury iterations

#

The enrage one is basically BfA when the uptime wasn't as high

undone flower
south kayak
urban drum
#

I’m gonna call blizzard customer service and ask them what the best fury alt is

sullen dove
#

just realized tf are these pants

#

mastery only and with guaranteed leech

#

holy chad

#

too bad gloves are the offpiece...

south kayak
#

Is mastery getting double statted

sullen dove
#

assume its about equal or is equal to equal ilvl pants number of secondaries added together

#

my 263 pants have 143 secondaries

south kayak
#

Oh okay

undone flower
#

Dude miss typed leech when he coded the pant

sullen dove
#

im trying to math out if i could possibly get hero of the dawn for my main next week

#

but my alts need like 7-8 free upgrades worth of 4/6hero or myth items

#

which just does not seem like it will occur...

south kayak
#

What alts do you have

sullen dove
#

a lock another warrior and dragon

south kayak
#

Cool

#

Do you enjoy warlock

sullen dove
#

oh yeah

#

3 button rotation but still bangs

south kayak
#

Demo?

sullen dove
#

yea

#

destro on dragons p cool too

#

but destro has way too much button bloat

#

idk why it gotta have like 7 different spells

south kayak
#

Demo has been 3 button rotation for a while

#

If you're ignoring dogs

sullen dove
#

dogs op

#

but yea

#

hog/shadowbolt/demonbolt

#

poggies

#

hit dogs/implosion on cd

south kayak
#

Yeah it's very smooth

sullen dove
#

basically it

south kayak
#

Even if it's simple

coarse nest
#

any cd holding for adds on chimarias?

south kayak
sullen dove
#

if ur in g1 probably could hold 10ish seconds

south kayak
#

I assume your playing dev

sullen dove
#

yeap

#

also cool but think atm lock way more fun

#

dragon cool in raid just range/positioning way more important so kinda annoying to always be working around it

south kayak
#

Disintegrate feels cool with that hero talent

sullen dove
#

but it is p plug and chug too

south kayak
#

Especially in aoe

sullen dove
#

yea

nova vessel
#

hi yall, i have a question, when im on cds and i have over 100rage should i spend all the rampages available or should i just use them until BB is available again?

#

im having some trouble with prio buttons specially on cds

sullen dove
#

if bb is up after that 100 rage rampage yea you'd hit bb

#

if not you probably could send the double ramp

south kayak
#

I was only playing melee before

sullen dove
#

or if execute is up u can hit that too or thunderblast as thane

nova vessel
#

kk and one lasst thing, should i use sudden death procs on cds?

sullen dove
#

those 3 abilities prolly only thing u avoid hitting double ramp for but if none are up then yea sling it

nova vessel
#

(as thane)

sullen dove
#

eh as thane its probably behind on everything except ragingblow and the other fillers

#

like youd hit bb/tb first

south kayak
#

You should press it if you don't have BB, Rampage and Thunder Blast

sullen dove
#

sometimes a sudden death will just fall off during thane cds

#

but not a huge deal

#

so yea u sometimes hit it but dont hard focus on it as thane

sullen dove
#

slayer its both more important and u also dont have thunder blasts to hit so ur like guaranteed to spend the sd eventually

smoky vale
granite elbow
#

I now have 80 myth crests but I heard there's a potential bug when recrafting and should consider waiting. What's that about?

dry talon
#

does silvermoon renown trinket should sim higher then solarflare prism hc ???

odd crater
#

Just send it, and don’t blame me if it is bugged

smoky vale
dry hawk
#

I wonder if it's a relog thing

undone flower
#

I heard it is a quality asked thing

spare steppe
#

It’s a quality issue for sure

dry hawk
#

If you can't recraft it to the same item quality maybe?

spare steppe
#

I sent mine but they ain’t refunding if it bugs

spare steppe
undone flower
#

One of my guildmate said it’s when you don’t put rank 5 as asked quality, it will eats your crests of some doom magic

dry hawk
#

Need to go dance on a mailbox for it to work KEKW

summer quail
#

i say gamble it, if it doesn't work blame xan

strange oyster
#

Is it good to upgrade hero track gear

#

anyone know if i should upgrade hero gear ?

sullen dove
#

only at 3/6 and to be a little extra ethical stop at 4/6 for now

trim lava
#

is ur GS low? upg it

sullen dove
#

next week or even this week if u want can send a few key pieces to 276

river nimbus
#

I think larias suggests doing 6/6 for chest, 1 ring, 1 trinket.

sullen dove
#

like high stat helms/chest/legs n stuff

#

yea ring and trink not bad either just think ring upgrade wont be that crazy

#

compared to others

#

and trinket is good if its a trinket you know you arent soon to possibly get the mythic version of it

river nimbus
#

Yeah. but do the big impactful ones and maybe save some.

sullen dove
#

like honestly considering how easy m chimerus is if youre a mythic raider in a guild you probably are killing that boss 2nd or third so maybe not worth full upgrading heroic alnseer

#

cuz you could get mythic as drop or vault

river nimbus
#

Really depends on what content your pushing i guess. but soredish has the right recommendations.

sullen dove
#

sameish with vorasius trinket

jagged sorrel
#

Has anyone tested if the talent Fearless (berserker rage removes movement impairing effects) works on the chains from the first pull in seat ?

desert dirge
#

there was some chat yesterday and brain hurt. What should the relationship between these 2 stats look like for my current loadout? currently:
Haste 925
Mastery 814

#

crit is 400 vers is near 0 if it matters

blissful hound
#

There's no answer to the question

young swan
#

it also works on the slow circle in nexus point

#

its very broken

#

keep it secret

jagged sorrel
#

oh sick, I removed it to run intimidating shout for the extra interrupt

#

but this seems way better now lmao

desert dirge
#

k lol sims tell me i fuck. so leggo.

leaden wasp
safe orbit
#

what better first up(m+) armor, ring, neck, trinket?

hollow sapphire
#

Depends on what trinket, and what stats are, flip a coin or sim

#

I flipped for you, the coin chose armor, good luck

rotund ginkgo
#

269 ilvl moment

#

:3

fading sky
ionic portal
#

Im 4 tierset-less only 2, if I have odyns fury up but avatar/reck is almost up do I wait or just send OF?

sullen dove
#

my guild didnt kill either

rare garnet
sullen dove
#

i believe him

odd crater
#

That’s my spirit animal

thorny basin
#

Need that kind of confidence

strange oyster
#

should i upgrade tier to max

#

hero

#

?

fading sky
strange oyster
#

should i upgrade tier to max

#

?

fading sky
#

Chest-leg-helm

#

If they are 3/6. Hero track

rotund ginkgo
#

cant believe rag is streaming

#

doing 15s

#

holy shit

rare garnet
#

fake

chrome summit
#

how do slayer play for raid again? its RB prio always?

unborn delta
#

We combined our split this week so we have a chance to kill chimaerus Monday and steal HoF dreamrift

sullen dove
#

rb is like the last button you hit

umbral gull
#

Im coming home guys didnt played for 1 week, what changed ? M+ are weaks no ? We can play slayer in dungeons ? The bug still exist with recraft ?

tardy lark
#

m+ is easy, slayer blows, recraft bug still exists and blizz gave people the middle finger

echo rapids
#

If there was a bug where you occasionally myth crafted and the crests were not consumed, that shit would be fixed in an hour

umbral gull
#

Ok ok I Hope my weekly chest dont suck

sullen dove
#

if im not wrong i think the recraft bug was if you like public order and didnt specify rank 5 craft right?

#

or no

echo rapids
#

And they would track everyone down snd take the crests manually

sullen dove
#

cuz ive crafted 3 times so far and once even yesterday in personal order and i think its fine

sullen dove
#

true

echo rapids
unborn delta
#

Why does our bis got so much crit in it

#

Crit/mast cloak crit/haste belt

fair wharf
#

does fury warrior really value highest secondary stat food over mainstat food?

floral frigate
#

it depends, if your highest rating is mastery yes

fair wharf
#

huh thanks

floral frigate
#

its a very small difference I think, my theory is if my raid drops a feast I eat it and dont care what the buff is

unborn delta
#

Mainstat food also gives stam though which is good for m+/raid

fair wharf
#

I only do m+

#

if it's that small of a difference I might just stick to royal roasts, easier craft than champion's bento

undone flower
#

Or like S1 of tww, nerf m+ dungeons to erase cheaters impact

limpid sierra
#

I miss slayer....

rotund ginkgo
#

skyreach

#

havoc was 272 btw

fading sky
#

Wth is up with 1500g per key

rotund ginkgo
#

🙂

#

skyreach 14, 6s off +2

fading sky
#

Havoc should be int

limpid sierra
#

wow did havoc get buffed

rotund ginkgo
#

no he was just 272

fading sky
#

Ofc

limpid sierra
#

oh

rotund ginkgo
#

he should be devourer yes

#

but w/e

fading sky
#

But havoc is good

rotund ginkgo
#

going aa15 now so

#

(im live)

limpid sierra
#

i absolutely despise skyreach as a dungeon

fading sky
#

Yup

rotund ginkgo
#

zerocool in queue do we take him

fading sky
#

Mainly the cameea angles

rotund ginkgo
#

KEKW

#

yeah it ass

limpid sierra
#

cause me and my tank fly off the map at the start

rotund ginkgo
#

do we take 3190 zerocool to the key or nah

limpid sierra
#

and i cant see shit from all the flags

undone flower
#

Bc rogue

#

Yellow is good color

rotund ginkgo
#

but zerocool

limpid sierra
#

if you need a 253 warrior lmk i will top dps that dung

undone flower
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He is bald, he already suffer

limpid sierra
undone flower
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Have pity

rotund ginkgo
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we went with a ret pala it seems

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well its academy

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so ret should own

undone flower
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Tbf I didn’t see a rogue in m+ yet idk if it’s good or not

rotund ginkgo
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well

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u aint gonna see it

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KEKW

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the 3.3 ret should be fine it seems

random shadow
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ye man how you see a sealth rogue huuh

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sub rogues are pretty good rn

rotund ginkgo
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fuck